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*NikkiBell*
06-24-2011, 11:35 AM
I couldn't agree more with the team's commentary on D23 during this week's email show. I feel that I am your average, or slightly above average, Disney fan. I am a DVC member, annual passholder, pin and Vinylmation trader, etc. I visit WDW and DL a 2-3 times a year. I'm going on an ABD trip in a month and a Disney cruise next summer. I help my family and friends plan trips and frequent an online Disney community everyday.

I joined D23 during its first year and did not renew. All I got out of it was a magazine I never read (and can buy in Barnes & Noble if I wanted to), a certificate, and a free cardboard trinket. The events were never held during a time I was in Disney (mainly peak season, but also early December). Similarly, most of the events are in DL, not WDW, which is farther away.

I can understand that D23 might be a great thing for people who live in California. However, for your average Disney fan, it's still not worth it in my opinion. What about the people who live in the middle of the country? What about those in another country? How is this reaching them? I recognize that D23 is trying to broaden where and when it holds its events, but they still are not accessible for most. Here and there D23 has a movie screening before its released. Whenever I have heard of this happening, they've been in NYC which I'm not going to travel to just to see a movie a few days before it is in my local AMC. Again, this is not reaching the broad Disney fan community.

I am sure the D23 Expo and private parties are nice, but again these activities are not accessible to the main Disney fan base. They are inconvenient in terms of location and cost. If I am going to spend $75 on a membership, I shouldn't have to shell out another large amount of money for something that is mediocre at best and held at strange times of the year. I also agree with Pete's comment about private parties. If D23 is the ultimate Disney fan group, it should throw parties that are far beyond what someone not officially affiliated with Disney can throw. The DIS-sponsored TSM party thrown during the first DAP was incredible. I rather spend my time and energy attending these top of the line events as opposed to something D23 puts together and then have to struggle to get a ticket. So until Disney "reimagines" D23, I'll stick with being an official DIS Disney Fan member. If it is something that works for you, I'm glad to hear it. Unfortunately, I just don't feel it appeals to or is accessible to the majority even despite the improvements they've made since it first began.

ImTooExcitedToSleep
06-24-2011, 12:41 PM
FYI in regards to the Christmas event at WDW selling out so quickly.

D23 announced yesterday that they are doing back-to-back "Magic and Merriment" events at WDW this year: December 9-10 and December 11-12.

That should make tickets slightly easier to get.

DisneyKevin
06-24-2011, 01:26 PM
FYI in regards to the Christmas event at WDW selling out so quickly.

D23 announced yesterday that they are doing back-to-back "Magic and Merriment" events at WDW this year: December 9-10 and December 11-12.

That should make tickets slightly easier to get.

Wasnt last year's event limited to 225 or 250?

We're still only talking about 450 - 500 people.

And the tickets sold out in 15 seconds or some like that....so this year, they might last a minute.

That's still not a big number considering Disney's highest affinity fan base.

We'll see.

Aburns8
06-24-2011, 01:38 PM
They are trying to get better with events all over the country. Tomorrow they are playing Cars 2 in San Francisco, Chicago and Washington DC. I live about 3 hours away from DC and we decided to go up to DC for the day to see the movie. It was pretty cheap, $10 for 2 people. I know it sounds weird to drive up there for a movie, but I have met some really nice people at D23 events.

ImTooExcitedToSleep
06-24-2011, 01:54 PM
Tomorrow they are playing Cars 2 in San Francisco, Chicago and Washington DC.

I'll be at the SF screening. I'm hoping for a few surprises since we'll be in PIXAR-country.

*NikkiBell*
06-24-2011, 03:58 PM
Isn't Cars 2 out nationwide as of today? I just got home from AMC Dine-In and it was playing.

Aburns8
06-24-2011, 03:59 PM
I'll be at the SF screening. I'm hoping for a few surprises since we'll be in PIXAR-country.

Tom let me know how it is. Hey, we never formally met at Destination D! Remember I was supposed to creat a meet :rotfl:

Aburns8
06-24-2011, 04:00 PM
Isn't Cars 2 out nationwide as of today? I just got home from AMC Dine-In and it was playing.

It is. But D23 is doing something for their members.

