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tvwalsh
03-26-2003, 10:01 AM
I joined back in 1992. In those days, every week, there was a free member meal outside with shrimp and steak. If your room was not ready on time you were likely to be given a free meal for your entire party at any WDW restaurant of your choice. (I was given these twice, both times the room was ready by five.) Any occasion caused there to be cookies and snacks put out in Papa's Den. We got more towels. The rooms were cleaner. We did not pay for extra soap or coffee. We could swim at any WDW resort. You could get a free sundae any time of day. DVC vans would take you anywhere you wanted to go for free if you asked. We were sent numerous little gifts and perks. We, of course, got into the parks for free untill 2000. A fruit basket or such was sent if a birthday or anniversary was mentioned to the staff. We got Xmas cards that were pretty and personal. I could go on but it hurts too much!

perdidobay
03-26-2003, 10:05 AM
WOW! I joined in 2001 so I never knew this kind of DVC...good thing, I'd miss it too. But I can see why this has ended....could you imagine our maintenance fees if they kept all that up!

RweTHEREyet
03-26-2003, 10:08 AM
Also remember this, 10 years from "these days" will be "the good ol days".

tvwalsh
03-26-2003, 10:14 AM
I sure hope that the way we are treated today does not look as wonderful to the people who own ten years from now as the old days look to us now. If they do we will we will be serving ourselves, cutting our own lawn, and spending our vacations doing repairs.

Regina
03-26-2003, 10:17 AM
I'm an oldtimer too.

Let's face it tvwalsh, we should have kept our mouths shut and not told anyone what a great deal we had.;) ;)

Yes, when it was smaller, it was more intimate and they expressed their gratitude in many ways with the passes, receptions and gifts. We got an awful lot for $51.00 a point.

I'm glad that we experienced that. I'm also glad that the system has grown to give us so many resort choices, cruises, and exchanges.

Horace Horsecollar
03-26-2003, 10:43 AM
There are only four ways to pay for all these "free" things:

-- Development Expense: The limited park pass program through the end of 1999 was paid for by Disney Vacation Development in order to provide an extra incentive for people to buy. They later decided it was more profitable not to provide this incentive.

-- Ongoing Marketing: The DVC Marketing people sometimes mail "gifts" (calendars, license plates, etc.) to us in hopes that they can sell us more points. The sundaes were a DVC marketing expense; they were at the OKW sales office.

-- Freebies that are paid for by the restaurants, bars, and shops to drive other sales: The restaurants and bars are not operated out the DVC budget. They can provide happy hour promotions or merchadise deals if they decide it's good business.

-- DVC resort operating budget: Anything that not paid for through one of the three methods above, is paid for out of each DVC resort's operating budget -- that means out of our wallets!

So...

If Marketing wants to send me a Christmas card, that fine. But I don't want to pay to send a Christmas card to myself through my DVC dues.

I don't want to pay DVC dues to buy shrimp and steak for people who happen to be at the right place at OKW on the right day of the week. I'd rather have that money in my pocket to buy a meal for my family when and where we want it. (If Marketing wants to feed me shrimp and steak, that's another story.)

The members who plan their vacations around school holidays should not have to subsidize the members who plan their DVC stays around birthdays and anniversaries (by buying fruit baskets for them through DVC dues).

But I'm happy to pay DVC dues so that I can check into a clean, well-maintained condo at a beautiful resort. I know I'll pay for some things that we seldom use (like my DVC resort's share of the WDW transportation system) along with things we use more often.

PamOKW
03-26-2003, 11:27 AM
My "old days" were not quite as lavish as those mentioned here but I agree there were a lot of extras.

I think Regina has the main reason why this still isn't done. We are just too big. A lot of the extra attention was also part of a the sales pitch to future members.

The only thing that irks me is the towel/soap policy. I just think that they manage this at every other hotel on property, I don't see why DVC is so difficult. When someone abuses the system, you tell them no. In any case, this rule doesn't seem to be strongly enforced and I can live with it.

Oh -- and the other pet peeve -- how about a real pass discount? ;)

Maistre Gracey
03-26-2003, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Horace Horsecollar
There are only four ways to pay for all these "free" things:

-- Development Expense: The limited park pass program through the end of 1999 was paid for by Disney Vacation Development in order to provide an extra incentive for people to buy. They later decided it was more profitable not to provide this incentive.

