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goofydad99
06-10-2010, 04:14 PM
What would you do?

FindTheMickeys
06-10-2010, 04:32 PM
Seeing as how I only stay at SSR, I wouldn't see them fishing so I'll pretend to ignore them:lmao:

Maistre Gracey
06-10-2010, 04:54 PM
Well I don't fish, so I certainly wouldn't join him.
Is there a rule against fishing at OKW? Is he releasing them?

MG

DenLo
06-10-2010, 05:09 PM
Well I have to agree with Maistre Gracey that I sure wouldn't join him. But after looking the MS and Disney website, I was surprised to see that there is fishing allowed at various marinas, including OKW. But it does sound like it's an organized excursion with a charge.

As to whether or not to report him, it's along that same category when you see someone going into the lake right next to the sign that says no swimming or wading for health reasons. I kind of feel like that isn't my responsibility. So I guess the answer is no, I won't be reporting the fisherman.

whamma
06-10-2010, 05:18 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't think anything of it--and didn't! Last July we were at SSR and every evening a gentleman fished off the bridge/walkway connecting The Paddock and The Springs area. My kids loved talking to him every night. In fact one day we even ran into him at MK! He says that he comes to WDW for 2 weeks every year to fish. It wasn't like he was there all day. I certainly don't think he was hurting anything. I didn't pay attention if he was releasing--but I would guess so. Maybe he's the guy who is fishing behind building 62 at OKW. Go talk to him. He's a nice guy!:thumbsup2

Maistre Gracey
06-10-2010, 05:22 PM
I went with ignore him. Unlike a dog in the room, his fishing has no impact on me what so ever.

MG

vicki_c
06-10-2010, 06:54 PM
I know there is pole fishing available at WDW, so I looked it up but it doesn't mention OKW as one of the places. I probably wouldn't think it was odd though since I know it's allowed in some places (well unless he was wearing his hip waders and fly casting)!

From allears:

Dockside Fishing

Riverside at Port Orleans
Fishing Hole at Ol' Man Island

Catch-and-release cane pole fishing is also availabe without advance reservations at the following locations:

--Port Orleans Riverside Ol' Man Island at the Fishin' Hole
--Fort Wilderness Resort & Campgrounds

Hours are 7 a.m. - 3 p.m. and vary seasonally. The fishing areas are stocked with catfish, bass, and blue gill, and a catch is almost certain.

Cost -- Cane Pole & Worms - $4/hour OR Family Fishing - $12.50/hour (up to 6 people)

saintstickets
06-10-2010, 07:49 PM
What would you do?

I just stayed in building 62 at the end of May, 2010. I might ignore him but I might also warn him about the snakes! ;)
(http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2481750)

dbs1228
06-10-2010, 08:08 PM
I stayed in building 46 OKW and saw 3 men fishing one evening, I thought nothing of it. This was 3 weeks ago. They were quite just casting away and then went on there way.

Brian Noble
06-10-2010, 08:31 PM
My understanding is that you can fish (catch & release) from the banks. But, as near as I can tell, you can't fish on open water without being on one of the guided trips. Some of the "real fishermen" report fishing off the banks of Bay Lake frequently, but not being allowed to with rental pontoons.

I could be wrong, though.

Sammie
06-10-2010, 08:48 PM
You most certainly can fish. It is catch and release from the banks.

dianeschlicht
06-11-2010, 08:47 AM
Ignore it. I've often seen people fishing at OKW. Usually it's behind buildings 45 and 46 though.

mickey&minniealways
06-11-2010, 10:25 AM
If you are concerned, and you must be if you asked the question, then go ahead and call the hospitality house. Ask if it is allowed. Tell them you are just curious. Then depending on what you find out you can decide for yourself weather or not you want to turn him in. If it was me I would ask out of curiosity but if he is not bothering anyone I probably would let him be. My guess is though if he is there alot they probably already know about him.

palhockeymomof2
06-11-2010, 10:32 AM
I would ignore them...my son would join them:goodvibes.....but when we stayed at VWL in April he was fishing(catch & release) from the shore there...a cm can over and told us it wasn't allowed that they only fishing allowed was if you went on one of disney's fishing boats...not sure if the cm was correct or not since after he told us that we never tried to fish again or questioned what he said........based on some info in this thread I'd probably some additional questions next time we are at wdw

spiceycat
06-11-2010, 01:42 PM
remember back if you stayed at FW or the old treehouses or villas you could fish and take it back with you and cook it.

