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Natalie's Mommy
06-23-2011, 09:24 PM
:headache:

SO i bought two grace natalius at toys are u because they were $50 off this weekend, got them home and put them together and one of them has the total WRONG harness and buckles with it. they look like they go to a smaller carseat, but it's everything, the straps are shorter, the latch and tether adjustments are different (and i NEED the latch and tether adjustments that are supose to be on the natalius to get it tight enough in the hubby's civic, the crotch buckle is the kind you push in instead of with the little ledge to push down (which was a HUGE dissapointment!!!) and of course because it's sunday i can't just call, and i did call toys r us and they sold the 3rd carseat they had in that print so i cant just take it back and swap it out.


im sooooo fricken annoyed right now, the two carseats were made 3 days apart for crying out loud! what possibly could have changed since the 15th-18th of april!



I'm having a huge delema and i need some help, reassurance, guidance BUT NO FLAMING!!! If you get to the end of this i thank you!

Emma and Natalie are currently in Radian 80's in my car and evenflo carseats similar to the generation 65 in my husband's car. Emma is 6 years old, weighs 45lbs and is on the the top harness slot of her carseats. She has some room to grow in the Radian but not much, and she is going to very shortly outgrow the ability to use the harness in the evenflo. Also the evenflo's (both) were made in 2006 (if someone could find out if these seats are good for 5 years or 6 i would really appreciate it!) and are getting to the end of their life. In the radian she can no longer use the latch since it is not suggested for use over 42lbs and they are not the super latch version.

I also need a bigger carseat for Grace (my daycare baby) since she is quickly going to outgrow the comfortsport that i currently use for her.

In a perfect world i would buy Emma 2 new radians with super latch (one for my car and one for Jeremy's) and that would be the end of it but at $200+ a pop that is just not in the budget, and then i'd still have to buy Natalie something for my husband's car in the next year or so.

so what i'm leaning towards is getting Natalie a Graco Nautilus for my husband's car and getting Emma two graco turboboosters (one for my car and one for Jeremy's) but i'm having a really really really hard time with this decision. I really wanted to keep my kids in a 5 point harness until they were out of carseats but financially it just isn't lookling like it's going to happen. i know plenty of people put kids younger than mine in booster seats so why is this such a problem for me.

Lstar311
06-23-2011, 09:43 PM
Its so hard for you because you are a good momma who wants to do the safest thing for her children. I'm sorry my oldest just turned 4 and is still in his 5 point harness so I don't really know all the stats for a booster seat because I'm not thinking of one yet so I can't really help you that much.

Is she in one car more than the other? I don't know if at 6 I'd be wanting to buy another carseat though. What about one of the boosters that has a high back and converts to just the seat? I wish I could help more but I haven't done any booster research yet. I think if she meets the height and age requirements you are ok though.

QVCshopper
06-23-2011, 10:11 PM
I have giant children and they were moved to boosters at 4; they just didn't fit in the five point harness anymore and were well above the height and weight limit. For example, my DD is also 6, and she is 53" tall and weighs 65 lbs. We have the Graco turboboosters and the kids like them.

BTW, car seats have expiration dates on them. Just look at your seat and I'm sure you can find it.

sookie
06-23-2011, 10:28 PM
look into the CLEK boosters. expensive but could be well used for your 6 year old.

MSSANDRA
06-23-2011, 11:00 PM
Sometimes you can get the graco nautilus on sale for less than 150.00. Your child is smaller at 6 than our 4 year old is and he has a lot of grow room in his GN. Perhaps look for the best deal and then cut back somewhere else. Truth is a LOT of our friends kids do ride is high back belted booster younger and smaller than your child. I could not make that choice but sometimes you do what you have to do.

allison443
06-24-2011, 12:22 AM
Do you really need to get seats for both your car and your husband's car? Does one of you drive them to school and the other one pick them up or something? Unless it's really necessary, you could get by with just one seat per kid. That's what I always did. Yes, it's not as convenient but it can easily be done. :)

aprilgail2
06-24-2011, 05:41 AM
I have giant children and they were moved to boosters at 4; they just didn't fit in the five point harness anymore and were well above the height and weight limit. For example, my DD is also 6, and she is 53" tall and weighs 65 lbs. We have the Graco turboboosters and the kids like them.

BTW, car seats have expiration dates on them. Just look at your seat and I'm sure you can find it.

Wow-your daughter is tall! she is the same height and weight as my 7th grader LOL.

DisneyAndRedSox
06-24-2011, 06:03 AM
Sometimes you can get the graco nautilus on sale for less than 150.00. Your child is smaller at 6 than our 4 year old is and he has a lot of grow room in his GN. Perhaps look for the best deal and then cut back somewhere else. Truth is a LOT of our friends kids do ride is high back belted booster younger and smaller than your child. I could not make that choice but sometimes you do what you have to do.

