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Testtrack321
09-26-2002, 09:21 PM
Well, it had to be, right? Well, from various outlets, I have heard that we might clamor for Pressler back. The replacements sound bad. Wheter or not this guy is AV in disguise is anyone's guess, but he's somewhat reliable. Don't quote me, but watch your back...

raidermatt
09-26-2002, 09:51 PM
Testtrack, I don't know if you and I are referencing the same sources, but I also have gotten some bad vibes this evening...

philjerden
09-26-2002, 10:14 PM
May we hear the names of some of these potential, alleged replacements?

Phil

Bob O
09-26-2002, 11:40 PM
As long as Eisner has a say in the new person its likely not to be good news!!!

Planogirl
09-27-2002, 01:11 AM
Oh dear, everyone is being so cryptic. I guess that it's time to go digging around...

Where is the LandBaron? I thought for sure that he'd post after the big news. Yikes, we have no driver! :crazy: ;)

raidermatt
09-27-2002, 01:18 AM
No names, but check out Jim Hill's new article for Friday.


Fall into the Gap (http://www.jimhillmedia.com)

Jeff in BigD
09-27-2002, 06:11 AM
Ruh-roh...

You mean Satan has spawned more than one unholy being?

I gotta bad feeling about this...

Eeyore2U
09-27-2002, 06:12 AM
Sounds like a case of the evil you knwo versus the evil you don't know.

Luv2Roam
09-27-2002, 06:22 AM
Well, it an interesting article. But I don't think he told us anything that we didn't already know.
I'm still glad PP is gone.
Sure he hires someone else to do the dirty work, and they get the blame. But we always square the blame directly where it belongs. ;)
Someone wrote somthing cute in chat last night --
Expect to see aisles of Plushes at the Gap! :jester: LOL

EUROPA
09-27-2002, 07:04 AM
Even if the next guy is a puppet and has no real power to make change, eventually people would think/say "hey what do all of these people have in common"?? Oh yeah that's right "Esiner".

WDSearcher
09-27-2002, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by Testtrack321
Well, it had to be, right? Well, from various outlets, I have heard that we might clamor for Pressler back. The replacements sound bad. Wheter or not this guy is AV in disguise is anyone's guess, but he's somewhat reliable. Don't quote me, but watch your back...

Hmmmm ... I was actually quite pleased to hear who might be taking Paul's place. Things would definitely improve for WDW, although I can't speak for the company as a whole.

FYI ... "champagne"

:earsboy:

Mop
09-27-2002, 08:06 AM
Now, let's not let this get out of hand. To look at this and say that "it doesn't matter who replaces Pressler, they're still going to suck" takes a lot of (bad) credit away from Pressler and lays it at the feet of Eisner. No, no. Pressler was to blame for a LOT of bad decisions. He had marching orders from Eisner. He had a choice on how to execute them. He could certainly have done a better job of it. To say that Pressler was just a puppet and had absolutely no control is to say that Pressler wasn't all that bad at all. I reject that argument outright. Those same orders from Eisner trickled down to executives beneath Pressler and Al Weiss and others are certainly not as hated and disrespected as Pressler was. Clearly, the buck stopped at Pressler. Yes, whoever replaces him will have a tough and thankless job. But he/she can do a better job of it than Pressler can. At least we can have someone who UNDERSTANDS Disney magic and knows what makes a Disney park different than just another Universal Studios or Six Flags. My vote is for Al Weiss. He's seen the damage done in the last few years by mindless and indiscriminate cost cutting. Maybe belts still have to be tightened, but Weiss knows what compromises can be made. He's been in the trenches. I think that so long as someone is promoted from inside, we're OK. And if it works out, then Eisner's succession plan is mapped, as well, since a successful head of Parks and Resorts could then easily progress to CEO of all of Disney.

Mop

Another Voice
09-27-2002, 11:36 AM
The question at the moment is who will pick the new head for the parks, Eisner or the Board of Directors.

That will tell us everything about the future.

Bstanley
09-27-2002, 12:18 PM
Well then guys - how do we tell who picked who?

Of the available candidates who represents one side or the other?

EUROPA
09-27-2002, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by Mop
Now, let's not let this get out of hand. To look at this and say that "it doesn't matter who replaces Pressler, they're still going to suck" takes a lot of (bad) credit away from Pressler and lays it at the feet of Eisner. No, no. Pressler was to blame for a LOT of bad decisions. He had marching orders from Eisner. He had a choice on how to execute them. He could certainly have done a better job of it. To say that Pressler was just a puppet and had absolutely no control is to say that Pressler wasn't all that bad at all. I reject that argument outright. Those same orders from Eisner trickled down to executives beneath Pressler and Al Weiss and others are certainly not as hated and disrespected as Pressler was. Clearly, the buck stopped at Pressler.

So which devsion of Disney do you think was/is doing well under Esiners orders? Internet, Moives, TV, Video, Parks, or the Disney Store?

mjstaceyuofm
09-27-2002, 01:05 PM
So which devsion of Disney do you think was/is doing well under Esiners orders? Internet, Moives, TV, Video, Parks, or the Disney Store?Can I venture a guess? On initial thoughts, I'd say none of these is doing well - the apparent reason ME is in the hot seat (and not in MGM playing a gameshow). But some of these divisions have elements that are doing well. For instance, ESPN, DVC, and the Cruise Line. Maybe doing well is not the right term - perhaps, "meeting their business plan goals" is a better one.

DisneyKidds
09-27-2002, 02:52 PM
So who do you speculate ME would want, and who would the Board want?

Safari Steve
09-27-2002, 05:05 PM
I'm pulling for Al.

I would think that unless they hire someone from the outside (Which I'm sure someone knows will result in a HUGE backlash) it'll either be Mr. Weiss, Ms. Harris, or the DCL VP.

Of course I thought that Al should have gotten Paul's job before Paul got it.

Peter Pirate
09-27-2002, 05:34 PM
Safari Steve, a totally unrelated question, but I've heard that the Disney Company is on a first name basis. Is this true? Do you get to call Al Weiss 'Al'? Or the big ME 'Mike' (if you ran into him)?
:cool: :cool: :bounce: :cool: :cool:

WDSearcher
09-28-2002, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Peter Pirate
Safari Steve, a totally unrelated question, but I've heard that the Disney Company is on a first name basis. Is this true? Do you get to call Al Weiss 'Al'? Or the big ME 'Mike' (if you ran into him)?
:cool: :cool: :bounce: :cool: :cool:
Yes ... it's true. I've met both Al and Michael at various events and presentations, and it truly is "Hi, I'm Al" and "Hello, I'm Michael, nice to meet you." "Mr. Weiss" and "Mr. Eisner" just don't sound right, somehow!

:earsboy:

Safari Steve
09-28-2002, 12:44 PM
Yes, everyone goes by their first name, but I can't break the habit of saying "Yes Sir/Ma'am"... it's just how I was raised.

scooby-the-doo
09-29-2002, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Mop
At least we can have someone who UNDERSTANDS Disney magic and knows what makes a Disney park different than just another Universal Studios or Six Flags.

LOL! You seriously rank Universal parks on a par with Six Flags? You must be wearing those rose-tinted spectacles.

SoMoGo
09-30-2002, 12:58 AM
James A. Rosulo head of Disney Paris is the New man on the job. Read press release on another board at 1:40 AM Sept 30
SoMoGo