Shrek mediocre at best

[BRERALEX]

all i had to say

[Pixieduster]

I agree.

[apm]

I loved it, my wife loved it, and my daughters (ages 9 and 3) loved it. All I had to say.

[BRERALEX]

Your daughters and wife never saw Toy Story?

It just didnt have what i thought it takes.

Not even a highly suspenseful ending

[my3princesses]

Shriek rocks! I haven't laughed so hard in a long time - and it can take alot to make me laugh! So much that the kids didn't get (went over their heads) but they still enjoyed it. I am a big fan of fairytales and to see them turned up side down was great. I can' t wait to see it on video to see what I missed.

[RLMS56]

My 16 yr old son and I saw it yesterday. I thought it was hilarious. You have to take it for what it is intended to be...a movie spooking on Disney. It did a great job of it!

[honeymom]

My family and the entire theater loved Shrek. We have the Toy Story tape (Disney Channel gave it to me years ago when I worked in cable). There is no comparison. Shrek is MUCH BETTER!!!! One of the few videos I will actually pay money for.

[Spaceman Spiff]

and that's all I have to say.

[dopey2]

I agree with Breralex.

[Planogirl]

I like Shrek. I like Toy Story. And all of you are entitled to your opinions, even if they're wrong. ;)

That's ALL for me. :D

[MikeS]

I loved Toy Story but I really loved Shrek. Disney animation has gone downhill since katzenberg left and now that Dreamworks has him I expect more great animation from them. Remember Shrek is only their second animated film (antz was their first) and to have this kind of success is a good sign for Dreamworks.
I hate to tell all you Disney fans but Atlantis will not be the #1 animated film this summer. I have watched previews with test audiences and Atlantis did not fare well with them. Shrek will rule the summer. If I am wrong I will come back and admit it but right now I don't think I will have to.

[Buzz2001]

Wrong...Dreamworks created other great classics like The Road to El Dorado; Chicken Run; Joseph, King of Dreams; The Prince of Egypt; Small Soliders; Paulie; and Mouse Hunt

http://www.dreamworks.com/

Shrek - The beginning and end were good but the middle dragged a bit. Almost fell asleep. It was a good movie but not great.

Not a Toy Story 2.

[eeyorefanatic]

I didnt think i would but i did. I am such a Disney fanatic and don't particularly find toilet humor funny, but there really wasnt all that much in the movie... Now there was plenty of dark comedy moments (gepetto selling pinocchio) but i thought they were hysterical.

The animation was amazing, and the premise was original. I for one enjoyed an ogre really being, well, an ogre:)

And as for the ending being predictable, which Disney movie has a "suprise ending" :rolleyes:

[YoHo]

********, I can't decide if your being sarcastic, or truthful. The only movie of those listed that is even bareable is prince of Egypt the rest were terrible.

[DVC-Landbaron]

YoHo!

Chicken Run was great!!

[CarolMN]

I liked it (I'm a few weeks shy of 49)
My daughter liked it (She's 20).

I liked Toy Story and I loved Toy Story 2, but I didn't go to see either one in a theater.

All I have to say.

[YoHo]

Landbaron, saw parts of chicken run, was unimpressed and didn't bother with the rest. eh, to each his own.

[DVC-Landbaron]

YoHo,

I'd suggest you watch the whole thing before you pass judgement. I saw only bits and pieces from Lion King at first and was unimpressed. Kind of hard trying to piece together a cohesive story line see only bits of it. Doesn't do much for character development either. Now, after viewing the whole thing, beginning to end, Lion King is, by far, my favorite.

[Buzz2001]

That's my point YoHo. Just laughing at comments made on this thread as well as the Pearl Harbor thread. None of Dreamworks movies, including Shrek, can hold a candle to Disney's best.

Ticket prices were different 10 years ago. What would the Lion King make if released today or Beauty & the Beast or Toy Story 2?? Its all relative but one movie doesn't make Dreamworks the leader in the industry.

[darla]

I'm a huge disney fan. don't get me wrong. Why must people compare non disney to disney. If a product is good so be it. Not for nothing and it kills me to say this disney is going down the crapper and quick.

[BRERALEX]

i was hoping that the donkey would get shot and killed.

i liked the movie dont get me wrong but all this comotion about it being a classic. everywhere i read they say SHREK is a big big deal.

But whats the big deal. They added toilet humor to a cartoon and ripped Disney classics which they can only DREAM of trying to recreat with that kind of creativity that WORKS without crapping all over something totally totally totally original.

[BRERALEX]

i liked the movie but first off one of the first things i thought was would i take my 3 yr old to see it?

i still cant answer that question and that bothers me.

Many people are saying that it was better then Toy Story. HOW? ...........WHY? WHEN? WHAT PARTS?

I'm sorry but i can say easily that Toy Story is in another league of STORY TELLING then Shreek i mean shrek is.

I leave tommorrow for the magic kingdom and must subside commenting now so i can read anything else LAND has written on any other thread.

[Sarangel]

I think that Shrek should be a wake up call to Disney... I don't think Shrek will be a Classic that we'll all need to have the way Lady and the Tramp or Cinderella are, but it is a very good piece of work. The only parts I found better than Toy Story were some of the technical elements, and I think that (for me at least) the overtones from the Katzenberg/Eisner feud are a little much. Who knows it could improve in repeated viewings, but I just can't see it being as relevent in 20 years...

Sarangel

[Planogirl]

Why is everyone using a Pixar film when comparing Disney to Dreamworks? Wouldn't Dinosaur and The Emperor's New Groove be better examples of recent Disney work?

I liked Shrek for its own merits. I'm not comparing it to past movies from any studio but just going by whether I was entertained. I definitely was. I can't say the same for The Emperor's New Groove and while Dinosaur was a pretty movie, I didn't think that the story was that compelling.

Let's see if Dreamworks can do it again however.
:bounce:

[ContempoSMT]

i loved it and all my friends loved it!

[ContempoSMT]

i heard it was great! and really funny also from other people in my area...

[YoHo]

Plano Girl, I think the reason is that Shrek is done by an outside firm just like Pixar, so they are comparing Apples to Apples. If you want to compare directly, then Compare Emperor's new groove to the Road to El Dorado. Now I have yet to see ENG, but Road to EL Dorado basically soured me on Dreamworks Animation. It was worthless.

[Briar rose108]

I enjoyed Shrek and so did my 7 y/o dd & my 38 y/o dh. We also enjoyed Road to Eldorado. Now I wouldn't call RTE my favorite or even in my top 20. But I thought it was entertaining.

I love Disney, but there "batting average" is not perfect. They do not "score" with every movie they make. ie...Emperor's New Groove, Fox & the Hound, The Great Mouse Detectives and my least favorite disney movie of all time (forgive me, but it is only my opinion....Pocahontas). I think Katzenberg was a great loss to Disney. But I also think that other companies can and do make quality films.

Some of my favorites are 1) Sleeping Beauty 2) Cinderella 3) Little Mermaid 4) Beauty & the Beast

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If everyone enjoyed the same things it would be an incredibly boring world.

As far as this summer and animation go....I think that Shrek will surpass Atlantis in ticket sales. Because, IMHO, Atlantis doesn't look all that interesting. I will probably see it this summer with my daughter and I may change my opinion. But that is okay................

[Planogirl]

YoHo, my bad. Thanks for pointing out my error.

Actually El Dorado and ENG are both disappointing IMO. I think that both studios have the potential to do far better especially Disney. I have high hopes for Atlantis at this point.

And I still like Shrek whoever made it! And that is truly all I have to say about it. ;)

[bayniac]

I thought Shrek was great! I also thought it was more of an adult film. Sure you can take the kiddies and they'll enjoy it as a cartoon. The adult innuendos will fly right by, but for the most part, more enjoyed by adults.

The digital animation was awesome.

Cinderella, Little briar Rose, Little Snow-white, and Little Red Riding Hood were by the brothers Grimm. Beauty and the Beast was copied from one of Andrew Lang's fairytale books. Disney copied those, put their twist on it and put it to their animation. So you can't really be offended "for" Disney when those are being made fun of. Why get upset when another company copies it and uses the characters for it's own twisted humor?