Target is starting to clearance one of the colors. This is how I got mine 50% off 2 years ago.

Just an FYI, the nautilus has only one position for the crotch strap. My 5.5 year old (solid kid, close to 60 pounds) really started to complain that the buckle was bothering her. I had to stop using the nautilus since I have a narrow back seat and the car seat is so wide I couldn't use it with the seat belt. The car seat actually sat on top of the buckle in my car. I think my car is the exception since I had the same problem with a turbo booster. It was a tough decision but she is now using the seat belt with high-back booster. But she is the same size at some kids 2 years older than her. So, I am now using a turbo booster in DH's car (04 Rav4) and the Harmony Dreamtime in my car (05 X3)

NYEmomma
06-24-2011, 06:36 AM
I'm not very familiar with the seats you currently have so maybe my suggestion won't work for you, but what about the Safety 1st Alpha Omega Elite?

We just got this one for my parent's car for DD since it can be a RF'ing & FF'ing car seat AND converts to a booster.

They're only about $140-$150 at BRU.

Swimalie
06-24-2011, 06:56 AM
Is there any way you can get away with 1 seat for both cars? I know it might be a pain but you could get a good seat and save money, too. Our son is 6, 42" tall and about 43 pounds. He is in the Britax Frontier. We just got a new car last weekend and changed him from the 5 point harness to the seat belt booster. The back is still on it although it will convert to a backless booster eventually. The Britax Frontier is a great seat that has several positions for the center clip if needed. It is .3 inches shorter in the shoulders than the Nautilus, however. The frontier goes to 100 lbs and 7 years, too. It would be one that you could use for your oldest and possibly pass it down to Grace one day as well.

TandLMommy28
06-24-2011, 07:05 AM
Totally crazy because my kids are in Radian XTs in my car and Evenflos in my husband's car! :) We bought her Evenflo in 2006 (and I'm just about positive it's 5 years on those). And she weighs 45 pounds... she is super tall though, over 4 feet at her 6 year check!

I would go with the Graco Nautilus, honestly. Because it converts to a booster, you aren't shelling out MORE money later so the long term savings is there. And do you have to buy them both in one shot? Can you buy one now and one in a few months? Spread out the cost, ya know? But if you caught a good sale, you could get Britax Frontier 85 seats because those last to a taller height and they also turn into boosters so in the long run you are covered.

Good luck deciding. I am struggling, too, with when to move my 6 year old to a high back booster. It's such a hard decision after I started reading about Kyle (KyleDavidMiller.org). Kyle changed my life (he died the day after my 6 year old was born and that fact rocked my world a little!).

lmbcdb
06-24-2011, 07:17 AM
. Emma is 6 years old, weighs 45lbs and is on the the top harness slot of her carseats..
I know you want to keep them in 5 point harnesses, but if she is 45 pounds and over 40", then she is big enough to just use a regular booster. The seatbelt will keep her safe - they wouldn't make the reccommendations on the height/weight if they weren't. You might want to consider it - it would be a cheaper option, and she would still be safe. I did quite a bit of research before switching my kids on American Association of Pediatric's website.

lovemy4sweeties
06-24-2011, 07:34 AM
This is where I go to for all of my car seat questions:
http://community.babycenter.com/groups/a7645/car_seat_questions

How tall is Emma? My dd was in her Radian 65 until she outgrew the height at almost 8 years old. My ds outgrew it at about 7.5. We bought them both a Sunshine Kids Monterery Booster which they are both currently using. My dd is 9.5 and my ds turned 8 in April. We want to keep my dd in her booster until after our trip to WDW in Oct/Nov. We're driving 22-24 hours each way, and we feel much safer with her in her booster. After the trip we will consider allowing her to just use a seatbelt as long as she meets the 5 step test (this is to go from booster to regular seat belt, so you most likely wont need this info for at least a few years. I thought I'd post it anyway so you'd know. I had no idea there were guidelines to follow when going from booster to regular seat belt:
The 5-Step Test
1. Does the child sit all the way back against the auto seat?
2. Do the child's knees bend comfortably at the edge of the auto seat?
3. Does the belt cross the shoulder between the neck and arm?
4. Is the lap belt as low as possible, touching the thighs?
5. Can the child stay seated like this for the whole trip?

I would 5 point harness as long as possible, although like you said, most people move their children to boosters younger than age 6. I had a friend move her very little 3 yo to a booster because it was more convenient for her. I agree with pp's suggestion of just buying one car seat for now and just move it when she is riding in the other car. It can be a pain, but we've done that for years and we have 5 kids to switch around. It's not usually all 5 moving to the other car all at once.