ImTooExcitedToSleep
06-24-2011, 04:40 PM
It is. But D23 is doing something for their members.

Yep. Usually free swag and special guests at screenings like this. Plus it's only $5 a person for a 3D movie (I you don't count the gas to get there).

Aburns8
06-24-2011, 04:42 PM
Yep. Usually free swag and special guests at screenings like this. Plus it's only $5 a person for a 3D movie (I you don't count the gas to get there).

I had to get a hotel to go to mine. But my DH looks as it as a little road trip.

Disney Enabler
06-24-2011, 05:02 PM
I'll be at the SF screening. I'm hoping for a few surprises since we'll be in PIXAR-country.

Michael, Merry Mousketeer, will be attending the SF screening also followed by an event at the Disney Family Museum! Hope you both have a great time.

Carol
It's a great day to be alive!!!

AllyGirl_79
06-24-2011, 07:49 PM
I'm taking my nephew (age 5 ... age 6 next week) to see it tomorrow at the Chicago screening. Kinda figured the same thing -- it's inexpensive, the location is only a 20 minute drive for me, and I'm curious to see what all is included in an event like this.

PryncessChrysty
06-24-2011, 09:06 PM
Tom let me know how it is. Hey, we never formally met at Destination D! Remember I was supposed to creat a meet :rotfl:

Sorry to jump off topic for a sec, but this cracks me up! When you & I bumped into each other for the umpteenth time leaving Epcot, over by the Int'l Gateway, Tom was with us - we had just had dinner together at Via Napoli. Had I known, I could've introduced the two of you! In fact, we were all on the monorail together when you & I first started chatting. IASW afterall!! lol :rotfl:



Back to the topic at hand. I can understand how if you're not local to CA, D23 can be a bit lackluster. I am fortunate to be a local, but still I hemmed & hawed before I finally joined right before the cut off for Charter Members. While it has cost money for the membership and events, I have found that my love for Disney has only grown because of all of these experiences we've had through D23. Things like getting to experience the Archives and being hosted by Dave Smith (after his retirement), visiting the location where they filmed the original Mickey Mouse Club and most of Mary Poppins, visiting the Legends plaza, meeting Imagineers that I never even knew who they were before D23 and have come to find a deep appreciation for them and all they've contributd to the company. Seeing behind the scenes photos of construction and concept art. Hearing stories from people that worked and walked with Walt, and from those that are keeping his legacy alive today. There is also a great sense of community, similar to the DIS. I've made friends through the DIS, and most of those friendships have been enhanced by the experiences we've had through D23. I understand that this topic isn't necessarily about the DIS and what they can bring to their community, but the crew does a great job at creating experiences for their guests/customers. Unfortunately for me, I can't make it to WDW as often as many others, so it works for me that D23 does so much in CA.

While the club is far from perfect, and I do have a few gripes of my own, it seems to me that they understand there is a lot of room for improvement and are trying to correct past mistakes as they continue on. They are eager for feedback and are trying to expand their reach.

Aburns8
06-25-2011, 06:28 AM
Sorry to jump off topic for a sec, but this cracks me up! When you & I bumped into each other for the umpteenth time leaving Epcot, over by the Int'l Gateway, Tom was with us - we had just had dinner together at Via Napoli. Had I known, I could've introduced the two of you! In fact, we were all on the monorail together when you & I first started chatting. IASW afterall!! lol :rotfl:



Back to the topic at hand. I can understand how if you're not local to CA, D23 can be a bit lackluster. I am fortunate to be a local, but still I hemmed & hawed before I finally joined right before the cut off for Charter Members. While it has cost money for the membership and events, I have found that my love for Disney has only grown because of all of these experiences we've had through D23. Things like getting to experience the Archives and being hosted by Dave Smith (after his retirement), visiting the location where they filmed the original Mickey Mouse Club and most of Mary Poppins, visiting the Legends plaza, meeting Imagineers that I never even knew who they were before D23 and have come to find a deep appreciation for them and all they've contributd to the company. Seeing behind the scenes photos of construction and concept art. Hearing stories from people that worked and walked with Walt, and from those that are keeping his legacy alive today. There is also a great sense of community, similar to the DIS. I've made friends through the DIS, and most of those friendships have been enhanced by the experiences we've had through D23. I understand that this topic isn't necessarily about the DIS and what they can bring to their community, but the crew does a great job at creating experiences for their guests/customers. Unfortunately for me, I can't make it to WDW as often as many others, so it works for me that D23 does so much in CA.

