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k5jmh
09-14-2011, 12:17 PM
While this is still fresh on my brain, I thought I would throw out some things we learned from our Recent Adventures by Disney Trip to London and Paris. I hope that this reference will help not only those traveling to London and Paris, but to other locations as well


Understand the Power requirements of the locations you are going.

Check all of your devices and make sure they are capable of dual voltages!
Learn what plug adapters you will need. London and Paris use different power plugs than the ones used in the US and they are different from each other.
Get a dual voltage power strip that uses a universal power connector. If you get into a situation where you need to unplug a lamp to get power, you can plug in the lamp into the universal plug.


http://terrywhite.com/techblog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/universalpowerstrip.jpg http://www.chinawholesalez.com/img/p/n/universal-us-eu-au-to-uk-ac-power-plug-adapter-travel-converter-ceg404-83621-1.jpg
If you have an Ipad and want to avoid costly internet charges at the hotel, find a SIM Card provider that does not require a credit card on file.

I used Vodaphone. They charged 5 for a Sim and 250mb of data. I was able to get an additional 750mb for 15. Very reasonable. I used about 500mb total while we were in London.


Think about the bag you will carry around and protecting your wallet.

Think about using a messenger bag over a backpack. It is easier to keep a hand on a messenger bag. I carried a messenger style camera sling bag instead of my backpack. It is not as easy for someone to take items from a messenger bag.
Watch your pockets and be aware of your surroundings at all times.


If you use the hotel internet, bring a small wifi router (not access point).

When you purchase the hotel wifi or wired internet, you can only use it on a couple of devices. I had my travel router with me. This helped in connecting my Ipad, Blackberry, Iphone, and laptop. The router allowed me to use the wired connection and share that with all of my devices.


If you have free time, plan it out before you go on your trip.

We made reservations at a couple of restaurants several months out. These were small cafes and the space went quickly.


Take time to plan out where you want to wander.

Know that the most popular locations, in Paris especially, are popular targets for pickpockets and scammers. People will also sell "le crap" at these spots. AVOID THEM. We saw a person buy something and then he was then pegged as a "sucker." And was hit by every illegal "le crap" vendor.


XL = Sausage Skin in Paris.

I tried to purchase an XL shirt in Paris but was not happy to find that XL in Paris means body condemn in US sizes. They do not sell any thing above XXL, and that was even tight.

More to come....

gonesaleing
09-14-2011, 06:26 PM
Keep them coming.

We are thinking of taking our kids to London/Paris over Easter break in 2012 to celebrate my daughters high school graduation and our 20 year anniversary.

k5jmh
09-18-2011, 10:53 AM
As they pop in my head, I update the thread.

Feel free to add your own!

DisneyKevin
09-18-2011, 12:51 PM
As Mike has said...

Do some research in advance and have an idea of what you'd like to see and do.

While the entire Adventure was excellent, two of my best experiences happened because someone made some advance plans.

I'm not suggesting that you need to make reservations (but if you want to dine somewhere specific...they really help), but more about having an idea of places you would like to see and visit.

London and Paris are huge cities and can be great fun to wander around, but I wanted to see some specific things.

While I didn't have a schedule, I was able to tell the driver where I wanted to go. Having specific addresses help as well.

I would suggest that while doing your research, keep a list or journal with names and street addresses. I can almost guarantee that your internet is going to work better (and cost less) here than there.

Hope that helps.

k5jmh
09-18-2011, 01:23 PM
I would suggest that while doing your research, keep a list or journal with names and street addresses. I can almost guarantee that your internet is going to work better (and cost less) here than there.

Hope that helps.

Another wise DIS'er also showed us these little gems...

http://www.moleskine.com/catalogue/city_notebook/

http://www.moleskine.com/php/manage/products/images/Paris.jpg

This is what Christy and I used to take notes and compile research. We used these for our notes, City Maps, and Metro and Tube maps. We were also able to keep a travel log for the trip.

BriarRosie
09-18-2011, 01:42 PM
That universal plug strip was probably the best thing. Christy bought one, and it really helped in France, where they don't believe in multiple plug outlets.