Good Luck with your decision :) . I think it's great that you're inquiring about this. Most people just do whatever is easier for them.

Momto4boys
06-24-2011, 07:49 AM
I am often in a similar situation. My son is almost 6 and not a lot over 40 lbs. We have a mixture of Radians, Monterey and a HB Graco Turbobooster. I don't mind him in the booster when we're just driving around our very small town. He's not going to fall asleep on those drives. For the longer drives that it's hard to keep in a good position for I make sure he's in the Radian no matter what. Is that an option? Have the Radian in the vehicle she is in mostly and a TB for the 2nd seat? I'd say my son uses the booster 10% of the time he's actually out in a vehicle but it's good training time! We discuss how to sit and how it works.

Diegosmom
06-24-2011, 07:58 AM
A little confused on the ages of the kids lol...

But just wanted to say I know money can be tight but if something were to happen (car accident) and you child was injured because they were only in a booster and not in a 5 point harness would it be worth the savings?

Please dont take this the wrong way (as there was a bit of time I was researching when my 4 year old could sit in the front so it would be easier...yeah its a long way off...lol).

I just think you must be a good mom (obviously since you are posting here) and for younger children the 5 point harness really is the best place for them.

Good Luck

tinker&belle
06-24-2011, 08:00 AM
Remember when you buy a Nautilus, it can later be used as a highback and low back booster. We got older dd one for grandma's car. She rides in a frontier in mine and a Regent in Dh's. It is a good budget choice when you consider the it becomes both types of boosters.

cheap traveler
06-24-2011, 08:36 AM
In NY your kids have to be in carseats until they are 8 years old, there is no way they could be in a harness until they are out of carseats. My 2 girls are: DD almost 5, 43", 42lbs - in a turbo booster. And DD7.5 is 51", 62lbs and in a backless booster.

If it gives you peace of mind, spend the extra money and get the seats with harnesses. You can't put a price tag on peace of mind. I felt fully comfortable moving my younger DD into a booster 2 years ago because 3.5 years ago both my girls were in a rollover car accident, and older DD was in a booster and came out of it with not so much as a scratch or bruise.

As for how long your current seats are good for, check the bottom of the seat - they print expiration dates on them. It's a pain to get it out and buckle it back in, but you will know exactly how long they recommend you to use it.

Good luck with your decision :goodvibes

Natalie's Mommy
06-24-2011, 09:55 AM
Do you really need to get seats for both your car and your husband's car? Does one of you drive them to school and the other one pick them up or something? Unless it's really necessary, you could get by with just one seat per kid. That's what I always did. Yes, it's not as convenient but it can easily be done. :)

yes we need carseats for both cars, i have 3 carseats across the back of my car and once they are in they don't come out because it usually takes some work to get it back in

I have giant children and they were moved to boosters at 4; they just didn't fit in the five point harness anymore and were well above the height and weight limit. For example, my DD is also 6, and she is 53" tall and weighs 65 lbs. We have the Graco turboboosters and the kids like them.

BTW, car seats have expiration dates on them. Just look at your seat and I'm sure you can find it.

i would not feel comfortable moving my kids to booster seats at 4, they still fall asleep in the car alot, and the rule of thumb is 5 point harness until they can maintain the proper position and my kids are such monkeys i know they wouldn't :banana:
I'm not very familiar with the seats you currently have so maybe my suggestion won't work for you, but what about the Safety 1st Alpha Omega Elite?

We just got this one for my parent's car for DD since it can be a RF'ing & FF'ing car seat AND converts to a booster.

They're only about $140-$150 at BRU.

Sorry i thought i put ages, Emma is 6 and Natalie will be 4 next month. so she has well outgrown the alpha omega elite, which btw most kids outgrow in height before they get close to the weight max

Totally crazy because my kids are in Radian XTs in my car and Evenflos in my husband's car! :) We bought her Evenflo in 2006 (and I'm just about positive it's 5 years on those). And she weighs 45 pounds... she is super tall though, over 4 feet at her 6 year check!

I would go with the Graco Nautilus, honestly. Because it converts to a booster, you aren't shelling out MORE money later so the long term savings is there. And do you have to buy them both in one shot? Can you buy one now and one in a few months? Spread out the cost, ya know? But if you caught a good sale, you could get Britax Frontier 85 seats because those last to a taller height and they also turn into boosters so in the long run you are covered.