Did they blatantly make fun of Disney? Yes! But did they try and turn everyone against Disney? No.
Yes Dreamworks is a competitor when it comes to movies. But we all know that they will not put Disney out of business.

So relax. If you liked it, great! If you didn't, oh well, not the first time you didn't like a film right?!

JMO
Bayniac :cool:

[ladyntramplover]

First of all, I am a teacher at an elementary school, and the kids know what I like. I LOVE Disney. I wear something on me that is Disney EVERY DAY and the kids know that. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that I am probably the biggest Disney freak in my area (excluding my fiance who is just like me). I see every Disney movie that comes out (maybe that is a bad thing since many of the newer releases just haven't had the "magic") because of one reason; it's Disney.

I'll be the first to admit that when I first started seeing trailers for "Shrek," I was unimpressed. I thought there was no way that Dreamworks could outdo Pixar on the "Toy Story" movies. So when it came time to release "Shrek," I groaned. I didn't want to go...but you know what happened? It was probably the best animated movie I've seen since "Toy Story 2." So what if the movie teases Disney? That's the best part of it! Believe me, Dreamworks was not trying to create an original classic like past Disney movies...and that is OKAY! The movie was entertaining on a level that Disney has not even tried. Maybe that's Disney, though; it really doesn't tease others mercilessly and maybe I don't want them to. But even I can see that "Shrek" is a very funny movie and quite entertaining to all kinds of people.

Hey, to each their own, and I honor all opinions, but "Shrek" will stand out this summer (in my opinion, it will totally outdo "Atlantis") and it's okay for it to do so.

lady

p.s. Has anyone read the original children's story book called "Shrek" (by William Steig)? I picked it up the other day since the movie was based on it, and really the movie shares NO similarities except for the main character. The plot and characters are ALL DIFFERENT! Weird, in my humble opinion.

[D,L and K's Mom]

I jsut returned from seeing SHREK with DH, DD and 15 other 10 year old girls (DD's B-Day Party). I have to say we all really, really enjoyed the movie.I was very shocked to see the range of people in the theatre. WE saw a lot of young children (3, 4 and 5) and a lot of teenagers as well as older adults. I thought a lot of the jokes "went over the kids heads" but they still enjoyed the movie. I recently watched a short documentary on how they did the animation and was stunned at all the work that goes into it. The animators wanted people to leave the theatre not thinking that they had just seen an animated movie but instead to have the feeling that the characters were "REAL". I have to say I think that the movies animation surpasses the last Disney film I saw (Emperor's New Groove) . Sorry for all of you who disagree this is just my opinion. I think the animation was much more lifelike (The individual blades of grass, the flowers, the characters hair, the lava and fire etc.) Don't get me wrong I loved the Emperor's New Groove but I think SHREK out did it in the animation dept. I did think a lot of SHREK's humor came from "Silly" things..burps, etc which the girls thought was hysterical. I think Disney has it beat in the story dept. Just my opinion. Go see it for yourself and make your own judgement. :)

ladytramplover is that the same William Steig who wrote the "C-D-B "books? I also am a teacher and my students love those books. Thanks for the info I will have to check out the original book.

[missymouse3367]

I saw Shrek today I didn't like it. I like the story line was good but some of the actors didn't act! There were alot of lines that could have been done without. As for Toy Story it rules the humor was great I felt that my ds, 3 yo,
wouldn't get bad manners from it. As for the hits on Disney well lets just say so people do dumb thing when they are jealous!!!!

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

[darbella]

here. The kids and I totally enjoyed the movie.:jester:

[YoHo]

Saw shrek last night, with an Open mind. The only character that didn't suck hard was Eddie Murphy's Donkey.
2 out of 5 stars, it boogles the mind that this is drawing crowds the way it is. Plot was shoddy. Found the acting adequet. Overabundance of easily dated pop culture references including the smashmouth opening.

Another Voice, you keep talking about how animation will change in the post Shrek world. I have to say, if this is how animation is going to end up, then I plan to stop going to animated movies.

Having said that, the Animation itself was excellent. I din't think it was better then Pixar, just different.

[ladyntramplover]

Okay, YoHo....