since OKW, disney did away with that policy.

if someone is just fishing - don't see the harm. really don't think it is against the rules. if he is not interfering with anyone.

at FW they can fish all over the campground.

besides doesn't the OKW boat go by that area. if the cm's on the boat are going by him and ignore him - definitely don't think anything wrong.

bytheblood
06-11-2010, 02:19 PM
My response would generally be to ignore them, however if it is against policy, I would be inclined to report it for fear a gator might attack. I value the life of others much more than I value not looking like a snitch!

dcamdad
06-11-2010, 02:46 PM
I'd ask him if he had an extra rod and tackle.:goodvibes

dvcdisney
06-11-2010, 03:56 PM
I'd probably just ignore him.

Actually, 2 yrs ago in August, the Epcot/HS boat was just about to dock at the Dolphin/Swan resort when my son asked me if people were allowed to fish on the water...I asked him why? and he pointed to a man who was fishing off the side. But seconds later, I saw patrol go over and then the man picked up his things and left. So, I turned to my son and said..."I guess not."

I don't think anyone else on that boat even noticed. But if they did, no one cared.

BEASLYBOO
06-11-2010, 09:12 PM
It's interesting on how we as DVC'rs pick and choose which rules we choose to enforce, report, or ignore. (Maybe that should be the topic of the next pole)

My son for one, loves to fish, and upon asking where at OKW he could fish, I was told categorically "No , fishing was not allowed." Since it's not allowed, I followed the rules and took him fishing in the Wilderness Camping area and I also paid for a fishing excursion a few years later.

I was berated on an earlier thread for my choice not to report a dog in the room. Not knowing whether the dog was or was not a service dog, lead to my opinion of not reporting it since it I did not know if there was in deed wrong doing or not. I believe the consensus was that those of us who would choose not to report it were then classsified as contributing to the decline of American values and morality. In kindergarten they tell you it's bad to be a tattle tale! :confused3

Fishing is against the rules at OKW, no grey area here but I guess "only" if you dare ask MS. "No" seemed quite clear to me but it seems that some DVC'rs lean towards selective enforcement of "The Rules". I guess for some it's the don't ask, don't tell mentality. I didn't assume that it was ok to fish until told otherwise, I asked in 2000 and was told no.

I don't fish at OKW. I don't take pool towels back to my room. I don't take towels off of the towel cart. I don't squeeze in more than the alloted guests into my villa. I don't bring my dog to the villa on vacation with me. I do however, do my best as a parent to police my own family and personal DVC guests into following the rules and not just DVC's rules. Don't canonize me for saint hood yet, I'm just the kind of person who typically follows the rules, however I also I believe in "live and let live" so "NO" I wouldn't report it. It's not my job to police strangers, in this case it's up to OKW and it's Mgmt. I would however, have to explain to my 13 year old son that though he could never fish at OKW because we have followed the rules, some people freely break the rules and do just what they want. I guess this will be a debatable point until OKW puts up no fishing signs all over the place.

I wonder what would happen if a child/adult fell in and it resulted in injury or worse, possible death, would the family of that person then sue DVC because it had not been posted that fishing was clearly against the rules! :confused:

I love the water views and the lush landscape of OKW, fencing would ruin it!

Chuck S
06-11-2010, 09:41 PM
It's interesting on how we as DVC'rs pick and choose which rules we choose to enforce, report, or ignore. (Maybe that should be the topic of the next pole)

My son for one, loves to fish, and upon asking where at OKW he could fish, I was told categorically "No , fishing was not allowed." Since it's not allowed, I followed the rules and took him fishing in the Wilderness Camping area and I also paid for a fishing excursion a few years later.

I was berated on an earlier thread for my choice not to report a dog in the room. Not knowing whether the dog was or was not a service dog, lead to my opinion of not reporting it since it I did not know if there was in deed wrong doing or not. I believe the consensus was that those of us who would choose not to report it were then classsified as contributing to the decline of American values and morality. In kindergarten they tell you it's bad to be a tattle tale! :confused3

Fishing is against the rules at OKW, no grey area here but I guess "only" if you ask MS. "No" seemed quite clear to me but it seems that some DVC'rs lean towards selective enforcement of "The Rules". I guess for some it's the don't ask, don't tell mentality.

