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A Mickeyfan
03-18-2012, 07:48 PM
Wasn't sure where to post this so I figured it was dealing with driving on the roads around Disney so "Transportation" seemed to fit. I am seeing more and more of the Entitlement that is seen in the parks on the roads around Disney now too. I was driving home today, after checking out of an off property hotel this morning. I entered from the ramp near Sea World on I-4 heading West toward Tampa. I was trying to get over into the far left lane as the other two lanes are usually for those trying to get off at the parks this hour of the morning (10am). I was in the right lane and saw an opening for the middle lane but I couldn't see both of the car's headlights so I didn't move over yet, but did have my blinker on. Once I saw both headlights in my rear mirror I moved. The left lane was clear so I moved again. The Blue Toyota Rav 4 must have been upset with me because I went in front of him, so he moved over and tailgated me. When I say tailgated, I mean he was on my freaking bumper! There were no other cars in front of him that he had to move over to pass them. We were all doing about the same speed, approx 70 mph (yes, I know the speed limit is 65 there and the traffic flow was approx 70). He just was doing that to me to show me I could "not" get in front of him. He followed me doing this at approx 70 miles an hour passed the first Disney Down Town exit, and then to the next Disney exit which was for Epcot. When we got near that exit, he had to hurry over the 3 lanes so he could exit and get to the parks! Does he think his "fast pass" or his high priced ticket allows him to ride on someone's bumper thinking they were "cutting him in line" :confused3 I wasn't even getting off anywhere near there, I was getting off in Lake Alfred which was a good distance away from there :confused: That was the reason for getting over to the left, to get away from the local exiting and entering traffic. This must be the bully we see in line who blocks the one parent from trying to catch up to the other parent because they feel they are "cutting the line" :rolleyes:

People, your Disney ticket doesn't give you any entitlement on the roads in Florida. While Disney looks as if they own most of Florida, they don't. So please adhere to the rules of our roads, don't speed, don't tailgate or ride on someone's bumper and do not cut others off because your exit is coming up!

dishguy1977
03-18-2012, 08:01 PM
People who are jerks will be jerks wherever they are...I'm not sure being at Disney had anything to do with this person's driving style. I'd be willing to bet they would have done the same thing when driving in their hometown.:confused3

LWQuestie
03-18-2012, 08:01 PM
Hate to break it to you, but this kind of behavior is not only seen around WDW. Happens everywhere.

bumbershoot
03-18-2012, 08:18 PM
How is this "entitlement"? How is this related to Disney?

You were in the left lane, and NOT going faster than the person behind you. This happens all the time, when someone is in the left lane but going slower than the person behind them.

Since one isn't supposed to pass on the right, it's generally up to the slower person to move out of the left lane, let the speed demon pass, and then move back into the left lane.

By not moving out of that lane, YOU were putting yourself into far more danger than you could have been in. Both of you guys, IMO, were responsible. There's no chance in heck I'd let someone tailgate me at 70. I would move OUT of his way.

luvndizny
03-18-2012, 08:32 PM
When we drive down there, I drive just as safely, if not MORE safely than usual, leave a bit more room than normal, etc... I know people in those areas most likely don't know the area well, etc. (like myself- from out-of-town, etc.). That guy/gal will be a jerk regardless...I just hope he doesn't learn his lesson the hard way. And I HATE tail-gaters! Probably not safe in that situation but I am a big fan of the brake tap- get off my butt dude move!

lost*in*cyberspace
03-18-2012, 08:54 PM
People drive like this everywhere. You were in the wrong to engage with this person. When someone tailgates you, change lanes. Then forget about it. No need to vent on an online message board.

DebbieB
03-18-2012, 09:00 PM
I think it's a real stretch to say they feel entitled to drive this way because of their Disney ticket. I would have just moved to another lane and let them pass. I drive home from work on a 2 lane road. I generally get in the left lane, it's 35 mph but most people drive 50. Many times people think I'm driving too slow at 50 and jump over into the right lane and then back in front of me. There was an SUV the other night that kept jumping between the lanes trying to get ahead of everyone. When we got to the light where I turn left, he was in front of me. So all that jumping around didn't do him much good.

