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Kidztheater
03-19-2011, 03:51 AM
Hi Everyone!

This May/June our group was selected to perform in Downtown Disney. A group of 22 of us will be going down for 9 days to tour the parks, take a workshop and do 2 performances. Our goal is to raise enough to cover all expenses for the trip (including food) which we did last year.

My question is, do you have any ideas for fundraisers that our group could do.

The pros to fundraisers for our group are:

- our kids are incredibly talented (we have had kids on Broadway) so anything that involves performing usually does well.
- some of our kids are very "crafty" and sell their merchandise

The cons are:

- our kids come from ALL over and some live 3 hours away from New York City (our home base) so its hard to organize
- our kids are REALLY busy since they are performing and training all the time
- we have done what seems like 3 million Talent Shows to raise money and I think our fans are "talent showed out"

Does anyone have any great fundraising ideas that the kids could do individually? Or something that we could gather the kids for but would be a quick something that would bring big crowds to support?

Thanks so much for your help!!

Darcy03231
03-19-2011, 07:44 AM
Our dance studio did a yard sale which did very well. Probably wouldn't raise enough for the entire trip though. All of the parents from the dance center donated items.

pal-mickey
03-19-2011, 07:55 AM
How about selling candy bars? My friends son is selling gift cards. He is in the school band. I guess each month they place an order. The school gets a small percent back on the sale. I guess this is an ongoing fundraiser since my friend has ask if I need any gift cards for the next 4 years to get them through her

clanmcculloch
03-19-2011, 08:20 AM
A guy at work's son was fundraising for his school band to go to the Rose Bowl parade last year. In addition to chocolate bars, they did calendar raffles where for $5 they sold raffle tickets and each day of the month a different ticket was drawn for a different prize. They had gotten donations from a variety of stores and some days also had cash prices (most were $25 or $50 but there was one day as high as $200). They raised a lot of money on these calendars. They also did a 50/50 draw. There was a limit of 200 tickets sold but the tickets cost $100 each. This one fundraiser raised $10,000 towards the trip (the winner got 50% of what was collected so the winner got $10,000). I don't know if any kind of legal permission is required for these kinds of fundraisers so definitely check into that before doing them, but they can raise a lot of money.

McKelly
03-19-2011, 08:42 AM
A guy at work's son was fundraising for his school band to go to the Rose Bowl parade last year. In addition to chocolate bars, they did calendar raffles where for $5 they sold raffle tickets and each day of the month a different ticket was drawn for a different prize. They had gotten donations from a variety of stores and some days also had cash prices (most were $25 or $50 but there was one day as high as $200). They raised a lot of money on these calendars. They also did a 50/50 draw. There was a limit of 200 tickets sold but the tickets cost $100 each. This one fundraiser raised $10,000 towards the trip (the winner got 50% of what was collected so the winner got $10,000). I don't know if any kind of legal permission is required for these kinds of fundraisers so definitely check into that before doing them, but they can raise a lot of money.

Yes, be careful about this one. Sometimes this can be considered "gambling" and might be against certain group's rules.

cam&phoebsmom
03-19-2011, 08:49 AM
Ihope they have a wonderful time-I am sure they will!
When I was in High School my pom team was selected to perform at WDW as well and it is one of my fondest memories.

One thing I did really appreciate about the way we did fundraising was that it was not just divided equally among all the girls, each person had their own account and their direct fundraising efforts went into working on their specific bill. So let's say 15 girls worked a car wash one weekend and it raised $300, each of those specific girls would get $20 for their bill. This really helped keep things fair and make sure the work one girl did was credited to her.

Once we had all of our "bill" paid off we could help others with theirs. If a girl did not have her total worked off then she or her parents had to pay for the rest. Knowing that you were getting credit only when you did the work helped keep us all motivated!

I remember we did a lot of car washes! I know you said there is a lot of distance between the homes so maybe you could have 2 or 3 on the same day in different areas. We also sold candy (the $1 bars that are probably more than $1 now!)

Another easy thing would be to get wrapped Hershey bars at a wholesale food place (like Costco, Sam's, etc.) and have the teammates do cute wrappers for them for Easter on the computer and resell them in front of a grocery store as a fundraiser.

juliebean
03-19-2011, 09:29 AM
Wow, they should have a great time! My son's HS band is going next month - but just for 4 days with 2 performances. The cost per teen is $1100, but they are flying (fron Newark), so I imagine that number can be cut some, but buses aren't free either.

Our kids did have opportunities to fundraise, but it was kept in separate accounts and the great majority of the cost is being paid by the parents. Our son raised about $50 selling cheesecakes and entertainment books. Could he have raised more? Yes, but I hate fundraisers. So, he just owes us a ton of babysitting and yardwork, lol. I think most families went the same route.

For group fundraisers I think the candy, wrapping paper, etc. would be difficult to raise enough in such a short time frame. The fundraisers our kids did were in the fall. I have had good luck raising several thousand dollars with tricky trays, 5k's, and raffles - but they all involve permission from officials, advertising, and planning - not sure you have time for that either...

How did you guys raise enough to cover the costs last year? With a short time frame, I'd stick with what has worked in the past. Have a good time!

Allabtprincesses
03-19-2011, 10:35 AM
Restaurant nights...find restaurants that donate part of their proceeds from a day or night for people who identify themselves as being with your group.

Applebee's does a pancake breakfast for this purpose.

prncess674
03-19-2011, 10:52 AM
So I am going to be the wet blanket. Fundraising or asking for donations should be for a charitable cause, not to fund your own personal vacation.

