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kcashner
10-22-2012, 06:23 PM
Just got a post stating that the DCL policy re military rates have changed. The rates are now available to military OR spouse, so that if military member is deployed, spouse can cruise! In the past, the military person HAD to be on the ship. No longer. Up to 3 staterooms can be booked, qualifying military person OR spouse must be on the cruise.

sissy_ib
10-22-2012, 06:32 PM
Just got a post stating that the DCL policy re military rates have changed. The rates are now available to military OR spouse, so that if military member is deployed, spouse can cruise! In the past, the military person HAD to be on the ship. No longer. Up to 3 staterooms can be booked, qualifying military person OR spouse must be on the cruise.

YES!!!! :yay::yay:

The chances of me cruising without DH are small, but they are there. Thank you for sharing this happy news!

sinnika
10-22-2012, 06:42 PM
Just got a post stating that the DCL policy re military rates have changed. The rates are now available to military OR spouse, so that if military member is deployed, spouse can cruise! In the past, the military person HAD to be on the ship. No longer. Up to 3 staterooms can be booked, qualifying military person OR spouse must be on the cruise.

What if they are retired? DH is retired military but has a private practice so can't cruise as readily as I can! :)

bahacca
10-22-2012, 06:57 PM
I'm not military, but am grateful to all of those who served(have served). I am happy to see that Disney realizes that families still need vacations even if a loved one is deployed.:thumbsup2

DisneyOHFan
10-22-2012, 07:00 PM
I'm not military, but am grateful to all of those who served(have served). I am happy to see that Disney realizes that families still need vacations even if a loved one is deployed.:thumbsup2

I 2nd that!

collectoraholic
10-22-2012, 07:01 PM
I'm not military, but am grateful to all of those who served(have served). I am happy to see that Disney realizes that families still need vacations even if a loved one is deployed.:thumbsup2

I agree! :thumbsup2

To all the military personnel & their families, I thank you for your service. :goodvibes

Woodmnky
10-22-2012, 07:04 PM
I'm not military, but am grateful to all of those who served(have served). I am happy to see that Disney realizes that families still need vacations even if a loved one is deployed.:thumbsup2
I completely agree with this as well.

I would like to see Disney open their rates up to disabled veterans as well. It is a shame that many people have suffered injuries as a result of their military service (and thus are no longer in the military), but are not offered the same priviledges as those currently serving.

erionm
10-22-2012, 07:16 PM
What if they are retired? DH is retired military but has a private practice so can't cruise as readily as I can! :)

From DisneyCruise.com:
Special Military rates are available to all retired and active U.S. Military personnel (or spouse), including U.S. Air Force, U.S. Army, U.S. Marines, U.S Navy, U.S. Coast Guard, U.S. National Guard, U.S. Army Reserve and U.S. Department of Defense personnel. Active and retired members (or spouse) of the U.S. military must provide valid identification at time of check-in. This offer is limited to a maximum of 3 staterooms per military member (or spouse), per sailing. A U.S. Military service member (or spouse) is required to sail to take advantage of this offer. Activated members (or spouse) of the U.S. National Guard or the U.S. Army Reserve must also show active duty orders (active duty papers must be dated as of January 1st of the previous year to qualify).
http://disneycruise.disney.go.com/special-offers/military-rates/

bkjewett
10-22-2012, 07:45 PM
This is great! My husband is returning from Afghanistan this week and we are taking the kids on the fantasy to celebrate next month. Next time he deploys I may consider just taking the kids!

keishashadow
10-22-2012, 07:49 PM
I completely agree with this as well.

I would like to see Disney open their rates up to disabled veterans as well. It is a shame that many people have suffered injuries as a result of their military service (and thus are no longer in the military), but are not offered the same priviledges as those currently serving.

100% agree. I don't understand why they don't also extend it to those who were honorably discharged and hold a DD214 (ala CCL, NCL, RCCL etc.). Even if it wasn't the same discount as active military receives, anything would be appreciated.

