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onecoolpilot
01-15-2011, 09:44 AM
I was wondering about the "put your key in to turn the lights on" feature of the Dream. Does it have to be the KTTW card, or will any card that size fit in there and turn on the juice?

Maybe an experiment for the lucky ones on the MV.:thumbsup2

tchrrx
01-15-2011, 09:57 AM
:confused3 Would you explain this to those of us who have never cruised before. What do you mean by using a key to turn on the lights?

NancyIL
01-15-2011, 10:04 AM
:confused3 Would you explain this to those of us who have never cruised before. What do you mean by using a key to turn on the lights?

In some European hotels, in order to turn on any lights in the room, you leave your key card in a "slot" by the front door. If you leave the room and take your key with you (which is usually a good idea!), the lights go off. That is the same type of system that the Dream has. I can see a lot of people on the Dream either getting locked out of their cabins or else leaving someone in the dark in the shower when they leave the room!

onecoolpilot
01-15-2011, 10:13 AM
This is a picture from PLS3399's trip report. There are others, but this is the one I was looking at.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_JZpIp5yyxfw/TSs7k0ydfEI/AAAAAAAAEIk/3Zw1rQJEkf0/s400/DSC_0251.JPG

As NancyIL said, when you come into the room, you put your KTTW card in the slot, which turns on the electricity to the room. When you leave, you (hopefully) take the card with you, which keeps you from leaving a bunch of lights on and thus saving electricity.

On that same trip report, PLS3399 said that the lights stay on for about 2 minutes after you remove the card. I was curious if any card would work, like can I shove my Kroger Plus card in there to turn the lights on, or does it 'read' the KTTW card somehow.

maria-fan-22
01-15-2011, 10:17 AM
Well i don't think it really needs a ROOM key, but you may be able to put a credit card in there, or a rewards cards. Just something that small and plastic. BUt then you must remember to take your card with you. pirate:

KingRichard
01-15-2011, 10:25 AM
Someone posted a business card would work.

DMMarla07860
01-15-2011, 10:32 AM
well I for sure will be getting locked out at least once during the cruise, I usually forget my card at least once every cruise and get locked out

CTXRover
01-15-2011, 10:34 AM
I don't know yet specifically for the Dream, but in general, these usually simply have a switch that the card presses on when you put it in that slot to turn on the power. In nearly any european hotel I have been in that has these, any card works. If true for the Dream, I may be bringing an older DCL card with me to keep at least the air conditioner on when we're not in the room (assuming its controlled by this power slot as well). I hate coming back after an excursion to a warm room.

Dallas_Lady
01-15-2011, 02:11 PM
So everything goes off when the card is not in the slot? What about phone chargers, clocks, etc. And I know my DH will not be happy about coming back to a hot cabin at the end of every day.

OrangeCountyCommuter
01-15-2011, 03:48 PM
I am not sure why more American companies don't use this technology. It would save SO much energy. And you are already coming back to warm Disney rooms since more and more of their rooms have 'motion sensing" on the AC.

nlginny
01-15-2011, 04:05 PM
I was just thinking, won't someone steal your kttw card and charge stuff on it? There are weirdos out there.

OrangeCountyCommuter
01-15-2011, 04:19 PM
I was just thinking, won't someone steal your kttw card and charge stuff on it? There are weirdos out there.

Unless you leave the door open, they can't steal the key. This "slot" is inside your room.

turbo teacher
01-15-2011, 04:20 PM
I was just thinking, won't someone steal your kttw card and charge stuff on it? There are weirdos out there.

It's INSIDE your room ;)

bats
01-15-2011, 04:40 PM
We have a lot of these devices in Europe and I haven't found one yet that doesn't accept any card the same size etc. We use supermarket loyalty cards as if you forget it, it's no big deal, just go and get another one!

I must say though, if we're going out for longer than 30 mins or so, we don't leave a card in them as it just wastes power. The AC usually cools the room down pretty quickly once we return anyway.

:thumbsup2

pearlieq
01-15-2011, 04:48 PM
And you are already coming back to warm Disney rooms since more and more of their rooms have 'motion sensing" on the AC.

