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Cruisefan2
10-20-2012, 05:19 PM
I know the magic is going under a rigorous 5 week make over. Does anyone know what is going to be done to the ship during its dry dock?

maria-fan-22
10-20-2012, 05:27 PM
Everything!!! :rotfl2:

Disney generally does not actually announce what they are doing until just before the dry dock, or never. But generally one can expect, Scraping and repainting the hull, new carpets, new linens, the usual stuff, and then this is when they can do the big stuff as well, like repainting much of the superstructure, or replacing the soundproofing in the WDT(They may have just done this three years ago), possibly new seats in the WDT. New light fixtures, updated sound systems, heavy maintenance to the engines and motors. Installing new features, like the virtual portholes or interactive game floors. At this point, they could do just about anything. pirate:

jkrislc
10-20-2012, 05:29 PM
I haven't heard, but if DCL follows the lead of Carnival, Celebrity, and RCI, they'll be bringing some of the Dream class features to her. I suppose it's also possible that they could stretch her, but I don't think that's likely.

Five weeks is a pretty long time for dry dock especially if there aren't any known mechanical issues which we'd know from missed ports, cancelled sailings, etc. thus, my guess would be cosmetic in addition to maybe magic portholes, revamping of AP, addition of interactive artwork, and perhaps the BB Botique.

It's really anyone's guess and I'm curious to hear others' thoughts.

kcashner
10-20-2012, 05:31 PM
We found it interesting on our last Fantasy cruise that each CM who talked to us about it "knew" what was happening in their area. We were told that Topsiders is being remodeled into something similar to Cabanas. Our stateroom host told us that all the cabins were being totally gutted and re-done.
All public areas will be cleaned, repainted, recarpeted, etc. New seats in the theaters. Of course, all of this must be considered rumor...but it is what CMs told us.

And what will for sure happen is all the engine inspection and work that is required.

The biggest rumor is that there might be a WBTA added when they have all the dry dock info completed!

Now, as to the original post--5 week? Are you sure? I've also heard 6 week, but then I haven't whipped out a calendar to count days. This is WAY more than cosmetic. There are 5 or 6 weeks empty between the last Med cruise and the date that she's due in Madeira and Gibraltar!

maria-fan-22
10-20-2012, 05:47 PM
Now, as to the original post--5 week? Are you sure? I've also heard 6 week, but then I haven't whipped out a calendar to count days. This is WAY more than cosmetic. There are 5 or 6 weeks empty between the last Med cruise and the date that she's due in Madeira and Gibraltar!

The Magic's vacation is scheduled for September 7(after dropping people off in Barcelona) to October 20 (when she will be in Miami) this is 43 nights of work and travel from Barcelona to Venice and Venice to Miami. My guess is that they will not have a WBTA so they can keep working and testing things on the journey to Miami. But 43 nights is a long time for a ship to be out of service. Can't wait to see what they do! pirate:

taylor3297
10-20-2012, 05:51 PM
The Magic's vacation is scheduled for September 7(after dropping people off in Barcelona) to October 20 (when she will be in Miami) this is 43 nights of work and travel from Barcelona to Venice and Venice to Miami. My guess is that they will not have a WBTA so they can keep working and testing things on the journey to Miami. But 43 nights is a long time for a ship to be out of service. Can't wait to see what they do! pirate:

From what I have been told there will not be a WBTA due to Disney wanting to make sure all the changes are completed for the first cruise on October 20. I am booked on the October 20 cruise, so I guess I will see first hand. Not that I have anything to compare it to since I have never been on the magic.

Newfoundland Sailor
10-20-2012, 06:22 PM
According to the Interior Designers of the Dream and Fantasy - they are also doing the Interior Design of the Magic Refit 2013 and Wonder Refit 2014.

http://www.tillbergdesign.com/about/ (look under References Marine)

[Unfortunately, no photos or concept designs shown.]

If Disney is going with the same interior designers than I definitely could see them using best practices from the larger ships and making them work for the Magic & Wonder.

chemnerd09
10-20-2012, 07:48 PM
Quick question since I'm new. What is a WBTA?

Disneypeach
10-20-2012, 08:10 PM
west bound transatlantic...gotta love acronyms around here :)
Peach

Bonniec
10-20-2012, 08:53 PM
I am booked on the October 20 cruise, so I guess I will see first hand.


*wave* Me too! I can't wait to find out what they will do. :banana:

mkmommy
10-20-2012, 09:20 PM
According to the Interior Designers of the Dream and Fantasy - they are also doing the Interior Design of the Magic Refit 2013 and Wonder Refit 2014.

http://www.tillbergdesign.com/about/ (look under References Marine)

[Unfortunately, no photos or concept designs shown.]

If Disney is going with the same interior designers than I definitely could see them using best practices from the larger ships and making them work for the Magic & Wonder.

If this is true and the Wonder is getting the refit in 2014, it would make sense for the Wonder to be in Europe in 2014.

Carnival is doing a 49 day $155 million refit to the Destiny, adding a deck even, and then renaming the ship The Sunshine next year, so if the Magic is out for 43 days I would expect some big changes.

My kids say if the Magic had an aqua duck it would be a perfect ship, but I can't see that being added.

kcashner
10-20-2012, 09:53 PM
The Magic's vacation is scheduled for September 7(after dropping people off in Barcelona) to October 20 (when she will be in Miami) this is 43 nights of work and travel from Barcelona to Venice and Venice to Miami. My guess is that they will not have a WBTA so they can keep working and testing things on the journey to Miami. But 43 nights is a long time for a ship to be out of service. Can't wait to see what they do! pirate:

She has scheduled docking dates in Madeira and Gibraltar. There are rumors flying as to where the dry dock is scheduled....we've heard 2 different places in Italy and one in Spain. I don't know what is accurate.

The Tillberg Design web site goes along with what we've heard about the guest cabins......

chemnerd09
10-21-2012, 11:23 AM
west bound transatlantic...gotta love acronyms around here :)
Peach

Thanks for info. I'm slowly getting the hang of acronyms, but I hadn't seen that one before.

valbob89
10-21-2012, 03:40 PM
We got off the Wonder 6-14-13. While aboard, I asked about the 2013 and 2014 DCL schedule, specifically the possibility of a WBTA. According to Pierre and Lisa, officers in the hotel services end of the cruise line, a lot depends on the decisions being made at an excutive meeting that was being held the week we were aboard. Apparently there was a meeting of the highest Disney executives, chaired by Robert Iger, to decide business directions, including the budget and overall business plan for the Magic. That would determine the scope of the drydocking for the ship. So while they could not tell me anything in part due to confidentiality directives it was in large part because a lot is yet undecided. They did say that Magic would be drydocked in Spain, not Germany nor Italy.

taylor3297
10-21-2012, 03:50 PM
*wave* Me too! I can't wait to find out what they will do. :banana:

Have you been on the Magic before. I haven't so I won't have anything to compare it to. I really don't like cruises but my family out voted me. So, I am keeping my fingers crossed that we selected a decent cabin for our trip.

castawaycayfans
10-21-2012, 04:35 PM
I heard from a CM on our cruise last Jan that they were going to gut deck 9 and completely redo it. I don't know if this is true or not, but we'll see.

maria-fan-22
10-21-2012, 05:50 PM
I heard from a CM on our cruise last Jan that they were going to gut deck 9 and completely redo it. I don't know if this is true or not, but we'll see.

That goes along with redoing the Buffet and I could see them making the quick service locations like the new ships, though I liked them the way they were. But I don't see them being able to do much with the pools... And the spa could be getting a makeover as well... Makes perfect sense to say that deck 9 is getting an "extreme makeover"... haha Walt Disney Company puns! pirate:

Bonniec
10-21-2012, 06:00 PM
Do ya'll think there is any chance they will add a concierge lounge? Does anyone know when they announce what is being done?



Have you been on the Magic before. I haven't so I won't have anything to compare it to. I really don't like cruises but my family out voted me. So, I am keeping my fingers crossed that we selected a decent cabin for our trip.

Nope. I've only been on one cruise ever. It was a 3 nighter on the Big Red Boat for our honeymoon. I will always remember it. It was the year the Magic launched too. We were at the dock and we first saw our ship and thought it was so big. Then we saw the Magic next to it and were all :scared1: at the size of it. Funny how times change. Now the Magic is a small ship.

Anyway, this has always been my dream vacation so I am super excited for it. We were originally going to go on the Fantasy, but this ended up being cheaper, even with concierge. Plus it goes to Castaway Cay twice and from all my reading, I am really excited to go there. I just wish it wasn't a year away!

I can't wait to find out what they will do in dry dock. Why don't you like cruises?

BTW, I am very worried about my daughter (she will be 19). She gets sick even on the ferry boat at MK.

taylor3297
10-21-2012, 07:21 PM
Do ya'll think there is any chance they will add a concierge lounge? Does anyone know when they announce what is being done?





Nope. I've only been on one cruise ever. It was a 3 nighter on the Big Red Boat for our honeymoon. I will always remember it. It was the year the Magic launched too. We were at the dock and we first saw our ship and thought it was so big. Then we saw the Magic next to it and were all :scared1: at the size of it. Funny how times change. Now the Magic is a small ship.

Anyway, this has always been my dream vacation so I am super excited for it. We were originally going to go on the Fantasy, but this ended up being cheaper, even with concierge. Plus it goes to Castaway Cay twice and from all my reading, I am really excited to go there. I just wish it wasn't a year away!

I can't wait to find out what they will do in dry dock. Why don't you like cruises?

BTW, I am very worried about my daughter (she will be 19). She gets sick even on the ferry boat at MK.

I don't like hanging out on a boat. I rather stay on an island and explore it. Also, too many people in a confined space. The best cruise that I ever went on was a Windjammer and there were 126 people on the boat, including the crew.

We booked a 1 bedroom concierge cabin. So hopefully, that will give us plenty of room. I really don't like small rooms.

My dd who will be 10 when we go, get motion sick on car rides, so she will probably wear her seabands if she needs them.

Bonniec
10-21-2012, 07:54 PM
I don't like hanging out on a boat. I rather stay on an island and explore it. Also, too many people in a confined space. The best cruise that I ever went on was a Windjammer and there were 126 people on the boat, including the crew.

We booked a 1 bedroom concierge cabin. So hopefully, that will give us plenty of room. I really don't like small rooms.

My dd who will be 10 when we go, get motion sick on car rides, so she will probably wear her seabands if she needs them.

Sounds like we have a lot in common. :goodvibes We booked a suite as well for the space. The more I have researched, I am actually glad we are on the Magic. I do like technology so would have likes the Fantasy's gadgets. But I really don't like crowds. And my 6 year old doesn't do well with them either. I think he will prefer the kid areas on the smaller ships. If we had gone on the Fantasu we wouldn't have gotten a suite. Plus I can have a shot at a cabana this way.

slg4crzn
10-21-2012, 07:56 PM
Just wanted to add we also cruised on the little Big Red Boat and one of my best vacations was celebrating my 40 on a Windjammer. I am sure you can find a place on the ship that isn't full of people and if seasickness kicks in go to an outside area. Then all the senses can get in sync. It relieves it some. Happy cruising!

taylor3297
10-21-2012, 08:14 PM
Sounds like we have a lot in common. :goodvibes We booked a suite as well for the space. The more I have researched, I am actually glad we are on the Magic. I do like technology so would have likes the Fantasy's gadgets. But I really don't like crowds. And my 6 year old doesn't do well with them either. I think he will prefer the kid areas on the smaller ships. If we had gone on the Fantasu we wouldn't have gotten a suite. Plus I can have a shot at a cabana this way.

I am hoping to get a cabana for both of the days we are at Castaway Cay. I like knowing that we have our own beach space. When we cruise dd will be 10 (almost 11) and ds will be 6 (almost 7). Both have November birthdays.

Bonniec
10-21-2012, 08:31 PM
Just wanted to add we also cruised on the little Big Red Boat and one of my best vacations was celebrating my 40 on a Windjammer. I am sure you can find a place on the ship that isn't full of people and if seasickness kicks in go to an outside area. Then all the senses can get in sync. It relieves it some. Happy cruising!

Thanks! Good to know about the senses. I'm gonna get her the patch just in case. I can't understand why she gets sick on the ferry boat. You can't feel anything! lol Those little boats that go to the resorts like Wilderness Lodge are even worse for her. It's so odd.

I am hoping to get a cabana for both of the days we are at Castaway Cay. I like knowing that we have our own beach space. When we cruise dd will be 10 (almost 11) and ds will be 6 (almost 7). Both have November birthdays.

Yeah, we are going to try for two Cabanas as well. DH would NOT like a crowded beach so that's super important for us. My older twins will be 19 but my younger son will be 7. Maybe they will meet up! :) He's pretty shy.

RedSox68
10-21-2012, 08:53 PM
I think it would be awesome if they refurbished AP while in drydock. Also wish they would put PC back together they way it used to be before the 2007 Med cruise! :confused3

kcashner
10-21-2012, 10:18 PM
AP was refurbished in one previous dry dock. That's not to say it will or will not happen again; just that it already was done once.

RedSox68
10-22-2012, 08:28 AM
AP was refurbished in one previous dry dock. That's not to say it will or will not happen again; just that it already was done once.

I meant refurbished to be like the one they have on the Dream/Fantasy. AP on the older ships has always been my least favorite -- both for comfort and ambiance. ;)

Tonka's Skipper
10-22-2012, 08:57 AM
Folks you all have to remember that the shipyard refit is a year away. Except for the usual inspections and class reqiurements, mechcanial renewals, which are reqiured, many things are still in the stages of planing and estimating.

In the months to come items will be ok'd and confirmed. Others will be set aside and others added. However as with any ship major refit, changes will be made until she leaves the shipyard and in this case, maybe as they sail west to Miami.

However the guessing can be fun!:thumbsup2

AKK

outahere
10-22-2012, 09:22 AM
Do ya'll think there is any chance they will add a concierge lounge?


When we were on the Dream in August, one of the Guest Service managers, whom we have known for several years, told us that they were trying to figure out if there was somewhere on deck 8 where they could put a Concierge lounge on both the Magic and Wonder.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.

dylan'smom
10-22-2012, 09:22 AM
We spoke with several CMs about the planned changes on our B2B out of Galveston earlier this month.

The one negative (to us) change that is planned is in the staterooms - the current plan is to replace all beds with the ones built into the wall, like the sold queens on the larger ships. They will no longer be able to adjust them for singles. We like this option a lot on the classic ships, but according to several people, this will be done as part of the stateroom renovations. :sad2:

RBD will also be revamped, but there will NOT be an enclosed area added above the Cove Cafe due to top heavy concerns on the Magic (built of heavier materials than the Wonder was).
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Bonniec
10-22-2012, 09:27 AM
What is RBD?

Tonka's Skipper
10-22-2012, 09:54 AM
What is RBD?

Kinda wondering what RBD is as well?????

AKK

Tonka's Skipper
10-22-2012, 09:58 AM
We spoke with several CMs about the planned changes on our B2B out of Galveston earlier this month.

The one negative (to us) change that is planned is in the staterooms - the current plan is to replace all beds with the ones built into the wall, like the sold queens on the larger ships. They will no longer be able to adjust them for singles. We like this option a lot on the classic ships, but according to several people, this will be done as part of the stateroom renovations. :sad2:

RBD will also be revamped, but there will NOT be an enclosed area added above the Cove Cafe due to top heavy concerns on the Magic (built of heavier materials than the Wonder was).
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I don't think stability is a issue, as if they wanted to biuld the enclosed area on the Magic, like the Wonder, they could use aluminium or laminate and not steel.

Most likely it was not needed for the future planed sailing areas of the Magic. The one on the wonder was put in for the Alaskia trade.

AKK

Itinkso
10-22-2012, 10:01 AM
What is RBD?

Rockin' Bar D - nightclub/lounge.

dylan'smom
10-22-2012, 10:03 AM
Kinda wondering what RBD is as well?????
AKK

Sorry, wrong acronym, apparently...Rockin' Bar D night club



I don't think stability is a issue, as if they wanted to biuld the enclosed area on the Magic, like the Wonder, they could use aluminium or laminate and not steel.

Most likely it was not needed for the future planed sailing areas of the Magic. The one on the wonder was put in for the Alaskia trade.
AKK

I'm actually just quoting the captain here - it was his opinion & he went into a lot of detail about it. Apparently the Magic is already a bit top heavy.

They also don't anticipate adding a concierge room at this point, but I suppose any of it could change over time. It was definitely mentioned several times that if they get the changes done early, they will add passengers to the wbta too. But I'm not holding my breath on that one!!

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Tonka's Skipper
10-22-2012, 11:48 AM
mis post

Tonka's Skipper
10-22-2012, 11:50 AM
Sorry, wrong acronym, apparently...Rockin' Bar D night club





I'm actually just quoting the captain here - it was his opinion & he went into a lot of detail about it. Apparently the Magic is already a bit top heavy.

They also don't anticipate adding a concierge room at this point, but I suppose any of it could change over time. It was definitely mentioned several times that if they get the changes done early, they will add passengers to the wbta too. But I'm not holding my breath on that one!!

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Indeed...she has a large GM and righting arm now. The weight of the addition is no more then about 250 metric tons and that should not effect the GM to the point she would have problems. BTW, all cruise liners today was somewhat top heavy.

There could be something different in design and weight distrabution between the Magic and the Wonder, but I would be surprized.

However if you say the Captian had this opinion, I will of course bow to him....she's his ship!

AKK

No problem about the acronym..........I have a hard time keeping up with them all.*G*

n8tivecaligirl
10-22-2012, 12:56 PM
If this is true and the Wonder is getting the refit in 2014, it would make sense for the Wonder to be in Europe in 2014.

Carnival is doing a 49 day $155 million refit to the Destiny, adding a deck even, and then renaming the ship The Sunshine next year, so if the Magic is out for 43 days I would expect some big changes.

My kids say if the Magic had an aqua duck it would be a perfect ship, but I can't see that being added.

Yes, from what I know the Wonder will be doing Europe in 2014. (from a guy who works Customs at the Port of San Diego (who my mom works with).
When the Wonder came into San Diego for the first time in September I was there (luckily I jus flew in) and my mom called the guy to find out how many times the Wonder was gonna be in San Diego. He said 4 this year and again next year as a sort of "farewell tour" before they prep to send her to Europe. We were both SHOCKED because we hadn't heard anything about this yet. So there you go. We now know SOMETHING for 2014,:dance3:

RedSox68
10-22-2012, 01:50 PM
Yes, from what I know the Wonder will be doing Europe in 2014. (from a guy who works Customs at the Port of San Diego (who my mom works with).
When the Wonder came into San Diego for the first time in September I was there (luckily I jus flew in) and my mom called the guy to find out how many times the Wonder was gonna be in San Diego. He said 4 this year and again next year as a sort of "farewell tour" before they prep to send her to Europe. We were both SHOCKED because we hadn't heard anything about this yet. So there you go. We now know SOMETHING for 2014,:dance3:

Whoever they send to Europe, I just hope they come up with a fresh new itinerary and not a repeat of what's already been done.

Silverfox97
10-22-2012, 05:44 PM
Yes, from what I know the Wonder will be doing Europe in 2014. (from a guy who works Customs at the Port of San Diego (who my mom works with).
When the Wonder came into San Diego for the first time in September I was there (luckily I jus flew in) and my mom called the guy to find out how many times the Wonder was gonna be in San Diego. He said 4 this year and again next year as a sort of "farewell tour" before they prep to send her to Europe. We were both SHOCKED because we hadn't heard anything about this yet. So there you go. We now know SOMETHING for 2014,:dance3:

My DH said that very thing ;)

http://disneycruiselineblog.com/2012/10/a-look-at-possible-2014-itineraries/

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