View Full Version : Can DS still use his old "child" park hopper days now that he's 10?
koswalt
05-23-2001, 12:02 PM
Anyone have experience in this area?
dbail2
05-23-2001, 02:43 PM
We did and no one cared.........:bounce:
Lorix2
05-23-2001, 02:55 PM
hi,
my daughter will just have turned 10 in June and we go in October....think I could just buy the child pass for her? ..I'd hate to miss out saving a few dollars by just a couple of months...
dbail2 said no one cared when she used it.....
has anyone ever questioned you about the age of you're kids if they happened to be tall for their age??
are their employees actually handling you're passes for admission or do you insert it an automatic machine??? (Haven't been since 1986 - I'm a disney dinosaur! LOL)
koswalt
05-24-2001, 10:42 AM
Bump
dbail2
05-24-2001, 11:17 AM
We just inserted the cards in the machines at the gate. There are employees there helping but no body ever looked to see what type of card we had.
:bounce:
mattlm
05-24-2001, 04:47 PM
I noticed the last time I was there that there is a 2 line LCD display on the park side of the turnstyles that indicates the type of pass you are using (AP, Park Hopper, Child, Adult, etc), how many time's it had been used that day, and, I think, the number of day's left (or used - hard to tell) on the Park Hopper. Net is they don't have to look at the pass to tell what it is. They just choose not to care.
imgoingtodisney
05-24-2001, 07:01 PM
Sorry but whenever we got anywhere I always pass son off as being 1 year younger than he is if that is the age cutoff. Noone ever seems to notice. If age is 4 then I'll pass him off as 4 at age 5 but not at age 6, etc.
mum4jenn
05-24-2001, 07:29 PM
This might not be the popular answer but if you pass your child off as being younger than they are then that is cheating and lying and you are teaching your child that it is ok to do it. There are a lot of problems with kids these days and they need good role models. They do not need to be taught by their parents to lie cheat and steal which is EXACTLY what is being done. My dd is 3 and she still passes for being younger but we started buying her park passes when she turned 3 and did not try to pass her off as being younger. She was almost given a free meal a couple of times but I made sure they knew she was three and not free anymore. I want my child to grow up to have good morals and to be honest even if it might cost a little more.
Plan Man
05-24-2001, 09:20 PM
Do the right thing. Whether it has a negative impact on your child or not - Do what is right.
I know the place is expensive and we all want to save money but it is stealing plain and simple - nothing else.
mum4jenn
05-24-2001, 10:59 PM
It gives me hope for the world!!!
What the people in this situation should do with left over passes from a childs ticket is to trade the ticket in for the adult pass. The left over money value would be applied towards the adult ticket.
Even though there are people that cheat the system every day that still does not make it right. ;)
dbail2
05-25-2001, 06:20 AM
The question was about an unused day off an old hopper.
Lorix2
05-25-2001, 07:09 AM
geez, never thought this question would raise a stir...
I never looked at it as cheating...just to clarify - I would not have "prepped" my daughter to lie about her age to anyone, she would have not known anything about the childpass. I certainly don't condone or allow lieing. I'm one of the most honest people you will ever meet. I actually turned in $400. odd dollars in at a casino once!
I didn't think that Disney would close up shop because I tried to save a litte bit more, not much more, I know NOW because I just looked it up, but it would have been more money to spend toward staying on one of their properties or for souvies, or whatever....I understand there is a cut off date, but I think that 10 yrs old is still a child, not considered an adult..so why should they be charged as one?
kamgen
05-25-2001, 09:09 AM
I always wonder the same thing about meals. I mean, if 3-11 is a child, but your 12 year old eats less than an 8 year old, how does that work out?
I think you should be honest, but when it comes to meals, I am torn. The price difference is so extreme and the difference between an 11 year old and a 12 year old is so small.
ANy other opinions on this?? Do the restaraunts check age? how is this enforced?
It is a touchy subject I think!
Lorix2
05-25-2001, 10:10 AM
I don't think most restaurants will hassle you about ordering a child menu for an older child. I personally have no problem selling a child's meal to a senior citizen or an adult that isn't very hungry....I deal with this every day when I waitress. I wait on alot of families on a budget and I never ask or imply that they shouldn't be ordering a child menu for their 13 yr old. I might be a little discouraged if a party of 10 comes in and orders only $3.99 child meals, I mean that's a little ridiculous, but bottom line, it's customer satisfaction...no questions asked. The only thing some restaurants might not want to give the older child is a bottomless soda since they can usually consume more than a small child and it wouldn't be cost efficient to keep refilling that soda that has the cost already factored in, you see??
kamgen
05-25-2001, 10:32 AM
Thanks Lori for your input.
I was thinking more of the buffet or character meals that have a set price.
How do they know when people are being truthful about the child's age? Also, what if your child doesn't eat that much?
eeyorefanatic
05-25-2001, 11:53 AM
On rides and such i think they figured that if you are at a certain age you are probably a certian height and thus would ride the big rides sames as an adult. I have heard of parks that actually base admission on height rather than age.
As for resturaunts other than charachter meals, anyone can order of the kids menue or split an entree to get smaller portions. Chrachter meals do become tricky but since they are bufet it does make sense to charge adults more. I think they just picket one age that ment "adult" and used it across the board. Perhaps they should charge kids more for charachter meals since they enjoy it more ;)
pnelson
05-25-2001, 11:59 AM
People on this board get very touchy about "cheating" Disney. On my next trip, I am probably going to have the opposite problem. My son will be 9 but he is so tall people think that he is 12. (He's only 7 right now!) If I bought a hopper when he was 8 or 9, I would use the last day on it even if he was 10. No big deal!!!
robinb
05-25-2001, 01:35 PM
koswalt,
I would say that you should go ahead and use your left over days on your child hopper pass. I think that people get their undies in a bundle about "cheating" Disney because we all think of Disney as a perfect and pure place. I am far more realistic. If you bought an annual pass for your child when he or she was 9 and used it after the child turned 10 that would be perfectly OK as long as you first used it before their 10th birthday.
michmom
05-25-2001, 02:31 PM
Have to agree with Robin. Use up the existing pass. Buy the adult pass for the rest ofr the vissit to the other parks, etc. It's amazing how these board can go so totally off on another track!
Wheelsie
05-25-2001, 02:31 PM
A friendly reminder to refrain from name calling and such..and to keep on topic! :) No need for things to get heated.. just have fun and keep it light! :)
AS I recall the topic was about using un-used park hopper days right? :)
I thank you very much!
Carry On! :)
mom42860
05-26-2001, 01:43 PM
Just thought I'd pass this along: when we went a few years ago my ds was 6 and dd was 8. They each have a day left on PH passes. I called and spoke to someone at WDW to see if they could use these days in Sept. when ds will be 10 and dd 12. She said my son could "get away with it"- her words- because the age was so close. But I would probably be questioned on my dd and to go to guest relations when we got to the park and pay the difference on the ticket to upgrade to an adult.
This was from calling 407wdisney.
mum4jenn
05-27-2001, 04:19 PM
If anyone recalls I DID say that the unused days could be traded in for an adult pass. It does not matter whether or not the person "has permission" to get away with it or not. Right is right and wrong is wrong.
AND I am not honest because I think Disney is so perfect. I am honest because that is how I was taught and that is what I teach my child.
mom42860
05-27-2001, 05:18 PM
From what I have read on these boards, this is a very decent group of people who try very hard to help each other with questions and problems as they arise. We all try our best. It's a shame that there are some who chose to be so judgemental, it diverts from the purpose of the boards.
mum4jenn
05-27-2001, 06:12 PM
Well, I did give information.... I stated what the person should do with the ticket. TRADE it in for an adult ticket. I believe that one person said they had not even thought of it as stealing so there again I have given out information.
I am not judging anyone. I have not named any names. All I have done was write the TRUTH. There will be only one true judgement of stealing and it will be from someone FAR superior than I.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Lorix2
05-27-2001, 08:57 PM
It was me that had said I hadn't thought of using a child pass for a 10 yr old that would have been 10 only a couple of months....never thought I'd be accused of cheating of Disney...this is way out of hand, like I said before, my DD would have known nothing about it..
I wonder though...when everyone gets on these boards and brags to no end on the great discounts they receive on disney properties and take hundreds of dollars off their reservations using codes, is this considered cheating Disney??? I'm sure I'll be flamed for this....why was my question so terrible?
mum4jenn
05-27-2001, 09:58 PM
No using coupons and discounts (many Disney sponsored) are not cheating. If you use a coupon to buy a loaf of bread that is not cheating and neither is using a coupon for a meal or a discount for a ticket.
YES Disney prices are outrageous but no one here makes the rules. My DD went free several times because she was UNDER three. We took her then as many times as we could because she was free!! But when she turned 3 in September and we went to Disney in December we bought her a ticket. Goodness yes she could and still does pass for being younger than she is. Were we tempted to try to sneak her in?? YES!!! Were we advised by lots of people to sneak her in???YES!!! Have lots of people already done this???YES!!! Do we make tons of money and feel that money is nothing???NO!!! We just feel EVERYONE should be honest.
My dd was very proud of the fact that she was three years old and I was not about to try to convince her that " no sweetie you are really only two at Disney World" .
Yes Disney makes a ZILLION dollars every day off of hard working people like us but that STILL does not make it right to lie about your childs age in order to save a few bucks. And just because noone walks up to you and ask how old your child is that still does not make it right to sneak your child in as younger than they are.
Once again I have named no names nor have I called anyone a name. Once again I know that everyone is going to do what they want to when it comes to cheating the system or with being honest. Nothing I write here will change anyones mind when it is alreadymade up. However if one person thinks about it and decides to stand up and teach right from wrong by example then all of this will have been worth the sore fingers in typing this!!!;) :D ;) :D ;) :D ;) :D ;) :D ;) :D
1canadian
05-27-2001, 09:59 PM
I've been wondering the same thing about character meals.
My daughter is 12, but eats less than most 5 year olds, and it is hard to swallow to pay adult meal prices for her.
Plus as Canadians we have to spend $1.60 to get just one American Dollar!! It definitely bites!!
robinb
05-28-2001, 11:20 PM
Once again I have named no names nor have I called anyone a name.
True. However, the tone of your posts seem to indicate that anyone who does not agree with your black and white world view is a liar, a cheat and a parent who teaches the wrong thing to their kids.
Yes, the original poster could apply the remaining days to an adult pass for their 10 year old. Depending on their travel plans, that may in fact be the best solution for them. However, if they're only at WDW for the couple of days they have left on their passes, then I see nothing wrong with using the passes they already have.
slp87
06-15-2001, 08:20 PM
Let your 10 year old use the remaining days on the pass!! You paid for it and I know by what you've said that you will buy an adult one next time. It's really not any different than me using my passes from '97 that I bought at a cheaper price.
Hi everyone,
What started as an honest question that only needed a simple "yes" or "no" answer has turned in to a debate on morals. Yes, this is a very touchy subject, but it can be discussed in a civilized, adult-like manner.
My co-moderator, Wheelsie, already asked once to refrain from insults and bashing, but such attacks have continued. For this reason, this thread has been locked. Please remember that the DIS is about helping out fellow Disney fans, not calling them liars and cheaters. Thanks so much! :D
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