There are ways to hack those. :rolleyes1

I'm not out to kill the polar bears, but I sure don't want to come back to an 85 degree room either.

yesmylove
01-15-2011, 05:23 PM
Silly question but what about the bathroom lights. If you take the key out at night to go to sleep how do you turn on the bathroom light. Are those lights seperate from the others or are they connected to the key card as well?

jlwhitney
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
If I remember correctly when we stayed in Barcelona, the card only allows you to turn the lights on and off, once the card is in place you can turn the lights on and off like normal.

dizneyfan23
01-15-2011, 06:55 PM
it might be the same as the safe, you can use any card with a strip on it to lock the safe(before they changed them to numeral). So perhaps it'll work the same way.:thumbsup2

BibbidyBobbidyBoo
01-23-2011, 06:10 PM
I think it's just gonna take some time to get acclimated to 'remembering' your key when you LEAVE. I mean we're pretty used to just already wearing our lanyards or grabbing it and putting it on while getting ready to leave- (or for some- just always keeping their card in their pocket) and then used to just walking out when we leave the room. Now we'll need to remember that card- or we'll be constantly locking ourselves out of the room if we forget it. LOL

This said by the person that repeatedly forgot her lanyard when walking out and kept locking herself out of the room. Which was fine when DH was with me and could open the door back up for me to retrieve my lanyard or card... but I foresee a whole lot more people forgetting their cards when they leave with it being in that slot. LOL

fla4fun
08-06-2011, 09:39 AM
I am not sure why more American companies don't use this technology. It would save SO much energy. And you are already coming back to warm Disney rooms since more and more of their rooms have 'motion sensing" on the AC.

A lot of times I select my WDW resort based on whether it has the motion thermostats or not. There's nothing worse than coming back to the room all hot and sweating and then having to sit there and sweat while you wait 30 minutes or more for the AC to cool the room down. The "work-around" for the motion thermostats doesn't work at every resort - you won't ever catch me in a BCV studio in warm weather again!

I would also be curious about whether it shuts down everything or just some things. If you plan to recharge electronics while you're, say, at dinner, you would need to leave a card in the slot, right? I'm new to this - just trying to plan ahead.

eblong
08-06-2011, 10:54 AM
The card holder only control tells the lights and the TV. The outlets seemed to continue to function normally.

We used a room key card from WDW hotel and it works fine. That way, I didn't have to worry about leaving my room key behind, or take it out of the lanyard (the room locks on the Dream are proximity card readers, and don't require the keycard inserted into a slot to unlock the door like the door locks on the Magic or Wonder).

Makayna
08-06-2011, 12:26 PM
The card holder only control tells the lights and the TV. The outlets seemed to continue to function normally.

What about A/C?

keaster
08-06-2011, 12:30 PM
A/C functions on its own as well, it does not go off with the lights.

RayRing
08-06-2011, 01:42 PM
This is the first time I have heard about the Card/Light devices on the Dream.

This is why I like the forums. You always learn new things.

mousetravel
08-06-2011, 01:43 PM
Well i don't think it really needs a ROOM key, but you may be able to put a credit card in there, or a rewards cards. Just something that small and plastic. BUt then you must remember to take your card with you. pirate:

I wouldn't use a credit card, though, because I have read a TR where the OP's card got stolen from the slot. It was a used gift card.

I used a hotel room key that I had used at our Best Western LBV hotel.

I would use a card that you can afford to lose! (an old hotel key card, a grocery store reward card, used gift card, etc.)


So everything goes off when the card is not in the slot? What about phone chargers, clocks, etc. And I know my DH will not be happy about coming back to a hot cabin at the end of every day.


The outlets and A/C will still work.

westjones
08-06-2011, 02:03 PM
We noticed that the housekeeping staff was using the 'Do Not Disturb" signs upside down in the the slots instead of a 'key" so we started using that instead.

Hanover
08-06-2011, 08:24 PM
We noticed that the housekeeping staff was using the 'Do Not Disturb" signs upside down in the the slots instead of a 'key" so we started using that instead.

We were on the Dream last week and I saw a stateroom host do the exact same thing the first day so we did that the rest of the cruise.

extechie rbd/wdt
08-06-2011, 08:39 PM
We noticed that the housekeeping staff was using the 'Do Not Disturb" signs upside down in the the slots instead of a 'key" so we started using that instead.

Another great solution to not forgetting your Stateroom KTTW card!

However, please remember that the ship's have to generate their own electricity by running engines.

Although the Magic (had back then) and Dream (now has) the cleanest burning heavy oil (un refined diesel) engines, the less they have to run them the better for the environment :goodvibes, and the better to stop any fuel surcharges!

Even though on the Dream class you can use a store gift card, do not disturb sign, always remove it enough from the slot that it won't keep the light's on when your not "home".
And if on a Magic class ship, turn the light's off when you leave please!
Those on Alaskan cruise's will appreciate how beautiful it is, and nasty smoke from the smoke stacks won't help keep it that way!

