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mrstomrice
08-04-2010, 06:25 AM
I am not sure I will be able to be online 24 hours before our SW return flight and it is early on a Sunday morning, so there are not any family/friend offers to wake up for us either:) Since I have a nearly 4 year old, am I automatically getting sat between the A and B boarding group? Have you ever had a problem at least getting 2 and 2 together?

Also, will a concierge at CR take care of this for us if we have to be in the park? We have the family magic tour around the time of the 24 hour mark and I can't be late. Thanks for your help:)

clanmcculloch
08-04-2010, 08:22 AM
Many posters on this board her personally experienced flights where Family Boarding was skipped or limitted to 2 and under rather than 4 and under. This happens sometimes on flights to destinations that are major family destinations (Orlando being a HUGE one). There are sometimes flights where over half the plan would qualify. If there is Family Boarding, the gate agent may limit it to only the child under 4 and 1 parent meaning the other parent and other child would board at their appointed boarding pass position. It's also possible that you'll all get to board with Family Boarding. There are no guarantees.

IMO this is the exact type of situation where paying for EBCI makes sense. That $40 ($10 pp for your return flight) will buy you a lot of peace of mind.

disneyfaninaz
08-04-2010, 09:27 AM
Concierge desks at the resorts and Guest Services at the parks can check you in for your flight, or you can use a web enabled cell phone. You can print your boarding passes at the airport. Personally, as mentioned above, I would go ahead and get the EBCI for your return flight so you don't even have to worry about it.

tjmw2727
08-04-2010, 09:38 AM
I am not sure I will be able to be online 24 hours before our SW return flight and it is early on a Sunday morning, so there are not any family/friend offers to wake up for us either:) Since I have a nearly 4 year old, am I automatically getting sat between the A and B boarding group? Have you ever had a problem at least getting 2 and 2 together?

Also, will a concierge at CR take care of this for us if we have to be in the park? We have the family magic tour around the time of the 24 hour mark and I can't be late. Thanks for your help:)

Most of the time family boarding happens between A and B groups but I have seen it suspended a few times. Due to the number of families on the Orlando flights this is a possiblity IMHO folks should be prepared for.

The concierge at all the WDW resorts as well as guest relations will check you in but you must be present and have ID.

If you or a family member can't be at a computer, use a web enabled cellphone, or at guest relations at T24 and sitting together is important I would suggest purchasing the early bird check in. At least for the 4yo and one parent - an extra $20.00 so the child can be sure to sit with at least one parent.

ccgirl
08-04-2010, 09:45 AM
As a PP stated, the concierge at the hotel will check you in but it sounds like you will be in the parks at your 24 hour mark. If that's the case; guest services can check you in. I have had them do that in the past. But, now I just use my blackberry and check in online. If you have a web enabled phone you can check in that way. I have never paid for the EBCI and have never had a problem finding at least 2 seats together even with C boarding passes.

Have fun!

r&kmommy
08-04-2010, 12:35 PM
Our last flight to MCO there was family boarding for 1 parent and 1 kid (to ensure seats together)... I went ahead, and my dh stayed behind w/ the 2 kids to let them burn off some more energy (though we all could have gone on together) I installed dd's car seat, and put a bag on the 2 seats in front of where I was to save for dh and my ds. No problems.

mrstomrice
08-04-2010, 02:08 PM
Thanks for all of your help and suggestions!

kaytieeldr
08-04-2010, 10:15 PM
I installed dd's car seat, and put a bag on the 2 seats in front of where I was to save for dh and my ds. No problems.
It should be noted though - and this not directed at or a criticism of the quoted poster but merely information for people reading this thread :teeth: - that while Southwest doesn't prohibit saving seats, they also don't support it. If someone else had come along before the rest of her party boarded and wanted those seats, they could have sat there.

Again, NOT directed at the OP, and not intended to incur wrath or start an argument. Just information.

r&kmommy
08-04-2010, 10:26 PM
It should be noted though - and this not directed at or a criticism of the quoted poster but merely information for people reading this thread :teeth: - that while Southwest doesn't prohibit saving seats, they also don't support it. If someone else had come along before the rest of her party boarded and wanted those seats, they could have sat there.