While the club is far from perfect, and I do have a few gripes of my own, it seems to me that they understand there is a lot of room for improvement and are trying to correct past mistakes as they continue on. They are eager for feedback and are trying to expand their reach.

I didn't realize that was him until we got home!

I do agree with you that my love of Disney has grown as well through my experiences with D23. In fact I think my DH likes these events because Thursday I asked him if he wanted to go to a D23 event in DC on Saturday (3 hours away from home and we have to leave shortly after the movie to get back home) and he was excited about it. I am hoping to get into Magic & Merriment this year. Wasn't planning on going, but I think we can make a short trip out of it.

*NikkiBell*
06-25-2011, 10:21 AM
I am happy to hear that D23's membership is worth it for all of you being that you live in California or near DC and can easily attend the events. I am sure the experiences have been great. Visiting the archives, seeing Dave Smith, meeting Imagineers, etc. are all things local to California residents so I guess my point still holds true: if you live in CA, it's worth it. I just wish it was more beneficial for those Disney fans who don't live near one of these locations. We can still live vicariously through you though. ;)

SaraMc
06-25-2011, 10:47 AM
I totallyagree with you Nikki, the D23 is just not worth it. For me, I had to get international shipping even though I can drive 30 minutes and Im at Barnes and Noble and I can just get it there. The events were never close or outside of the park areas. I did get a hoodie as a gift with it, from DH as part of my christmas present when the whole thing ame out. I did not renew. I wll not renew. I truly feel that they really don't think that their fan base isn't anywhere but at DL and WDw.. I just go and get the new magazines at Barnes and Noble when they come out.. I actually preferred the old Disney Magazine that was done by the same people as family fun.

AllyGirl_79
06-25-2011, 03:55 PM
A little update - the Chicago screening was cute. Becky Cline, the director of the Disney Archives, was our "host" and she did a little trivia contest in the theater before the movie. My nephew answered a kids' trivia question correctly and won a small, Finn McMissile model car. You'd think it was made of gold - he was so excited. We also received full size Cars 2 movie posters on our way out (and a rather uninteresting D23 pin). He held the poster the whole way home, falling asleep wrapped around it. If I hadn't been driving, it would have been a cute photo...

Movie was cute. I didn't care for the first one, but I thought this one was interesting and funny. Also led to my nephew asking some questions about other countries and languages, which I thought was very cool. Would have taken him to the movie anyway, but this was kinda fun.

Cheshire Figment
06-25-2011, 05:39 PM
First of all, D-23 is not a Fan Club. It is a profit center for The Walt Disney Company.

If you want to see a true fan club, try the Disneyana Fan Club (formerly The National Fantasy Fan Club) which has been in existence for about 28 years and is completely run by volunteers with no paid staff.

I did join D23 and have mixed emotions about it.

I attend the DFC Annual Convention during alternate years (going to another organizations annual convention in the other years). This is held over a five or six day period which always includes July 17 at the Crowne Plaza in Garden Grove, right outside of Anaheim off Harbor Boulevard. DFC has 26 Chapters, which hold regular meetings, across the US and in three other countries.

I went to the D23 Expo in 2009. I was seriously underwhelmed. Maybe it was because I had gone to all ten of the old Disneyana Conventions and I knew what Disney could do. Maybe also it was because Disney kept saying that it was going to showcase all facets of the company. I did notice the absence of a small group called ESPN, which, last time I looked, was a major part of Disney. And from what I have seen for this year they will also miss a small group called ABC.

Since I don’t live in California, there is not really a lot of stuff that I can go to. With the exception of the Flowers and Fireworks event last May at WDW, and the Destination D events at Disneyland last September and the Contemporary Resort last month I have not been able to attend anything. And I have tried for several other East Coast events and also some West Coast if I knew I was going to be out there at the time.

The three events I was able to attend were, I felt, worth the money based on my interest in Disney history. But I would much rather put my support with the Disneyana Fan Club. It is a non-profit organization. Annual family dues are $29 and most chapters also charge dues.

