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DVC_Corrys
07-16-2011, 03:51 PM
So,
This was pretty funny. Also, I think they are talking about some of us on the boards :)....

I have included the entire review but the first paragraph is hilarious.

I thought Disney was for kids - From Cruise Critic.

Wow! I had no idea that there is a counter culture of adults for whom Disney is their church. This group likes to camp out in front of the stores in sleeping bags awaiting limited edition pins and fight for T-shirts whenever they are strategically stocked in the stores. They also like to interrupt childrens programs to answer trivia questions intended for children and dress up in costumes and break out in Disney songs all the time. They treated the Characters like celebrities.

Wow. I was kind of disturbed by all of this.

We went on a family vacation with our two small children, but felt like complete outsiders by all of the obsessive adults on board without children.

The chldrens programs were pretty pathetic. The staff did not entertain the children at all and my children were really scared to go there after the first day. So this was not the relaxing vacation we were hoping for at all. Disney, do you really think you can let toddlers fend for themselves? It may be okay for 10 year olds, but you can't group 3 and 10 year olds together with minimal supervision and expect for it to go well. Pretty shocking for Disney.

The food was disgusting. I was so upset that I had to put such greasy, low quality food into my kids bellies for 7 days! Hard pancakes and waffles, greasy pizza, gross chicken fingers. Yuck! And the sodium in the food for adults was really noticable. I really did not feel well after eating this for so long. If you are health conscious, there just aren't any options for you. I was so relieved to get off the boat and find healthy food! I would pay so much extra for it too if it would just be an option!

We were bored a lot. There was hardly any live music. That was odd. The ship was eerily quiet.

Not our cup of tea I guess.

kimistry6
07-16-2011, 04:02 PM
To each their own. My kids loved the club but my 4 yr old did get a little bored with it. I personally loved the chicken fingers!!

jmcross
07-16-2011, 04:04 PM
If these people don't rebook another cruise that just leaves more spots open for the rest of us. :thumbsup2

DVCconvert
07-16-2011, 04:07 PM
I bet these folk made for fun tablemates! :lmao:
:snooty:

E&Cmom
07-16-2011, 04:15 PM
My 7 and 4 year old had to be dragged out of the clubs to actually spend time with us. They were constantly asking to go there.

The cruise was definitely "our cup of tea". :)

Timon
07-16-2011, 05:27 PM
"...gross chicken fingers. Yuck! "


What???????????? :eek::scared1::confused3

I dream about those chicken fingers :rolleyes: :lovestruc :love: and I'm not even a huge chicken lover :rolleyes1

:lmao:

clten
07-16-2011, 05:41 PM
"...gross chicken fingers. Yuck! "


What???????????? :eek::scared1::confused3

I dream about those chicken fingers :rolleyes: :lovestruc :love: and I'm not even a huge chicken lover :rolleyes1

:lmao:

I know and all that unhealthy fresh cut fruit that they hide right at the beginning of the buffet. Yuck. (I dream about the fresh pineapple!)

SallySkelington
07-16-2011, 05:51 PM
Oh my, that poor unfortunate soul just insulted chicken fingers. I think my hubby just died a little some where inside. :laughing:

But hey, if DCL ain't your cup o' tea, I'm alright with that. More room for the rest of us!

K8T
07-16-2011, 06:32 PM
Everyone is different!!! Although I can see where this poster was coming from.

We have done only three Disney Cruises, but are going on another next week. The last two were both in the Med and we had a fantastic time.

As to the people who are really 'in' to Disney, I can accept that and would say each to their own, there are a lot worse interests to have!!!

I agree that the kids clubs are chaotic though. I was really surprised and have posted such on the boards, how much a 'free for all' it is. Our dd was 3 the first time we went (potty trained), but no way would I have left her in there. Even as a 5 year old, I couldn't relax, it just seemed to me that the children ran riot, with little minimal supervision, until a short activity took place. Now the ages are mixed I am even more concerned and have let DCL know this.

I can see how, if you are used to a structured kids club (as we are), with children in similar age groups, doing activities together throughout the day, that DCL is definately lacking.

As for food, I agree, far too much salt, I sent at least two meals back because of the salt content - one I really couldn't eat. However, that was not the norm and the general standard was some of the best we have ever had.

The kids menu - well I hated it, macaroni cheese, chicken nuggets and burgers, not what I call 'good' food for kids, on both our 10 nights, there was very little change in the kids menu - luckily, our dd ate off the adult menu.

However, we still enjoyed ourselves and are sailing again next week, but I have to stand up for that poster on CC and understand where they are coming from, but in the overall scale of the cruise, it was insignificant.

We can't all be perfect!!! Can we????!!!! :confused3 ;)

lilsonicfan
07-16-2011, 07:10 PM
We have a Sept 2012 repositioning cruise booked with DCL and while I know that all reviews need to be taken with a grain of salt, it does concern me that the kids club is getting a poor review. We just got off an NCL cruise and I thought the kids club was done really well. Some of the hours were "freestyle play" with various age groups, but by and large the kids were separated into 2-5, 6-9, etc. My son will only be 3 when we cruise, will he really be grouped with 10 year olds?

Makayna
07-16-2011, 07:20 PM
We have a Sept 2012 repositioning cruise booked with DCL and while I know that all reviews need to be taken with a grain of salt, it does concern me that the kids club is getting a poor review. We just got off an NCL cruise and I thought the kids club was done really well. Some of the hours were "freestyle play" with various age groups, but by and large the kids were separated into 2-5, 6-9, etc. My son will only be 3 when we cruise, will he really be grouped with 10 year olds?

