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DisOrBust
04-09-2003, 11:19 AM
MGM was always my Dh's favorite park but they keep getting rid of shows there. Has anyone heard of any replacements for Hunchback or Doug?

MikePezz
04-09-2003, 12:19 PM
Bring back superstar TV!

That was a unique concept. Disney could even make a few bucks by selling tapes of to the participants after the show.

daannzzz
04-09-2003, 03:12 PM
Maybe they will move Superstar Limo from DCA to Disney MGM Studios.

YoHo
04-09-2003, 03:55 PM
As a Disneyland Resort Passholder, I can only pray that they do move Superstar Limo to Florida so I don't have to see acknowledge its existance anymore.

OnWithTheShow
04-09-2003, 05:00 PM
Look for new attractions to be announced in the next year or two, they will most likely include the long awaited star tours makeover (could be announced as early as the star wars weekends next month) one or two new attractions in the backlot area, and a new show for abc tv theater.

Planogirl
04-09-2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by OnWithTheShow
Look for new attractions to be announced in the next year or two, they will most likely include the long awaited star tours makeover (could be announced as early as the star wars weekends next month) one or two new attractions in the backlot area, and a new show for abc tv theater.

Woohoo!!! This would be great. A new show in the abc theater and another in the old Hunchback area would be super. I don't have a lot of faith in a new Star Wars attraction but I hope that you're right.

And what about a character meal? MGM really needs one now. :mad:

Sarangel
04-10-2003, 09:56 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't MGM just get the new 'Stars & Cars' Parade, along with the BAH and the other stuff for the 100 years celebration?

Frankly, if I was running Disney, I'd be more worried about Disneyland: They're approaching the 50th Anniversary & nothing seems to be planned for it. Yes, they did just put in a version of Pooh, but Tomorrowland is practically empty...

Sarangel

DisOrBust
04-10-2003, 10:14 AM
The "new" stars in cars parade replaced the old Mulan parade so I don't look at that as "added". The "Walt's dream" is a new attraction but I don't think it makes up for loosing Huntchback and Doug. Personally I am waiting for the axe to drop on WWTBAM. I can't imagine they would keep that around for long after it was cancelled. Besides they could come up with a new attraction based on "I'm a Celebratey..Get me outta here!".

As a "family Park" if your kids don't do TOT or RNRC it 's become a "half" day park IMHO.

Greg K.
04-10-2003, 11:03 AM
...they may be freshening up the Great Movie Ride, and adding something called Cinemagique (sp?) from Disneyland Paris.

The Walt Disney Story walk-through is sorta neat and new, though, isn't it? I know it's not as thrilling as the Rock-n-Roller Coaster, but I liked it. :D

doubletrouble_vb
04-10-2003, 11:19 AM
Mmmm well I hope they add something...as much as people call AK a half day park I definitely treat MGM that way. I think its because it is a park based on movies and I had an expectation that they would include new blockbusters as time goes on.

YoHo
04-10-2003, 12:20 PM
I thought Who Wants to be a Millionaire was still on in Syndication? With a different host. I see commercials for it all the time.

mudhen
04-10-2003, 01:20 PM
Millionaire is still on, one the ladies from "The
View" hosts it. We get it at 4 or 4:30 here in
Toledo.

Maybe I'm off base here, but I feel that TDA execs
over the years have have turned a deaf ear towards
the PR people and Imagineers, and instead got in
bed with bean counters. I know, I know, bad economy this, war that, it's a business this,
profit margins that. But it just seems that many
new attractions lately have been, "what can we do
to pacify our guests at a minimal cost to us".
Instead of, "How can we WOW the heck out of our guests and be steps ahead in the theme park industry".

Mission Space, Philarmagic, and this Everest thing
may change that, at least I hope. I just wish it
wouldn't take years from announcement to opening.

stinkerbelle
04-10-2003, 02:50 PM
I totally agree with MGM being a "half day park". Seriously - what is there to do?

TOT
RNRC
Indy (and it's getting old)
GMR
Back stage tour (also - getting old)
beauty and the beast
star tours
WWTBAM

Hell - I just walked around the park in my mind and i got bored. I'm not a roller coaster fan - so DF rides RNRC to his hearts content while I either get some sun or shop.

It's not that it doesn't offer alot - it's what it offers is getting OLD...alot of the "repeat guests" need to see something new.