DFC supports two major charities. On the West Coast money goes to the Ryman Arts Foundation. On the East Coast, I know that last year we donated over $8,000 to GKTW.

One other thing which really disappoints me about D-23. It is the only portion of The Walt Disney Company that gives no discounts to Cast Members for anything, including merchandise.

Anyway, it will probably not be around much longer; most people I know give it less than five years from when it started until it is shut down.

ImTooExcitedToSleep
06-26-2011, 01:39 AM
This pic is from today's SF even and was posted on D23's Facebook page...can you find me???

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263061_240948615917187_147415861937130_1086136_409 178_n.jpg

PryncessChrysty
06-26-2011, 02:22 AM
This pic is from today's SF even and was posted on D23's Facebook page...can you find me???

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263061_240948615917187_147415861937130_1086136_409 178_n.jpg

I spy Don, so I'm guessing you're the bit of forehead right next to him. :magnify: :laughing:

Mouse Skywalker
06-26-2011, 09:25 AM
This pic is from today's SF even and was posted on D23's Facebook page...can you find me???

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263061_240948615917187_147415861937130_1086136_409 178_n.jpgYou're the guy in the sleeveless muscle shirt next to Don, right?

Mouse Skywalker
06-26-2011, 09:32 AM
OK, I listened to the e-mail show yesterday while I was doing some yardwork, and wanted to weigh in with my opinion of D23.

I finally joined this year. I did not join for the full $75 rate, but for the reduced $35 rate - it includes everything except the magazine. I wanted to see if my membership would be worth it. Because of all the writing/interviewing I do for the DIS Unplugged, I kind of looked at joining in the same way I look at belonging to my professional society at work.

I live in Rochester, NY - so I'm not close to FL or CA. So far, I've gotten a certificate for joining - that's it. I haven't been able to attend any of the events in any of the locations.

I am looking forward to checking out the D23 Expo this year. It sounds like fun, and I'm hoping the lines aren't too long. The complaint that the Expo is in Anaheim doesn't really hold water for me. The Expo was announced far, far ahead of time, and I made plans to attend it. This is my summer family vacation, and we decided to go check out Disneyland and the Expo. It's similar to how we went to WDW and Star Wars Celebration V in Orlando last year. It's a destination event that we decided to go to.

I'll be sure to let you know my impressions of the Expo.

ImTooExcitedToSleep
06-26-2011, 11:56 AM
You're the guy in the sleeveless muscle shirt next to Don, right?

I was going to the Walt Disney Family Museum later, so I actually wore sleeves to this event. :lmao:

k5jmh
06-26-2011, 12:10 PM
This pic is from today's SF even and was posted on D23's Facebook page...can you find me???

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263061_240948615917187_147415861937130_1086136_409 178_n.jpg

I did see Merry Mouseketeer in the picture!

And Tom is in the far back on the right hand side.

WaltD4Me
06-26-2011, 01:06 PM
If I lived near DL I would probably join D23, other than that, it's not happening. Just the stories of the WDW event tickets selling out in seconds is reason enough for me not to join. I've bought the magazine 3 or 4 times and while it's nice, it's big and inconvienant to read and it's NOT as good as Disney Magazine that I still sorely miss. I might also consider D23 if they offered member discounts, even small ones, for Disney shopping and/or restaurants at the parks/resorts, but so far I still see nothing in D23 that makes it worth the price.

CynthiaC925
07-01-2011, 02:43 PM
I am surprised about the comments about very few events in WDW. What about the scavenger hunt for 2 days and then destination d for two days that just occurred in May? D23 pulled out all the stops with the final event a concert by Richard Sherman in person along with the original dreamfinder and figment showing up? There does seem to be some kind of blackout about D23 events on the dis unplugged podcast but everyone has access to the D23 website and can see upcoming events. The expo pretty much has to happen in California due to the proximity of Disneyland to the convention center (within walking distance-not so in Florida) and that most of the movie stars etc live nearby and it's easier to have them show up if in California. I thought the first expo was unbelievable and can't wait for the next-I've been a D23 member since day one (and was living in Idaho then) and still am-I think it's worth every penny and then some.