I don't fish at OKW. I don't take pool towels back to my room. I don't take towels off of the towel cart. I don't squeeze in more than the alloted guests into my villa. I don't bring my dog to the villa on vacation with me. I do however, do my best as a parent to police my own family and personal DVC guests into following the rules and not just DVC's rules. Don't canonize me for saint hood yet, I'm just the kind of person who typically follows the rules, however I alsoI believe in "live and let live" so "NO" I wouldn't report it. It's not my job to police strangers, in this case it's up to OKW and it's Mgmt. I would however, have to explain to my 13 year old son that though he could never fish at OKW because we have followed the rules, some people freely break the rules and do just what they want. I guess this will be a debatable point until OKW puts up no fishing signs all over the place.

I wonder what would happen if a child/adult fell in and it resulted in injury or worse, possible death, would the family of that person then sue DVC because it had not been posted that fishing was clearly against the rules! :confused:

I think it depends upon whom you ask. We've been told numerous times by OKW cast members that catch and release fishing is allowed from the banks, and that Hank's has fishing poles available for such use. So, based upon that information, I would ignore anyone I saw fishing. It is not a question of "picking and choosing" what to report, if you've been told that it is OK.

BEASLYBOO
06-11-2010, 09:45 PM
I think it depends upon whom you ask. We've been told numerous times by OKW cast members that catch and release fishing is allowed from the banks, and that Hank's has fishing poles available for such use. So, based upon that information, I would ignore anyone I saw fishing. It is not a question of "picking and choosing" what to report, if you've been told that it is OK. Perhaps I should ask again? November will be a perfect opportunity!

spiceycat
06-11-2010, 09:46 PM
I guess this will be a debatable point until OKW puts up no fishing signs all over the place.



that is the big one. Until Okw does this - fishing is maybe yes or maybe no.

bringing pets is not just against the rules. People who are allergic to pets - cats or dogs - can get sick. It is hard to understand how bad an allergy attack can get if you have never had one. People (especially kids) can die from allergy attack unless they get medical attention immediately.

spiceycat
06-11-2010, 09:48 PM
Perhaps I should ask again? November will be a perfect opportunity!

definitely !!!!:goodvibes

would ask a CM on the activities.

Kmtruffe
12-08-2011, 10:35 PM
I went to SSR year with my pole and fished with my son every night. I was told by a CM to stay within the lakes throughout the resort and stay away from the main channel leading into the main lake where the boats are. We had the time of our lives. What type of person would report or be bothered by this? We weren't bothering anybody. In fact, dozens of guests stopped by to see how the fishing was and seemed thrilled when we caught a bass. It was great. Catch and release of course.

I'm heading to OKW in Jan and can't wait to fish. It'll be the highlight of me and my sons trip.

Anybody remotely bothered by this has to get a life and work on their own issues. I'm glad to see 90% of people wouldn't complain. Good for you.

a742246
12-09-2011, 07:34 AM
I would ignore them, even if there were "no fishing" signs properly posted.

OK,you can crucify me now.:rotfl:

Caren90
12-09-2011, 09:58 AM
In my opinion, allowing fishing behind building 62 would open up a can of worms! You can bank on this; it would cast a net of trouble over the resort and only tangle up DVC owners' vacations luring them away from OKW (maybe to the Swan/ Dolphin??).
As you know, there are several schools of thought on this issue and therefore it should be approached with weighted consideration. We can't be bobbing back and forth with our decisions. This is a matter that will require calm and quiet thought rather than stream of consciousness.

If we don't reel this problem in, then what else will be allowed to happen behind building #62...? I shudder just thinking about the possibilities.

mouseaider
12-09-2011, 12:02 PM
I'm sorry but I have to laugh at some of the answers here. I don't mean any disrespect...... but ! :rotfl:

Fishing at OKW or any other resort will NOT have a negative effect on anything or anyone unless they are up tight to begin with. Tree huggers and PETA people will always strongly object of course. ;)

As long as it is catch and release it shouldn't be anybody's business but the person fishing or a cast member if it is indeed forbidden by Disney World, which I do not believe it is. :sad2:

Me? :lmao: I'd join them of course. Just check out my avatar for proof. :thumbsup2

Montana2012
12-09-2011, 12:26 PM
I would form a committee to explore the benefits vs. the detriments of such an activity. I would waste countless hours debating the issue and finally come to the conclusion that we might be better served to simply ask... is the activity in question hurting me or affecting my enjoyment of the resort and then take appropriate action based on the answer. As far as following the rules to the letter, it depends on if you are at Disney to vacation and have fun or if you are there to be a self appointed policeman.