If go back (which I hope I can someday), I will be getting one. And I probably should have planned out some things I wanted to do on my free time, but I didn't think I really had time to go off on my own. I paid the price for having some books and not really planning out things to do.

On the plus side, I did have a plan pre-tour to see the British Museum, and that came with a plan in mind. It did work for me without any problems, and I'm glad I didn't miss out on that.

Sarabi's Cubs
09-18-2011, 05:26 PM
I would add that if you get a new fancy camera for the trip, figure out before you go how the settings work for (1) turning off the flash for pictures in museums where it's not allowed and (2) taking nighttime pics. Then you won't have to harass your fellow travelers (hi, Mike!) for camera advice!

Laurie

k5jmh
09-18-2011, 06:25 PM
I would add that if you get a new fancy camera for the trip, figure out before you go how the settings work for (1) turning off the flash for pictures in museums where it's not allowed and (2) taking nighttime pics. Then you won't have to harass your fellow travelers (hi, Mike!) for camera advice!

Laurie

Anytime!!! :thumbsup2

The best learning you can do is by experimentation!

sayhello
09-18-2011, 07:25 PM
I totally agree on the universal power strip! I bought this one, which is pretty much the same as Mike's, but a bit more compact.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41el81HBeCL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003UHYDYO

It was so nice to only have to worry about one adapter per country, and to be able to plug in anything that was 220 compatible, and plug in multiple things at at time. Excellent advice!

And while I agree to an extent with the planning ahead thing (really quite useful during the London portion of the trip!) I found the Adventure Guides were a wealth of knowledge and suggestions for my free afternoon in Paris. I really had no idea what I wanted to do, and they presented me with several suggestions, of which visiting the Sacre-Coeur Basilica sounded the most fascinating. They gave me excellent directions and a map for getting there, and I had a wonderful time. Sometimes the unplanned things are great, also. I just say, be open. You never know what will present itself.

Sayhello

jcb
09-19-2011, 11:07 AM
I can add a couple of things. First, don't drive in Paris as they don't seem to be able to figure out whether to drive on the right or left side of the highway. ;)

http://www.infolettre.fr//gabarit/images/Real/23/periph546.JPG
(from http://www.infolettre.fr//gabarit/newsletterview.php?news=9402 - via photoshop disasters).

And if you go on a trip for any length of time, repair your roof first. We had hail damage from a few months ago which has not yet been repaired. We thought we had the leak covered with tarp. Because we didn't go on on this ABD adventure :sad2:, we were at home when TS Lee dumped buckets of rain on our house. We were fortunate to be able to put down buckets to catch the water instead of coming home to find our upstairs toilet sitting in our downstairs kitchen. It's an ill wind that blows no good.

belle41379
09-19-2011, 01:55 PM
I found that a lot of the typical tips for touring WDW worked in London and Paris:

Plan ahead, but don't over plan.

Take time to soak in your surroundings.

Nap in the afternoon if you want to, and the time allows.

Don't be afraid to try new things (foods, experiences, etc).

Remember you are on vacation. Relax and have fun.


The other thing I would say that hasn't been mentioned yet, is remember to be respectful of the cultures you are in whenever you go to another country. Knowing a few key phrases, understanding the general personality (such as things are much slower paced than we are use to...something I fell in LOVE with), etc can go a long way for a more enjoyable experience, and also leaves a better impression of American visitors in general. :thumbsup2

On another note....I'm ready to go back tomorrow. Who's with me? :rolleyes1

Chropistopy
09-19-2011, 02:28 PM
I know that I was concerned with overpacking...but then didn't bring enough clothes. My thought was that I would wear pants a couple of times. What I didn't think about is that walking around and getting clothing sweaty, dirty, etc is not conducive to rewearing items. I wish that I had brought more. On future trips, I will make sure I have enough clothing and just suck it up and pay the $ for the extra bag or overweight limit charges.

Chropistopy
09-19-2011, 02:30 PM
I'll also echo knowing a little of the language. I knew the very basics...hello, thank you, do you speak english...but wish I would have knew more. It started to feel rude just automatically asking if they spoke english.

mattincanberra
09-19-2011, 04:50 PM
Plan ahead, but don't over plan.