Again, NOT directed at the OP, and not intended to incur wrath or start an argument. Just information.

Duly noted :) I just figured since my dh *could* have come on w/ both kids, saving their seat was the same thing... :goodvibes

prncess674
08-04-2010, 10:53 PM
Duly noted :) I just figured since my dh *could* have come on w/ both kids, saving their seat was the same thing... :goodvibesJust because he could have is NOT the same thing. If you had saved the last aisle seat I would have placed your bag in the aisle and would have no qualms about doing so. Somewhat related I have been in F class where a colleague noticed that a coach passenger placed a bag in the F overhead bins. I boarded and there was no room left. My colleague pointed out the offending bag. I then removed it, placed it in the aisle and put my bag in it's proper place and then had the FA ask the F passengers if they owned the bag. The bag was then summarily checked.

Not trying to start a debate but having a child does not make you a special snowflake. If you absolutely require special seating for your family then pay for it or fly private jet, the rest of the world doesn't care about you and your little snowflakes. I may be flying solo but that shouldn't mean I am destined to middle seats in the last row of coach simply because you decided to procreate.

seashoreCM
08-05-2010, 07:46 AM
If they allow one parent and one kid, then what prevents two parents and three kids from splitting up as one parent and one kid with at least one party of strangers in between? (The last kid, if an age to be kidnappable or molestable, simply stands next to his sibling.)

You may not save an aisle seat (or any other seat) but you can certainly occupy the last aisle seat with the kid at the window.

Family boarding is to reduce the begging and beseeching of others to switch seats, which actions can be time consuming.

crashbb
08-05-2010, 07:52 AM
If they allow one parent and one kid, then what prevents two parents and three kids from splitting up as one parent and one kid with at least one party of strangers in between? (The last kid, if an age to be kidnappable or molestable, simply stands next to his sibling.)

You may not save an aisle seat (or any other seat) but you can certainly occupy the last aisle seat with the kid at the window.

Family boarding is to reduce the begging and beseeching of others to switch seats, which actions can be time consuming.

Why in the world would they do that? If two children were the appropriate age for family boarding, the whole family can board together. It is not as if they say - "choose your favourite young child and board with them - leave the other child behind". The issue is when there are many family members and only ONE child that is young enough for family boarding.

prncess674
08-05-2010, 08:01 AM
If they allow one parent and one kid, then what prevents two parents and three kids from splitting up as one parent and one kid with at least one party of strangers in between? (The last kid, if an age to be kidnappable or molestable, simply stands next to his sibling.)

You may not save an aisle seat (or any other seat) but you can certainly occupy the last aisle seat with the kid at the window.

Family boarding is to reduce the begging and beseeching of others to switch seats, which actions can be time consuming.
Saving seats is unacceptable. If SWA allowed seat saving then one person in a party of 6 could buy EBCI and then litter their belongings over 5 seats. If a child is young enough to board between A & B and it is important for you to sit together then you need to board at that time and put a butt in the seat not a magazine.

crashbb
08-05-2010, 08:12 AM
Saving seats is unacceptable. If SWA allowed seat saving then one person in a party of 6 could buy EBCI and then litter their belongings over 5 seats. If a child is young enough to board between A & B and it is important for you to sit together then you need to board at that time and put a butt in the seat not a magazine.

While I absolutely agree with you (saving seats is unacceptable), SWA doesn't actually have a policy forbidding seat saving. The party line is something like "saving seats is fine unless it impedes with the flight". Therefore, there is nothing stopping a party of 6 paying for one EBCI and saving seats. On the other hand, there is also nothing stopping someone not from that group taking one of the "saved" seats.

PlutoPony
08-05-2010, 08:13 AM
Saving seats is unacceptable. If SWA allowed seat saving then one person in a party of 6 could buy EBCI and then litter their belongings over 5 seats. If a child is young enough to board between A & B and it is important for you to sit together then you need to board at that time and put a butt in the seat not a magazine.