Disney is a business and you have to give them credit for this great marketing idea. They "select" groups from across the country and ask them to perfom a time or two on some random stage, in return they pay you nothing and don't pay for your expenses. WDW gets free entertainment for the parks, park admission fees, food fees and lodging to line their own pockets all for "honoring" your group. They use these honors to lure people to spend money at their parks.

elgerber
03-19-2011, 10:58 AM
Our performance choir did bagging at grocery stores. Last year they did it and raised hundreds of dollars per girl towards London, and this year for Disney and St. Louis.

DVCBELLE
03-19-2011, 11:32 AM
So I am going to be the wet blanket. Fundraising or asking for donations should be for a charitable cause, not to fund your own personal vacation.

Disney is a business and you have to give them credit for this great marketing idea. They "select" groups from across the country and ask them to perfom a time or two on some random stage, in return they pay you nothing and don't pay for your expenses. WDW gets free entertainment for the parks, park admission fees, food fees and lodging to line their own pockets all for "honoring" your group. They use these honors to lure people to spend money at their parks.
I don't think you are a wet blanket - in the current economic state of our country - DH and I are feeling more and more this way. We try to support groups that "Need" money for basics in life rather than wants now.

I do feel that performances would be the best way to do this. Why don't you hold it in a new venue - since your group lives in such a wide range of area and rather than be a talent show - why not be the performance you would do in WDW?

mom to minnie&mickey
03-19-2011, 11:49 AM
So I am going to be the wet blanket. Fundraising or asking for donations should be for a charitable cause, not to fund your own personal vacation.

Disney is a business and you have to give them credit for this great marketing idea. They "select" groups from across the country and ask them to perfom a time or two on some random stage, in return they pay you nothing and don't pay for your expenses. WDW gets free entertainment for the parks, park admission fees, food fees and lodging to line their own pockets all for "honoring" your group. They use these honors to lure people to spend money at their parks.


:thumbsup2 Not a "wet blanket" at all, simply very logical. If Disney wants them to perform then why do they not give them at least free accomodations and the free DDP? Giving money to a group of kids and parents so that they can tour Disney, do the parks and eat for free for NINE DAYS is not my idea of "charitable causes" and would not think kindly of anyone asking me for money so they can go on vacation because that is what it is at the end of the day. Most people I know plan and save for their vacation for a very long time (think coupons, change jars, selling stuff etc.) They do not ask other people to fund it. Just MHO.:)

fortwildernessishome
03-19-2011, 11:54 AM
So I am going to be the wet blanket. Fundraising or asking for donations should be for a charitable cause, not to fund your own personal vacation.

Disney is a business and you have to give them credit for this great marketing idea. They "select" groups from across the country and ask them to perfom a time or two on some random stage, in return they pay you nothing and don't pay for your expenses. WDW gets free entertainment for the parks, park admission fees, food fees and lodging to line their own pockets all for "honoring" your group. They use these honors to lure people to spend money at their parks.

This is SO true!!!! I can't even imagine the millions that Disney brings in each year, with tickets, rooms, foods etc., by inviting various groups to perform. I would imagine that each group stays a minimum of 3-4 days so big bucks for sure!!! That being said, our son went with his band last year. He had the time of his life and I wouldnt trade the experience for anything. Additionally our whole family went and had a great time. (as well as spending quite a bit of cash!) We are hoping that our younger son goes with the band next year. It was a wonderful experience, and a wonderful vacation. We paid for the whole thing and didnt participate in any fundraisers. Like I said it was great and we would do it again in a heartbeat, but I agree it is a HUGE money maker for Disney!!!!!

Good Morning Dewdrop
03-19-2011, 01:11 PM
Our dance studio did a yard sale which did very well. Probably wouldn't raise enough for the entire trip though. All of the parents from the dance center donated items.

I think this is a great idea. I used to volunteer for a feline rescue group and we did a donation yard sale. Lots of people donated things then we held the sale and did really well.

I for one would gladly donate things and come to the sale (if you were in my area). I will not buy candy bars, wrapping paper etc I just don't want any more 'stuff'. Also with fundraisers like that the group isn't getting all or even most of the $$ so for me a yard sale where all of the profits are going directly to the cause makes more sense.

juliebean
03-19-2011, 02:15 PM
So I am going to be the wet blanket. Fundraising or asking for donations should be for a charitable cause, not to fund your own personal vacation.

Disney is a business and you have to give them credit for this great marketing idea. They "select" groups from across the country and ask them to perfom a time or two on some random stage, in return they pay you nothing and don't pay for your expenses. WDW gets free entertainment for the parks, park admission fees, food fees and lodging to line their own pockets all for "honoring" your group. They use these honors to lure people to spend money at their parks.

SO True! We shouldn't look at these trips like we are raising funds to cure cancer or help people in Haiti or Japan!

Our school did a couple of small fundraiser for one reason - so the kids would be doing some of the work, instead of it being all on the parents. We are lucky enough to be able to pay for the trip, but the world will not be any worse if a kid cannot perform in DW.

Not only are we paying for him, we are going to see him too, so it's his cost plus ours... It's also our spring break vacation - but we probably wouldn't be going this April if they weren't going. DW really has a good racket going with these performances!

elgerber
03-19-2011, 02:16 PM
I think this is a great idea. I used to volunteer for a feline rescue group and we did a donation yard sale. Lots of people donated things then we held the sale and did really well.

