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corster
09-01-2011, 10:38 PM
Quiet update to the Air Canada website this morning:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelinfo/airport/baggage/checked.html

Flights between Canada and the United States:

1st bag: $25 CAD*
(per direction)

*Tickets issued before September 7 or travel before October 11, 2011: Check a 1st bag free

2nd bag: $35 CAD**
(per direction)

**Tickets issued before June 1, 2011: Check a 2nd bag for only $30 CAD (per direction)

disneymath
09-01-2011, 10:53 PM
Sigh ... yet another reason I'm glad we decided to cross the border and fly out of BUF for our New Years trip. ACs flights are so expensive already you would think that a free checked bag wouldn't be so much to ask.

I'm sure more people will go the carry on route to lessen the baggage fees ... I hope AC starts enforcing the carrying on baggage size limits. There were excessive amounts of "oversized" carryons on our flights to and from YVR/YYZ this past August. At first it was comical watching people with larger than allowed carryon luggage and huge overflowing backpacks try to find places for their stuff ... it soon got annoying because these people were taking up more than their share of space and other passengers had no room to store their stuff.

fan1080
09-02-2011, 06:23 AM
Yet another reason not to fly AC.

In fact, I can't remember the last time I've flown AC. They've always been much more expensive than other airlines for the dates/times we've travelled anywhere.

gilsan
09-02-2011, 07:16 AM
I am sure WestJet will have a baggage fee soon enough.

We usually just take carry ons and on Canadian airlines there is usually lots of cabin space for bags, but that will be changing with these bag fees:sad2:

Ted in Halifax
09-02-2011, 07:17 AM
Wow .. didn't see that coming. Earlier this week I bought YHZ to PHX for June 30 2012 to July 14 2012 for $310 each (yes, from Halifax and yes that does include taxes ... why can't I get one of these prices to Florida)

This flight is via continental .... so I was thinking that it was too bad that I can't get this through AC, since I would save $200 in bag fees for 4 people. Guess I'd better forget that.

Ted

My 2 princesses
09-02-2011, 09:43 AM
To all who travel with carry on to avoid the fees - what do you do about shopping?? I can't come back from WDW without going to the outlet store.

And again.......glad to live close to the border. One more reason AC does not get my business.

I did not read the article but is this for overseas flights as well? By overseas I mean Oz/England etc?? Don't see anyone travelling with carry on on these long haul ones.

tone.def
09-02-2011, 09:45 AM
They don't get my business anyway! This just gives me more reason to overlook them.

SmilingGrump
09-02-2011, 09:48 AM
WestJet charges $20 for a second bag, first one is free. We've been quite unhappy with them too (though still greatly prefer WestJet over AC). WestJet's schedule out of Edmonton has gotten progressively worse over the last couple of years and their pricing has gotten higher. Sadly, we're back to flying the US cattle cars :sad1:

Camshell
09-02-2011, 03:42 PM
We just traveled to WDW in May with Horizon/Alaskan airlines and had to pay baggage fees. It's probably becoming the norm for all airlines. I just added it to my budget as another expense I needed to cover, including my additional bag for souvenirs for my return trip.

By the way we attempted to have as much luggage via carry-on (which we normally would have checked for convienence sake) to avoid a big luggage fee. Everyone else did too on our flight as the carry-on was quite full in the cabin.

Disney Addicted
09-02-2011, 03:50 PM
More reasons to drive to Buffalo or Detroit and fly from there...

I was considering Air Canada for a flight to LAX next year as it would be so much more convenient flying a non-stop flight. (I cannot seem to find a non-stop flight from BUF to LAX). But that increases our cost another $170 - $205. And hey! Is that a flat-rate for a round-trip? Or would it be $25 for your 1st suitcase x both ways?

I still would rather not fly out of BUF for a connecting flight... I would be worried about lost luggage the whole time! I guess I should start looking at Detroit for a non-stop flight.

candygirlIRE
09-02-2011, 04:28 PM
WestJet charges $20 for a second bag, first one is free.


Yep, this is why we are flying Westjet now instead of AC -- we would have to budget in a load more money just for bags!!! That's my DL frozen banana money!! LOL :rotfl:

Really sucks, but I am sure Westjet will change their policy soon enough and charge for ALL instead of just second and so on. We are at their mercy :(

Nahanni
09-02-2011, 05:25 PM
Anyone know if infant car seats are charged checked baggage fees by any airline?

Disney Addicted
09-02-2011, 05:30 PM
The article I read (below - Air Canada) says:

A posting on the company's website Friday informed passengers that it plans to begin charging $25 for the first checked bag and for the first time infants travelling on an adult's lap will also incur the charges if a bag is checked on their behalf. They will, however, still be allowed one car seat and one stroller at no additional cost.

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/Air-Canada-searching-new-capress-1884765693.html?x=0

HeatherLassell
09-02-2011, 07:39 PM
I never fly Air Canada. And I agree that Canadian prices for flights are RIDICULOUS compared to the US.

