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princesspiglet
10-19-2010, 03:16 PM
I tried to do a search and could not find anything, so I apologize if this has already been asked ad nauseum. DD will be turning 9 on our cruise and we have an inside stateroom booked. Do any of you parents ever put your kids to bed and then go back out to a club or anywhere else for some alone adult time?

DH was thinking we could put DD to bed around 11 and then we could go for a walk on one of the upper decks by ourselves each night. We are night-owls and she is a rooster! I feel weird leaving her alone, but DH thinks she will be fine and she will have a walkie talkie in case she needs to get a hold of us for anything. We are staying on deck 7.

Any one else do this and did you feel comfortable doing it? We would probably only be gone for 30 mins at the most.

wilma-bride
10-19-2010, 03:21 PM
Personally, I wouldn't with a child of that age (and being that she will be alone, i.e. no siblings/company) but each to their own. I suspect you will get lots of differing opinions.

Just to say our DS is also a rooster but he was in the kids clubs until midnight every night of our cruise and managed very well - he was having such a great time he didn't want to leave. The kids are able to curl up with cushions/blankets and have a snooze later on in the clubs if they want :)

nenner1
10-19-2010, 03:24 PM
I tried to do a search and could not find anything, so I apologize if this has already been asked ad nauseum. DD will be turning 9 on our cruise and we have an inside stateroom booked. Do any of you parents ever put your kids to bed and then go back out to a club or anywhere else for some alone adult time?

DH was thinking we could put DD to bed around 11 and then we could go for a walk on one of the upper decks by ourselves each night. We are night-owls and she is a rooster! I feel weird leaving her alone, but DH thinks she will be fine and she will have a walkie talkie in case she needs to get a hold of us for anything. We are staying on deck 7.

Any one else do this and did you feel comfortable doing it? We would probably only be gone for 30 mins at the most.

Well our kids (9 and 11) are in their own room , so technically we leave them alone in their room all night. ;)

The flames will probably be forthcoming but we've done it and will do it again. Our kids are responsible and they know not to open the door or leave the room. They have a two way radio (we have the other) and also the phone, which they certainly know how to use. They know where we will be. And we do stop in and check from time to time. Have had no problems int he past and don't anticipate any in the future (at least not until the teenage years...LOL)

You know your kids best, you know what they can and can't handle and you will make the best decisions for your family so I say do what works for you and have a GREAT cruise! :thumbsup2

CleoPahd
10-19-2010, 03:26 PM
When my daughter was 13 we left her alone for about an hour in the room at night on two nights. I don't think I would have felt comfortable leaving her alone if she were younger. I'm sure someone else out there will have better information, but I think there are some kid groups on the ship just for this type of situation where you can leave your child supervised so that you can get away to do adult things. I guess 30 minutes isn't very long, but you just never know.

clawmachine
10-19-2010, 03:27 PM
Just keep in mind that there are lots of people on the ship who may have key access to your room (maintenance, cleaning, etc.) and there is always a chance that someone would leave the key unattended and get into the wrong hands. I would be more concerned about that than about my sleeping kids waking up and wandering the ship. Definitely a personal choice. I wouldn't do it, at least not until my kids are much older...

TinkTatoo
10-19-2010, 03:34 PM
It's not something I'd be comfortable doing. The kids clubs are there so that parents can get some adult time so if you and DH wanted to spend some time together then you could do it while your DD was in the club

princesspiglet
10-19-2010, 03:35 PM
That is how I feel too, I don't want to do it. But DH does and thinks she will be ok. She doesn't wake up afraid and is pretty responsible. But I will probabaly just put her in the kids club and she can fall asleep in there if she gets really tired. I will feel much more comfortable doing that.

bethy
10-19-2010, 03:39 PM
I have a 9 year old and that's not something I would personally feel comfortable doing. One of many things I would worry about would be what would happen if there were an emergency aboard the ship and I couldn't get to her.

budbeerlady
10-19-2010, 03:46 PM
I would not feel comfortable because of others, not because of my 10yr old DD. We booked a veranda so we could sit out by ourselves and relax when Dd goes to bed. Usually at Disney we sit on the balcony or outside the room on chairs so she can fall asleep so we try to book all vacations that way.

Page4
10-19-2010, 03:52 PM
There was story in the news this summer where a family left their kids in the hotel room in Orlando while they went to the pool and house keeping called the police and the parents actually went to jail. I can't remember the details. I'm sure you can google it. They were probably very young kids.

KingRichard
10-19-2010, 04:09 PM
There was story in the news this summer where a family left their kids in the hotel room in Orlando while they went to the pool and house keeping called the police and the parents actually went to jail. I can't remember the details. I'm sure you can google it. They were probably very young kids.

Sad, but that happens at the casino's all the time.:confused3

yashasvi
10-19-2010, 04:18 PM
I tried to do a search and could not find anything, so I apologize if this has already been asked ad nauseum. DD will be turning 9 on our cruise and we have an inside stateroom booked. Do any of you parents ever put your kids to bed and then go back out to a club or anywhere else for some alone adult time?

DH was thinking we could put DD to bed around 11 and then we could go for a walk on one of the upper decks by ourselves each night. We are night-owls and she is a rooster! I feel weird leaving her alone, but DH thinks she will be fine and she will have a walkie talkie in case she needs to get a hold of us for anything. We are staying on deck 7.

Any one else do this and did you feel comfortable doing it? We would probably only be gone for 30 mins at the most.

I confess that we did that for a few minutes (maybe 10-15 minutes) with DS (9) and DD (5) last month. I had taken a half-asleep DS to the Deck 10 to see fireworks. This was right after the pirate party and DW had not seen any of it, so I wanted to walk around with her.

So, I dropped DS off in our stateroom (Deck 6), we tucked him in and told him that we would be out walking for a few minutes and left. He was asleep when we returned. Earlier, I had carried DD all the way from Parrot Cay - she had fallen asleep during dinner.

In summary, though we were not too comfortable doing it, we did do it!

- Y's Dad

mks001
10-19-2010, 04:19 PM
I think I remember reading in one of these threads that you can call the kids club pager from any phone on the ship. Does anyone know if this is true? Is this is true, I have a very responsible DS 8 and would feel comfortable leaving him alone if a little while. My DW on the other hand might have a different opinion. I have a strong feeling though that we are going to have to pull him every night from the Oceaneer Lab.

MinnesotaMouseketeers
10-19-2010, 04:38 PM
Another no vote from me. I wouldn't feel comfortable at all doing that.

ededmd
10-19-2010, 05:11 PM
I think I would look at it like my room = my home.

I wouldn't leave my kids (8, 5) at home alone so I don't leave them alone / unsupervised on the ship.

If you would leave your 9 yo at home alone, you would be similarly fine with leaving her alone on the ship.

hopelea
10-19-2010, 05:39 PM
We cruised first when my dd's were 6 & 8. We didn't have the chance to leave them alone in the room!! We couldn't get them to the room. :rotfl: They LOVED the kids clubs and wanted to stay until they closed. I have plenty of adult time with my dh. We strolled in the moonlight and went to what clubs were open.....then around 12:30 or so we picked up the kids and FORCED them to come back to the room with us to go to bed.

lflynn
10-19-2010, 06:24 PM
:confused::confused:I agree. Your child wont want to go to sleep early anyway. We have been on DCL three times and it was not until my DD was 12 that we left her in the room alone sleeping and that was in the day. Too many people have access to your room. You probably would be too worried to enjoy yourselves anyway. My advice, dont do it.

nicki.momof3
10-19-2010, 06:29 PM
No way would I leave my 9 year old alone in the room - borders on neglectful in my eyes - FLAME away.

Skylarr29
10-19-2010, 07:15 PM
I absolutely would never leave a child that age alone.

*WDW*Groupie*
10-19-2010, 07:17 PM
No way would I leave my 9 year old in the room by herself. Not even for 3 minutes.

honeymo78
10-19-2010, 07:49 PM
Only you know your child well enough to know how they would handle waking up alone. I don't think 9 is too young to be left alone for a short period of time.