I for one would gladly donate things and come to the sale (if you were in my area). I will not buy candy bars, wrapping paper etc I just don't want any more 'stuff'. Also with fundraisers like that the group isn't getting all or even most of the $$ so for me a yard sale where all of the profits are going directly to the cause makes more sense.


Our choir did Candy Bars too, they are actually very easy to sell, and half of the $1.00 per bar, goes to the child/organization, so pretty profitable overall.

jgates
03-19-2011, 02:49 PM
I am in the dire predicament of raising funds for a San Diego FCCLA trip for my DD. And I don't even get to go!!! (Assuming they take a good placement at State).

However, one thing the FCCLA does is at their banquet they do 'baskets' - each girl/guy creates a basket (or more) that is then bid on. It's up to the kids if they solicit donations for the baskets, do something handmade, etc.

Last year I did a movie basket with a DVD I got from Quill, micro popcorn, 'movie' type candy, etc. I brought around $40. I did a second one with Bath & Body works 'extras' from sales & bundles that had accumulated and it brought a similar amount. We had gardening ones - fishing ones - ha

This would be harder to do in a Walmart type of environment, but I did see a group doing it - they had a bake sale out front but instead of doing a silent auction on the baskets, they sold $1 tickets (6 for 5 or ??15 for 10 - something like that). You bought as many tickets as you wanted & put them in the buckets for the appropriate item you wanted to win with your name & phone number on it.

Obviously the second method would go towards the group as a whole - the money collected would have to be divided. In the banquet method, each girl/guy would get the money from their own basket.

jgates
03-19-2011, 02:55 PM
PS - World's Finest is the company that they do the $1 bars for around here. If you can see in front of a grocery store or WM they go very well. Right now 3 groups just did those so those won't work for our group obviously.

gigi1313
03-19-2011, 03:28 PM
i hope this is not too forward, but OP could you tell me the approximate cost per student?

my dd's high school choir was also selected to sing at DTD but the cost was a little too high in my opinion (wed to sat, fly in/out of laguardia, resort, park ticket, some meals = $880/student) and very few students signed up, so we got our deposits back this week... dd was incredibly disappointed (and i am for her also)...

juliebean
03-19-2011, 03:43 PM
i hope this is not too forward, but OP could you tell me the approximate cost per student?

my dd's high school choir was also selected to sing at DTD but the cost was a little too high in my opinion (wed to sat, fly in/out of laguardia, resort, park ticket, some meals = $880/student) and very few students signed up, so we got our deposits back this week... dd was incredibly disappointed (and i am for her also)...

Not the original poster, but similar trip to yours - DS marching band next month. $1100 for air from EWR, hotel (4 per room), 2 meals a day, ticket. They leave Wednesday afternoon and return on Sunday. Most of our kids are going (over 100), perhaps because they only go once every 4 years?

Hope that helps - sorry your daughter was disappointed.

lastminutemom
03-19-2011, 04:36 PM
To the original poster

Make sure that the girls really want to go and that this is something they need to do. It sounds like they are all really busy -- fundraising of any kind takes time.

In addition, I am guessing you will have a hard time raising every cent you need. Will the parents contribute anything?

Megkel
03-19-2011, 05:10 PM
I'm not sure what type of group it is but what about a Bake Sale? I know it sounds corny but if it's like a studio you always have people coming and going. People waiting for people to be done and waiting for their classes to start. A dollar an item isn't really that much and would keep things simple, most people have a dollar or two on them at all times. Plus a quick batch of brownies is something the kids could make and everyone could have a specific day. If it's a school it could be a booth during lunch, always very popular.

Also you could ask your kids to be helpful around the community. Ask people they know if they could do small jobs for a donation. Spring is here and I know people are starting to clean up their gardens and mowing the lawn. This would be something all kids could do no matter where they lived, and stress the importance of knowing the person you are helping and having adult supervision. I know my sister-in-law did odd jobs at her mom's school for some fundraiser for school.

Good luck getting everything together so you can go! :cool1:

fortwildernessishome
03-19-2011, 05:11 PM
i hope this is not too forward, but OP could you tell me the approximate cost per student?

my dd's high school choir was also selected to sing at DTD but the cost was a little too high in my opinion (wed to sat, fly in/out of laguardia, resort, park ticket, some meals = $880/student) and very few students signed up, so we got our deposits back this week... dd was incredibly disappointed (and i am for her also)...

Not the OP here, but the cost for my son was 1,150.00. This included a bus ride from NH, seven nights with six kids to a room, extra security at night, a day at Universal, four days at Disney parks and some meals, but not all, we needed to give him extra money for some meals. It was a lot of money, but for us it was worth every penny. Like I said earlier, we hope that my younger son will go on the trip next year. Sorry that your daughters trip didnt work out.....

prncess674
03-19-2011, 05:37 PM
Just thought I would point out that this group is trying to go on this trip in 3 months. Figuring that this trip is easily $1,200 per person and they have 22 people going expecting to raise over 26,000 in 3 months is pretty lofty. Selling candy and having bakesales might get you park tickets for 22, but you are going to need a massive fundraiser with some sort of great prize, but since you are starting so late and you aren't looking for funds for a charitable organizations I don't think your goals are reasonable.

elgerber
03-19-2011, 07:14 PM
We went in January, it was $699 per person. That was 5 nights at ASMU, airfare from MSP (which is never cheap) and 4 day one park per day tickets.

luckyfin
03-19-2011, 08:06 PM
Restaurant nights...find restaurants that donate part of their proceeds from a day or night for people who identify themselves as being with your group.

