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eeyorefreak25
08-21-2002, 07:37 PM
Is it true that the beer from Japan was made at an Aneheuser Busch factories. If so how can they say that it is a true Japanese beer if it was made in America but just have a Japanese logo on the front. I also heard that this beer tasted just like Bud Light. So are we being decieved by this?
Eeyore2U
08-21-2002, 07:47 PM
I'm not sure about the Kirin. I know that if you Lowenbrau in the states it's made by Miller. Some agreement between the breweries.
Regardless, I didn't think it tasted like Bud Light when I had it last Feb.
jcrawford
08-21-2002, 08:18 PM
Not sure about that but it didn't taste like Bud Light to me..that stuff is swill! The Kirin was good.
Uncleromulus
08-22-2002, 05:28 AM
If you are speaking about Kirin--unless something has changed, I believe it is brewed in Japan.
And jcrawford/eeyore2U are right--no comparison between Kirin and Bud Lite.
POOH&PIGLET
08-22-2002, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by eeyorefreak25
Is it true that the beer from Japan was made at an Aneheuser Busch factories. If so how can they say that it is a true Japanese beer if it was made in America but just have a Japanese logo on the front. I also heard that this beer tasted just like Bud Light. So are we being decieved by this?
I don't know where the Kirin beer is brewed but I wouldn't be surprised if it was somewhere outside of Japan. When I visited the Guinness brewery in Dublin, they mentioned that they also produce Guinness outside of Ireland.
Andy123
08-22-2002, 01:24 PM
Many of the overseas brewers (Guiness, Becks, etc) have contracts with US Brewers to brew their beer here in the states... Some of the alcohol contents/pasturizations/ etc are different in the US than overseas... So, just because you're drinking a Guiness or a Bass doesn't mean it was brewed in that country...
DVCajun
08-22-2002, 01:44 PM
Sometimes people that aren't experienced with different types of beers make the assumption that if it's a light beer it tastes like Bud Light. My DH is one of those-- says Kirin tastes like Bud Light. It does NOT. Kirin, incidentally, is an authentic Japanese beer. It's very popular and served at just about any Japanese restaurant you try.
FunkyLamb
08-22-2002, 03:56 PM
Kirin is bottled is Canada.
A lot of imported beers are bottled in Canada so that they are still technically 'imported' but are not made and bottled in the actual country of origin.
Someone mentioned Guinness earlier. Guinness is partially brewed and bottled in Canada also. The 'Pub Draught' in the cans and bottles is made in Ireland.
Bass is still made in Burton-on-Trent, England.
amw5g
08-22-2002, 04:01 PM
Next thing you know, we'll be talking about champagnes from California.....blasphemy! ;)
-Andrew
Goofy Fan
08-22-2002, 05:57 PM
http://www.kirin.com
beachbunny
08-22-2002, 06:06 PM
I've had Kirin both here in the U.S. and in Japan. They're two different beers. For one thingk, the one in Japan has a higher alcohol content.
kpatches
08-22-2002, 06:06 PM
What is the difference in Guinness Draught and Guinness Stout????
llfowl
08-22-2002, 07:11 PM
Anheuser-Busch does brew Kirin. Anheuser-Busch has an equity partnership with Kirin. Kirin is brewed in Los Angeles. Kirin is not Bud Light or Budweiser. Kirin has it own separate recipe and has been brewed that way since 1888. Budweiser has been brewed since 1876. The only thing that Budweiser and Kirin have in common is that they are both lager beers.
Please feel free to call Anheuser-Busch at 1-800-DIAL-BUD.
Or visit them at Anheuser-Busch, Inc. (http://www.anheuser-busch.com) .
Lori
MadMadamMim
08-22-2002, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by kpatches
What is the difference in Guinness Draught and Guinness Stout????
From the Guinness FAQ (http://www.ivo.se/guinness/faq.html)
Draught Guinness (Ireland, NA), is smooth full-bodied and creamy. Despite its body, it is a rather mild beer (OG 1039, 3.4% abw, 4.2% abv). This beer is pasteurized. There are many local variations of this product. The canned Pub Draught Guinness using the draught-flow system is a packaged version of this beer.
Guinness Extra Stout/Guinness Original (bottled, available widely) is stronger with even more stout bite. MJ reports this to be 4.8% abw, 6.0% abv, but one poster says that in advertising from Guinness Imports, the strength is listed as 5.6%. This product is licensed for production widely around the world.
Or, in simpler terms, as my DH put it - the Draught a cheap imitation of Guinness out of the tap. (he's the big Guinness fan, not me) :)
POOH&PIGLET
08-23-2002, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by kpatches
What is the difference in Guinness Draught and Guinness Stout????
One addition to MadMadamMim's excellent response . . .
bottled Guinness tastes awful. :earseek:
kpatches
08-23-2002, 08:45 AM
Thanks to MADMADAMMIM and POOH&PIGLET for their replys!!!!!! Now which one would you recommend if the Guinness on tap is not available???? Draught or Stout in can or bottle?????? Just discovered Guinness recently!!!!!!!! My husband thinks I am crazy since I never drank beer. I am 55 years old and was having a problem drinking wine. I think I might have some kind of allergic reaction to it. Decided to try beer and Guinness is my favorite!!!!!!!
kpatches
08-23-2002, 09:14 AM
Forgot to ask in my previous reply. Where do they have Guinness on tap in Disneyworld?????? I know they have it at Rose and Crown but are there any lounges at the resorts that have it on tap???????????