MagicMe
10-22-2012, 07:51 PM
I'm glad to see that they have extended military pricing to spouses too! Seriously people, the families are as much in the service as their deployed spouses. True the military member is putting his life in danger but these famlies spend long periods of time separated and raising their families comletely by themselves and deal with the stress of having a loved one deployed. Life is far from a bowl of cherries for them and they deserve a get away when they can. Kudos to DCL.

alaskanabbott
10-22-2012, 07:53 PM
Now let's hope they change the policy back to not penalizing for changing a regular reservation rate to military rate, after the 75 day mark, like they do for Florida residents. Military should get the same benifit :)

IBelieveInTheMagic
10-22-2012, 07:57 PM
Thanks for sharing kcashner!! ;)

You know, I didn't realize this had changed, for the better until just recently! :thumbsup2

I had vaguely heard of the military rates but never really thought about until I saw the great rates and wanted to take my Mom. I'm a military brat myself but of course I don't qualify. My step father is retired military (as is my Dad) and I assumed he would have to travel with my my mom and I since he was the retired military member but then I read on the disney site it clearly said *or spouses*. My mom has a military ID card so I called and confirmed I could book it, pay for it and get the awesome military rate and treat my Mom to a great time!! :cool1: I booked us about 9 days ago for the 12/8 Fantasy sailing and we are so excited - we haven't done a trip with just the two of us in over 20 years! :goodvibes

I now understand why the CM's and Costco said they recently changed some things. I was told we didn't need to fax in her Id card and that was required in the past. I made it very clear my step dad would not be traveling with us and its no problem. She just needs to show her ID card when we check in.

I hope others are able to take advantage of this great opportunity! :goodvibes

Heather

jedijill
10-22-2012, 08:03 PM
I completely agree with this as well.

I would like to see Disney open their rates up to disabled veterans as well. It is a shame that many people have suffered injuries as a result of their military service (and thus are no longer in the military), but are not offered the same priviledges as those currently serving.

:thumbsup2

Jill in CO

jedijill
10-22-2012, 08:05 PM
I'm glad to see that they have extended military pricing to spouses too! Seriously people, the families are as much in the service as their deployed spouses. True the military member is putting his life in danger but these famlies spend long periods of time separated and raising their families comletely by themselves and deal with the stress of having a loved one deployed. Life is far from a bowl of cherries for them and they deserve a get away when they can. Kudos to DCL.


Or HER life. ;)

Lots of women proudly serving or have served as well.

Jill in CO

sissy_ib
10-22-2012, 08:38 PM
I completely agree with this as well.

I would like to see Disney open their rates up to disabled veterans as well. It is a shame that many people have suffered injuries as a result of their military service (and thus are no longer in the military), but are not offered the same priviledges as those currently serving.

It should include medically retired personnel as well. I really don't know how they determine who is medically retired and who is medically separated though.

jedijill
10-22-2012, 08:43 PM
It should include medically retired personnel as well. I really don't know how they determine who is medically retired and who is medically separated though.

Medically retired would have a retirement ID card and be treated like a regular retiree (per my understanding.) The DD214 would have any other info on it.

Jill in CO

sissy_ib
10-22-2012, 08:48 PM
Medically retired would have a retirement ID card and be treated like a regular retiree (per my understanding.) The DD214 would have any other info on it.

Jill in CO

Sorry, what I meant was I don't know how the military determines to medically retire someone or just medically separate them. I just have a regular honorable discharge. I don't think I even know anyone who was medically separated. I do have a friend who gets disability, but she was not discharged for her disability. (It's not combat related either)

jedijill
10-22-2012, 08:57 PM
Sorry, what I meant was I don't know how the military determines to medically retire someone or just medically separate them. I just have a regular honorable discharge. I don't think I even know anyone who was medically separated. I do have a friend who gets disability, but she was not discharged for her disability. (It's not combat related either)

Gotcha. :)

Here is a good article.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theorderlyroom/a/medseparation.htm

I am honorably discharged but have a disability rating due to my military service. Process is the same no matter how the disability occurred.

Jill in CO

Betsy82
10-22-2012, 10:37 PM
Don't some 100% Vets have an ID card that effectively says retired?

That was my understanding of things. So if true, wouldn't they be eligible?

I have a friend 100% but he hasn't gotten his card yet. No reason for him to have it here so he hasn't made the drive yet...

sissy_ib
10-22-2012, 11:28 PM
Don't some 100% Vets have an ID card that effectively says retired?

That was my understanding of things. So if true, wouldn't they be eligible?

I have a friend 100% but he hasn't gotten his card yet. No reason for him to have it here so he hasn't made the drive yet...

Yes, this is what JediJill and I were talking about. According to the link she posted most service members who are 30% or more disabled should be considered retired. So yes, 100% should be. I don't know where you are or how far it is for him but showing a military ID card can give many discounts. We get discounts all over the place. Just yesterday DH got 15% off at a kitchen supply store!

lsenquiz
10-23-2012, 07:59 AM
Don't some 100% Vets have an ID card that effectively says retired?

That was my understanding of things. So if true, wouldn't they be eligible?

I have a friend 100% but he hasn't gotten his card yet. No reason for him to have it here so he hasn't made the drive yet...

