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pjynx
08-18-2011, 10:17 PM
DD (12) is incredibly picky. Doesn't like most meats but also has not adopted a true vegetarian menu (mostly because she is too picky to try new things). She also doesn't like much in the way of sauce/seasonings. We've learned to live with it because her doctor isn't concerned and it's not worth fighting with her over food. Most of her meals are a variety of cereal, plain pasta, white rice, bagels, eggs, peanut butter, yogurt, fresh fruit & veggies.

DH & I love Ohana. Would really like to eat there on our upcoming trip but what do we do about dd? There is nothing on the menu that she would eat, not even the noodles or veggies (looks like there is some kind of sauce or flavorings on these?). I know sometimes the restaurant is able to put something together, such as pizza or chicken nuggets, but would they really charge us the $33 for that since she is 12?

Would it be unheard of to feed her at counter-service ahead of time and have her just sit there with us not eating (and not getting charged)? She would play a game on her ipod or something while dh & I eat? Some of you might be aghast at that thought, but believe me.....it wouldn't be the first time it's happened with us. If dh & I like a place well enough, we just feed her first and she brings something to entertain herself while we eat. I wouldn't even care if they charged us a small "no eating" fee. But it certainly wouldn't be worth a full $33 fee.

Any thoughts? I hate to miss Ohana, but I'm at a loss for ideas on dd :confused: Thanks!

eta: she will eat grilled chicken, as long as there is no sauce/seasonings. We have to cut off the out layer (even if it's not skin....the outer layer of meat that was exposed to heat has a different texture). I would be ok with paying the full adult price if they would be able to grill up some chicken special without seasonings. Is that unheard of there?

Nadjalu
08-18-2011, 10:30 PM
Sorry to inform you that even if she doesn't eat anything you will be charged the adult fee for just her being there.

We have run into this issue at Ohana before. My friend (who lives in orlando) likes to visit us during a couple of our resort meals and has joined us twice for Ohana. The first time we didn't know that everyone is charged whether they eat or not and she brought her 11yr old with her. My friend begged and then got upset, but no budging, she still had to pay for her daughter.
The next time she brought her again forgetting what happened (a couple years later). The server offered to prepare her something vegatarian but the girl said she wasn't hungry...and again didn't matter, she was charged the adult price for her sitting there.

I am not sure if they would be willing to prepare her something else. They did offer my friend that option, but it would've been the same charge for the meal. There is no "partial" charge of anything at Ohana or a buffet.

So your only option is to take her and pay, or leave her with a sitting service (I do believe they have them for tweens) if you want to eat there.

Sorry, just being honest. Would hate to see what happened to my friend twice, happen to you.

pixarmom
08-18-2011, 10:54 PM
We have three boys - a pre-schooler and two pre-teens. One of our pre-teens is a very picky eater and orders nearly exclusively from the kids' menus at WDW and elsewhere.

For years, our server at Ohana offered a very extensive kids' menu immediately when we were seated. I've never seen anything in writing - they just asked our kids whether they would like chicken nuggets, mac and cheese, etc. On our last visit, our server did not proactively offer the kids' items, but when we asked if they were available, he gave us a long list of possibilities. Just like everything else, the kids' items were unlimited. Of course, we paid adult price for both of our pre-teens even though one ate the regular meal and the other ate only the kids' items, which is fine.

We switched our Ohana meals to breakfast this year, and our most recent Ohana dinner was last year. Not sure if things have changed since then, but our experiences with a picky eater at Ohana have been great!

cam&phoebsmom
08-18-2011, 10:59 PM
What about having her try some of the things at least (they have very yummy bread, broccoli, and noodles, even though they are not white pasta noodles) I
would not let her spoil where you really want to eat, but at 12 if she refuses to even *try* something new I would have her eat with you or she can pay for it out of her spending money.

pjynx
08-18-2011, 11:22 PM
Thanks everyone for the feedback. Not what I was hoping to hear, but hey, at least I was trying to find a way around it. Not going to make her try just a bite of this & that. She is incredibly stubborn and honestly, her refusal just leads to her & dh being mad at each other the rest of the day. Not going to ruin my vacation over something that we haven't enforced at home and suddenly try it while on vacation. Food wars are just not worth it.

Glad to know the answer ahead of time though!

buzz5985
08-19-2011, 12:07 AM
I was at Boma one night when the table beside us was brought a few special meals for people at the table. We noticed the same thing at the Hoop Dee Doo review.

Call the restaurant and ask if you could just get a boneless breast of chicken with no added fat/spices etc.