Applebee's does a pancake breakfast for this purpose.

I was going to mention this, as well. My cousins' sports teams do very well with the flapjack breakfast fundraiser at Applebees. It only takes a few hours of their time and the ticket prices are very reasonable. We are always willing to pay $5/ticket for the breakfast and it only takes a few hours of their time. No elaborate planning involved. Just selling the tickets.

brymolmom
03-19-2011, 08:52 PM
So I am going to be the wet blanket. Fundraising or asking for donations should be for a charitable cause, not to fund your own personal vacation.

Disney is a business and you have to give them credit for this great marketing idea. They "select" groups from across the country and ask them to perfom a time or two on some random stage, in return they pay you nothing and don't pay for your expenses. WDW gets free entertainment for the parks, park admission fees, food fees and lodging to line their own pockets all for "honoring" your group. They use these honors to lure people to spend money at their parks.

ITA...I am of an opinion that if kids really want to fund raise for vacations - they should be doing real work. Like, for example, raking leaves in neighborhoods and other similar 'real hard work' type things. I do not agree with the raffle calendar things (that the adults setup and the kids actually do no real work besides just selling the tickets to family members). Bottle/can drives - good for the environment and a lot of actual work.

Just doing a show....well - maybe it's a lot of work for the kids, I would need to know what kind of show - are they creating all the sets/creating all the marketing literature and copying it and distributing it/sewing/creating all the costumes? So maybe I would agree with this type of fundraiser, it would depend if they're doing the legwork and back and arm work behind the scenes or just showing up and singing a tune...

And I agree too about Disney's brilliant marketing - same thing with 'qualifying' for entry into their cheerleading tournaments! It is not like it's the top teams - they want everyone to come on down to spend their money!

gigi1313
03-19-2011, 09:09 PM
thanks all who chimed in on cost... i guess the costs were not as out of line as i thought... thanks! and there's always next year!

Leajess99
03-19-2011, 10:56 PM
So I am going to be the wet blanket. Fundraising or asking for donations should be for a charitable cause, not to fund your own personal vacation.

Disney is a business and you have to give them credit for this great marketing idea. They "select" groups from across the country and ask them to perfom a time or two on some random stage, in return they pay you nothing and don't pay for your expenses. WDW gets free entertainment for the parks, park admission fees, food fees and lodging to line their own pockets all for "honoring" your group. They use these honors to lure people to spend money at their parks.

This is interesting. I honestly did not know this but wondered how the different groups got there to perform.

As for the donating, I wouldn't be helping as I stick to the charities that truly need the help not the ones trying to get a vacation out of the deal.

sk!mom
03-19-2011, 11:56 PM
This May/June our group was selected to perform in Downtown Disney. A group of 22 of us will be going down for 9 days to tour the parks, take a workshop and do 2 performances. Our goal is to raise enough to cover all expenses for the trip (including food) which we did last year.

- we have done what seems like 3 million Talent Shows to raise money and I think our fans are "talent showed out"Does anyone have any great fundraising ideas that the kids could do individually? Or something that we could gather the kids for but would be a quick something that would bring big crowds to support?

Thanks so much for your help!!

So a 9 day vacation for 22 people- that's a lot of money. It also sounds like maybe you've exhausted your contibutors. I recently started a thread about fundraising letters. I'm not a fan of these but it was one of the methods used by the local children's theater when they were "selected" to perform at Disney last year. I have to say though, that I didn't contribute. I firmly believe that in this (or any economy) my charitable dollars should not be used to pay for other's vacations.

To call these trips a "study tour" is really suspect. The whole trip is a fundraiser for Disney. Our High School band, orchestra, and choir have also been "selected" in recent years when they requested selection.

Kidztheater
03-20-2011, 01:04 AM
So I am going to be the wet blanket. Fundraising or asking for donations should be for a charitable cause, not to fund your own personal vacation.

Disney is a business and you have to give them credit for this great marketing idea. They "select" groups from across the country and ask them to perfom a time or two on some random stage, in return they pay you nothing and don't pay for your expenses. WDW gets free entertainment for the parks, park admission fees, food fees and lodging to line their own pockets all for "honoring" your group. They use these honors to lure people to spend money at their parks.


Ok, wow, so I didn't expect that many responses! Thanks everyone! I'll address most of them but I wanted to start out with this one since I felt it took over the theme of the thread.

First off, as I said in my OP, we are a professional company, meaning most of our kids get paid to perform-- like on Broadway (we even have several ex-American Girls in our group, 2 real life Addys, 2 Kirstens and a Kit!). So, that being said, we FULLY understand the racket that Disney has created with this program and how much they gain from it. However, as most posters have said, the money involved totally is outshined by the experience that is presented for these kids. Kids who get paid to perform understand what they are getting themselves into and so do our audiences. However, the opportunity to travel to another state, perform for an audience who does not know us, maybe knows nothing about theater, and who has never seen us before is immeasurable.

Also, there are a few perks. They know us and our caliber of talent and created more challenging material for us at the workshops. They promised us this year they would even up the program to really push the kids further. These are kids who will be performing at the parks one day, and through this program they have met tons of Disney staff including those who cast shows.

Lastly and most importantly, our program is FREE so not only do we work with incredible talent, but we work with many kids who would not otherwise be able to afford this experience. One of our performers who is one of our most talented has never been on a plane!!!

These kids are working toward a real career and will go off to top BFA programs in top universities and work on Broadway, at Disney, in films and TV. Many of them already are. This a step they have chosen to take to help them and they all agreed that last year's trip was 100% worth it.

We know what we are getting into, but we have decided as a group that it is 100% worth it and a not to be missed opportunity. Also, no one is forced to donate. Those who can't, don't!

Thank you though, honestly, for providing this aspect of the performances. Though we think about it and consider it, I think other groups don't and just get lured into it when its not really worth it for them. I think its worth bringing to the table.

sk!mom
03-20-2011, 01:12 AM
First off, as I said in my OP, we are a professional company, meaning most of our kids get paid to perform-- like on Broadway


All the more reason for them to pay for their own vacation.

Kidztheater
03-20-2011, 01:16 AM
Ihope they have a wonderful time-I am sure they will!
When I was in High School my pom team was selected to perform at WDW as well and it is one of my fondest memories.

One thing I did really appreciate about the way we did fundraising was that it was not just divided equally among all the girls, each person had their own account and their direct fundraising efforts went into working on their specific bill. So let's say 15 girls worked a car wash one weekend and it raised $300, each of those specific girls would get $20 for their bill. This really helped keep things fair and make sure the work one girl did was credited to her.

Once we had all of our "bill" paid off we could help others with theirs. If a girl did not have her total worked off then she or her parents had to pay for the rest. Knowing that you were getting credit only when you did the work helped keep us all motivated!

I remember we did a lot of car washes! I know you said there is a lot of distance between the homes so maybe you could have 2 or 3 on the same day in different areas. We also sold candy (the $1 bars that are probably more than $1 now!)

Another easy thing would be to get wrapped Hershey bars at a wholesale food place (like Costco, Sam's, etc.) and have the teammates do cute wrappers for them for Easter on the computer and resell them in front of a grocery store as a fundraiser.

Ok, this is EXACTLY what we are doing!! We did this last year and it worked really really well. We also gave the top 3 fundraisers at trip to the TONY's which was donated from a parent. It was AMAZING and just as educational of an experience as the WDW trip.

How about selling candy bars? My friends son is selling gift cards. He is in the school band. I guess each month they place an order. The school gets a small percent back on the sale. I guess this is an ongoing fundraiser since my friend has ask if I need any gift cards for the next 4 years to get them through her

One of the girls last year did this to contribute at her school and made almost $1000. It's a great way for the kids to make money and some kids are doing that this year to contribute. Thanks!

Restaurant nights...find restaurants that donate part of their proceeds from a day or night for people who identify themselves as being with your group.

Applebee's does a pancake breakfast for this purpose.

One of the kids did this last year and made a few hundred dollars for the trip. I thought it was a great idea and it got his friends and family together to see him before he went on the trip! He may do it again this year.

I don't think you are a wet blanket - in the current economic state of our country - DH and I are feeling more and more this way. We try to support groups that "Need" money for basics in life rather than wants now.

I do feel that performances would be the best way to do this. Why don't you hold it in a new venue - since your group lives in such a wide range of area and rather than be a talent show - why not be the performance you would do in WDW?

I think if you read my response to the Wet Blanket post, you might understand a bit more where we are coming from. Though this is a bit of a luxury for the kids, many of them have no luxuries and can barely afford the 2.25 subway fare to our rehearsals- and these are professional level performers.

As for the performance idea- we did that last year (our WDW performance in NYC) and it was a GREAT success. We plan to do it this year twice!

:thumbsup2 Not a "wet blanket" at all, simply very logical. If Disney wants them to perform then why do they not give them at least free accomodations and the free DDP? Giving money to a group of kids and parents so that they can tour Disney, do the parks and eat for free for NINE DAYS is not my idea of "charitable causes" and would not think kindly of anyone asking me for money so they can go on vacation because that is what it is at the end of the day. Most people I know plan and save for their vacation for a very long time (think coupons, change jars, selling stuff etc.) They do not ask other people to fund it. Just MHO.:)

Again, read the response to the Wet Blanket post. It may help you to understand where we are coming from. And by all means no one is forced to contribute. If they don't agree, we don't make them. However, there is huge support for our group because of the level of talent and the amount of kids we have on Broadway (including recent Mary Poppins and Lion King kids). People really support getting the kids "out there" to develop their talents in new venues and since we are a FREE organization they know how many kids would really benefit from this.

On the subject of coupons, change and selling stuff, the kids do just that! The clip coupons, collect change, sell stuff, and we work for a full year tirelessly (each child, parent, staff member) to put together this trip. This winter, we did a full production of Annie and the proceeds went all to the trip! It was a lot of work and a lot of hours donated by all of us!

I think this is a great idea. I used to volunteer for a feline rescue group and we did a donation yard sale. Lots of people donated things then we held the sale and did really well.

I for one would gladly donate things and come to the sale (if you were in my area). I will not buy candy bars, wrapping paper etc I just don't want any more 'stuff'. Also with fundraisers like that the group isn't getting all or even most of the $$ so for me a yard sale where all of the profits are going directly to the cause makes more sense.

This is a good idea. Though the kids are very spread out (they travel far to perform in NYC), there are clusters of kids that could maybe work together and do these on the weekends! If only they had a free weekend away from rehearsal... I will pass this on!

Kidztheater
03-20-2011, 01:39 AM
i hope this is not too forward, but OP could you tell me the approximate cost per student?

my dd's high school choir was also selected to sing at DTD but the cost was a little too high in my opinion (wed to sat, fly in/out of laguardia, resort, park ticket, some meals = $880/student) and very few students signed up, so we got our deposits back this week... dd was incredibly disappointed (and i am for her also)...


Hi! So, we are lucky because we get time share properties donated. So it brings our costs down. But with rehearsal space rental (we are not a school, but a training company), costumes, van rental, gas, etc. it does bring the costs up. We are at about $700 per person, plus $300 for food, which we are planning to fundraise (we did it last year) because we have kids coming from lower income families who can't afford the cost. The $700 covers:

$315 from LGA to MCO, rehearsal space, 8 day park hoppers, costumes, gas, van rental, parking and the one workshop we take

The food covers 2 meals per day at the parks and we do 2-3 ADRs (on the lower end). We also buy snacks and breakfast (cereal, etc. for the time share)

To the original poster

Make sure that the girls really want to go and that this is something they need to do. It sounds like they are all really busy -- fundraising of any kind takes time.

In addition, I am guessing you will have a hard time raising every cent you need. Will the parents contribute anything?

We have been fundraising for about 6 months already and we did it last year. The kids are DYING to go and working really hard (you have no idea). We are getting REALLY close to our minimum goal but we are just hoping to raise enough to cover food since we have kids who can't afford food.

I'm not sure what type of group it is but what about a Bake Sale? I know it sounds corny but if it's like a studio you always have people coming and going. People waiting for people to be done and waiting for their classes to start. A dollar an item isn't really that much and would keep things simple, most people have a dollar or two on them at all times. Plus a quick batch of brownies is something the kids could make and everyone could have a specific day. If it's a school it could be a booth during lunch, always very popular.

Also you could ask your kids to be helpful around the community. Ask people they know if they could do small jobs for a donation. Spring is here and I know people are starting to clean up their gardens and mowing the lawn. This would be something all kids could do no matter where they lived, and stress the importance of knowing the person you are helping and having adult supervision. I know my sister-in-law did odd jobs at her mom's school for some fundraiser for school.

Good luck getting everything together so you can go! :cool1:

We have done some fundraisers, and you would be surprised how much they help and how much little amounts ($100 here and there) really add up! I haven't thought about the odd jobs, but I know some kids are babysitting and then donating that to the trip.

Just thought I would point out that this group is trying to go on this trip in 3 months. Figuring that this trip is easily $1,200 per person and they have 22 people going expecting to raise over 26,000 in 3 months is pretty lofty. Selling candy and having bakesales might get you park tickets for 22, but you are going to need a massive fundraiser with some sort of great prize, but since you are starting so late and you aren't looking for funds for a charitable organizations I don't think your goals are reasonable.

You are a little over, but close. Our trip is about $15,500 without food at $22,000 with all food covered (we get lodging donated). We have been fundraising for a few months raised about $13,000, so we seem to be right on track. We'll have the $15,500 soon (and early) and then just be working to either bring food costs down or comp food for the kids since we work with several lower income kids who can't afford food at the parks. We did it last year and we are way ahead of where we were then, so I am pretty confident.

I just don't want to rest-- I am working hard for this trip and so are the kids. A few staff members are going and we want to be sure we contribute our fair share. I am always looking for new ideas!

We have several LARGE fundraisers and our top 3 fundraisers for the whole thing get a trip to the TONY awards which is a pretty frickin amazing prize in my opinion- LOL. Last year was amazing AND educational. Our first and biggest fundraiser raised about $7000 in one shot!

ITA...I am of an opinion that if kids really want to fund raise for vacations - they should be doing real work. Like, for example, raking leaves in neighborhoods and other similar 'real hard work' type things. I do not agree with the raffle calendar things (that the adults setup and the kids actually do no real work besides just selling the tickets to family members). Bottle/can drives - good for the environment and a lot of actual work.

Just doing a show....well - maybe it's a lot of work for the kids, I would need to know what kind of show - are they creating all the sets/creating all the marketing literature and copying it and distributing it/sewing/creating all the costumes? So maybe I would agree with this type of fundraiser, it would depend if they're doing the legwork and back and arm work behind the scenes or just showing up and singing a tune...

And I agree too about Disney's brilliant marketing - same thing with 'qualifying' for entry into their cheerleading tournaments! It is not like it's the top teams - they want everyone to come on down to spend their money!

Many of the kids work- yard sales, yard work, baby sitting, etc. to fundraise. They also put together (without adult help) talent shows and other big fundraisers. We did a BIG production of Annie over Winter Break where all the high schooler sacrificed their entire winter break for grueling long 8+ hour rehearsal days to learn the entire play in just 8 days. They even came in during the big NYC blizzard! They also had to teach and mentor the young orphans, learn all of their choreography, give them notes and work with them one on one. It was a great success!!

I agree that they should work hard and I agree that they aren't always selecting top groups for these (I have stalked the youtubes) but our group IS a top group, and that's all that matters to us. We don't care who else is performing. We're just glad for the opportunity.

So a 9 day vacation for 22 people- that's a lot of money. It also sounds like maybe you've exhausted your contibutors. I recently started a thread about fundraising letters. I'm not a fan of these but it was one of the methods used by the local children's theater when they were "selected" to perform at Disney last year. I have to say though, that I didn't contribute. I firmly believe that in this (or any economy) my charitable dollars should not be used to pay for other's vacations.

To call these trips a "study tour" is really suspect. The whole trip is a fundraiser for Disney. Our High School band, orchestra, and choir have also been "selected" in recent years when they requested selection.

I think if you check out the response I had to the 'wet blanket' post you'll understand better where we are coming from. We really are a unique group. There aren't a lot of other groups like this anywhere in the country. Because these kids are all on the performance career track (not just hobby) it really is a "study tour" and yes, I know its also a luxury, but many of our kids come from lower income families and this is a vacation they will NEVER have without this trip. One of our students will be boarding a plane for the first time. I often supply my students with the $2.25 subway fare to get home from rehearsal- otherwise they would be stranded. So not only do they learn, but they are rewarded for the hard work they have done through the year and the joy they have brought to the NYC community. People are beyond happy to donate because we have provided them a service throughout the year with our musicals.

We do a fundraising letter and it is very helpful. This is a great suggestion and one that I would pass on to anyone. Thanks :)

Kidztheater
03-20-2011, 01:41 AM
All the more reason for them to pay for their own vacation.

The ones who can afford to get really amazing donations from their own families to help pay for their share and other kids. But we do have kids who come from low income families and literally can't afford the $2.25 subway fare. One student will be on a plane for the first time. We are a FREE program so we service a very diverse background (economic and otherwise)

prncess674
03-20-2011, 10:15 AM
Yes, performing at WDW is a great experience, but you have to explain to me why others should be paying for your vacation? 8 day park hoppers sounds like an excessively long vacation to ask others for donations. If this was really about performing you wouldn't be spending the majority of your time touring the parks.

I watched your audition video and your kids are good, but there are thousands of other "good" show choirs out there. Sure you have kids who have performed on Broadway, but sorry to say the kid in Chicago doesn't live driving distance to Broadway and hence their kid doesn't get that opportunity.

Giving your child experiences is your burden to bear. If you are selling something of value others may purchase it, but selling items above actual retail value and calling it a donation is ridiculous.

Your kid performs, other kids are talented with math and science and one day are likely to be astronauts. It would be a 'great experience' for those math and science kids to spend the summer at space camp. Should we all start saying they are deserving of donation dollars? These kids may one day be the inventor of a life saving technological discovery in 20 years.

Kidztheater
03-20-2011, 10:37 AM
Your kid performs, other kids are talented with math and science and one day are likely to be astronauts. It would be a 'great experience' for those math and science kids to spend the summer at space camp. Should we all start saying they are deserving of donation dollars? These kids may one day be the inventor of a life saving technological discovery in 20 years.

What a great idea! I'd love to help kids who excel in math and science reach their dreams! Just like helping bands go to band camp or cheerleaders go to cheer camp.

Kidztheater
03-20-2011, 10:44 AM
This thread is so strange to me. The beauty of donations and funding is you get to choose who you help. I understand if you can't or won't donate. That's no problem. My question was about ideas to help the kids fundraise.

Choirs go abroad. Cheerleaders go to cheer camp. Bands perform all over. These groups fundraise.

You have the right to say 'no' and they have the right to a good car wash! Lol

sk!mom
03-20-2011, 10:59 AM
This thread is so strange to me. The beauty of donations and funding is you get to choose who you help. I understand if you can't or won't donate. That's no problem. My question was about ideas to help the kids fundraise.

Choirs go abroad. Cheerleaders go to cheer camp. Bands perform all over. These groups fundraise.

You have the right to say 'no' and they have the right to a good car wash! Lol

Two things trouble me about your group, though. First, you live in NYC yet are seeking funds to travel to WDW. Really?? You live in the city with undeniably the MOST opportunities for these kids. Second, it's nine days- two performances and what usually is a half day workshop and then a long vacation.

I don't donate to any of the other groups listed either. I was invited to a fundraiser today for the local high school band's trip to Hawaii. I declined. My children have been on study tours to NYC and WDW among other places. We paid as we realized that the "study" portion was minimal. It was really a fun vacation for the kids.

My DD will spend her 3rd summer studying ballet for 5 weeks. I will spend my 3rd Summer teaching Summer school so that she can take advantage of this opportunity. I will not ask others to fund her enrichment. Her trip will be 5 1/2 days a week of ballet with Sundays off for fun so much more training and much less vacationing than your trip to WDW.

Honestly, Since you are a talented performing group, it would seem that performing would be the best fundraisers for you.

prncess674
03-20-2011, 11:03 AM
This thread is so strange to me. The beauty of donations and funding is you get to choose who you help. I understand if you can't or won't donate. That's no problem. My question was about ideas to help the kids fundraise.

Choirs go abroad. Cheerleaders go to cheer camp. Bands perform all over. These groups fundraise.

You have the right to say 'no' and they have the right to a good car wash! Lol
Donations are a word that should really only be associated with charitable organizations. Asking others to fund your week's vacation is called panhandling. As stated, if you want to go to WDW get a JOB! Kids are very industrious and can earn money: rake leaves, mow grass, wash windows, babysit, sweep floors, haul trash, etc.

Kidztheater
03-20-2011, 11:50 AM
You are all so right. I'm gonna cancel the trip. Sorry kids!

prncess674
03-20-2011, 11:53 AM
You are all so right. I'm gonna cancel the trip. Sorry kids!I see where your kid gets their dramatic ability. :sad2:

No one is saying you can't give your kids an enrichment activity, but YOU need to pay for it.

familyoffive
03-20-2011, 12:12 PM
With this being the second year in a row that your group wants to do this trip, there is a huge difference between want and need. Exactly why would a 2 performance trip require a 9 day trip/vacation and 8 days in the parks? Instead of seeking out donations by linking to your video(sorry, that is how it looks to me), perhaps your wealthy donors can fund the entire trip and hard earned monies can be donated to worthy causes, not a vacation. The trip duration looks excessive.