[ladyntramplover]

I agree that the plot left a lot to be desired. I don't think "Shrek" will ever be a classic like "Cinderella" or "Lady and the Tramp" but I know "A Bug's Life" isn't in that category either.

I just enjoyed the movie for what it was. I don't care if it wasn't a classic. I felt I got my money's worth at the theater, and I was thoroughly entertained. Isn't that all that matters anyway?


lady

[DisneyFanGuy]

We saw it yesterday. The five of us (two adults and three kids) voted it the best family movie of the year, and the best that we have seen since TS2. (Our last best family movie of the year) My kids are 15, 12, and 8.

I was really impressed at the range of ages in the theater. Many adults with kids, some adults without kids, and just behind us three older women (60 and 70ish) who were absolutely on the floor laughing at the jokes.

What was really impressive is that we live in a small town and by the third week just about any film is playing to very few people. The theater was packed and some kids were saying that they had seen the film several times.

To give you a comparison, Spy Kids played for three weeks. (Other, larger theaters played it longer). Shrek seems to be going strong into it's 4th week. I asked the theater owner and he said that he bumped another film to play it longer because it was drawing the largest crowds.

We liked everything about the film! The story, animation, and music. It's too contempory to last as a "classic", but as a just totally fun day at the movies, it's a scream!

I will still see Atlantis, and hope it's just as good!

[YoHo]

ladyntramplover,
That's just it, I didn't think it was worth the $8.50 I had to spend to see it. Not when my Fiancee didn't crack a smile for the first half of the movie.

I also I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinions, but we are on a discussion board, therefore we get to discuss our opinions.

It would have been worth it at Matinee prices.

Maybe I'm just too familiar with Mike Meyer's work on SNL, but all I could think was that shrek was going to spit out: If its not scottish, its CRAP!!!!

I didn't get the entire first part of the movie, Why was the lord tossing the fairytale creatures out? It'd be nice if they established the plot a little.

[ladyntramplover]

YoHo...

You raise a good issue about why the fairytale creatures were being captured...I don't know the reason. My fiance and I went back a second time to see if there was an answer, and there wasn't. I'd really like to know why; it would give me a better picture as to Lord Farquad's character.

I, too, am very used to Mike Meyers' work; I think I've seen all of his films and tv skits. Once again, I agree with you about the Scottish line, but once again, I thought he might have said that line in "Austin Powers 2" with Fat ... you know (I can't say it on a Disney site).

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the movie; like you said, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Wouldn't it be nice if the theaters would refund your money if you didn't like the film? I'd finally get my money back from seeing such classics as "Final Destination," "Wag the Dog" and "Pearl Harbor."

lady

[bobmouse65]

I thought it was great. Someone,I know, thought it was claymation. I just had to shake my head.:rolleyes:

[DisneyFanGuy]

They were sending them to a "relocation camp" because Lord "What's his name" didn't think they belonged in his kingdom. It fit in nicely for me with the idea that folks didn't like Shrek either because he was different.

It set up the story and that was enough for me. Sometimes comedy doesn't have to make perfect sense I guess.

Some of the humor really blew me away! That whole sequence in the middle of the movie when the bird blew up, and when they inflated the frog and the snake. My kids and I couldn't stop laughing. It was cruel humor I know, but it caught us so off-guard that we lost it! I've always thought that the most effective humor is when something happens that catches you by surprise.

Of anything, the love story grabbed me the least. It was only one element though.

And the last musical sequence was a GAS!!! It left me with the same happy feeling that we got at the end of movies like the Lion King and Tarzan. My kids left singing "I'm a Believer". We are going to get the sound track, we liked it THAT much!


It's been a long time since I have recommended a family movie to my friends. Spy Kids and Shrek are the most fun that I have had in a long time.

Isn't it cool that we can all have different opinions about the same flick?!! That's what discussion boards are for.

[YoHo]

Oh, good, I'm glad to know that Smashmouth will be able to make extra money of a Monkees tune. :bounce: :bounce:

I guess I require more. Yes, it became obvious that Lord Farquad wanted his "Perfect kingdom, and that that meant no Fairytale characters, but they certainly did a horrible job of setting that up.

Also, Last I checked, If your a Lord, and you run the Kingdom, then you, in fact, are King. I still have to say, the movie had no plot setup.


The first time I cracked a smile was with Robinhood. And those jokes will be passe' and 6 months (they were passe' already, Shrek brought them back)


Interestingly enough, the day before I saw shrek, I saw Emperor's new Groove. I thought it was Hilarious. No cinderella, I put it with Three Cabelleros.

[DisneyFanGuy]

I liked Groove too. I kind of put it in the same category as Shrek, just not as funny. But it certainly had its "moments" (Kronk was a HOOT!) In any case, it's nice that we can debate the merits of movies that were given resources, talent, and wit. I can sense inspiration and care behind both.

If Shrek succeeds and Atlantis does well, then all of us win! Like WDW and Universal, this is a case where we benefit from being caught in the crossfire!

I am really worried about the stories about Animation being cut. I hope that Disney keeps it rudder pointed in the direction of the past 10 years or so. There is nothing that I look forward to more than a new animated feature. The good ones are great no matter who makes them. For example, I thought that the Iron Giant was one of the best movies of any type that I have ever seen. It's too bad that it didn't do better, but I would have liked Warner Bros. to try again instead of shutting down the department.

The answer to animation not doing good box office is to make and market better movies. Not cut back. Eventually people go.

This works in reverse too. Enough garbage like Lady and the Tramp2/ Little Mermaid 2 and people will stop buying. (I just had to get in one more shot.....I HATED those things and I rented both. I can't believe that I contributed to the problem.....!)

Anyway, off to work I go! Heigh ho.

[Another Voice]

In the story, the fairy tales characters are being kicked out of the kingdom because to be “different” means you’re not “perfect”. That’s something that Eisner – er – Farquad won’t allow. The story point could have been better explained in the film, but it fits the movie’s theme about acceptance.

But the real reason it’s probably in the movie is far more interesting and goes back to the whole Eisner – Katzenberg feud. When Eisner first took over, he didn’t have a high opinion about feature animation. It had been a long time since Disney had produced even a modest hit animated film (‘The Rescuers’ way back in the seventies) and they had made a string of very costly flops (‘The Fox and The Hound’, ‘The Black Cauldron’, etc.). Eisner thought that animation was really only suited for children’s programming and seriously thought about shutting down the feature group and only producing animation for television. Needless to say, this did not sit well with Roy Disney.

When Katzenberg came on board, he was put in charge of creating an animated flick to keep The Boss (i.e., Roy) happy. Eisner was convinced that to only way to have a hit was to make the film “hip” and “in tune with today’s audience”. They had to junk all of the “out-dated” fairy tale elements and make modern films. Basically, to update the animated films the same way that Eisner had updated the live action films from ‘The Computer That Wore Tennis Shoes’ into ‘Down and Out in Beverly Hills’. So, this is where the idea for ‘Oliver and Company’ came from – a hip cast (well, as hip as they could afford at the time), an urban setting that people could relate to, and a soundtrack filled with trying-to-be Top 40 tunes.

It was also at the same time a film called ‘The Little Mermaid’ was in production. Katzenberg saw the work and (according to him) fell in love with it instantly. What followed was a debate about the direction Disney animated films should take. The debate didn’t last long because of the box office failures of ‘Oliver’ and ‘The Rescuers Down Under’ and the success of ‘Mermaid’. Disney films were essentially Broadway style musicals right up until Katezenberg left. Since then, the films are trending back to Eisner’s vision – ‘Tarzan’ to ‘Emperor’ to ‘Atlantis’ to ‘Treasure Planet’.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. Sometimes the story behind the movie is more interesting than the movie itself.

[DisneyFanGuy]

Very interesting AV. Thanks for the inside story.

[ladyntramplover]

I personally believe that there is enough room (and money) for all kinds of movies to do well. Movies such as "Shrek" are fine. Believe me, Disney will still make money, even with such stinkers as the latest sequels.