Take time to soak in your surroundings.



I couldn't agree more - planning to do unplanned things would be my tip!

Some of the coolest stuff for me was the unplanned and spontaneous things - a shopping trip with Pete that ended up with no shopping but i think hours spent at a cafe overlooking the Eiffel Tower, or our midnight trip to the Arc de Triomphe followed by drinks in the cafe on the Champs Elysees.

JWren1234
09-19-2011, 09:18 PM
I'll also echo knowing a little of the language. I knew the very basics...hello, thank you, do you speak english...but wish I would have knew more. It started to feel rude just automatically asking if they spoke english.

I had the same experience, I had hoped my high school/college French would come back to me but it didn't. On my next trip to Europe I plan to learn the language beforehand to make things easier.

Jason

belle41379
09-20-2011, 09:15 AM
I couldn't agree more - planning to do unplanned things would be my tip!

Some of the coolest stuff for me was the unplanned and spontaneous things - a shopping trip with Pete that ended up with no shopping but i think hours spent at a cafe overlooking the Eiffel Tower, or our midnight trip to the Arc de Triomphe followed by drinks in the cafe on the Champs Elysees.

That night was definitely a trip highlight!:cloud9:

I had the same experience, I had hoped my high school/college French would come back to me but it didn't. On my next trip to Europe I plan to learn the language beforehand to make things easier.

Jason

I was shocked by how much came back to me, with just 2 years of French in high school. It ended up being a highlight for me - rediscovering the language. It was exciting being able to do some translating for fellow Adventurers.

Tons of amazing memories.

LionKingRules84
04-21-2012, 10:07 PM
Thank you so much 'k5jmh' for starting this thread!

After signing up for the upcoming Knights and Lights in October I hit a fork in the road on where to start in research and planning and this thread has already given me a good start on things I should either keep in mind or start on. Almost forgot about the universal power strip!

Someone mentioned language and I'm already in the process of learning french and my husband already knows some. Anyone that wants to learn a lot in a small amount of time I highly recommend 'Fluenz' French! I've learned more in two weeks from that then my husband learned in 2 years from his high school French class(or so he tells me) and I'm not even half way through the first disc! It's a bit pricey but it's worth it! Just the first disc is helpful and you can buy per disc or as a set.

I'm more worried about London with planning than Paris since just being in Paris is almost enough for me! I went to London on a Europe trip in high school and I was disappointed when I left because I only got to do one thing I wanted to do but then I didn't have the freedom then that I do now! So far the only things I want to do in London that I haven't or isn't planned on the adventure is The British Museum and The National Gallery since it has one of my favorite Van Gogh paintings!

Thank you for all the great ideas in this thread though and if anyone has anymore please share every little bit helps! :thumbsup2

jessrose18
04-22-2012, 10:02 AM
I am just about to leave on my london/paris trip and I have found Rick Steves guidebooks to be the best and tripadvisor to be amazing! On tripadvisor go to the forums for each city as well as read reviews for each attraction and look at the photos! Rick Steves guidebooks break down each attraction very nicely, time to tour, hand drawn maps, descriptions of must sees/ or rooms in palaces etc. And I agree about Paris, just walking around is an attraction, in London we have a busy itinerary of "sites". Planning is half the fun! Enjoy!

And as for outlet converters, try Amazon by far cheaper than going to a store. I also found a universal hair dryer at walmart for 10 bucks (small one) and a universal hair straightner at marshals (mini) i realized a week before we left that mine weren't hair crisis diverted!

Also as far as getting excited for dlrp...dlrp today is a great blog and they do a podcast as well! It's very entertaining! They are dis'ers as well.

DisneyKevin
04-22-2012, 10:17 AM
If you have a DVR or access to iTunes or Netflix....I would suggest catching some of the shows that deal with places you are going.

My personal favorite is Samantha Brown and she has several shows on London and Paris. All of them have a permanent place on my iPad. This is true for Rome, Tuscany and Venice as well.

I have also watched Giada deLaurentis, Anthony Bourdain, Rick Steves (who is like visual valium...he puts me to sleep), Globe Trekker, Barefoot Contessa etc.

You never know where an idea might come from.

This is how I found that bakery in Paris (Poillane) and some of the other stuff.

There are some awesome blogs out there as well, which is how Christy found that amazing restaurant in Paris (in someone's house)...which was one of the great nights of my life.

Keep in mind that guide books are already several months old by the time they are printed, distributed and sold at book stores. And while they may be great for things that don't change (The British Museum), they aren't so good at what's happening currently.

Use all of the resources at your disposal.:thumbsup2

MinnieGarden
04-22-2012, 11:55 AM
Thank you so much 'k5jmh' for starting this thread!

After signing up for the upcoming Knights and Lights in October I hit a fork in the road on where to start in research and planning and this thread has already given me a good start on things I should either keep in mind or start on. Almost forgot about the universal power strip!

Someone mentioned language and I'm already in the process of learning french and my husband already knows some. Anyone that wants to learn a lot in a small amount of time I highly recommend 'Fluenz' French! I've learned more in two weeks from that then my husband learned in 2 years from his high school French class(or so he tells me) and I'm not even half way through the first disc! It's a bit pricey but it's worth it! Just the first disc is helpful and you can buy per disc or as a set.

I'm more worried about London with planning than Paris since just being in Paris is almost enough for me! I went to London on a Europe trip in high school and I was disappointed when I left because I only got to do one thing I wanted to do but then I didn't have the freedom then that I do now! So far the only things I want to do in London that I haven't or isn't planned on the adventure is The British Museum and The National Gallery since it has one of my favorite Van Gogh paintings!

Thank you for all the great ideas in this thread though and if anyone has anymore please share every little bit helps! :thumbsup2

London is going to be fabulous this year! If we could do the trip again this year, I'd do it primarily for the very unique events happening in London this year..... the Olympics and the Diamond Jubilee. Granted, you will be there in October so those things will be mostly over, but there will still be a lot of special things going on.

Having done the trip last year, my advice is to do what you enjoy. Ok, I know that sounds silly..... my husband loves classical music, so we discovered there are several free organ concerts at St. Paul's in London (not on your adventure) and Notre Dame. I love shopping and food, so I researched those things. I can tell you all about fabulous scarves, copper pots, and the tiny restaurant that Kevin loves.

Also, if you have a Kindle or the Kindle app on your iPad, consider downloading guide books. They tend to be a little more current because they are released a little quicker. :goodvibes

k5jmh
04-22-2012, 03:37 PM
:rolleyes1 There is also an amazing series on Netflix called "The Tower" . It is documentary series.

LionKingRules84
04-22-2012, 04:18 PM
Thanks so much this is truly the most helpful thread ever!!!

Kevin: I remember you mentioned Samantha Brown on the podcast but didn't think to check her on Netflix! They have her to rent but nothing streaming.

I'm and huge fan of Anthony Bourdain, mostly because he has my dry, sarcastic and cynical sense of humor plus he always visits places most others don't. No one should watch his shows that doesn't want to know where your food comes from. Call me strange but I actually have a greater respect for what I eat from his shows. His last episode he did on Paris was great! I plan on visiting 'Rue Mouffetard' because of that episode.

I like the travel shows on my local channel 12 here Rick Steve's is among them. I concur with the 'putting you to sleep' I found a podcast of his and his podcast actually did put me to sleep and there's not much that can do that! :P I think it's his voice that does it. I like him because he seems to always know of every art museum in every European country and I happen to like to know that I'm a sucker for art. I had to take Art History in College and I feel in love with those classes and art after taking them. Even Modern Art which never interested me till I took those classes(I had some great teachers one actually was French). I've been wanting to visit the Louvre again since College since I actually have an understanding of a good amount of what they have. Plus I love learning new things about art.

Kevin&Christy : I'll have to dig on the net for some blogs then never thought of doing that either.

