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DGuiltinan

05-09-2003, 12:51 PM

Country Bear movie, Pirates of the Caribbean, and now Haunted Mansion movie??

Not to mention Lilo and Stitch with the O'hana references...

Is Disney promoting its theme parks through movies??

Sarangel

05-09-2003, 01:36 PM

This is what Disney's CEO calls "synergy"

Welcome to the rumors & news board.

Sarangel

DGuiltinan

05-09-2003, 01:41 PM

Synergy, hmmm - I like the sounds of that!!

I can see the synergy there. I feel like the Country Bears will now be a little more interesting the next time I go! And I am looking forward to the pending new movie releases...

What's next, Gilbert Godfried starring in "Tiki Room, the Movie"??

Planogirl

05-09-2003, 01:49 PM

Imagine what Disney could do with It's A Small World. :)

Golter

05-09-2003, 04:08 PM

I think it's really a good thing to cross sell the Disney brand. I watching an episode of NYPD Blue and Sipowitz (sp?) was taking his kid to WDW. I thought wow what a great dad and it makes want to watch ABC all the time LOL.

Sarangel

05-09-2003, 04:25 PM

What's next, Gilbert Godfried starring in "Tiki Room, the Movie"??Heavens, don't say that out loud... Don't you know Disney executives moniter fan sites like ours for this sort of 'wish.'

On the other hand, you could always let them build.... err.... film it & then sue, make a mint and buy lifetime Annual Passes (or go to the Bahamas & retire, your choice).

Sarangel

year2late

05-09-2003, 04:36 PM

I was thinking more like Kramer as the Skipper of the Jungle Cruise Boat. :rolleyes:

doubletrouble_vb

05-09-2003, 06:02 PM

It's A Small World - The Movie...

Wow!!! Wait til I tell the boss about this movie idea!

KIRSTIN'S MOMMY

05-09-2003, 06:37 PM

What's up with your countdown timer? Are you really planning a trip 40 years from now? I thought I planned ahead!!! lol

manning

05-09-2003, 11:12 PM

It's A Small World - The Movie...

Do you think when the people come out of the movie they will be singing "It's a Small World after all" or have a stark raving mad look on their faces yelling "put me out of my misery, I'll give you anything if you can get that stupid tune out of my head ?":jester:

EUROPA

05-09-2003, 11:28 PM

I can't wait for "Monorail the Movie" or the Teacups II.

DC7800

05-10-2003, 03:07 PM

Well, it still beats the direct to video sequel: Superstar Limo - The Motion Picture.

lrodk

05-10-2003, 03:38 PM

I feel like the Country Bears will now be a little more interesting the next time I go!

I wish Disneyland'ers could say the same. They shut down the Country Bear Jamboree about the same time they green-lighted the film. So Californians now get to experience the extreme opposite of synergy.

Zippa D Doodah

05-10-2003, 03:40 PM

Great ideas folks....

How about "Barnstormer II: Goofy's Revenge"

*Robin*

05-10-2003, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by DGuiltinan
Synergy, hmmm - I like the sounds of that!!
...

What's next, Gilbert Godfried starring in "Tiki Room, the Movie"??

Oh Good GOD NO!! I still don't understand why they made HM into a comedy. That just depresses me beyond depression.

Gilbert Godfried would be the proverbial straw!!

:eek:

Robin

turbodisney

05-10-2003, 07:21 PM

How about The Witches of Space Mountain and then the sequel...Return To Space Mountain..

KNWVIKING

05-10-2003, 09:24 PM

The Swiss Fam treehouse came after book and movie. So did 20k Leagues, Peter Pan,Pooh,Mermaid, Splash. I'm sure there are others. Guess Walt just never used the word Synergy.

Sarangel

05-12-2003, 10:23 AM

Vike -

It's not that Synergy (in and of itself) is a bad thing, but that Uncle Mike & his cronies are doing such a poor job of it. Maybe the Pirates Movie will change my mind on this point, since all the buzz is good, but I sorta doubt it. Synergy should give the guest/customer more of what they want & not force feed it a la "Cinderella 2," "Country Bears," etc.

Sarangel

raidermatt

05-12-2003, 05:27 PM

Sarangel is right...what it comes down to is execution. Splash is a wonderful execution of the Song of the South story. That's quite different from making a movie simply because you like saying the word synergy.

Regardless of what one believes is the reason for the decline in Disney's ability to execute such "synergistic" projects, there is most definitely a problem.

As has been pointed out before, making a movie out of a ride, ride out of a movie, or a movie out of a Grimm story is not a problem in and of itself. Whether its done with any consistent success depends on the objectives/goals/talent of those involved.

KNWVIKING

05-12-2003, 11:25 PM

My post wasn't about synergy being good or bad, it was more a counter to all the previous posts about the next ride movies to be released. My interpretation of those posts was that they were ment to bash the idea of developing a movie after a ride. I was just pointing out that Walt had no problem basing a ride after movie and I doubt he would have a problem basing a movie on a ride.

EUROPA

05-13-2003, 12:27 AM

Is it really " synergy" when the rides and movies are decades apart?

I doubt Walt would have been totally against it either, but the difference his that he was better in the execution of the idea. The concept was not his sole ride/movie design inspiration either. I doubt Walt would have had to rely on dragging out 30 year old dark rides as “new movie ideas”.

kitnrose

05-14-2003, 04:02 PM

Motivation seems to be key as well. With the origional dark rides it always seemed like the feeling behind them was "woudn't it be great to let the guest really be in the movie?" With PotC, CBs (they closed the one in DL??? I'm crying now. I loved that show.) and HM I just keep getting the twin thoughts that Disney's run out of ideas and that they're despate for money. Quite a far cry from "living the magic" of the dark rides.

DNSDisney

05-15-2003, 12:49 AM

This is just my 02 but wouldn't it make more sense for Disney to do the ride first then have the movie come out within a yr of the ride? That way the ride would feed the movie popularity and then the movie would feed the ride/park back again.... Does this make sense to anyone other than myself?
They could put an ad for the ride at the end of the movie, make people want to experiance that haven't or make them miss the fun of Disney to return again. I think this is just common sense and the understanding of human nature. Something that it seems Disney heads don't use.

MJames41

05-16-2003, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by KNWVIKING
I was just pointing out that Walt had no problem basing a ride after movie and I doubt he would have a problem basing a movie on a ride. I agree, Walt wouldn't have a problem with a movie based on a ride, but he would have had a big problem with a bad movie based on a ride (Country Bears).

He would have had a big problem with a bad movie period, and it seems like that is the only thing Disney can produce recently (instead of getting a bad movie as the exception, it now seems the good movies are). I mean, Hunchback 2? 102 Damations followed by 101 Dalmations II? I think the executives are Disney have lost their touch in so many ways.

KNWVIKING

05-16-2003, 01:18 PM

But I'm fairly certain Walt had his share of clunkers also. If memory serves me correctly,wasn't Fantasia an expensive bomb ?

I'm never in favor of making a bad movie and I doubt very seriously ME sits up on his pedestal and intentionally dreams up bad movie ideas, he's just shown no talent for picking winners lately.