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eliza61
05-09-2011, 09:00 PM
So I purchased my first Dslr camera a few weeks ago. A nikon d3100. So far I'm loving it and having lots of fun experimenting and getting to know it. I took a quick 2 day class to get a footing.

Anyway, since the weather was nice this past weekend dh & I decided to go play in center city Philadelphia. I of course take the new camera to get some practice.

Problem was my dh kept warning me about taking pictures of people. For example we were at the liberty bell complex and here I am clicking away and he says "be careful with that thing, people may not want you taking their pictures". Then I was trying to take some pictures of moving cars to learn about the shutter speed setting. Once again he thought it was a bad idea?

Anyhoo, is there some proper picture taking etiquette that I'm missing. Previously I've only taken shots on vacation, like at disneyworld and it seems every one has a camera there.

Does anyone simply grab their camera and take pictures in their neighborhood?

photo_chick
05-09-2011, 09:40 PM
No... you're not missing any type of ettiquette. Shoot what you're comfortable shooting. If you are in a public place that allows photography people there are fair game. I promise you're in someone else's shots too.

We had an assignment in one of my photography classes to go out and shoot random strangers on the street. I learned really quickly that most people are oblivious to the cameras, especially at tourist destinations. And those that don't like it will avoid you. And yes, I take my camera to the local park and other places in my neighborhood all the time. Usually to shoot my kids. I've never once had anyone ask me not to photograph them.

Marlton Mom
05-09-2011, 10:43 PM
I think you'll be ok as well.... and besides, if anyone gives you any trouble you can whack them with a soft pretzel! ;)

In this day and age, with a digital camera, you can always just show them you are deleting the pix if someone objects. The other thing that would help would be to tell the objector that you are a student. That usually defuses the situation. I don't think too many people would complain but if they do then you have some outs with the above strategy to help with the situation.

Good luck and happy.... um, Shooting?

Marlton (NJ) Mom

PS. I find that having mustard on the whacking pretzel is a huge deterrent! :rotfl2:

SrisonS
05-09-2011, 10:47 PM
I'd probably be beat up by now if there was some etiquette of not taking pictures of people. But like photo_chick said, most people are unaware or just don't care.

Heck, some people here on the boards celebrate the fact that thy might be in other people's pictures. There's an Is this you? (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1828742) thread in the Theme Parks Community section.

Bstanley
05-10-2011, 08:50 AM
I've taken thousands of pictures in multiple major cities around the world (including many in the US) and have never been approached by anyone - other than the people that want to instruct me on how to use my camera :-)

If you were taking pictures in some fashion where someone thought you were actually focusing on THEM, or especially their children, it might cause them to say "Stop". I had a situation in Paris where a young girl kept jumping into frame every time I brought the camera up while trying to take pictures of my wife buying junk in a tourist trap - I ended up only taking the one picture because I was afraid the parents would think I was stalking her or something.

http://rebelxs.smugmug.com/France-Vacation/Paris/IMG3106/906432334_R5CTC-M.jpg

Along the lines of 'is this you' - some years ago I was planning a vacation and was in the process of buying some tickets to an amusement park (not Disney) from the park's website. On the ticket page was a classic 'happy family entering the park' picture - of some of our good friends and their 2 daughters! No names of course, but a good example of - when you are in a public space you can't expect privacy.

NateNLogansDad
05-10-2011, 09:23 AM
Let me start out by saying I agree with what everyone else posted so far. I just wanted to post a few things to think about when playing around in Center City......

Most people never think twice when they see a picture being taken by someone with a P&S but show up with a DSLR and it seems like you're there for a reason and they want to know why. No one care what your camera is pointing at until you have a big lens. The bigger the lens the more serious you are about taking a snapshot of it I guess :confused3

The nicer the area you are taking pictures in, the lower your chances are of someone giving you a second look. I.E. If you see a couple guys standing on a corner that like to shake hands with shady looking people as they walk by, they may be selling drugs and may wish to not have their picture taken.

One last thing, the average shmoe looking to make a quick buck can't tell the difference between a $600 and a $3000 camera. He/she knows that it's worth at least $100 to the right person. Watch your surroundings.

Philly can be a great place to visit until you make that one wrong turn.....:scared1:

Marlton Mom
05-10-2011, 10:26 AM
Let me start out by saying I agree with what everyone else posted so far. I just wanted to post a few things to think about when playing around in Center City......

Most people never think twice when they see a picture being taken by someone with a P&S but show up with a DSLR and it seems like you're there for a reason and they want to know why. No one care what your camera is pointing at until you have a big lens. The bigger the lens the more serious you are about taking a snapshot of it I guess :confused3

The nicer the area you are taking pictures in, the lower your chances are of someone giving you a second look. I.E. If you see a couple guys standing on a corner that like to shake hands with shady looking people as they walk by, they may be selling drugs and may wish to not have their picture taken.