My friends father is 100% disabled and he did qualify for the discounts. I do think you have to be 100% disable for this to be true.

stacieps
10-23-2012, 08:27 AM
Don't some 100% Vets have an ID card that effectively says retired?

That was my understanding of things. So if true, wouldn't they be eligible?

I have a friend 100% but he hasn't gotten his card yet. No reason for him to have it here so he hasn't made the drive yet...


Just remember that military retirement and VA disability are not the same thing - I can't tell from your post whether the vet is 100% with VA or military. You get military retirement with a 30% disability, but the criteria is different than your ratings from the VA (military puts you on medical leave for very specific conditions and only those are rated, where the VA rates all of your conditions that arose during your time of service).

My DH was wounded in Iraq. Initially put on Temporary Disabled Retirement from Army at 30% (so he was given a "retirement" ID but it had an expiration date, it was treated as any other military retired ID - we were able to use this for discounts on DCL and at WDW). After 5 years (the longest you can be on temporary) he was awarded Permanent Disabled Retirement at 60%. The Army issued him a "retired" ID (now with no expiration date) - is the same as any other retirement ID, you don't know it was because of a medical discharge. A VA disabled ID is not the same as a military retirement ID.

His rating from the VA is 80% but also unemployable so he receives 100%. This has not changed since his initial discharge when the Army only rated him at 30% - so the ratings can be quite different VA vs. Military

MISSREBECCA76
10-23-2012, 12:01 PM
Now let's hope they change the policy back to not penalizing for changing a regular reservation rate to military rate, after the 75 day mark, like they do for Florida residents. Military should get the same benifit :)

AMEN!!!! I wish they could just transfer your reservation to the new rate. I would even be willing to take the difference not in a cash refund but a stateroom credit.

As it stands you have to cancel your trip, pay the cancellation fees, loose all your reservations/bookings etc. and if you are like me wait the three days for the money to be refunded so you can afford to rebook, and all you can do is hope they still have the rate available. It stinks!!!! :(

chateau
10-23-2012, 12:54 PM
That is EXCELLENT news for our military families.... GREAT job DCL!!!! GREAT job!!:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2 X a billion

chateau
10-23-2012, 12:58 PM
This is great! My husband is returning from Afghanistan this week and we are taking the kids on the fantasy to celebrate next month. Next time he deploys I may consider just taking the kids!

Don't forget to book on board!! Good for you guys!

akheila
10-23-2012, 01:20 PM
I wish they would include canadians....or at least Canadians serving with the US forces. Shades of Green does, but that is the only perk that is offered from Disney, for us little Canadians.

1 Minnie & 3 Mickeys
10-23-2012, 03:21 PM
Does anyone know for sure what documentation is required at check-in for a reservist? The policy I read said military ID and active duty orders from the previous year. Does this mean a reservist needed to be deployed to qualify for the discount? Or, proof that the reservist is still active?

The military rates are really tempting...but the last thing I would want is to not have the correct documentation at check in.

tracyz
10-23-2012, 04:02 PM
This is such great news! Thank you DCL!!! I was very vocal about this last time my husband was deployed...I really wanted to take our daughters on a cruise as a little diversion, but without the military rate it wasn't an option. I was really disappointed and thought it wasn't right...that was a key time when the military discount should be applied, in my never-to-be-humble opinion! :rotfl2: So glad to hear they've come around!!!!:lovestruc

Disney 24/7
10-23-2012, 04:33 PM
I am so happy. My husband is retired Navy but never wants to cruise and I could never get the military rate because he had to be with us, so now I can take advantage of these offers. :cool1:

Luv2Diz
10-23-2012, 05:06 PM
I am very happy that DCL has extended this offer to military spouses. They also make both considerable sacrifices and contributions to the military way of life! Thanks to DCL for acknowledging this. :thumbsup2

anc876
10-23-2012, 05:51 PM
Does anyone know for sure what documentation is required at check-in for a reservist? The policy I read said military ID and active duty orders from the previous year. Does this mean a reservist needed to be deployed to qualify for the discount? Or, proof that the reservist is still active?

The military rates are really tempting...but the last thing I would want is to not have the correct documentation at check in.

My husband is National Guard but AGR (on active duty orders). All he had to show was his CAC card. Since the policy states that orders must be presented, I'd bring them with you just in case.

GetGlowing
10-23-2012, 09:36 PM
Now let's hope they change the policy back to not penalizing for changing a regular reservation rate to military rate, after the 75 day mark, like they do for Florida residents. Military should get the same benifit :)

First, thanks to everyone who has served, no matter for how long!