If not that - can't you leave her at the kids club?? The Poly has one, it's 11.50/hour, 2 hour minimum, they feed them, there are computers and things for them to use. This way you and DH get a nice enjoyable meal together without the stress.

Janis

pjynx
08-19-2011, 07:24 AM
I was at Boma one night when the table beside us was brought a few special meals for people at the table. We noticed the same thing at the Hoop Dee Doo review.

Call the restaurant and ask if you could just get a boneless breast of chicken with no added fat/spices etc.

If not that - can't you leave her at the kids club?? The Poly has one, it's 11.50/hour, 2 hour minimum, they feed them, there are computers and things for them to use. This way you and DH get a nice enjoyable meal together without the stress.

Janis

I will give that a try (contacting the restaurant to see if they will be willing to make some chicken without anything on it).

Re: the kids club....is that available even for non-resort guests? We're staying offsite this trip.

Thanks again for the suggestions!

KathleensKid
08-19-2011, 07:35 AM
Re: the kids club....is that available even for non-resort guests? We're staying offsite this trip.

Thanks again for the suggestions!

Anyone can use them - ages 4-12. Call for a reservation for the same time as your ADR.

http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/recreation/kids-activities/

TDC Nala
08-19-2011, 07:36 AM
I know sometimes the restaurant is able to put something together, such as pizza or chicken nuggets, but would they really charge us the $33 for that since she is 12?



Yes.

You'll be able to get alternative selections for her if you ask, but without reductions in price.

jcemom
08-19-2011, 10:46 AM
The kids club is available to non-resort guests, but your DD might feel too old for it. I'd ask her what she thinks. My DD is almost 9 and she loves it. It's on her must-do list for every single trip. She enjoys having other kids to hang out with (her brothers are much older, so she's almost an only child). I think she also likes getting away from me for a few hours, lol. DD has been to several of the Disney kids clubs and Neverland at the Poly is her hands-down favorite. :goodvibes

dvcHammer
08-19-2011, 11:07 AM
Get a sitter for the evening and leave the picky eater out.

Simple choice for the child, eat what is available or wait for Mom & Dad to get back from a really nice dinner.

IMHO, Picky eaters are pretty simple to cure. Hunger always wins.

Mrsjvb
08-19-2011, 11:15 AM
Get a sitter for the evening and leave the picky eater out.

Simple choice for the child, eat what is available or wait for Mom & Dad to get back from a really nice dinner.

IMHO, Picky eaters are pretty simple to cure. Hunger always wins.

concur wholeheartedly.

no such thing as a picky eater when I was growing up. you ate what was available/served to you. period. none of this caving to a stubborn child's orneriness. she doesn't wanna eat, fine. she can starve and then pay for whatever she likes out of her own money later since Mum and dad already paid for Ohana.

Minnesota!
08-19-2011, 01:05 PM
Kids Club - my kids love them and you guys can enjoy your meal :)

Kricketnp
08-19-2011, 01:11 PM
My sister is 16 and an extremely picky vegetarian eater. When we went to Ohana last summer, my parents ordered her Macaroni and cheese in advance and were only charged for that dish. They didn't have to pay for her as an adult since she wasn't eating any of the other food.

tammz
08-19-2011, 08:28 PM
sending her to the kids club will cost about the same wont it? so why not bring her to a great dining experience and have a "special" item made for her (nuggets Grill cheese, PBand J ) even If you do pay full price either way its gonna cost about $30 I wont even comment on her picky eating status as I am 35 and am one of the most picky eaters in the world :confused3 so is my 4 yr old! I am having a horrible time trying to find restaurants that both of us can find something enjoyable to eat :rotfl2: Hope it all goes well

MickeyNicki
08-19-2011, 09:27 PM
The time we ate at Ohana there was a mother and young daughter next to us and the waiter told the mom the daughter could get an Uncrustable or a grilled cheese sandwich.

pjynx
08-19-2011, 09:56 PM
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. We really don't want to put her at the kids club, as she is a little old to be left with a sitter.

I made a reservation and I plan to contact them ahead to time to give them a head's up and find out our options (chicken, veggies & noodles without seasonings on them or grilled cheese or pb&J). I figure even if it's a pb&J at the full adult menu, it'd be no different than if she loved their menu and she ate what we ate (meaning, she'll be just as full, so who cares what it actually is).

I'm just glad to know that they are good about offering alternate meal choices! Thanks again for the replies.

si-am
08-19-2011, 10:06 PM
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. We really don't want to put her at the kids club, as she is a little old to be left with a sitter.

I made a reservation and I plan to contact them ahead to time to give them a head's up and find out our options (chicken, veggies & noodles without seasonings on them or grilled cheese or pb&J). I figure even if it's a pb&J at the full adult menu, it'd be no different than if she loved their menu and she ate what we ate (meaning, she'll be just as full, so who cares what it actually is).