Good luck deciding. I am struggling, too, with when to move my 6 year old to a high back booster. It's such a hard decision after I started reading about Kyle (KyleDavidMiller.org). Kyle changed my life (he died the day after my 6 year old was born and that fact rocked my world a little!).

i need to replace the two evenflo's in the very near furture, i could wait on the radian for my car a little bit, but my daycare baby is outgrowing her comfortsport (man that was a porrly thought out construction!) so my plan was to get something new for Emma and move Grace into Emma's radian

I know you want to keep them in 5 point harnesses, but if she is 45 pounds and over 40", then she is big enough to just use a regular booster. The seatbelt will keep her safe - they wouldn't make the reccommendations on the height/weight if they weren't. You might want to consider it - it would be a cheaper option, and she would still be safe. I did quite a bit of research before switching my kids on American Association of Pediatric's website.

actually it is reccomended that if your children still frequently fall asleep on trips in the car they are safer in a 5 point harness. and seatbelts often can fail in a crash, especally if the child is able to keep themselves in the proper position, or if the seatbelt dosnt fit in the proper position in their carseat

I am often in a similar situation. My son is almost 6 and not a lot over 40 lbs. We have a mixture of Radians, Monterey and a HB Graco Turbobooster. I don't mind him in the booster when we're just driving around our very small town. He's not going to fall asleep on those drives. For the longer drives that it's hard to keep in a good position for I make sure he's in the Radian no matter what. Is that an option? Have the Radian in the vehicle she is in mostly and a TB for the 2nd seat? I'd say my son uses the booster 10% of the time he's actually out in a vehicle but it's good training time! We discuss how to sit and how it works.

the kids actually ride in both cars equally, and now that it's summer i would actually say that when we don't have all 3 of them we take my husband's car more. the radians have to stay in my car so i can have 3 carseats across the backseat (i go places with my daycare baby often)

A little confused on the ages of the kids lol...

But just wanted to say I know money can be tight but if something were to happen (car accident) and you child was injured because they were only in a booster and not in a 5 point harness would it be worth the savings?

Please dont take this the wrong way (as there was a bit of time I was researching when my 4 year old could sit in the front so it would be easier...yeah its a long way off...lol).

I just think you must be a good mom (obviously since you are posting here) and for younger children the 5 point harness really is the best place for them.

Good Luck

thanks! im just sooo torn, im going back and forth on this decision. i was actually gonna go look at carseats today but i woke up with the worse stiff neck and upper back so taking 3 kids out and about is not something i want to do!

In NY your kids have to be in carseats until they are 8 years old, there is no way they could be in a harness until they are out of carseats. My 2 girls are: DD almost 5, 43", 42lbs - in a turbo booster. And DD7.5 is 51", 62lbs and in a backless booster.

As for how long your current seats are good for, check the bottom of the seat - they print expiration dates on them. It's a pain to get it out and buckle it back in, but you will know exactly how long they recommend you to use it.

Good luck with your decision :goodvibes

it is possible to 5 point harness them until they are 8, if you buy the right seats, but i need to be able to have 3 carseats across the back of my car (because even when i dont have grace i often take my mom and grandma places)

The bottom of the carseat is the one place i didn't check, and now its at work in my husband's car so ill have to get him to do it :lmao:

Swimalie
06-24-2011, 10:04 AM
i would not feel comfortable moving my kids to booster seats at 4, they still fall asleep in the car alot, and the rule of thumb is 5 point harness until they can maintain the proper position and my kids are such monkeys i know they wouldn't :banana:



Keep in mind that you can get a high back booster. When we changed our son's Frontier this past weekend, all it did was take off the harness straps. The same seat is intact with the side impact protection. He can fall asleep just as well as he could with the 5-point. Sounds like you need to find a seat that will still offer some body support then. I know the Frontier does that in high back booster mode. It also converts to a no back booster but we're a long way off from that one!

scrapquitler
06-24-2011, 11:21 AM
Do you really need to get seats for both your car and your husband's car? Does one of you drive them to school and the other one pick them up or something? Unless it's really necessary, you could get by with just one seat per kid. That's what I always did. Yes, it's not as convenient but it can easily be done. :)

Well, it's not ideal because with many car/carseat combos it is very difficult to get the seat installed properly. If you move a seat on a regular basis, chances are that it is not installed properly. I went to a car seat thing where the techs checked the carseats for you, and they told me that very few people actually have their seats installed snugly enough and properly. If you want to be as safe as possible, it's better to have it professionally installed and not switch it.

adisneymama
06-24-2011, 11:50 AM
I know you want to keep them in 5 point harnesses, but if she is 45 pounds and over 40", then she is big enough to just use a regular booster. The seatbelt will keep her safe - they wouldn't make the reccommendations on the height/weight if they weren't. You might want to consider it - it would be a cheaper option, and she would still be safe. I did quite a bit of research before switching my kids on American Association of Pediatric's website.