I also believe the Wonder is "cold ironing" now in the Port of Los Angles.
(using shoreside power in port, rather than running her engines)
http://www.portoflosangeles.org/environment/alt_maritime_power.asp

http://blog.silive.com/goofy_about_disney/2011/03/disney_cruise_line_joins_port_of_la_in_clearing_th e_air.html

Ex Techie

westjones
08-06-2011, 10:18 PM
We would take out the 'sign' when we left the room. But using our KTTW was annoying because if my daughters came to the room first and used theirs and then we came in and they left we would have to switch around cards and well, it was just less trouble to use something that no one had to take with them when they left then the last person out just pulled it out.

But there were 4 of us in the same room (and my 17 year olds come and go all the time).

If it were just my husband and I in the room, it would probably be fine to use our KTTW, but with the 4 of us we were always swapping the card in the slot when someone left and someone else was still there.

mickeyfan1
08-06-2011, 10:37 PM
Silly question but what about the bathroom lights. If you take the key out at night to go to sleep how do you turn on the bathroom light. Are those lights seperate from the others or are they connected to the key card as well?

When the card is in the slot, all the lights work with normal switches, so at night, you can turn the lamps off just like at home and turn the bathroom lights on and off with the wall switch. By removing the card when you leave the room, any lights that you have left on, as well as the TV, will turn off after about 2 minutes.

Hanover
08-07-2011, 09:59 AM
Like Westjones we always took the "do not disburb" sign out before leaving the room if we all left at the same time. We strictly used it so we all didn't need to take out the kttw card from our lanyards and have one of us forget it if we left the room while others were still in the room.

SunSurfer
08-07-2011, 10:42 AM
I was wondering about the "put your key in to turn the lights on" feature of the Dream. Does it have to be the KTTW card, or will any card that size fit in there and turn on the juice?

Maybe an experiment for the lucky ones on the MV.:thumbsup2

Wonder if that would also cut the power to the outlet you've got your battery charger on?

I think I read somewhere that they ask you not leave batteries charging while you're not in the state room, so I could see that being connected as well - anyone know?

SuperRob
08-07-2011, 03:08 PM
Another great solution to not forgetting your Stateroom KTTW card!

However, please remember that the ship's have to generate their own electricity by running engines.

Although the Magic (had back then) and Dream (now has) the cleanest burning heavy oil (un refined diesel) engines, the less they have to run them the better for the environment :goodvibes, and the better to stop any fuel surcharges!

OK, except that those engines are going to have to stay running anyway. Too much other stuff on the ships to power. The only thing that could really solve that problem is rechargeable batteries on the ship than can be used when in port that charge when the ship is at sea.

extechie rbd/wdt
08-07-2011, 05:54 PM
OK, except that those engines are going to have to stay running anyway. Too much other stuff on the ships to power. The only thing that could really solve that problem is rechargeable batteries on the ship than can be used when in port that charge when the ship is at sea.

Both the Magic class and Dream class have 5 engines, and unless they are sailing full speed, not all engines are running and in fact they often run on only 4 as one will be being serviced.

If the 1250 staterooms on the Dream all leave a 60 watt light on, then that's 75,000 watts, and if the crew do the same in their cabins that's another 25,000+ watts.

100,000 watt's of electricity the ship has to generate to light staterooms and cabins with no-one in them.

I've not been on the Dream so I have no idea how much energy saving lighting they have used, but not leaving light's on, tv's on WILL help and especially when in port. If they can shut an engine down they will, and the higher and engine has to rev to drive the generators, the more fuel it uses.

As I said before:
I also believe the Wonder is "cold ironing" now in the Port of Los Angles.
(using shoreside power in port, rather than running her engines)
http://www.portoflosangeles.org/envi...time_power.asp

http://blog.silive.com/goofy_about_d...g_the_air.html

PC doesn't have the facility yet as far as I know.

Ex Techie

liemge
08-07-2011, 09:45 PM
I know fron the dream that it doesn't matter what type of card you use, any will work. But also can tell you that our hostess pulled the card up so that lights were almost always off when we returned, even though we left a card in the slot. It was easier to just push the card we left back down rather than using our current KTTW card.

molarman
08-08-2011, 08:35 PM
We just returned from the Dream on 8/7. When the card was removed, the bath lights, bedside lamps and TV went off immediately when the card was removed. The 3 overhead lights stayed on (but may have went off in 2 minutes). We made a practice of always turning off the lights when we weren't using them anyway, so when we left and pulled our card out, the room was usually dark anyway

INTERESTING>>> our stateroom host told us that the Dream had been wired improperly and that the refrigerators TURN OFF when the room card is removed as well, so the hosts no longer remove the keys left int he slots in case the guests have medications in the fridge. We had water bottles in the fridge, and didn't notice it getting warm, but we only took them out each morning (and they probably had rechilled overnight).