I guess I had horrible parents since my brother and I were often left at home, particularly during the winter when my mom needed to make a quick run to the corner store. When I was 10 I was a latchkey kid and walked home from school, most days with a friend or two, and was home alone for a few hours depending on my parents' work schedule. I also was allowed to ride attractions at disney alone at that age, and we never had walkie talkies. I had behaved properly and earned that freedom.
I plan on allowing my children the same freedom if I believe they can handle it.

stephe1987
10-19-2010, 08:05 PM
The legal age to be left alone is actually age 12. This law isn't one that is regularly enforced (people don't report each other, and I know lots of people who had their kids be alone at younger ages), but a friend of ours had to arrange childcare for her 11-year-old son last year while she was at work, or she wouldn't have been allowed to continue with the work experience program she was in, and her aid would have been cut off. (The son's school was a little over a quarter mile from their house.) The childcare program the son was in would actually allow him to stay until he turned 13.

My family always had 12 be the age where a kid could stay home alone anyway, so we weren't surprised. I would say older for being alone overnight, but you're going to be on the same ship and come back to the room, so that doesn't really apply.

If you decide to leave the child in the room, I suggest having someone stay with the kid, or just have the kid do the activities until midnight and then you all go to bed at 12:30 or so.

noahdove
10-19-2010, 08:30 PM
I am another vote for NOT leaving the child alone...too many things can happen...inside or outside the cabin. I guess that is why the kids clubs are there and open late..

mistyandbenjamin
10-19-2010, 08:31 PM
If something happened would you feel bad about being away? If you want to go clubbing leave the kid with a babysitter at home. I agree with previous posters, neglect. I would also be the person that would report it to the police. It takes a village to raise a kid. Throw flames!

Anjelica
10-19-2010, 08:51 PM
Another vote for no - I think 9 is to young even if she is a very responsible person. I wouldn't worry about her per se but what if someone tried to get into the stateroom when you aren't there? If there was a older sibling that was 13+ and responsible I would say fine.

Like others have posted - you may be surprised at how much time you and your husband will have without the kids as many times our kids never wanted to leave the kids clubs.

Enjoy the cruise!!!

HappyontheLake
10-19-2010, 08:53 PM
Our two little ones (who were 6 and 8) stayed LATE in the kids club. The 6 year fell asleep watching a movie and the 8 year stayed up and played. Both actions were true to their personalities. Our 11yo and 14yo didn't come back to the room until 2 or 3am each night ... they had lots of new best friends that cruise. But they ate breakfast with us each morning because they had too -- their gluten free breakfast (all four kids and myself have celieac disease) was only being served in Lumiere's by our head server.

Leave them in the kids club -- it is their for a reason and your pager exists for that reason.

Dicecatt
10-19-2010, 09:04 PM
[QUOTE=stephe1987;38650365]The legal age to be left alone is actually age 12QUOTE]

I believe it varies by state, actually, it isn't a federal law. That may be the law in your state, but it isn't in Missouri.

I'm not arguing pro or con for the 9 year old in the cabin, FYI...but some states don't even have laws that are for minimum age to be left alone. I'm also fairly certain no law like that exists in the Bahamas, lol, where the ships are registered. Although they do enforce 21 as the drinking age onboard while it is 18 in the Bahamas so who knows:)

bailey3131
10-19-2010, 09:07 PM
I agree 1000%---------NO way!!!! I would be terrified the entire time that something would happen. We have to remember that they are still little kids and no matter how responsible they are, accidents happen. Kids are curious and could have a DUH moment!! What if they decided to wake up and really wanted to take a bath and then fell asleep in the tub and drowned??? Or they were thirsty and wanted a drink from the drink station and left or they wanted to find you cause they were scared??? No kids are that responsible 100% of the time.

Just my 2 cents

JenKatt
10-19-2010, 09:08 PM
The legal age to be left alone is actually age 12. This law isn't one that is regularly enforced (people don't report each other, and I know lots of people who had their kids be alone at younger ages), but a friend of ours had to arrange childcare for her 11-year-old son last year while she was at work, or she wouldn't have been allowed to continue with the work experience program she was in, and her aid would have been cut off. (The son's school was a little over a quarter mile from their house.) The childcare program the son was in would actually allow him to stay until he turned 13.

My family always had 12 be the age where a kid could stay home alone anyway, so we weren't surprised. I would say older for being alone overnight, but you're going to be on the same ship and come back to the room, so that doesn't really apply.

If you decide to leave the child in the room, I suggest having someone stay with the kid, or just have the kid do the activities until midnight and then you all go to bed at 12:30 or so.
There's no such law in Florida. In fact most states there isn't such a law, just "word of mouth". (http://www.latchkey-kids.com/latchkey-kids-age-limits.htm)

latinqt
10-19-2010, 09:08 PM
Another vote for No. I would think the kids club would be better.:goodvibes

clawmachine
10-19-2010, 09:10 PM
What kind of concerns me is that on this open forum, for all the world to see, people are frequently posting all kinds of photos and identifying information, including their vacation date, kids' ages and sometimes even their room number. I've done some of that myself. :(

I'm pretty trusting generally speaking, but it only takes one sick individual to take advantage of this information for illicit purposes...

paceyswife
10-19-2010, 09:21 PM
What kind of concerns me is that on this open forum, for all the world to see, people are frequently posting all kinds of photos and identifying information, including their vacation date, kids' ages and sometimes even their room number. I've done some of that myself. :(

I'm pretty trusting generally speaking, but it only takes one sick individual to take advantage of this information for illicit purposes...

I was just thinking that myself. I recently read a thread that made me wonder who really wrote it. It was from a twelve year old girl looking for other girls her age who would want to be friends on the cruise. You really don't know who is reading or writing these posts ( I tend to be quite trusting) but you just never know.

I would have to say NO as well. Would you feel comfortable leaving your child in a hotel room and go out? It only takes a blink of an eye for something to happen.

tiggspring
10-19-2010, 09:38 PM
That is how I feel too, I don't want to do it. But DH does and thinks she will be ok. She doesn't wake up afraid and is pretty responsible. But I will probabaly just put her in the kids club and she can fall asleep in there if she gets really tired. I will feel much more comfortable doing that.

My question is would you leave your child sleeping in a locked car in a busy town with a population the size of a cruise ship? That is basicly what you are doing. There are alot of stangers on the ship and it only takes one to hurt your child. Children sleep soundly my dont even wake up with an alarm clock. Are you sure she would wake up if somone entered the room even if it was just to do some sort of service like turn down? I wouldnt do this until she was old enough to stay home alone unless she had a buddy. The ship may have a rule about this as well. I know our local family theme parks states anyone under 12 cannot be alone at all.

Just a thought.

JenKatt
10-19-2010, 09:40 PM
My question is would you leave your child sleeping in a locked car in a busy town with a population the size of a cruise ship? That is basicly what you are doing. There are alot of stangers on the ship and it only takes one to hurt your child. Children sleep soundly my dont even wake up with an alarm clock. Are you sure she would wake up if somone entered the room even if it was just to do some sort of service like turn down? I wouldnt do this until she was old enough to stay home alone unless she had a buddy. The ship may have a rule about this as well. I know our local family theme parks states anyone under 12 cannot be alone at all.

Just a thought.
Straight from a cast member, at WDW it is 7. Anyone over 7 can be along in a park.

LaurenLC
10-19-2010, 09:51 PM
No, I wouldn't leave a child that age alone.

Super*Mum
10-19-2010, 10:27 PM
7 at WDW???????? I really can't believe that. Crazzzzy.

On my last cruise (not DCL) I would only leave my 9 year old in the morning while brushing his teeth to go up to the buffet (we were the floor below and our cabin was right by the stairs that led directly into the buffet) to grab a couple items. If I was in the buffet and he was standing outside the cabin, I could hear him scream (I know this because there were kids who were yelling their requests up to their parents every morning). I was gone less than 5 minutes each day but it was nerve wracking. My child is, hands down, the most responsible child in the world. If there were no outside crimes in the world he would be the one to trust implicitly. However, if I was nervous for those 5 minutes... I would be wayyyyyyy too nervous to go to a bar and enjoy myself.... and if I'm shelling out that kind of money for a drink... I want to be undisturbed and HAPPY!