Greg K.
04-10-2003, 02:54 PM
Wouldn't it make sense for them to add a version of the Indy ride from Disneyland to MGM?

Or the Indy coaster from DL Paris?

Or maybe even the Roger Rabbit ride from DL?

Any of those would add a little sizzle, don'cha think?

Greg K.
04-10-2003, 03:03 PM
FWIW: Here's what WDWMAGIC.com has to say about Cinemagique, from last fall...

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The popular attraction from the new Walt Disney Studios in Paris is being strongly tipped to be installed into the Disney MGM Studios in 2005.

Below is a description from the Paris version.

SCRIPT


Guests take their seats in an 1100-seat movie theatre that is reminiscent of the projection rooms found in the Hollywood movie studios. Seen from the outside, the studio presents the same Spanish Revival architecture as the movie palaces built in Hollywood in the 1930s. Inside, the screening room is equipped with the very latest technological innovations, while everything from the usher's uniforms to the art deco interior design offer guests a nostalgic glimpse of the cinema of the past.

The cinema show gets under way with a selection of cinema's greatest moments. Suddenly, a member of the audience interrupts the screening. The wizard on the silver screen is distracted by this, and magically transports the culprit from the auditorium into the movie! The 'hero' is plunged into an incredible series of adventures, finding himself in the midst of a variety of film genres including comedy, westerns, action, adventure, musicals and… romance.

During the adventure, the hero falls in love with the young and beautiful leading lady, and at one point attempts to save her life by taking an arrow that was destined for her.

The dramatic climax to the film features a knight who hurls a huge sword 'through' the silver screen, offering the hero an escape route to reality. Once back, he is nevertheless confronted with a choice: should he stay in his own familiar world or risk everything and return to an unknown place where love may await…?

OnWithTheShow
04-10-2003, 03:12 PM
Just an interesting note, the ABC TV Theater has 1000 seats. Hmmmm...

Scoop, post or PM me with what you have heard about the Backlot Theater. I have actually heard that it will be removed not get a new show.

Another Voice
04-10-2003, 04:38 PM
"Maybe the ABC Theater is an option"

If you've seen the ratings for ABC – The Network you'll understand why there will not be any major additions to the parks for at least five years.

raidermatt
04-10-2003, 06:51 PM
Given where the parks are now, I understand why Epcot and AK should be the first priorities. Epcot's attendance is sinking like Stitch in the Pacific Ocean, and AK has declined each year since it opened.

But all the parks need a certain amount of ongoing investment, and I'm not sure that one major attraction every 8-10 years is adequate (3-4 years since RnRC, +5 possibly until next). Perhaps things like Cinemagique, or a replacement for Hunchback will tide MGM over, if they do happen. But if MGM really is largely ignored for another 5 years, Disney may find it in the same shape Epcot is in today, and need another "revitalization" (Eisner's word, not mine).

You can't rob Peter to pay Paul and expect Peter not to suffer.


For us, MGM is a day and a half. We have a 4 year old, which brings Playhouse Disney into the equation (for now), and some of our group enjoys ToT and RnRC, though we don't like that we have to split up due to some not being able to, or not wanting to ride.

That said, we were underwhelmed by the backlot tour, and skipped it last time. Millionaire has no appeal to us either. With Hunchback now closed, and the GMR probably going to be closed for rehab on our next trip, MGM probably is back to a one-day park for us. Due to Star Wars Weekends, however, we are scheduling 2 days...

wdwguide
04-10-2003, 06:58 PM
I can see how the Studios would be last in line - RnRC, Tower of Terror 4 (which Disney pretty much considers a new attraction) and Fantasmic are among the most recent additions to any of the parks.
Still, it's sad that after almost a decade and a half the park does still not offer a whole day experience.

I personally think what the Studios need most is a family-friendly dark ride, followed by a re-imagineering of the Lucas-attractions and some new scenes for the Great Movie Ride (if just Miramax hadn't passed up Lord of the Rings...). Time to tear down the useless New York Street set and *do* something with that real estate.

grinningghost
04-11-2003, 04:18 PM
I really wish they'd bring back Superstar TV. Even though it used the same shows over and over, it was always a different experience because new people were participating. One of my greatest MGM memories is a SSTV "Cheers" segment. One of the guys in the "birthday" scene was hysterical.

I also agree with the need for a family friendly dark ride. The backlot tour needs some updated sets. Alot of younger people don't know much about Ernest or the Golden Girls.