-- Ongoing Marketing: The DVC Marketing people sometimes mail "gifts" (calendars, license plates, etc.) to us in hopes that they can sell us more points. The sundaes were a DVC marketing expense; they were at the OKW sales office.

-- Freebies that are paid for by the restaurants, bars, and shops to drive other sales: The restaurants and bars are not operated out the DVC budget. They can provide happy hour promotions or merchadise deals if they decide it's good business.

-- DVC resort operating budget: Anything that not paid for through one of the three methods above, is paid for out of each DVC resort's operating budget -- that means out of our wallets!

So...

If Marketing wants to send me a Christmas card, that fine. But I don't want to pay to send a Christmas card to myself through my DVC dues.

I don't want to pay DVC dues to buy shrimp and steak for people who happen to be at the right place at OKW on the right day of the week. I'd rather have that money in my pocket to buy a meal for my family when and where we want it. (If Marketing wants to feed me shrimp and steak, that's another story.)

The members who plan their vacations around school holidays should not have to subsidize the members who plan their DVC stays around birthdays and anniversaries (by buying fruit baskets for them through DVC dues).

But I'm happy to pay DVC dues so that I can check into a clean, well-maintained condo at a beautiful resort. I know I'll pay for some things that we seldom use (like my DVC resort's share of the WDW transportation system) along with things we use more often.
In some form or another, don't we really pay for all of these things? Regardless if it is a marketing expense or operating budget?

sgtdisney
03-26-2003, 12:02 PM
Don't forget the peach colored towels, the placemats, the napkins or the coasters..... ;)

Caskbill
03-26-2003, 12:03 PM
In some form or another, don't we really pay for all of these things? Regardless if it is a marketing expense or operating budget? You would only pay for marketing expenses if you purchased new points. All marketing costs would be reflected by the original price/point. If you don't buy any more points, then you don't pay any of those costs.

We ALL pay operating expenses through our annual dues.

I agree with HH completely.
Nothing is free. It's either paid for by new members purchasing (marketing expenses) or current members' fees (annual dues)

There should not be higher fees for all members so that a few members can get some freebies simply because of the luck of the draw, being in the right place at the right time, as Horace explained.

ditzy
03-26-2003, 12:12 PM
They needed the cash to pay off Ovitz, Katzenberg & to reward Mr. E.

mikesmom
03-26-2003, 12:35 PM
Please also remember that one perk you have NOW (no matter when you bought in) is the ability to stay at BWV, BCV, VWL, VB or HH in addition to your "home". Given that comparison, I can buy my own steak.

P.S.: When we went for an anniversary a couple of years ago, they sent us a card and a cake.

Pa@okw95
03-26-2003, 12:53 PM
I remember the good ole days also when I got my room when I checked in instead of a card and telling you to call back. The free passes to the parks were outstanding. When I think about it those passes saved us a great deal of money. There will soon be a time when I don't go to the parks when I stay there. I just can't see paying for me when I only go on about two attractions a day. WDW is turning into an amusement park more and more. In the good old days it was aimed more at the family now they are going after the local traffic with more thrill rides. Remember how EPCOT used to be before with all those rides that young kids could go on, World of Motion, Horizons, and the Living Seas with its ride that now is gone. I remember small things like matching towels and sheets. Trash and Tidy instead of Trash and Towel where they actually cleaned up the place when they came in instead of just changing the towels. What Ican notbelieve most is what people are paying now with far less time on the contract and no passes. The passes alone save thousands of dollars.

joepoe
03-26-2003, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by PamOKW
My "old days" were not quite as lavish as those mentioned here but I agree there were a lot of extras.

The only thing that irks me is the towel/soap policy. I just think that they manage this at every other hotel on property, I don't see why DVC is so difficult. When someone abuses the system, you tell them no. In any case, this rule doesn't seem to be strongly enforced and I can live with it.



We have asked for extra soap and towels a couple times and never been charged...hopefully they only charge the abusers.
As far as perks, we've only been members since 98 and have never gotten any.
Free passes would cost the theme parks about $80,000,000 in revenue every year. (60,000 members x family of 4 x $50 per day x 7 days) They can get people to sign up for $84 a point without all the perks, it's just a business decision that reflects the current market.

