What happened to Aaron and Helene??

[wdwnutze]

I just got home from work and I missed the special about Aaron and Helene. Can someone give me the highlights about what happened with them? She seemed very upset on the previews and he seemed a little put off. Sometimes I hate working at night cause I miss the good stuff!

[MaryAnnDVC]

We taped it and just finished watching it.

Aaron and Helene both told their sides of the story, and they were somewhat different versions (aren't they always). They had gone on a trip to Toronto before the end of the season airing the series, and Helene claimed that she caught Aaron making eyes at another woman. Aaron claims that there was a couple making out and he had just made some comments about them. Aaron and Helene ended up having a big fight...up all night...she gave him the ring back.

Then at a later date they had gone to his lake home in Oklahoma (is that where?) and she said he just kept the ring on the night table without bringing up the subject to her about their engagement; he says that she was the one who gave it back, so he was waiting for her to bring it up. Eventually, she got the ring back (don't remember how).

Then he went to see her in NJ, and according to Helene, they had a great weekend, but an hour before she was taking him back to the airport, he told her that he had lost feelings for her. It was very upsetting to her because it didn't give her time to get any real answers and she felt whatever answers he did give were PC.

He said that they were very far apart in their opinions about things. One thing that really irked me was that he frequently commented how unfortunate the breakup was because she's a very beautiful woman, and not that it was unfortunate because he had had genuine feelings for her. I think he was way too focused on looks and I think he came off as very insincere. He did sound frustrated and annoyed that he apparently was forever having to answer to her requests for reassurance.

She said that she couldn't turn off her feelings toward him like he could toward her...he seemed very offended by that. He claims that he was the one that was very forthcoming with feelings in the beginning, and she wasn't, and that they had totally changed direction. He also said that he didn't see them ever having contact again...I'm sure that was very hurtful towards Helene...I felt very bad for her.

I have a very different opinion of Aaron than I had during the show. When they had that reunion show with all those women, he seemed intent on getting a little revenge with comments about women who had insulted him, and I felt that he had done the same with Helene because she was placing the blame on him for the breakup of the relationship...he seemed very smirky about the fact that he didn't see them ever having contact again.

That's about it...I think.

[asamgp]

;) Great job MaryAnn! I never could have put it like that.!!!! You summed it up...

My only opinion - and you made it too- Aaron did not say anything about Helene the person. Only Helene the beautiful. He appears to have never loved her. And his feelings appeared to have not been genuine at all!

I really need to lay off the reality shows! I am hurt by the break up.

That being said, I will be watching the Joe Millionaire on Mondaywhen they interview Zora and Evan

[allicat]

I thought the same thing about how Aaron kept commenting on her "beauty" not what kind of person she was.
Aaron came off insincere and I agree with Maryanne's posting that he seemed "smirky". Almost arrogant, like too bad for her!

[wdwnutze]

Thank you so much for the update! I knew someone on the boards would watch and be able to fill me in. I got the feeling from the previews that Aaron was a little more arogant than he was during the series. I wonder if he'll try to find Brooke now?

[Michelle]

Aaron came off as a TOTAL jerk. He absolutely cared nothing for Helene, that's obvious, only cared about how she looked. She should thank her lucky stars she isn't marrying him.

I'm no fan of Helene but of the two she definitely comes off as the more credible and sincere.

[disneychrista]

OMGosh! What a jerk. I only caught the last 15 mins (with Survivor, on I forgot to set the VCR) of the interview with Aaron but that was plenty. The only thing I got out of it is that he was "in love" with how Helene looked and nothing else. I mean he couldn't believe with how gorgeous Helene is that he wouldn't be able to make up with her. :confused: :confused:

[tiggerlover]

Thanks for the low down. I loved watching this Bachelor and I am sad to hear what a jerk he really is, especially when all along I thought he was a catch. I doubt the program will air over here so it is nice to have this connection. Thanks.

:bounce::wave::bounce:

[Jeff in BigD]

It's been rumored that he's been seeing Sandra Bullock.

[snoopy]

Jeff, please tell me you are kidding. That guy's 15 minutes should have been long over.

I was never crazy about Aaron from the beginning, but after last night, I have absolutely no use for him. His arrogance was clearly in evidence last night, and I found myself screaming at the TV (LOL!). I get too wrapped up in these shows, heh heh.

[Jeff in BigD]

Originally posted by snoopy
Jeff, please tell me you are kidding. That guy's 15 minutes should have been long over.
I wish I could. Sorta makes you long for the days of Colby from Survivor, huh? ;)

[Jeafl]

I too was very disappointed in Aaron. I lost track of how many times he said she was beautiful. Not once did he say anything about the kind of person she was. Also, did you notice that he never answered her question of why he had told her he loved her every day and then one day said he had no feelings for her? I felt bad for Helene. Obviously she wanted to work on their problems and he no longer had any use for her.

Perhaps Trista and Ryan will have better luck.