Jessica527
03-20-2011, 12:15 PM
We sold those magnets for the back of cars. We made it for our school mascot, but they also have disney ones.

jgates
03-20-2011, 12:54 PM
I guess I'm not too critical of the duration of the trip. The time share is donated so they are not encountering extra hotel costs. The extra cost in that respect is the additional days on the park tickets - which is really minimal on each ticket once you get out to a multi-day ticket ($8 a day? or something). So you would have the minimal additional ticket cost & the extra food. So I don't see a lot of reason to harp on that issue.

This is a unique group. I would highly expect the amount they get 'paid' for their performances is going right back into costumes, transportation, facility costs etc. It is probably not bringing in any income to their family as obviously their are kids who can't even afford the transportation fair to their classes.

okeydokey
03-20-2011, 04:33 PM
I can't tell you how much I hate receiving fund raising letters for other people's vacations. I decline every one. I wish my family could afford a vacation this year, but we can't.

ScarletFire
07-23-2011, 10:40 AM
Very interesting perspective; I'm planning a high school band trip to WDW.

We are not performing but participating in a Disney workshop at a cost of $25 per student. It's also necessary to keep the cost per student <$600; 3 days in the parks, off-site accommodations w/ free b-fast, bus transportation.

Some students can afford the price, some cannot. Our band boosters do lots of fundraising; mostly to buy new instruments and extra instruction. But, some of the fundraising subsidizes the cost of our yearly band trip.

I'm trying to think of creative ideas to raise money. Our band's number one fundraiser is the yearly Christmas Bazaar; a craft show. Vendors pay for booths, auction baskets, bake sell, concessions, we raise lots of money. Our band also asks us to sell pies, cookie dough, popcorn, wrapping paper, etc; I always opt to make a donation in lieu of pestering friends and family to buy stuff they don't want.

What are your ideas about sponsoring a talent show? $5 admission, concessions, and a quarter per vote. First and second place prizes could be a percentage of the money raised per vote.

drinkme
07-23-2011, 12:18 PM
This thread is so strange to me. The beauty of donations and funding is you get to choose who you help. I understand if you can't or won't donate. That's no problem. My question was about ideas to help the kids fundraise.

Choirs go abroad. Cheerleaders go to cheer camp. Bands perform all over. These groups fundraise.

You have the right to say 'no' and they have the right to a good car wash! Lol

I agree. I don't see your fundraising any different from the kids who fundraise for Band Camp, or Football, etc.

I wish we lived closer to you! My dd12 would LOVE to be a part of your group. She's into singing and performing. Her DREAM is to make it on Broadway (I know she has lots of company with that...lol). She would love to work with a group of highly talented kids.

Good luck with your fundraising. Wish I had some ideas, but it seems your group is already doing many of the usual things. The only extra thing is that our school has luck selling movie theater tickets. That is our biggest fundraiser for band, and it involves the least amount of work to do.

aprilgail2
07-23-2011, 02:38 PM
So I am going to be the wet blanket. Fundraising or asking for donations should be for a charitable cause, not to fund your own personal vacation.

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I agree!! Perhaps I should fundraise for my daughter to go to camp----oh waiittttt I am the sucker that PAYS for my own kid !!!

ScarletFire
07-25-2011, 10:06 AM
There are students who have to raise money to go on a school trip; their parent(s) do not have money. Many fundraisers provide a service or product. There's nothing wrong with providing a teenager a means to raise money. And yes, they also get jobs to pay for their trips.

Just asking for ideas.

VAfamily1998
07-25-2011, 11:23 AM
I see this is an old thread, but thought I'd give a response anyway in case newer posters have the same questions...

I'm a parent of 4 kids, and I find it difficult to get a babysitter. 4 kids is a lot for one teenaer to handle! ;) Plus, I get nervous having people into my house... I would LOVE it if more church youth groups, high school sports/performance groups, etc. had some type of large childcare fundraisers.

Have a "Parents night out" event one night in a large location (like a gym)...have activities set up for the kids, maybe provide pizza/juice dinner...a movie, etc. Charge a flat rate per child for the set time (like 6pm-9 pm, or whatever). You should probably check to make sure what type of local childcare laws you need to follow...I think in VA there is some laws about "drop in" type child care being ok up to 3 hours

Depending on when you need money, a fundraiser like this could also work out well during the day, like right before christmas time, so parents can have a shopping day, etc.

ScarletFire
07-25-2011, 06:37 PM
I see this is an old thread, but thought I'd give a response anyway in case newer posters have the same questions...

I'm a parent of 4 kids, and I find it difficult to get a babysitter. 4 kids is a lot for one teenaer to handle! ;) Plus, I get nervous having people into my house... I would LOVE it if more church youth groups, high school sports/performance groups, etc. had some type of large childcare fundraisers.

Have a "Parents night out" event one night in a large location (like a gym)...have activities set up for the kids, maybe provide pizza/juice dinner...a movie, etc. Charge a flat rate per child for the set time (like 6pm-9 pm, or whatever). You should probably check to make sure what type of local childcare laws you need to follow...I think in VA there is some laws about "drop in" type child care being ok up to 3 hours

Depending on when you need money, a fundraiser like this could also work out well during the day, like right before christmas time, so parents can have a shopping day, etc.

I like this idea; thanks for the input.