SheriB
03-26-2003, 01:47 PM
How many members were there back in the old days? I can't imagine how they could afford all the freebies now, with over 60,000 members and counting. I'd rather do without the freebies than think that my dues would have to be raised to give out the freebies.

However, I do think that back in the old days, the new members were entitled in a way to freebies. They were taking a risk on something that although we know now is a sure thing, back then they didn't. They were the pioneers of the DVC. Heading into the unknown. They should have been given some sort of compensation for their initial risk (the park passes were sweet-wish I knew about DVC long ago)

Sheri

Maistre Gracey
03-26-2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Caskbill
You would only pay for marketing expenses if you purchased new points. All marketing costs would be reflected by the original price/point. If you don't buy any more points, then you don't pay any of those costs.

We ALL pay operating expenses through our annual dues.

I agree with HH completely.
Nothing is free. It's either paid for by new members purchasing (marketing expenses) or current members' fees (annual dues)

There should not be higher fees for all members so that a few members can get some freebies simply because of the luck of the draw, being in the right place at the right time, as Horace explained. Yes, I believe we are saying the same thing.
Nothing is free, and we pay for these perks through higher point costs. We just "pre-pay" for the marketing perks, where as operating perks are paid through continual dues.

reneesam
03-26-2003, 02:24 PM
I'm glad the resale prices didn't go up as quickly as the perks went away...I bought my 300 pt resale for $50/point with 582 banked points in 2000. I may not be an oldtimer but I paid oldtimer prices! When I see the ROFR and resale prices today, I can't believe it.

Chuck S
03-26-2003, 02:35 PM
HH is right,

Many of those "perks" would now come out of the resort operating budget, and be spread around to all of us. Back in the early 1990s they came from marketing, to encourage us to add on points (it worked). Now, DVC pretty well sells itself...extensive marketing is no longer needed.

Buyers no longer feel it is "risky" since it now has a verifiable history to the program, and more than 1 resort. Back then, DVC could have failed, and the management of the resort could have been contracted to outside companies, although still a slight possibility, it was a very REAL possibility in the early years.

Horace Horsecollar
03-26-2003, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Maistre Gracey
Yes, I believe we are saying the same thing.
Nothing is free, and we pay for these perks through higher point costs. We just "pre-pay" for the marketing perks, where as operating perks are paid through continual dues.
But the puchase prices that they charge are based on what the market will pay, not directly on the underlying costs.

For example, when they stopped providing park passes at OKW, the price per point did not go down.

Conversely, the slow sales at Vero Beach caused Disney Vacation Development to incur higher carrying costs for unsold inventory and higher marketing costs, but they couldn't raise the raise the price at Vero higher than at the other DVC resorts to make up for it. (I'm not attacking Vero; it's a wonderful resort.)

If Marketing sends me free DVC Frisbee tomorrow, it won't ever cost me a dime in any way, because I don't plan to buy any more DVC points. And for people who do buy more points, the cost per point won't be adjusted to reflect the cost of buying, packing, and mailing Frisbees.

In contrast, there is a direct correlation between the operating budget (including the set management fee) and annual member dues. If everyone checking in gets at a DVC resort get a Frisbee as a welcome gift, paid for out of the operating budget, then our dues per point will go up based on the cost of those Frisbees at each resort, divided by the total number of points at the resort.

simba3
03-26-2003, 03:11 PM
We bought in September 1995 and the perks like the free park passes for half the room guests, eg. studio sleeps four=2 free passes were terrific. It was all marketing but nice incentives to join. DVC is still a great way to vacation with a group of people who really like the Disney atmosphere. I do think that this committed group should enjoy more consideration in terms of discounts on passes since after all we are loyal and our additional visits to the parks would more than offset the discount.
That would make sense to me.;)

mrsdon
03-26-2003, 03:20 PM
Someome asked how many members there were 10 years ago.
When we joined in 94 we were told that there were about 21,000 members. When we added on Vb in 95 it had jumped to 25,000. Now its up to 71,000. I wonder if thats actual members or #of contracts. I know I have 6 contracts.