Caren90
12-09-2011, 12:37 PM
I'm sorry but I have to laugh at some of the answers here. I don't mean any disrespect...... but ! :rotfl:

Fishing at OKW or any other resort will NOT have a negative effect on anything or anyone unless they are up tight to begin with. Tree huggers and PETA people will always strongly object of course. ;)

As long as it is catch and release it shouldn't be anybody's business but the person fishing or a cast member if it is indeed forbidden by Disney World, which I do not believe it is. :sad2:

Me? :lmao: I'd join them of course. Just check out my avatar for proof. :thumbsup2

Did you catch that at OKW? I hope you put it back! :rotfl:

artesian
12-09-2011, 07:08 PM
Not why people care. I fish each and every trip. Most people stop by and chat and want to know how things are going. As long as the person respects his surrounding and is hurting anyone I don;t see the harm. I've caught and release some rather large ones over the years

JAG107
12-10-2011, 08:38 PM
I would most certainly JOIN them! Why would you report anything like this, other than for being simply a killjoy. Unless they're littering or being loud/disruptive, I say let us fish! It's Florida for pete's sake!

bumbershoot
12-10-2011, 09:48 PM
FYI, this thread is a year and a half old....



DS and I would feel bad for the fish, FWIW. Especially when being caught and released. Having a hook in your mouth for nothing but the *amusement* of a human? Not my style. But I wouldn't report it, figuring that eventually a few CMs will see the fisherperson and they could figure out if it was OK or not...

I wouldn't report a dog, either. Pet or service dog, the allergies would be the same, and service animals are allowed. And there are many things that service dogs can do, and there are no rules making people get official training or vests (they aren't all for the blind, for example), so there's NO way to tell by looking at or hearing a dog in another room, to know if it's a service animal or not. I do not want to increase the difficulties in life for someone who needs a service dog, and therefore wouldn't want them questioned, and therefore I wouldn't "report" it. I'd just assume that that person needs the service animal, and go along with my trip. Even if I was sneezing because of it. (and I can sneeze to a frightening degree, and it can throw me into asthma...but I still wouldn't do anything but assume it was a service animal)

mouseaider
12-12-2011, 08:32 AM
Did you catch that at OKW? I hope you put it back! :rotfl:

No I didn't. That was caught in a tributary off of Lake Ontario and yes, I put it back after a quick photo. In fact, I haven't killed a fish in over twenty years. I just love fishing for them with my fly rod and putting them back for somebody else to enjoy. :thumbsup2

Chuck S
12-12-2011, 09:08 AM
FYI, this thread is a year and a half old....



DS and I would feel bad for the fish, FWIW. Especially when being caught and released. Having a hook in your mouth for nothing but the *amusement* of a human? Not my style. But I wouldn't report it, figuring that eventually a few CMs will see the fisherperson and they could figure out if it was OK or not...

I wouldn't report a dog, either. Pet or service dog, the allergies would be the same, and service animals are allowed. And there are many things that service dogs can do, and there are no rules making people get official training or vests (they aren't all for the blind, for example), so there's NO way to tell by looking at or hearing a dog in another room, to know if it's a service animal or not. I do not want to increase the difficulties in life for someone who needs a service dog, and therefore wouldn't want them questioned, and therefore I wouldn't "report" it. I'd just assume that that person needs the service animal, and go along with my trip. Even if I was sneezing because of it. (and I can sneeze to a frightening degree, and it can throw me into asthma...but I still wouldn't do anything but assume it was a service animal)

It is doubtful ,though, no matter what function they perform that a service animal would be :

1) yapping as most are trained to be quiet unless there is a problem, so if you hear a yapping dog please report it, as their human may be in trouble.

2) in a room alone, and not out in the parks with the disabled person.

3) not well groomed.

rock_doctor
12-12-2011, 12:37 PM
What would you do?

I would grab a beer, a chair and sit down and wait for one of the alligators to leap out and eat him. :scared1:

You can fish in most of the lakes just as long as it does not impact other guests or you don't go over board and try to catch every fish in the place.... I would suspect security would not say anything to him and i certainty would not.

DisneyStarWisher
12-13-2011, 06:53 AM
My DS will be fishing at OKW this Sunday. In June, Hank told us we could fish in the lake by the Hospitality House on the other side of the bridge. My DSs caught several. Definitely catch and release.

OrangeCountyCommuter
12-15-2011, 10:48 AM
I would assume he's doing catch and release and not let it bother me.

OrangeCountyCommuter
12-15-2011, 10:50 AM
It is doubtful ,though, no matter what function they perform that a service animal would be :

1) yapping as most are trained to be quiet unless there is a problem, so if you hear a yapping dog please report it, as their human may be in trouble.

2) in a room alone, and not out in the parks with the disabled person.

3) not well groomed.

#2 may not be valid. I have a blind friend with a service dog. Dog does not go to the parks with her, for example. She uses a cain and her family there. There are places she feels the dog is not a good fit and does not use her. Disney is problematic because of the large number of kids (and clueless parents) who want to 'play' with the dog.

angelmav
12-16-2011, 03:16 AM
#2 may not be valid. I have a blind friend with a service dog. Dog does not go to the parks with her, for example. She uses a cain and her family there. There are places she feels the dog is not a good fit and does not use her. Disney is problematic because of the large number of kids (and clueless parents) who want to 'play' with the dog.

Then why bring the dog at all on that type of trip?

Brian Noble
12-16-2011, 08:31 AM
I can't speak for OCC's blind friend, but I'd imagine because the service animal is more helpful than not on balance, and makes for a more comfortable trip. And, assuming so, good for them.

angelmav
12-16-2011, 09:32 AM
I can't speak for OCC's blind friend, but I'd imagine because the service animal is more helpful than not on balance, and makes for a more comfortable trip. And, assuming so, good for them.

So the animal is being brought to be contained for the duration of the trip in the hotel?

I am just going by the example given by OCC, but to make this excuse that the service animal needs to be in the hotel, but is of no service in the parks because of the use of a cain/family, why do that to the animal?

This is all of course used as a rationalization/justification of why an unattended animal is being left alone in a hotel room, which I don't particularly buy the scenario being offered and if thats what is happening, think its unfair to the animal.

dmoore22
12-16-2011, 09:44 AM
I'm sorry but I have to laugh at some of the answers here. I don't mean any disrespect...... but ! :rotfl:

Fishing at OKW or any other resort will NOT have a negative effect on anything or anyone unless they are up tight to begin with. Tree huggers and PETA people will always strongly object of course. ;)

As long as it is catch and release it shouldn't be anybody's business but the person fishing or a cast member if it is indeed forbidden by Disney World, which I do not believe it is. :sad2:

Me? :lmao: I'd join them of course. Just check out my avatar for proof. :thumbsup2

I'm a tree hugger! I resent the negative implication associated with tree huggers. I have to hug the tree as I shimmy up to the limb where I managed to snag my line while casting. :drinking1:fish:

mouseaider
12-16-2011, 10:13 AM
I'm tree hugger! I resent the negative implication associated with tree huggers. I have to hug the tree as I shimmy up to the limb where I managed to snag my line while casting. :drinking1:fish:

OK..... so I have a question for you then.

How do you shimmy up the tree at your age..... and hold onto your drink? :lmao:

One of these days you'll have to show me. ;)

Caren90
12-16-2011, 12:16 PM
OK..... so I have a question for you then.

How do you shimmy up the tree at your age..... and hold onto your drink? :lmao:

One of these days you'll have to show me. ;)

Every good fisherman has one of those beer dispensing helmets.

Brian Noble
12-16-2011, 01:12 PM
So the animal is being brought to be contained for the duration of the trip in the hotel?
I'm sure that neither you nor I are in a position to say, unless of course one of us owns a service animal. I don't.

dmoore22
12-16-2011, 03:07 PM
OK..... so I have a question for you then.

How do you shimmy up the tree at your age..... and hold onto your drink? :lmao:

One of these days you'll have to show me. ;)

Do you really believe that's water in the water bottle clipped to my belt? Please, don't tell my DW.

http://www.disneystore.com/disney-store-official-site-for-disney-merchandise-disney-nostalgia-aluminum-mickey-mouse-water-bottle/mp/1286848/1000350/?D=water+bottle&Nr=pPublished%3A1&Ntk=All_Shopping&Nu=pProductID&Ntt=water+bottle&Dr=pPublished%3A1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial