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KathyR
02-17-2003, 10:02 AM
Has anyone heard of any sold out use years at BCV???

Anyone who is in the process of buying/talking about buying, know what is available?

Reason for asking-My brother is wanting to buy August, but his guide is saying "August is sold out- we are selling September." I am telling him to push for August or even June as he wants to travel in August when his kids get in school. September would sure suck for that.

Thanks for you help!

zulaya
02-17-2003, 10:32 AM
Ask for another guide - sometimes another person is willing to tell you more than another. But it's entirely possible that those summer use years are sold out just for the reasons you spoke of, people trying to schedule summer vacations.

KathyR
02-17-2003, 11:04 AM
I called the DVC info number on the DVC sales page, and they connected me to a guide at BWV who confirmed w/me that all use years are available.

I am disappointed in my guide for basically not telling the truth to my brother about the availability of use years and pushing that Sept use year on him. I hope he can get everything straightened out to his advantage. I have told him to call her immediately to take care of it! And if she is unwilling to help he needs to change guides! I will update later when I get a call back from him.

wdwstar
02-17-2003, 11:15 AM
hi, we were just there at the dvc open house and we are in the middle stage of purchasing the vacation club, we were told that sept. is the only use year that they have for right now, we wanted march or april because we vacation in feb. or march. but sept was the only one offered to us. if you find out anything please post, because i would like to change my use year before its to late. thank you!:confused: ;)

Dean
02-17-2003, 12:23 PM
They can sell any use year available but one may not be able to use the MB. I wonder if your brother was trying to use MB, he might or might not be able to on an August use year since we're so close to the 6 month booking window.

kem330
02-17-2003, 12:28 PM
The available use year has something to do with timing of your purchase. For example when you purchase now, your use year is backed up 4-5 months so that is why sept is offered now. If they were to give you Feb, they can not give you the Feb 02 points as that useage time has finished, no way to use points that are already expired. It is to your benefit to have the use year back dated as you can take advantage of MB and either sell back the points, or bank them into the next year. I suppose if you are willing to forego the 02 points, you could change to a Feb or Mar use year, but you would be missing one years worth of points that way. Also I am sure they are holding on to some points for member add ons later in the year when it gets close to sell out.

wdwstar
02-17-2003, 12:54 PM
what you are saying does make sense, we banked our mb points before we left, because we would have had to use them by the end of feb. and just getting back, and still have to close, it would have been to late to use them. i didnt know if you change your use month you would have lost your mb. thank you for the info, we will just stay were we are except maybe increase our points before we close, dvc said we can do that, as long as we didnt get to close to closing. thank you again. cant wait to make ressie for the next trip.:) :)

Melrosgirl
02-17-2003, 03:57 PM
When I bought in December, I was offered an August or November use year. September was never even offered. Do the guides all have different years to sell?

Puffy2
02-17-2003, 04:58 PM
Off subject, but I just wanted to say "hello Kathy!" I haven't heard from you in awhile. Had a great recent trip - stayed in a BWV and now I know why you own DVC! Had a wonderful time! Hope you are well!

Noelle
02-17-2003, 05:11 PM
I agree with Dean. They've moved out of the August Use Year and onto September so people can still use Magical Beginnings. I'm sure it was a misunderstanding.

zulaya
02-17-2003, 07:11 PM
I think guides can sell anything they want. Since I wasn't up on the whole importance of Use years at the time, I just took the first use year offered to me, which was March. I pre-purchased BCV in March.

I think everyone else is right about the MB though.

karebear1
02-17-2003, 09:07 PM
We bought into BCV this January- at that time they were offering an August use year- we wanted October- it was no problem at all for us to change it to an October use year. Maybe it's harder for them to go backwards?!?!?

KathyR
02-17-2003, 11:58 PM
Update so far:

He has not gotten ahold of her yet, but I assume will in the AM.

Your MB comments may explain the problem, but she still lied saying that August was sold out! That is what I have issue with. She should have explained the situation if that was the case. When I called, the guide I spoke to (not the one in question) said w/my August use year that I needed to add on before April (my 50% banking window). So I would assume the same rules apply to new purchases.

Either way I will let you know what happens when I hear from him :)

PS. Hi Anna! Glad you had a great stay at BWV! Maybe we will be welcoming you home in the future :) We are all well. Thanks for asking! I hope you all are too :)

Dean
02-18-2003, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by KathyR
Your MB comments may explain the problem, but she still lied saying that August was sold out! That is what I have issue with. She should have explained the situation if that was the case. When I called, the guide I spoke to (not the one in question) said w/my August use year that I needed to add on before April (my 50% banking window). So I would assume the same rules apply to new purchases. I wasn't there and didn't hear the conversation. And I'm the second not to defend the guides, Rich is the first. I can see where if they were discussing MB and then an August use year the guide could say it was unavailable. That would sound like sold out to many. That would imply the 31 January banking deadline for using MB for August. That would be different for an add on as you might get away with the 31 March date (50% window). The guide would have no reason to lie that I can think of so I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.