I do have to agree that Disney needs to go back to the Broadway style of movies they were producing in the early 90's. I used to buy all the soundtracks even before I saw the movies because I knew that the music would be great. I stopped doing this once "Mulan" hit. I don't know what the deal is, but Disney has really let their animated movies slide. I think they're more interested in giving quantity than quality. And that makes me very angry.

I was not impressed with "New Groove." It didn't give anything new that "Tarzan" or "Hercules" hadn't given before. Disney needs to really analyze the products they are making.

lady

[beattyfamily]

All I want to say is although it was funny and a cute ending, I think it was really geared towards adults.

Some of the humor was above my 5 year old's head and inappropriate for little ones Thank God she didn't understand alot of it. She kept asking why everyone was laughing.

Stuff I didn't like were: "Eat Me", the comment about one of the Princess not putting out on the first date, Robin Hood's song with reference to him "getting laid", the BIG castle "compensating" something else, etc...

Then there's the a** and D*** words.

I kind of wish I knew this before we went to see it but that's my own fault.

[ScroogesNephew]

Well, it's really not a kids movie.

[joshl33]

After the crap that was dinosaur I would understand that you fine folks would not be able to appreciate a picture as good as Shrek, which also almost overtook another bad disney film this weak in its third week of release (Pearl Harbor).

[YoHo]

Who are you Katzenberg?
I'm sorry, I didn't see Dinosaur, and never claimed anything about its quality. I did however think that Shrek lacked certain qualities that make up a good movie. Qualities that even the likes of Emperor's new groove have.

But thanks for essentially calling me a creten for my lack of appreciation of that computer animated Drival. I just love being talked down to.

Also, why was a movie that was so obvioulsy not intended for a Childrens audience, hyped as a Childrens movie, why Children type tie-ins?
Gee, it sounds just like what happened with Road to El Dorado. At least the Princess isn't a harlot(safe Disney word, insert modern crass term here:bounce: ) like the female character in that movie.

[MikeS]

beatty family

You find that in all films today. The a** word you described was in reference to his donkey therfore not out of context. I found the humor no worse than some Disney films I have watched. I just finished watching The Santa Clause . There was 1 sexual reference about a married man and his assistant, 1 raindeer with a bad gas problem, 1 drug reference not to mention various jokes bashing Neil"s profession. Mighty Joe Young another Disney film,had a very explicit eletrocution scene at the end showing a man on fire being thrown against a fence. Believe me Shrek is no worse maybe even better.

[ladyntramplover]

Just to let everybody know.... "Shrek" is rated PG....as is "Atlantis." So does that answer any questions about the appropriateness for children? Always have to read the fine print. Just because it's animated doesn't mean it is totally squeaky clean.

lady

[MikeS]

Lady
The difference is Brand marketing. Dreamworks has no conintation for kids movies as their films bridge a vast array of types from Chicken Run to Saving Private Ryan. Dreamworks does not always have a kidsafe tag just from its logo. Shrek was rated PG and parents should not always assume because it's animated it's a kids movie. Hey look at Fritz the Cat in th 60's a cartoon but NOT for kids.
Disney on the other hand has Kidsafe written all over it's logo.So when I took my kid to see The Santa Clause (don't get me wrong it's a fun good movie) but my 5 yo asked me questions about the drug reference of the 60's and I feel a parent shoud not be placed in that situation in a film from Disney especially one aimed at kids. It's not the film it's the company behind it.Dreamworks never proclaimed to kid only but Disney (not Hollywood, Touchstone or Miramax) has. That's my problem with it.

[beattyfamily]

Ok, I was just giving my opinion. I didn't insult anyone or single out anyone.

I also said it was my own fault for not making sure it was appropriate for my 5 year old.

I also didn't compare it to Disney movies or say Disney movies were better.

That being said, even though it was PG as a "warning" to parents, they are still trying to get kids to see it with their advertising. My daughter saw all the Burger King, Wal-Mart, and also some ice cream shop commercials and was desperate to see it. Again, my fault for not checking the rating and seeing why it was rated PG.

FYI, I didn't let my daughter see Dinosaur. I'm not discussing "Mighty Joe" or "The Santa Claus" here. I have opinions on them too, but I was giving my opinion on Shrek.