GAIL HAYDEN
03-26-2003, 04:17 PM
Horace Horsecollar,

WELL SAID!!!!

GAIL HAYDEN
03-26-2003, 04:19 PM
Don't forget the peach colored towels, the placemats, the napkins or the coasters.....

Or.....the salt and pepper, hand cream, pot holders, mixers (without having to ask for them) etc. You know, all the good things that "grew legs and walked".

Maistre Gracey
03-26-2003, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Horace Horsecollar
But the puchase prices that they charge are based on what the market will pay, not directly on the underlying costs.

For example, when they stopped providing park passes at OKW, the price per point did not go down.

Conversely, the slow sales at Vero Beach caused Disney Vacation Development to incur higher carrying costs for unsold inventory and higher marketing costs, but they couldn't raise the raise the price at Vero higher than at the other DVC resorts to make up for it. (I'm not attacking Vero; it's a wonderful resort.)

If Marketing sends me free DVC Frisbee tomorrow, it won't ever cost me a dime in any way, because I don't plan to buy any more DVC points. And for people who do buy more points, the cost per point won't be adjusted to reflect the cost of buying, packing, and mailing Frisbees.

In contrast, there is a direct correlation between the operating budget (including the set management fee) and annual member dues. If everyone checking in gets at a DVC resort get a Frisbee as a welcome gift, paid for out of the operating budget, then our dues per point will go up based on the cost of those Frisbees at each resort, divided by the total number of points at the resort.
I understand what you are saying, and don't really disagree.
My point is that our initial cost included a percentage that would be ear-marked for marketing & promotions. Exactly what promotions? Who knows, but yes, if DVC never had any sort of marketing, you and I would have paid less for our initial investment.

tvwalsh
03-26-2003, 07:43 PM
Without the promotion we would not have bought. True enough but are people dumber today? With more perks and better promotion more people would be buying and at higher prices. Disney and the DVC are penny wise and pound foolish.

Regina
03-26-2003, 08:08 PM
tvwalsh, with all due respect, DVC has not had any problems selling their onsite resorts at ever-increasing prices.

While the perks were nice, they weren't what motivated us to join. We saw an opportunity for our family of 5 to enjoy deluxe accommodations for our Disney visits.

GAIL HAYDEN
03-26-2003, 10:30 PM
Disney and the DVC are penny wise and pound foolish.

Yep, and Penny Wise and Pound Foolish are laughing all the way to the bank. If you are upset with your purchase, resell it.
70,000 + members would argue with that judgement. I, for one, would definitely do that. I would have purchased regardless of the perqs offered, because it was Disney, and, if you need further proof of my statement, look it up in the USA Today archives. I am there. Hightlighted, interviewed with pictures to prove it.

Sammie
03-26-2003, 11:36 PM
I bet you gas was cheaper then, too.

Did you walk to school back then too, in the ole days that is, :)

GAIL HAYDEN
03-26-2003, 11:48 PM
Did you walk to school back then too, in the ole days that is,


Sure did, uphill both ways, barefoot, in the snow, all year around, ate my shredded wheat with water on it (and damn glad to have it) and I do miss the good ole days. :)

Werner Weiss
03-27-2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by tvwalsh
Without the promotion we would not have bought. True enough but are people dumber today? With more perks and better promotion more people would be buying and at higher prices. Disney and the DVC are penny wise and pound foolish.
I'm not sure which promotion you mean. If you mean the free park passes until 12/31/1999, then I agree that the value of those passes was a significant input when I did the math. I doubt I would have bought in 1994 if the park passes hadn't been part of the deal.

But my math also assumed that dues would go up far more than they actually did. By now, people who are considering DVC can see that the resorts have been well run and that dues have been kept under control. (They've always been higher than at most other timeshares, but increases over the years have been modest.)

And yes, that's meant a few cutbacks (such as eliminating coasters and other condo items that "walked away" too often). But that saves us money.

OKW still looks great. It's been maintained properly. I'm sorry that some DIS participants have checked into poorly cleaned rooms, but we've never had that problem.