POOH&PIGLET
08-23-2002, 09:53 AM
kpatches,
Try the Pub-Draught cans. Avoid the bottles, they don't taste like what you get in a bar. You can also get Murphy's and Beamish in the cans.
I know they have it at Rose and Crown but are there any lounges at the resorts that have it on tap? Good question, why not post a new thread.
Andy123
08-23-2002, 11:16 AM
The only place I can really think of that has guiness on tap is at Rose & Crown... not sure about many restaurants since I usually get wine... The Guiness Drought in the can with the nitrous cartridge is wonderful... they also recently began offering it in a pseudo-bottle... it's a large bottle (not sure it's glass), but it too has the Nitrous cartridge in it... very few places carry the Guiness Stout glass bottles... it does have a very different taste than the Guiness Drought. I think the Crew's Cup lounge at the Yacht Club has guiness on tap (I think...)..
PennConn
08-23-2002, 11:57 AM
A pint of Bass Ale at Rose & Crown is my favorite, especially with Fish and Chips!
llfowl
08-23-2002, 12:10 PM
I always get a half pint of Bass Ale! (I don't drink that much.) With the Fish n Chips.
Lori
:earsboy: :earsgirl:
MadMadamMim
08-23-2002, 02:03 PM
You could always go for the 'classic black & tan' at Rose & Crown - half Guinness and Half Bass :)
PennConn
08-23-2002, 02:16 PM
Thanks MadMadamMim ... I will definitely ask for a "Black and Tan" next month when I am there at R & C !
DVCajun
08-23-2002, 02:50 PM
Black and Tan is my favorite beer! ;)
Actually, isn't there actually a bottled beer that is called "Black and Tan?" I don't mean that!! I mean the real deal.
Ah. I'm just gonna sit here and pretend I'm sitting on the patio at the Rose and Crown.....
MadMadamMim
08-23-2002, 06:45 PM
Yes, there are several breweries that brew a bottled 'black & tan' but apparently they aren't like the 'original'
One thing about Guinness in bottles. There are two "kinds." Guinness extra stout is what they've had in bottles most of my life, and as someone explained earlier it tastes a bit "stronger" than the guiness you may be used to on tap. The Guiness Drought that comes in a can has a little thing-a-ma-bob in it that releases a little gas when you open it to give it a creamy, smooth head. In the past year or so, Guinness has produced a second kind of bottle - Guinness Draught in a bottle. This also has a thingy-ma-bob, and they tried to make it so you could drink it straight from the bottle (they are trying to appeal to a "younger" demographic, I think). This is really easy to drink, and the taste is OK, but I think the can is probably better if you like the smoother taste of Guinness Draught over extra stout and can't get it on tap. The Guinness Draught bottles are really easy to drink though (actually, I've had a running debate in my own mind about bottles vs. cans for Young's Chocolate Stout - the can has a smoother, creamier head on it, but the bottle tastes fresher and less "tin-ny." I do think that I like the Guinness Draught cans better than bottles, but I will continue to taste test to make sure.)
As for Kirin. I agree that it "isn't" budweiser or bud light. I will say though, that I've spent some quality time reading the label on a bottle of kirin ichiban more than once in matsu-noma, and I'm really quite sure that it does say it is brewed in bottled by anhauser-bush in los angeles, using the kirin recipe and under the supervision of Kirin brew masters. That doesn't make it bud, though, that's for sure. For that matter, "Foster's" may be Austrailian for beer but, at least here in Michigan, it is brewed in Canada. But then, my cousin who lives in Kentucky makes Toyotas, too.
Actually, I checked the Kirin web site to double check that I wasn't having a foggy memory and I saw:
"In 1997, Kirin joined forces with Anheuser-Busch in North America to provide the freshest Kirin beer possible to American beer lovers. At that time, Kirin invested $8 million in the AB brewery in the Los Angeles area. In that plant, Kirin has been working closely with its partners to ensure freshness and quality, synonomous with the Kirin family name.
A Kirin brewmaster controls all production, maintaining the integrity of Kirin's traditional brewing process. It starts with proprietary ingredients, including North American barley, Kirin's own special yeast, and Hallertau and Saaz hops imported from Germany and the Czech Republic. It continues with lower-temperature fermentation and extended cellar aging. Then it's delivered in a timely manner, thanks to the powerful Anheuser-Busch distribution network. And it culminates in the unique taste, high quality, and unparalleled freshness you'll experience with every Kirin you drink. "
So, there you have it.
DR
DVCajun
08-23-2002, 08:47 PM
Yeah, I read that too actually. It still doesn't taste like Bud Light. ;)
llfowl
08-23-2002, 10:14 PM
Thanks for the info DR! I appreciate the clarification.
Lori :)
figmentvi
08-24-2002, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by PennConn
A pint of Bass Ale at Rose & Crown is my favorite, especially with Fish and Chips!
Someone after my own heart !!! Fish and Chips and Bass Ale....now that's gourmet to me :D :D
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