[Pembo]

I too was very disappointed in Aaron. He looked like a real Jerk last night. I felt very bad for Helene. During The Bachelor she said she had been hurt in the past and this jerk hurt in front of all of America.

What did you think about Ryan & Trista???? The way she changes her voice just downright annoys me!

[Dan Murphy]

Who is Aaron? Which show was he a winner on?? http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/fragend/confused-smiley-016.gif Really, he is a jerk? Oh maaaaaaannnnnnnnn!!!!!! http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-018.gif

[Nikki W]

Originally posted by Jeff in BigD
I wish I could. Sorta makes you long for the days of Colby from Survivor, huh? ;)

oooh....Colby!!!

I always thought Aaron would turn out to be a jerk. He looks like he can be very mean and nasty. Good riddance!

Maybe Helene will get picked for the next Bachelorette! But, sigh, Ryan's already taken.

http://i.abctv.com/@v=0599289@/primetime/bachelorette/images/bios/bacht_biopic_ryan.jpg

[Liz]

I never watched the Bachelor with Aaron but watched the show last night to see Trista & Ryan. He truly seems like a jerk. Helene is obviously hurt but when the hurt goes away she'll hopefully realize how much better she is without him.

Run, Sandra, run!!!

[disneychrista]

Originally posted by Pembo
What did you think about Ryan & Trista???? The way she changes her voice just downright annoys me!

IMO, the Ryan and Trista "we are so in love" looked forced to me (last night). I hate to say it because I thought Trista should have been choosen on the first show but she just seems fake to me. Being that she lives in LA LA Land maybe should should look into a becoming an actress.

And I could not agree more with the voice thing. I am still not sure what she really sounds like.

[Buckalew]

My take on their interview last night was a bit different.
Yes, he seemed to only be able to talk about how beautiful she was. So what? She doesn't care that he thinks she is beautiful--her heart was broken.

But besides that, I just feel like there was alot of pressure between the ending of the show and when they could really be together. I feel sure that for Helene to have watched the show and see him with the other girls was a lot to bear.

The incident in Toronto seemed like a big misunderstanding (whose story was true I don't know). I think it was premature for her to return the ring to him at that moment. Of course, it was obvious that it was TOO soon for them to even have the ring in the first place! The incident in OK seemed like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation to me also. Having had given my DH his engagement ring back to him (twice :eek: ), I remember the egg shellls he walked on to try to know when to ask again. I understood his thoughts of "not putting her on the spot" & could see that she wanted to be asked all over again--not wanting to just see the ring & silently slip it on that weekend.

They may be all wrong for each other but I don't think they have really had a fair chance to find out either. He did seem to fall for her much more freely than she for him. She seemed to either play hard to get or maybe had been hurt in the past and was just protecting her heart. Either way, she needed a lot of assurance that she was the one, the only one. He seemed like the kind who feels like"look I told you once I loved you, do I have to say it everyday?!" LOL I didn't come away thinking he was a jerk. Maybe they are wrong for each other, maybe not. But it seems they will not have the chance to find out. It was hard to watch her hurting so badly. :(

[suzannen]

Did it annoy anyone else when Aaron sort of made a remark about liking it when Helene played "hard to get" on the show? Is that his problem, that she actually believed she was engaged and no longer played that game, so he was no longer interested?

[Liz]

Suzannen, I thought that too about the playing hard to get comment.

[sharbear]

I thought that they both looked bad. If I got mad everytime my DH didn't answer me or didn't pay attention to my every word I would have been divorced long ago.

I really don't like Helene, she drove me crazy when she knew that if she was with Aaron that she would have to move to where he lives. She works in a school, he works in the family business and he can't move. They talked about this a lot in the show. Then after the show she said she hoped that Aaron would move to Jersey. What!!! I thought that she was selfish, she talked too much and that laugh. IMHO much worse that Trisha and that baby talk.

As everybody knows, it's really hard to have a long distance romance. If you don't see each other all the time it can lead to big misunderstandings.

Aaron was wierd also with talking about her appearance alot. But IMHO again men are much more concerned with appearance that women. I think that if he had to do it over again he would have changed what he said. But she sounded more like she wanted out of this by picking fights right from the start. Men aren't thrilled being challenged about their feelings all the time. They say something, they say what they mean, they don't want to repeat it all the time. If you give back a ring you better discuss it, not expect someone else to stroke you ego.

And that is my rant. I had to add to the Aaron bashing, I think that Helene should get some also. But Aaron made a bad choice.

[kimber79]

I don't like Helene...... I watched the Amazing Race, but it was over a week before the Bachelor so I did watch the final night, and thought sure that Aaron would pick Brooke. She I thought was a much better match for him, and so much more "down to earth and sincere" than Helene.

[disneychrista]

Originally posted by kimber79
I did watch the final night,
I too only really watched the final night (for the same reason) but I picked helene over the other girl. kinda funny.