DVC has turned out to be a better purchase than I expected. I would never have guessed that a decade later, if I wanted to, I could sell my DVC points for more than I paid. I wish I could say the same about the stocks I purchased around the same time.

sgtdisney
03-27-2003, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by GAIL HAYDEN
I would have purchased regardless of the perqs offered, because it was Disney, and, if you need further proof of my statement, look it up in the USA Today archives. I am there. Hightlighted, interviewed with pictures to prove it.

Gail, I always knew you were a DIS boards celebrity, ;) but didn't you know were featured in a national newspaper. Pretty cool!

GAIL HAYDEN
03-27-2003, 02:01 AM
Gail, I always knew you were a DIS boards celebrity, but didn't you know were featured in a national newspaper. Pretty cool!

Thanks, but, it happen back in the Prodigy days. 1992 in fact.

Regina
03-27-2003, 07:48 AM
DVC has turned out to be a better purchase than I expected. I would never have guessed that a decade later, if I wanted to, I could sell my DVC points for more than I paid. I wish I could say the same about the stocks I purchased around the same time.

Werner, I share your sentiments.:D

iluvdisney
03-27-2003, 08:43 AM
DVC better in the old days - yes, I agree in a way - I do miss the perks we had back then - but I am always looking forward to something new in DVC too. I do have to say that I considered the Member Cruise to be quite a perk - we were treated very well on that cruise and I felt like I was part of such an elite group! I am looking forward to what kind of surprises DVC may have in store for us members in the future. I cherish all of my DVC memories and am looking forward to years of many, many more!

Johnnie Fedora
03-27-2003, 09:18 AM
Other than enjoying the deluxe accomodations we purchased, I don't feel that Disney offers DVCers anything special in the way of "perks". The member cruise was an example of paying for perks through by accepting a higher point cost than comparable cruises in the same season. Can anyone say that DVCers today get any perks not given to other groups AAA, Disney club, etc.

I can't think of any.:confused: although I'd like to see one (park pass).

sgtdisney
03-27-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by GAIL HAYDEN
Thanks, but, it happen back in the Prodigy days. 1992 in fact.

Ah yes, the Prodigy days, I remember them well. Hard to beleive that was over 10 years ago isn't it?

GAIL HAYDEN
03-27-2003, 09:43 AM
Ah yes, the Prodigy days, I remember them well. Hard to beleive that was over 10 years ago isn't it?

Yes, it sure is. I miss it in some ways.

tvwalsh
03-27-2003, 11:02 AM
There are several good things about DVC today. One I can think of is the dedicated (OKW only) buses. Does anyone remember the "tours" of the tree houses? Free valet parking was not available and the resorts at which it is available did not exist. Free parking is, of course, available at more parks simply because there are more parks. Any other thoughts?

sgtdisney
03-27-2003, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by tvwalsh
There are several good things about DVC today. One I can think of is the dedicated (OKW only) buses. Does anyone remember the "tours" of the tree houses? Free valet parking was not available and the resorts at which it is available did not exist. Free parking is, of course, available at more parks simply because there are more parks. Any other thoughts?

That is a good way to look at it.. However those perks don't really do anything for me.. I never take the WDW transportation from OKW.. I do not use Valet Parking if I can help it, and I have yet to stay anywhere other then OKW.. More parks is a plus though :)

Noelle
03-30-2003, 11:54 AM
We just recently bought into DVC. We knew the primary draw was the ability to stay at Beach Club for the next 30 years. But I have to say that the 10% discount at the Disney Store was another "perk" that helped push the scales in favor of buying. Now that Disney Club is ending, I really enjoy the 10% discount I've had all these years with either Magic Kingdom Club or Disney Club. I recently used my DVC card for the first time to recieve the discount at my local Disney Store. I'll say it wasn't a smooth transaction to say the least. Now I wonder how long I'll actually be able to use this perk! :(

Oh well, maybe the thought that in 10 years these will be the good old days is more true than I'd like to think!

WOW
03-30-2003, 12:13 PM
We purchased back in 93 and the main reason we did it was the free passes until 12/31/1999. We were scared and it was a lot of money at the time, but fortunately we have been able to add on several times. When we bought the minimum was 210 points.

On our first visit there as DVC Members, I remember that the nickname for OKW was the Geriatric resort and that kind of scared us. The reason was that younger people could not afford DVC. Happily that has disappeared as we all know. The place is filled with younger people and their children.