ToddyLu
03-18-2012, 11:10 PM
:) I just listen to Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher" at about 30 decibles and merge as safely as possible. He was a jerk and after about 30 seconds you should have gotten in a different lane especially going at that rate of speed. Just my 0.2$ since it is a message board.

pr surfer
03-19-2012, 09:01 AM
This is neither entitlement or related to Disney. This was a jerk on the road, nothing more.

goofy4tink
03-19-2012, 10:42 AM
Wasn't sure where to post this so I figured it was dealing with driving on the roads around Disney so "Transportation" seemed to fit. I am seeing more and more of the Entitlement that is seen in the parks on the roads around Disney now too. I was driving home today, after checking out of an off property hotel this morning. I entered from the ramp near Sea World on I-4 heading West toward Tampa. I was trying to get over into the far left lane as the other two lanes are usually for those trying to get off at the parks this hour of the morning (10am). I was in the right lane and saw an opening for the middle lane but I couldn't see both of the car's headlights so I didn't move over yet, but did have my blinker on. Once I saw both headlights in my rear mirror I moved. The left lane was clear so I moved again. The Blue Toyota Rav 4 must have been upset with me because I went in front of him, so he moved over and tailgated me. When I say tailgated, I mean he was on my freaking bumper! There were no other cars in front of him that he had to move over to pass them. We were all doing about the same speed, approx 70 mph (yes, I know the speed limit is 65 there and the traffic flow was approx 70). He just was doing that to me to show me I could "not" get in front of him. He followed me doing this at approx 70 miles an hour passed the first Disney Down Town exit, and then to the next Disney exit which was for Epcot. When we got near that exit, he had to hurry over the 3 lanes so he could exit and get to the parks! Does he think his "fast pass" or his high priced ticket allows him to ride on someone's bumper thinking they were "cutting him in line" :confused3 I wasn't even getting off anywhere near there, I was getting off in Lake Alfred which was a good distance away from there :confused: That was the reason for getting over to the left, to get away from the local exiting and entering traffic. This must be the bully we see in line who blocks the one parent from trying to catch up to the other parent because they feel they are "cutting the line" :rolleyes:

People, your Disney ticket doesn't give you any entitlement on the roads in Florida. While Disney looks as if they own most of Florida, they don't. So please adhere to the rules of our roads, don't speed, don't tailgate or ride on someone's bumper and do not cut others off because your exit is coming up!
While I can understand being upset with a tailgater, how do you interpret this to mean he is 'Disney bound' and hence entitled??? That's a pretty big leap there.
So....if you're moving at 70, and there are no cars in the middle lane (since you said the guy tailgating you didn't need to move over in order to pass anyone), why not just move over so he could pass you??? My dh remains in that left lane when there is no one in the middle lane and it drives me nuts. The left lane is for passing, not just traveling.

In all reality, some of the worst driving I have experienced has been in Florida. And I drive in Boston!!!! And 128!!!! But, according to my step-sister, a cop for Broward County, due to the roads being so straight and flat, there is a lot of fast and unsafe driving down there. Add to that the number of seniors who have moved down there, and the huge number of tourists who have no idea where the heck they are going??? Man, a recipe for disaster. There's a reason I try not to drive myself around Disney or Orlando. Too many nuts on the roads down there. And sadly, it's not just the tourists.

It'sWDW4me
03-19-2012, 10:56 AM
I was in the right lane and saw an opening for the middle lane but I couldn't see both of the car's headlights so I didn't move over yet, but did have my blinker on. Once I saw both headlights in my rear mirror I moved. The left lane was clear so I moved again. The Blue Toyota Rav 4 must have been upset with me because I went in front of him, so he moved over and tailgated me.

Is everyone missing the underlined? From what I understand, OP moved into the middle lane (in front of the soon-to-be tailgater) and then immediately moved over into the left-most lane. Out of STB tailgater's lane. The TAILGATER moved over just so that he/she could tailgate!

