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RweTHEREyet
03-21-2003, 12:16 PM
I just talked to a CM in the reservations located in Tampa. We had a nice long conversation, learned his life story, and during the conversation he shared that yesterday they flashed on their screens in CRO that the Magic Kingdom was at capacity. I find that very impressive.

lodgelady
03-21-2003, 12:59 PM
That's great news! Thanks! :)

mjstaceyuofm
03-21-2003, 01:26 PM
Great for the long term, IF it keeps up, but most likely because of the recent cuts, being at capacity for the masses down there most likely is unbearable.

Anyone have any reports?

KNWVIKING
03-21-2003, 01:26 PM
but glad I wasn't there.

RweTHEREyet
03-21-2003, 01:32 PM
I am glad I wasn't there too, but I am just impressed that current "world events" have not caused a lot of people to cancel their plans. I was concerend about going to WDW earlier this month, and probably would have been very concerned if my trip were scheduled during the time that the 48 hour ultimatum was given by President Bush.

On the flipside, going to WDW is the best medicine for all my worries, and maybe a lot of other people felt that same way too.

WDSearcher
03-21-2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by RweTHEREyet
I am glad I wasn't there too, but I am just impressed that current "world events" have not caused a lot of people to cancel their plans.
I think people are actually coming to WDW in defiance now. That whole "no bleep-ing terrorist is going to keep me from MY vacation!" thing. In droves ... just to prove that they can.

I'm envisioning a whole new psychological condition. Vacation rage. Vented against people who are telling you that it's not safe to be at your favorite theme park.

Yikes! :eek:

All Aboard
03-21-2003, 01:57 PM
Sorry, but you knew this was coming from me...

MK at capacity on a day that the park shuts down at 8 can't generate a great deal of customer satisfaction. I know I'm a broken record, but I really wonder if WDW hasn't gone overkill on the park hours reductions.

cindyfan
03-21-2003, 02:03 PM
IMHO.........Good and Bad news.....
Glad to see that people are going!!!!:)
Could be that Thurs is EE for MK PLUS since the the park hours have been cut.....MK closing at 8pm.....more people are making sure they get there early enough so as to get their moneys worth.
But......I agree with gcurling.....
MK at capacity on a day that the park shuts down at 8 can't generate a great deal of customer satisfaction. I know I'm a broken record, but I really wonder if WDW hasn't gone overkill on the park hours reductions.
Now....I am really concerned about the week after Easter!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

mjstaceyuofm
03-21-2003, 02:03 PM
gcurling: BINGO!

hopemax
03-21-2003, 02:09 PM
Well, cindyfan, if the hours WDW is currently showing for the week after Easter are accurate, you might be okay. The 22nd is showing "unavailable" but the 23rd is 10PM and the 24th is 11PM.

I fear for the people at the MK over Easter weekend. Friday, Saturday and Sunday are all showing the MK closing at 8PM! Normally, you would expect the park to close at either 11 or 12.

I really hope the website just has bad information.

The Princess
03-21-2003, 02:28 PM
Thats good! Infact I just noticed that the Disney stock was up too!! Maybe things are looking up. (lets hope)

BRERALEX
03-21-2003, 02:37 PM
SO please some one inform me there must be two different at capacity right? or am i reading this wrong? I was there for the millinium new years eve in the MK and i thought that was at capacity as it can get. yesterday was just a regular day....there were that many people there as say july 4th or some other major hoildays?

hopemax
03-21-2003, 03:23 PM
If so, any info on whether Disney is expanding hours based upon demand?

When I looked at the website last week, the 19th-21st were 9-7, and the 22nd was 9-8. Today, it's showing 9-8, 9-9 for Sat. So yes, they are expanding hours, but is it enough to adequately meet the demand?

Is Safari Steve or any other MK CM around? Is the MK really that busy?

Ah, Orlando Sentinel
article (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/tourism/orl-biztourism21032103mar21,0,6929709.story?coll=orl%2 Dbusiness%2Dheadlines)

ToddS
03-21-2003, 03:58 PM
hopemax said:I fear for the people at the MK over Easter weekend. Friday, Saturday and Sunday are all showing the MK closing at 8PM! Normally, you would expect the park to close at either 11 or 12.