One last thing, the average shmoe looking to make a quick buck can't tell the difference between a $600 and a $3000 camera. He/she knows that it's worth at least $100 to the right person. Watch your surroundings.

Philly can be a great place to visit until you make that one wrong turn.....:scared1:

Um.... maybe I better wear 2 mustard pretzels when shooting in the city....

But really, Rob is correct. Situational awareness is key. Does any one have any experience with getting questioned by Homeland Security when taking pictures?

~Marlton Mom

rock_doctor
05-10-2011, 10:55 AM
As long as you are in a public space you are legally ok. You have no expectation of privacy in a public space. Now if you are taking pictures of people you should ask them if it is ok. Personally, i never take a picture with somebody in it as i do not want to be in others pictures.

MrBurns
05-10-2011, 12:50 PM
Lucky for me, no one wants my mug in their shots!

Daisy14'sDH
05-10-2011, 02:17 PM
I have been questioned by the Police on 1 occasion, and once by security...

A friend and I were taking night shots from a bridge over a highway trying to get the streaking lights (they were duds), and they saw the flashing of the timer on the cameras...

Gianna'sPapa
05-10-2011, 03:02 PM
Um.... maybe I better wear 2 mustard pretzels when shooting in the city....

But really, Rob is correct. Situational awareness is key. Does any one have any experience with getting questioned by Homeland Security when taking pictures?

~Marlton Mom

I was stopped by security at Air & Space for taking this:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/5707410801_5d173797d8_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/45097427@N02/5707410801/)
NASM Entrance (http://www.flickr.com/photos/45097427@N02/5707410801/) by Gianna'sPapa (http://www.flickr.com/people/45097427@N02/), on Flickr

They came running out of the building to stop me. They thought I was taking pictures of their security measures.

photo_chick
05-10-2011, 07:14 PM
Um.... maybe I better wear 2 mustard pretzels when shooting in the city....

But really, Rob is correct. Situational awareness is key. Does any one have any experience with getting questioned by Homeland Security when taking pictures?

~Marlton Mom

Never had a run in with Homeland Security, but I've had police ask me a a few times what I was doing. Once it was late at night in my own front yard. LOL.

photo_chick
05-10-2011, 07:20 PM
I was stopped by security at Air & Space for taking this:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/5707410801_cd0c041581_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/45097427@N02/5707410801/)
IMGP0492 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/45097427@N02/5707410801/) by Gianna'sPapa (http://www.flickr.com/people/45097427@N02/), on Flickr

They came running out of the building to stop me. They thought I was taking pictures of their security measures.

Heheh... funny. But this does bring up a good point that we've talked about on this board many times. Privately owned publicly accessible places are subject to their own rules and if they want to toss you and your camera out they can.

Guess I could have multi quoted there instead of double posting. Sorry.

NateNLogansDad
05-10-2011, 07:33 PM
Don't get caught taking pictures on/near/of bridges in NY. There's actually a state law now against it. :confused3

I've taken pictures fairly recently of bridges and tanker ships in both PA and NJ while standing there shooting the breeze with local police and haven't had a problem.

For outside airports....
As far as airport security I deal with for work, it seems like regular security and the lower payed TSA guys don't really want to be bothered. The higher payed guys seem to feel like everyone needs to answer to them. DHS seems to have more of an interest in what you're doing than anyone else.

For inside airports.....
No one seems to mind if you're taking pictures really at all unless you are leaving the country or are trying to take pictures of security and their screening equipment.

:3dglasses

AndrewWG
05-10-2011, 09:44 PM
I got over the nerves of taking pics of strangers one evening when I was at the beach looking for a backlit subject for the NYIP classes I was (still am) taking. I saw a woman walking back to the parking lot totally backlit by the setting sun. It was stunning. I decided that I would just ask her if I could take her pic. She said yes, and not only did that but walked back down the beach so that the shot would look better. :) At that point I realized that, heck, she could have said no and it would have been ok too but she didn't and I got a good shot out of it. That was, until I got home and realized I still had the camera set to ISO 1600 (not good on the Canon 30D). :lmao:

Experiment_626
05-11-2011, 11:22 AM
Don't get caught taking pictures on/near/of bridges in NY. There's actually a state law now against it. :confused3Apparently, it's more complicated than that (isn't it always?) ... see http://photo.net/street-documentary-photography-forum/00WA3b

Scott

ThurlFan
05-11-2011, 11:56 AM
This response made me chuckle...

NYC has laws about tripods from New Jersey going back to 1938 and Grovers Mill. It is a very serious matter.

AndrewWG
05-12-2011, 07:56 PM
I just saw this article at B&H and thought I would pass it on. It talks all about street photography.

http://photography.bhinsights.com/content/tips-how-get-rid-your-fears-shooting-street-photography.html

photo_chick
05-12-2011, 08:34 PM
I just saw this article at B&H and thought I would pass it on. It talks all about street photography.

http://photography.bhinsights.com/content/tips-how-get-rid-your-fears-shooting-street-photography.html

Good tips. Street photography is intimidating to say the least. But after i got my first real taste I found myself wanting to do more.

The tip on shooting from the hip... I had my 50D and my Holga with me last time I went to the zoo in Fort Worth. The people shots with the 50D are OK but they look to me like I was trying too hard. The ones with the Holga were much better. I think mainly because I just let it hang from the strap around my neck and took the shot. They look a lot more candid and the more unusual angles make them more interesting.

hmmm... maybe we need a street photography at Disney thread.

JoeDif
05-15-2011, 09:24 AM
Here is another good article by Kirk Tuck regarding street photography.

http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.com/2011/05/approval-tacit-approval-implied.html

Theosus
05-31-2011, 01:14 PM
I once stopped by the side of the road to take pictures of our local nuclear plant. It was dusk, and the sunset had turned the entire reactor vessel pink. Against the blue sky it was an awesome look. I was on a public highway, but within about twenty seconds of me stopping and pulling out the camera, there were three security trucks headed my way with lights on. I left before they could get ot me, but it just shows you how paranoid some places are.
I shoot from the hip alot at disneyworld, and any other places there might be freaky people. Just zoom out, point and shoot. It can work.
While photographing random strangers is okay legally... they might take offense to it. Having the law on your side is a good thing in the end, but when you're running away from a big burly guy and his friends, being on the right end of the law doesnt help much.

Also - people are creeped out if you take pictures of kids (or if people even THINK you are taking pictures of their kids). At disney, it might not be such a big deal, after all there are cameras and kids everywhere. But try it somewhere else and you may have some angry parents thinking you are some sort of perv.

ChiSoxKeith
05-31-2011, 02:03 PM
I once stopped by the side of the road to take pictures of our local nuclear plant. It was dusk, and the sunset had turned the entire reactor vessel pink. Against the blue sky it was an awesome look. I was on a public highway, but within about twenty seconds of me stopping and pulling out the camera, there were three security trucks headed my way with lights on. I left before they could get ot me, but it just shows you how paranoid some places are.
I shoot from the hip alot at disneyworld, and any other places there might be freaky people. Just zoom out, point and shoot. It can work.
While photographing random strangers is okay legally... they might take offense to it. Having the law on your side is a good thing in the end, but when you're running away from a big burly guy and his friends, being on the right end of the law doesnt help much.

Also - people are creeped out if you take pictures of kids (or if people even THINK you are taking pictures of their kids). At disney, it might not be such a big deal, after all there are cameras and kids everywhere. But try it somewhere else and you may have some angry parents thinking you are some sort of perv.

I've seen people get creeped out about it at Disney.

csharpwv
05-31-2011, 02:31 PM
When we were on our Eastern Caribbean cruise this past December i was taking a ton of photos at the sail away party on deck, and there was a mother and her young daughter having a fantastic time getting their groove on - and I asked the mother if I could take their picture - and she said "I would rather you didn't" SO - I didn't.

However, I have started keeping a few business cards in my camera bag - and if I take someone's photo, and they know I took it - I will give them a card and say if you want a copy of the photo - e-mail me, and tell me what you were wearing, or some other distinguishing factor, and I'll send it to you!

I have yet to get an e-mail from anyone!

So I think it may be something that matters in the moment - but later on it means nothing.

I am a huge fan of wide shots at the Disney parks that show everyone in the frame - believe you me, you get some interesting photos! :lmao:

I especially like to see an entire crowd exiting a water ride - and getting the from behind photo of an entire family walking away leaving their sloshing wet shoe prints and drips behind! What a great shot! HAHA

ChiSoxKeith
05-31-2011, 02:46 PM
Good idea about the business cards.

zackiedawg
05-31-2011, 03:12 PM
I love street photography at Disney, and always snap a few. I much prefer candids, not to be creepy or to avoid confronting or asking, but because I don't want any posing or unnatural behavior. Part of the fun of candid photography is that it shows people doing exactly what they were going to do, unaware of the camera consciously or subconsciously. I've got a dozen or two such shots scattered through my gallery, some of which are favorites even though they aren't technically my best - just because of the expressions, emotions, or places that they show and how those relate to my own experiences at Disney.

I always bring my photography website cards with me, with my site and e-mail, so if I get anyone who asks, or anyone who I do end up photographing with their knowledge, I can give them the card and can post, send, or remove any photos of them on request.