I just got a Kindle for Christmas and have been contemplating whether I should buy the book or Kindle version. I only have a Kindle Touch though so if there are any color pages they come up as black and white.

jessrose18: Thanks for the universal hairdryer tip! I actually need a new one since my nice travel size hair dryer broke recently. :(

k5jmh: I saw that series listed on Netflix for Streaming. I haven't gotten around to watching it yet though.

Thanks again for all the tips, keep them coming they are truly helpful!

DisneyKevin
04-22-2012, 04:32 PM
:rolleyes1 There is also an amazing series on Netflix called "The Tower" . It is documentary series.

k5jmh: I saw that series listed on Netflix for Streaming. I haven't gotten around to watching it yet though.

Each episode is approximately 80 hours long....or maybe that's just how it feels.

On top of that, the series starts in 1100 or something like that.

"In this first episode, we'll cover 1100 to 1103."

I started to count my teeth about 40 minutes in.

I kept thinking of all of the useful things I could be doing.

You have been warned.:headache:

This is like watching paint dry. No, that's not fair. Drying paint makes this sucker look interesting.

k5jmh
04-22-2012, 05:50 PM
I still hear the hideous music from that show in my nightmares.

sayhello
04-22-2012, 06:31 PM
jessrose18: Thanks for the universal hairdryer tip! I actually need a new one since my nice travel size hair dryer broke recently. :(I can't vouch for the Foxhills Hotel, because it's new this year, but all the other hotels had hairdryers in the room, and they worked just fine for me (and I have a lot of very thick hair). I didn't bring a blow dryer, and didn't miss it. Although the one at the Disneyland Hotel was a bit of a challenge... I bought & brought a travel flat iron, and found it totally inadequate to do anything with my hair. I ended up buying a new full-sized one at Harrod's.

Sayhello

k5jmh
04-22-2012, 06:37 PM
And, Harrods does take US Bank and Credit Cards. No need for British 's at Harrods. Several other places accepted US cards as well.

Sarabi's Cubs
04-22-2012, 08:09 PM
Ahem, Kevin!!!! SOME of us out here LIKED "The Tower". To each his own!! Keep bashing it and I'm sending you a copy of David Starkey's "The Monarchy", which I also thoroughly enjoyed and which is about 100 hours long.:thumbsup2

Laurie

DisneyKevin
04-22-2012, 09:55 PM
Ahem, Kevin!!!! SOME of us out here LIKED "The Tower". To each his own!! Keep bashing it and I'm sending you a copy of David Starkey's "The Monarchy", which I also thoroughly enjoyed and which is about 100 hours long.:thumbsup2

Laurie

:scared1:

"In 1103, they realized that you'd get a better result if you stacked the stone block."

"In 1104 they swept the tower with brooms made of straw."

"In 1105 nothing interesting happened."

"In 1106....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

LionKingRules84
04-23-2012, 12:34 AM
I can't vouch for the Foxhills Hotel, because it's new this year, but all the other hotels had hairdryers in the room, and they worked just fine for me (and I have a lot of very thick hair). I didn't bring a blow dryer, and didn't miss it. Although the one at the Disneyland Hotel was a bit of a challenge... I bought & brought a travel flat iron, and found it totally inadequate to do anything with my hair. I ended up buying a new full-sized one at Harrod's.

Sayhello

Thanks for this I forgot to ask if the hotel rooms had hairdryers or not. A lot of the times the hairdryers are kind of whimpy though and I have long thick hair and most hair dryers can't completely dry my hair. I'll probably end up doing my hair on the bus after waiting for it to dry enough to put up properly. The one I had that broke was more powerful than most hotel hairdryers but I'm sure with my laziness I'll probably end up using whatever they have at the Hotels.

:lmao: at Kevin and k5jmh! The Tower series sounds great! :rolleyes1

jessrose18: Thanks for the suggestion on DLRP site it's getting me extremely excited to visit Disney Land Paris! I've been so excited to go to Europe again I almost forgot the major highlight of this particular trip. :)

jessrose18
04-23-2012, 10:58 AM
Also check out dlrpmagic site good tips, and restaurant menus and ride descriptions. I did pick up the unofficial guide to disneyland paris from amazon as well, good book, but no 20th anniv stuff, which looks so exciting!! Rewatched some episodes of The Tudors last night on streaming netflix, if you are interested in Henry VIII make sure to watch this series!