The kids club on our last cruise was terrible. There were 10 kids on the ship TOTAL. A couple were teens, three were toddlers, and the other five were from 5-12 years old. Even with that shabby of a club my son still loved it and would often ask to go. I would imagine DCL would be 100 times more fun and your child will be begging you to go to the club for the night and stay up well past his bedtime! That is the fun of trips for kids: relaxed rules on bedtime, treats, and swimming.

mhsjax
10-19-2010, 10:29 PM
The legal age to be left alone is actually age 12. This law isn't one that is regularly enforced (people don't report each other, and I know lots of people who had their kids be alone at younger ages), but a friend of ours had to arrange childcare for her 11-year-old son last year while she was at work, or she wouldn't have been allowed to continue with the work experience program she was in, and her aid would have been cut off. (The son's school was a little over a quarter mile from their house.) The childcare program the son was in would actually allow him to stay until he turned 13.

My family always had 12 be the age where a kid could stay home alone anyway, so we weren't surprised. I would say older for being alone overnight, but you're going to be on the same ship and come back to the room, so that doesn't really apply.

If you decide to leave the child in the room, I suggest having someone stay with the kid, or just have the kid do the activities until midnight and then you all go to bed at 12:30 or so.

Maybe in Ca but in Florida there is no law, it has been a topic on the news on several occasions, it is left up to the parent. Obviously, not a baby or toddler, but within reason the parents decide.

PizzieDuster
10-19-2010, 10:32 PM
After watching Lovely Bones on my TV today...never! That movie scared the day lights out of me. I usually pick up my daughter from school at the sidewalk by the buses but today - rain and all I was in front of her class room. And she's 12 :scared1: I was going to let her check herself out of the club if she met a friend, but now, no way!!!!

"Got Disney"
10-19-2010, 11:40 PM
My take is leave her in the club...by the time everything winds down so will you and at that time the club will be closing. When my kids were young we had to drag them out:rotfl2:literally

I dont know if they still do this but the ship also use to be able to recommend babysitters that would come to your room and babysit....they were cast members and such and those that worked in the kids clubs but were off for the night . They charged like 12 bucks an hr. But that was a long time ago. when you get there you can ask at the desk. Also let me mention that at that time my one son was to young to go into the kids club...before they had the nursery.

I always found that by the time the kids clubs closed I was so done after such a long day. Not to mention by late night the ship is empty.

I dont recall....have you been on the DCL before?

my boys have had run of the ship since they were 11 and 14...own keys..but they are DCL grown....they know the ropes. And we had a white board in the cabin that they needed to check in at every 2 hrs but DH and I were always seeing them sooner than that. This is the first year they will have there own cabin.....but they will be 14 and 17.

So i say wait another year or so till she is around 11 or 12....than she will be a little older...have a great awesome cruise!

Susie22
10-19-2010, 11:51 PM
According to Disney cruise lines 8 year olds are free to check themselves in and out of the clubs as they see fit. I would be MUCH more comfortable leaving my 9 year old in a locked room by herself than allowing her to wander the ship as she pleases. If she had a walkie talkie and I wasn't far away, and she was asleep, sure I would do it for an hour or so. Flame away. I know plenty of 9 and 10 year olds who babysit (not my kids, I think it's too young, but I know lots of people who do it). I really don't think it's a big deal.

budwmn
10-20-2010, 12:11 AM
If you do leave your child alone, put the Don Not Disturb sign on the door. Castmembers are not allowed to enter a room if the sign is out. While it doesn't lock someone with key access out, it will keep the cabin steward from dropping something off in the room while you're gone.

Evan&Kimberly
10-20-2010, 12:34 AM
My question would be, do you leave them alone at home at night:scared1:? For me there is nothing that important going on the ship that would even make me consider leaving a young child in a room alone. I realize that you and your wife may want some alone time, so you may want to consider bringing a family member with you on your cruise to see after your children or find out what kind of sitters they have on the ship. I cruise along with my 5 yr old son and I would not even consider a stranger watching my child on a one on one environment a 9 yr old maybe. Just think if you left them alone and something happened, you guys would not be able to live with that. Last thing you want to hear is that child was missing due to parents leaving child in cabin room alone, while they were out busting a move :banana:on the dance floor.

K8T
10-20-2010, 06:06 AM
Hi

Several years ago now, our dd was 10 months and we left her in the cabin on a cruise ship, with a 'baby listening' sevice (via the telephone), We were supposed to be out for a 'special' meal, but I just couldn't relax and kept going down (just one floor) and checking she was still asleep (she was in a crib), it made for a horrid evening.

Several years later, we did a similar thing in a hotel, the company provided a girl to listen in and check rooms (up to three at a time), whilst we were having dinner, again, my dd was 3 and asleep and settled when I went down to dinner, same on return, but I didn't relax throughout the dinner, I did it because my friends, in the rooms adjacent said it would be OK and they were leaving their kids too.

That same summer, Madeline McCann was taken from her room in Portugal and I realised the risk I had taken with my dd. Who knows who has access and what if your dd decided to go out for a drink, or look for you? I don't always make the right decisions in life at my age, can a 9 year old?

It takes just a moment for lives to change forever.

Kate

I just wanted to add, our dd is now 6 and although we are always worried about late nights and getting her to bed, we have found that on DCL, there is so much going on, that she seems to keep going. We go to the show, drop her off at kids club, go have a drink ourselves and pick her back up at around 10.30/11pm, by the time she is in bed, cookies and milk, we are all ready to sleep to be honest!!

Normally she would be in bed at 7.30pm, at home!

kaseyC
10-20-2010, 06:46 AM
I dont know if they still do this but the ship also use to be able to recommend babysitters that would come to your room and babysit....they were cast members and such and those that worked in the kids clubs but were off for the night . They charged like 12 bucks an hr. But that was a long time ago. when you get there you can ask at the desk. Also let me mention that at that time my one son was to young to go into the kids club...before they had the nursery.


When was this? Was this a Disney ship? We've been sailing DCL since 2000 and I don't recall there ever being "in stateroom" babysitting and Flounder's nursery has always been a part of DCL's ships since I've been sailing them.

owensjro
10-20-2010, 10:15 AM
Here's a site that shows the age limits for being left alone at home. Seem to be a wide range with a majority being "none".

http://www.latchkey-kids.com/latchkey-kids-age-limits.htm

Jim

mic.keyfan
10-20-2010, 10:51 AM
In 2007 we took a 4 night cruise on the Wonder. Our DS fell asleep during the Pirate Party, and we put him to bed...I tried to enjoy the rest of the festivities, but couldn't stay away from our stateroom. I checked on him at least every 1/2 hour and after about the third time gave up and stayed in the room on the balcony, because I FELT SOOO GUILTY!!!
I think this is a normal response, and you need to go with your gut! Unfortunately in this day and age terrible things happen when we least expect it. Our DS was 6 at the time, and he was nervouse about being away from us in the kids clubs. It didn't help that his older brother and cousin were able to come and go as they pleased as they are 6 years older than him. This time (March 5, 2011-7day) he plans to spend lots of time in his club, and if not...We'll wait for our 15 year old to come back to the room before we head out!

Lokkabear
10-20-2010, 11:05 AM
I think a 9 yr old girl alone is a definate NO vote from me as well. First off, she is far too young and second of all she is alone! I have a 13 yr old DS and an 11 yr old DD and I would have no problem with them in the room alone but I have a feeling I am going to want to go to bed before they do...lol. If it were just one or the other I would not feel comfortable with them alone, even my 13 yr old. At least together they have company and security. They are very responsible kids but my peace of mind does not rely on their responsibility in this situation but the actions of others. Just my 2 cents.

Anjelica
10-20-2010, 11:13 AM
Here's a site that shows the age limits for being left alone at home. Seem to be a wide range with a majority being "none".

http://www.latchkey-kids.com/latchkey-kids-age-limits.htm

Jim

In Illinois - it's not as clear cut as "14" as even the state DCFS outlines the following:

Illinois law defines a neglected minor, in part, as “any minor under the age of 14 years whose parent or other person responsible for the minor’s welfare leaves the minor without supervision for an unreasonable period of time without regard for the mental or physical health, safety or welfare of that minor.”

http://www.state.il.us/DCFS/docs/alone.doc

randyamy
10-20-2010, 11:52 AM
This is a personal decision that each parent must make based upon their own children. If I did have to make a general age recommendation, it would be around 11.

I remember staying at home alone when I was that age and was able to handle an incident where someone broke into our house without much difficulty. True story - I heard a noise, saw a guy trying to break in a window, grabbed the cordless phone and walked out the front door and to a neighbors house. The police came and arrested him in the house. That ring of thieves was foiled by an 11 year-old!

In the end, if you're going to be nervous about them being alone the entire time that you're out, you probably shouldn't leave them alone.

mic.keyfan
10-20-2010, 12:01 PM
I think a 9 yr old girl alone is a definate NO vote from me as well. First off, she is far too young and second of all she is alone! I have a 13 yr old DS and an 11 yr old DD and I would have no problem with them in the room alone but I have a feeling I am going to want to go to bed before they do...lol. If it were just one or the other I would not feel comfortable with them alone, even my 13 yr old. At least together they have company and security. They are very responsible kids but my peace of mind does not rely on their responsibility in this situation but the actions of others. Just my 2 cents.

I totally agree!!! It is not the kids I am worried about...It's the crazies out there:worried:

I couldn't help but see that you have a DS named Kayle too, Lokkabear....Cool! Not a common name!!!!

Page4
10-20-2010, 12:32 PM
Here's the link to the story of the couple arrested in Orlando. http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20095368/detail.html

ColoradoDisneyFreaks
10-20-2010, 02:39 PM
I think the best answer I can give would be "it depends". If you think your DD is ready to be by herself for a short period of time (the OP is talking about a walk on deck 10 with DH, not clubbing or going to the bar...) and you think she's responsible enough to understand the rules, whatever you set them out to be, then I'd say go for it.

If you feel you'd be too concerned about her to have a good time, then go ahead and check her into the lab for that walk, at 9 our kids are certainly old enough to be able to do chores around the house and help out, and we did allow our DD limited check-in/check-out permissions on our last cruise.

orlandothebeagle
10-20-2010, 02:47 PM
If you do leave your child alone, put the Don Not Disturb sign on the door. Castmembers are not allowed to enter a room if the sign is out. While it doesn't lock someone with key access out, it will keep the cabin steward from dropping something off in the room while you're gone.

MAybe not, but kids move them, Ive seen them doing it.

anna08
10-20-2010, 02:53 PM
My guess is you (& therefore DH) will have a much more enjoyable walk knowing she's safe in the kids' club. The beauty of the cruise ship is that compared with WDW, everything is such a close distance. Carrying/walking home a sleepy child is a LOT easier on the boat and so quick she might just stay asleep. Now, if only as adults, we could sleep that soundly!

MommaMouse411
10-20-2010, 02:53 PM
wow...my opinion is no don't leave her..because DH will be chilliing and you will be a wreck...so how fun is alone time now...I would feel more comfortable with a child in the kids club...and if she's responsible she won't leave the club without your consent...

KSDisneyDad
10-20-2010, 02:57 PM
Completely alone...no. With older siblings, I would do it. We've never let our 8 year old be alone or have freedom on the ship. We have let our older boys do it as a pair (11 and older).

There are a lot of DISers who book balcony rooms with an inside room across the hall for the kids. I'm often surprised at how young the kids are that sleep in that room alone. Granted, it's more than one, but I've seen it posted with the oldest child being 9 or under. We're going to do this for the first time in 2012, but by then our kids will be ages 17 through 10.

I also agree about the Kids clubs. The kids can watch a movie or sleep at night. We've picked up a sleeping child many times from the kids clubs.

7 at WDW???????? I really can't believe that. Crazzzzy.

On my last cruise (not DCL) I would only leave my 9 year old in the morning while brushing his teeth to go up to the buffet (we were the floor below and our cabin was right by the stairs that led directly into the buffet) to grab a couple items. If I was in the buffet and he was standing outside the cabin, I could hear him scream (I know this because there were kids who were yelling their requests up to their parents every morning). I was gone less than 5 minutes each day but it was nerve wracking. My child is, hands down, the most responsible child in the world. If there were no outside crimes in the world he would be the one to trust implicitly. However, if I was nervous for those 5 minutes... I would be wayyyyyyy too nervous to go to a bar and enjoy myself.... and if I'm shelling out that kind of money for a drink... I want to be undisturbed and HAPPY!

The kids club on our last cruise was terrible. There were 10 kids on the ship TOTAL. A couple were teens, three were toddlers, and the other five were from 5-12 years old. Even with that shabby of a club my son still loved it and would often ask to go. I would imagine DCL would be 100 times more fun and your child will be begging you to go to the club for the night and stay up well past his bedtime! That is the fun of trips for kids: relaxed rules on bedtime, treats, and swimming.

Was this a Disney cruise with only 10 kids onboard??? It sounds more like the Princess Cruise my DW went on with her Mom and sister. She said it was three days before she even saw a kid onboard.

mamapenguin
10-20-2010, 03:02 PM
The legal age to be left alone is actually age 12. This law isn't one that is regularly enforced (people don't report each other, and I know lots of people who had their kids be alone at younger ages), but a friend of ours had to arrange childcare for her 11-year-old son last year while she was at work, or she wouldn't have been allowed to continue with the work experience program she was in, and her aid would have been cut off. (The son's school was a little over a quarter mile from their house.) The childcare program the son was in would actually allow him to stay until he turned 13.

My family always had 12 be the age where a kid could stay home alone anyway, so we weren't surprised. I would say older for being alone overnight, but you're going to be on the same ship and come back to the room, so that doesn't really apply.

If you decide to leave the child in the room, I suggest having someone stay with the kid, or just have the kid do the activities until midnight and then you all go to bed at 12:30 or so.

Legal age where? In Oregon last time I checked it was 10 YO, so it must vary by state.
I probably wouldn't do it at 9, but my kids are 6 & turning 15 during the cruise. I wouldn't leave the 6 YO alone, but with her 15 YO sis I would.

justhat
10-20-2010, 03:29 PM
You also have to worry that she might deadbolt the door, then you're locked out. And if she's sleeping, and sleeps anything like my daughter, she'll never hear you knocking and pounding on the door. And if it's midnight when you return, or later, how loud can you really be without annoying the neighbors? You could call, but again, my daughter has slept through the phone many times. Or she might not even answer if if she isn't sure it's you. So then DCL will have to forcibly open the door.

And it might seem crazy, but a few years ago, before we had kids, we were in Puerto Rico with some friends. They had older kids, 8yo and 10yo, and left them in the room after bedtime to go out to dinner. We were eating in the hotel, so only a few floors away, they put the kids to bed and thought it would be fine. Well my friend's husband forgot his wallet in the room so he went back up to get it and the door was deadbolted so he key wouldn't work. He knocked, pounded, yelled, etc. No answer. He came back down, told his wife, they called the room, banged on the door some more and still nothing. They went in our room to look over the balcony and the room was pitch black, so they couldn't even see if the kids were still there or not. The hotel couldn't open the door since it was deadbolted so they ended up having to break it down, at my friend's expense, only to find their kids sleeping in bed. Through all of that they slept!! And they asked them about the door and the 10yo said he got out of bed to deadbolt it when they left cause that's what the parents always did at night.

Needless to say, the meal was wrecked for all involved and they ended up owing a small fortune to the hotel for damages.

With free kids clubs open till 1am, why take the risk of having your daughter alone in the room? Just leave her in the club where you know she'll be safe and collect her when you're done for the evening.

orlandothebeagle
10-20-2010, 03:35 PM
You also have to worry that she might deadbolt the door, then you're locked out. And if she's sleeping, and sleeps anything like my daughter, she'll never hear you knocking and pounding on the door. And if it's midnight when you return, or later, how loud can you really be without annoying the neighbors? You could call, but again, my daughter has slept through the phone many times. Or she might not even answer if if she isn't sure it's you. So then DCL will have to forcibly open the door.

And it might seem crazy, but a few years ago, before we had kids, we were in Puerto Rico with some friends. They had older kids, 8yo and 10yo, and left them in the room after bedtime to go out to dinner. We were eating in the hotel, so only a few floors away, they put the kids to bed and thought it would be fine. Well my friend's husband forgot his wallet in the room so he went back up to get it and the door was deadbolted so he key wouldn't work. He knocked, pounded, yelled, etc. No answer. He came back down, told his wife, they called the room, banged on the door some more and still nothing. They went in our room to look over the balcony and the room was pitch black, so they couldn't even see if the kids were still there or not. The hotel couldn't open the door since it was deadbolted so they ended up having to break it down, at my friend's expense, only to find their kids sleeping in bed. Through all of that they slept!! And they asked them about the door and the 10yo said he got out of bed to deadbolt it when they left cause that's what the parents always did at night.

Needless to say, the meal was wrecked for all involved and they ended up owing a small fortune to the hotel for damages.

With free kids clubs open till 1am, why take the risk of having your daughter alone in the room? Just leave her in the club where you know she'll be safe and collect her when you're done for the evening.

Bet your friends blood pressure has never been the same again,
I could never have left my neice(she lived/holidayed with us) when you pay all that for the cruise and the clubs,,use them.
Imagine if she came out the room for some reason, heck I got lost ALL the time, it would be horrible.

wdwwishes
10-20-2010, 03:35 PM
I figure, if something were to happen and the situation made the headlines would I embarrassed by my actions. If the answer if yes, then I come up with plan B. This would definitely be a Plan B situation for me.

wilma-bride
10-20-2010, 03:48 PM
There are a lot of DISers who book balcony rooms with an inside room across the hall for the kids. I'm often surprised at how young the kids are that sleep in that room alone. Granted, it's more than one, but I've seen it posted with the oldest child being 9 or under. We're going to do this for the first time in 2012, but by then our kids will be ages 17 through 10.



This always surprises me. We had two staterooms booked on our last cruise. Dh, myself and DS (7) slept in one and our two DDs (15 and 16) slept in the other BUT they were next door to each other. Had they been on a different deck or even further down the corridor, I wouldn't have been comfortable letting them sleep in the room without an adult, more in case of an emergency in the night. I would be worried that they would panic and not be able to find their muster point.

nettii
10-20-2010, 06:56 PM
Do you rember several years ago the family who lost the little girl they left while going to dinner within the resort they were staying in? I dont think they ever found her! And if I knew someone left a youg child like that alone Id report them. You cant leave a child that age in your car, or home alone.

lisamarch
10-20-2010, 09:03 PM
According to Disney cruise lines 8 year olds are free to check themselves in and out of the clubs as they see fit. I would be MUCH more comfortable leaving my 9 year old in a locked room by herself than allowing her to wander the ship as she pleases. If she had a walkie talkie and I wasn't far away, and she was asleep, sure I would do it for an hour or so. Flame away. I know plenty of 9 and 10 year olds who babysit (not my kids, I think it's too young, but I know lots of people who do it). I really don't think it's a big deal.

I agree. PLENTY of people give their kids the in and out privileges and the kids hang out during the day in the room alone. What exactly is the difference? Granted, my DS9 will sleep through ANYTHING and the deadbolt scares me the most...but if you trust your child to have in and out privileges, and you set rules, I don't think it's worth judging others.

And where I'm from in Illinois, hardly any 4th graders (age 9 or 10) even have access to after-school child care. So plenty of kids are in a huge house with more dangers than what's in a stateroom.

clawmachine
10-20-2010, 09:05 PM
Do you rember several years ago the family who lost the little girl they left while going to dinner within the resort they were staying in? I dont think they ever found her! And if I knew someone left a youg child like that alone Id report them. You cant leave a child that age in your car, or home alone.


An earlier poster mentioned her - Madeleine McCann. I googled her last night when this thread started up and ended up in tears reading through the website her family constantly maintains to try to find her. It has been almost 3 and a half years. :(

nettii
10-21-2010, 06:51 AM
An earlier poster mentioned her - Madeleine McCann. I googled her last night when this thread started up and ended up in tears reading through the website her family constantly maintains to try to find her. It has been almost 3 and a half years. :(

I had forgot her name. Thank you.
My Husband Have been very tempted on vacation to leave the kids and go. Just couldnt risk it.

Mickeyhugger
10-21-2010, 11:13 AM
I agree. PLENTY of people give their kids the in and out privileges and the kids hang out during the day in the room alone. What exactly is the difference? Granted, my DS9 will sleep through ANYTHING and the deadbolt scares me the most...but if you trust your child to have in and out privileges, and you set rules, I don't think it's worth judging others.


I agree.

clawmachine
10-21-2010, 12:34 PM
People just have different limits for risk-taking. I'm the type of person who is unwilling to take many personal safety risks at all. I don't even drive to the end of my street without my seat belt on and my car doors locked, epipens in my purse (I have a severe food allergy). I didn't feel like anyone here was judging the OP. The OP was genuinely interested in people's opinions and experience and I think the discussion is a good one. MOST things we fear in life will never happen, but each individual has to weigh the cost/benefit to each action they take.

As for children being allowed to sign in and out of clubs during the day (or even hanging out in the stateroom while awake), I see that as a very different issue. During the day there will be tons of people out and about who might spot something amiss or who could help a lost or confused child. At night time, a sleeping child alone in a room is IMO very vulnerable to anyone who may be up to no good..

disneyfool_1202
10-21-2010, 12:42 PM
I wouldn't feel comfortable about doing it - I know some kids are very responsible at a young age and others are dead asleep until the morning but I personally worry about the "emergency situation" - let's face it - anything can happen at any time. If there was an emergency on the ship and you were one place and couldn't get back to your cabin your child would be all alone and not know whether to stay in the room or go to the assigned assembly station - someplace you also may not be able to get to. Not to mention the fright / mental trauma that would cause a child. I would put my child in the kids club (as many have said) because at least there, they are not alone and there are procedures in place in the event of an emergency.
Yes I'm the worry wart (comes from being a nurse I suppose.....) but 9/11 changed my perspective on many things- even 9 years later...

emum
10-22-2010, 07:33 AM
I've been cruising for 35 years. Back in the 70s, my parents would leave my younger sister and I alone in the cabin to sleep every night (aged 3 and 6). Although, the ship had a night nurse who checked on registered cabins every hour until the parents arrived back.

That said, I wouldn't leave my 9yo alone in a cabin at might (and he too is up at the crack of dawn). With his very responsible 13yo sister -yes.

Cheers,
Sally :)

catzle
10-22-2010, 10:50 AM
Never! Too nervous wouldn't enjoy myself. Would worry the whole time and the list goes on. Mine are 9 and 11 and I don't let them alone at our home so I would not let them alone a huge ship with a thousand people I do not know. Too much could happen, they have a bad dream, wake up crying, want you leave the room to find you...

Scampi
10-22-2010, 10:56 AM
I left my 9 year old in the kids club and when I wold pick him up late at night, he was sound asleep in front of the big tv screen.

Stinkerbe11
10-22-2010, 11:28 AM
In current times you really have to be extra vigilant, especially when it comes to kids. Believe it or not there are disgusting people out there gathering information on families (which is too readily available IMO) waiting for a moment of opportunity to exploit a child. This has happened on cruise ship before and you never know if your child is a target. I may be a little overprotective but I will never apologize for protecting my children. Having said that, it is ultimately your decision but I would at least consider the kids club for peace of mind.

Princessandthemommy
10-22-2010, 11:28 AM
We all have different parenting styles and know our children. Talk to your child and see what their take on it is, if leaving them is an option. See how they feel about it and take their lead on things. Talk about ship safety, talk about all the what "if's".

The lab is open late so that is an option as well.

Once on-board, see what your comfort level is and go from there.

But once again you know your family, children and comfort level is. What works for some may not work for others.

insureman
10-22-2010, 11:54 AM
From an FBI excerpt:

"If you are going to go on a cruise, you want to treat it like you are going to a small city," says David Hearn, a supervisory special agent in the FBI's Indian Country/Special Jurisdiction Unit, which coordinates with field offices and the FBI's legal attachés overseas to investigate crimes on the high seas. "You don't know the people on a cruise ship. You don't know who's in the cabin next to you. Crime doesn't stop just because you are on a boat."

rcchello
10-22-2010, 12:37 PM
If you decide to leave your sons or daughters alone in the stateroom, I suggest you do not mention it to anyone. As you can see from this thread if you mention it to someone, a large number of people will call you neglectful. It really does not matter the age of the child, some will call you neglectful right up to the point your children are married.

For some kids the first time they can do something without supervision is college. If you believe colleges, they are now having problems of parents calling administrators and professors on behalf of their supposedly grown children.

Good luck with whatever decision you make. You know your child best!

DLW8
10-22-2010, 01:15 PM
I agree. PLENTY of people give their kids the in and out privileges and the kids hang out during the day in the room alone. What exactly is the difference? Granted, my DS9 will sleep through ANYTHING and the deadbolt scares me the most...but if you trust your child to have in and out privileges, and you set rules, I don't think it's worth judging others.

And where I'm from in Illinois, hardly any 4th graders (age 9 or 10) even have access to after-school child care. So plenty of kids are in a huge house with more dangers than what's in a stateroom.

Hey Lisa - WOW, I thought it was early enough here in CT where I live where our after school program stops after 5th grade. I am 2 years away from that, but am already freaking out about my 2 kids home alone for a few hours when they are in 6th grade! 4th grade would put me over the edge (they are in 4th now!)

brucechase
10-22-2010, 02:42 PM
I would recommend that everyone take their kids to a "stranger danger" self defense course if you even think about leaving them alone for any length of time (at home or on a cruise). Many police agencies and even karate schools offer these classes free.

As a side note, my 13YO daughter who did this at 10 is now close to a black belt. I don't worry much about her (I still worry some).

carolinagirl268
10-22-2010, 06:01 PM
I agree. PLENTY of people give their kids the in and out privileges and the kids hang out during the day in the room alone. What exactly is the difference? Granted, my DS9 will sleep through ANYTHING and the deadbolt scares me the most...but if you trust your child to have in and out privileges, and you set rules, I don't think it's worth judging others.

And where I'm from in Illinois, hardly any 4th graders (age 9 or 10) even have access to after-school child care. So plenty of kids are in a huge house with more dangers than what's in a stateroom.

I couldn't agree more about the deadbolt scaring me more than someone breaking in to the stateroom. You can kill yourself with paranoia.

Mommy Poppins
10-22-2010, 06:08 PM
Everyone's kids are different. If you are comfortable with it, then go ahead. If not, then take your child to the kids' club. You will not be able to relax with your DH and enjoy the ship if you are worrying about your child. We would leave ours alone, but we have 3 and our oldest is almost 15. With an only child, it might make all of you feel better to use the kids' club.

bz8bls
10-23-2010, 09:14 PM
I have always wondered why people put their kids pictures on this forum.:eek:
As much as I love reading trip reports on this forum, I think parents should be really careful posting kids photos. :confused3. JMHO

What kind of concerns me is that on this open forum, for all the world to see, people are frequently posting all kinds of photos and identifying information, including their vacation date, kids' ages and sometimes even their room number. I've done some of that myself. :(

I'm pretty trusting generally speaking, but it only takes one sick individual to take advantage of this information for illicit purposes...

carmie3377
10-23-2010, 09:22 PM
I have always wondered why people put their kids pictures on this forum.:eek:
As much as I love reading trip reports on this forum, I think parents should be really careful posting kids photos. :confused3. JMHO

As long as my last name and location are not listed, I don't mind as there is no way to know who they are or where we are located. Plus, to think of the THOUSANDS of other peoples' vacation photos that my family is in, their pictures are all over the county anyway. I'd be more concerned having their picture w/name in a local newspaper.

mrsklamc
10-23-2010, 09:45 PM
I can agree that it may depend on the 9 year old, but DH and I wouldn't do it- we're rather paranoid.

As for Internet pics- you can never be totally safe. That dr.s family that was tortured and murdered- where was it, Massachusetts? They were followed home from the grocery store.

The McCanns, on the other hand- I am just baffled that they weren't charged with neglect. I'm sure there are those who would say they've suffered enough- but unfortunatly theirs pales in comparison to what their daughter probably suffered and possibly continues to suffer, if she was trafficked.

svcutler
10-23-2010, 11:03 PM
I wouldn't do it either. Do you remember the family from the UK that was on vacation at an island resort and they left their young daughter in the room while they ate dinner next door. They came back and there daughter was gone (Maddie, I believe the girls' name was) and never seen from again.

Not trying to be dramatic, but realistic. Take them to the kids club and/or see if you can hire a babysitter to sit in your room. Other cruise lines offer this service and if you want her to be in her room rather than the kids club, perhaps you can go this route.

Good luck!

gmark2000
03-29-2012, 03:30 PM
This is an old thread, but I wonder if people have differing opinions today that the adults can carry the portable Wave phones from the cabin for over a year now and kids can call the other handset?

Chernabog#1fan
03-29-2012, 04:13 PM
This is an old thread, but I wonder if people have differing opinions today that the adults can carry the portable Wave phones from the cabin for over a year now and kids can call the other handset?
We just got back from a cruise. I would have left my 9 year old in the room by himself but he would be terrified if he woke up alone. If he was not going to go to sleep and we were running to get a drink, he was fine if we left him. But he made it clear he was not fine if he was to go to sleep. He suffers from severe nightmares at time though so I would not want to be away while he was sleeping.

disneymagicgirl
03-29-2012, 04:22 PM
I'm hoping to leave our 3 kiddos in the room while DH and I go out a few times. We will let DD (will be 13) stay out till 10-11pm and then come sit with the 2 sleeping boys while we go out for a bit. If I get there and feel it is unsafe, we will scratch the plan and hope to book more Nsy time.

Melcatfish
03-29-2012, 04:25 PM
Well as there is a kids club that my kids stay up well past bed time enjoying then I wouldn't go with the leaving her alone option. However I do think that the comparisons with the Madeleine McCann story are not exactly a good parallel.

To start with Madeleine (who from memory was 4 years old) and her two younger siblings were left in an apartment while the parents went to a restaurant near their resort for the evening. It also appears the parents state they left the doors unlocked in case of emergency.

The OP's responsible 9 year old is a lot different from a 4 year old (I teach 3 & 4 year olds as well as having 2 kids myself) They are also talking about a short walk on deck not an evening out dining and drinking.

As I said in the circumstances it wouldn't be my choice to leave the 9 year old as there is another option but the vast number of parents who let their "responsible" 8 & 9 year olds have run of the ship in the day seem to be strangely quiet on this thread. OK so we are all a little more on edge at night in the dark but do people really think that a child alone wandering in public spaces is in less danger than a child alone sleeping in their locked private cabin at night? In either situation something *could* go wrong - but in terms of risk I would say that there is a lot more access to kids when they are wandering around the ship in the day.

Just my humble opinion
Mel
x

PS While of course "stranger danger" is still something to be aware of and teach children about the vast majority of harm done to children is by a person known to them not the stranger lurking in the shadows...

wmharley
03-29-2012, 04:34 PM
I personally wouldn't but to each their own.

Some may say its safe, others may not.

My favorite analogy is like air travel. Everyone says its the safest way to travel compared to autos due to less crashes. However, all it takes is one crash with you on board and that blows the argument away.

all it takes is one time for your kids to wander out, or someone force their way in, to shoot that safety theory down. If its to go get ice for a moment, i've done it in a hotel with expressed warnings to the kids (younger), then that is one thing, to go out clubbing or drinking, etc., that's something else.

But to each their own. I signed up for 18 yrs, each kid, to sacrifice several of my needs the day they got conceived. ;)

trimix
03-29-2012, 04:53 PM
This is an old thread, but I wonder if people have differing opinions today that the adults can carry the portable Wave phones from the cabin for over a year now and kids can call the other handset?

I really doubt the wave phones will matter to a lot of people. Even though any honest look at crime rates will show that crimes against children are as low as they have been since recordkeeping started, some people just won't accept that their children are safer than they were. Some parents are so fearful that they even move to wherever their precious little snowflake's university is because every possible bad thing will happen if they aren't hovering over their baby. I've seen parents who don't even want to leave their kid alone in the clubs, as if every other CM in the clubs is a pedophile.

I have been comfortable leaving my kids at home alone while I take a walk around the neighborhood since they were 8. I would be just as comfortable leaving my son in a stateroom while I took my wife for a walk - I would just put out the do not disturb sign first.

Then again, I trust my son. I didn't use 'stranger danger' or any similarly stupid approach[1], I just tell them to not talk to people they don't know and to not answer the door without confirming it is a family member. I have left my kids alone and had somebody I know, but they don't know, knock on the door to test my kids - and they consistently passed.

My daughter, on the other hand, was slow to mature. I wouldn't leave her alone until she gained my trust at 13. The only people who can honestly decide if a child is mature enough to be left alone are adults close to the child.

[1] Ask a kid what a stranger is, and they describe a scary looking person. Teach a kid stranger danger, and they can be lured away by a clean-cut stranger with a video game. Teach them 'people we don't know' and they understand the concept much better.

BealsRwe
03-29-2012, 05:23 PM
We have an only, age 7, and we are generally pretty overprotective of her. On the Disney ships, at the age of 8, they can check themselves in and out of the clubs. We are going to test this on our next cruise when our kiddo will be 8. With that being said, she will know the rules, and if she goes to the room, she will have to call us so we know. Last cruise, I left her alone when I ran up on deck for some sodas as a test. 10 minutes, she was great...next time a little longer.

In Luv with Disney
03-29-2012, 05:29 PM
My kids are 10 1/2 and almost 7. I am one of the paranoid parents who would never leave them alone. I don't even give my 10 1/2 year old sign in and out priveleges for the Kids Club. As they get older (teens, maybe) I am sure my opinion will change.

fairytalelover
03-30-2012, 06:44 PM
There is no way I would leave my children alone anywhere. I wouldn't even be able to relax enough to have fun. I would be worried to death about them. Anything can go wrong from accidents to emergencies to bad people. No way!

fairytalelover
03-30-2012, 06:46 PM
I tried to do a search and could not find anything, so I apologize if this has already been asked ad nauseum. DD will be turning 9 on our cruise and we have an inside stateroom booked. Do any of you parents ever put your kids to bed and then go back out to a club or anywhere else for some alone adult time?

DH was thinking we could put DD to bed around 11 and then we could go for a walk on one of the upper decks by ourselves each night. We are night-owls and she is a rooster! I feel weird leaving her alone, but DH thinks she will be fine and she will have a walkie talkie in case she needs to get a hold of us for anything. We are staying on deck 7.

Any one else do this and did you feel comfortable doing it? We would probably only be gone for 30 mins at the most.

Only 30 minutes?? It only takes one second for something bad to happen...it wouldnt be worth it for me...

ranidayz
03-30-2012, 10:14 PM
The legal age to be left alone is actually age 12. This law isn't one that is regularly enforced (people don't report each other, and I know lots of people who had their kids be alone at younger ages), but a friend of ours had to arrange childcare for her 11-year-old son last year while she was at work, or she wouldn't have been allowed to continue with the work experience program she was in, and her aid would have been cut off. (The son's school was a little over a quarter mile from their house.) The childcare program the son was in would actually allow him to stay until he turned 13.

My family always had 12 be the age where a kid could stay home alone anyway, so we weren't surprised. I would say older for being alone overnight, but you're going to be on the same ship and come back to the room, so that doesn't really apply.

If you decide to leave the child in the room, I suggest having someone stay with the kid, or just have the kid do the activities until midnight and then you all go to bed at 12:30 or so.

The legal age to be left alone varies by state - in MD it is 8 years old for a 'short period of time.' *whatever that means.

Just to chime in - I have a child in that age range and I would never leave them alone in a hotel room or the stateroom. They're not equipped to deal with an intruder or an emergency yet. my two cents....

ranidayz
03-30-2012, 10:18 PM
I have always wondered why people put their kids pictures on this forum.:eek:
As much as I love reading trip reports on this forum, I think parents should be really careful posting kids photos. :confused3. JMHO

I totally concur. I teach internet safety to teens and always advise them against putting any information on non-private sites. For myself, I dont' give my identifying information or any information about my family. You can even see in my signature that I don't list my upcoming cruise date since even that can tell a stranger who is lurking when you will be out of your house.

It's also one of the reasons I prefer my meet group to be on FB instead of open forums such as this. You just never know who is looking....whether they are on your cruise or not.:scared1:

ModelMaker
03-31-2012, 12:45 AM
My wife and I were discussing this same topic - we are definitely putting our kids into the clubs too (8 and 11). I know we would not feel comfortable leaving them in the staterooms - just like our home, we would not leave them alone.

disneyholic family
03-31-2012, 02:50 AM
another no vote from me - especially considering she'll be all by herself, without any siblings.
if she were to wake up alone, she might be terrified.

and what if the concordia happens?
sure there's only about a .0000000000001% chance of that happening, but what if it did and you couldn't get back to your room?

but even without disasters, i can remember back to when i was 9 years old - i might have told my parents i was fine on my own - i was a very mature, bright 9 year old, but i was terrified to be in the house alone.
Kids can put up a brave front, but actually not be at all happy about being left alone.
Which i assume you would tell her before you do it.
I mean, you're not just going to let her fall asleep and then leave her on her own, are you?
What if she wakes up and you're not there. Talk about trauma for life.

dooledoo
03-31-2012, 03:36 AM
I find it very reassuring that the vast majority of parents feel the same way about leaving children - it must be instinct!

The OP does say she is uncomfortable with leaving her child alone and I always think you should trust your instincts. Personally, I wouldn't enjoy myself if I wasn't comfortable about leaving a young child alone. The Kids clubs are very good and provide a safe baby sitting environment for youngsters. It also gives you a clear conscience as well and leaves you free to enjoy yourself :):):)

disneyholic family
03-31-2012, 03:56 AM
I find it very reassuring that the vast majority of parents feel the same way about leaving children - it must be instinct!

The OP does say she is uncomfortable with leaving her child alone and I always think you should trust your instincts. Personally, I wouldn't enjoy myself if I wasn't comfortable about leaving a young child alone. The Kids clubs are very good and provide a safe baby sitting environment for youngsters. It also gives you a clear conscience as well and leaves you free to enjoy yourself :):):)

the OP is clearly uncomfortable, or else she wouldn't have posted here.

i had the feeling her husband wants to and she doesn't, so she posted here to show him that he's nuts.

dooledoo
03-31-2012, 05:09 AM
the OP is clearly uncomfortable, or else she wouldn't have posted here.

i had the feeling her husband wants to and she doesn't, so she posted here to show him that he's nuts.

LOL! That sounds like a woman's logic! :lmao:

But yes, she does sound very uneasy about it so sounds more like a conflict of opinions between mother and father!

emma'smom
03-31-2012, 07:36 AM
I think people forget that lots of us used to come home after school for a few hours. I think being a "latchkey" kid taught me independence and responsibility--there's value in being left to think for one's own.

However, I'm not sure I would leave my dd9 asleep in a cabin at night while I went out and partied. I'm sure she would ultimately be fine---but waking up by yourself in a dark room in a strange place--I think she wouldn't be so comfortable with that.

In the daytime though.....when she is awake---no problem (but she'll be in the clubs then).


I don't think 9 is too young to be left alone for a short period of time.

When I was 10 I was a latchkey kid and walked home from school, most days with a friend or two, and was home alone for a few hours depending on my parents' work schedule.

krispykreme97
03-31-2012, 08:12 AM
I would until I read this website given to me by a friend who's niece was the one on the Carnival Liberty who was raped by a crew member while she went to get pizza while her parents sat on the Lido deck.

http://cruiseshiprapes.com/

eeyoremommy
03-31-2012, 10:36 AM
I am the mother of an only, DS 8. On our upcoming cruise, he will not be given permission to check himself in and out of the club. As others have pointed out, crime doesn't stop just because you are on a cruise. I would never leave him alone in the room. He has a good head on his shoulders and tends to make good decisions, but that may not protect him from others. Why encourage unnecessary risk?