SW does not disallow seat saving and what you have described above has been observed occasionally on SW flights and described on FT threads. We can argue whether it's ethical/right/fair but right now it's rare to have a SW FA take a firm stance on saving of seats.

prncess674
08-05-2010, 08:19 AM
SW does not disallow seat saving and what you have described above has been observed occasionally on SW flights and described on FT threads. We can argue whether it's ethical/right/fair but right now it's rare to have a SW FA take a firm stance on saving of seats.I am not here to argue the ethics of it. If there isn't a person in a seat and I have boarded in my appropriate zone/group I will sit my butt in any seat not already occupied by a warm body. A magazine does not = warm body. No FA is going to toss me out of seat because someone threw a magazine on a seat for someone who is boarding after me.

lyonking3
08-05-2010, 08:25 AM
Family boarding is after "A" group, but before "B" Group.

ccgirl
08-05-2010, 08:43 AM
I was on a full flight from PVD to MCO. They decreased the age of family boarding to those age 2 and under. They did let the entire "immediate" family board (parents/siblings). No uncles, grandparents etc. On board, a lot of people were placing the bags to save seats for those extended family. The flight attendants halted boarding and made an announcement that SW has an open seating policy and people could sit anywhere there was not a person and told everyone to remove their bags.

I think people get far too concerned with seating on SW. Up until this point I have exclusively flown with then. I have never had a problem finding two seats together. I usually take one child and my DH the other. Even when we were not eligible for family boarding and had a "C" boarding pass we still found seats together. I can see if one parent is flying alone with 3 children. In that case; I would pay for EBCI to increase the chance of sitting together. Note there is still no guarantee you will all sit together. It depends on how many people purchased EBCI, how many preboardings, and business class there are and where they decided to sit. But....my DH, myself and two children do not need to sit together. One parent is more than capable of taking care of one child. One one of our flights; I sat with my 2 children and my DH gladly took a seat much further back. No biggie...the flight is 3 hours and we were going to be spending a week together at Disney.

One note is that if you are flying with a carseat that carseat needs to be placed on a window seat. I did not know that when I first started travelling with a carseat - which is why I mention it.

Have fun! I absolutely love that airline.

r&kmommy
08-05-2010, 08:52 AM
I am not here to argue the ethics of it. If there isn't a person in a seat and I have boarded in my appropriate zone/group I will sit my butt in any seat not already occupied by a warm body. A magazine does not = warm body. No FA is going to toss me out of seat because someone threw a magazine on a seat for someone who is boarding after me.

How do you know if you are removing a magazine/bag of someone who has placed it there to hold their seat while they use the restroom or go put their carry on in an overhead bin? Very ASSumptive of you.

prncess674
08-05-2010, 09:03 AM
How do you know if you are removing a magazine/bag of someone who has placed it there to hold their seat while they use the restroom or go put their carry on in an overhead bin? Very ASSumptive of you.
Do you use that potty mouth in front of your kids? :confused: Seriously, you are making some major ASSumptions too. I paid for a seat and have boarded appropriately, I am allowed to choose any open seat. If you have a problem with the SWA seating policy, I suggest you choose an airline that has assigned seating. SWA has an open seating policy. I am perfectly within the rules to select any open seat. Seat saving is pretty obvious, there is usually one adult who is sitting in the middle surrounded by a bunch of littered seats. They then quickly bounce up and say they are saving that seat for Aunt Milly who didn't bother to check in at the 24 hour mark. How is Aunt Milly's lack of planning my problem?

r&kmommy
08-05-2010, 09:12 AM
Do you use that potty mouth in front of your kids? :confused: Seriously, you are making some major ASSumptions too. I paid for a seat and have boarded appropriately, I am allowed to choose any open seat. If you have a problem with the SWA seating policy, I suggest you choose an airline that has assigned seating. SWA has an open seating policy. I am perfectly within the rules to select any open seat. Seat saving is pretty obvious, there is usually one adult who is sitting the middle surrounded by a bunch of littered seats. They then quickly bounce up and say they are saving that seat for Aunt Milly who didn't bother to check in at the 24 hour mark. How is Aunt Milly's lack of planning my problem?

