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coopersmom
12-04-2010, 01:45 PM
Everyone understands that "free" dining isn't actually free, right?

I say this not trying to sound mean, or snide, or any thing of the sort. I'm genuinely concerned and confused. I'm currently planning my first trip to Disney World and, as such, have read a lot of dining reviews here in order to determine our restaurant selection.

We will NOT be on the dining plan, but again and again I see in these reviews, comments and even complaints that people would be mad/complain/do something, "if I'd paid for it." Or, "if I wasn't on free dining I would have said something" to the chef/staff/manager.

Well, you DID pay for it. You paid rack rate for your room to get free dining and, while I see how in some circumstances (not mine), it could be a good deal for a family, it's in no way, "free." And it in no way costs Disney money, or they wouldn't be continually doing it (announcing it even a year in advance) and pushing it so hard. Clearly it's a very good deal for them, and very effective at driving people into their hotels and parks.

This attitude seems so prevalent, at least from what I've seen here, it's hardly surprising that Disney has let quality slide dramatically (if reports here can be taken at face value). Why wouldn't they if no one complains? (Or only a very small number do.) The less they spend, the more they make. And if people don't complain/stop coming, it's a great deal for Disney. It's just simple math.

Always makes me think of the line from "Miss Saigon" during the "Miss Saigon" contest "People don't care how much they pay, as long as it's free."

Bete
12-04-2010, 02:12 PM
It's hard to go away from Disney proper to eat each meal outside of the property especially with kids or older folks, etc. It's hard to stay offsite, too; you lose a lot of time in commutting back and forth to the parks. Many come without cars. It's not just a few minutes to get in and out of Disney proper even if you have a car. Then you have to navigate to where it is that you want to go to eat out there. The nearby restaurants to Disney don't really offer any better quality and prices are still up there. The cheaper places out there are actually lower quality in my opinion.

If you stay at a value all you need are three adults ( or 2 adults, 2 kids ) and with free dining you just about recoup the cost of the room (depends on the season) even at rack rate. You can stay at the QS level at the value free dining offer or you can upgrade for $10/day per person for the better dining plan.

We each have to do the arithmetic to see what's best for us. The dining plan includes sales tax; that's a good advantage to have at Disney. In addition, I always beat the game each day on costs for the actual plan. We probably average $60 worth of food each day by doing the dining plan that costs $45 per adult. We almost always do free dining and pay the upcharge to get the better plan and we are still money ahead in our case.

We tend to go to the places where we get the best bang for our bucks using the plan. I love free dining and I hope that promo stays around for a while.

I've been doing Disney for over 30 years now and I've seen many different promotions and I really do feel this is one of the best promos Disney has offered.

In a few cases staying at a deluxe with the perks and getting a room discount is better than free dining. This is where you have to do the arithmetic. It definitely depends on how you want to stay there and the mix of people in your party as to whether or not free dining is a better value or not.

Tinkerbellie16
12-04-2010, 02:22 PM
I understand where you are coming from but it is a promotion and the dining plan is free if you purchase a package for certain dates. You could be paying rack rate and not get the dining plan tossed in. I certainly wouldn't let it stop me from talking to a manager about a bad dining experience and it is unfortunate if anyone else let it influence what they were to say.

Technically, yes it is free dining because Disney adds their dining plan without adding to your cost. There aren't always other discounts available so you would be paying 'rack' rate anyway.

And if there are other deals out there (like a room discount), each family has to determine if the discount is better for dining or a room discount - it all depends.

I will say that it does cost Disney to offer this - it cuts into their profits. I'm not sure how they allocate their funds but some part of Disney has to 'pay' for that free dining. I'm in finance for a large company and you have to allocate these funds somewhere. 'Free' is not 'free' to the company - just to the consumer.

coopersmom
12-04-2010, 02:27 PM
I'm not talking about the cost effectiveness of free dining or even slighty trying to dissuade people from taking advantage of the deal. My point is regarding the prevailing sentiment I seem to see where many say they would complain about food quality, service, etc. IF they were paying for the meal.

My point was/is good deal or bad you ARE paying and have every right to a decent meal, regardless of whether or not you're on the dining plan or how much you paid to obtain it. And if people continue to see "free dining" as a "gift" from Disney, and therefore something they have no right to complain about, it's only natural that quality will begin to decline. Just as dining at Disney, or any theme park, used to be abysmal until legions of complaints turned the tide.

catne
12-04-2010, 03:11 PM
I think it's a stretch to blame the dining plans for a slip in quality and service. We travel a considerable amount each year, and both away & at home eat out frequently (2-3 times a week minimum.) Everywhere we go--major chain restauarants, high-end regional or local specialty places, diners, even fast food we've been seeing a big decline in food quality, variety, service and portion sizes. The sides are smaller & less extensive choices...much of the food appears to be of the type that can be prepared in large batches (as opposed to individually prepared items) There is less help everywhere--the hostess is doubling as the beverage re-filler for example (and not getting around as often as should happen) We blame the economy...all of these places, Disney included, are trying to continue to stay in business despite tough times. So corners are going to get cut everywhere they possibly can. It's not lack of magic, it's just simple economics.

When the economy has a better recovery going, and people become a little more free with their $$, I suspect we will see an increase in quality and service everywhere again when the focus returns to increasing business & keeping customers instead of just barely holding on.

Mrs D
12-04-2010, 03:13 PM
I dislike threads titled like this. Yes, Free dining is free. Many people pay rack rate at Disney, sometimes even when free dining is available, with out taking advantage of a discount. True, most are simply unaware of the discounts available.

If you call Disney right now to book a room March 1-7, 2011 they will not automatically offer you free dining. So for a family who books for that time frame and buys tickets from Disney - the free dining promotion would be completely free! You can't say it's not free just because they potentially is another discount to be had.

catne
12-04-2010, 03:29 PM
I dislike threads titled like this. Yes, Free dining is free. Many people pay rack rate at Disney, sometimes even when free dining is available, with out taking advantage of a discount. True, most are simply unaware of the discounts available.

If you call Disney right now to book a room March 1-7, 2011 they will not automatically offer you free dining. So for a family who books for that time frame and buys tickets from Disney - the free dining promotion would be completely free! You can't say it's not free just because they potentially is another discount to be had.

and for some families, even if they know about the other discounts, the free dining is substantially free (FOR REAL, lol.) If you stay in the deluxe resorts sure the room discounts are generally going to save you more. But if you stay in mods or values, you can easily get some totally free food in the discount, even allowing for the differences between discounts.

For example, if you're a young family of 4 staying at a value resort during the off-season, the typical room discount may be as little as 20% off. During the cheapest off-season (when free dining is also going) that %-off discount will only save that family about $20 a night, bringing room rate down to $80 approx. and then they have to pay full price for food. But free dining would have them paying full rate $100 night and spending very OOP on food...and getting approximately $100 worth of QSDP. Take off the difference in room rate ($20 on the %-off room rate) and yes, they did get $80 worth of QSDP totally free.

buzzmom3
12-04-2010, 03:42 PM
The Free Dining discount saved us several hundred dollars compared to the room discount. So for me, it is free but I will still be upset if the quality was not what I expected. Luckily, I haven't seen a decline in quality.

ElizabethB
12-04-2010, 03:54 PM
We stay in deluxe resorts, so a 40% off rack rate discount is much, much more valuable to us than "free" dining, and we have noticed a very serious decline in food quality since the advent of DDP.

NMW
12-04-2010, 04:03 PM
I don't understand how it's not "free" :confused:

When we go to WDW, we call WDW Travel and book a package with room, tickets and the deluxe dining plan. We have done this every year since 2002! We have NEVER gotten any kind of pin or code, so we pack rack rates. Only twice have we ever gotten any kind of discount.
1. May 2009 we happen to book during this buy 4 get 3 nights three thing.
2. May 2011 we have to go May 28-June 5 due to sons lacrosse schedule. When I called to book the CM informed me it was a free dining week. So, I only am paying the difference between the FREE basic plan and the Deluxe Plan.

So for me, the basic plan would in fact be free...and the deluxe is a discounted price of about $31 a person per night. Sure, I suppose a room discount like I had in 2008 would be better, but none are running during my trip. So, I either pay rack rate for all components of my trip or get this discount. So I honestly don't understand why you claim it's not "free" :confused3

Colleen27
12-04-2010, 06:20 PM
I don't get the mindset of not complaining or expecting less because you got a good deal (whether that is free dining or a percent-off offer on the room or whatever). The product being offered should be substantially the same, or the deal really isn't a deal - it is a lower price for an inferiour product/experience.

For us, sometimes free dining is the best deal. Sometimes it isn't. But I don't expect less of our meals or the service we receive if it happens to be the deal that works best for us on that trip.

Bete
12-04-2010, 06:56 PM
whether I was on free dining or not. Free dining does not make me nicer in that way at all. Bad is bad and I'll say something.

I've not been personally dissastisfied with free dining. For those who are maybe they should try more two credit signature restaurants or maybe even Victoria and Albert's.

Actually, I use to love club level at AKL. The food changed a few years back for the worse and I don't do it anymore. I speak with my pocket book.

There are plenty of people who are paying full price when I book a free dining package. To me, this says it's free.

I think some dissatisfaction came when the dining plan changed especially when the appetizer was dropped and gratuity was no longer included in the basic plus dining. Many wanted to gripe at that time; so, they started picking on the food and maybe most of it was unfounded; who knows.

I do believe if you are dissatisfied with your meal the restaurant will try to help if you speak up.

I do believe there are a lot more people satisfied with having free dining than those who feel it has ruin Disney dining.

Disney wants to fill the restaurants which went empty in years past. The waiters gain from increased business, too. Most people tip well at Disney. The more tables are filled the more tips there will be.

TDC Nala
12-04-2010, 07:00 PM
Whether it is "free" for you or not depends on what you would have paid without it being offered at no cost with your package - if you were going to pay rack rate and buy tickets anyway it certainly is "free." And when comparing to other discounts it's going to depend on the resort you stay at and the size and makeup of your party as to what will be the best deal. I agree some do grab at the word "free" without doing the math and maybe they could have done better as far as a discount, but for some parties or for those who are just dining plan lovers it can be the best discount.

Although I do understand, in all cases, in some way you did indeed "pay for" the food. I don't understand shrugging off bad food because it was "free" if people are indeed doing that. In my opinion if an issue arises that is serious enough for a guest to WANT to speak to a manager or guest services, they should do it, whether they're on "free dining" or not.

I've noticed a decline to the extent that I will not eat at any Disney buffet any longer, but there are still plenty of people who think they're fine. There's also lots of other restaurants that don't have as prononuced a decline or any decline at all.

msmith07101
12-04-2010, 10:40 PM
While it may not be "free", it is a savings for me on my upcoming trip. I priced my trip with the room discount they were offering and then with "free" dining. The free dining costs $100.00 more that the discounted room rate...this is to stay at Pop Century...for 2 people, 4 nights. I would most certainly spend more than $100.00 in food for 2 people in 4 days at Disney. I've never done the dining plan before and this seemed like a good opportunity to try it. I think 2 counter service meals and 2 snacks a day for each of us is perfect for our needs and how we prefer to eat on vacation...don't want to spend a lot of time in sit down restaurants. Did it last year, and really prefer to have something quick. So for me, for this trip...there is huge value in the "free" dining.

npcougar
12-04-2010, 10:52 PM
You do realize that Disney is a business. Even if there wasn't a free dining promotion, the Disney experience was going to decline. Business is all about profit now. Why are stores open on Thanksgiving? Maximizing profits. Twenty years+ ago business was different and so was Disney. If you can change the world and its greed, maybe you can have the old Disney back.

yvettedem
12-04-2010, 10:56 PM
I am so gonna regret this but I think I sorta get what OP was saying...at least in my case anyway....I got a huge discount on the room because I am a seasonal pass holder...so for me, the free dining wouldn't work because I already have tickets....I can still add the dining for $45 per adult which includes the mug and meals....honestly that should only be the cost the first day as you are not getting a mug everyday..kwim? everyday it would cost me around $7 for breakfast, 8-9 for lunch and 8-9 for dinner so that would be on the high side $25 w/out snacks which would only be what...$4? so that is again on he high side $30 for me.....it is not worth it for a Florida resident that gets discounts on rooms....my room for 12/7-12 (6 days/5 nights) was only $260ish with taxes and everything where as someone out of state could be paying in excess of $500 for the same ressie....so that $240ish that I am saving I could go to expensive restaurants if I choose to do so and still be saving money ;)

mandibc11
12-04-2010, 11:00 PM
We are renting points from a Disney Vacation Club member. Because of this, we're not allowed to utilize the Free Dining Promotion that is taking place during the dates we're there. However, when I did a comparison, it turns out that when booking through Disney, a stay in the Boardwalk Villas with Free Regular Dining FAR EXCEEDED the price we paid for the exact same villa, while also paying out of pocket for the DELUXE dining plan.

We love the dining plan and feel it's worth paying for, but really love the value of renting points from a vacation club member. :goodvibes

npcougar
12-04-2010, 11:02 PM
My family saved money with free dining when we stayed at a value. We saved money going with a room discount and paying for dining.

PrincessTiffany
12-04-2010, 11:07 PM
OP you should have done a search, because this exact topic is dicussed on here, ad nausem, on a regular basis.

Maybe you missed this one:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2603277&page=3

boltfan
12-04-2010, 11:14 PM
I've been to WDW 5 times and don't know what all the complaints are about. Maybe I'm just laid back, or maybe I'm just not as fussy as some, but I've never had a bad dining experience on any of my trips. And maybe because of this, for me, free dining is just that...free dining. And I love it!

PrincessTiffany
12-04-2010, 11:28 PM
I've been to WDW 5 times and don't know what all the complaints are about. Maybe I'm just laid back, or maybe I'm just not as fussy as some, but I've never had a bad dining experience on any of my trips. And maybe because of this, for me, free dining is just that...free dining. And I love it!
I agree with this. We have been going to WDW for many year, pre and post DDP and free dining, and I can't say we have ever had a bad meal at WDW. Of course, some places are better than others, but overall, we have always had a postive dining experience on our trip to WDW.

By the way, with the free dining discount, we are saving almost $1,500.00 off the cost of our trip next week. There is no better discount for our family of 6 than free dining.

Rachaelt
12-04-2010, 11:36 PM
I dislike threads titled like this. Yes, Free dining is free. Many people pay rack rate at Disney, sometimes even when free dining is available, with out taking advantage of a discount. True, most are simply unaware of the discounts available.

If you call Disney right now to book a room March 1-7, 2011 they will not automatically offer you free dining. So for a family who books for that time frame and buys tickets from Disney - the free dining promotion would be completely free! You can't say it's not free just because they potentially is another discount to be had.

They should be offering it. We have permission to offer it proactively right now

coopersmom
12-05-2010, 12:45 AM
OP you should have done a search, because this exact topic is dicussed on here, ad nausem, on a regular basis.

Maybe you missed this one:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2603277&page=3

But I wasn't saying it "ruined" anything, or wasn't a good value, or people shouldn't use it, or asking if it was a good idea or a bad value or vice versa ... The point was missed entirely. My comment was more about reading dining review after dining review or comments on various Disney restaurants that say "wasn't worth it if we had to pay for it," or "if I wasn't on the dining plan I would have been really mad," or something to that effect. I wasn't saying the dining plan, or free dining, was good, bad or indifferent, simply that there seems to be a large contingent that feel they don't have a right to expect quality or service because it's "free" or think they can't complain for the same reason. That's it. That was my whole point/question.

TDC Nala
12-05-2010, 08:58 AM
From reading a lot of posts where persons have problems at restaurants, they don't complain because they don't want to. They don't want to "start a confrontation." They don't want to take the time out from their vacation "arguing" with a restaurant manager or going to Guest Services. They don't want to ruin the atmosphere for their family. "At least we didn't pay for it" is another excuse.

MrsDef
12-05-2010, 11:12 AM
I get the OP's point. I priced out a discounted room with adding tickets and dining vs. paying rack rate and taking the free dining.. it was $400 more to take "free dining" so yeah.. it would have cost me a lot!

Elliesmommy
12-05-2010, 04:12 PM
Mine is almost free dining. I originally booked a 5day, 4 night WDW at a value resort for Jan. It was $1500 with airfare. No free dining!

I then found out about the free dining promotion, called WDW and added it for no additional cost at all.

Later on I called and upgraded to a moderate resort with TS dining and only paid $166 more. This was the price difference for the resort and NOT upgrading the DDP to TS, because the upgrade to the TS DDP was free!

I only upgraded to the moderate for the purpose of getting the TS along with the upgrade of resort. I probably would not have upgraded because of the resort only. I guess that I essentially paid, however to me it is almost free.

supersuperwendy
12-05-2010, 05:38 PM
We are DVC so we always pay for the dining plan when we add it to our reservations. We are in between points for 2011 and our APs expired so we decided to book a package instead. We had booked BWI for March and hoped for a good PIN in the future, but when the free dining came out I jumped on it! Our kids love POR and I no longer seem to get PIN codes so I switched to our old favorite moderate resort for August. Rack rate is fine with me.. No biggie..throw on top of that I'm not paying $1181.70 for 6 nights of dining...awesome!! That's a HUGE savings for us. You may not think so, but I do! :banana: Not to mention the room rate by changing from BWI to POR was huge and switching from March to August was a savings too!!! I'm excited! :woohoo:

ilovepete
12-05-2010, 05:41 PM
We used it last time. And I realize it's not "free" but it came out to a better deal for us than the room discount we would have gotten.

Hemlock
12-05-2010, 09:08 PM
OP you should have done a search, because this exact topic is dicussed on here, ad nausem, on a regular basis.

Maybe you missed this one:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2603277&page=3

Amen!

akadada
12-05-2010, 10:57 PM
Wheh, this post should have about three different titles! With respect. . .

First off, the forum's search program is horrible. . . so be nice when someone asks the same question twice or multiple times. (Google searching the forum is far superior to the forum's search features). I recently plugged in La Hacienda under Advanced Search and it said "No Results." What!?!?!? Secondly, forums are for conversation as much as they are for research. Different conversations can be insprired on the same topic sometimes given different people looking at different times for different purposes. Dated forum posts, unless an official thread or sticky or report, rarely last more than two weeks. People like to participate and follow live, real-time discussions. If it wasn't for that opportunity with this board, this board would not be anywhere near as popular as it is.

Okay, back to the issue at hand: we reviewed both plans and found similar results for staying at deluxe resorts in that the room discount was better than free dining by about $300. So yes, the free dining is not free. . .

Finally, with great respect, the comment about Disney and greed is misplaced. . .remember, Disney has to make a profit so that 100,000 to 1,000,000 or how ever many employees and businesses direct and indirectly related to Disney can maintain or improve their standard of living AND so that shareholders continue to invest in the company AND so that they can meet guests' expections so people come back. Greed has very little to do with Disney pricing. Operating successfully in the most powerful secular force on the planet called the capital markets is why Disney does what it does. If greed was the primary driver, Disney would have gone out of business years ago. Unlike Wall Street, Disney gets no bail out.

I value this forum and I appreciate all members. I hope my comment don't offend anyone. If they do, forgive me, it's not my intent.

Best,
AKADada

stuffed withfluff
12-05-2010, 11:18 PM
i understand nothing is free at disney.

BUT i have figured it to be $30 a day for three meals when upgraded to deluxe.
you can't tell me breakfast at chef mickey's, lunch at 50's prime time or dinner at citricos FOR 30 DOLLARS A day is not a deal.

seriously, our one meal at citricos would make up for four meals alone!

i love the free dining

baleeve
12-06-2010, 10:55 AM
I can see your point that it is not "FREE" because I booked the 25% room only rate for 12/21/10 - 12/28/10 at the POP and it came to aprox $980 then added 7 day tickets cost aprox $900 I was at $1880

I cancelled and did the Magic Your Way package with the free dining and was so happy that I got it on the last day (12/21/10) for my entire trip and it cost $2098

So it was $210 more. But for that money two adults and two children will be eating for the whole week and taking home souvenir mugs!! Lets not forget the arcade card, Planet Hollywood discount, and luggage tags. Small but noteworthy

Pretty good in my opinion.

FIFTEEN DAYS UNTIL WE ARE THERE!!!

DISdreamin'
12-06-2010, 02:43 PM
As always, it is in your best interest to run the numbers multiple ways. When I am shopping for a WDW vacation, I do the following:

1. room only discount rate + anticipate OOP dining costs + park tix

2. package rate with free dining + anticipated dining tips

3. DVC points rental + OOP dining + park tix

I based my decision on where and when to stay based on these numbers. FWIW, we're going in January again, staying at the same resort, and we're paying very nearly the same amount we paid two years ago for the same week, but only two adults and two children with the 4/3 promo while we'll be three adults and two children with free dining. The biggest difference this time around is that we won't get the $200 gift card, BUT we have an extra adult ticket plus dining. Honestly, I didn't feel too bad at all about the cost of the trip, all things considered.

Disfamguy
12-06-2010, 11:00 PM
Wow! This thread is a Buzzkill.

*sarah*
12-07-2010, 12:25 AM
You could be paying rack rate and not get the dining plan tossed in.
Technically, yes it is free dining because Disney adds their dining plan without adding to your cost. There aren't always other discounts available so you would be paying 'rack' rate anyway.



Well I don't consider paying under a hundred dollars for a hotel room "rack rate". For that cost, plus getting the "free" food, transportation to the parks and other perks for staying on property...we could not pay that amount for a lesser quatlity hotel with no continetal breakfast included around here. We stay at crummy hotels and it costs nearly $150. So yeah I will choose to believe that the food is free, cause we are not paying much at all for our rooms.

Sammie
12-07-2010, 12:30 AM
Actually it is free based on the components of the package.

is it the best bargain, for some yes for others no.

And Yes some people do pay rack rate and not get free dining.

julluvsdisney
12-07-2010, 07:32 AM
Im thinking disney maybe the wrong place for a debbie downer! I originally Had a room code and when free ding came out we saved about 700! So I don't see where this is a bad deal. Of course this is not killing disney to offer this promotion that really has nothing to do with us as the consumer. To me it is free dining when I walk away with an extra 700 in my pocket. Call it what u want to me when disney says" hey here's 700 of your money back and oh btw nothing in your trip package has changed" I call it a good deal. Hopefully your first disney trip makes you a true disney lover. Enjoy your trip!

NMW
12-07-2010, 07:47 AM
And Yes some people do pay rack rate and not get free dining.

Exactly! We have paid rack rate for every single one of our trips with the exception of May 2009 when we just happened to get the buy 4 get 3 free deal and this May 2011 when we got free Basic dining and only had to upgrade $30 a day for the deluxe plan.

We have NEVER gotten a code or pin, or whatever they are called. We are not AP holders. Some posters are making it sound like these great deals are available all the time just for the taking. That has not been our experience. For our May 2011 trip free dining is a deal, because without it, we would be paying rack rates.

BTW, I have read the unofficial Guide to WDW, looked at Mousesavers, etc...I have NEVER found these great deals some posters are talking about.

I was excited about the buy 4 get 3 free and I am excited about the free dining. For our family, those ARE deals.

rotlex
12-07-2010, 08:12 AM
I always disagree, in a friendly way, with these posts. First, as someone else has mentioned, not everyone never pays rack rate for a room. There are many folks, myself incuded, who get a pin or a discount very, very rarely. We recieved a 40% off code ONCE in the past 5 years, and STILL took free dining over it, as the trip was already booked, and the 40% discount to free dining was a wash. (Approx 1100 savings on a 10 night stay at AKL).

With that said, I still think we come out ahead with free dining. 99.9% of the year we are small eaters. However, half the enjoyment of our Disney trips includes eating. Sit downs, character meals, and well, food. :goodvibes On average, and I have figured it out many times, my wife plus kids would spend upwards of $200 per day on food if it were not for free dining.

So yeah, free dining CAN be free, and in most cases, for us at least, workd out better than any code or coupon does.

rbork
12-07-2010, 12:40 PM
Free Dining is well....free for us. We are paying rack rate for a FW cabin and tix for 5. 3 adults and DS14 and DS12. With that we get our room (including kitchen), tix, transportation, entertainment and food for ~95$ pp per day plus we are getting a 150$ giftcard. I've used the 4 for 3 deal in the past and get pin codes sometimes. I could not afford to do as much any other way.
Cabins at campgrounds around here cost upward of 200 alsoand BTW aren't as nice or include mousekeeping. So the rack rate doesn't scare me at Disney FW.
The DDP is a deal for the 5 of us. My boys eat like typical teenagers...ALOT. So they are content with the plan and it was more than enough for us last time. Plus we don't have to travel offsite and waste park time. We love staying onsite for a total Disney immersion.
95$ pp per day breaks down to 56$ for lodging and a 40$ ticket.

Seperately it would cost 281 per day in lodging, 204 in tickets, 209 for DDP
DDP costs 209 per day for 5 of us. I would pay 205$ just for 5 at Ohana's w/ tip. Now I get CS and Snacks as a bonus.

I do think Disney puts out a decent product when pincodes or discounts are used.

baleeve
12-07-2010, 01:44 PM
I actually have to correct my calculations:

I booked the discounted "room only" for $1058 at POP with pref room
Maple leaf 7 day tickets 2A 2C = $980
Total $2038

Magic Your Way with free dining: $2098 standard room

Diff of $60 (plus $118 dif pref vs. stand) means I paid $178 for dining

Not too shabby for 2 A and 2 C for 8 days/7 nights.

I'd consider that free....
:idea:

Laketravis
12-08-2010, 05:50 PM
In my case, it was free. I had booked our trip back in May - 7 nights, 8 days for two adults and a 5yo at the CR plus airfare for $4900.

When I called last month to find out how much it would cost to add the DDP to our reservation, the first CM told me $700 and some change.

I called back later that day to do it, and the second CM asked me to hold for a few minutes; came back and told me if I'd pay a reservation change charge (I think it was $15?) she'd add the DDP on my reservation and that's all I'd have to pay.

So I'm one of the ones who was probably paying full rack rates, no PINS, no special deals, etc. when I first made (and paid for) our reservations. And from my point of view, it really did save me $700 because that's what I was prepared to add to our total cost.