I will stick with West Jet. So far their website still claims first bag "complimentary" and second bag is $20.

damo
09-02-2011, 07:56 PM
I honestly don't find any difference between any of the air carriers and will fly with whoever is most convenient/cheapest at the time. My criteria varies with the seasons.

I find West Jet more expensive and expect them to follow suit very shortly with the luggage fees.

candygirlIRE
09-02-2011, 07:59 PM
As far as the baby/infants items go... if they are a lapsit then they are allowed no baggage allowance, however you can check TWO baby things free of charge, i.e. 1 stroller and 1 carseat, or 1 carseat and 1 playpen etc....

We will check in a carseat and the playpen in October and then likely pay a fee for the stroller (taking it to the gate), unless we have a super-duper nice westjet employee :goodvibes

(We do not like the playpens/cribs that the hotels provide normally, however we have not tried them with our current hotel...not sure if we want to risk it.)

corster
09-03-2011, 12:57 AM
Well... if anyone is on the fence about booking an Air Canada flight to the US, you have until Wednesday to book it before you'll have to pay baggage fees.

WestJet says on Facebook they're not going to match it. I believe it, to be honest. They'll use it as a marketing advantage, in the short term anyways.

Tower
09-03-2011, 07:48 AM
Booked flights with my Aeroplan miles but they are on United and US Airways out of Buffalo to avoid the already well inflated YYZ departure taxes. Air Canada will get none of my baggage fee money on this one.
Really enjoying living so close to Buffalo :)

damo
09-03-2011, 09:06 AM
Well... if anyone is on the fence about booking an Air Canada flight to the US, you have until Wednesday to book it before you'll have to pay baggage fees.

WestJet says on Facebook they're not going to match it. I believe it, to be honest. They'll use it as a marketing advantage, in the short term anyways.

They can easily just put it in their flight price and not in their fees. I looked for 4 months for flights to Orlando and not once was West Jet cheaper than Air Canada....not even close.

MedicGoofy
09-03-2011, 01:38 PM
How can anyone be surprised about them charging for luggage? They are just starting to do what most other airlines do now. I don't fly with them nor will I fly with them. Living where I do, it is 1/3 of the time to just drive to BUF. Where it's always been cheaper to fly.

Will they ever get better? No. And they don't care. Corporations continue to fly with them and don't care about the prices. My brother flies with them monthly. Several months ago he booked a last minute flight to Ottawa. Paid just over $600 for a ONE DAY flight.....returned the same day. Did the company care?? No. Business flight. Flies them all over Canada. He has to go for business. You see more suits on those flights than any other. It won't change. And they won't care that they have to pay for luggage either. It's no skin of my brothers companies back. They don't even blink when he hands them reciepts. Nor do most big companies. Where it hurts is people, like us, booking trips. Not anyone else.

minnie56
09-03-2011, 03:51 PM
I am not sure it's that Air Canada "don't care" more to do with the fact they are losing millions ..their base fares are't bad..but the tax gouging puts them over the top when comparing.:confused3

MedicGoofy
09-03-2011, 05:31 PM
I am not sure it's that Air Canada "don't care" more to do with the fact they are losing millions ..their base fares are't bad..but the tax gouging puts them over the top when comparing.:confused3


With all due respect, their base fares suck. For a one way ticket to MCO, it would cost me the same as a round trip ticket....that isn't even including their taxes. It is still cheaper for me to drive into the US and get a flight into Canada, if I want to fly out West, or East. The base fare for AC, is absolutely ridiculous. It's that alone that will have me flying with other carriers, and the fact that I'm 30 min from an american airport.

minnie56
09-03-2011, 05:35 PM
Well YOU might be that close to Buffalo and I am 20 minutes to Pearson so it's all relative. And sometimes, when you compare apples to apples...as I did today. Air Canada to Tampa, Fl was $129 each way and Jetblue (which changes in JFK) was $148. Southwest was more. So...I always price shop and sometimes AC is ahead! Till the taxes are factored in anyways...:confused3

MedicGoofy
09-03-2011, 06:10 PM
Base fare into Tampa isn't great either. Depends on when you can fly. I don't plan my vacation around flight prices. I have to plan it around when I have time off. Compare apples to apples?? Say what?? Fly anywhere you want and 90% of the time, AC is going to have a higher price tag. Ive checked AC for most flights that I have taken elsewhere....always comes out higher. Then add your taxes. Base fare is usually, and note usually, higher with them.

Nothing is stopping you from going to the US. It's not a days drive. Its a simple drive from TO. Your not far to save money. And most of the time, you would. Jetblue and Southwest aren't the only american airlines that fly out of BUF. Try Niagara Falls. Cheaper than both of those. And they fly to Tampa for $59.

minnie56
09-03-2011, 06:18 PM
I do always look at Buffalo when booking flights - sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I fly a lot...my DD lives in NYC and I bring her home a lot too. We do Florida at least 4-6 times a year...but I can tell you, sometimes AC is less that Jetblue/Southwest. I am pretty picky whom I fly with ...so I check the ones I am okay with and if they are less, after factoring in gas, airport parking and the border which sometimes is good and sometimes not so...then I go for it. Example: I have a daughter flying home from MCO this Monday via American Airlines into Toronto. It was less than any Buffalo fares she could find. Same day-I am driving to Buffalo to send the other daughter on Jetblue back to NYC because they beat both AC and Porter costs at time of booking. So yes, apples to apples--routes to routes. It has a lot of variables.

papertraveller
09-03-2011, 08:15 PM
This is discouraging. We just got back today from MCO, flew SW through Buffalo. We'll be doing AC again later this fall, for the first time. We live close to Pearson, and for a short trip thought this would make sense.