ImTooExcitedToSleep
07-01-2011, 02:58 PM
I am surprised about the comments about very few events in WDW. What about the scavenger hunt for 2 days and then destination d for two days that just occurred in May? D23 pulled out all the stops with the final event a concert by Richard Sherman in person along with the original dreamfinder and figment showing up? There does seem to be some kind of blackout about D23 events on the dis unplugged podcast but everyone has access to the D23 website and can see upcoming events. The expo pretty much has to happen in California due to the proximity of Disneyland to the convention center (within walking distance-not so in Florida) and that most of the movie stars etc live nearby and it's easier to have them show up if in California. I thought the first expo was unbelievable and can't wait for the next-I've been a D23 member since day one (and was living in Idaho then) and still am-I think it's worth every penny and then some.

Hi Cynthia!

I actually attended Destination D and posted pictures on the DIS Unplugged Blog (http://www.disunplugged.com/2011/05/15/d23s-destination-d-walt-disney-world-40th-day-1/). I was scheduled to sit in on the podcast and talk about it (and Teresa was going to talk about the Scavenger Hunt), but the recording ended up getting delayed until later in the week due to illness and I had already flown home. :sad1:

I did talk about it very briefly on the 5/26 Disneyland edition of the Podcast.

I imagine we will have FULL coverage of the D23 Expo.

Mouse Skywalker
07-02-2011, 07:39 AM
I am surprised about the comments about very few events in WDW. What about the scavenger hunt for 2 days and then destination d for two days that just occurred in May? D23 pulled out all the stops with the final event a concert by Richard Sherman in person along with the original dreamfinder and figment showing up? There does seem to be some kind of blackout about D23 events on the dis unplugged podcast but everyone has access to the D23 website and can see upcoming events. The expo pretty much has to happen in California due to the proximity of Disneyland to the convention center (within walking distance-not so in Florida) and that most of the movie stars etc live nearby and it's easier to have them show up if in California. I thought the first expo was unbelievable and can't wait for the next-I've been a D23 member since day one (and was living in Idaho then) and still am-I think it's worth every penny and then some.

Hi Cynthia!

I actually attended Destination D and posted pictures on the DIS Unplugged Blog (http://www.disunplugged.com/2011/05/15/d23s-destination-d-walt-disney-world-40th-day-1/). I was scheduled to sit in on the podcast and talk about it (and Teresa was going to talk about the Scavenger Hunt), but the recording ended up getting delayed until later in the week due to illness and I had already flown home. :sad1:

I did talk about it very briefly on the 5/26 Disneyland edition of the Podcast.

I imagine we will have FULL coverage of the D23 Expo.I'm glad Tom posted, because I was going to post a link to his coverage of Destination D at WDW. Cynthia, maybe we'll get a chance to meet at the D23 Expo!

GAN
07-04-2011, 06:50 AM
I must be in the minority because I feel that the magazine is really well done -I use to get the old Disney Magazine as well and I enjoyed that also. It's not worth the membership fee alone, but it's generally a good read -for me.

Mouse Skywalker
07-07-2011, 02:53 PM
Not to add fuel to the fire, but D23 just released the arena schedule for the D23 Expo.

ARENA SCHEDULE ANNOUNCED FOR THE D23 EXPO: THE ULTIMATE DISNEY FAN EVENT AUGUST 19 – 21 AT THE ANAHEIM CONVENTION CENTER

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f135/dparfitt1/D23Expologo.jpg

Star-Studded Presentations Include Regis Philbin, the Cast of Disney Channel’s “Shake It Up,” Disney Princesses and Countless Surprise Appearances

ANAHEIM, Calif. – July 7, 2011 – The D23 Expo 2011 is proud to announce the Arena schedule for The Ultimate Disney Fan Event. From August 19 – 21, Expo guests will have exclusive access to presentations from The Walt Disney Studios, Walt Disney Parks & Resorts, Disney Channel and Marvel Comics – plus they will be able to experience the 2011 Disney Legends Ceremony. In addition to the spotlight arena presentations, this year’s Expo will feature screenings, celebrity panels and autograph signings, eye-popping pavilions, exclusive insights into TV shows, theme parks, animation, Disney history and more, to be announced in the coming weeks. Arena presentations will include:

Friday, August 19, 2011

11:00 a.m. – 12:30 p.m. 2011 Disney Legends Ceremony – Hosted by Tom Bergeron. Honorees Regis Philbin; Jim Henson; Disney Princesses Jodi Benson, Paige O’Hara, Lea Salonga, Linda Larkin and Anika Noni Rose; Bo Boyd; Jack and Bonita Wrather; Guy Williams and Ray Watson will be inducted as Disney Legends for their contribution to the creative legacy of The Walt Disney Company in a special presentation exclusively for D23 Expo guests.