I do not have a potty mouth, but whatever.

We both want the best seats we can get. So we each need to do what we need to do to get them. I check in ASAP and get first boarding group, and I will put my bags down to save for dh/ds. If you ask me if someone is sitting there I'll say I'm saving but (and I'm not making this up -) I will ask if you want to sit there. Some people have a "thing" about where they want to sit on a plane for whatever reason. I have never been asked by anyone to move my bags, nor has the flight attendant ever asked me to move my bags. I one time was chit chatting with a FA about dd's car seat and she SAW me put my bags on the 2 seats behind me and didn't say anything.

So what do you do if someone comes back from using the bathroom to see you've removed their bag, placed it in the aisle, and are now sitting in their seat? What do you say to them? I'm curious. Or is going to the bathroom considered abandonment of seat?

crashbb
08-05-2010, 09:37 AM
So what do you do if someone comes back from using the bathroom to see you've removed their bag, placed it in the aisle, and are now sitting in their seat? What do you say to them? I'm curious. Or is going to the bathroom considered abandonment of seat?

I've never in my life seen someone use the bathroom on the airplane during the boarding process. Trying to get back up the aisle to the bathroom (if it is in the front of the plane) or back from the bathroom (if it is in the back of the plane) would cause chaos. People use the bathroom before getting on the plane or after boarding is complete (even that is rare). That is just a silly argument.

And your point about taking someone's seat while they are stowing carry on bags? Since they should be stowing the bag immediately above their seat, I would think it would be very obvious that it was their seat and that they weren't just saving seats. Again, a silly argument.

r&kmommy
08-05-2010, 09:42 AM
I've never in my life seen someone use the bathroom on the airplane during the boarding process. Trying to get back up the aisle to the bathroom (if it is in the front of the plane) or back from the bathroom (if it is in the back of the plane) would cause chaos. People use the bathroom before getting on the plane or after boarding is complete (even that is rare). That is just a silly argument.

And your point about taking someone's seat while they are stowing carry on bags? Since they should be stowing the bag immediately above their seat, I would think it would be very obvious that it was their seat and that they weren't just saving seats. Again, a silly argument.

My dad acutally used the bathroom as soon as he got on the plane. He had a big OJ and a cup of coffee and really had to go... he was nervous about missing his group boarding call so he didn't leave the gate area. But he's a nervous flyer anyway. LOL!

Anyway, I wasn't looking for a fight when I posted what I did. prncess674 threw some insults at me and I was just refuting them. She was way out of line with some of what she said and I don't allow people to just talk trash about me without fighting back.

Although, I don't fight back infinitely, and I think I'm walking away from this thread now so I don't get into trouble. :headache:

Sorry to the OP for the thread going off track :wizard:

andymattmom
08-05-2010, 09:44 AM
WOW! I can see both of the posters view.

1. Yes, when you fly SW you know you don't have a seat.
2. Key it to pay the $10 for early check-in OR be on-line at the 24 hour mark.
3. It sounds like SW is getting smart about the pre-boards (this summer we flew Delta and there was NO PRE-BOARD). It is amazing how many people when there is pre-board do it (with kids 5 and up....even 4 is pushing it!).

When you pre-pay you will probably have a better seat, but that pre-board pass with the ONE NUMBER on it entitles you to ONE SEAT. It does NOT entitle you to save for your whole family. Yes, SW might not want confrontations and may not enforce the no saving seat policy if there is one. If I chose to fly SW (which I have NO PLANS TO DO) and we didn't do early check-in (which I would do) and I saw bags and magazines on seats I would ask person by those seats (who is OBVIOUSLY the one saving) if someone was seated there (THUS ELIMINATING THE BATHROOM debate..by the way who leaves the terminal and runs to the bathroom on the plane...GROSS). If the said it was being saved I would sit there since my number was obviously BEFORE the saved person's. It is nice to say you would offer the seat if someone wanted it...but not many people would.

It amazes me when mom,dad, grandma and grandpa, aunt, uncle and friends ALL try to pre-board. It is nice to see SW enforcing the ONE ADULT RULE. If there is one child and 2 parents then purchase the early check-in or be on-line at 24 hour mark.

No airline guarantees you will get the seat you want or even think your boarding pass says. I pre-pay for my seats on airlines and will not move out of my seat I chose to pay for (on Airtran, etc.). I will sit in a "saved" seat on SW but I will not fly them because I don't like the boarding and no seat assignments. Too many stressed, tired people flying and thinking they don't have to abide by common courtesy and rules. We all know saving airline seats on SW is like saving spots in line, for parades, etc. It will be done and while it might not be written in black and white it is not right to do. :confused3:confused3:confused3:confused3:confused3

r&kmommy
08-05-2010, 09:55 AM
We all know saving airline seats on SW is like saving spots in line, for parades, etc. It will be done and while it might not be written in black and white it is not right to do. :confused3:confused3:confused3:confused3:confused3

I'm back... lol!! But not going to debate the seat saving on the plane. You think it's wrong to save a spot for shows and parades? (I'm not talking about shows where everyone has to go in the row and move all the way over lol) So for me to plop down on the curb with my backpack next to me and dd in her stroller next to that, saving 2 more bum spots for my dh/ds, is wrong? I have to wholeheartedly 110% disagree with that statement!

I WILL move my bag and allow someone to sit on a seat on a plane I have saved for my dh/ds, but if someone were to ask me to move my bag to sit where I have staked out for the parade or a show they'd be told to take a hike. If you want a good seat for a parade/fireworks, get there early. I did, by at least an hour! :wizard:

crashbb
08-05-2010, 10:07 AM
I'm back... lol!! But not going to debate the seat saving on the plane. You think it's wrong to save a spot for shows and parades? (I'm not talking about shows where everyone has to go in the row and move all the way over lol) So for me to plop down on the curb with my backpack next to me and dd in her stroller next to that, saving 2 more bum spots for my dh/ds, is wrong? I have to wholeheartedly 110% disagree with that statement!

I WILL move my bag and allow someone to sit on a seat on a plane I have saved for my dh/ds, but if someone were to ask me to move my bag to sit where I have staked out for the parade or a show they'd be told to take a hike. If you want a good seat for a parade/fireworks, get there early. I did, by at least an hour! :wizard:

Yes YOU got there early. Your DH/DS did not. If they want a good seat for a parade/fireworks, they should get there early. The people wanting those seats did.

See - it works both ways.

r&kmommy
08-05-2010, 10:08 AM
Yes YOU got there early. Your DH/DS did not. If they want a good seat for a parade/fireworks, they should get there early. The people wanting those seats did.

See - it works both ways.

well we will have to agree to disagree... polls on the theme park board always support courteous seat saving at fireworks and parades.

1tufgt
08-05-2010, 10:41 AM
I'm back... lol!! But not going to debate the seat saving on the plane. You think it's wrong to save a spot for shows and parades? (I'm not talking about shows where everyone has to go in the row and move all the way over lol) So for me to plop down on the curb with my backpack next to me and dd in her stroller next to that, saving 2 more bum spots for my dh/ds, is wrong? I have to wholeheartedly 110% disagree with that statement!

I WILL move my bag and allow someone to sit on a seat on a plane I have saved for my dh/ds, but if someone were to ask me to move my bag to sit where I have staked out for the parade or a show they'd be told to take a hike. If you want a good seat for a parade/fireworks, get there early. I did, by at least an hour! :wizard:

Yes YOU got there early. Your DH/DS did not. If they want a good seat for a parade/fireworks, they should get there early. The people wanting those seats did.

See - it works both ways.
This is a interesting thread.

Just passing through.

ccgirl
08-05-2010, 10:45 AM
Again, OP... if you are looking to save some $$$ check in as close to 24 hr in advance as you can. Those people paying EBCI are not guaranteed an "A" boarding spot. As a matter of fact; I heard of someone paying EBCI and getting a B. They were boarded after the family board. The seats are configured with 2 aisles of 3 across. As I mentined, car seat has to go in window. You are allowed one carry on plus one personal item. The carry on should go in the overhead bin above you. However, SW also allows 2 checked bags for free so I just prefer to keep a backpack in the seat in front of me. They still serve soft drinks and snacks. However, the last flight I was on was very turbulent and they didn't serve until well in to the flight. I was so glad I had brought snacks with me and purchases drinks once we got thru the security checkpoint. On the way home guest services can check you in or you can use a web enabled phone. You can also purchase EBCI for only the return flight. Have fun...enjoy your flight and the trip.

In the end; if people would just follow the rules, be courteous and treat others as they would want to be treated we would all get along much better.

andymattmom
08-05-2010, 10:47 AM
I'm back... lol!! But not going to debate the seat saving on the plane. You think it's wrong to save a spot for shows and parades? (I'm not talking about shows where everyone has to go in the row and move all the way over lol) So for me to plop down on the curb with my backpack next to me and dd in her stroller next to that, saving 2 more bum spots for my dh/ds, is wrong? I have to wholeheartedly 110% disagree with that statement!

I WILL move my bag and allow someone to sit on a seat on a plane I have saved for my dh/ds, but if someone were to ask me to move my bag to sit where I have staked out for the parade or a show they'd be told to take a hike. If you want a good seat for a parade/fireworks, get there early. I did, by at least an hour! :wizard:


YOU GOT THERE EARLY NOT THE REST OF YOUR PARTY FOR THE PARADE! What are you teaching your son that he is SPECIAL and doesn't have to wait for a parade LIKE EVERYONE ELSE...he can ride on rides while all the other kids sit and wait patiently. THEN he can show up right before parade starts and sit in front because MOMMY saved him and dad a seat. WRONG WRONG WRONG and terrible way to show a child what is right...waiting and not expecting everyone to cater to him/her.

My family arrives early for parades, shows, etc. We don't save seats. My children have waited patiently (yes for over and hour) since they were 4 and 5. I will say something to the person who tries to stand in front of me and block our view of the fireworks (comes up after they started and we had been sitting for over an hour...I DON'T CARE THAT AT THE TIME MY BABIES WERE 13 AND 12!!!!). Fact was we had waited and he and his family had not! I will not wait for 1.5 hours for Fantasmic at Disney World...and be asked to SCOOT OVER when I am sitting where I want to sit and have been waiting and will not move for someone coming 10 minutes before it starts. We chose those seats and waited patiently. WE DID NOT SAVE SEATS EITHER! Now the shows like BUGS LIFE, etc. we move down like we are supposed to since those are a ride.

Saving seats and spots for parades is like cutting in line...saving someones place while they do something else is not right. Guess we all have different views on manners. Guess we will be able to tell whose kids we raised to wait patiently and not expect people to move for them cause they are 'special'...said in tone of CHURCH LADY FROM SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE...

Lewisc
08-05-2010, 11:48 AM
The fact that a word is picked up by the word filter, letters are replaced by ***, means DIS has an issue with the word being used.

The fact that the term is commonly used by you is irrelevent. DIS thinks the term is vulgar. I guess potty mouth is another term for the same thing.

SW has open setting. Many people consider a seat open if a passenger isn't occuping the seat. Saving the seat next you, particularly a middle seat isn't an issue. Many people think saving an extra row is rude, and have no problem moving stuff.

People who who hope to save extra seats should go to the back of the plane.

kaytieeldr
08-05-2010, 12:25 PM
In the end; if people would just follow the rules, be courteous and treat others as they would want to be treated we would all get along much better. LIFE would work better, if only we'd all behave this way - every day!!!! :thumbsup2