This has happened to me and it's soooooooo unnerving. Believe me, even if OP would have moved back into the middle lane, tailgater would have moved too and would have continued to tailgate. And at 70 mph! :mad: The idiots, morons, imbeciles, who do this put EVERYONE on the road at risk. This happened to me well over 20 years ago and I can still remember it like it was yesterday. I changed lanes, sped up, slowed down - nothing I did made any difference. He was so close I couldn't even see his headlights in my rearview. I was shaking by the time I took an exit - any exit - just to get this idiot off my bumper.

OP - so sorry this happened to you. But you don't know if the moron was a vacationer or a local peeved at the vacationers. KWIM?

goofy4tink
03-19-2012, 11:21 AM
Is everyone missing the underlined? From what I understand, OP moved into the middle lane (in front of the soon-to-be tailgater) and then immediately moved over into the left-most lane. Out of STB tailgater's lane. The TAILGATER moved over just so that he/she could tailgate!

This has happened to me and it's soooooooo unnerving. Believe me, even if OP would have moved back into the middle lane, tailgater would have moved too and would have continued to tailgate. And at 70 mph! :mad: The idiots, morons, imbeciles, who do this put EVERYONE on the road at risk. This happened to me well over 20 years ago and I can still remember it like it was yesterday. I changed lanes, sped up, slowed down - nothing I did made any difference. He was so close I couldn't even see his headlights in my rearview. I was shaking by the time I took an exit - any exit - just to get this idiot off my bumper.

OP - so sorry this happened to you. But you don't know if the moron was a vacationer or a local peeved at the vacationers. KWIM?
Oh, we got it. We read it correctly. And not one person took issue with the fact that someone moved over just to be a jerk. BUT....that doesn't mean you can assume that the person was headed to a WDW park. There are jerky drivers everywhere.
The OP could have moved over to allow the tailgater to pass him, but he chose not to. And you're right, sometimes the tailgater will be a jerk and just follow you whichever lane you choose. But you know what??? There is usually a reason that someone tailgates like that. They may have felt they were cut off while the other driver never realized they did it...or some other aggravation. Who knows. It happens. You just can't make an assumption that it was someone with a pricey WDW park pass that was feeling entitled.

I will say that I was impressed with the fact that the OP waited until he could see the other car's headlights. Not many people adhere to that policy...and it's a good one. Who knows...maybe the Rav4 driver felt that the OP cut in front of him...maybe he didn't see the directional given. Don't know...but it can happen anywhere.

Oh, WDW4me? I have edited your post to delete the filter avoidance violation. I will assume that you didn't understand the board guidelines about this.

seashoreCM
03-19-2012, 11:30 AM
Are you sure that Disney entitlement is transferring over to the roads?

Or is is road entitlement over the past 20 years gradually transferring over to inside Disney parks?

Now where is that 2000+ reply long wheelchair/scooter thread?

PSUGuy
03-19-2012, 12:22 PM
Little did I realize that on all my 20 trips to Myrtle Beach on I-95 that I was surrounded by DISers with feelings of entitlement.

Bill From PA

LadyBeBop
03-19-2012, 12:57 PM
The left lane is for passing, not just traveling.

In Kentucky and a number of states, it's illegal to use the left lane for other than passing. I don't know if that's the case in Florida or not.

chainkid
03-19-2012, 01:11 PM
My guess is that their are two sides to this story. If I was in the left lane and some one was tailgating me for several miles and I could easily pull into the middle lane maybe they were trying to tell me that I should not be in the passing lane and going slower than traffic. This seems to be happening alot lately. either other countries have different driving rules or people here are not being trained properly as alot of people just get in that left lane and are not going to move over even if an ambulance approached. It's a real per peeve of mine.

maxiesmom
03-19-2012, 01:49 PM
I'm sorry to say it, but you were both equally rude. It is not ok to drive in the left lane, unless you are passing someone. He should not have been tailgating you, but you should not have been just cruising in the left lane either.

GaSleepingBeautyFan
03-19-2012, 03:48 PM
Welcome to Atlanta, GA.

The city where the speed limit is only a suggestion and everyone drives like maniacs and think they are more important than the other folks on the road.

Oh wait - you were talking about Orlando. Sounds like it's the same way there. :rotfl:

darrengs
03-19-2012, 04:08 PM
Sounds like possibly 2 cases of aggressive driving, one driver for speeding & tailgating, and one for speeding and improper lane change.