On another cruise line last summer, we left him in the kids club while we went ashore because he didn't want to go. It was a destination he had visited multiple times. I felt guilty and nervous about that for different reasons.

You just never know. Safety is the key. I would rather be safe than sorry. Don't leave your 10 and under kid alone in the room. Older kids should also be warned about going to other rooms as well. A girl was raped on the Allure when she went to a "friend's" room and another older male was waiting in the room.

Besides, a lot of people were latchkey kids, but times were different then. It may have been safer then. If it wasn't, it appeared that way because we didn't have all of the social media that we do today and the awareness of the what the sickos in our society do. It is a double-edged sword. We now know to protect our kids better, but the sickos have ways to improve their skills.

disneyholic family
03-31-2012, 10:56 AM
I would until I read this website given to me by a friend who's niece was the one on the Carnival Liberty who was raped by a crew member while she went to get pizza while her parents sat on the Lido deck.

http://cruiseshiprapes.com/


scary link!

there are 3 listed for DCL, in 2005, 2006, 2007.
The 2005 and 2007 incidents involved children.

there's a link for the one in 2005:http://cruiseshiprapes.com/Sexual_Assaults/Sexual_Assaults_On_Children/Child_Rape_Disney_Wonder_October_2_2005.html

If i was at all considering it, i think the above link would make me think twice before leaving my child alone in a stateroom.

alaskanabbott
03-31-2012, 03:21 PM
We encountered this problem on our last cruise. I have 4 teens, a 12 yr old and a 7yr old. We had two rooms, but they were on opposite sides of the ship. My DH and I are usually early to bed people, while our kids love to stay up. At home, with 4 teens, we are never in need of a sitter! But on the cruise the teens were always busy, and DD7 was ready for bed after the show every night. We hated to call it quits at 9pm, with so much to do aboard, but it did force us to get rest. Some nights we would take turns, with DH going for a stroll while I stayed in the room, or visa versa. Sure you're not getting the "romantic" evenings, but we got a lot of that during the day when DD was in the clubs. The next cruise we booked adjoining rooms:thumbsup2 and since grandpa travels with us, we won't have that worry next time.

jennmccoy
03-31-2012, 04:07 PM
Last time we went on the magic DD was 9. Our table mates had a 9 year old also and they went around to different areas on their own. (kids club or to karaoke. ) THis time she will be 11 and traveling with 11 year old BFF. I was going to maybe give her a little more freedom to see a movie ect alone with friend. What do you guys think?

jodifla
03-31-2012, 04:19 PM
Disney obviously thinks that 11 would be an age to be on your own -- that's the age they stop having them sign in and out of the kids' club.

What's the difference between that and leaving your 11 year old to sleep in the cabin?

goofysgirl
03-31-2012, 04:53 PM
Have to admit that I never left any of my girls alone in the cabin sleeping while we went out, but they were able to sign themselves in and out from about the age of 7. These girls never traveled alone and they would call me on the walkie and talk to me all the way from where they were to where we were.
They had their own cabin from the time the oldest was 12 -right next door to ours-but their own still the same.
I do remember being out later one evening and went to the club to find my youngest fast asleep with a few other little ones. We scooped her up and carried her back. I did have fears of leaving them alone because of the unexpected so they were either at the club, lab, or on the walkie with me. Now that they are older I feel I would not have done anything different, except maybe inforced more where to meet if we should become seperated in an emergency.
You know your child best, if you feel comfortable that she will know what to do in an emergency if you are not readily available, then trust her to do just that should the occasion arise. My kids where mature way beyone their years because they were raised by Nana while we both worked, they were street smart and sensible at a young age.
Trust your instincts only you can decide to leave your child or not.

disneymagicgirl
03-31-2012, 07:46 PM
So how do the wave phones work? If dd13 is in the room, can she call us? From another wave phone or the room phone? Can we call her on another wave phone or the room phone?

TDC Nala
03-31-2012, 08:03 PM
This thread is nearly 2 years old, but not that long ago I read a thread on here awhile back that talked about a parent getting a talking to by security for leaving a 5 year old alone in a stateroom. For older kids, the parent will likely have to gauge how mature your child is and whether they can handle being left alone. If you wouldn't leave them home alone, it may be a good idea not to leave them unsupervised on a ship either.

KristiMc
03-31-2012, 08:32 PM
So how do the wave phones work? If dd13 is in the room, can she call us? From another wave phone or the room phone? Can we call her on another wave phone or the room phone?

Yes, you can call any wave phone from the phone in your room or any house phone throughout the ship. You can use the wave phone to text another wave phone or call a stateroom phone.

DVCisME
03-31-2012, 09:07 PM
When I read the title of this thread it reminded me of the parents who were on vacation and their little girl was abducted when they were eating at a restaurant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann

I personally would not leave my child alone.

disneymagicgirl
03-31-2012, 09:31 PM
Yes, you can call any wave phone from the phone in your room or any house phone throughout the ship. You can use the wave phone to text another wave phone or call a stateroom phone.

Neat! Thanks!

vmedisneymom
04-01-2012, 05:16 PM
A previous poster said children must be 11 to check themselves out of kids club but it was 8 yo when we were on the dream in November. I know this because it became an issue because my 8 almost 9 yo wanted to do it, and my husband and I weren't sure about it. The last day we did let them do that and made them go back to the stateroom and call from the wave phone, it was not for long, but he really enjoyed having the responsibility. He is a very mature child for his age, but I don't think that is the only concern to consider. So that being said, we allowed it and we didn't let him stay alone for long. We also put up the do not disturb sign when he was going to do it. I believe that the kid club bracelet is a sort of a tracking device as well, and that made me feel better.

All that being said - if Disney's rule is age 8 there must be something do it - but like anything it is a personal family made decision.

PrincessShmoo
04-01-2012, 05:22 PM
A previous poster said children must be 11 to check themselves out of kids club but it was 8 yo when we were on the dream in November. I know this because it became an issue because my 8 almost 9 yo wanted to do it, and my husband and I weren't sure about it. The last day we did let them do that and made them go back to the stateroom and call from the wave phone, it was not for long, but he really enjoyed having the responsibility. He is a very mature child for his age, but I don't think that is the only concern to consider. So that being said, we allowed it and we didn't let him stay alone for long. We also put up the do not disturb sign when he was going to do it. I believe that the kid club bracelet is a sort of a tracking device as well, and that made me feel better.

All that being said - if Disney's rule is age 8 there must be something do it - but like anything it is a personal family made decision.

I think the bracelet only "tracks" within the club/lab areas. So, if a parent comes looking for a kid, they can locate them.

:cutie:

ColoradoDisneyFreaks
04-01-2012, 07:17 PM
A previous poster said children must be 11 to check themselves out of kids club but it was 8 yo when we were on the dream in November. I know this because it became an issue because my 8 almost 9 yo wanted to do it, and my husband and I weren't sure about it. The last day we did let them do that and made them go back to the stateroom and call from the wave phone, it was not for long, but he really enjoyed having the responsibility. He is a very mature child for his age, but I don't think that is the only concern to consider. So that being said, we allowed it and we didn't let him stay alone for long. We also put up the do not disturb sign when he was going to do it. I believe that the kid club bracelet is a sort of a tracking device as well, and that made me feel better.

All that being said - if Disney's rule is age 8 there must be something do it - but like anything it is a personal family made decision.

Actually, the PP said that at 11, check-in/check-out is no longer available for the kids. The Edge doesn't have check-in/check-out, so they don't need to do it. You are correct in that the club/lab allows it from 8 up, and probably would for 7 year olds if the parents wanted to make a stink. However, their bracelets actually only track if they're IN the club, not where they actually are, and they don't do anything for the rest of the ship.

I allowed my 10 yo DD to have check-in/check-out on our last cruise, and she loved it, she was very responsible and followed the rules wonderfully. She spent time in the cabin and all over the ship with her friends, and I wouldn't have had any problem leaving her sleeping in the cabin to go to a show.