Not necessarily true. It depends on how well she sits in the booster. If she is able to sit up in the seat at all times, doesn't lean over out of the seat when sleeping etc and doesn't try leaning forward to pick up something she dropped then she is ready for the booster. Not until. She may meet height/weight restrictions but that doesn't mean she is safe. Only proper use makes them safe.

That said, I do have a nautilus for my 4 yr old in my dh's car and we like it. I can't really recommend a seat because they don't always work in every car. It will be trial and error. G/L!

ceecee
06-24-2011, 12:35 PM
Wow-your daughter is tall! she is the same height and weight as my 7th grader LOL.

That is tall for that age!!! She may meet the height requirement for a booster, right? Our local fire dept does car seat checks yearly to see if the child is okay with the seat they are in.

Natalie's Mommy
06-24-2011, 01:03 PM
Not necessarily true. It depends on how well she sits in the booster. If she is able to sit up in the seat at all times, doesn't lean over out of the seat when sleeping etc and doesn't try leaning forward to pick up something she dropped then she is ready for the booster. Not until. She may meet height/weight restrictions but that doesn't mean she is safe. Only proper use makes them safe.

That said, I do have a nautilus for my 4 yr old in my dh's car and we like it. I can't really recommend a seat because they don't always work in every car. It will be trial and error. G/L!


how does it not work in every car? my husband has a honda civic and the nautilus would be for his car

bumbershoot
06-24-2011, 01:27 PM
In NY your kids have to be in carseats until they are 8 years old, there is no way they could be in a harness until they are out of carseats.

The Britax Frontier could take them pretty close, depending on how tall they get. But it's BIG, so she couldn't put all 3 of them across.

He can fall asleep just as well as he could with the 5-point.

Having just gone to the highback booster mode with the Nautilus (and I went kicking and screaming like the OP, because I only thought of weight and not height when I bought the Nautilus and am so annoyed that we didn't buy the Frontier), I can tell you that a kid gets used to the harness holding them in/back. A kid can fall asleep leaning just a tad forward, and the harness will keep them back, but the seatbelt has such give (until you slam on the brakes) that it will let you get WAY out of position.

I'm having to keep an eagle-eye on my son now just like I did when he was an infant in his seat... He's also getting used to the relative freedom of the seatbelt and figuring out what he can do vs can't, and what he SHOULD do vs shouldn't.

But the point is...a seatbelt doesn't keep a kid in any sort of position as they fall asleep, if they are used to having the harness hold them up a bit.


how does it not work in every car? my husband has a honda civic and the nautilus would be for his car

Not every seat works in every car. You can't get that same fit in every car.

So when you go carseat shopping, make sure you can bring the seat(s) out to your car to test them out.



Remember that the Nautilus doesn't go as "high" as one expects with the 65 pound harness weight. That's where I got lost. Shouldn't have...DS was out of his Snugride BEFORE 4 months old because of his height, so I really should have expected this (he's only 51 pounds but the top slot doesn't lie!).

So you will want to see how many inches she'll have (the oldest) in the Nautilus, before switching to the seatbelt.

And I will say...even though I hated switching him to the seatbelt, and even though he's been experimenting a bit and I have to keep an eye on him, it's been just fine.

Though now I have to re-read the manual about the top of the seat, because he's getting close to that, too, and we might have to go to no-back booster mode way sooner than I expected!

Ach, tall kids! Kid's a new 7 and is nearly up to my shoulder already. Glad for him, but wow it's weird for me!

QVCshopper
06-24-2011, 02:52 PM
"i would not feel comfortable moving my kids to booster seats at 4, they still fall asleep in the car alot, and the rule of thumb is 5 point harness until they can maintain the proper position and my kids are such monkeys i know they wouldn't "

Well, at 4, my kids were bigger than your 6 year old, and they haven't napped in over three years. They have more energy than I do! But, maybe I will look into one of these extended car seats if I have another who grows slower. All of my previous car seats have expired, so I gave them to Babies R Us to crush down. Tall kids, and thus heavy, kids do throw a wrench in the car seat issue.

Nanu57v
06-24-2011, 03:08 PM
I have giant children and they were moved to boosters at 4; they just didn't fit in the five point harness anymore and were well above the height and weight limit. For example, my DD is also 6, and she is 53" tall and weighs 65 lbs. We have the Graco turboboosters and the kids like them.

BTW, car seats have expiration dates on them. Just look at your seat and I'm sure you can find it.

My seats just have manufactured dates. My youngest's carseat (hand-me-down) says manufactured 11/20/05, so I know it'll expire in a few months since Britax are good for 6 years.


My DD 6 is 46 inches and 43 pounds. We bought her a Graco Nautilus when she grew out of her Britax Roundabout. Since birth, we've only had one carseat for 2 vehicles, and just took the "carseat" vehicle when the kids were coming. However, just recently we bought a Turbobooster (with the back) for the 2nd vehicle. When she was in preschool most of the kids were in backless boosters, and she had her carseat yet...I always volunteered to drive. Now she just completed K and in still in it! :rotfl: DH says I'm overprotective...

Swimalie
06-24-2011, 03:51 PM
My seats just have manufactured dates. My youngest's carseat (hand-me-down) says manufactured 11/20/05, so I know it'll expire in a few months since Britax are good for 6 years.

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Double check but I'm pretty sure Britax expire at 7 years. Although I might be remembering that wrong. So far our son has outgrown his (Boulevard) before the expiration date so we haven't dealt with it yet.

Nanu57v
06-24-2011, 04:26 PM
Double check but I'm pretty sure Britax expire at 7 years. Although I might be remembering that wrong. So far our son has outgrown his (Boulevard) before the expiration date so we haven't dealt with it yet.

That'd be fine with me! We use it as an extra seat. We bought my youngest DD a new Marathon so that she would have her own seat until hopefully she's in a booster.

monkey30
06-24-2011, 05:14 PM
Well, I will be no help for what type of seat to get!

My 8 almost 9yr old is still in a booster, hates it, but still in it!
6yr old just went to a booster he was to tall for the car seat (short legs long torso and 49")so we decided it was probaly better to do the booster, since the straps were so far down his back at the highest point, and his head was over the top of the seat.

littlest one, just got turned around at 18mths because he was having a hard time rear facing, our seat is rated to 65lbs forward and 40 rear, its a Graco. However this one is thin enough in the base, and fits great in my truck.

I agree try to get the seat in and leave it!

An_Island_Girl
06-24-2011, 06:26 PM
Our DD7 is in a Graco Nautilus in all of our cars and one in the grandparents also. She's still in the 5 point harness, and I think we can get a few mores years out of it still. At 49" and around 55 pounds, we haven't encountered any issues with it.

There is no price tag on safety!

Minniemouse07
06-24-2011, 07:04 PM
My dd (now almost 10yo) is long torsoed so she outgrew everything by height before weight.

I was in a car crash (everyone fine except the car and ergo the car seats...totaled) two weeks before the Nautilus hit the shelves.

Dd was 6.5yo at the time and rode in a Britax Husky (precursor to the Regent which was the precursor to the Frontier), and ds (just barely 2yo, by weeks) was riding rear facing in a Britax Boulevard. Additionally, ds was riding in dd's old convertible in our second vehicle...a Britax Advantage (precursor to the Boulevard) that was about to expire in two months!

At the time... the Nautilus looked to be our best option. I had a difficult time rationalizing dropping big bucks to replace dd's Husky since she was 6.5yo (it didn't convert to a booster), and I REALLY didn't want to buy THREE of them!

Ds was also 33lbs. I couldn't rationalize purchasing a new convertible seat for 2lbs (there weren't any higher weight rear facing seats back then) so I

I ended up scouring every Walmart in a 50 mile radius to find the very first Nautilus seats available. Graco only released them in Walmart for the first few months. I spoke w/ a lot of clueless Walmart employees but tracked two down.

Ds got a Regent as well since both of his seats needed replacing. The Regent and the Nautilus were the primary seats for ds and dd respectively.

Dd was able to be harnessed in the Nautilus until she was 7.5yo when we switched it to booster (high back). She is now almost 10yo and sits in a low back booster in our secondary car (Clek Olli) and a Sunshine Kids Monterey Booster in our primary vehicle. She doesn't pass the 5 step test in either vehicle.

Ds is 5.5yo and is still in his Regent in our primary vehicle and the Nautilus in the secondary vehicle.

Neither of them has complained about the crotch strap bothering them and we have successfully installed the Nautilus in a few different vehicles.

Not sure how much that all helps? :confused3

MinnieForMe
06-24-2011, 08:08 PM
My daughter is also 6 and I've made the decision to keep her in a five point harness. I know the new Britax is out of your budget but I was shocked to see a huge (looked as big as my new Britax) with a 5 point harness at Walmart. This was about 6 months ago and it was cheap (under $70). Take a look just in case it will meet your needs. I'm sorry I don't know the name.

MarriedToAPrince
06-24-2011, 09:54 PM
I am as big of a carseat nut as they come. Here is my input.

If you have any questions, the best place to ask is www.car-seat.org. Secondly, my daughter is 41.50 inches and 39lbs at 3.5 years old. I just placed and order today for a Britax Frontier 85 and an Evenflo Maestro. I wouldn't recommend the Maestro because it only harnesses to 50lbs, however I would recommend the Graco Nautilus for your daughter. While she is 6 years old, she is very small for her age and I prefer to keep kiddos harnessed longer for the added safety. Yes there are height and weight recommendations for boosters, but as we know with the most recent change in recommendations from the American Academy of Pediatrics, you should keep your child rear facing and harnessed as long as possible.

Currently you can get the Nautilus for $137.98 on Amazon with free shipping. Here is the link:
http://www.amazon.com/Graco-Nautilus-Car-Seat-Matrix/dp/B0011URFRE

Now you had mentioned that your other seats were manufactored in 2006. Most car seats have 5 to 6 years expiration dates, so that would me that they either expire this year or next. If you look on the side of the seats the expiration date should be printed on the stickers but if you can't find it you can always check out the manufactorer websites for information regarding the expirations.

If the seats expire next year then maybe you could use one of your old ones for the child you watch and be able to purchase to Nautilus' for your daughter. The other thing that is an option is that if your daughter is slow growing you could check her torso height and compare it to the Maestro slot heights and maybe consider getting one of those for your second vehicle until you can save up for another harnessed seat or your daughter is ready for booster training. I purchased one on Amazon for $73.XX.

MarriedToAPrince
06-24-2011, 09:59 PM
yes we need carseats for both cars, i have 3 carseats across the back of my car and once they are in they don't come out because it usually takes some work to get it back in



i would not feel comfortable moving my kids to booster seats at 4, they still fall asleep in the car alot, and the rule of thumb is 5 point harness until they can maintain the proper position and my kids are such monkeys i know they wouldn't :banana:


Sorry i thought i put ages, Emma is 6 and Natalie will be 4 next month. so she has well outgrown the alpha omega elite, which btw most kids outgrow in height before they get close to the weight max



i need to replace the two evenflo's in the very near furture, i could wait on the radian for my car a little bit, but my daycare baby is outgrowing her comfortsport (man that was a porrly thought out construction!) so my plan was to get something new for Emma and move Grace into Emma's radian



actually it is reccomended that if your children still frequently fall asleep on trips in the car they are safer in a 5 point harness. and seatbelts often can fail in a crash, especally if the child is able to keep themselves in the proper position, or if the seatbelt dosnt fit in the proper position in their carseat



the kids actually ride in both cars equally, and now that it's summer i would actually say that when we don't have all 3 of them we take my husband's car more. the radians have to stay in my car so i can have 3 carseats across the backseat (i go places with my daycare baby often)



thanks! im just sooo torn, im going back and forth on this decision. i was actually gonna go look at carseats today but i woke up with the worse stiff neck and upper back so taking 3 kids out and about is not something i want to do!



it is possible to 5 point harness them until they are 8, if you buy the right seats, but i need to be able to have 3 carseats across the back of my car (because even when i dont have grace i often take my mom and grandma places)

The bottom of the carseat is the one place i didn't check, and now its at work in my husband's car so ill have to get him to do it :lmao:

If you need three across then definitely post on www.car-seat.org. You can post your vehicle information and they can tell you what works in your vehicle.

*Seanaci*
06-25-2011, 12:29 AM
My parents bought a carseat (tall-back booster...believe it's an Eddie Bauer) when my nephew turned 18 months. That was back in 2007. Our son is using it in my DH's car...just installed it tonight as a matter of fact (needed to put the little boy I babysit in a bigger carseat, so he'll be in the other Evenflo Generations that was in DH's car). Anywho. While I was installing the carseat in DH's car tonight...I looked for the exp date...it was printed/raised on the back of the seat (Dec 2013).

Anywho! No ideas on what to move your daughter to. When DS is old/big enough, we have a Clek (won it at a Baby expo when he was 6 months old) for him to use. Until then, he'll be in his Evenflo Generations. :D

Good luck!!

ETA: For your situation...not moving the carseats is smart. It's tough enough to get 2 in correctly, let alone all 3. :) Not to mention...when you move carseats from car to car, you may not always get it in there the safest way (I was told this by a car seat inspector a few years ago). So it's always safest to have a carseat in each car the child rides in. :D

danceintherain
06-25-2011, 12:55 AM
I know you said you use both your cars pretty equally, so this suggestion might have already been made, however... Could you get a booster for one car and spend money on a more expensive car seat for the other? Obviously, this is a bit risky, since you have no idea which car will have an accident, but you would have a 50/50 chance.
You could at least go with the car with the better car seat when you'll be out for long periods time when you children would be more likely to fall asleep.

adisneymama
06-25-2011, 02:28 PM
how does it not work in every car? my husband has a honda civic and the nautilus would be for his car

Every car and seat belt type are different. Some seats fit no problem others will not get a proper install. Check out carseat.org they have tons of info. I'm not saying it wouldn't fit in that specific car. But it isn't a one shop fits all with any seat. Like I said we have a Nautilus and we like it. It is in my dh's truck.

MSSANDRA
06-25-2011, 03:56 PM
FYI- The Nautilus fits in our Honda Civic fine. We use the latch system with it.

Belle5
06-25-2011, 06:49 PM
I am leaning toward a Graco Turbo Booster Anders for my 7 year old (almost 8). He's 48 inches tall and weighs 51 pounds. Opinions?

Disney_Tall_Mommy
06-25-2011, 08:42 PM
My daughter is 6, but this past fall (age 5.5) we realized she was too tall for her Alpha Omega carseat, but she only weighed 36 pounds so there was no way I was putting her in a booster. I know plenty of people do it especially at 5, but I did some research and didn't feel comfortable with it. We bought the Nautilus that harnesses up to 65 pounds. She loves the carseat. I think since she only weighs 38 pounds at age 6 she'll probably go from being in a 5 point harness to a regular seat-belt. I don't know of anyone her age that is still in a 5-point harness, but I don't care. I feel she is safer and technically right now she should still be harnessed. I bought mine on sale at Target. It's a light purple and grey and I think it's a lot cooler (temp wise) than the all black one she had.

jessica52877
06-26-2011, 01:55 PM
My kid is worth a million $ to me. So I am happy to spend what I have to keep my son harnessed at 8 1/2. If you work out how much a carseat cost daily they are quite the deal!

Hope you can find something that works.

Natalie's Mommy
06-26-2011, 07:35 PM
updated first post, slamming my head against a wall right now

CarlisleMom
06-26-2011, 09:03 PM
Sit down. Have a cup of coffee or tea. Take a deep breath then:

Go thru the user manual and call the manufacturer in the morning. They most likely will send the new belts/tether. If they can't , return to Toys R Us and get a raincheck if possible or order online.

Meanwhile, I am sure that you could figure out something with the 1 new one and your old seats.

Lots of luck.

tinker&belle
06-26-2011, 09:27 PM
Can you explain how the buckle looks on them? I bought one a few weeks ago and the buckle between the legs is much different than the other ones I am used to. The others are more like seatbelt buckles and this one has a piece I have to push down hard with my thumb. That is my biggest dislike of the seat so far. I wonder if I have the newer or older style?

Natalie's Mommy
06-26-2011, 09:31 PM
Sit down. Have a cup of coffee or tea. Take a deep breath then:

Go thru the user manual and call the manufacturer in the morning. They most likely will send the new belts/tether. If they can't , return to Toys R Us and get a raincheck if possible or order online.

Meanwhile, I am sure that you could figure out something with the 1 new one and your old seats.

Lots of luck.

they wont give a raincheck it said so right on the sign

im gonna call in the AM and hope graco sends me the right stuff i need.

Nanu57v
06-27-2011, 07:50 AM
I'm sure Graco will make it right...if not, just wait for TRus to get another one and swap it out! We've never used latch...at first our cars were too old, and then we we got "new" (to us) cars 3 years ago we were so used to just using the buckle we stayed with it.

adisneymama
06-27-2011, 09:09 AM
Take it back to Toys R Us and have them swap it. I know they don't have any instock but they can order it and they can honor the original price you paid. I think you will have great luck with Graco but if the seat is messed up out of the box I would return it to TRU. They can also check other stores to see if they have any instock.

Natalie's Mommy
06-27-2011, 09:22 AM
i posted on their facebook wall and they admin of their page asked me to e-mail her so i did. hopefully they can get me what i need ASAP because i need these carseats for a trip we are taking on thursday

MinnieForMe
06-28-2011, 05:09 PM
My daughter is 6, but this past fall (age 5.5) we realized she was too tall for her Alpha Omega carseat, but she only weighed 36 pounds so there was no way I was putting her in a booster. I know plenty of people do it especially at 5, but I did some research and didn't feel comfortable with it. We bought the Nautilus that harnesses up to 65 pounds. She loves the carseat. I think since she only weighs 38 pounds at age 6 she'll probably go from being in a 5 point harness to a regular seat-belt. I don't know of anyone her age that is still in a 5-point harness, but I don't care. I feel she is safer and technically right now she should still be harnessed. I bought mine on sale at Target. It's a light purple and grey and I think it's a lot cooler (temp wise) than the all black one she had.

Mine is! 6 years and still in the new Britax! Does your daughter complain that she's the only one still in one? Mine does and I remind her that I love her and want to keep her safe the best way I know how and then I remind her that all families have different rules!

seashoreCM
06-29-2011, 06:05 AM
Does anyone else have this model? Not to buy somewhere else but to see which set of straps is really supposed to come with it. You would not want to do an exchange to find out that the shorter straps were the correct straps.

Otherwise I would take it back immediately and try for an exchange for identical or equal or better at no extra charge.