And why MGM even thought about closing the GMR is beyond me. That's the most movie-oriented attraction in all of MGM. It IS a movie theme park, isn't it? Jeesh, I hope the rehab is a good one and that it hangs around for awhile.

wtg2000
04-12-2003, 12:21 PM
Cinemagique is about the only good thing at Disney Studios Paris, besides the awesome car stunt show. It features Martin Short and Julie Delpy (in a Star Wars Stormtropper outfit!), and is pretty much as described above. There are a couple 4-D effects. However, it is another "film" and these do tend to get old sometimes, and it would trample a bit on the Great Movie Ride concept.

WDWalways
04-17-2003, 10:28 AM
I would like to see the GMR be updated to include newer movies but not taken out completely - my husband and Mom love that ride!! They definitely need to update or add something to the Backlot tour - something "thrilling" other than Catastrophe Canyon and some newer, updated movie/tv sets/props. I would LOVE it if they could do to the Animation building what they did in DCA - that Animation building is AWESOME!!

candleonwater
04-17-2003, 11:18 AM
I can't say that I dislike MGM as it is now, but it is not a "major" destination for us... we tend to hit the park later in the afternoons... so it's even less than a half day park for us.

DisOrBust
04-17-2003, 12:40 PM
I am amazed that there are no CURRENT plans to replace Hunchback! I hope 5 yrs is an over estimate. Isn't there anything little new thing planned? It doesn't have to be an E ticket just something to justify going back?

Peter Pirate
04-17-2003, 03:36 PM
MGM used to be our favorite park but the closing of Doug & Huntchback has put a serious dent in our opinion. We now like AK best (I know this is unusual) but IMO Disney would have to do so little to make MGM whole again...Namely just replace the two shows...Come on Disney!!!

Rideengineer
04-17-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by wdwguide
Time to tear down the useless New York Street set and *do* something with that real estate.

Then where would they film amazing promo music videos like the one for "That's so Raven"??? :tongue: :teeth: :tongue: :teeth:

Couldn't resist!

TRAPPED-PARENT
04-18-2003, 10:34 AM
Wouldn't it make sense for them to add a version of the Indy ride from Disneyland to MGM?

I think this is basically "Dinasour" in a different setting so would not recommend duplicating something that is already at WDW.

grinningghost
04-18-2003, 10:40 AM
What I wonder is, how many people read threads like these, and find their view of the park becomes terribly jaded. I know that most of what is said is true, but all in all, it's still a great park and I wouldn't dream of skipping over it on my trip. Has anyone really decided not to visit MGM after reading this thread?

TRAPPED-PARENT
04-18-2003, 10:44 AM
Also looking at the remarks about the backlot tour ... talk about things declining over time ...

When the park first opened the backlot tour consisted of:

> Miniatures demonstration (still there in updated version)
>"Blue Screen" demonstration with a couple kids in the "show" based on Honey I Shrunk the Kids
> Visit to a working TV studio (we saw actual filming of show w/ Hulk Hogan) ... including the "sound" studio and a demo of how films are made ("The Lottery" w/ Bette Midler)
> Tour tram including Catastrophe Canyon (still there)

They have basically shortened the "Backlot Tour" by 1/2. I'm thinking that the reasoning was that people didn't want to devote a full 2 hours for this one "attraction".

Thinking back, it is really a shame because this is suppose to be a "Movie/TV" themed park and the original tour really gave you a feel for how movies and TV showed were filmed.

OnWithTheShow
04-18-2003, 04:20 PM
The Orginal Studios Tour I believe clocked in at nearly three hours. The tour was then split into Backstage Pass, and the Backlot Tour. With fewer and fewer shows/movies being filmed at the Studios and Millionaire taking over two soundstages Backstage Pass was shuttered. There are still a few places where an interesting attraction could be placed in the existing Studios infrastructure. The ABC TV theater sits empty as does the Backlot theater (I have heard rumors of its impending removal). Soundstage One is rarely used for filming anymore and has enough space for either a show, film, or a moderate sized dark ride (I vote dark ride!). And Star Tours could be updated. That is 4 new attractions right there. Who knows when they might happen though.