We are so happy with DVC:) :)

KNWVIKING
03-30-2003, 02:56 PM
In 97 we stayed at PO. When we would return to the resort at nite, there were cookie carts in the lobby with fresh cookies,hot coco and warm apple cidar,( this was in Dec). We bought into OKW during that trip & returned to OKW the following year. We thought the cookie carts would be at OKW for Christmas also-but weren't. We decided to head over to PO to sneak a few cookies- none there either. Apparently the cookie cart was part of the 25th aniversary celebration. That one little perk was such a great piece of magic for us I'd be willing to pay a few bucks more in dues to bring it back to the DVC resorts. I know all perks have a cost, but they sure feel free when your enjoying them.

geffric
03-30-2003, 07:48 PM
We bought in 96 and remember the" goodies" especially the park passes, saved us BIG BUCKS... It has been fun to think about the past perks..but I am so very happy, our investment has made money, (had I known that then I would have bought more points) and my children have "grown up at Disney." When we first bought my sons were 3 and 5, we just went last week and my soon to be 12 year old wasn't sure if it was "cool" to hug Mickey anymore.... To see the look on my family's face is priceless everytime we are at OKW is precious..

tvwalsh
03-30-2003, 07:57 PM
Two weeks is wonderful if you have a two bedroom otherwise " You are a better man than I, Gunga Din!"

Jeanne
03-30-2003, 11:08 PM
I do miss the perks of the good old days as well. But having just returned from a week at OKW on Friday, I miss several new "gone by the wayside" or "÷ur way of keeping dues down" perks, such as not a pen to be found near a phone, nor was there a sheet no less a pad of note paper near any phone, just the phone charges card (at Animal Kingdom Lodge there was a pad of paper at the back of the very same charges list) no magazines, no call to invite me to the member meeting, but we did get the early morning housekeeping interuption on check out day. See it is good to know that some things remain the same. I did mention to the manager that every time I have had a comment about changes the reply has been "we surveyed the members...", so he didn't go that route, just said it was a dues saving measure. It is getting to the point where I am not feeling quite so special being a member. If I have a problem at another resort, where I am paying cash, management has always gone above and beyond to keep me happy. Still glad I am a member, just miss some of the smaller perks.

spiceycat
03-31-2003, 07:56 AM
hey we got the invite to the member meeting call - so I don't know why you were missed.

What I miss is the books - back in 93 and 94 OKW has these very nice books that showed you what was in your villa and how to use it. Some people decided these were souvenirs and took them - despite the books plainly stated that these were not souvenirs and please leave them where you found them for the next guest. Now if you need to call housekeeping or maintence if you can't remember - these books were very detailed - on how to work the VCR (to record not just to play) and everything. We never took them and I have yet to find anyone who did. But I can see if people were taking them that they would be very expensive to replace on a regular basis.

KNWVIKING
03-31-2003, 09:01 AM
I manage a service dept at a GMC dealership. The techs have their own tools but the shop also supplies hundreds of specialty tools. Several times a year, probably around 2 am on Sundays, a nasty tool fairy comes in and breaks or steals tools. That can be the only explanation cause if you ask the techs, the tool was clean, working properly, and put back in the proper bin. I guess DVC has its own nasty fairy's.

SamS
03-31-2003, 10:58 AM
I'd be interested in reading the USA Today article. I tried to find it in their archives (did a search for DVC), but came up empty. Do you know the date or title of the article by any chance?

tvwalsh
02-19-2007, 03:06 PM
Ah, the good old days. I think several thing have changed in the DVC, and not necessarily for the better since this post in 2003.

RAD
02-19-2007, 03:15 PM
Don't forget the peach colored towels, the placemats, the napkins or the coasters..... ;)


Or salt and pepper shakers. Just like the rest of WDW, just keep cutting back on the little things that helped make it special and we'll end up with a Six Flags with a mouse.

gtrist4life
02-20-2007, 12:29 AM
What a great thread. Very cool to see people's thought's from 4 years ago. That's when I joined.

What's interesting is that I think between then and now, Jim Lewis has addressed bringing a little of the good ole' days back (giclee, seasonal weekly member events) and our list of DVC resort options has grown with SSR and within a couple of years, AKV. It really is a balance on running a profitable business and keeping the reputation and quality to a level that keeps people buying.
It would have been nice to have the perks of the first owners, but no complaints at all about my ownership.