From Statute 316.085:
"No vehicle shall be driven from a direct course in any lane on any highway until the driver has determined that the vehicle is not being approached or passed by any other vehicle in the lane or on the side to which the driver desires to move..."

goofy4tink
03-19-2012, 04:16 PM
Sounds like possibly 2 cases of aggressive driving, one driver for speeding & tailgating, and one for speeding and improper lane change.

From Statute 316.085:
"No vehicle shall be driven from a direct course in any lane on any highway until the driver has determined that the vehicle is not being approached or passed by any other vehicle in the lane or on the side to which the driver desires to move..."
Well, the OP did say that he checked to see if the lane was clear before moving. The first time he tried to change, he couldn't see the rear car's headlights....same thing I was taught. If you can see the headlights, you should have plenty of room to make the move. The OP left his directional on until he felt he could safely change lanes.
Now......the other driver may have been starting to speed up, may not have noticed the OP moving over...who knows???
I've driven that area before....it can be very busy and congested. It's hard to find a completely empty space to change lanes. But, with so many tourists in the area, it may behoove those who are familiar with the area to take a bit more caution when making lane changes.
Now...perhaps the Rav 4 driver just wanted to drive faster, but the OP felt he was going fast enough...so didn't speed up. Perhaps the Rav 4 driver didn't realize he was quite so close to his exit....again, who knows??

No one in this situation is 100% in the wrong, nor are they 100% in the right.:drive:

maxiesmom
03-19-2012, 05:22 PM
Welcome to Atlanta, GA.

The city where the speed limit is only a suggestion and everyone drives like maniacs and think they are more important than the other folks on the road.

Oh wait - you were talking about Orlando. Sounds like it's the same way there. :rotfl:

Wait, I thought that was only how people drive in Tennessee?????

No offence intended. I love visiting Tennessee. However the people there give a whole new meaning to driving with the flow of traffic.

cinderwannabe
03-19-2012, 05:28 PM
I am from LI and this sounds pretty typical to me! Actually I think I may have gained a couple of points of my driving test for tailgaiting effectively ;)

LSchrow
03-20-2012, 10:58 AM
tourists tend to drive too slow, so it is more likely that this was someone who knew the roads well enough that he could tailgate and not miss his exit.
who knows, the guy just might have been late for his shift at WoD ;)

personally, i agree with others: i would rather move over to avoid a tailgater than expend any energy thinking about them :)

disneymarie
03-20-2012, 10:37 PM
Little did I realize that on all my 20 trips to Myrtle Beach on I-95 that I was surrounded by DISers with feelings of entitlement.

Bill From PA

OMG, total off topic, but we live just miles from each other and got back 2 weeks ago today.
Hello from Route 309 South.
party:

ncc1701
03-20-2012, 10:52 PM
Sounds like a normal day on I95 or the NJ turnpike . Sorry but I don't think Disney is the reason this driver was a pain.

DOOM1001
03-21-2012, 12:43 AM
Welcome to Atlanta, GA.

The city where the speed limit is only a suggestion and everyone drives like maniacs and think they are more important than the other folks on the road.

Oh wait - you were talking about Orlando. Sounds like it's the same way there. :rotfl:

I don't know what a jerk tailgating you has to do with Disney as people drive like idiots everywhere.One thing I've seen is that in some places some driving tendencies are more notable than in other places,for example when I've been in Atlanta I noticed that expressway traffic was moving at rush hour at about 80 mph with the highway jam packed with everyone basically tailgating each other.I'm in South Florida where you'll see every possible idiotic driving move multiple times a day.The tailgating in Atlanta did however creep me out because that doesn't go on in South Florida,our drivers are just not skilled enough to do that you have more of a combination of people doing 50 mph and staying put on the left lane and BMWs zipping past everyone at 90 mph changing lanes constantly,there's no organization people just do their own thing and you have to figure it out as you share the road.Another reason why our Florida drivers are nowhere near as good as the ones I saw in Atlanta are that we crash on ground streets constantly on grid like straight streets,Atlanta has winding roads,hills and trees all over,believe me if we moved our drivers to Atlanta it would be disaster.Orlando has similar traffic to South Florida but you add the tourists adding another danger to the regular dangerous moves people pull.Again I don't really know what an idiot tailgating has to do with Disney but I do agree if you're in the left lane and people are behind you just move over,tailgating you or not.

