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Just*the*ten*of*us
07-19-2011, 12:46 PM
Ok, so I usually try to solve any questions I have by searching the boards, and that usually works great for me, but I really need the help of some expert DISers, here. If this is in the wrong spot, by all means, move me. Were leaving on the 24th of Sept 8 days, 9 nights, 2 adults, 8 children, at Pop and our total, with the basic dining upgrade, in a standard room is $5084. Now as far as I know, and I've only booked with Disney directly, this is the best deal I could wrangle. IS THIS THE BEST DEAL I CAN GET? Some things have come up, and our budget will be tighter than hoped and Im open to all options to save money. I have considered taking off the hopper/WP, but cant take off the dining (I know, I know) I know people buy tickets seperately and such, and I was just wondering if that might make a difference? Thanks in advance, if I cant respond right away its because I had to go to the grocery store...apparently life goes on outside of Disney vacation planning?????:confused3

GinnyEmma
07-19-2011, 12:50 PM
I don't know. What property? Or are you unwilling to look at a different room idea with the plan?

Just*the*ten*of*us
07-19-2011, 12:56 PM
I don't know. What property? Or are you unwilling to look at a different room idea with the plan?

Oh jeez, that would have helped, huh? :laughing: Were staying at Pop. Thanks for pointing that out.

RachaelA
07-19-2011, 01:04 PM
Wait so you have free quick service dining and upgraded to regular? If so, you can downgrade back to the free quick service. Or if you are paying for the regular dining plan you can downgrade to the quick service plan. That way on top of saving on the plan, you are also saving on tips.

Honestly buying tickets from Undercover Tourist (really the only non-Disney places you can legitimate tickets from) isn't going to save you that much per ticket.

I would definitely take off either the park hopper or the Water Park and More options. If you have off both, you can save a ton since you are buying so many tickets.

GinnyEmma
07-19-2011, 01:05 PM
Ok, so is that three rooms that we have to work with or are two crib size?

laurafergie
07-19-2011, 01:09 PM
With 10 people you need three rooms at the Pop. Have you priced out rooms at a Mod, like POR for just two rooms? (5 in each room)

With the move to a mod, your upgrade to the DDP is included and is not a separate charge, as you will arrive during the free dining promotion.

You can't keep your dining package and buy tickets separately. Free dining is a much better deal, than the small savings on the tickets.

Since you staying for 8 days, I would totally lose the hoppers. That's like $50 a person right there.

My2BabiesLexis&Dill
07-19-2011, 01:11 PM
Since there are 10 of ya, how many rooms will you have? How old are the children? Do you have anything you can sell on craigslist or in the newspaper? Can you cut your cable/cell phone/internet bill until after your trip?

The only other way to save money is to book a home off site and buy your tickets online and fix your meals at your rental home.

Good luck!

Just*the*ten*of*us
07-19-2011, 01:13 PM
Wait so you have free quick service dining and upgraded to regular? If so, you can downgrade back to the free quick service. Or if you are paying for the regular dining plan you can downgrade to the quick service plan. That way on top of saving on the plan, you are also saving on tips.

I would definitely take off either the park hopper or the Water Park and More options. If you have off both, you can save a ton since you are buying so many tickets. Yes, we have free QS and upgraded to regular. Were likely only doing 2 table service, and one is HDDR, so we would be paying well over $500 just for that meal alone OOP, so when I do the math, it actually saves money to just upgrade, KWIM? lol can you tell I've racked my brain for days now. I think I like the idea of taking the hopper off. It might take some time to re-arrange our schedule, but if it makes a big difference, its worth it! Thanks

Ok, so is that three rooms that we have to work with or are two crib size? Yep, this is our last year of 2 rooms with a crib. Next year we'll have to do 3 rooms.

Just*the*ten*of*us
07-19-2011, 01:19 PM
With 10 people you need three rooms at the Pop. Have you priced out rooms at a Mod, like POR for just two rooms? (5 in each room)

With the move to a mod, your upgrade to the DDP is included and is not a separate charge, as you will arrive during the free dining promotion.

You can't keep your dining package and buy tickets separately. Free dining is a much better deal, than the small savings on the tickets.

Since you staying for 8 days, I would totally lose the hoppers. That's like $50 a person right there.

2 of our kids are still under 2, so technically we still can fit into 2 rooms, but I definitely think Ill drop the hoppers. I tried to price a mod for the same time, but online reservations are showing me they are booked.

Shelly F - Ohio
07-19-2011, 01:22 PM
Have you priced the family suites at the Music Resorts? They sleep 6 have two bathrooms and kitchenett.

GinnyEmma
07-19-2011, 01:23 PM
Bummer! :). How much more was it at the mod? When you subtract the surcharge? My apologies if I missed it. Only have the telephone screen! The extra fees square feet would be nice.

