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Jeff in BigD
10-13-2002, 05:09 PM
This was posted by someone else on the CB & rather than have you guys go through a labrynth of links, I'll just post the info...

Disney has a web page asking if you'd like to see Song Of The South come to VHS or DVD.

The actually voting window is a java window, so I don't think I'd be able to link it directly, so just click on the link to the left that reads, "This title is not currently for sale by Walt Disney Home Entertainment. If you would like to see Disney release this in the future on video and DVD, click here to let us know."

Tell Disney You Want Song Of The South Released! (http://psc.disney.go.com/disneyvideos/moviefinder/products/0153103.html)

DVCDAVE
10-13-2002, 06:47 PM
I clicked on the link that you pointed out, and all I got was a message that says, can't find server. I think its a dead link. I tried to open it in a new window, and I noticed the url: is a java script.

I don't think it is working.

Micca
10-13-2002, 06:53 PM
Thanks Jeff. My vote has been cast. Should I have mentioned that I already own a pirate copy;)

Banzai
10-13-2002, 07:07 PM
I think I signed this a while ago....

marc
10-13-2002, 07:10 PM
DVCDAVE,
I had the same problem, but then I tried again and it came up OK.
maybe their site is getting too many hits at once.

Brewcitygirl
10-13-2002, 08:24 PM
That is the first movie I remember seeing. Even though there may be some public outrage by African-Americans. I think it should be out again. After all it is a part of history and what we don't learn from history we repeat.


I loved that movie!!!


:Pinkbounc :bounce:

Obi-Wan Pinobi
10-13-2002, 09:37 PM
Well, I hope my e-mail went through. I clicked on "send" three times and never saw any progress line or anything saying "thank you, your e-mail has been sent".

An anecdote I shared in the e-mail -- I was at WDW earlier this year and overheard a young boy telling his younger brother about Brer Rabbit and Brer Fox. What made this memorable to me was that the two children in question were black.

Pete W.
10-14-2002, 06:45 AM
...is available at http://www.songofthesouth.net/video/. People are now paying $165 or more for copies of the movie converted to NTSC format (for play on North American VCRs).

I was lucky enough to find it last year on Amazon.com/UK for list price (around $25 U.S.) then I had it converted to NTSC format for another $40 or so. Looks like you can no longer do this as Disney has stopped distributing the movie world-wide.

d-r
10-14-2002, 09:45 AM
That has been there for months.

Pete W.
10-14-2002, 10:50 AM
What 'has been there for months' and why do you assume everyone has seen it?

DisneyJack
10-14-2002, 11:31 AM
The same "let us know" link is, and always has been included on the page for any Disney movie that is currently out of print. I can only hope that someone is tallying the results, and that action will be taken. But since I would assume that SOTS would be one the highest feedback generators of all, and that there is no sign that it is to be released, I'm not holding out a lot of hope. Now if only my feedback for Snowball Express is heard...

Pete W.
10-14-2002, 01:06 PM
I wonder if Disney's recent (Dec. '01) decision to pull SotS from world-wide distribution is a sign that it will never be released again. Or perhaps they are considering a new release (in the past there was talk of a special edition which would include a message from a prominent black American like James Earl Jones).

grinningghost
10-14-2002, 01:45 PM
My question has always been, why did they base an attraction on Song of the South, if legions of WDW visitors have never even seen the movie? It's pretty weird if you think about it. My daughter hasn't a clue what Song of the South is, but she loves Splash Mountain. It only makes sense to release it on video. It's a great old movie.

Bob O
10-14-2002, 01:59 PM
Disney under their current regime is too pc to release the movie!! But it should be released inits entirety and without any type of message from a prominent person of any racial group!!! Put the movie out their and let the people see it and decide on their own what they think of it and dont try too placate any group. They will never be happy and will complain it didnt go far enough.

DVCDAVE
10-14-2002, 02:02 PM
In reality, Splash Mountain is based on the best selling book The Tales of Brer Rabbit. Song of the South is too, to a large degree. I went out and bought the book and read it to my kids because they liked Splash Mountain soo much. It's a tuff book to read, (both silently and out loud) as it is written in the venacular (southern drawl). But, after a few short chapters, you get used to it. Sometimes, we had to stop reading as itgot so funny we couldn't stop laughing.

DVCDAVE
10-14-2002, 02:09 PM
In reality, Splash Mountain is based on the best selling book The Tales of Brer Rabbit. Song of the South is too, to a large degree. I went out and bought the book and read it to my kids because they liked Splash Mountain soo much. It's a tuff book to read, (both silently and out loud) as it is written in the venacular (southern drawl). But, after a few short chapters, you get used to it. Sometimes, we had to stop reading as itgot so funny we couldn't stop laughing.

J.P.
10-14-2002, 02:15 PM
i tried to reach the link and could not. but i would love to see it on DVD. J.P.

gary403
10-14-2002, 03:04 PM
To me Song of the South is one of the best movies Disney has ever released!!!

grinningghost
10-14-2002, 04:21 PM
I have to agree with Bob. Release it and let it be. There will always be someone complaining about something, why must we let that rule every little thing? If it was good enough for movie goers in the 40's, it should be good enough for us. All this PC garbage is getting out of hand.

scooby-the-doo
10-14-2002, 05:26 PM
Not only is it a great movie, but it is a double Oscar winner -- it is a historically important film. This current climate of political correctness and, taking this to its critical mass, the nonsense of rewarding blacks who may or may not have been a decendant of slaves, does not lead me to think we will see it anytime soon.

RRBB
10-14-2002, 09:39 PM
I would LOVE to see this movie out on DVD. But we are lucky. DH found it on Laser Disc several years ago. It's a Japanese import that has both English and Japanese versions for the dialog. All the songs, however, are in English with Japanese subtitles.

jlima
10-15-2002, 01:21 AM
RRBB, we have this laser disc set too! I have to mention the bouncing Mickey head over the Japanese lettering during the songs, just like a regular sing a long video . . . I wasn't expecting it the first time I saw this on laser disc and it's a hoot! I'm glad we have this for our kids to see; we got it at Record City here in Las Vegas. It wasn't cheap but I'm glad we have it.

:Pinkbounc

d-r
10-15-2002, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by Pete W.
What 'has been there for months' and why do you assume everyone has seen it?

1. Because it has been posted on this board

2. My point wasn't assuming that people have seen it, it was assuming that people haven't seen it - i.e. telling people that this isn't something new to get excited about.

Mooobooks
10-15-2002, 11:02 PM
Has anyone else heard the wacky rumor that Bill Cosby now owns the rights to "Song of the South" and swears it will never be released?

Lady Cluck
10-19-2002, 02:33 PM
Although the tone of the movie may no longer be PC, I feel our society in general is more enlightened about the evils of slavery, and hopefully, more tolerant of disparate views on the subject. I think school children of any race should be taught about this shameful episode in our history. Sweeping it under the carpet is not the answer.

Disney could reasonably consider releasing the movie again. This time, perhaps they might include a prologue denouncing the practice of slavery. I feel certain the original intent of the book author and movie script writers was not to endorse or condone the attitudes of our slave holding forefathers.

With that said, the movie is entertaining, if a little slow in some parts. The animation and Uncle Remus sequences are delightful. I was able to pick up a black market VHS at a local flea market (I know, my bad), and have seen vendors selling them at science fiction type conventions.

I could not find any references to "the ***" being involved with this movie, but did find an urban legends site at about.com discussing related issues:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/cs/disney/index.htm

scooby-the-doo
10-19-2002, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Lady Cluck

This time, perhaps they might include a prologue denouncing the practice of slavery.

It is not Disney's place nor responsibility to place a trite prologue denouncing or apolgising for anything that they were not responsible for. The film is a piece of art, treat it as such.

Lady Cluck
10-19-2002, 07:59 PM
I'm sorry to disagree with you, scooby-the-doo. As we have seen from other threads on the boards, Song of the South contains issues so controversial, that books with similar subject matter about same era (i.e. Uncle Tom's Cabin and Huck Finn) have been banned from some schools.

** IF ** Disney were to re-release this film without some sort of commentary about the change of mores since the original release date, the backlash may prove very devisive with those who are sensitive about such things. I'm not one, but am aware of those who are.

The earning potential of the movie in re-release, could certainly be weighed unfavorably against the possibility of bad publicity, and damage to the all-encompassing family friendly Disney image.

On the other hand, to quote Billy Joel, "You may be right, I may be :crazy: ". Enlightened viewers may recognize the film as a work of art, open to interpretation. The storm could just blow over without much fuss or :mad:

hopemax
10-19-2002, 08:58 PM
The obvious, IMHO anyway, answer is to make it a Walt Disney Treasures release. Those are limited to 150,000 copies and not marketed to the "masses at large" but Disney fanatics. And the WDT have so many other "extras" that a commentary covering the societal issues shouldn't be off-putting to the people who don't feel anything is necessary, but still appease the people who think it's necessary. Next year (2003) release is supposed to include the WWII shorts/ Victory through Air Power, which is another "touchy, is this really appropriate for impressionable children" subject, perhaps Disney plans to use that as a barometer.

Jeff in BigD
10-20-2002, 02:45 AM
I agree that it shouldn't be tacked onto the film itself, but if they want to do a bonus segment with a blurb about "slavery bad! yada-yada..." then that's fine with me. I don't recall Gone With The Wind requiring any disclaimers. I tend to view the movie from start to finish as a piece of history & art.

Just as I wouldn't want someone in charge of works by Dali or Monet posthumously making excuses or disclaimers for their work stapled onto the canvas, I don't think the works of the animators should be altered to satisfy a percentage of the population. Perhaps Michelangelo's statue of David should have a drape around it & a bouncer checking IDs, because *gasp* you can see his pee-pee?! :eek: ;)