I'm just glad to know that they are good about offering alternate meal choices! Thanks again for the replies.

Eh, at 12 if she's still being so picky that she is ruining your dining plans, then maybe going to a kid's club would be a good "lesson." ;)

Maybe Ohana will be able to work with you though.

Woodcourt
08-19-2011, 11:46 PM
Our kids have very severe allergies to eggs, nuts and seafoof and we were nervous about Ohana...however..it was one of our favorites for the kids. They brought us white rice, steamed and unseasoned broccoli and plain chicken. They were wonderful.

Also...my nephew is a very picky eater and most all of the restaurants we went to with them...the chefs were accomodating as best they could. Plain noodles was always a big hit!

pjynx
08-20-2011, 09:53 AM
I would not let her spoil where you really want to eat, but at 12 if she refuses to even *try* something new I would have her eat with you or she can pay for it out of her spending money.

IMHO, Picky eaters are pretty simple to cure. Hunger always wins.

no such thing as a picky eater when I was growing up. you ate what was available/served to you. period. none of this caving to a stubborn child's orneriness. she doesn't wanna eat, fine. she can starve and then pay for whatever she likes out of her own money later since Mum and dad already paid for Ohana.

Eh, at 12 if she's still being so picky that she is ruining your dining plans, then maybe going to a kid's club would be a good "lesson." ;)

Maybe Ohana will be able to work with you though.

This is SO not about teaching her a lesson. She is picky. She also has some "texture" issues (which started as young as an infant....for example, she gagged on jarred baby food. I had to grind our own baby food because jarred was too weird for her). She also has anxiety issues, which then causes stomach problems. She has a hard time controlling her anxiety and when she feels "out of control" about things, she uses food as her control mechanism (meaning SHE wants to choose what to eat, not be FORCED to try something). If letting her choose her own food makes her less anxious because it helps put HER in control, I'm all for it. I refuse to make a battle over food choices. It's just not worth it. Have you ever dealt with a child who gets so worked up over anxiety issues that she spends the better part of a day in tears with stomach problems and sitting on the toilet because she feels so rotten?

Honestly, I can't believe how many people have come on this thread to tell me how "picky eaters don't exist in our house" or that I should make her pay for her own food. :sad2: I didn't come here looking for parenting lesson. We do what works for our family. Geeesh!

I asked for advice on how far the restaurants are willing to go to accommodate special requests. Thank you to those who gave me that information and didn't criticize my parenting skills at the same time.

pjynx
08-20-2011, 09:55 AM
Our kids have very severe allergies to eggs, nuts and seafoof and we were nervous about Ohana...however..it was one of our favorites for the kids. They brought us white rice, steamed and unseasoned broccoli and plain chicken. They were wonderful.

This sounds perfect! All stuff she will eat. Thank you! Did you contact them ahead of time to get this option or just let them know when you arrived?

Mrsjvb
08-20-2011, 09:59 AM
It's just not worth it. Have you ever dealt with a child who gets so worked up over anxiety issues that she spends the better part of a day in tears with stomach problems and sitting on the toilet because she feels so rotten?





yes.. ME daily over the last 36 months due to the military sending my husband 7000 miles away and me not being allowed to go with him. I have major mental ( and physical) health issues and yes my stomach rebels on a regular basis


she needs to find another coping mechanism.. using food is a sure fire way to end up with lifetime health issues.. obesity, anorexia, bulimia. and a whole host of other nutritionally deficient illnesses.

pjynx
08-20-2011, 10:03 AM
she needs to find another coping mechanism.. using food is a sure fire way to end up with lifetime health issues.. obesity, anorexia, bulimia. and a whole host of other nutritionally deficient illnesses.

Which is why I refuse to make a huge deal over food issues. I will not create a battle over it for fear that it will create bigger problems such as obesity, anorexia, bulemia, etc. To me, those are worse things than liking very plain, non-spiced, non-sauced foods.

To each his own I guess.
Again, thank you to everyone who gave me useful information that answered my OP.

cbg1027
08-20-2011, 10:05 AM
I'm not trying to be one those posters who tells you how to parent, but I did have a suggestion...don't want it to come across as telling you how to parent though.

Since 'Ohana is family style and you are served many foods, why don't you try getting all the regular foods and seeing if your daughter would try those? Give her the choice of all the stuff on the table, but not tell her she has to eat any particular item? See if she tries any of those foods?

If by the time the meats come around and she hasn't tasted anything, then you could order her something special if she hasn't eaten anything yet.