Anyway, I'd drop the parkhoppers. With littles it is a pain. And a nice savings.

My2BabiesLexis&Dill
07-19-2011, 01:25 PM
I would drop the park hoppers for sure. That will save you allot there. Also, I would call Disney to see if they have any moderates available.

ccgirl
07-19-2011, 01:26 PM
Have you tried to rent points for DVC? That way you could do food delivery and eat some meals in the room? I *think* since 2 are under 2 that you may be able to get a 2BR but I'm not positive on that. Do you drive or are you flying? If you are already driving, I would probably rent a house and stay off site to save a boat load of money. Just pay for those 2 meals OOP and eat breakfast at your house, and bring in lunch. Else, that is probably the cheapest way to stay on site. You can drop the PH, as others have suggested, and the WP&More if you need to but it sounds like that is the only wiggle room if you want to stay on site. How old are your other children?

cglaura
07-19-2011, 01:28 PM
Just in case you didn't know, you can add hopper option at any point in your trip, you don't have to decide now. However, it will cost the same whether the first day or the last.

I always leave it off, that way if it turns out we are fine without then I didn't waste the money.

buzz2400
07-19-2011, 01:30 PM
I would drop the park hopper. Having that many kids it won't be that easy to park hop. We stopped getting it and didn't miss it. This past trip we had it because it was included in the annual passes and I believe you really do more walking when you park hop.

I would also try to downgrade to quick service. If you have table service you have to remember that you have to tip. You also have to plan ahead (if this is free dining time) and make reservations because things fill up.

RachaelA
07-19-2011, 02:44 PM
Yes, we have free QS and upgraded to regular. Were likely only doing 2 table service, and one is HDDR, so we would be paying well over $500 just for that meal alone OOP, so when I do the math, it actually saves money to just upgrade, KWIM? lol can you tell I've racked my brain for days now. I think I like the idea of taking the hopper off. It might take some time to re-arrange our schedule, but if it makes a big difference, its worth it! Thanks

Yep, this is our last year of 2 rooms with a crib. Next year we'll have to do 3 rooms.

Well if you have the basic dining plan and you are there for 8 days/7 nights, you will have to do more than 2 TS. You will only be using 3 TS credits per person out of 8 so what are you planning on doing with the other 5? Plus you need to tip on all TS meals. Make sure you plan on all those tips (though I think its included at HDDR)! Tips for 10 will probably be a lot!

Have fun!

labdogs42
07-19-2011, 02:57 PM
I'd definitely skip the water park add on and maybe downgrade to the Quick Service meal plan (although, that doesn't give you any food for the two little ones who could technically eat off your plate at TS buffetts). I'd probably also skip HDD and do two TS meals if you do the upgraded plan. It is almost never worth it to do a 2TS meal on the dining plan.

HeatherC
07-19-2011, 02:58 PM
Are you flying or driving? Are you totally opposed to offsite?

Reason I am asking is that you can stay at Bonnet Creek in a two bedroom, have two full bathrooms, full kitchen, multiple tvs and pretty much still be on Disney property...but not technically and pay about $120 a night including all taxes.

You could then eat breakfast in your jammies, bring in some snacks or lunch and eat dinner back at the villa and save a lot of money. It is located right next door to the Caribbean Beach Resort.

This would also allow you to put the little ones to bed in one bedroom and hang out in the living room and dining area as well as another bedroom.

The resort is goregous with mutiple lazy rivers, pools, hot tubs, free mini golf, grills, etc..

Just another option if money is tight. I don5 think you would be disappointed in the resort. It really is the best deal around.

HeatherC
07-19-2011, 03:00 PM
You could also price tickets separately through Undercover Tourist to compare savings.

Gr8t Fan
07-19-2011, 03:11 PM
Yes, we have free QS and upgraded to regular. Were likely only doing 2 table service, and one is HDDR, so we would be paying well over $500 just for that meal alone OOP, so when I do the math, it actually saves money to just upgrade, KWIM? lol can you tell I've racked my brain for days now. I think I like the idea of taking the hopper off. It might take some time to re-arrange our schedule, but if it makes a big difference, its worth it! Thanks

Yep, this is our last year of 2 rooms with a crib. Next year we'll have to do 3 rooms.

Well if you have the basic dining plan and you are there for 8 days/7 nights, you will have to do more than 2 TS. You will only be using 3 TS credits per person out of 8 so what are you planning on doing with the other 5? Plus you need to tip on all TS meals. Make sure you plan on all those tips (though I think its included at HDDR)! Tips for 10 will probably be a lot!

Have fun!

Or you can stick to QS for the rest of the week, having already gotten your $$ worth on the upgrade to the regular DDP by doing HDDR. If you are looking for a TS recommendation, dinner at Kona Cafe is one of our all-time favorites. The hopper option is about $50 per ticket, so it really adds up on 8 tickets. Have a great trip!!!!

HS3kids
07-19-2011, 03:27 PM
Have to chime in that I would also downgrade dining and lose the hoppers. Also if you are doing the Hoop Dee Doo, if you want to use the dining plan credits, you can, but you are limited in where you sit and/or what time you go. We opted to pay OOP for HDDR so we could go when we wanted and get good seats. So jealous, cant wait to go back to the World! have fun! :goodvibes

crashbb
07-19-2011, 03:33 PM
Or you can stick to QS for the rest of the week, having already gotten your $$ worth on the upgrade to the regular DDP by doing HDDR. If you are looking for a TS recommendation, dinner at Kona Cafe is one of our all-time favorites. The hopper option is about $50 per ticket, so it really adds up on 8 tickets. Have a great trip!!!!

Except that not all QS locations will allow you to use a TS to eat there. They are more likely to do so during Free Dining and in the parks, but there is always the chance that they won't be allowed to do so.

RachaelA
07-19-2011, 03:39 PM
Except that not all QS locations will allow you to use a TS to eat there. They are more likely to do so during Free Dining and in the parks, but there is always the chance that they won't be allowed to do so.

Agree.

Gr8t fan, on the DDP you need to use TS credits for TS meals. TS meals= tips.

Gr8t Fan
07-19-2011, 04:42 PM
Except that not all QS locations will allow you to use a TS to eat there. They are more likely to do so during Free Dining and in the parks, but there is always the chance that they won't be allowed to do so.

Agree.

Gr8t fan, on the DDP you need to use TS credits for TS meals. TS meals= tips.

I've never been turned down when redeeming TS for QS meals in 5 trips with the DDP, sometimes free and sometimes paid. It has caused some confusion at some QS places because the CM wasn't sure how to ring the order, but they've called someone over and resolved the issue. Of course, as with anything, YMMV, and you may not want the hassle while on vacation of having to call someone over to approve the exchange of credits.

RachaelA
07-19-2011, 06:02 PM
I've never been turned down when redeeming TS for QS meals in 5 trips with the DDP, sometimes free and sometimes paid. It has caused some confusion at some QS places because the CM wasn't sure how to ring the order, but they've called someone over and resolved the issue. Of course, as with anything, YMMV, and you may not want the hassle while on vacation of having to call someone over to approve the exchange of credits.

Ohhh interesting! So I mentioned this post to DH and he reminded me that on our honeymoon, he traded 2 TS meals for a bunch of snacks. I had gotten sick our last morning and we missed our last TS lunch. So I guess it can be done!

Just*the*ten*of*us
07-19-2011, 06:10 PM
Except that not all QS locations will allow you to use a TS to eat there. They are more likely to do so during Free Dining and in the parks, but there is always the chance that they won't be allowed to do so.
WHAA?? Ugh, I didnt think that would be a problem!!

mom2cookies
07-19-2011, 06:11 PM
lose the hoppers. go back to counter service

mrsklamc
07-19-2011, 06:20 PM
1. See if tickets are available for your dates from the YES program. http://www.disneyyouth.com/individual-enrollment/catalog/

2. Stay offsite at a pool home. We had a party of 11 in January and I can't imagine how crazy it would have been had we all crammed in hotel rooms. Windsor Hills is a popular, close development; we stayed at Romancing The Mouse and it was great.

Just*the*ten*of*us
07-19-2011, 06:21 PM
Thanks to everyone for all the responses. I think the hopper and the water park will go. I dont have a (huge) problem with letting them go. The dining upgrade, I am disappointed to hear I might have trouble redeeming TS ceredits for QS, because really with a party of 10, even if I were to only do the 2 TS meals, it would be a savings. If I remember correctly just for HDDR, its in the area of $550 for dinner. Plus I have a res. for Ohana I'd like to keep. Mathematically, since we are only paying $500 (this is what the Cm calculated)for the upgrade, it would be cheaper to get the upgrade than get the QS And pay OOP, know what I mean? Originally, months ago when we booked we were going to Deluxe DP, but aside from it just being too much for the kids, my husband and I calculated at least $1000 JUST IN TIPS. well that aint happenin.:scared1:

Just*the*ten*of*us
07-19-2011, 06:39 PM
Since there are 10 of ya, how many rooms will you have? How old are the children? Do you have anything you can sell on craigslist or in the newspaper? Can you cut your cable/cell phone/internet bill until after your trip?

The only other way to save money is to book a home off site and buy your tickets online and fix your meals at your rental home.

Good luck!

Have you priced the family suites at the Music Resorts? They sleep 6 have two bathrooms and kitchenett.

We will have 2 standard rooms at pop (which I just called to take off the hoppers and WP and found out I was paying for preferred, so there went another few hundred off) and the kids ages are 1,2,4,5,6,10, 12 and 12.....thats 8 right?:lmao: We have definitely sized down our budget..were even recycling cans for cash. (hey whatever get us there lol) Shelly, we would still need 2 of them, so it would still be a bit more than POP think.

crashbb
07-19-2011, 06:43 PM
WHAA?? Ugh, I didnt think that would be a problem!!

We were refused at Hurricane Hannahs (that place at the Beach Club - may have the name wrong) and somewhere in AK (don't remember which one).

RachaelA
07-19-2011, 07:54 PM
I honestly think if you need to save money, you drop HDDR and Ohana and downgrade back to the free quick service plan. Do you really want to spend a good amount of time on vacation trying to find a place that will accept TS credits for QS? If you have trouble, finding a TS reservation for 10 is going to be practically impossible during free dining plus you'll then have to pay the tip.

My2BabiesLexis&Dill
07-20-2011, 06:39 AM
Have you tried looking online or calling to see if you can find ressies for your table service credits?

ancestry
07-20-2011, 06:50 AM
I honestly think if you need to save money, you drop HDDR and Ohana and downgrade back to the free quick service plan. Do you really want to spend a good amount of time on vacation trying to find a place that will accept TS credits for QS? If you have trouble, finding a TS reservation for 10 is going to be practically impossible during free dining plus you'll then have to pay the tip.

I completely agree with this. Drop the TS and drop down on the dining plan. The QS is much easier with a group of kids.

sk!mom
07-20-2011, 08:32 AM
We have not had Park Hoppers since they started charging for it and we don't miss it. Planning actually seems easier without it. I can't even imagine hopping with such a large family.

On the other hand the Water Park option seems to be a fairly good deal especially on a longer trip. On our last 10 day trip, we had it and went to DQ two or three times and to the Water Parks several times. If you'll go several times, I'd keep it over the other extras.

We like to have one TS per day but I would not pay for the upgraded dining plan if I didn't even plan on using all of the credits. Remember you'll save the upgrade cost plus the cost of tips.

In your position, I'd call and find out the potential savings of dropping the dining upgrade and the hoppers. If that's not enough, then I'd drop the Water park option, too.

Gr8t Fan
07-20-2011, 09:17 AM
I'd definitely keep the upgrade to the regular DDP for the two TS meals you mentioned because the upgrade cost is basically a wash. The way the TS to CS exchange works is this, you have to use all of your CS credits up before they will exchange TS for CS, but then you shouldn't have a problem. You may get a few funny looks, because you're losing some value in doing the trade, but they never turned us down.

delmar411
07-20-2011, 09:37 AM
I'd definitely keep the upgrade to the regular DDP for the two TS meals you mentioned because the upgrade cost is basically a wash. The way the TS to CS exchange works is this, you have to use all of your CS credits up before they will exchange TS for CS, but then you shouldn't have a problem. You may get a few funny looks, because you're losing some value in doing the trade, but they never turned us down.

I wouldn't plan my trip based off this. I've only found switches can be made at the hotel you are staying at. So I think it is definitely a YMMV thing and going into the parks on a TS plan w/o any ADRs would not be relaxing to me.

Here's my suggestion to save money:

drop back to the QS plan. You get the refillable mugs for 8 (2 aren't on the plans right?) plus you get 2 snacks per day so 16snacks per day instead of just 8. And this plan is free. ;)

drop back to base tickets. If you fine you want to hop then add hopping when you are there. There is no savings in adding it now. Also if you drop back to base tickets, you can also upgrade just those tickets of those who will get the best use out of the water parks. The little ones are not going to get a value from the waterparks. The older kids will though. So have a split day and just let the little ones play at the hotel pool while one parent takes the big kids to the water park and you only pay for the ones who are getting the value from the WP&M option. The big kids could also hit up Disney quest in the evening if the little kids are wiped out. That would be a good savings on the tickets.

I don't think either of the TS's you have planned are a must do, to be honest. Everyone has their own opinion so that's mine. :laughing:

Diegosmom
07-20-2011, 09:41 AM
I have never gone to HDDR but I know how my DS4 can get during a long meal and I cant imagine sitting thru a dinner show with 8 kids, especially 2 that are under 2. If I were you I would cut this out and go back to the quick service and also cut hopper and water parks...I can't imagine trying to keep track of 8 kids at a water park especially with such a wide range of ages...OK really I can't imagine having 8 kids lol, as I tend to have my hands full with 1 so my hat goes off to you two.