[Liz]

Another one here who only watched the final night! I picked Helene, although I didn't really see much chemistry with either girl.

[Tuffcookie]

Another thing to think about. Helene is a high school counsellor. How would you like your daughter looking up to the likes of her?

TC:cool:

[disykat]

I could understand why Aaron thought Helene was being extremely difficult. However, I could also relate to Helene needing extra assurance. She spent several months unable to see her fiance while she watched him making out with other women on tv. It's pretty much an impossible situation to live through IMO.

[mtemm]

I just think Aaron wanted to put her/keep her on a pedestal. I think he just saw her beauty, although he did comment that he liked that she was smart, too. I think once reality set in and he realized she was human, a woman, the pedestal crumbled.

I think Helene was probably insecure about the relationship, but who wouldn't be? Watching him kiss and romance other women on tv, plus I'm sure everywhere they went women were all over him.

As for Trista and Ryan...well, I never saw the first bachelor so don't know her on that. I think Ryan is more in love with her, she is more in love with the spotlight and making up for coming in second last time. Who knows, though, right? But if they are still together 5 years from now I'll eat a plate of broccoli :p

On to Zora and Evan. I really don't see any love there. My thoughts are that he suspected getting the girl to accept him would result in something either monetary or gift-wise from the show. He picked Zora because she seemed less mercenary and had a better chance of completing it. She may have been thinking the same thing...I know I would.

JMHO

[mtemm]

As for her being a counselor, I liked Helene a lot. She wasn't someone who badmouthed others, she seemed to have integrity to me. I think she seems even tempered and intelligent. So I can't see why I'd object to her!

[Wishing on a star]

Okay, I have to go with the Aaron bashing.... Remember, the very first episode of this Bachelor, the whole episode was about how they had chosen Aaron over all the other Bachelor wanna-be's, because he was the most 'sincere'. Yeah, right! I didn't like him right from the get-go. I told DH was looking for a banker/corporate 'trophy wife'..... Somebody to keep on a shelf, but really 'beautiful' when hanging from his arm. Boy, does that ever explain the - All he could mention was how beautiful she was...

Helene's reaction on GMA this morning, after seeing his comments last night, was perfect. About HIM being sincere - she said, basicly, "Yeah, he told me several times, at least twice, on that very last night that he 'loved me', then first thing the next day, before jumping on that airplane and running, he says 'Sorry baby, I have lost feelings for you." Okayyyyyyy....

Oh yeah, also about Aaron having said no use going on being as miserable as the two of them were in the relationship - Helene said basicly - while they were showing footage of the two of them smilling, laughing, making out, etc... " Miserable??? we got along really great together! Miserable??? My family and friends also surely didn't see it that way." So, lets get this straight.... They are happy, in love, he proposes to her. then, only see each other twice, and suddenly poor Aaron is 'miserable' Okayyyyyy????

Also, remember, they have been separated for many weeks... He should have been sending her flowers, calling her every day, etc. She had mentioned how right away the phone calls just tapered off. He was already checking-out of the relationship.

I think Helene was probably pretty well justified in questioning his love and commitment.

Also, I believe that Aaron and Helene were talking about two completely different moments in that bar... When she was walking across the bar, she obviously did turn back and witness something... Not the same thing that Aaron was trying to say to cover his behind.

Also, Aaron broke up with Helene, when leaving for the airport after they got together to view the final episode when it aired. This was when all of the work, and separation, and stress, should have all disappeared. This is when they could start to spend all the time they wanted together, and start to think about their future.... And, this is when Aaron supposedly 'cuts his losses' and jumps on that plane????? Can you imagine how Helene feels, knowing he considerers her a 'Loss'. He is one huge JERK......

If Aaron considers his relationship with Helene to be a 'loss' (banker terms you know.....) and can just 'cut' her right at the time he did, without really ever giving it a chance... Well, I just call it as I see it!

[disneychrista]

Originally posted by mtemm

On to Zora and Evan. I really don't see any love there. My thoughts are that he suspected getting the girl to accept him would result in something either monetary or gift-wise from the show. He picked Zora because she seemed less mercenary and had a better chance of completing it. She may have been thinking the same thing...I know I would.


The point of Joe Millionaire was to FIND a girl that would pick him over his money. He did that. Whether or not either had an idea about winning a prize, in unknown to me. But as far as being successfull in finding a girl that he would spend the rest of his life with well, in typical fall in love on tv I don't see that happening.

[TIdoublegaER]

I wanted to watch the show with Aaron and Helene but missed it. I live a couple of hours north of Springfield, MO and he has been all over the local news here. It seems to me that all he wants is publicity to promote his new restaurant in Springfield. He mentions it every time he gets a chance! My sister lives in Springfield and she said that when the show was on, there were big signs in front of the bank where he is VP announcing "This is where The Bachelor works." He just comes accross as totally insincere to me and just in it for the publicity.