jpeppers
03-21-2012, 06:12 AM
I so wish we had the traffic that Orlando has in Washington state between Olympia and Seattle (actually Canada). I feel like driving in orlando is like driving on a country road compared to I-5 and I've done close to 15 trips with drives between Tampa and Cocoa Beach.

goofy4tink
03-21-2012, 06:30 AM
I so wish we had the traffic that Orlando has in Washington state between Olympia and Seattle (actually Canada). I feel like driving in orlando is like driving on a country road compared to I-5 and I've done close to 15 trips with drives between Tampa and Cocoa Beach.
I hear ya. I will never, ever forget all my drives betweeen Snohomish and Seattle...OMG!! Who knew there was traffic like that out there???

gram
03-21-2012, 12:13 PM
Never tap your brakes, it is too dangerous. Just hit your emergency flashers. Does the same thing without endangering you and your family.

bumbershoot
03-21-2012, 02:26 PM
Never tap your brakes, it is too dangerous. Just hit your emergency flashers. Does the same thing without endangering you and your family.

Doesn't that just indicate that you have a problem with your car? Which means you should be in the far *right* lane, or perhaps not on the highway at all, of course.

dudspizza
03-21-2012, 02:48 PM
I think everyone is being a bit too touchy the Disney was brought into the conversation. The fact is that with the OP's intentions, the tailgater was out of line. The OP was moving out to the left to avoid slower traffic that was anticipated ahead due to the Disney exits. Sure, the tailgater didn't know the OP's intentions, but they should have relaxed and not tailgated so close that they could have killed someone.

Road Rage is so common these days and you can see that type of behavior everywhere, including Disney.

Everyone have a nice day! Life is too precious to get all worked up about someone like the SUV driver......

Look at me.... I am feeling a warm and fuzzy today....... lol

Duds

kngtrtn
03-21-2012, 04:52 PM
I think everyone is being a bit too touchy the Disney was brought into the conversation.

I think people are saying it is a s-t-r-e-t-c-h to try and tie this incident of bad driving (which can happen anywhere in the country) with what some people have termed "The Disney Entitlement" - - -

People are saying this has nothing to do with Disney and are questioning the OP trying to tie it to WDW.

dudspizza
03-21-2012, 05:13 PM
I think people are saying it is a s-t-r-e-t-c-h to try and tie this incident of bad driving (which can happen anywhere in the country) with what some people have termed "The Disney Entitlement" - - -

People are saying this has nothing to do with Disney and are questioning the OP trying to tie it to WDW.

I totally understand that....... this is a Disney board so OP is equating it to Disney..... no big deal in the end either way.....

Agreed it happens everywhere and is equally annoying in Minnesota or Florida....

goofy4tink
03-21-2012, 05:26 PM
Ok, how about we phrase it this way??? The OP was there, in the area of that most happiest of places in the world, when someone came along and ruined the magic for him. Hah!!! Made it about Disney.

Any way.....perhaps, just perhaps, the OP didn't have as much room as he thought he had when he moved in front of that SUV. Maybe, just maybe, the SUV driver was surprised since maybe, just maybe, he had been adjusting his AC, so didn't notice the OP moving in front of him...and he got annoyed. So, maybe he figured he would 'show' the OP....jumped behind him and tailgated. Yep, that sure showed 'im didn't it??!!!

All in all...the OP should have just moved over, back into the middle lane. He said, in the original post, that there were no cars in front of the SUV, in that middle lane, so the SUV had no need to move over and tailgate. So, why couldn't he, the OP, have just moved over into the empty lane??? Or, if it was so empty, why didn't he wait until the SUV had passed him and then moved into that lane behind him???
Ah!! See...many different scenarios that I can imagine. There is fault all around.
Have a magical day!!!

gram
03-22-2012, 03:34 PM
Doesn't that just indicate that you have a problem with your car? Which means you should be in the far *right* lane, or perhaps not on the highway at all, of course.
HA! I did not make myself clear, I did not mean leave them on, just hit them for a second and turn off. Lights up your brake lights just like hitting the brakes only safer.

bumbershoot
03-22-2012, 03:43 PM
HA! I did not make myself clear, I did not mean leave them on, just hit them for a second and turn off. Lights up your brake lights just like hitting the brakes only safer.