I will (second, third, fourth...) this. We just changed over to military rate for our Dec 9 cruise on 3 cabins but lost about $1000 in deposits. Meanwhile, my Fla resident inlaws simply had the new rate applied to their reservation without having to cancel and rebook and didn't lose anything in cancellation fees. Still between our 4 cabins we have about $2500 in savings and we're all in balconies, whereas we had all Oceanviews. So not a big complaint, but a complaint nonetheless.

GetGlowing
10-23-2012, 09:36 PM
I am very happy that DCL has extended this offer to military spouses. They also make both considerable sacrifices and contributions to the military way of life! Thanks to DCL for acknowledging this. :thumbsup2

Amen!!!

Minnie321
10-23-2012, 10:31 PM
100% agree. I don't understand why they don't also extend it to those who were honorably discharged and hold a DD214 (ala CCL, NCL, RCCL etc.). Even if it wasn't the same discount as active military receives, anything would be appreciated.

I agree my dad called a few years ago to see if his honorable discharge would allow him to stay at Shades of Green and they told him no he would have had to retire from the military. I guess they have to make a cut off somewhere.

over50visits
10-23-2012, 11:01 PM
I agree my dad called a few years ago to see if his honorable discharge would allow him to stay at Shades of Green and they told him no he would have had to retire from the military. I guess they have to make a cut off somewhere.

I believe Shades of Green is for people in the military. If you resign or are discharged, you are no longer in the military. If you retire, you are still in the military (just a different duty status).

Private companies (such as DCL) can have whatever policies they want. Shades of Green is operated by the government (DOD) and by law can provide their facility to members of the uniformed services and certain other categories specified by law (for example discharged veterans with 100 percent disability).

I think the law should be changed, because this country does not begin to thank those who served. Maybe Congress will consider changing the law someday.

cypressmom
10-23-2012, 11:06 PM
I agree my dad called a few years ago to see if his honorable discharge would allow him to stay at Shades of Green and they told him no he would have had to retire from the military. I guess they have to make a cut off somewhere.

My father served his country, faught in Vietnam, and was honorably discharged, yet is not eligible for Disney discounts. :(

chris31997
10-23-2012, 11:46 PM
My father served his country, faught in Vietnam, and was honorably discharged, yet is not eligible for Disney discounts. :(

Yes, unfortunately that is right. Your father served his country when asked to, however he served only for a year, two maybe four. While, some may have join with the intentions of doing their time and walking away but staying in for 20. Your father served for a short time while someone who is retired served for 20. There is also honorable discharge, general discharge, dishonorable discharge and medically retirement all which affect your life afterwards. Someone with a dishonorable discharge is what I call "non citizen" citizen. They lose alot of their rights, usually because they have been convicted of a crime. General discharge, future employers now look at you wondering what you did. Honorable discharge, is a good thing and not to be taken lightly. We know people who have had to fight for their general discharge to change into a honorable if they behaved for some many years. We have known people who have committed suicide over the dishonorable.

The discount that Disney offers is a privilege and something that we have taken advantage of, however we don't expect it nor assume we rate it because DH is in the military.

cypressmom
10-24-2012, 08:28 AM
Yes, unfortunately that is right. Your father served his country when asked to, however he served only for a year, two maybe four. While, some may have join with the intentions of doing their time and walking away but staying in for 20. Your father served for a short time while someone who is retired served for 20. There is also honorable discharge, general discharge, dishonorable discharge and medically retirement all which affect your life afterwards. Someone with a dishonorable discharge is what I call "non citizen" citizen. They lose alot of their rights, usually because they have been convicted of a crime. General discharge, future employers now look at you wondering what you did. Honorable discharge, is a good thing and not to be taken lightly. We know people who have had to fight for their general discharge to change into a honorable if they behaved for some many years. We have known people who have committed suicide over the dishonorable.

The discount that Disney offers is a privilege and something that we have taken advantage of, however we don't expect it nor assume we rate it because DH is in the military.

I just want to note that no one asked him to serve, he volunteered. Though he probably would have been drafted had he not.

I do understand... my grandfather and great grandfather retired from the navy. I just know that what my dad did was honorable and he gets little to no recognition. :(

sissy_ib
10-24-2012, 08:59 AM
I just want to note that no one asked him to serve, he volunteered. Though he probably would have been drafted had he not.

I do understand... my grandfather and great grandfather retired from the navy. I just know that what my dad did was honorable and he gets little to no recognition. :(

I served for 4 years and was honorably discharged last year. I know things are different then when your dad served but I don't get much. I did get 6 months worth of Tri-care and a few years base privilege. The GI Bill is the only real benifit to me now. My DH is still active duty and that is how we still get discounts. And while discounts are nice that is not why we joined or why he is staying in. Many people honor veterans but it is not always in the form of dollars off.