PamOKW
02-18-2003, 09:05 AM
if they were discussing MB and then an August use year the guide could say it was unavailable. That would sound like sold out to many.

That's a very reasonable explanation. It is true that that August would be "unavailable" for MB. It's not true that an August Use Year is unavailable. The context of the whole conversation is needed. Sounds more like a misunderstanding than a lie.

KathyR
02-18-2003, 12:14 PM
Ok here is the update as promised!

Our guide just called him back. He was able to switch to August use year w/o any problems today for some reason :) , so all is good! He is using MB, and the August use year did not cause any trouble w/that. Apparantly there was some sort of misunderstanding between them the other day! He keeps changing what was said, so I think he does not even know! First he said she said sold out. Now he says maybe she said unavailable. Either way it was available. She just needed a little nudge :)

wdwstar-
If you want August, our guide said they have 1200 pts left!

erikthewise
02-18-2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by KathyR

wdwstar-
If you want August, our guide said they have 1200 pts left!

That's not very much! **If accurate**, this says that August is virtually sold out, and may not last to the end of the week. A very rough calculation says this is about 0.4% of the August points, i.e. 99.6% sold out. Even if your guide meant 12000 points, August is still close to sold out.

Simba's Mom
02-19-2003, 08:18 AM
Are you saying that the August use year is virtually sold out at BCV? If so, that makes me twice as glad that DH said "Yes" to my recent plea to purchase 100 points at BCV. I'd mentioned it a few months ago, and he said "No" in an "end of conversation" kind of way. When I heard about MB, I made a list of "Why we need 100 BCV points-NOW!", presented my list, got him on a night when he was just home from an international business trip and jet-lagged so he wasn't thinking too clearly to resist (mean, maybe, but I really wanted it to work). Now if August is almost sold out too-wait til I tell him how now I'm twice as glad!

KathyR
02-19-2003, 08:25 AM
That is the figure our guide told him when he asked her to check if August was available. If it is in fact right, then August is VERY close to being sold out!

Congrats on your add on :)

nezy
02-19-2003, 08:36 AM
Perhaps I have been going merrily along, not concerned about my use year, as it has not affected me thus far(I think!!), but can someone explain the ins and outs of "use year" importantance?

Thank you, as always for the expert info.

Melrosgirl
02-19-2003, 08:51 AM
The way I look at use year importance is this:

My use year is August. I like that month because I would never travel in the two months prior to my use year anyway (too hot!). Normally if you book, for example, a trip using points a month before your use year month and you have to cancel, you must be able to travel before your use year comes up or you will forfeit those points. Does that make sense? Because I know I most likely would not travel in July, for example, I don't need to worry about it so much. If you always book in July though and your use year is August, and something came up and you had to cancel your trip...if you did not use those points before August, you'd lose them all.

That's how I look at use year. To me that's the only importance of it.

I hope that helps! I'm terrible at explaining things :)

Originally posted by nezy
Perhaps I have been going merrily along, not concerned about my use year, as it has not affected me thus far(I think!!), but can someone explain the ins and outs of "use year" importantance?

Thank you, as always for the expert info.

KathyR
02-19-2003, 08:55 AM
Hi nezy!
The importance of use year only plays a role in the event you have to cancel a trip. For example:
If you have a Sept use year and have a trip booked in August, but end up having to cancel a few months before your trip for whatever reason the points must be used by the end of August or they are lost; because, Sept 1 is when your use year switches to the following one. While if you had an August use year, you would have until the following July 31st to use them. Giving you plenty of time to reschedule your trip, or bank them according to the guidelines.

This shows the importance a particular use year can play! It is best if you know when you want to travel to get a use year in the same month you want to travel or just before you want to travel.

pauld2
02-19-2003, 09:46 AM
He is saying September is the month they are selling right now. I asked him if the month matters, because I intend to travel in March, and he said "doesn't matter at all". I am a bit skeptical on this point. I think I understand the cancellation implications from a previous post, but are there any booking implications ? Note that I intending on using DVC on an every other year basis.

Of interest, still offering $10 MB for BCV. Said other Orlando Disney properties were not available.

Terry S
02-19-2003, 10:29 AM
pauld2.. There is no difference at all in use years when it comes to making a reservation.

If I were you and I really wanted something different, I would be insistant.

The problem is assuming that your vacation habits won't change over the next 39 years.

Dean
02-19-2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Terry S
pauld2.. There is no difference at all in use years when it comes to making a reservation.

If I were you and I really wanted something different, I would be insistant.

The problem is assuming that your vacation habits won't change over the next 39 years. In a way yes and a way no. There IS a difference in how you use your points and which points (current, banked, borrowed) you will use based on use year. If you have a December use year and are making Nov ressies, you have 2 potential problems. You might have to borrow points and all points will be at risk for losing them if you have to cancel late even if it's outside the 30 day window.

OTOH, if you wanted to schedule December, you'd need to either bank, use THEN current years points or borrow. Those are potentially much different transactions with different risk levels.