That way she isn't being forced in to anything - she is presented with a selection and can try what she wants from it.

pjynx
08-20-2011, 10:16 AM
I'm not trying to be one those posters who tells you how to parent, but I did have a suggestion...don't want it to come across as telling you how to parent though.

Since 'Ohana is family style and you are served many foods, why don't you try getting all the regular foods and seeing if your daughter would try those? Give her the choice of all the stuff on the table, but not tell her she has to eat any particular item? See if she tries any of those foods?

If by the time the meats come around and she hasn't tasted anything, then you could order her something special if she hasn't eaten anything yet.

That way she isn't being forced in to anything - she is presented with a selection and can try what she wants from it.

I plan to ask about getting special foods right when we check in (or at least when we get seated). That way they will have time to prepare it and she can eat at the same time as us rather than us eating while she waits for specially prepared food. That will also give her the comfort of knowing that we're not going to try to make her eat the standard food and only order hers as a last resort. Less pressure. She is very likely to try a bite of one or two things if we don't make a big deal if it (ie: it needs to be HER idea, not someone encouraging her to do it).

Thanks for understanding where I'm coming from :thumbsup2

brymolmom
08-20-2011, 10:20 AM
Thanks everyone for the feedback. Not what I was hoping to hear, but hey, at least I was trying to find a way around it. Not going to make her try just a bite of this & that. She is incredibly stubborn and honestly, her refusal just leads to her & dh being mad at each other the rest of the day. Not going to ruin my vacation over something that we haven't enforced at home and suddenly try it while on vacation. Food wars are just not worth it.

Glad to know the answer ahead of time though!

Probably your best bet, especially if it might lead to arguments....I have a picky dd and I try to set it up like I would at home - we wouldn't go to a Thai restaurant here because she won't eat Thai and I can't imagine going in and asking the server to bend over backwards to produce something she would eat. Why would we have gone in there knowing what's on the menu if we wanted something else - why wouldn't we have just gone to the place down the street that has it? I consider it our own issue and don't want to inconvenience anyone else with it.

That said, we never/rarely allow her pickiness to stop us from trying a COUPLE of places that we want to eat on each trip (not every single one, but she can deal with a couple). I prepare her before we go (she's 7) and tell her what the options are and that if she doesn't want to eat, that's fine, but she'll have to eat something before we go in and wait patiently for us.

It's much easier to do buffets - lots for both of us to choose from and my dd usually decides to eat a bit of things rather than sit there hungry.

And in the case like yours - you should choose a nicer place that has an a la carte menu - that way you won't have to pay for her if she chooses not to eat.

Or, SINCE it's vacation - you could always bend the rules and allow her to eat 'dessert for dinner' or something like that! At least she'll get something in her belly and once in a while on vacation it doesn't hurt.

LlamaMamaof2
08-20-2011, 10:28 AM
I took my picky kids here and they basically ate nothing. They did like the place, but not the food! We came, we saw, we won't go back!! My kids are picky too and I am ok with that. Good luck!

brymolmom
08-20-2011, 10:36 AM
Our kids have very severe allergies to eggs, nuts and seafoof and we were nervous about Ohana...however..it was one of our favorites for the kids. They brought us white rice, steamed and unseasoned broccoli and plain chicken. They were wonderful.

Also...my nephew is a very picky eater and most all of the restaurants we went to with them...the chefs were accomodating as best they could. Plain noodles was always a big hit!


Sorry, but IMO having a child with an allergy and having a picky child are two different things and I could never imagine asking a server/restaurant to go to that extent just to cater to my picky daughter.

THis child (and my picky dd as well) won't eat what's there....your child CAN'T eat what's there...that is a HUGE difference. What if everyone who entered the restaurant started asking for special requests...I want a burger, ds wants a piece of pizza, dd wants a taco...dh wants....You can see where this is going. I totally agree with a restaurant making exceptions for medical conditions but I don't agree with a parent asking for exceptions for non-medical conditions.

wish*i*was*in*the*vi
08-20-2011, 10:47 AM
concur wholeheartedly.

no such thing as a picky eater when I was growing up. you ate what was available/served to you. period. none of this caving to a stubborn child's orneriness. she doesn't wanna eat, fine. she can starve and then pay for whatever she likes out of her own money later since Mum and dad already paid for Ohana.

Same here, and while I have been guilty myself of allowing my children to have alternative things to eat, those days are long gone. Theres not one single day when I was growing up that if I didn't like what was for dinner there was an alternate choice. You ate it or....you didn't.

TDC Nala
08-20-2011, 10:54 AM
Please stick to the topic about ordering alternatives at 'Ohana, as this isn't a board about parenting issues.