The truth is we have perpetually frustrated with AC's lines at MCO (let's face it, the resort check in is a wonderful time-saving service). And now they want to charge us more to check in those bags, after waiting for 30 minutes just to get to the podium? Not good.

The key to the issue, I believe, is that as U.S. airlines pared back services (free baggage) they also pared prices. In AC's case, the prices have not been pared at all.

Today as we landed in Buffalo, a child behind us said to grandma: "I thought you hated WestJet."
Grandma: "No, I hate Air Canada, and will never fly with them again."
The entire family then went into a mocking scenario of an AC pilot on the PA system explaining a delay.

Southwest got us in early to MCO, and in early to Buffalo. Bags fly free, as they say.

Ted in Halifax
09-04-2011, 07:01 AM
The key to the issue, I believe, is that as U.S. airlines pared back services (free baggage) they also pared prices. In AC's case, the prices have not been pared at all.


Totally agree. They missed half of the equation. Their move to Bag fees also ties in with AC's move to integrate more with continental/united. Except of course they missed the pared back services and prices ...

Disney Addicted
09-04-2011, 08:03 AM
I'm another that prefers driving into the States rather than paying Air Canada's fees. And I do find WestJet charges more than AirCanada.

Round-trip September 2010 family of 4.
- AirCanada wanted $1,800
- WestJet wanted $2195
- paid JetBlue $637 US (still under $700 CAN!)

$1,100 cheaper!! That was just too huge of a price difference. We drove to Buffalo, stayed overnight with a park & fly, and stayed again overnight on the way back.

Priced out Toronto to LAX Oct 2011 to get an idea of cost for October 2012:
- AirCanada, round-trip, direct flight!, family of 4 = $2,443 (rounded-up) + $340 for 6 suitcases
- WestJet (same details), connecting flights (boo) = $2,901. And that's on a seat sale fare! I would not pay more for a connecting flight when I can get a direct flight cheaper. :confused3

Priced out of Detroit to Lax same as above:
- Delta, round-trip, direct flights, family of 4 = $1,534 (rounded-up) + $340 for 6 suitcases

It's $909 cheaper (treating $ as par) to drive to Detroit. Now we will still have to pay extra gas, parking at the airport, and possibly 1 overnight stay. But I doubt that will eat up the entire $900 savings.

michelle1
09-04-2011, 08:33 AM
I have a friend who is a pilot and he told me that part of the reason for the high cost for flights from Toronto (besides the taxes) is a high airport fee. All airlines pay a fee to fly into an airport and apparently Toronto has one of the highest fees in the world. He said some airlines won't fly into Toronto for that reason.

minnie56
09-04-2011, 04:07 PM
It is true that Pearson has the highest landing fees in the world! Go figure that???? Surely not even in the top 10 airports if you ask me...

:confused3

discnewbie
09-04-2011, 04:13 PM
Whaattt? :headache:

To make sure I am understanding this correctly...so if we are going to WDW in March, but we book tomorrow, we still get a free bag?

damo
09-04-2011, 04:43 PM
Whaattt? :headache:

To make sure I am understanding this correctly...so if we are going to WDW in March, but we book tomorrow, we still get a free bag?

You've got until Sept. 6th to book to not be charged for the bag.

discnewbie
09-04-2011, 04:52 PM
Thanks damo. And I'm guessing the free bag is per person not per group, correct? Would children count as being able to each have one piece of luggage? And... does this include carryon luggage?

Thanks again! I'm still a little ticked AC though.

damo
09-04-2011, 06:14 PM
Thanks damo. And I'm guessing the free bag is per person not per group, correct? Would children count as being able to each have one piece of luggage? And... does this include carryon luggage?

Thanks again! I'm still a little ticked AC though.

It is a bag per person charge. Carryon luggage is fine but remember you are only allowed one piece of carryon luggage and a purse/computer bag.

candygirlIRE
09-04-2011, 06:53 PM
When I did the pricing for our flight in OCT I paid $250 LESS with Westjet than what I would have paid with Air Canada (and that's not adding in the baggage fees - which would have been 1 bag per person x 4 people)....

I know that Westjet sometimes can not be the best, but I will take them for now! :)



Does anyone know if AC charges for baby things (i.e. carseat, stroller, playpen, etc)??

Westjet is allowing 2 baby items - so we may have to pay for a 3rd item (as we are bringing one each of the ones listed above).

discnewbie
09-04-2011, 07:00 PM
It is a bag per person charge. Carryon luggage is fine but remember you are only allowed one piece of carryon luggage and a purse/computer bag.


Thank you again! :goodvibes