Aha. That makes more sense.

Though I know that for myself, if I'm being followed closely at a high rate of speed, the last thing I want to do is make things complicated in my car by finding the rarely used flashers and clicking them on and off! But that's just me, and I almost never get in the passing lane anyway.

Day-Day
03-22-2012, 04:15 PM
I think it's a real stretch to say they feel entitled to drive this way because of their Disney ticket. I would have just moved to another lane and let them pass. I drive home from work on a 2 lane road. I generally get in the left lane, it's 35 mph but most people drive 50. Many times people think I'm driving too slow at 50 and jump over into the right lane and then back in front of me. There was an SUV the other night that kept jumping between the lanes trying to get ahead of everyone. When we got to the light where I turn left, he was in front of me. So all that jumping around didn't do him much good.


Now this is scary since a two lane road only has one lane for each direction.:scared1:

:laughing:

DebbieB
03-22-2012, 05:18 PM
Now this is scary since a two lane road only has one lane for each direction.:scared1:

:laughing:

Sorry, 2 lanes in each direction! It's not a highway, so both lanes are used.

MAYNARDS99
03-23-2012, 01:10 PM
Sort of off topic, but I drive a smaller car with a small engine. Although my engine is small I tend to drive "quickly" when in the fast lane. Please keep right if you are not going fast! I will never understand why someone in a large V8 engine, sports car will drive in the fast lane going the speed limit?

FYI - I do not tailgate, that is just stupid. If I am being tailgated I move to the right as far as possible and slow down. The tailgater will move on!

A Mickeyfan
04-07-2012, 08:08 PM
How is this "entitlement"? How is this related to Disney?

You were in the left lane, and NOT going faster than the person behind you. This happens all the time, when someone is in the left lane but going slower than the person behind them.

Since one isn't supposed to pass on the right, it's generally up to the slower person to move out of the left lane, let the speed demon pass, and then move back into the left lane.

By not moving out of that lane, YOU were putting yourself into far more danger than you could have been in. Both of you guys, IMO, were responsible. There's no chance in heck I'd let someone tailgate me at 70. I would move OUT of his way.just got around to coming back to this thread.. did you not read my thread.. he came behind me and was riding my bumper. He didn't go into the left lane to pass anyone, there was no one to pass at that moment. He did it to ride my butt since I went in front of him. I can understand going in the left lane, but not on someones bumper. I was doing 70 in a 65, what do you want me to do? 75 and get a ticket to make the jerk behind me happy?

A Mickeyfan
04-07-2012, 08:14 PM
Ok, how about we phrase it this way??? The OP was there, in the area of that most happiest of places in the world, when someone came along and ruined the magic for him. Hah!!! Made it about Disney.

Any way.....perhaps, just perhaps, the OP didn't have as much room as he thought he had when he moved in front of that SUV. Maybe, just maybe, the SUV driver was surprised since maybe, just maybe, he had been adjusting his AC, so didn't notice the OP moving in front of him...and he got annoyed. So, maybe he figured he would 'show' the OP....jumped behind him and tailgated. Yep, that sure showed 'im didn't it??!!!

All in all...the OP should have just moved over, back into the middle lane. He said, in the original post, that there were no cars in front of the SUV, in that middle lane, so the SUV had no need to move over and tailgate. So, why couldn't he, the OP, have just moved over into the empty lane??? Or, if it was so empty, why didn't he wait until the SUV had passed him and then moved into that lane behind him???
Ah!! See...many different scenarios that I can imagine. There is fault all around.
Have a magical day!!!
read my post again.. I was going home.. of which I go to the parks every 6 weeks or so. I see the difference in how people drive there and cut others off when they get closer to their exit.. and a little FYI, I am a she. Why should I have moved back over, so the Toyota could just follow me over there again. The Toyota followed me because in his eyes I cut him off. True, this could have happened anywhere, not just at Disney. However because it happened here, when the Toyota did realize he was at his exit, he had to cross over 3 lanes of traffic at this point, cutting others off to get to his exit all because he wanted to ride my bumper... get the picture now