3:30 p.m. – 5:00 p.m. Walt Disney Parks and Resorts – Join Tom Staggs, Chairman of Walt Disney Parks & Resorts, as he gives D23 guests a special behind-the-scenes glimpse into some of the exciting projects currently underway at Disney’s parks and resorts around the world.

Saturday, August 20, 2011

11:00 a.m. – 12:30 p.m. The Walt Disney Studios – A fascinating behind-the-scenes glimpse at the exciting roster of projects on the horizon at The Walt Disney Studios. From exclusive video clips and live performances to filmmaker discussions and star appearances, this session will be hosted by Rich Ross, Chairman, The Walt Disney Studios; Sean Bailey, President of Production, The Walt Disney Studios; John Lasseter, Chief Creative Officer, Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar Animation Studios; and Kevin Feige, President of Production, Marvel Studios.

6:00 p.m. – 7:30 p.m. The Lion King 3D Exclusive D23 Screening– Disney fans will have access to an exclusive advance screening of The Lion King in Disney Digital 3D™, ahead of the film’s highly anticipated theatrical and home entertainment releases. "The Circle of Life" takes on a new dimension as Simba, Mufasa, Nala, Timon and Pumbaa grace the screen once again, this time in breathtaking 3D.

Sunday, August 21, 2011

10:00 a.m. – 11:30 a.m. Marvel Comics – An exclusive and unprecedented experience that will take you through the evolution of Marvel from its first comic book in 1939 to its current position as one of the most important creative forces in the world. During this presentation, which will include interactive Q&A segments, you will not only get an inside glimpse of the history of Marvel and its iconic Super Heroes but also discover why Marvel truly is the House of Ideas. This session will be hosted by Joe Quesada, Marvel's Chief Creative Officer and one of the most respected and sought after writers and artists in the entertainment industry.

2:30 p.m. – 4:00 p.m. Disney Channel – Fans are invited to experience the excitement of a spectacular live performance, featuring stars of Disney Channel’s hit series Shake It Up. From meeting the cast of television's first dance-driven sitcom and learning moves from a Disney Channel dance master to a special panel, autograph session and more, this unforgettable experience awaits Disney fans of all ages.

These presentations add to the already robust schedule of experiences, presentations and pavilions that will make up the D23 Expo 2011, including the Ultimate Disney Trivia Tournament presented by Hasbro's Trivial Pursuit, the Treasures of the Walt Disney Archives exhibit – including the Fan Art Gallery, the D23 Expo Live Auction and the D23 Expo Dream Store. Additional schedule, pavilion and talent announcements will be made in the coming weeks.

Tickets to the D23 EXPO are available at http://www.D23Expo.com. Admission includes access to all experiences and entertainment at the D23 EXPO, including the Disney Legends Ceremony, and can be purchased for single days or for the full three days of festivities. Admission is $47 for a one-day adult ticket and $37 for children 3-12. Three-day passes are $136 for adults and $106 for children. Members of D23: The Official Disney Fan Club will receive a discount for up to four admissions, as well as early entry to each day of the D23 EXPO for themselves and their guests.

About D23 Expo 2011
The D23 Expo: The Ultimate Disney Event for Fans and Families brings the entire world of Disney under one roof, providing guests with unprecedented access to Disney films, television and theme parks.

CynthiaC925
07-16-2011, 04:18 AM
Hi I hope to meet you and other disers at the expo. I am one of the nuts who purchased a sorcerers pkg cuz I didn't want to miss a thing. Now with the power of ten I wish I had put the money to that but have done 10 friends times ten. Now if I could only get creative about how to leverage the expo to raise money for the power of ten...