If he is potty trained, yes. The "Club" (3-6, I think?) and the "Lab" (7-10) are combined, which means that 3 y/o's can go freely into the Lab... all they have to do is ask the CM of the room they're in. And vice versa. So, what this means is that the Club/Lab is for 3-10 year olds, which I think is RIDICULOUS!!! A 3 year old and a 10 year old are on COMPLETELY different levels of development, both mentally and physically. Games that 10 year olds enjoy would go over the heads of 3 year olds. And games 3 year olds enjoy would be boring, or "baby games" for 10 year olds.

I personally think that Disney did a horrible dis-service to ALL kids in this age group when they combined these two groups. And it basically comes down to them NOT enforcing their age groupings to begin with. ALL 10 year olds are allowed into the Edge, which is for 11-13, and 13 y/o's are often let into Vibe, which is for 14-17 (or 18 if you're still in H.S. or just graduated). If they would just stick to the age groupings that they put in place to begin with, they wouldn't be having this problem!

But to answer your question, yes. Your 3 year old could quite possibly be in the same room with 10 year olds. :rolleyes:

lbgraves
07-16-2011, 07:26 PM
Yes, that is one of the dumbest things that DCL has ever done. Due to the number of people who wanted to have one child stay with another sibling and having to change their age group in the system, they changed their policy that any kid in the 3-10 age groups can do any program they want in those groups, which would have been split into three seperate age groups prior to this change [3-4, 5-7, 8-10]. Add to that the 11 & 12 yos who want to visit the lab for certain activities or because their parents don't want them to have signout privs and you could have a 3 yo in a room with a 12 yo. Personally, I am glad that they did things the old way when my kids were younger. Reports were that most kids stayed with the intended age-apropriate activity. I have no idea how they would manage that. DD was VERY shy at 3 and wouldn't have questioned anything.

E&Cmom
07-16-2011, 07:35 PM
On our cruise, I found that most of the older kids stuck to the lab while the younger ones were in the club. Even though they can go back and foward, the activities in the club were geared more to the younger set and their interest levels. My girls went to the Lab a few times but were more interested in the club.

My girls are 7 and 4 and while I understand and agree with the concern of not having the seperate age groups it did work for us since it meant that the could be together. I think my 4 year old would have had a hard time initially without her sister. I haven't been on a nother cruise line with a age structured kids club so maybe they would have been fine there too. All I know is we had a positive experience in the club.

SLK1
07-16-2011, 08:18 PM
I can see where the reviewer is coming from. We sent our two youngest to the kids club and not one worker interacted with them. Luckily the 9-year-old entertained and kept an eye on the 4-year-old, but it left a bad impression and they wouldn't go back. My kids don't like chaos, and as much as we tried to get them into some of the structured activities, it wasn't their thing, and not being spoken to that first night just wasn't cool.

As for the food, I'm not the healthiest of eaters at home, so I was fine with the sodium/grease content (if you must put it that way), but I was disappointed in the variety of food. Not much change from night to night so the sodium and grease couldn't be put in something new. ;)

Some of the adults DO get a bit carried away to the point of creepiness. I myself experienced it in the DVC member celebration. People acting like fools and I walked out. Yes, please have a GREAT time, but don't be an imbecile about it. :thumbsup2

To each his own. We still love DCL and will cruise again and again (we are Platinum members); my DH won't even think of another cruise line. We have two cruises booked for the upcoming year!:wizard:

Alexander
07-16-2011, 08:24 PM
I know and all that unhealthy fresh cut fruit that they hide right at the beginning of the buffet. Yuck. (I dream about the fresh pineapple!)

OMG I forgot about all of that pineapple! Oh man, I cannot wait to get back on the ship!

Alexander
07-16-2011, 08:29 PM
I don't know what has happened with food in all of Disney over the past few years. We have cruised 3 times and never felt the wow-factor about the food. It was just food. WDW food has gone so far downhill over the past 5-7 years we eat maybe twice in a 7 night stay on property. I mean really? How hard is to make a decent hamburger?

SallySkelington
07-16-2011, 08:33 PM
Everyone is different!!! Although I can see where this poster was coming from.

We have done only three Disney Cruises, but are going on another next week. The last two were both in the Med and we had a fantastic time.

As to the people who are really 'in' to Disney, I can accept that and would say each to their own, there are a lot worse interests to have!!!

I agree that the kids clubs are chaotic though. I was really surprised and have posted such on the boards, how much a 'free for all' it is. Our dd was 3 the first time we went (potty trained), but no way would I have left her in there. Even as a 5 year old, I couldn't relax, it just seemed to me that the children ran riot, with little minimal supervision, until a short activity took place. Now the ages are mixed I am even more concerned and have let DCL know this.

I can see how, if you are used to a structured kids club (as we are), with children in similar age groups, doing activities together throughout the day, that DCL is definately lacking.

As for food, I agree, far too much salt, I sent at least two meals back because of the salt content - one I really couldn't eat. However, that was not the norm and the general standard was some of the best we have ever had.

The kids menu - well I hated it, macaroni cheese, chicken nuggets and burgers, not what I call 'good' food for kids, on both our 10 nights, there was very little change in the kids menu - luckily, our dd ate off the adult menu.

However, we still enjoyed ourselves and are sailing again next week, but I have to stand up for that poster on CC and understand where they are coming from, but in the overall scale of the cruise, it was insignificant.

We can't all be perfect!!! Can we????!!!! :confused3 ;)

I never expect anyone to be perfect, nor do I expect Disney to be perfect, but I know that in most cases they try to do their best. There has been so much "Disney bashing" lately that it puts a damper on the magic for others. There was no reason why every thing that the CC said couldn't have been put in polite manner voicing his concerns like you did.

Of course also note that no one is really taking this guy seriously. I'm happy the guy tried it. If he didn't like it then good for him. I imagine that he was grumpy, and grumpy people on cruise ships just do not go well together. lol. But as you said we're all different, and I agree. :thumbsup2

mousejunkie98
07-16-2011, 08:40 PM
This person is what I refer to as a Mouse Hater. Sadly, I have one in my own family (my SIL), and I refuse to take her on DCL or to WDW, knowing she would make herself have a horrible time just because she hates Disney.

I have two boys, ages 7 and 4. My 4-year-old is on the shy side, and no way would he have gone willingly into the Club if he couldn't have been with his brother. Because he could be with him, he loved going and had a great time. From what we noticed, the older kids stayed in the Lab, and most of the younger kids stayed in the Club unless they were playing with an older sibling. I never saw any lack of supervision, there were always plenty of CMs watching the kids and engaging them. It was not a free-for-all, no one was running amuck. And this was on a sold-out Dream cruise with 1,300 kids on board.

Makayna
07-16-2011, 08:45 PM
I think one way to solve this would be if they made it that the older kids from the lab could go into the club if they wanted, but NOT the other way around. That way, you're basically going to be having kids with younger siblings in the club... a 10 y/o that doesn't have a younger sibling isn't likely to want to go into the club just to be doing. I know that wouldn't solve ALL of the problems, but I think it would help. But maybe that could create a situation where there are too many kids in the club?! :confused3

I just think the way they have the club/lab now is pathetic and potentially dangerous. :rolleyes:

pdwimmer
07-16-2011, 08:51 PM
I could not get my kids to stay in the clubs last cruise. 15 minutes after I dropped them off the stupid pager started beeping. I hope the new clubs entertain them for at least an hour so my hubby and I can enjoy some music and a cocktail before bed. If not, oh well. We'll have our own party on the deck.

SanDeeKath
07-16-2011, 11:01 PM
I have to agree with some of what the reviewer said. I find the food on Disney really poor compared to the other cruise lines we have taken (Princess, RCCL, Carnival and Celebrity) and the buffet closes completely after 3pm! I have never been on a cruise where there is no option for buffet for dinner, especially when kids are involved. I also thing the buffet is tiny and has a very poor selection. The MDR food was either fantastic or horrible but either way very inconsistent.

I also agree that the children's place is a total free for all. Kids are running wild with nothing structured to do, or otherwise have something fun like cookie baking but there are literally 100 children all trying to do it at the same time. My 6 year old is a bit shy and takes a while to warm up. There was no way she was going to warm up to the "scene" at the kids club. There were very few counselors (I counted only 3 for the 100+ kids) although there are 2-3 more but they are manning the doors for check in, check out, which sometimes took over 10 minutes! It was a huge disappointment for us coming from other ship lines and 15+ cruises. This was our experience on the Wonder in the Spring. Other ships may be different. I can't say.

I have to say that just because you criticize a cruise ship or food or children's club doesn't mean you are a Disney hater. We LOVE Disney and own almost 1000 DVC points, spend every moment we have free at Disneyland, etc. But I the reviews on the cruise critis are appropriately harsh sometimes. I really hope Disney hears the feedback and tries to not rest on their laurels but tries to make changes in response to the reviews. Otherwise, the "magic" will eventually wear away...

MTmomma
07-16-2011, 11:25 PM
OMG I forgot about all of that pineapple! Oh man, I cannot wait to get back on the ship!

we kept ordering pineapple from room service right along with our mickey bars! :rotfl:

breakingd_awn
07-16-2011, 11:30 PM
So,
This was pretty funny. Also, I think they are talking about some of us on the boards :)....

I have included the entire review but the first paragraph is hilarious.

I thought Disney was for kids - From Cruise Critic.

Wow! I had no idea that there is a counter culture of adults for whom Disney is their church. This group likes to camp out in front of the stores in sleeping bags awaiting limited edition pins and fight for T-shirts whenever they are strategically stocked in the stores. They also like to interrupt childrens programs to answer trivia questions intended for children and dress up in costumes and break out in Disney songs all the time. They treated the Characters like celebrities.

Wow. I was kind of disturbed by all of this.

We went on a family vacation with our two small children, but felt like complete outsiders by all of the obsessive adults on board without children.

The chldrens programs were pretty pathetic. The staff did not entertain the children at all and my children were really scared to go there after the first day. So this was not the relaxing vacation we were hoping for at all. Disney, do you really think you can let toddlers fend for themselves? It may be okay for 10 year olds, but you can't group 3 and 10 year olds together with minimal supervision and expect for it to go well. Pretty shocking for Disney.

The food was disgusting. I was so upset that I had to put such greasy, low quality food into my kids bellies for 7 days! Hard pancakes and waffles, greasy pizza, gross chicken fingers. Yuck! And the sodium in the food for adults was really noticable. I really did not feel well after eating this for so long. If you are health conscious, there just aren't any options for you. I was so relieved to get off the boat and find healthy food! I would pay so much extra for it too if it would just be an option!

We were bored a lot. There was hardly any live music. That was odd. The ship was eerily quiet.

Not our cup of tea I guess.

We loved our DCL vacations!!! We cant wait for the next one:cool1:. However I do agree with you about the kids club. I thought they had ablsolutely no structured activities for the younger kids 3-5, they were pretty much on their own. They are too little to know whats going on so they just run around aimlessly.I wish they would do something different with the little ones. I'm kind of worried about my 3yr old being in the club on our next vacation. Last year she was in the nursery,she was potty trained so we tried the club for a couple of hours and found out it wasn't for her. We ended up putting her back in the nursery. She had no trouble in there.

ppiew
07-16-2011, 11:35 PM
I like many will agree with parts and not with others. I find the food very much upgraded in the past year (from the WONDER to the DREAM) both for children and adults. Now my DGC eat a LOT of what would be called 'adult' food. They have not been brought up on a mac 'n cheese diet. (although many many people clamber for this stuff) They will try the adult meals in the rotational restaurants and love the wraps on the pool deck. Please don't crucify them for this! Now BOTH DGD (presently ages 13 and 9) have both HATED the kids club from day 1 and they have been on DCL the past 4 years. They are both shy and introverted so kids running helter skelter do NOT appeal to them at all. We adjust and minimize there stays as much as is possible. There are so many more positive things that I think should be focused on ie. the island CC, the separation of pools (adult, family, kids, toddlers). Despite the adversity my DGD find in the kids clubs, where do they want to go on vacation next spring???? You got it - DCL!!!! NOTHING is going to please everyone all the time/

Evan&Kimberly
07-17-2011, 12:51 AM
I am a bit worried about the Oceaneers Club! I have a 5 yr old and I am scared out of mind knowing that he will be in there with older children, I will just have to wait and see.

nunzia
07-17-2011, 09:19 AM
wow..this is disheartening to say the least.I won't be cruising with kids this time, but for the extra cost and the Disney brand I would expect a much better kid's club set up.

glassslipper2004
07-17-2011, 09:34 AM
One thing I do miss on a Disney cruise is a steel band playing Caribbean music. :confused3 I'm not sure why Disney can't let up on the Disney music every once in a while to play some island-y stuff on the Caribbean cruises. That said, this certainly isn't a deal breaker for us!

And yes, much of the food isn't the healthiest - but options for eating healthy are there, it is just that when presented with so many other options, it is hard to choose the steamed veggies and chicken breast. Eating out at restaurants results in eating too much salt, too, sad to say, but we do it anyway! And I can't wait to do it for our four nights on the Dream!

kaseyC
07-17-2011, 10:13 AM
This person is what I refer to as a Mouse Hater. Sadly, I have one in my own family (my SIL), and I refuse to take her on DCL or to WDW, knowing she would make herself have a horrible time just because she hates Disney.


I wouldn't consider this person a Mouse Hater. DCL is just not a good fit for them. Just because their impressions and experiences are not positive, it does not make them any less valid. Fortunately, there are many different cruise lines and ships out there so they will hopefully find one that works for them.

bonnielynn
07-17-2011, 10:16 AM
I have only been on 2 Disney cruises (3rd coming up) so I dont have much to compare to. I can say that our youngest was 9 when we first went and I couldn't get him out of the clubs.. on our 15 day panama city cruise I literally had to insist that he have dinner with us. He loved the club..so we never had a problem. I can understand parents wanting their children to stay together for multiple of reasons.. and I'm sure that is a main factor in Disney allowing the crossover in ages.. with that said I can understand the other side as well.. we just never had any of these problems on either cruise.

Eating out is never as "healthy" as one would like.. keeping that in mind, the food was never a disappointment for us. I agree with the buffet being closed so early.. there are times that I really dont want to get dressed and go to dinner. Although I have gone to the "casual" restaurant as well. I would love it if they had a buffet as a choice.

The ship can be quiet at times, which can be a plus.. depending what you are there for.

I think going in with no expectations and just enjoying makes for a great cruise.

I plan to go on other cruise ships now that our child is a bit older.. and hopefully, eventually I will be well versed enough to really compare.. ;)

Snowecru
07-17-2011, 10:16 AM
Meh. Some people like it, some don't. My girls went to certain activities but didn't want to stay all the time. They loved the unhealthy food, it was a break from the vegan stuff:hippie: they get at home! :lmao:

The camping out for doodads is ah, a little, ah...unusual?

latinqt
07-17-2011, 10:18 AM
Oh God. The kids club staffer to child really does bother me one on the Dream. I'm going to have to check this out for myself on our NYE cruise. Our last cruise on the magic was great for our 5 yr old GD. She was well cared for with group supervised play. Yikes::scared1:

Jerseymomof2
07-17-2011, 10:25 AM
I am a bit worried about the Oceaneers Club! I have a 5 yr old and I am scared out of mind knowing that he will be in there with older children, I will just have to wait and see.

I'm going to have a 4 & 6 yr old and I was really hoping for some good supervision. I really want some alone time with hubby and that is why we booked this cruise. Because of the kids activities. If I think it looks unsafe I might have a hard time leaving them there. which would ruin my adult time.

Would I be able to ask that they be kept in the club part and not pernitted to go into the lab?

What is the child/CM ratio?

mousejunkie98
07-17-2011, 10:51 AM
Honestly, the situation in the kids clubs is not the dangerous, Lord of the Flies free-for-all that people are making it out to be!!!

As I said, we were on a full cruise that the cruise director told us included over 1300 children. We went in and out of the clubs often, because our kids wanted to be in there so much that we would stop by and check on them from time to time. Not because we were worried, but because we'd be moving on to a new activity and were just checking in to see if they were still having fun, and because it was fun for us to see what they were doing.

Every single time we were there - every single time - we saw kids that were busy, engaged and having fun. Never heard a child crying. Not once. Never saw a child alone. In the Club AND the Lab, there were CMs everywhere playing with the kids. There were no groups of kids roaming around and making trouble. The CM-to-child ratio is excellent, seriously they're everywhere! There is even an unfortunate soul whose job it is to stand outside the restroom and make sure everyone is okay and washes their hands on the way out (this person also monitors the corridor between the Club and Lab).

My youngest is 4, and he's shy. It takes him a bit to warm up and get involved without his brother. By the end of his first time in there, the CMs were calling him by name. He stayed mostly in the Club, but it was so helpful for him to be able to go to the Lab (that's where his 7-year-old brother preferred to be, playing video games). Even in the Lab, CMs engaged him. One time we went in to see them, my little one was in the Lab learning to make Disney characters out of Play Doh, and another time he was having a dance party with Stitch.

No, it's not strictly structured like a school or a daycare. The kids can pick and choose their activities and not be shuttled from A to B to C, but I think that's the point - it's their vacation, too. While not strictly structured, that does not mean it's unsafe. Those CMs know what is going on at all times. They take very good care of the kids. There are no gangs of evil 10-year-olds stalking and bullying the 3-year-olds., honestly there aren't. If a child was making trouble, the CMs would take care of it, and if it kept happening I can assure you that child would not be welcome anymore.

Oh, and one more note about the "tweens" who can use the Lab if they want to, I did chat with a CM about that. She told me that almost none of them do, and the ones who do are kids who like the interaction with the adults and come only for scheduled activities that interest them. When a tween checks in, all the CMs on the floor in the Lab are aware of it and they are monitored. I saw this myself, one checked in when we were dropping off my son, and a CM walked the boy to the activity he had come to participate in (a cooking activity).

bonnielynn
07-17-2011, 11:26 AM
Would I be able to ask that they be kept in the club part and not pernitted to go into the lab?

What is the child/CM ratio?

I can tell you that when my son was old enough to leave the clubs w/out letting me know that it freaked me out.. so I made sure that he was not allowed to leave without me being notified that he left, where he was going and returned.. I was given a pager (even though he wasn't in the age to have one) and I was always told what he was doing..

So I would say yes.. if you as a parent say they can't go to the older club, they wouldn't be allowed.

Makayna
07-17-2011, 11:35 AM
I can tell you that when my son was old enough to leave the clubs w/out letting me know that it freaked me out.. so I made sure that he was not allowed to leave without me being notified that he left, where he was going and returned.. I was given a pager (even though he wasn't in the age to have one) and I was always told what he was doing..

So I would say yes.. if you as a parent say they can't go to the older club, they wouldn't be allowed.

I don't see how this would work. Let's say you tell CM A that you don't want Billy to go to the Lab. CM B comes on to her shift. CM A might tell CM B that Billy isn't supposed to go to the Lab, but how are they going to remember when Sally has diabetes and isn't supposed to bake cookies and Michael isn't supposed to go to the Club and Ashley can't be near any characters because it freaks her out and her parents don't want her in the Club, but instead would like her to go to the Lab, whenever characters are in there. So, Billy asks to go to the Lab. Do the CMs carry a clipboard with ALL of the various parents' requests written on it at all times?! And if so, how reliable is it that CM A wrote it on the note so that CM B knows?

I have a hard time believing that if Billy asked to go to the Lab, that that request would 100% absolutely be honored. :cool:

woody73
07-17-2011, 12:10 PM
From Cruise Critic.
"There was hardly any live music. That was odd."

I have to agree with this one. On other cruise lines, there is much more live music on board -- live musicians at the stage shows, live bands at the sail away and daily at the pool. Plus, multiple venues offering live music in the evenings.

Over the years, DCL has cut back on their live music offerings: no more dueling pianos, no more steel drum band, and no more live music at the sailaway. That's sad.

Woody

mousejunkie98
07-17-2011, 12:15 PM
You have to remember that every kid in the Club and Lab is wearing a GPS tracking device, so the CMs can literally pinpoint where every kid is at every second. When we'd go pick up our kids, they'd tell us EXACTLY where they were. And yes, there are CMs monitoring those computers every second.

I had a client sail on DCL with a child who has a severe peanut allergy. His file was flagged, and he was never allowed near any kind of tree nut. Before starting to cook, the CMs check to make sure no one in that room is allergic, diabetic, whatever. They can do this because of those RFID units that every kid is wearing.

They are very, very, very careful. You cannot pick up your kids unless you are listed in the computer as authorized AND you have the password. Every child is scanned in and out.

The only place they don't have computerized monitoring is at Scuttle's Cove on Castaway Cay. There, they rely on clipboards, but they don't do the same cooking activities they do on the ship. In that case, if your child has an allergy or is diabetic, while I'm sure they have a system in place, I'd simply recommend having your child eat lunch with you and not at Scuttle's Cove.

lbgraves
07-17-2011, 01:13 PM
Also, the kids use a "secret passageway" to get between the club and lab on the Magic and Wonder. Have not seen the Dream but why not use the same thing there? ;) They don't ever leave the confines of the club when they do this because one end is in the lab and the other is in the club. They cannot leave the supervision without checking in/out with the CM at the desk.

MinnesotaMouseketeers
07-17-2011, 02:03 PM
I NEVER PAY ATTENTION to reviews like this. As you can see in my signature, I have done several DCL vacations. We booked another one while on the Wonder PC cruise; It will be our fifth DCL vacation. And while I think there is room for improvements in some categories (and I put them down on the survey), we have ALWAYS HAD A OVERALL "MAGIC"AL EXPERIENCE on our vacations.

All kids are different and you have no way of knowing if they will have fun in the kids clubs until they are in it. It blows me away that because critics/parents say "my kids had no fun in the clubs" so I am sure your kids will hate it also. People start to rethink there DCL vacation. Our DS was dragged out kicking and screaming when ever we went to pick him up. He loved the staff and activities.

If you have a DCL vacation booked or are thinking of booking one and are having second thoughts after reading negative reports. GO AND EXPERIENCE IT ON YOUR OWN. You may be missing out on one of the most "Wonder"ful family vacation ever, because someone else has expectations that will never be met of have no idea how to have fun. Because by reading posts like the Cruise Critic, that person to me is going out their way to find nothing but the negatives. I can't/don't believe that there isn't something fun and positive to write about.

DVC_Corrys
07-17-2011, 02:09 PM
I guess I should pop in and say my main reason for posting the review was the funny notes they had about the adult Disney fans.

I found it humorous.

mousejunkie98
07-17-2011, 02:13 PM
Also, the kids use a "secret passageway" to get between the club and lab on the Magic and Wonder. Have not seen the Dream but why not use the same thing there? ;) They don't ever leave the confines of the club when they do this because one end is in the lab and the other is in the club. They cannot leave the supervision without checking in/out with the CM at the desk.

It is the same thing, an interior passageway. The kids never leave the club when going between the Club and Lab, and there are CMs posted at the entrance on both sides. It's not really a hallway on the Dream, it's a room where they do the cooking and science experiments. One exit goes to the Lab and one to the Club. To go between the Club and the Lab you pass through that room.

NHdisneylover
07-17-2011, 04:17 PM
I don't see anything really wrong with the review posted--it i how the reviewer felt and it does not seem like a totally unfair assessment of a situation r unrealistic expectations--it i just not what THAT person likes.

I have to say I am relieved that my kids have already aged out of the club and lab a the current 3-10 all together thing sounds like a terrible set up to me. That said, we have never had an issue with feeling the club/lab/etc were unsafe at all. DD14 never liked the kids' programming on Disney (and she was 2 on our first DCL cruise), but DS12 loved it up until the last couple of cruises (the tween programming is not really appealing to him). ome kid have the "right" personality for the DCL programming and some just don't.

As far as the food goes--well, I love those chicken fingers but I know they are terrible for you:lmao: Otherwise, the buffest on DCL are terrible IMO but the sit down meals are pretty good and the service and atmosphere are fantastic. I would say food quality is about what I expect from a cruiseline and on par with Princess or Carnival. RCI's food was much worse and Celebrity's faaaaar better.

What makes DCL so great for us is the staff and entertainment. The cruise staffs on DCL are always more energetic and more enthusiastic than on any other line. The parties and activities are so much fun and so well done--head and shoulders over any other line we have sailed and the stage show are also top notch and much better than on other lines.

I have to agree with this one. On other cruise lines, there is much more live music on board -- live musicians at the stage shows, live bands at the sail away and daily at the pool. Plus, multiple venues offering live music in the evenings.

Over the years, DCL has cut back on their live music offerings: no more dueling pianos, no more steel drum band, and no more live music at the sailaway. That's sad.

Woody
This is absolutely something we miss. It is really too bad Disney has dropped more and more music over the years. I would love to see it come back.

mhsjax
07-17-2011, 04:30 PM
Wow, they insulted the chicken fingers. I love those things. They are my guilty pleasure when I cruise DCL. However, I do agree about the kids clubs, my kids thought they were incredibly lame and never had any desire to go back after the first day.

MisterOJ
07-17-2011, 04:49 PM
Okay, I have to speak up.

I honestly don't get why people are so madly in love with the chicken fingers on DCL. I think they're good, but nowhere near great. They are one of the most solid items on on quick-food menu on DCL, but compared to chicken fingers available on land, they are lacking. Are they better than places like Zaxby's or Chik-fil-a or someplace like O'Charlies? I don't think so. Honestly, I think they are more on par with what you'd find at a Wendy's or McDonalds.

Doesn't mean they're bad, but they're not all that. On a scale of 1-10, I'd say they are a solid 5. Maybe 5.5, but I'd go no higher than that. :confused3

disneychic
07-17-2011, 05:20 PM
I know and all that unhealthy fresh cut fruit that they hide right at the beginning of the buffet. Yuck. (I dream about the fresh pineapple!)

Me too! I love all of the fruit you can get --especially the pineapple! I live in Maine so I'm not getting pineapple that fresh anytime during the year up here!

sdchickie
07-17-2011, 06:13 PM
To each their own. My kids loved the club but my 4 yr old did get a little bored with it. I personally loved the chicken fingers!!

"...gross chicken fingers. Yuck! "


What???????????? :eek::scared1::confused3

I dream about those chicken fingers :rolleyes: :lovestruc :love: and I'm not even a huge chicken lover :rolleyes1

:lmao:

Oh my, that poor unfortunate soul just insulted chicken fingers. I think my hubby just died a little some where inside. :laughing:

But hey, if DCL ain't your cup o' tea, I'm alright with that. More room for the rest of us!

Wow, they insulted the chicken fingers. I love those things. They are my guilty pleasure when I cruise DCL. However, I do agree about the kids clubs, my kids thought they were incredibly lame and never had any desire to go back after the first day.

Ok, now I've got to try the chicken fingers! You people are making me hungry!!! :laughing:

lbgraves
07-17-2011, 06:48 PM
I am very grateful for the chicken fingers on the ships as otherwise we would not have been able to go on many cruises. That is all DS eats on the ship after breakfast...though he did start adding pizza to his list a couple cruises ago. LOL!

bonnielynn
07-17-2011, 06:51 PM
I don't see how this would work. Let's say you tell CM A that you don't want Billy to go to the Lab. CM B comes on to her shift. CM A might tell CM B that Billy isn't supposed to go to the Lab, but how are they going to remember when Sally has diabetes and isn't supposed to bake cookies and Michael isn't supposed to go to the Club and Ashley can't be near any characters because it freaks her out and her parents don't want her in the Club, but instead would like her to go to the Lab, whenever characters are in there. So, Billy asks to go to the Lab. Do the CMs carry a clipboard with ALL of the various parents' requests written on it at all times?! And if so, how reliable is it that CM A wrote it on the note so that CM B knows?

I have a hard time believing that if Billy asked to go to the Lab, that that request would 100% absolutely be honored. :cool:

I can assure you that it worked for us.. he never left the kids club w/out me getting a page when he left, where he was going and when he came back.. not sure how they all managed it.. but they did.. :thumbsup2

Timon
07-17-2011, 07:37 PM
The chicken strips are amazing!!! Not even in the same category as Wendy's or McDonalds!

Now if only they would bring back Ken's Honey Dijon dipping sauce :thumbsup2

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l120/timoncass/Disney%20Dream%20Trip/Other%20Food/20110131_1502.jpg

*drooling on her keyboard*

:goodvibes

lisamarch
07-17-2011, 07:43 PM
Kids don't have to eat off a kids' menu on DCL. That is insanity.

On another note, my DS is now confused because he didn't know anything about a passageway between the two Kids Clubs. He had in and out privileges so it didn't matter, but now he's asking me to google, find photos, etc. Geesh!

SLK1
07-17-2011, 07:43 PM
Okay, I have to speak up.

I honestly don't get why people are so madly in love with the chicken fingers on DCL. I think they're good, but nowhere near great. They are one of the most solid items on on quick-food menu on DCL, but compared to chicken fingers available on land, they are lacking. Are they better than places like Zaxby's or Chik-fil-a or someplace like O'Charlies? I don't think so. Honestly, I think they are more on par with what you'd find at a Wendy's or McDonalds.

Doesn't mean they're bad, but they're not all that. On a scale of 1-10, I'd say they are a solid 5. Maybe 5.5, but I'd go no higher than that. :confused3

McDonald's or Wendy's???:scared1: no way!!! I don't eat them, although DD9 swears by them. Oh my goodness...McDonald's or Wendy's??? :lmao:

Anyone else LOVE the unlimited chocolate chip cookies? It's my weak point...I just can't pass by a tray without grabbing one. Or five. :rotfl:

twindaddy
07-17-2011, 09:35 PM
I dont see any need to change my plans based on one nasty review.

Everyone think of your favorite place to eat. Got it in your mind? Now go on ww.yelp.com and read the reviews. Some will hate it! Thinks its disgusting, while others may love it. You have to look at overall trends, and remember, YMMV (your mileage may vary). For every "my child hate the kids club" there are two or three "I had to drag them out kicking and screaming".

Personally, I think the chicken strips look yummy.

NHdisneylover
07-18-2011, 12:30 AM
Okay, I have to speak up.

I honestly don't get why people are so madly in love with the chicken fingers on DCL. I think they're good, but nowhere near great. They are one of the most solid items on on quick-food menu on DCL, but compared to chicken fingers available on land, they are lacking. Are they better than places like Zaxby's or Chik-fil-a or someplace like O'Charlies? I don't think so. Honestly, I think they are more on par with what you'd find at a Wendy's or McDonalds.

Doesn't mean they're bad, but they're not all that. On a scale of 1-10, I'd say they are a solid 5. Maybe 5.5, but I'd go no higher than that. :confused3

I used to be about where you are--they were "okay" and more than enough to get me through until a "real" meal if needed--certainly the bet option around the pool for a non red meat eater.
Now I live somewhere where the ONLY chicken fingers are the gross McDonald's version (I do think DCL's are much better then McDonald's--but I agree about on par with Wendys) --and I am very fond of chicken fingers in general--so I was thrilled with them on our Med cruise:upsidedow

I dont see any need to change my plans based on one nasty review.

Everyone think of your favorite place to eat. Got it in your mind? Now go on ww.yelp.com and read the reviews. Some will hate it! Thinks its disgusting, while others may love it. You have to look at overall trends, and remember, YMMV (your mileage may vary). For every "my child hate the kids club" there are two or three "I had to drag them out kicking and screaming".

Personally, I think the chicken strips look yummy.

:lmao: and some of us have one of each kid :lmao:

twindaddy
07-18-2011, 12:56 AM
:lmao: and some of us have one of each kid :lmao:

I have a feeling that will be me as well! One twin outgoing, one shy....

MisterOJ
07-18-2011, 07:46 AM
Maybe I'm being too harsh comparing the chicken strips to the ones from McDonald's. It's been years since I had chicken strips from there, maybe they have gotten worse. Last I remember, they were just okay, but not bad.

I stick by my assertion that the DCL chicken strips are nothing special though. They're really not. I think people must just have a soft spot for them because you're eating them on a DCL ship. I can understand that.

Put the same strips in a land-based establishment and they are run-of-the-mill.

nunzia
07-18-2011, 08:49 AM
This thread just brought to mind what my daughter just told me happened to her while she was a guest on her friend's 16th birthday cruise. My daughter was 15 (she is 24 now so guess she thought it was safe to tell), and she was allowed to LEAVE THE SHIP ALONE in, I think St. Thomas, where she hung out with a local boy she had somehow met earlier? Little fuzzy on that. I think she told someone that she was meeting her friend's parents or some awful teenage lie. I was pretty shocked, first that she would be so stupid (she decided to rebel around that age) and second that it was so easy for her to just walk off the ship.

DMMarla07860
07-18-2011, 08:51 AM
The chicken strips are amazing!!! Not even in the same category as Wendy's or McDonalds!

Now if only they would bring back Ken's Honey Dijon dipping sauce :thumbsup2

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l120/timoncass/Disney%20Dream%20Trip/Other%20Food/20110131_1502.jpg

*drooling on her keyboard*

:goodvibes

agreed about this chicken strips are amazing and loved that Ken's Honey Dijon dipping sauce.

Calfan
07-18-2011, 06:40 PM
Honestly, the situation in the kids clubs is not the dangerous, Lord of the Flies free-for-all that people are making it out to be!!!

As I said, we were on a full cruise that the cruise director told us included over 1300 children. We went in and out of the clubs often, because our kids wanted to be in there so much that we would stop by and check on them from time to time. Not because we were worried, but because we'd be moving on to a new activity and were just checking in to see if they were still having fun, and because it was fun for us to see what they were doing.

Every single time we were there - every single time - we saw kids that were busy, engaged and having fun. Never heard a child crying. Not once. Never saw a child alone. In the Club AND the Lab, there were CMs everywhere playing with the kids. There were no groups of kids roaming around and making trouble. The CM-to-child ratio is excellent, seriously they're everywhere! There is even an unfortunate soul whose job it is to stand outside the restroom and make sure everyone is okay and washes their hands on the way out (this person also monitors the corridor between the Club and Lab).

My youngest is 4, and he's shy. It takes him a bit to warm up and get involved without his brother. By the end of his first time in there, the CMs were calling him by name. He stayed mostly in the Club, but it was so helpful for him to be able to go to the Lab (that's where his 7-year-old brother preferred to be, playing video games). Even in the Lab, CMs engaged him. One time we went in to see them, my little one was in the Lab learning to make Disney characters out of Play Doh, and another time he was having a dance party with Stitch.

No, it's not strictly structured like a school or a daycare. The kids can pick and choose their activities and not be shuttled from A to B to C, but I think that's the point - it's their vacation, too. While not strictly structured, that does not mean it's unsafe. Those CMs know what is going on at all times. They take very good care of the kids. There are no gangs of evil 10-year-olds stalking and bullying the 3-year-olds., honestly there aren't. If a child was making trouble, the CMs would take care of it, and if it kept happening I can assure you that child would not be welcome anymore.

Oh, and one more note about the "tweens" who can use the Lab if they want to, I did chat with a CM about that. She told me that almost none of them do, and the ones who do are kids who like the interaction with the adults and come only for scheduled activities that interest them. When a tween checks in, all the CMs on the floor in the Lab are aware of it and they are monitored. I saw this myself, one checked in when we were dropping off my son, and a CM walked the boy to the activity he had come to participate in (a cooking activity).

I could not have said this better. On our recent 11-day Med cruise on the Magic, our 6 yo DS and 8 yo DD had a fabulous time in the Club/Lab. They spent time in each place, and I never saw them to be running amok or unsupervised. By the end of the cruise, we could hardly tear our 6 yo out of the Lab. We had to drag him out to dinner just to make him take a break. My kids would have preferred to skip some of our fabulous Med excursions just to be able to spend more quality time in the clubs. I never once felt that my children were unsupervised, let alone being placed in a dangerous situation.

N365PA
07-18-2011, 07:45 PM
We've all had these people as table mates. You know the kind. They get upset when goofy messes up their romantic "character breakfast" and wonder why there are some many kids on the boat. They then complain about the wacky wait staff and the bad food.

That's fine. I love DCL and will keep going back. The more curmudgeons that read these reviews and stay away the better. More for us crazy folk!

Clint

clten
07-18-2011, 08:39 PM
I guess I should pop in and say my main reason for posting the review was the funny notes they had about the adult Disney fans.

I found it humorous.

I found it funny too. I just pictured these poor people who were not huge Disney fans to start with and who were unknowingly booked on a DCL "first" cruise (you know the first Alaska or worse yet the MV of the Dream) and watching the crazy adults on those ships, not knowing that this was not normal cruising behavior.

mmouse37
07-18-2011, 10:20 PM
Maybe I'm being too harsh comparing the chicken strips to the ones from McDonald's. It's been years since I had chicken strips from there, maybe they have gotten worse. Last I remember, they were just okay, but not bad.

I stick by my assertion that the DCL chicken strips are nothing special though. They're really not. I think people must just have a soft spot for them because you're eating them on a DCL ship. I can understand that.

Put the same strips in a land-based establishment and they are run-of-the-mill.

Everyone is different.....I think the chicken fingers are great...to me a solid 8 or 9. They are all juicy white meat with a crunchy, flavorful crust...yummy!!!

Yes, you will get a dried out one sometimes but OVERALL they are very good. I actually have not had a land-based (other than WDW) one I liked as well. They are same ones they serve at WDW.

A few years ago DCL did away with the chicken fingers and switched to nuggets....there was such outrage with letters and emails going to DCL that they switched them back. Don't mess with the Chicken fingers...lol!

MJ

jjgarv
07-18-2011, 10:29 PM
I completely agree!:thumbsup2

And I was about to start my own email/letter-writing campaign when rumors circulated that they did away with the Ken's honey mustard to go with the chix fingers! On our last couple of cruises, they kept it behind the counter and you had to ask for it. ;)