A Mickeyfan
04-07-2012, 08:20 PM
I think everyone is being a bit too touchy the Disney was brought into the conversation. The fact is that with the OP's intentions, the tailgater was out of line. The OP was moving out to the left to avoid slower traffic that was anticipated ahead due to the Disney exits. Sure, the tailgater didn't know the OP's intentions, but they should have relaxed and not tailgated so close that they could have killed someone.

Road Rage is so common these days and you can see that type of behavior everywhere, including Disney.

Everyone have a nice day! Life is too precious to get all worked up about someone like the SUV driver......

Look at me.... I am feeling a warm and fuzzy today....... lol

Duds
you understand what I was saying.. and I related it to Disney as they were getting off one of the Disney exits.. and relating it to those that block you at the attraction cue when you are trying to get to your family members...:lmao: "The Bully".. the bully on the road, the bully on the cue... that was why I related it. I would bet anything that person's personality is one that would do that in the parks. Road rage on the road, park rage in the parks... it equates to much of the same thing... no patience.. and life is too precious to have it cut short by some jerk cutting people off and killing them...:sad2:

A Mickeyfan
04-07-2012, 08:28 PM
I'm sorry to say it, but you were both equally rude. It is not ok to drive in the left lane, unless you are passing someone. He should not have been tailgating you, but you should not have been just cruising in the left lane either.

I normally do not drive in the left lane unless I am passing someone. However, on this stretch of I-4 I always do. I find that with all the tourist who do not know what exit they want, they realize a bit too late and have a tendency to cut others off and cause accidents. I know if I am not getting off at any of the Disney exits I stay over to the left and drive with the flow of traffic. If you drive I-4 as much as I do, you might know what I am talking about and you would see that others do in fact drive in that left lane. It is safer as opposed to being in the middle lane then having others from the left realizing they need to get over, and they don't care if you are there or not, they are getting over. When going approx 5 miles over the speed limit, with the flow of traffic, I do not hold up the traffic behind me. If someone wants to speed, let them go around me. The left lane is not the "no speed limit lane". It does have a speed limit. Just because those that want to travel 20 miles over it feel you don't belong there doesn't mean you don't. They are in the wrong for speeding. ;) Tell an officer why you were tailgating.. gee officer, she was only going 70 in a 65 and I could not go that slow... duhhh not going to fly is it?

A Mickeyfan
04-07-2012, 08:37 PM
Sounds like possibly 2 cases of aggressive driving, one driver for speeding & tailgating, and one for speeding and improper lane change.

From Statute 316.085:
"No vehicle shall be driven from a direct course in any lane on any highway until the driver has determined that the vehicle is not being approached or passed by any other vehicle in the lane or on the side to which the driver desires to move..." hmmmm not sure if you read the entire statue or not...


In every event the overtaking vehicle must return to an authorized lane of travel as soon as practicable and, in the event the passing movement involves the use of a lane authorized for vehicles approaching from the opposite direction, before coming within 200 feet of any approaching vehicle.

and I do believe that is exactly what I did. I waited until I could safely see both his headlights in my rear view mirror (that is a rule of thumb for when to change lanes), once in the middle lane in front of him, I checked to see if left lane was clear, and it was, I moved to the left lane.. so I would say that once I overtook the vehicle, I returned to an authorized lane of travel, as the left lane is an authorized lane of travel to continue straight on I-4. There are no signs stating it is for passing only.

A Mickeyfan
04-07-2012, 08:43 PM
FYI for anyone not knowing FL's laws.. it is not against the law in Fl to use the left lanes excpet for passing. In some states it may be, but in Fl it is not. You can drive in the left lane.. Gov Bush tried to pass it in 2005 but it was never signed into law. So when you all are going to tell me I am wrong to drive in the left lane, please double check the laws of the State of FL. before doing so...:goodvibes and when driving in that left lane, you must be doing the speed limit. You cannot be doing below it. You also are not supposed to be doing much over it either, it is not the Daytona 500 track.



http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html

A Mickeyfan
04-07-2012, 08:55 PM
Is everyone missing the underlined? From what I understand, OP moved into the middle lane (in front of the soon-to-be tailgater) and then immediately moved over into the left-most lane. Out of STB tailgater's lane. The TAILGATER moved over just so that he/she could tailgate!

This has happened to me and it's soooooooo unnerving. Believe me, even if OP would have moved back into the middle lane, tailgater would have moved too and would have continued to tailgate. And at 70 mph! :mad: The idiots, morons, imbeciles, who do this put EVERYONE on the road at risk. This happened to me well over 20 years ago and I can still remember it like it was yesterday. I changed lanes, sped up, slowed down - nothing I did made any difference. He was so close I couldn't even see his headlights in my rearview. I was shaking by the time I took an exit - any exit - just to get this idiot off my bumper.

OP - so sorry this happened to you. But you don't know if the moron was a vacationer or a local peeved at the vacationers. KWIM?

you got it! had I moved over, he would have followed me back. There was no reason for him to have gone into that left lane other than to have followed me. There was no one in front of him in the middle that he needed to pass.. not like he wanted to get around anyone. Maybe he wasn't a vacationing jerk, maybe a working jerk, who knows.. but is sure was a Disney exit he was getting off at... and he had luggage on his luggage rack, that I did forget to say until just now when I was trying to envision his car.. I could not see a plate, so I don't know from what State, but there was luggage on his rack.. so more than likely he was going to the happiest place on earth and was in one big hurry.. just as the other poster (on theme parks board) who was complaining about driving to the World and getting a speeding ticket in GA.. she felt that the police in GA stop those going through the state on their way to Disney and give them tickets.. she was doing 86 in a 70, but could not see that was the reason she was stopped...:confused::confused3 ok.... you are doing 16 over the limit and you are going to blame the State and the Officer... that is an example of Disney entitlement... or just being spoiled.. either one :goodvibes

bumbershoot
04-08-2012, 12:14 AM
you got it! had I moved over, he would have followed me back. There was no reason for him to have gone into that left lane other than to have followed me.

And people say that he was not in the right *as well*. He did wrong. But once he was doing that, it behooved you to get out of his way, no matter what the reason behind his actions.

maxiesmom
04-08-2012, 07:30 AM
FYI for anyone not knowing FL's laws.. it is not against the law in Fl to use the left lanes excpet for passing. In some states it may be, but in Fl it is not. You can drive in the left lane.. Gov Bush tried to pass it in 2005 but it was never signed into law. So when you all are going to tell me I am wrong to drive in the left lane, please double check the laws of the State of FL. before doing so...:goodvibes and when driving in that left lane, you must be doing the speed limit. You cannot be doing below it. You also are not supposed to be doing much over it either, it is not the Daytona 500 track.



http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html

It may not be legally wrong to drive in the left hand lane, but as far as being a courteous driver goes, it is still rude and annoying to everyone else on the road.

goofy4tink
04-08-2012, 07:57 AM
read my post again.. I was going home.. of which I go to the parks every 6 weeks or so. I see the difference in how people drive there and cut others off when they get closer to their exit.. and a little FYI, I am a she. Why should I have moved back over, so the Toyota could just follow me over there again. The Toyota followed me because in his eyes I cut him off. True, this could have happened anywhere, not just at Disney. However because it happened here, when the Toyota did realize he was at his exit, he had to cross over 3 lanes of traffic at this point, cutting others off to get to his exit all because he wanted to ride my bumper... get the picture now
Oh, I 'get the picture', I truly do. And you know what??? It amazes me that you just know what the other driver was thinking.
I see fault everywhere on this one. And evidently, you didn't 'get' the gist of my post. I merely tried to bring it back to a Disney topic.

It would seem that the OP feels that SHE bears no responsibility here....and having not been there, I can't say either way. But I have to imagine that there is fault all the way around.
So, with this in mind, and the fact that the OP steadfastly refuses to believe that SHE was responsible at all, and steadfastly comes back to argue with just about everyone??? Yep, this thread is done, before it goes any further downhill.