Peace,
G4L

jimmytammy
02-20-2007, 06:47 AM
Im just glad there were some "good ol days", otherwise us newer folks wouldnt be creating our own now.

So hats off to all you "ol timers" (No disrespect intended). I am truly glad you folks who bought in early had the foresight to do so. We might not have any of this to enjoy today. So thanks!

DisDaydreamer
02-20-2007, 06:55 AM
Ah, the good old days. I think several thing have changed in the DVC, and not necessarily for the better since this post in 2003.

This must have been near your first post.

In 1998 on our first DVC visit to BWV, the computer system was down and we couldn't get room key at 4 pm... so they gave use 4 park-hopper passes for our entire stay. We were happy :)

sgtdisney
02-20-2007, 10:50 AM
Ah yes, an oldie but a goody. Re-reading this makes me remember, again, all the cool things that have gone by the wayside. I still enjoy the membership immensely. Hard for me to fathom sometimes that we have been members for almost 15 years now.

spiceycat
02-20-2007, 11:20 AM
Hard for me to fathom sometimes that we have been members for almost 15 years now.

now that is scarily..... we are getting older.:rolleyes1 :sad2: :eek:

corpcomp
02-20-2007, 03:54 PM
Forget the salt & pepper shakers, parking, napkins - just give me the old airline and car rental rates again!!! :rolleyes1

Pluto4Pres
02-20-2007, 06:58 PM
I joined back in 1992. In those days, every week, there was a free member meal outside with shrimp and steak. If your room was not ready on time you were likely to be given a free meal for your entire party at any WDW restaurant of your choice. (I was given these twice, both times the room was ready by five.) Any occasion caused there to be cookies and snacks put out in Papa's Den. We got more towels. The rooms were cleaner. We did not pay for extra soap or coffee. We could swim at any WDW resort. You could get a free sundae any time of day. DVC vans would take you anywhere you wanted to go for free if you asked. We were sent numerous little gifts and perks. We, of course, got into the parks for free untill 2000. A fruit basket or such was sent if a birthday or anniversary was mentioned to the staff. We got Xmas cards that were pretty and personal. I could go on but it hurts too much!

We joined in 1992. I vaguely remember the cookies and an occasional cocktail get-together at the Commodore House, but no steak and shrimp:confused3 I got ripped off!:mad: I want my money back!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

tvwalsh
02-20-2007, 07:14 PM
We joined in 1992. I vaguely remember the cookies and an occasional cocktail get-together at the Commodore House, but no steak and shrimp:confused3 I got ripped off!:mad: I want my money back!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

These meals were in back of Olivias in the area outside where the addition was added on to Olivias many years ago. The steak and shrimp meal was on sticks (shish kabob) and was not really a sit down type meal. It was every week though for quite a while. I do not remember the day of the week.

DebbieB
02-20-2007, 07:48 PM
now that is scarily..... we are getting older.:rolleyes1 :sad2: :eek:

I know, it hit me the other day I've been a member 7 1/2 years! Seems like yesterday!

Those who bought OKW at the beginning really made out. But I did too, I bought BWV at $65, $59 if you counted the magical beginnings credit.

jade1
02-20-2007, 08:12 PM
Im just glad there were some "good ol days", otherwise us newer folks wouldnt be creating our own now.

So hats off to all you "ol timers" (No disrespect intended). I am truly glad you folks who bought in early had the foresight to do so. We might not have any of this to enjoy today. So thanks!

Agreed, if losing those early freebies resulted in BCV/VWL I'll take it.:thumbsup2

NYMomof4
02-21-2007, 01:47 AM
I missed the old days, but when I bought in 2005, I was happy to think that there would be more DVC resorts in the future (nobody promised that but it was mentioned as a possibility). Now, with point costs rising, I am glad that I am a part of DVC already. What I may not have realized is the add-on-itis that comes with ownership.

I thought that the SUmmer Block Party was cool last August and I'd love to see these type of DVC events, even on a smaller scale, continue. Oh, and a happy hour at the pool bar :):wizard: