I did it...full frame, baby!

[Suburbanmom]

I just bought a used Nikon D700. :cool1:

Anyone want to pass on some "Full-Frame" advice?

I know my Tokina 11-16 is going to vingette. I think my 24-70mm and 70-200mm will work out fine. What about the Sigma 30mm 1.4 and Nikon 70-300mm? I know I could go and look this up somewhere, but it's more fun to talk about it here.

[annnewjerz]

The Sigma 30 is a DX lens, which I'm sure you know...so I don't know what it would end up looking like on full-frame unless you shot with it in DX mode, which I think the D700 has (but I obviously could be wrong because I unfortunately do not own one yet!).

The 70-300 should work great on the D700. I see loads of pictures taken with that combo on NikonCafe and they look great, in fact people that have upgraded from DX to FX with it have said it looks even better than it did previously---although that may just be the excitement of the jump to FX showing.

Congrats! So jealous and excited to see some test shots!

[Gianna'sPapa]

The Sigma 30 is a DC lens (Sigma's classification for a crop sensor lens). You will probably have the same issue with vignette. It states its for use only on APS-C and 4/3 cameras.

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/shop/30mm-f14-ex-dc-hsm-sigma

[Suburbanmom]

I'm keeping my D300, so those DX lenses are going to still get their workout. :)
Friday can't come fast enough. :)

[spinetnglr]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :thumbsup2:thumbsup2.... so excited for you Amy ...the D700 I had in the front yard is all melted now :lmao: .... can't wait to see some of your shots with it. Wish I was a little closer to actually getting one but alas I will just sit back and lust over your shots.

[Code]

Congratulations!!

I've seen some pics from D700 + Tokina 11-16mm - I've heard it doesn't vignette much at 14-16mm.

edit: here's some D700 + Tokina 11-16mm pics (http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=tokina%20d700&w=25817345%40N03) from Scottwdw on flickr

[wenrob]

Congrats!!!:cool1: Full frame has been more of a learning curve then I thought it would be but I'm finally finding my groove with it. I ended up ordering the 50 f/1.4 and knew my Tamron 28-70 would work so haven't bothered to give the Sigma 30 a try on it. The camera has a vignette control (L, M, H) and I noticed I had some on the Valentine pics I did of my kids. I have no idea what the camera was set to and it was a white back ground. Anyway, have it set to high now and haven't noticed it since.

[handicap18]

Sweeeeet!! I wish I could upgrade, but I'm going with a new lens first, then maybe a new speedlight, then a full frame.

Congrats!!!!! :thumbsup2:thumbsup2

[Marlton Mom]

Congratulations! :woohoo:

I'd be curious to hear about the differences between the 2 cameras and what you like and don't like about the full frame cameras.

On the one hand it would be easier to just think of it as a 'sensor size' only change but Wendy is reporting that it's more than that so I guess it has to be experienced to be understood.

Thanks to Wendy and, you, Amy for sharing this experience with us. Just like a Disney trip report we are living vicariously through your camera upgrades! :thumbsup2

~ Marlton Mom

[mrcricket]

Congrats Amy. I'm jealous.

[Quicklabs]

Wowzers! Congratulations, Amy. You are going to be taking some amazing pictures of high school sports now! I can hardly wait to see what you will be able to do with the "new baby." OK, with the gorgeous weather and our two gorgous new cameras, we just HAVE to go out and shoot together.

[YesDear]

Congrats!

I normally would be jealous, but I have mentally dealt with the fact that I am waiting for the D800 or the D700 replacement.

[photo_chick]

Doesn't the D700 have a DX mode that makes it shoot like a crop so you can still use those lenses without worrying about vignetting?

[wenrob]

Congratulations! :woohoo:

I'd be curious to hear about the differences between the 2 cameras and what you like and don't like about the full frame cameras.

On the one hand it would be easier to just think of it as a 'sensor size' only change but Wendy is reporting that it's more than that so I guess it has to be experienced to be understood.

Thanks to Wendy and, you, Amy for sharing this experience with us. Just like a Disney trip report we are living vicariously through your camera upgrades! :thumbsup2

~ Marlton Mom
The biggest thing for me is the difference in Depth of Field (or field of view depending who you talk to). I really didn't think it would be that big of a difference but it really is. I'm used to a gradual fall off but on the D700 if feels like the fall off is instantaneous. It's probably not but the difference is big enough to cause me endless frustration. I'm used to nailing shots at wide open apps with little issue and right now f/5.6 is humbling me.:rolleyes1
I can start a thread if you want and give you all my observations and anyone else would be more then welcome to share theirs. You just have to keep in mind that they won't be technical at all just what I feel are the major differences between the D90 and D700 from my personal experience.

Doesn't the D700 have a DX mode that makes it shoot like a crop so you can still use those lenses without worrying about vignetting?
There is but it cuts the mega pixels down to 5. If you want all 12 plus then you have to deal with the vignetting which IMHO is not a big deal as you have plenty of room to crop.

[mom2rtk]

Congrats Amy! Can't wait to see what you do with it!

[LordAthens]

Doesn't the D700 have a DX mode that makes it shoot like a crop so you can still use those lenses without worrying about vignetting?

Yes, but it does so at a cost, it drops the resolution to 5mp, since it's only using a portion of the sensor.

[Evad]

Congrats on the new camera!!!!! :thumbsup2

[Marlton Mom]

Oy!! All this talk of full frame!!! ::yes::

I'm running up to B and H this Friday with DS to drool all over the 'merch". Does anybody have any fondling requests?

I'm going to check out zooms for my D90 (Nikon 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S DX Nikkor) and see what they have in the used pile. I am debating on whether to take up all my equipment and start playing lets make a deal with the used department for a full frame something or other. I probably won't ditch the whole kit and kaboodle but the force is strong with full frame and I know one day I will submit to the urge.

I still have the D60 but my 12 year old says he really wants that camera so I am sort of ham strung as far as selling that and the 18-55 lens and using the moola for the 18-105. I really want him to experience photography at his age and he has read me the riot act about ditching the D60. He says he wants to use it to take pictures of the characters during Star Wars weekends.

I was looking at the Nikon 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED AF-S DX VR II Nikkor lens but the test reports say it's not as sharp as the 18-105 lens and sharpness is what I crave!

So see what you started Wendy and Amy (and Carol!!!)

:p
Marlton Mom

[Suburbanmom]

If I wasn't excited before...I am super EXCITED now!!!!!!
I have the UPS tracking page up on the laptop and I've been refreshing it every few hours. It's still sitting in NY but I paid a little extra for 2-day shipping, so it should be here "by end of day" on Friday :) which is cool because my boys have wrestling meets on Friday night and all day on Saturday and Sunday. I might have to carry 2 bags in order to bring it all with me - maybe a small rolling suitcase. (LOL)

[spinetnglr]

Oy!! All this talk of full frame!!! ::yes::

I'm running up to B and H this Friday with DS to drool all over the 'merch". Does anybody have any fondling requests?

I'm going to check out zooms for my D90 (Nikon 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S DX Nikkor) and see what they have in the used pile. I am debating on whether to take up all my equipment and start playing lets make a deal with the used department for a full frame something or other. I probably won't ditch the whole kit and kaboodle but the force is strong with full frame and I know one day I will submit to the urge.

I still have the D60 but my 12 year old says he really wants that camera so I am sort of ham strung as far as selling that and the 18-55 lens and using the moola for the 18-105. I really want him to experience photography at his age and he has read me the riot act about ditching the D60. He says he wants to use it to take pictures of the characters during Star Wars weekends.

I was looking at the Nikon 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED AF-S DX VR II Nikkor lens but the test reports say it's not as sharp as the 18-105 lens and sharpness is what I crave!

So see what you started Wendy and Amy (and Carol!!!)

:p
Marlton Mom

Got room in your trunk for a hitchhiker??? I would love to make a trip to b&h someday. I dont think your covert fondling of merchancdise on my behalf will cut it. :lmao:




If I wasn't excited before...I am super EXCITED now!!!!!!
I have the UPS tracking page up on the laptop and I've been refreshing it every few hours. It's still sitting in NY but I paid a little extra for 2-day shipping, so it should be here "by end of day" on Friday :) which is cool because my boys have wrestling meets on Friday night and all day on Saturday and Sunday. I might have to carry 2 bags in order to bring it all with me - maybe a small rolling suitcase. (LOL)

Tracking numbers are wonderful and evil all at the same time. When you see its at the distribution center nearest you and you know the what the next status is .... you wanna just scream thru the computer .... "get it on the darn truck already, don't you guys know I'm frozen until my package is 'out for delivery'?"

[Suburbanmom]

Tracking numbers are wonderful and evil all at the same time. When you see its at the distribution center nearest you and you know the what the next status is .... you wanna just scream thru the computer .... "get it on the darn truck already, don't you guys know I'm frozen until my package is 'out for delivery'?"

I wonder if there is any way to pick it up at the distribution center instead?
Anyone done that before?

B&H wants a signature and what if I have to go out? It always seems like I get my stuff and the very end of the day too. Oh drat...this is almost too much to bear.

[mom2rtk]

I wonder if there is any way to pick it up at the distribution center instead?
Anyone done that before?

B&H wants a signature and what if I have to go out? It always seems like I get my stuff and the very end of the day too. Oh drat...this is almost too much to bear.

We're always VERY late on our UPS delivery route. I had something coming once and knew I'd miss it. I tried hard to get to pick it up but they said they had to attempt delivery first, then if I was missed I could call and have it held to pick up there. I ended up missing mine on a Friday night. I waited until 6:30 only to find it arrived about 10 minutes after we left........that after waiting and watching ALL DAY!

I hope you can find a way........or maybe it's Fedex and they handle it differently???????

Good luck!

Janet

[wenrob]

Mine was set for Fed Ex delivery and I had planned for a day of waiting since Fed Ex hits my neighborhood like three times during the day. Checking online (constantly refreshing:laughing:) all it ever said was received by the center 30-40mins away. Next thing I know Hubby says there's a UPS truck outside, it just before 9am. No way did I think it was my camera, the shape was all weird, it was UPS, hubby was expecting something as well and nothing ever said 'out for delivery.' Opened the box, pulled it out and youngest DD gasped and said, "It's a GOLDEN BOX!!!" :lmao: About an hour later I got a text notification it was out for delivery. So all this technology and it's still hit and miss. I half expected Fed Ex to show up with another one.

[mom2rtk]

I ordered something once from the Disney store. I didn't see it on my front porch, but got an email from them saying my order had been delivered. Sure enough....opened the door and there it was!

Amy, I hope your box comes early in the day with no hassle!

[spinetnglr]

I wonder if there is any way to pick it up at the distribution center instead?
Anyone done that before?

B&H wants a signature and what if I have to go out? It always seems like I get my stuff and the very end of the day too. Oh drat...this is almost too much to bear.

Not sure you can pick up like that with UPS... I think FedEx lets you pickup though. I've always been pretty lucky with my UPS deliveries being early in the day although I have tracked down my UPS guy on several occasions to send packages. Having a business I sometimes need to send things and I know where he eats his lunch and where he makes scheduled daily pickups so it would not be out of the realm of possibility for me to stalk the UPS driver if I knew I had a package on his truck :rotfl2:

[Suburbanmom]

I just talked to the local UPS distribution center, and just as I feared, they must make a first attempt at home delivery before I can come in to pick it up. Also, end of day goes until 7pm. If it doesn't come earlier than that, I may miss it because of those wrestling meets!!
Prayers, pixie dust, crossed fingers, whatever ya' got...that I'm on the route the first half of the day. :)

And Karyl, I'd have no problem stalking a UPS driver either. I'd prefer the Fed Ex guy, but I have no shame, really.