LionKingRules84
04-25-2012, 11:51 PM
Finally got my Samantha Brown rentals from Netflix and her shows are a great resource! Her weekend episode for London was great! Didn't even know of the Camden Market! Reminds me so much of local South Street in Philadelphia, although hopefully less trashy but we will see. ;)

SingingMom
04-27-2012, 04:28 PM
How terrible is it of me that we leave in less than three weeks and I haven't even opened my Frommer's guides yet?!? :eek: I'm thinking 8 hours on a plane will take care of the reading, but I really wasn't "planning" anything more than a very few things - looking at the City of Knights & Lights itinerary, it didn't seem like there was all that much "free time on your own" to really get much in, anyway..,:confused3 or am I really super behind in my planning? (I don't want to have a wish list, and then realize there isn't time for it... we're sort of content to let the guides show us the way for our first "European Adventure" :hippie: )

lost*in*cyberspace
05-09-2012, 11:57 AM
And, Harrods does take US Bank and Credit Cards. No need for British 's at Harrods. Several other places accepted US cards as well.

:confused3

Every place in Europe which accepts debit or credit cards accepts cards from the US. The only problem you may encounter is trying to use such a card in a machine (such as at a train station) which only accepts cards with a chip and pin, which most US cards don't have. Sometimes you will also have to hand your card to a cashier rather than running it through a reader yourself due to the lack of the chip.

You also need to make sure that your debit card has a 4 digit pin if you want to use an ATM.

k5jmh
05-09-2012, 12:37 PM
I know they will accept debit and CC cards, but Harrods, since the have a presence in the US, can charge in US dollars with no currency exchange fees. Kept me from having to using my chip and pin debit card.

lost*in*cyberspace
05-10-2012, 10:23 AM
I know they will accept debit and CC cards, but Harrods, since the have a presence in the US, can charge in US dollars with no currency exchange fees. Kept me from having to using my chip and pin debit card.

I wonder how favorable their exchange rate is? I have had cashiers in a number of countries (France, Italy, etc.) ask me if I wanted to charge my purchase in dollars or in the local currency. I don't think they need a presence in the US to do this. I always chose local currency as I don't trust the store exchange rate.

There are US credit cards which do not charge you currency exchange fees; Capital One is one of them. I try to use this card when traveling overseas.

DisneyKevin
05-10-2012, 10:26 AM
I wonder how favorable their exchange rate is? I have had cashiers in a number of countries (France, Italy, etc.) ask me if I wanted to charge my purchase in dollars or in the local currency. I don't think they need a presence in the US to do this. I always chose local currency as I don't trust the store exchange rate.

There are US credit cards which do not charge you currency exchange fees; Capital One is one of them. I try to use this card when traveling overseas.

I was asked this in Harrod's, when buying a pair of sunglasses.

These are sold in the states and are never "on sale".

Using a Capital One Visa, they were almost $100 less then they are here in the states.

jessrose18
05-10-2012, 10:49 AM
Just returned from London/Paris. We never had a issue with our non chip cc. I did go to the ticket window at train station though because I heard it might be an issue in London. We used our disney visa for a lot of purchases and the exchange rate they charged was always the posted rate for the day, as well as a 3% foreign exchange fee. So for every "sale" on my statement I have a "fee". For example 20 pounds charged, was 1.61 to the dollar so $32.20 plus a fee of .97. We also took out cash twice in each country as to not have too much left over and used cash for food and for museum fees i knew ahead of time. TCF bank charged me $5 foreign atm fee everytime I took out cash as well as 3% fee on cash taken out as well. So, in hindsite getting a capital one card would have saved me some money :)

ps. we had a wonderful trip, a highlight was the new Disney Dreams show at DLRP Wow Amazing!!!!!!

LionKingRules84
06-15-2012, 03:53 PM
Since it doesn't seem to have been mentioned I've been watching Rudy Maxa's 'Europe to the Max' and while some of the ones I've rented are a bit old(about 8 for the England one) he visits places that neither Rick Steves or Samantha Brown visit. Thought I would recommend that in case anyone needs some ideas for either England or France.

I seriously could spend years going to either country several times, I especially am fascinated by France the most though.

jessrose18
06-15-2012, 04:26 PM
I have also seen rudy maxa's videos, from the library. He comes into my restaurant that I work at a lot and I always want to tell him about my travels and discuss european traveling, but I chicken out! (his hometown is in st.paul, mn so I see him a lot!) He's a great guy.

mattincanberra
06-28-2012, 12:06 AM
I wonder how favorable their exchange rate is? I have had cashiers in a number of countries (France, Italy, etc.) ask me if I wanted to charge my purchase in dollars or in the local currency. I don't think they need a presence in the US to do this. I always chose local currency as I don't trust the store exchange rate.

There are US credit cards which do not charge you currency exchange fees; Capital One is one of them. I try to use this card when traveling overseas.

In my experience you never do better selecting the home currency in these situations - the currency conversion is effectively an "up-sell", it just isn't disclosed as such, it's offered as a "convenience".

On the Chip and Pin thing, the various merchant agreements require that stores accept mag-stripe only cards from overseas cardholders, however most store clerks have been trained only to accept chip and pin. This is of course not an issue in places frequented by tourists, but if you are on your own and outside the centre of London things can go wrong.

I was once in need of an emergency Tuxedo in Windsor (long complicated story), and found one in a menswear store, flat out refused to accept a swipe card even if it meant loosing a reasonably sized sale - most common place I have been refused service because of lack of chip-and-pin cards has been in suburban independent 7-11 style corner stores.

Matt

Sarabi's Cubs
06-28-2012, 09:10 AM
I was once in need of an emergency Tuxedo in Windsor

Matt


I have decided that I clearly need to rethink my career path so that it includes more stories in which I am required to purchase emergency evening wear in Windsor!

Laurie

sayhello
06-28-2012, 11:14 AM
I have decided that I clearly need to rethink my career path so that it includes more stories in which I am required to purchase emergency evening wear in Windsor!

Laurie:thumbsup2 :goodvibes

Sayhello

SingingMom
06-28-2012, 09:12 PM
I have decided that I clearly need to rethink my career path so that it includes more stories in which I am required to purchase emergency evening wear in Windsor!

Laurie

:lmao::rotfl:

LionKingRules84
07-02-2012, 10:29 PM
Speaking of 'evening wear in Windsor' wondering if some or all of the dinners on any ABD trip requires something nicer than say a nice clean pair of jeans and shirt. I'm assuming the most 'dressy' we will be expected to wear would be business casual? My husband will be fine but I only have so many 'nice' outfits these days. Just want to know if I should be shopping for dinner wear and if a mens suit would be necessary to pack for my husband?

SingingMom
07-02-2012, 10:37 PM
Speaking of 'evening wear in Windsor' wondering if some or all of the dinners on any ABD trip requires something nicer than say a nice clean pair of jeans and shirt. I'm assuming the most 'dressy' we will be expected to wear would be business casual? My husband will be fine but I only have so many 'nice' outfits these days. Just want to know if I should be shopping for dinner wear and if a mens suit would be necessary to pack for my husband?

Business casual is perfect for dinner. You could even get by with good jeans and a nice top if you'd like. I tended to dress up a little for dinner. My husband wore khakis and button down shirts. Everyone dressed up a bit for the farewell dinner, most men wore sports jackets and women dresses or dressy pants, but it wasn't mandatory. A men's suit or fancy evening wear is not necessary. Enjoy your trip!

LionKingRules84
07-02-2012, 10:46 PM
Business casual is perfect for dinner. You could even get by with good jeans and a nice top if you'd like. I tended to dress up a little for dinner. My husband wore khakis and button down shirts. Everyone dressed up a bit for the farewell dinner, most men wore sports jackets and women dresses or dressy pants, but it wasn't mandatory. A men's suit or fancy evening wear is not necessary. Enjoy your trip!

Thanks for the quick response! That sounds very doable to me. :thumbsup2