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disney5
01-24-2012, 09:18 AM
I am disgusted that a student could actually consciously find an I touch in school and take it!
My 13yr old realized his fell out of his pocket at the end of the school day.
When he got home we did the Locate app on the icloud...presuming it would show the school. It showed a location on a residential street. We sent a message to it with our phone#. Before we could go to the satellite picture to get a more accurate location the "new owner" disabled the locate app!!

This was a replacement Itouch that he bought with his own money.
I called Apple to see if they could restore the app but they said no.

I guess an expensive lesson in life!!

mickeymaker2003
01-24-2012, 10:05 AM
I guess before leaving the house, we'll have to password protect the iPods... If they don't know the password to get it to work, they won't be able to disable the locate app either (at least not quickly).

It's too bad they don't have the option to password protect the locate app so thieves can't just turn the app off.

Call apple and report it stolen. They might be able to block the serial number from being used on iTunes.

stczt
01-24-2012, 10:32 AM
Both of my boys got iPhone for Christmas. The junior traded phones wih his girlfriend and someone picked her pocket. They txted her and said it was in the office hoping I guess we wouldn't worry about all weekend. We looked for it and saw it wasn't on campus so dh locked it. They unlocked it and called and texted jamica. So we disabled the sim card. They also texted and bragged to dh how easy it was to steal and to tell the girl thanks. We went to the bus stop where we located the phone and we saw a girl get off the bus that is in the class it went missing. Now if the school officer will do anything. We have done everything for him all he has to do is talk to the girl.

girli565
01-24-2012, 10:35 AM
I password protect all my i products. That's the easiest way to make sure the locate app can't be disabled.

smitch425
01-24-2012, 10:56 AM
I am disgusted that a student could actually consciously find an I touch in school and take it!
My 13yr old realized his fell out of his pocket at the end of the school day.
When he got home we did the Locate app on the icloud...presuming it would show the school. It showed a location on a residential street. We sent a message to it with our phone#. Before we could go to the satellite picture to get a more accurate location the "new owner" disabled the locate app!!

This was a replacement Itouch that he bought with his own money.
I called Apple to see if they could restore the app but they said no.

I guess an expensive lesson in life!!

So sorry this happened to your DS. This just serves as a reminder that kids have no business taking anything of value to school. Too easy to lose or get stolen, and too much money to replace. An expensive lesson indeed!

disney5
01-24-2012, 12:49 PM
An expensive lesson indeed...and it was his own $$!
Unfortunately his password was 1234 so they figured it out!!
I agree..these items should not be brought to school. He had an away game after school and wanted it for the bus ride to pass the time.
So not happening with my other kids..NO ITouches going to school!

SandrA9810
01-24-2012, 12:51 PM
Kids have been stealing in school for ages. It's no different from a deck of Pokemon cards 10 years ago to an Ipod/Itouch or anything of great value today. I mean, most kids in my school wouldn't dream of bringing their gameboys to school, just under the fear that the teacher would take it away till the end of the year.

I don't see how it's so surprising that they loose stuff or kids steal stuff. Heck, I can't even remember how many house keys I went through as a kid.

rszdtrvl
01-24-2012, 01:49 PM
:Standing on Soapbox:

It really ticks me off that people feel entitled to whatever they want, by any means necessary.

Stealing is one of the lowest things people can do. If it is not yours - DON'T TOUCH IT!

A person should be able to bring an ipod, itouch, laptop, etc. somewhere without fear of someone stealing it.

:Leaving Soapbox:

(And no, nothing of mine or my child's was stolen recently - the entire stealing thing really frustrates me.... )

LovinPooh
01-24-2012, 02:06 PM
As a mom who just bought her kid a much wanted Ipod, I am sooo sorry! That is terrible! Breaks my heart.
I absolutely refuse to let DD take it to school. It stays home. I am looking into this tracking app now though!!

arthuruscg
01-24-2012, 02:19 PM
With Android you can go to the we App Market from a PC and force an install programs.
Can you do that with IOS? If so you might be able to track the Itouch.