leanne2255
04-20-2003, 05:46 PM
WELL........ when i go to MGM i could ride ToT and RNR forever!!! that is all i do when i am there. BUT i do agree, that some of the older rides (not ToT or RnR or some others) need to change...... or they need to get some newer attractions/rides. BUT until then.. i'm gunna spend my time going on ToT and RnR over and over and over!!!!:p :) :D

wtg2000
04-24-2003, 07:17 AM
WELL........ when i go to MGM i could ride ToT and RNR forever!!! that is all i do when i am there. I think that's what a lot of people do judging from traffic flow. I wonder if they even realize there's anything beyond Sunset Blvd. I do that sometimes as well. I think any new major attraction would probably go on the other side of the park, otherwise the ground is going to start tipping. :)

sm4987
04-24-2003, 09:32 PM
I treat MGM like a half day park. Besides from playhouse Disney and Fantasmic, my children really didn't enjoy the park. They felt Indy was to long, my son got bored with Beauty and the Beast, Star Tours was alright, neither of them are tall enough for TOT or RnR. When I visited MGM 10 years ago I loved it, not it's iffy at best. I will miss Hunchback. It was truly great. I hope that just like the AK, that MGM will start getting new attractions soon!

abeyst
04-25-2003, 03:16 PM
I agree with all the posts- all 3 parks (minus MK) need work. Epcot and MGM the most. I don't see why they can't throw back in a few shows at MGM to replace Hunchback and Indy while they update Epcot. It's not like they'd be putting in a whole new ride, just updating what's there. That way we wouldn't be waiting years and years and lifetimes before all the parks got something new.

At the rate they're planning to update aka "revitalize", my kids will be grown and never get to experience the same great parks I visited when I was younger.

And if so many parks are going to become 1/2 day parks, there won't be a need to buy passes for your whole trip since you can visit more than one park in a day. I see a money loss!

travelgoddess
04-27-2003, 09:54 AM
The GMR is kust being updated, it will be reopened the end of June.

Luv2Roam
04-27-2003, 10:28 AM
Have to admit, w/o RnRC and ToT we would spend next to no at Disney Studios/MGM.
About the only reaon we go back into the New York Streets anymore is just so DH can see what Toy Story things he can buy. :rolleyes: He likes their selection back there.
But I do have a great photo with me and Kermit and Miss Piggy! ;) So glad I was back there for that! :jester:
The decor and props are great. They just need to make a reason to go there. :rolleyes:

CarolynU
05-05-2003, 09:52 AM
The Studios used to be our favourite park. We always got a fast pass for TOT or RORC and then went to Doug and Hunchback and WWTBAM or Backstage Pass while we waited for the FP time to kick in. We often ate lunch at H&V. With all those attractions up and running we never had a problem filling our day. Also as the shows had such a large capacity the crowds were spaced out. Not so now. With so many things closed WWTBAM is very crowded in the stand by line at peak times and therefore you often have to choose this or TOT. So much has closed now that rather than going to The Studios for three or four days per vacation we now go for perhaps two half days, and eat off site. Shame.

wtg2000
05-05-2003, 10:12 AM
Or the Indy coaster from DL Paris?
I never liked this coaster, and like it even less since it started going backwards. It just hurts. With an Indy attraction already in place I'm pretty sure we won't see this.
Or maybe even the Roger Rabbit ride from DL? This I would like to see. I love this ride. After the movie came out, there were all kinds of offical reports of Roger Rabbit attractions, including Baby Herman's Buggy Ride and a Roger Rabbit coaster. For whatever reason, they never happened. Both DL and TDL got Roger but WDW got zilch. There was even a Roger Rabbit store built but a ride never happened.

I'd like to see them do something with the New York street. Now it just lays there.

mudhen
05-05-2003, 10:37 AM
Disney Studios being considered a 1/2 day
park is all a matter of preference and
perspective.
I can understand this, for me, our local park,
Cedar Point, is no longer a full day park for us.
I've been going 2-3 times per year, for about
20 years.
BUT, for many, it's a 2-3 day vacation destination.
It's hard for me to rip Cedar Point and say they
need new shows and attractions because I've seen
everything by 4:00 (mainly because CP adds new stuff every year or two and it doesn't take them
2-3 years to build it). For most people though, that's just not the case.
Same can be said for the Disney parks. We can only
get to Disney every 3-4 years, so all the parks
are full days, and sometimes we visit all of them
multiple days each trip.

I'll be the first to stand up and say I'd love
to see a new major attraction or updates at the
Studios, but for those who think it's a 1/2 day now, you should have seen it back in 89'-90' when it first opened and they were still charging full price.