Wen - you should make "It's a golden box!!!" your tag line. I love it!!!

[Marlton Mom]

And Karyl, I'd have no problem stalking a UPS driver either. I'd prefer the Fed Ex guy, but I have no shame, really.

Wen - you should make "It's a golden box!!!" your tag line. I love it!!!


The UPS guys on my route are way hotter than the Fed Ex guys, plus they wear shorts!! Ooh la la! :blush:

~ Marlton Mom

[Suburbanmom]

The UPS guys on my route are way hotter than the Fed Ex guys, plus they wear shorts!! Ooh la la! :blush:

~ Marlton Mom

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[wenrob]

Any news?:yay:

[Suburbanmom]

I'm in agony!!! It's been "out for delivery" since 4:30 this morning, but no sign of them on my street. Ughh!!!!

[spinetnglr]

I'm in agony!!! It's been "out for delivery" since 4:30 this morning, but no sign of them on my street. Ughh!!!!

OMG ... I think this qualifies as "cruel and unusual punishment". I'd be out driving around looking for Big Brown. LOL I was hoping to get a first impression update before I have to leave for auction for the rest of the day.

[mom2rtk]

I'm in agony!!! It's been "out for delivery" since 4:30 this morning, but no sign of them on my street. Ughh!!!!

You do know what they say about that "watched pot", right???? :stir:

[Suburbanmom]

I'm nearing a meltdown. :(

[Marlton Mom]

This is like waiting for a baby to be born!
~ MM

[Suburbanmom]

It's here! :cool1:
It's here! :cool1:
It's here! :cool1:
And it came just in time. :) I'm off to a weekend of wrestling meets and my 24-70mm is already connected to it. I can't believe how much wider full-frame looks. This is going to be fun!

[wenrob]

Woo hoo!!!! Have fun!

On the wider frame I'm suddenly a chronic centerer again. That or someone ends up down in a corner, lol!

[Quicklabs]

Oh! Oh! Oh! You'd better get those pics up here ASAP, Amy!

[Suburbanmom]

OK - here's one from today. It is completely unedited, except I changed the crop from landscape to portrait. The kids in white is on our team and went on to take 6th place at the tournament. :)

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180072_1871191388329_1497474591_2052338_4119757_n. jpg
Nikon D700
70-200mm f/2.8 at 80mm
1/250 sec.
ISO 4000
I didn't do any noise reduction at all. :)

[wenrob]

Nice!
That ISO is amazing isn't it? I've gotten to where I dont even bother to check for noise. Haven't used my flash since I got mine.

[annnewjerz]

ISO 4000[/B]
I didn't do any noise reduction at all. :)

Nice!
That ISO is amazing isn't it? I've gotten to where I dont even bother to check for noise. Haven't used my flash since I got mine.

Oh boo to you both!! :cutie: So jealous.

[YesDear]

and the 70-200 just keeps on ticking.

Great shot. Amazing the results you get with good technology, great glass in the hands of someone who knows how to use them!

[spinetnglr]

Oh boo to you both!! :cutie: So jealous.

You and me both Ann ... I swore I was saving for that fast tele .... but these people and their D700's are making me rethink LOL

[mom2rtk]

So Amy, if you had the chance to start over with your kids as babies......... as the owner of your nice NEW baby, would you do it???????

Man, I wish I'd had my current tools when they were babies!

But alas, the late nights would probably do me in this time!

Great shot BTW!

[Suburbanmom]

and the 70-200 just keeps on ticking.

Great shot. Amazing the results you get with good technology, great glass in the hands of someone who knows how to use them!

Thank you for the kind words. :)

So Amy, if you had the chance to start over with your kids as babies......... as the owner of your nice NEW baby, would you do it???????


I wish I could go back and hit a few highlights. I'm a "Live in the Now" kinda girl and almost never wish I could go back. But when I am taking photos of other people's babies, I do have a twinge that makes me wish I had known then what I know now.

[Quicklabs]

Amy, that is some great shot at the wrestling tourney. You are going to take your already wonderful work to great new heights....