As far as I can tell, the official WDW site shows MK closing 10pm, 10pm, 11pm over Easter weekend (April 18, 19, 20), as it has, I think, since April hours appeared on the site a few weeks ago. Am I looking in the wrong place? I'm concerned, because I will be there then, and I don't like the sound of those 8pm closings!

hopemax
03-21-2003, 04:06 PM
They've updated the hours since about 2 hours ago. I had to go to the site to pull those hours for cindyfan. The 8PM closings were showing for the last couple days, there was a thread about it over on the theme parks board.

But now they are showing late closings for the week before Easter up to the Thursday after. They're even have 2 Spectro's scheduled. So at least today Easter visitors can feel comforted, next week might be a different story :) "As the Park Hours Change"

Dznefreek
03-21-2003, 04:09 PM
yesterday was just a regular day....there were that many people there as say july 4th or some other major hoildays? I think you are correct, "capacity" is probably determined by historical trends in attendance.

New Years Eve for instance you would find a full parking lot. I doubt that was the case yesterday.

Let's say 3/20/?? traditionally has 12k guests and yesterday it rose to 18k. That is more than the traditional attendance and more than the historical labor needs can handle. Therefore "capacity."

Safari Steve
03-21-2003, 04:56 PM
A large portion of the parking lot was used yesterday, and crowds have been healthy all week, but we have not reached capacity. Niether the park nor the parking lot filled up.

BRERALEX
03-21-2003, 07:06 PM
thanks Safari Steve and Dznefreek for clearing most of that up for me. It boggled my mind that it could have been that full yesterday just a regualr day but Let's say 3/20/?? traditionally has 12k guests and yesterday it rose to 18k. That is more than the traditional attendance and more than the historical labor needs can handle. Therefore "capacity." makes more sense.

cindyfan
03-21-2003, 07:22 PM
Okay, that's better.....Someone was playing games with the hours for April and had everyone in a panic!!:eek:
Although I am still concerned about the latter part of our stay with the hours being cut.
But we will still have a great time!!!

Thanks Steve.....when I read they were at capacity.....I was really wondering!!:eek:
Let's say 3/20/?? traditionally has 12k guests and yesterday it rose to 18k. That is more than the traditional attendance and more than the historical labor needs can handle. Therefore "capacity."
so what you mean is that they didn't have enough CM in the park to handle the amount of people:confused:
That is just as scary!!!
At least when they plan for heavy crowds they have enough CM working. It sounds like they didn't.:eek:

RweTHEREyet
03-22-2003, 08:03 AM
O.K. showing my ignorance, I would have thought it meant you can't fit another baby stoller or sweaty body into the MK. Guess it makes sense that it would mean not more than they can handle with the CM's that are working.

I also assumed that it meant no more people other than Resort guests permitted to enter, would that be right?

Safari Steve
03-22-2003, 08:23 AM
No, we had no admission restrictions at all. Mansion, Pirates and It's a Small World had waits of 15 minutes, Jungle Cruise was around 25 (not all day, of course, but when I checked, about mid-afternoon).

MHopkins2
03-22-2003, 10:56 AM
I just got back from the World last Saturday, and while Epcot, Studios, and AK were low-season-ish, Magic Kingdom was relatively a mob scene. (Monday, March 10th) Small World had over a 30 minute wait seemingly all day - I'm one of those weirdos who likes that attraction, so I checked it morning, noon-ish, and afternoon. Despite only seeing three attractions, I had a good day because the characters were out in force, but it was MUCH busier than I'd anticipated.

ToddS
03-24-2003, 10:16 AM
I was at MK that same day, MHopkins, (Mon. 3/10) and while other WDW parks may have been NaHTaZu that day, I can confirm that MK definitely was! ;)

Planogirl
03-24-2003, 12:06 PM
We were at WDW last week and while MK was busy, it never seemed at capacity levels. If it was, I was all ready to fuss about Carousel of Progress never opening. :)

The sad thing was how quiet Epcot was each time we went. Except for Test Track, the pavilions were all very quiet.

EMT-319
03-28-2003, 10:14 PM
We were at the park on 3/20.

Arrived around 11 am after a mad dash from Port Canaveral (just disembarked from the Wonder). Yes, MK was very crowded, but not as full as it was when we were there in August of '01.

Without FastPass, the wait at Splash Mountain was about 70 minutes. The park seemed to thin out around 5 pm. The wait at the Haunted Mansion was 10 minutes at 5:30 pm.

Again, the Carousel Of Progress was not open.:mad:

Orlando set a new temperature record of 91 degrees on 3/20. The humidity did not seem to be that high, and there was a nice breeze.