Even though they were referring to the Donkey as an A** or a Jack***, I don't like it just like I wouldn't like them referring to a female dog by her technical name either. That's just me, I know.

:D

[ladyntramplover]

I agree that some things in "Shrek" and other Disney live-action films are not appropriate for children. What should parents do? Do they need to go out and see the movie first before they entertain the idea of taking their children? I don't know. I don't have the answer to that.

I must say this, though. Most of the jokes and language in "Shrek" go over kids' heads anyway...except for the visual references of coure. It's a miracle that the kids remember the references when they start asking their parents about them. And to be honest, there are a lot of families who don't care what their kids watch on tv or at the movies. For example, one of my first grade students went into a huge summary about all three "Scream" movies. Believe me, I hope I'm never like that as a parent when I have children, but I hate to admit that kids are beginning to be inundated with this kind of material. They are being desensitized to it every day. I'm not saying this is right or wrong; I'm just stating the facts. Personally, I saw nothing wrong with "Shrek." I know I'm a pretty liberal person, but I'm also a school teacher so I know a lot about what kids should or should not see.

If you don't think it's appropriate, then don't let your kids watch it. Problem solved.

And as for the tie-in with Burger King, well, that's another story altogether.

lady

[dizneenut]

I thought it was hilarious!! Can't wait till its out on DVD!!;)

[Galahad]

We saw Shrek this weekend. It was pretty good, but I really didn't get very excited about it. The production quality was excellent, but I don't really get into the frat house humor. My sons like that though. Am I the only one who thinks that the Disney references weren't completely benign? I sensed a little hostility from Mr. Katzenberg.

[Fiver]

well my DH dragged me to see it. Now I'm fiercely loyal to Disney, so I teased him that I wouldnt give our money to that other company. I finally gave in under the agreement that if anyone asked I was drugged, tied up, and forced to watch it. Now I was actually expecting it to be very good since the majority of people were saying it was hilarious. I wasnt impressed. It was okay, but I just cant understand why its doing this well in the theaters. I laughed maybe 3 times(bird blowing up was funny), and didnt leave the theater feeling as though I had just seen something amazing. Even my husband who is not as Disney biased as me said that it lacked something, and that it wasnt really that funny. I guess to each their own. I think some people will love it...I was definately not one of those people....oh well

Fiver

[BRERALEX]

it lacked something alright. a story maybe with a true beginning middle and an end. just saw evolution it was funny but also lacked a good solid story.

[D'AngelosdoDisney]

We loved it!!! And, We have seen all the Disney films up to this point... I was LOL so hard my daughter was upset with me... But, you had to have seen alot of old dinsey films to really understand! "Get the dead broad off the table".. LOL

[The Hunt]

My family liked it a lot, but I don't think it will have a lot of "shelf life." I don't think we'd buy the video. (I feel the same way about Emperor's New Groove.) I thought the Disney references were funny but not too obnoxious. ( The take on It's A Small World really killed me.)

A tip for those concerned about ratings--check out www.screenit.com, which lists in great specificity everything potentially offensive in new movies.

Another tip: to see a different vision of family animation, rent the Japanese films "My Neighbor Totoro" and "Kiki's Delivery Service," distributed by Disney. Another film by the same director, "Princess Mononoke," is also very good, but it is extremely violent--not for young kids.

[TinkerbellRules]

**None of Dreamworks movies, including Shrek, can hold a candle to Disney's best**

Prince of Egypt's animation was the most awesome I've seen! Especially, the parting of the sea and the scene where Moses is dreaming and finds out what happened in the temple. I was amazed by the animation and absolutely loved it and so was my DH & DD!! I love art and was amazed by the animation. My daughter has all the Disney movies as well as Prince and Joseph.

She liked Shrek. My sis took her so I can't comment personally, but they liked it. Friends of mine thought it was totally hilarious.

I, too, get really upset when the movies are geared towards children, but contain offensive lanuage and such (ie, Ants - cuss word *ss, George of the Jungle *ss). Even the Grinch has some. Why? Why can't we take our children to the movies without worrying about the lanuage. It doesn't add a darned thing to the quality of the movie. OH, my DH always says "he/she owes me a dollar (for the cuss word) ;)