HM
01-24-2012, 02:23 PM
It doesn't end when they get older either. My son is a freshman in college this year. He's had an expensive school book stolen and a significant part of his laundry taken from the dryer. We had to pay a lot of money to replace these things for him because they were necessary. (and really...these things were in "his home" so shouldn't have been easy targets).

I feel your pain, OP.

pixiewings71
01-24-2012, 04:56 PM
:Standing on Soapbox:

It really ticks me off that people feel entitled to whatever they want, by any means necessary.

Stealing is one of the lowest things people can do. If it is not yours - DON'T TOUCH IT!

A person should be able to bring an ipod, itouch, laptop, etc. somewhere without fear of someone stealing it.

:Leaving Soapbox:

(And no, nothing of mine or my child's was stolen recently - the entire stealing thing really frustrates me.... )

Wish there was a like button...... :thumbsup2

I teach my kids to respect other people's stuff, stealing is the worst form of disrespect. Sorry OP! I hope you can do something to deactivate it so the thief can't use it!

beaucoup
01-24-2012, 05:28 PM
I too password protect any device that has that option. Especially any device that leaves the house. Phones & laptop especially.

All our iDevices have a wallpaper photo that contains our name, email & home phone #. You see it behind the screen asking for the password.

So even if you can't get pass the password, if you are an honest person, you can still see the contact info. If you aren't, oh well.

Even our cameras have a photo on them of an index card with contact info.

I'm really careful about guarding my possessions. I strap my pocketbook with the shopping cart child safety strap too. lol

caribear
01-24-2012, 05:38 PM
My 9 year old keeps asking to bring her iPod Touch to school. Every morning I tell her no. She then tells me that all her friends bring them to school. Told her I do not care what her friends do, but she is not taking her iPod Touch to school. Sometimes you just have to be the mean mom.

Hope you son is able to get his iPod back!

Friendofpluto
01-24-2012, 09:51 PM
My sister's teenage son lost her iPad. The finder- a young college student sent her a message on her FB acct listing her name and telling her where to pick it
up. There are some honest people.

tink fan
01-25-2012, 02:38 PM
What is the locate app?

How do you get it--only on icloud??

book_junkie
01-25-2012, 02:54 PM
I'm sure there are others, but with all my stuff (Android phone and tablet and iPod touch) I have Lookout. https://www.mylookout.com/ It's free, and it requires one email to sync up everything. If you want to pay you can add in features like remote wipe out and remote lock, but I don't know if that's available for the Apple products- I do know it's available on Android. It also scans all apps for viruses as they are downloaded.

:goodvibes

HsvTeacher
01-25-2012, 03:13 PM
I too password protect any device that has that option. Especially any device that leaves the house. Phones & laptop especially.

All our iDevices have a wallpaper photo that contains our name, email & home phone #. You see it behind the screen asking for the password.

So even if you can't get pass the password, if you are an honest person, you can still see the contact info. If you aren't, oh well.

Even our cameras have a photo on them of an index card with contact info.
I'm really careful about guarding my possessions. I strap my pocketbook with the shopping cart child safety strap too. lol

I just wanted to say that this is an excellent idea! I've found several SD cards, but unfortunately, there was no way to get them back to the owners. I think I might just have to leave a picture like that on each one of my cards.

Catira
01-25-2012, 03:23 PM
I just wanted to say that this is an excellent idea! I've found several SD cards, but unfortunately, there was no way to get them back to the owners. I think I might just have to leave a picture like that on each one of my cards.

That is indeed a very good idea. I will me adding my info on my camera:goodvibes

JB2K
01-25-2012, 03:29 PM
What is the locate app?

How do you get it--only on icloud??

"Locate" is not an "app", per se -- it is actually a function called "Find my iPhone" and is built-into the latest firmware running all Apple iOS devices (Pad, Phone, Touch) which is accessible through iCloud.

And to answer a question, it also includes "disable" and "wipe" functions at no extra cost.

If your iOS device does not have this function, you may need to update your firmware...

sbell111
01-25-2012, 03:38 PM
"Locate" is not an "app", per se -- it is actually a function called "Find my iPhone" and is built-into the latest firmware running all Apple iOS devices (Pad, Phone, Touch) which is accessible through iCloud.

And to answer a question, it also includes "disable" and "wipe" functions at no extra cost.

If your iOS device does not have this function, you may need to update your firmware...

That is not actually correct. 'Find My iPhone' is an app that you download from the app store. Go to the app store, search on 'find', and it will likely be the top one on the list.

descovy
01-25-2012, 04:27 PM
That is not actually correct. 'Find My iPhone' is an app that you download from the app store. Go to the app store, search on 'find', and it will likely be the top one on the list.

It's okay, you are both right...

I got my i Phone Dec 2010 and got the Find My phone app from iTunes. This was before the cloud was available. They did a segment on the app on the Today show, and I downloaded it right then and there.

2 of my kids just got Ipod touches this Christmas (2011) and it was already in setting under the iCloud. Yes, it was already installed... no need for them to download it.

clh2
01-25-2012, 07:20 PM
Always such helpful information on the DIS. DD just got an iphone on Monday - the "locate" app is definitely of interest to me...

I also LOVE the tip about taking a picture on the memory card of you contact info.

beaucoup
01-25-2012, 08:12 PM
While we are at it, our GPSs also contain our contact info on the start up screen. I don't know if all models have that ability.

A friend places a return address label on the inside of the battery compartment lid if that's not an option. Again, not all devices have this.

Something is better than nothing. But only if the people are honest.

MineMail
01-25-2012, 09:08 PM
A cop friend suggested not putting your home address on the GPS as the "Home" location because if your car is stolen, they know you're not home and can find where you live. If you keep your registration in the glove box, the point is moot, but just to be on the safe side, I put the address of our development's swim club. It's such a beautiful building, I'd like to imagine myself living there like it's my estate. :rotfl: Imagine a thief's surprise when he pulls up to the clubhouse in my Saturn, lol.

Thanks to the OP and other contributors for the advice about the locator app. DH is going to set it up for the iPods; he already has it for his iPhone.

Luv Bunnies
01-25-2012, 11:14 PM
I allow my DS16 who has Asperger's to take his iPod on the bus. It helps him block out the noise from the other students and keeps him from getting anxious. So far, he's been very responsible about keeping it in his backpack except when he's on the bus.

MY DS13 told me someone had a laptop stolen at his middle school yesterday. The kids are allowed to bring laptops on "work days" when they're scheduled to work on a project or essay in class. Only a few kids actually bring them. Most just write the old-fashioned way. He said a girl left her laptop in her backpack during lunch. When she came back, it was gone. Later in the day, the principal had every 7th grader write a note regarding whether or not they had any information about who took the computer. The note could be anonymous if they chose. My son said he put his name on his note, and wrote that he didn't take the laptop and didn't know who did. He said he thought it was better to put his name on it and be clear about exactly what he knew (which was nothing). I was proud of him!

PatMcDuck
01-25-2012, 11:42 PM
I remember seeing a report on 60 minutes years ago, and in the report they said that Apple could help find almost all their stolen items, if they wanted to. Which they do not.

As soon as a person links the iPod, iPhone, iTouch, etc to their iTunes, they can match up the email address to the seriel number. But they do not want to be in the police business.


I had my Kindle DX stolen at Philadelphia Airport. I called Amazon, and they said they disabled the device. They would not allow anyone to link it to their Amazon account, they were locking it out. So the thief could only read MY books that were already on there, for the most part. (I guess they could get free ones somehow too from other sources?)

My special needs DS takes an iPad to school to communicate. So far, so good.

iheartdisney
01-26-2012, 12:22 AM
That is awful!
My children are allowed to play video games at Boys and Girls Club on Fridays. Of course, the only way they can get them to Boys and Girls Club is to take them to school first. It makes me VERY anxious to think of DD's ipod and DS's 3DS sitting in their backpacks all day. But I told them:
1. Don't tell anyone yu have them. If no one has them, no one knows to take them. Plus, I don't want them being taken away by the teacher!
2. If they do get lost/ stolen/ broken...I don't want to hear about it! They take the chance of taking their games, they accept the responsibility and the consequences. So far, so good.
They attend a very small school. I don't know if I would be comfortable with that if we went to one of the rougher schools, or once they get to higher grades.

Bell30012
01-26-2012, 05:43 AM
My DD9 has an iPhone in her backpack when she goes to school each day. Before she leaves for school she carefully, makes sure it is completely turned off. Not even her friends know she has it.

To give additional security the book bag I bought her had a bit larger zippers. I got her a small TSA luggage lock and she locks that front zipper where she keeps any money and her phone.

I have restrictions on her iPhone and the password. I've tested the Find your iPhone app out when I misplaced my iPad (left in the office). I was able to lock it. Maybe sending the text message to it tipped the thief off in your case.

scrapquitler
01-26-2012, 06:49 AM
I remember seeing a report on 60 minutes years ago, and in the report they said that Apple could help find almost all their stolen items, if they wanted to. Which they do not.

As soon as a person links the iPod, iPhone, iTouch, etc to their iTunes, they can match up the email address to the seriel number. But they do not want to be in the police business.


Well why would they want to? If your item got returned, you wouldn't have to buy a replacement one :laughing: But seriously, years ago it might have been reasonable, but these days, with the sheer number of Apple devices out there, it would be a logistical nightmare for them. Years ago there might have been 10 million ipods out there, today there are probably 500 million of them.

momof3ds
01-26-2012, 08:05 AM
An ipad, ipod, kindle, nook, or any other electronic device can be easily restored to factory settings, even if they are locked.

When restored to factory settings, it's just like a brand new device to anyone who has it.

http://www.factory-reset.com/wiki/Kindle_3

PatMcDuck
01-26-2012, 08:29 AM
Well why would they want to? If your item got returned, you wouldn't have to buy a replacement one :laughing: But seriously, years ago it might have been reasonable, but these days, with the sheer number of Apple devices out there, it would be a logistical nightmare for them. Years ago there might have been 10 million ipods out there, today there are probably 500 million of them.

Exactly, that was the gist of the story. Too many iPods out there, they would have to hire employees to handle all the "investigations". And they would get tangled up in people falsely claiming theft for various reasons. Not to mention overwhelming local police departments with trying to get the ipods back, I guess. They just set up situations where they left iPods on tables at food courts, on busses, etc. For the story, Apple DID locate the devices, as the people who "found" them went onto their iTunes.

It was interesting, typical TV story, as they then went and confronted the people who had the lost/stolen iPods.....

DizzyStitch
01-26-2012, 01:03 PM
I know this is not the same as the expensive electronics but when my DD was six she left her brand new stuffed disney pegasus toy at the quick service in Mexico at EPCOT. I was shocked to return and find someone had turned him into the bar area and we got him back. Boy was she happy since she had bought him herself. So it does happen, just not as often as we would like.

luvthemouse71
01-26-2012, 01:11 PM
An ipad, ipod, kindle, nook, or any other electronic device can be easily restored to factory settings, even if they are locked.

When restored to factory settings, it's just like a brand new device to anyone who has it.

http://www.factory-reset.com/wiki/Kindle_3This is true, but with the Kindle, you can report it stolen and they will not allow the thief to register it. It's useless at that point.

luvthemouse71
01-26-2012, 01:18 PM
An ipad, ipod, kindle, nook, or any other electronic device can be easily restored to factory settings, even if they are locked.

When restored to factory settings, it's just like a brand new device to anyone who has it.

http://www.factory-reset.com/wiki/Kindle_3This is true, but with the Kindle, you can report it stolen and they will not allow the thief to register it. It's useless at that point.

sam_gordon
01-26-2012, 01:18 PM
A cop friend suggested not putting your home address on the GPS as the "Home" location because if your car is stolen, they know you're not home and can find where you live. If you keep your registration in the glove box, the point is moot, but just to be on the safe side, I put the address of our development's swim club. It's such a beautiful building, I'd like to imagine myself living there like it's my estate. :rotfl: Imagine a thief's surprise when he pulls up to the clubhouse in my Saturn, lol.

While a thief might know YOU'RE not home, they don't know if anyone else is home.
I don't know about other states, but we're required to carry registration if we get pulled over.