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ShellyLynn3630
06-22-2011, 04:13 PM
Well Verizon announced it was going to happen. No more unlimited data packages, sometime next month. Whatcha think?

lost*in*cyberspace
06-22-2011, 04:15 PM
I don't think anyone will be surprised. This topic has been discussed here a number of times and the demise of unlimited data was predicted.

RN01
06-22-2011, 04:16 PM
Hmmmm sounds kind of scary to me:eek:

GatorMama
06-22-2011, 04:41 PM
We've always been on the smallest package offered and never got anywhere CLOSE to our limit. Not even 20%

DebMcDonald
06-22-2011, 04:43 PM
Are they grandfathering in those already on the plan or eliminating it altogether?

CoolDisneyCat
06-22-2011, 04:49 PM
People already on unlimited will stay on unlimited

tlbwriter
06-22-2011, 05:00 PM
We've always been on the smallest package offered and never got anywhere CLOSE to our limit. Not even 20%

Yes, but do you use things like HBO GO or other streaming video?

MickeyManiac
06-22-2011, 05:00 PM
I found this.
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/22/verizon-data-plans-leaked-unlimited-users-will-be-grandfathered/

I've been planning to take the leap soon to a smart phone. I'm just doing the Android vs Iphone argument with myself. Guess I better make a decision in the next day or so.

Right now DS is on the $10 data plan and doesn't have a smart phone but I was planning to get him one for Christmas (he's due for a new phone 12/21).
Now I'm thinking about increasing him to unlimited now so he'll be "grandfathered" in. I'm just wondering if we make any change to our contract, like adding the smart phone, if he'll lose the "grandfathered" status.

Oh this is making me crazy.

uk_wildcat
06-22-2011, 05:40 PM
Usually if you get a new phone, you start a "new" contract and you have to use the new plans. This happened to me a couple of years ago. The minutes plan I was on was no longer available and I have to go with a more expensive plan when I got a new phone.

delmar411
06-22-2011, 05:51 PM
I found this.
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/22/verizon-data-plans-leaked-unlimited-users-will-be-grandfathered/

I've been planning to take the leap soon to a smart phone. I'm just doing the Android vs Iphone argument with myself. Guess I better make a decision in the next day or so.

Right now DS is on the $10 data plan and doesn't have a smart phone but I was planning to get him one for Christmas (he's due for a new phone 12/21).
Now I'm thinking about increasing him to unlimited now so he'll be "grandfathered" in. I'm just wondering if we make any change to our contract, like adding the smart phone, if he'll lose the "grandfathered" status.

Oh this is making me crazy.

Hmm, I'll have to check into this. I just added unlimited data to DD's phone because she'll be upgrading in the next year or so and I want unlimited.

ShellyLynn3630
06-22-2011, 05:53 PM
Ok, I am confused. I know they will let me keep my unlimited for now. But what about when my contract ends or I upgrade to another phone. Will the unlimited be good for life?

bdcp
06-22-2011, 06:03 PM
From what I've been told, if you have unlimited, you can keep it even moving on with a new phone. So, yes, there is grandfathering. DH and I have unlimited for our BB. One of our son's does too for his Droid. Our other DS doesn't and isn't planning to go ahead and upgrade since he won't use it really.

ssawka
06-22-2011, 06:11 PM
I found this.
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/22/verizon-data-plans-leaked-unlimited-users-will-be-grandfathered/

I've been planning to take the leap soon to a smart phone. I'm just doing the Android vs Iphone argument with myself. Guess I better make a decision in the next day or so.

Right now DS is on the $10 data plan and doesn't have a smart phone but I was planning to get him one for Christmas (he's due for a new phone 12/21).
Now I'm thinking about increasing him to unlimited now so he'll be "grandfathered" in. I'm just wondering if we make any change to our contract, like adding the smart phone, if he'll lose the "grandfathered" status.

Oh this is making me crazy.

I would not go with iPhone right now, unless speed dosen't matter to you. iPhone 5, when it comes out, is not suppose to provide support for 4G.

Usually if you get a new phone, you start a "new" contract and you have to use the new plans. This happened to me a couple of years ago. The minutes plan I was on was no longer available and I have to go with a more expensive plan when I got a new phone.

Not so, before I upgraded to a smartphone and eliminated my land-line, I was on a calling plan that was discontinued years ago.

Ok, I am confused. I know they will let me keep my unlimited for now. But what about when my contract ends or I upgrade to another phone. Will the unlimited be good for life?

Unless Verizon is going to treat data differently, since it is not actually part of the contract (AFAIK), they generally do not change the terms of the contract when you do an upgrade.

The one thing that I do find annoying is that they are not offering a cheaper plan. They are just restricting your bandwidth on the $30 plan. I was hoping we could lower DW's plan since she doesn't use her phone (for data) nearly as much as I do.

LOVETHATMOUSE
06-22-2011, 07:42 PM
I found this.
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/22/verizon-data-plans-leaked-unlimited-users-will-be-grandfathered/

I've been planning to take the leap soon to a smart phone. I'm just doing the Android vs Iphone argument with myself. Guess I better make a decision in the next day or so.

Right now DS is on the $10 data plan and doesn't have a smart phone but I was planning to get him one for Christmas (he's due for a new phone 12/21).
Now I'm thinking about increasing him to unlimited now so he'll be "grandfathered" in. I'm just wondering if we make any change to our contract, like adding the smart phone, if he'll lose the "grandfathered" status.

Oh this is making me crazy.

I'm in the same boat as you..my dd is probably going to get a smartphone for her 16th birthday in Sept. I am eligible for an upgrade now, so maybe I can give it to her with a smartphone and get her grandfathered in.:confused3

JoiseyMom
06-22-2011, 09:54 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/edit-verizons-datagate-plans-leaked-in-excruciating-detail/

DH uses unlimited data...and man he uses it big time. He is now looking at us going to AT&T. We have a family plan with 3 phones, he is the only one with Data. I need a new phone, and he was going to get his new every 2. We have been with Verizon for over 10 years. He has been evaluating minutes, since most of our friends and family are on Verizon. It will be interesting.

I think Verizon is making a HUGH mistake and they are going to lose LOTS of customers.

CathrynRose
06-23-2011, 12:26 AM
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/edit-verizons-datagate-plans-leaked-in-excruciating-detail/

I think Verizon is making a HUGH mistake and they are going to lose LOTS of customers.


To who? Every company is doing it. TMobile was the first ~ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/05/t-mobile-ditches-unlimited-data-for-new-tiers-shared-family-data.ars

ssawka
06-23-2011, 06:03 AM
I think Verizon is making a HUGH mistake and they are going to lose LOTS of customers.

I'm not so sure that it is purely a business decision. I think they also feel that their systems/network can't handle the load as more and more people switch to Smartphones and 4G.

RachaelA
06-23-2011, 07:01 AM
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/edit-verizons-datagate-plans-leaked-in-excruciating-detail/

DH uses unlimited data...and man he uses it big time. He is now looking at us going to AT&T. We have a family plan with 3 phones, he is the only one with Data. I need a new phone, and he was going to get his new every 2. We have been with Verizon for over 10 years. He has been evaluating minutes, since most of our friends and family are on Verizon. It will be interesting.

I think Verizon is making a HUGH mistake and they are going to lose LOTS of customers.

You do know AT&T did away with unlimited data a while ago right? Same with TMobile.

I'm curious if everyone will truly be grandfathered in even when they upgrade. That's all I'm concerned about. I want my unlimited data forever!

RadioFanatic
06-23-2011, 07:06 AM
Usually if you get a new phone, you start a "new" contract and you have to use the new plans. This happened to me a couple of years ago. The minutes plan I was on was no longer available and I have to go with a more expensive plan when I got a new phone.

not true with AT&T. I have gotten a new phone every two years and have maintained the same plan, including for the new phone I got yesterday. And I still have unlimited data.

cassandrap83
06-23-2011, 07:55 AM
If you have Sprint in your area -- switch.

For two smartphones with unlimited data, unlimited mobile to mobile (any mobile phone, not just a Sprint phone), unlimited text and picture messages, we pay $160/month which includes all taxes and fees.

We will never switch because every other plan is much more expensive.

JB2K
06-23-2011, 08:01 AM
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/edit-verizons-datagate-plans-leaked-in-excruciating-detail/

DH uses unlimited data...and man he uses it big time. He is now looking at us going to AT&T. We have a family plan with 3 phones, he is the only one with Data. I need a new phone, and he was going to get his new every 2. We have been with Verizon for over 10 years. He has been evaluating minutes, since most of our friends and family are on Verizon. It will be interesting.

I think Verizon is making a HUGH mistake and they are going to lose LOTS of customers.

You may want to re-think some of that, as it has been said AT&T doesn't offer the best reception/service in the NYC/NJ areas, whereas Verizon is extremely well-covered in the Garden State.

ssawka
06-23-2011, 09:14 AM
You may want to re-think some of that, as it has been said AT&T doesn't offer the best reception/service in the NYC/NJ areas, whereas Verizon is extremely well-covered in the Garden State.

ITA! If you travel alot, especially in rural areas, Verizon has the best coverage. I don't care how much I can save, the only phone that is worrth paying for is the one that has service when you need it.

lost*in*cyberspace
06-23-2011, 09:16 AM
Usually if you get a new phone, you start a "new" contract and you have to use the new plans. This happened to me a couple of years ago. The minutes plan I was on was no longer available and I have to go with a more expensive plan when I got a new phone.

I agree with the previous poster that this is not true on AT&T. I am on my third iPhone and contract renewal and my original unlimited data plan is still being honored.


I think Verizon is making a HUGH mistake and they are going to lose LOTS of customers.

I don't agree at all. I don't believe that AT&T lost huge amounts of customers when they abandoned their unlimited data plan. Plus, I would guess Verizon will grandfather in old customers, so why would they switch to a new carrier who won't give them unlimited data?

tlbwriter
06-23-2011, 09:36 AM
I don't agree at all. I don't believe that AT&T lost huge amounts of customers when they abandoned their unlimited data plan. Plus, I would guess Verizon will grandfather in old customers, so why would they switch to a new carrier who won't give them unlimited data?

Exactly. There's no reason for existing customers to leave. In fact, grandfathering them is a huge incentive to stay.

phorsenuf
06-23-2011, 09:44 AM
I'm so glad I read this thread! I only have one son that doesn't have a data plan on his phone. He was planning to upgrade to a smart phone in a few months. I went over to my account and added the unlimited data plan to his phone now (has the capability, just never added it). So hopefully we will all now be grandfathered in.

Thanks OP!

scrapquitler
06-23-2011, 10:03 AM
not true with AT&T. I have gotten a new phone every two years and have maintained the same plan, including for the new phone I got yesterday. And I still have unlimited data.

Yes, because they grandfathered in people who already had it, just as Verizon is doing.

Right now, you couldn't go into AT&T and tell them that you want to add another line to your plan for another person and get unlimited data on that line, it's not an option. Likewise, I (currently a Verizon customer) couldn't walk into the At&T store and get an unlimited data plan myself.

RadioFanatic
06-23-2011, 10:12 AM
Yes, because they grandfathered in people who already had it, just as Verizon is doing.

Right now, you couldn't go into AT&T and tell them that you want to add another line to your plan for another person and get unlimited data on that line, it's not an option. Likewise, I (currently a Verizon customer) couldn't walk into the At&T store and get an unlimited data plan myself.

I agree but the person I quoted and disagreed with said her own plan would change bc she got a new phone -and that's not true. you can keep your same plan, including unlimited, for as long as you want, through as many phones as you want.

shaylyn
06-23-2011, 10:20 AM
Is there a site or someone who could explain to me (keep in mind I just added texting on my phone for the first time 3 months ago, lol) how data plans work on phones?

I was under the assumption that you would just sign up with your carrier and get access to the internet on your phone.

4G? Unlimited data? :confused:

Is it like "the olden days" when everyone had AOL and we paid per minute after xx amount of hours?

Dh wanted to add it to his phone and we have Verizon.....

Cindyrellablue
06-23-2011, 11:24 AM
Currently, DH and I have unlimited data with Verizon on our 3G Incredibles...the worry we have is that when we are eligible for an upgrade later this year and we go to get our Thunderbolts...that the upgrade to 4G won't be covered under the grandfathering. I would hate to have to spend $250 a phone right now just to make sure we have the 4G service prior to the change...

I've asked DH to contact Verizon and ask about this type of situation...hopefully the switch to 4G is covered, otherwise we'll have to suck it up and spend the money on the upgraded phones now or buy an inferior 4G phone just to get the service now.

timmac
06-23-2011, 12:38 PM
4G? Unlimited data? :confused:


3G and 4G refer to the protocols used by the radio signals transmitted (and received) by the phones. Without getting too deep into it, suffice it to say that in general 4G is faster than 3G.

When you have a data plan on your phone, you have access to the internet, but are metered, in a sense, based on how much data gets sent and received by your phone. Think of it like the electric meter on the side of your house, where you get billed for every kWh you use.

With data plans on phones, there is a fixed amount you're allowed per month (usually), often a figure like 250MB or 2GB, or whatever it might be. If you go over that, there's a charged based upon how much.

What kind of activities you're doing determines how much data you're using. Watching videos on YouTube uses a lot more data than writing an e-mail, much like running your AC uses more kWh than flipping on a flourescent light bulb.


Is it like "the olden days" when everyone had AOL and we paid per minute after xx amount of hours?


Not exactly. It's not based upon time, but rather upon amount of information that gets transmitted.

shaylyn
06-23-2011, 01:17 PM
3G and 4G refer to the protocols used by the radio signals transmitted (and received) by the phones. Without getting too deep into it, suffice it to say that in general 4G is faster than 3G.

When you have a data plan on your phone, you have access to the internet, but are metered, in a sense, based on how much data gets sent and received by your phone. Think of it like the electric meter on the side of your house, where you get billed for every kWh you use.

With data plans on phones, there is a fixed amount you're allowed per month (usually), often a figure like 250MB or 2GB, or whatever it might be. If you go over that, there's a charged based upon how much.

What kind of activities you're doing determines how much data you're using. Watching videos on YouTube uses a lot more data than writing an e-mail, much like running your AC uses more kWh than flipping on a flourescent light bulb.



Not exactly. It's not based upon time, but rather upon amount of information that gets transmitted.

Thank you so much, this helps a lot! :goodvibes

California Jenn
06-23-2011, 02:02 PM
If you were waiting for the iphone 5 to come out before getting a new smartphone – would you go with the unlimited plan now (before July 7th) and an iphone 4 IF you could get grandfathered in ….. or wait until the iPhone 5 comes out, but pay for data usage? I wouldn’t regularly use a lot of data, so I don’t think that I would routinely use more than the 2GB, but there would be times that I would want to use more data – the occasional movie streaming, or such.

What would you do? :confused3

lost*in*cyberspace
06-23-2011, 02:08 PM
If you were waiting for the iphone 5 to come out before getting a new smartphone – would you go with the unlimited plan now (before July 7th) and an iphone 4 IF you could get grandfathered in ….. or wait until the iPhone 5 comes out, but pay for data usage? I wouldn’t regularly use a lot of data, so I don’t think that I would routinely use more than the 2GB, but there would be times that I would want to use more data – the occasional movie streaming, or such.

What would you do? :confused3

I would get an iPhone from AT&T because their iPhones have a feature lacking in Verizon iPhones - they cannot do two things at once, such as talk on the phone while using the internet.

That said, if you aren't going to use a lot of data, wait for the iPhone 5 if you think it will be that much improved over an iPhone 4. For movie streaming, use a wi-fi iPad rather than an iPhone. Much easier to see.

California Jenn
06-23-2011, 02:22 PM
Thanks Lost*in*Cyperspace!

Good point on the streaming from something like the ipad rather than the iPhone. Verizon coverage is better than AT&T's around where I live, but I had forgotten about the inability to surf and talk on Verizon. So, that's something I will definitely consider.

MichelleB
06-23-2011, 09:46 PM
I just signed up for netflix and have unlimited data. When I watch something on there, that uses my data, correct? I rarely use all my time (more like 80MB) and was hoping to switch down to the $15 plan but didn't know if they still offer it. Now with netflix, I'm not sure if I should change anything. Opinions?

timmac
06-23-2011, 09:58 PM
I just signed up for netflix and have unlimited data. When I watch something on there, that uses my data, correct? I rarely use all my time (more like 80MB) and was hoping to switch down to the $15 plan but didn't know if they still offer it. Now with netflix, I'm not sure if I should change anything. Opinions?

Don't change anything, keep your unlimited. A single movie on netflix will generally break the 250MB barrier, and it won't take much before you go over 2GB.

shortbun
06-24-2011, 01:22 AM
We have unlimited data on our two Droid 2's. I'll start watching the usage on both phones. I know my usage is very little. Even while I'm traveling, I don't access the internet much for information. Mostly use it to get phone numbers. I've got some apps I'll have to kill someday, games and such. DS is gonna be the one with the big usage. Our plan is good for almost two years.