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Travel Mum
05-28-2010, 10:13 PM
I know this is still ages away but, as I'm such an anal planner, of course I have a rough schedule mapped out! Also I have actually already booked/deposited for our cruise. Originally the reason for this trip was all about giving our youngest daughter a Disneyland experience (she was only 18 mths when we last visited Disneyland so has no memory of it) but going to WDW instead, as a change for hubby and I. Then I thought that, since we'd be in Florida, we should tack on a 3 or 4 night cruise at the end - however that would be added last minute.

Ironically, it's all changed the order of planning now because, once I saw that we could cruise on the mega-liner Freedom of the Seas out of Port Canaveral (and my daughters' first ice-skating experience will be a sea!), I got very distracted from Disney. Therefore the cruise is the first thing booked :rotfl:

We are unfortunately limited in time that we can be away because it will be my oldest daughter's first year of high school and I feel I can only take her out for a week so we will have that plus the two week school holiday. Oh by the way, we will be 2 adults and 3 children aged 13, 10 and 6 (nearly 7). So here goes:

Sat 01 Oct
- Fly Wellington/Auckland/Los Angeles/ Orlando
- Transfer by Disney's Magical Express to Port Orleans Riverside for 7 nights (cause their rooms sleep 5)

Sun 02 Oct
- A Relaxing day at the hotel plus visit Downtown Disney

Mon 03 Oct
- Magic Kingdom

Tue 04 Oct
- Hollywood Studios

Wed 05 Oct
- Rest Day and/or one of the Disney Water Parks

Thu 06 Oct
- Animal Kingdom

Fri 07 Oct
- Epcot

Sat 08 Oct
- Check out of POR, pick up rental car, check in to an off-site resort for 7 nights

Sun 09 Oct
- Rest Day and/or one of the Disney Water Parks

Mon 10 Oct
- Universal

Tues 11 Oct
- IOA

Wed 12 Oct
- Rest Day and/or one of the Disney Water Parks

Thu 13 Oct
- Sea World

Fri 14 Oct
- Rest Day or one of the Disney Water Parks or re-visit Magic Kingdom

Sat 15 Oct
- Check out of hotel and drive to Cape Canaveral
- Visit Kennedy Space Centre
- Stay overnight in a hotel near the port

Sun 16 Oct
- Board Freedom of the Seas for our 7 night Western Caribbean cruise

Sun 23 Oct
- Arrive back to Port Canaveral
- Transfer to Orlando airport
- Fly Orlando/Los Angeles/Auckland/Wellington

Tues 25 Oct- Arrive Wellington



I know it sounds really full on and somewhat exhausting but I don't want to go all that way, spend the fortune it's going to cost, and feel like we'd missed anything major. We love cruising and I'm banking on those 7 days at the end being very relaxing to make up for our busy two weeks. What do you "downunder" WDW experts think of the schedule?

I'm not at all set on which parks we visit on our park days and figure I will need to know park schedules and crowd attendance stats before that is finalised. I also want to do MNSSHP one night while we are there but I'm happy to drive in for that during the second week we are staying offsite.

Look forward to hearing any of your thoughts/suggestions/experience.

Many thanks :flower3:

PrincessInOz
05-28-2010, 11:53 PM
TravelMum - It's probably me but can you confirm your travel dates? The 1st October - is this a Friday or a Saturday? And are you talking 2010 or 2011?

Travel Mum
05-29-2010, 12:02 AM
Hi Princess in Oz, it's 2011 (so a long way away and everyone else I know, except it seems the people on here, think I'm very strange starting to plan this far in advance ;) ) so the 1st is a Saturday.

PrincessInOz
05-29-2010, 12:16 AM
Mmm.. I am feeling better but I think I lost a couple of brain cells over the last 2 weeks. I could have worked the date out from your ticker :laughing:

Your rough plans look great. The only thing I would say is that based on this year's schedule, Fantasmic currently only plays on Sunday and Thursday nights. Assuming that the schedule is roughly the same next year and that you want to see Fantasmic, you might want to consider getting to HS on either night.

And Epcot is opened a bit later on a Wednesday night.

As you're staying on site for the first week, you might also have a look at this year's schedule to see if you could take advantage of either the am or pm EMH? I'd say that there is a high likelihood that these may be the same next year....they are the same as 5 years ago.

And in the second week, if you were looking for a water park...have you considered Wet n Wild?

I know it is very expensive, but everyone that I spoke to...from locals to Americans from other states said that Discovery Cove was worth the money.

aussietravellers
05-29-2010, 02:38 AM
And Epcot is opened a bit later on a Wednesday night.


Epcot is not always open later on Wednesday nights, it does change.

In September this year, aside from the last Wednesday of the month, evening EMH are on a Friday at Epcot :thumbsup2

aussietravellers
05-29-2010, 02:40 AM
I know this is still ages away but, as I'm such an anal planner, of course I have a rough schedule mapped out! Also I have actually already booked/deposited for our cruise. Originally the reason for this trip was all about giving our youngest daughter a Disneyland experience (she was only 18 mths when we last visited Disneyland so has no memory of it) but going to WDW instead, as a change for hubby and I. Then I thought that, since we'd be in Florida, we should tack on a 3 or 4 night cruise at the end - however that would be added last minute.

Ironically, it's all changed the order of planning now because, once I saw that we could cruise on the mega-liner Freedom of the Seas out of Port Canaveral (and my daughters' first ice-skating experience will be a sea!), I got very distracted from Disney. Therefore the cruise is the first thing booked :rotfl:

We are unfortunately limited in time that we can be away because it will be my oldest daughter's first year of high school and I feel I can only take her out for a week so we will have that plus the two week school holiday. Oh by the way, we will be 2 adults and 3 children aged 13, 10 and 6 (nearly 7). So here goes:

Sat 01 Oct
- Fly Wellington/Auckland/Los Angeles/ Orlando
- Transfer by Disney's Magical Express to Port Orleans Riverside for 7 nights (cause their rooms sleep 5)

Sun 02 Oct
- A Relaxing day at the hotel plus visit Downtown Disney

Mon 03 Oct
- Magic Kingdom

Tue 04 Oct
- Hollywood Studios

Wed 05 Oct
- Rest Day and/or one of the Disney Water Parks

Thu 06 Oct
- Animal Kingdom

Fri 07 Oct
- Epcot

Sat 08 Oct
- Check out of POR, pick up rental car, check in to an off-site resort for 7 nights

Sun 09 Oct
- Rest Day and/or one of the Disney Water Parks

Mon 10 Oct
- Universal

Tues 11 Oct
- IOA

Wed 12 Oct
- Rest Day and/or one of the Disney Water Parks

Thu 13 Oct
- Sea World

Fri 14 Oct
- Rest Day or one of the Disney Water Parks or re-visit Magic Kingdom

Sat 15 Oct
- Check out of hotel and drive to Cape Canaveral
- Visit Kennedy Space Centre
- Stay overnight in a hotel near the port

Sun 16 Oct
- Board Freedom of the Seas for our 7 night Western Caribbean cruise

Sun 23 Oct
- Arrive back to Port Canaveral
- Transfer to Orlando airport
- Fly Orlando/Los Angeles/Auckland/Wellington

Tues 25 Oct- Arrive Wellington



I know it sounds really full on and somewhat exhausting but I don't want to go all that way, spend the fortune it's going to cost, and feel like we'd missed anything major. We love cruising and I'm banking on those 7 days at the end being very relaxing to make up for our busy two weeks. What do you "downunder" WDW experts think of the schedule?

I'm not at all set on which parks we visit on our park days and figure I will need to know park schedules and crowd attendance stats before that is finalised. I also want to do MNSSHP one night while we are there but I'm happy to drive in for that during the second week we are staying offsite.

Look forward to hearing any of your thoughts/suggestions/experience.

Many thanks :flower3:

Looks great :cool1: What an exciting holiday you have planned. You can always update your daily plan once the park hours are released for that time of year and once your ADR's are organised if you are making any.

Tour Guide Mike is great too for giving you the best days to go to each parks. :thumbsup2

gregpso
05-29-2010, 02:51 AM
I know this is still ages away but, as I'm such an anal planner, of course I have a rough schedule mapped out! Also I have actually already booked/deposited for our cruise. Originally the reason for this trip was all about giving our youngest daughter a Disneyland experience (she was only 18 mths when we last visited Disneyland so has no memory of it) but going to WDW instead, as a change for hubby and I. Then I thought that, since we'd be in Florida, we should tack on a 3 or 4 night cruise at the end - however that would be added last minute.

Ironically, it's all changed the order of planning now because, once I saw that we could cruise on the mega-liner Freedom of the Seas out of Port Canaveral (and my daughters' first ice-skating experience will be a sea!), I got very distracted from Disney. Therefore the cruise is the first thing booked :rotfl:

We are unfortunately limited in time that we can be away because it will be my oldest daughter's first year of high school and I feel I can only take her out for a week so we will have that plus the two week school holiday. Oh by the way, we will be 2 adults and 3 children aged 13, 10 and 6 (nearly 7). So here goes:

Sat 01 Oct
- Fly Wellington/Auckland/Los Angeles/ Orlando
- Transfer by Disney's Magical Express to Port Orleans Riverside for 7 nights (cause their rooms sleep 5)

Sun 02 Oct
- A Relaxing day at the hotel plus visit Downtown Disney

Mon 03 Oct
- Magic Kingdom

Tue 04 Oct
- Hollywood Studios

Wed 05 Oct
- Rest Day and/or one of the Disney Water Parks

Thu 06 Oct
- Animal Kingdom

Fri 07 Oct
- Epcot

Sat 08 Oct
- Check out of POR, pick up rental car, check in to an off-site resort for 7 nights

Sun 09 Oct
- Rest Day and/or one of the Disney Water Parks

Mon 10 Oct
- Universal

Tues 11 Oct
- IOA

Wed 12 Oct
- Rest Day and/or one of the Disney Water Parks

Thu 13 Oct
- Sea World

Fri 14 Oct
- Rest Day or one of the Disney Water Parks or re-visit Magic Kingdom

Sat 15 Oct
- Check out of hotel and drive to Cape Canaveral
- Visit Kennedy Space Centre
- Stay overnight in a hotel near the port

Sun 16 Oct
- Board Freedom of the Seas for our 7 night Western Caribbean cruise

Sun 23 Oct
- Arrive back to Port Canaveral
- Transfer to Orlando airport
- Fly Orlando/Los Angeles/Auckland/Wellington

Tues 25 Oct- Arrive Wellington



I know it sounds really full on and somewhat exhausting but I don't want to go all that way, spend the fortune it's going to cost, and feel like we'd missed anything major. We love cruising and I'm banking on those 7 days at the end being very relaxing to make up for our busy two weeks. What do you "downunder" WDW experts think of the schedule?

I'm not at all set on which parks we visit on our park days and figure I will need to know park schedules and crowd attendance stats before that is finalised. I also want to do MNSSHP one night while we are there but I'm happy to drive in for that during the second week we are staying offsite.

Look forward to hearing any of your thoughts/suggestions/experience.

Many thanks :flower3:



You will need at least 2 days for universal as they have 2 parks plus Harry Potter is opening there. We are going for 8 nights in sept and will have an exhausting schedule too always sleep we we get home

gregpso
05-29-2010, 02:54 AM
You will need at least 2 days for universal as they have 2 parks plus Harry Potter is opening there. We are going for 8 nights in sept and will have an exhausting schedule too always sleep we we get home

Day 2 lose the relaxing day also In my view seaworld is not that great (*went there 20 years ago) not much different to seaworld here. There is another day for Universal

Travel Mum
05-29-2010, 03:15 AM
As you're staying on site for the first week, you might also have a look at this year's schedule to see if you could take advantage of either the am or pm EMH? I'd say that there is a high likelihood that these may be the same next year....they are the same as 5 years ago.

And in the second week, if you were looking for a water park...have you considered Wet n Wild?

I know it is very expensive, but everyone that I spoke to...from locals to Americans from other states said that Discovery Cove was worth the money.

Thanks for looking it over Princess in Oz - it's really helpful to have some one who's been give me their opinion as its really hard to totally imagine if what looks okay on paper is actually doable!

In terms of EMH, I'm so confused after reading lots of posts about it, as to whether or not it works out better or worse? It sounds like it makes the parks so much busier when its an EMH day - what do you think? :confused3

Why I say "and/or a Disney Water park" several times on the schedule is because I thought we'd add "Waterparks and more" to our passes and so, even if we don't go to one that first week that we are onsite, as the passes are valid 14 days, we could still drive back to them in our off-site week, expecially as I think I read somewhere that you don't need to pay for parking at either Blizzard Beach or Typhoon Lagoon. I don't really have a concept of the distances though so I'm not sure if that is actually practical. I don't know much about Wet n Wild (but will look into it if you think it's better than the Disney water parks) but, presuming our off site accommodation is closer to Universal and Sea World than Disney perhaps it would make more sense? Unfortunately I already know Discovery Cove is too expensive for us :sad2: However, we will be experiencing so many new parks, I'm actually okay about that.

Travel Mum
05-29-2010, 03:33 AM
Epcot is not always open later on Wednesday nights, it does change.

In September this year, aside from the last Wednesday of the month, evening EMH are on a Friday at Epcot :thumbsup2

Thanks for looking over it Aussietravellers - what has your experience been with EMH? I've used Magic Mornings at Disneyland before which is great to get around the Fantasyland rides but it sounds like 1000's of people have access to EMH at WDW so does it make the parks worse rather than better?

PrincessInOz
05-29-2010, 03:34 AM
Thanks for looking it over Princess in Oz - it's really helpful to have some one who's been give me their opinion as its really hard to totally imagine if what looks okay on paper is actually doable!

In terms of EMH, I'm so confused after reading lots of posts about it, as to whether or not it works out better or worse? It sounds like it makes the parks so much busier when its an EMH day - what do you think? :confused3

Why I say "and/or a Disney Water park" several times on the schedule is because I thought we'd add "Waterparks and more" to our passes and so, even if we don't go to one that first week that we are onsite, as the passes are valid 14 days, we could still drive back to them in our off-site week, expecially as I think I read somewhere that you don't need to pay for parking at either Blizzard Beach or Typhoon Lagoon. I don't really have a concept of the distances though so I'm not sure if that is actually practical. I don't know much about Wet n Wild (but will look into it if you think it's better than the Disney water parks) but, presuming our off site accommodation is closer to Universal and Sea World than Disney perhaps it would make more sense? Unfortunately I already know Discovery Cove is too expensive for us :sad2: However, we will be experiencing so many new parks, I'm actually okay about that.

I've done Magic Mornings at DisneyLAND and they were okay.

We had planned to do am EMH at DisneyWORLD but it never worked out for us. We did 2 pm EMH - one at MK and the other at AK. Both were fantastic. We were at MK until midnight and by about 11 pm, the crowds disappeared and we were able to walk on any ride we wanted (POTC, Space Mountain, BTRRM, SmallWorld) with the exception of the Peter Pan ride, which was still a 50 minute wait. But I had saved fastpasses for PP from earlier in the day and this wasn't a problem.
AK was even better - EMH was available between 5 - 8 pm. We pretty much walked onto Kali 2 or 3 times (remember we went in May) and Everest 3 times - no queues. We also went straight into It's a Bug's Life and pretty much all the rides in DinoLand as well.

I know that there's chat about the parks being busier on a EMH day - but in May I didn't see any evidence to support this.

The Water park option adds $$ (I think it's about $50 per person??) and unless you know for sure that you're going to use all the days for the Water Park, you might be better off buying individual entry for the park.

Travel Mum
05-29-2010, 03:40 AM
You will need at least 2 days for universal as they have 2 parks plus Harry Potter is opening there. We are going for 8 nights in sept and will have an exhausting schedule too always sleep we we get home

Thanks Gregpso, but the day after Universal is scheduled to be visiting Islands of Adventure for Harry Potter so that means we will be having two days for Universal parks - or do you mean that we need 2 days to cover Universal plus a day for Islands of Adventure?

Sounds like I can count Seaworld as a relaxing day if you don't think there is much to see there. We still want to go because our girls have never seen Orca before and we've only visited Sea World Gold Coast once a few years ago so our two youngest have no memory of dolphins or sea lions either.

That's an interesting point about Day 2 because I'm just so unsure how we will feel after travelling all that way and therefore I'm a bit nervous to schedule a park for that day. We won't arrive until the Saturday night and will have been travelling for about 24 hours by the time we get there so we will be so jet-lagged!

aussietravellers
05-29-2010, 03:40 AM
Thanks for looking over it Aussietravellers - what has your experience been with EMH? I've used Magic Mornings at Disneyland before which is great to get around the Fantasyland rides but it sounds like 1000's of people have access to EMH at WDW so does it make the parks worse rather than better?

I think that EMH do make the park busier particularly the evening EMH's although I do like the morning EMH on occasion. You have so much time to research parks and days which will be busier and quieter. I have put a lot of time into researching what parks are supposed to be busier or quieter on which days and have joined Tour Guide Mike for this trip to help with that and he seems to have great advise and does change his recommendations from time to time as Disney changes their schedule. Although I have to say last time we were at WDW, we just went on whichever day suited us and around our ADR's and never had a problem and we were there for three weeks.

October at Epcot is supposed to be busy with the Food and Wine Festival so partlicularly the first few days of October when it begins apparantly it is crazy busy.

We have quite a few days in our trip that we have classed as Waterpark/Resort Pool/Shopping days and we will just work out what we want to do on those days depending on weather etc so I think they are a great idea. It's good to have a little bit of time to just wing it if you wish.

Things can change too when different things are released, like this time we changed dates because of food and wine festival starting and also with the Halloween party dates and also just as we were about to make our ADR's we had to make a change with Wishes not being on every night we had to rearrange one of our Magic Kingdom days to fit that it.

So I think you really have a great start and when park hours are released with dates of different things you want to go to (if you do) then you can change a day around if you need to. I don't think that EMH's are the best thing. I would sooner be at an alternative park and be there on opening as you can often get a lot done in the mornings from opening before it starts getting busier late morning.

aussietravellers
05-29-2010, 03:45 AM
Oh, for your Kennedy Space Center day, check their schedule to see if there is a rocket or shuttle launch during your trip. We miss one in September by a few days this year :sad1:

But we were lucky enough on our last trip to have a rocket launch during our trip so we planned at the last minute (like a couple of days before as the date can change) and went on that day. It was amazing! To be there watching the rocket, knowing that was heading off into space. My son was taken out of school for the trip and they were studying space at the time so it was an amazing video for him to take back to school and showing his class the launch.

queenie82
05-29-2010, 03:46 AM
Day 2 lose the relaxing day also In my view seaworld is not that great (*went there 20 years ago) not much different to seaworld here. There is another day for UniversalBased on 20 years ago?
Seaworld in Orlando is bigger and wonderful!!! And in terms of 'here' if you are talking about in Oz (although the OP is in NZ)..while I love the Polar bears in the Gold Coast, Orlando is great and VERY different. And as for San Diego. There are pros and cons with each. I like both of them but would probably pick Orlando over San Diego.
It is not somewhere I would go to every trip...but you must go at least once.

You will need at least 2 days for universal as they have 2 parks plus Harry Potter is opening there. We are going for 8 nights in sept and will have an exhausting schedule too always sleep we we get homeI wouldn't allocate 2 days to Universal. Go to IOA and have a look at Harry Potter. But seriously...I did (before WWOHP) IOA AND Universal Studios in 1 day. We had a 2 day ticket and didn't go back for the extra day as we were done.

Thanks for looking it over Princess in Oz - it's really helpful to have some one who's been give me their opinion as its really hard to totally imagine if what looks okay on paper is actually doable!

In terms of EMH, I'm so confused after reading lots of posts about it, as to whether or not it works out better or worse? It sounds like it makes the parks so much busier when its an EMH day - what do you think? :confused3

Why I say "and/or a Disney Water park" several times on the schedule is because I thought we'd add "Waterparks and more" to our passes and so, even if we don't go to one that first week that we are onsite, as the passes are valid 14 days, we could still drive back to them in our off-site week, expecially as I think I read somewhere that you don't need to pay for parking at either Blizzard Beach or Typhoon Lagoon. I don't really have a concept of the distances though so I'm not sure if that is actually practical. I don't know much about Wet n Wild (but will look into it if you think it's better than the Disney water parks) but, presuming our off site accommodation is closer to Universal and Sea World than Disney perhaps it would make more sense? Unfortunately I already know Discovery Cove is too expensive for us :sad2: However, we will be experiencing so many new parks, I'm actually okay about that.
So how many days ticket are you getting?
I count 4 and maybe 5.
Base Ticket for 5 days is $228. Making it 10 is $243. [280 and 295 for hoppers] Plus add on etc.

If you are staying in the area I would HIGHLY recommend getting the 10 day. You can pop in one night for emh. Even that first 'relax' day you can go in for a relax look around day.
I agree that $$ all add up but it is worth considering. Especially if you are dealing with limited Fantasmic showings etc. Plus if you are dining etc.

I'm not sure of the crowds in the water parks in October but you can also always do WP in the morning and park at night. I loved the Water Parks. BB is my fav. They are unique water parks.:cool1::thumbsup2
I would say to an Aussie that our QLD waterparks have the 'fancier' newer rides so you are better going there than going to Wet and Wild in Orlando. Personally I don't think Wet and Wild in Orlando is worth the visit.
You have limited time so Disney and their unique attractions and attention to detail should be your focus. :goodvibes

This is why you are NOT looking too early. It is better knowing your priorities early on. Can I come :cloud9: :rotfl2:

:yay: Have fun with the planning :woohoo:

aussietravellers
05-29-2010, 03:51 AM
We won't arrive until the Saturday night and will have been travelling for about 24 hours by the time we get there so we will be so jet-lagged!

You may be surprised, often you don't get too jetlagged on the way over. The great thing about arriving at night is that you will arrive (exhausted) have some dinner if you haven't had any and then go to bed early. You will then have a full nights sleep and wake up fresh in the morning ready and raring to go. But there is no reason why you couldn't keep that first day as a rest/pool/explore DTD day (even go to Disney Quest) if you like and if you wake up and all feel great then make it your MK day.

aussietravellers
05-29-2010, 04:00 AM
Based on 20 years ago?
Seaworld in Orlando is bigger and wonderful!!! And in terms of 'here' if you are talking about in Oz (although the OP is in NZ)..while I love the Polar bears in the Gold Coast, Orlando is great and VERY different. And as for San Diego. There are pros and cons with each. I like both of them but would probably pick Orlando over San Diego.
It is not somewhere I would go to every trip...but you must go at least once.

Totally agree with this! Sea World in Orlando is very very different to Sea World on the Gold Coast

So how many days ticket are you getting?
I count 4 and maybe 5.
Base Ticket for 5 days is $228. Making it 10 is $243. [280 and 295 for hoppers] Plus add on etc.

If you are staying in the area I would HIGHLY recommend getting the 10 day. You can pop in one night for emh. Even that first 'relax' day you can go in for a relax look around day.
I agree that $$ all add up but it is worth considering. Especially if you are dealing with limited Fantasmic showings etc. Plus if you are dining etc.

I agree with this too, I think the 10 day is better value, but OP if you decide you need more days you can upgrade your tickets when you are there if you feel that a 5 day ticket is not enough and you can do it daily up to 10 days if you like :thumbsup2

I'm not sure of the crowds in the water parks in October but you can also always do WP in the morning and park at night.

Great suggestion! We do this as we get to the waterpark on opening, then leave mid/late afternoon, have dinner at a park or go to a park after.

I loved the Water Parks. BB is my fav. They are unique water parks.:cool1::thumbsup2
I would say to an Aussie that our QLD waterparks have the 'fancier' newer rides so you are better going there than going to Wet and Wild in Orlando. Personally I don't think Wet and Wild in Orlando is worth the visit.
You have limited time so Disney and their unique attractions and attention to detail should be your focus. :goodvibes

This is why you are NOT looking too early. It is better knowing your priorities early on. Can I come :cloud9: :rotfl2:

:yay: Have fun with the planning :woohoo:

Great suggestions from Queenie

Travel Mum
05-29-2010, 04:10 AM
Oh Queenie and Aussie Travellers, thank you soooooo much for all your helpful advice! I really appreciate it and it's fantastic of you. It's given me lots to think about and I'm going to take the time tomorrow to read it all again but just now, need to settle down on the couch and watch the finale of Lost with DH :goodvibes

Travel Mum
05-30-2010, 05:33 AM
Yes, although I've only got one day planned for each of the four Disney parks, I had assumed we'd get a 5-day Park Hopper plus Water-parks etc so that we had another park day up our sleeves and could use the Disney water parks. We have been watching all the great videos on the Blizzard Beach and Typhoon Lagoon websites and my 12 year old is so keen to try Summit Plummet! Also, I'd never even realised what Disney Quest was until I looked on the website and I actually think my DH would enjoy it as would our daughters. I thought that maybe we would go to Downtown Disney (by boat presuming we are staying at POR) on that first day to look around, start feeling the magic and visit Disney Quest. However, that is very interesting to hear that we may not be as jet-lagged as I'd thought so maybe we'd be okay to visit a park. Therefore your suggestions of getting a 10-day pass are well worth considering. I had begun to wonder if there was actually any point getting a Park Hopper (I'm just in the habit of having one at Disneyland) but the idea of a water park in the morning and then perhaps over to a park late afternoon to catch the evening activities sounds a great option to have. I'm just really unsure of how much my family will physically be able to take each park day , expecially our youngest!

I never intended to time our trip for the Epcot Food and Wine festival so that's a shame that it will make it a busier time. Can't do anything about that now though so will just have to plan around it and use all available resources to try and figure out which park will be best for each day. I am thrilled to be there at the time MNSSHP will be on though, as I've never done that before. We do trick or treat now here in N.Z. but it's not the same as when I would do it as a child living in the U.S. - it's not even dark here! It will be great for my girls to experience an American Halloween :)

How amazing that would be to be in Orlando when a rocket is launched at the Kennedy Space Centre! Gosh, I'd have one happy DH if I managed to schedule that into our itinerary (the scary cost of this trip might go down a bit easier) :thumbsup2 Does anyone know how far in advance they post their launch dates?

By the way, the plan to move offsite for the second week is so that we can have a week in a Two-Bedroom type place giving us all a bit more space. Seven nights squeezed into one room at POR with my youngest on a trundle bed will be a challenge but I'm counting on the presumption that we'll hardly ever be in our rooms that week and we'll be so exhausted in the evenings, we'll all fall straight to sleep ;) - do you think this is right? We then will go onto the cruise ship where, whilst we will have two interconnecting cabins, we'll have two children with us in our cabin and our third child will be in the connecting cabin with my in-laws (meeting us to do the cruise as well as my brother-in-law, sister-in-law and niece). Plus we need to move offsite so that we can have a week of our U.S. holiday where we can have opportunity to have our U.S. junk food fix and eat at Taco Bell etc :rotfl:

By the way, we will have a rental car that second offsite week, but do you think it would be better to have it while we were staying onsite too? I'm so confused about the Disney transportation system - as to whether its good or not! I certainly love the idea of arriving from the airport by Magical Express and one of the benefits of staying onsite is having the use of the transportation system (should technically be more relaxing than driving/finding a park etc) but then I read of people having cars and driving to the parks even if they are staying onsite ??

Thanks so much for all of your advice and encouragement - I'm so pleased I posted :)

PrincessInOz
05-30-2010, 06:38 AM
Yes, although I've only got one day planned for each of the four Disney parks, I had assumed we'd get a 5-day Park Hopper plus Water-parks etc so that we had another park day up our sleeves and could use the Disney water parks. We have been watching all the great videos on the Blizzard Beach and Typhoon Lagoon websites and my 12 year old is so keen to try Summit Plummet! Also, I'd never even realised what Disney Quest was until I looked on the website and I actually think my DH would enjoy it as would our daughters. I thought that maybe we would go to Downtown Disney (by boat presuming we are staying at POR) on that first day to look around, start feeling the magic and visit Disney Quest. However, that is very interesting to hear that we may not be as jet-lagged as I'd thought so maybe we'd be okay to visit a park. Therefore your suggestions of getting a 10-day pass are well worth considering. I had begun to wonder if there was actually any point getting a Park Hopper (I'm just in the habit of having one at Disneyland) but the idea of a water park in the morning and then perhaps over to a park late afternoon to catch the evening activities sounds a great option to have. I'm just really unsure of how much my family will physically be able to take each park day , expecially our youngest!

We've never been jetlagged going or coming back from the US; but everyone is different. We have done a 10 day park hopper ticket for both times that we've been in Orlando. For the extra money it costs to buy the 10 day ticket, it certainly is cost effective and it gives you the flexibility to come and go when you want. And it also provides you with the option to go to a different park in the same day if the park that you're at is much busier than anticipated. We've never yet made it to a water park - usually we are too busy enjoying the Parks or using the pools at our hotels. Definitely going to add water parks for the next trip :rotfl2: And our strategy was to hit the parks early, leave mid afternoon for a rest (when the parks were usually at their busiest) and then come back out again at night.

I never intended to time our trip for the Epcot Food and Wine festival so that's a shame that it will make it a busier time. Can't do anything about that now though so will just have to plan around it and use all available resources to try and figure out which park will be best for each day. I am thrilled to be there at the time MNSSHP will be on though, as I've never done that before. We do trick or treat now here in N.Z. but it's not the same as when I would do it as a child living in the U.S. - it's not even dark here! It will be great for my girls to experience an American Halloween :)

I'm envious. I've been reading some TRs on the recent F&W in DLR recently and would LOVE to be able to go to Epcot or DLR for F&W. You'll just have to take lots of food porn. And Halloween is HUGE in the US; so your kids will probably have a ball.

How amazing that would be to be in Orlando when a rocket is launched at the Kennedy Space Centre! Gosh, I'd have one happy DH if I managed to schedule that into our itinerary (the scary cost of this trip might go down a bit easier) :thumbsup2 Does anyone know how far in advance they post their launch dates?

I think they post 3 - 6 months in advance. And you can sign up for newsletters...
http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/events-launches.aspx

By the way, the plan to move offsite for the second week is so that we can have a week in a Two-Bedroom type place giving us all a bit more space.

Good plan, if you want the extra space.

Seven nights squeezed into one room at POR with my youngest on a trundle bed will be a challenge but I'm counting on the presumption that we'll hardly ever be in our rooms that week and we'll be so exhausted in the evenings, we'll all fall straight to sleep ;) - do you think this is right?

Yes, a pretty good assumption. And remember that the resorts in Orlando usually also have an arcade room, pool and SHOP that you can go to. The deluxe accommodations also have a gym. If you are at POR, 5 people in the one room could be a challenge after 7 nights, depending on whether your kids fight or not. We had 3 of us in the room and I think there was more than ample space for us. I'd be tempted to ask DVCAustralia more questions about renting points for a DVC 1 or 2 bedroom place.

We then will go onto the cruise ship where, whilst we will have two interconnecting cabins, we'll have two children with us in our cabin and our third child will be in the connecting cabin with my in-laws (meeting us to do the cruise as well as my brother-in-law, sister-in-law and niece). Plus we need to move offsite so that we can have a week of our U.S. holiday where we can have opportunity to have our U.S. junk food fix and eat at Taco Bell etc :rotfl:

I don't think this will be a problem. You'll get a lot of junk food at the parks; just not the big chains. popcorn::

By the way, we will have a rental car that second offsite week, but do you think it would be better to have it while we were staying onsite too?

This will come down to a cost decision. We had a rental car for the first week, and had thought we would hand it back when we moved from POR to BCV. We ended up extending the car hire for the second week as well. The car just gave us the additional flexibility to come and go when we wanted.

I'm so confused about the Disney transportation system - as to whether its good or not! I certainly love the idea of arriving from the airport by Magical Express and one of the benefits of staying onsite is having the use of the transportation system (should technically be more relaxing than driving/finding a park etc) but then I read of people having cars and driving to the parks even if they are staying onsite ??

We did a mix of using the Disney transportation system and also driving ourselves. I got sick on holiday and by the time 2 pm came round, I was ready to crash! So, staying on site actually worked for us as it meant that I could head back and the rest of the family could decide what they wanted to do. Sometimes they came back with me; other times they stayed. I used the buses to get back to the resort on most days; and I waited about 10 - 15 minutes for the right bus (on average). Strangely, we didn't find the bus transportation as convenient at BCV as it was at POR; but I guess they thought that we could walk to Epcot and take the monorail to MK; and take the boat the HS.
We used ME for our departure and it was fantastically convenient!

Thanks so much for all of your advice and encouragement - I'm so pleased I posted :)

I'm happy to live vicariously through everyone else's holiday. My opinions are in blue. :laughing:

queenie82
05-30-2010, 06:51 AM
Yes, although I've only got one day planned for each of the four Disney parks, I had assumed we'd get a 5-day Park Hopper plus Water-parks etc so that we had another park day up our sleeves and could use the Disney water parks. We have been watching all the great videos on the Blizzard Beach and Typhoon Lagoon websites and my 12 year old is so keen to try Summit Plummet!
:rotfl2: wear boardshorts ;)

Also, I'd never even realised what Disney Quest was until I looked on the website and I actually think my DH would enjoy it as would our daughters.
I do enjoy it. Go EARLY if you can as it does get busy. It is a very popular night spot and the queues for things like pirates can get long. Now I would also say don't go early if it detracts from park time or water park time but the later it gets the busier it gets.

I thought that maybe we would go to Downtown Disney (by boat presuming we are staying at POR) on that first day to look around, start feeling the magic and visit Disney Quest. However, that is very interesting to hear that we may not be as jet-lagged as I'd thought so maybe we'd be okay to visit a park. Therefore your suggestions of getting a 10-day pass are well worth considering.

Yes while I do get tired on the first day...because you arrive at night you crash and then wake up fairly refreshed.

I had begun to wonder if there was actually any point getting a Park Hopper (I'm just in the habit of having one at Disneyland) but the idea of a water park in the morning and then perhaps over to a park late afternoon to catch the evening activities sounds a great option to have. I'm just really unsure of how much my family will physically be able to take each park day , expecially our youngest!

Park hopper has NOTHING to do with a water park and regular park on the same day.
When you get a water parks and more option it gives you access to Disney Quest and Water parks. This is separate to hopping between Epcot and Magic Kingdom.
I still think hopping is good. But this is partially because it allows you to make the most of emh. Early emh brings people into the parks. In the morning you get a lot done. But combining the extra onsite emh people to the rest of the offsite guests makes the park generally busier by the middle of the day.


I never intended to time our trip for the Epcot Food and Wine festival so that's a shame that it will make it a busier time. Can't do anything about that now though so will just have to plan around it and use all available resources to try and figure out which park will be best for each day. I am thrilled to be there at the time MNSSHP will be on though, as I've never done that before. We do trick or treat now here in N.Z. but it's not the same as when I would do it as a child living in the U.S. - it's not even dark here! It will be great for my girls to experience an American Halloween :)

How amazing that would be to be in Orlando when a rocket is launched at the Kennedy Space Centre! Gosh, I'd have one happy DH if I managed to schedule that into our itinerary (the scary cost of this trip might go down a bit easier) :thumbsup2 Does anyone know how far in advance they post their launch dates?
the last shuttle just landed. The Shuttle program has now ended. So what will happen now regarding launches is more unknown.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/26/AR2010052600917.html?hpid=moreheadlines
Even before this it was very difficult to time because they can get scratched regularly and the one we potentially could have seen but missed out on tickets for anyway (so didn't look into further) was scratched so we would have wasted a day.

By the way, the plan to move offsite for the second week is so that we can have a week in a Two-Bedroom type place giving us all a bit more space. Seven nights squeezed into one room at POR with my youngest on a trundle bed will be a challenge but I'm counting on the presumption that we'll hardly ever be in our rooms that week and we'll be so exhausted in the evenings, we'll all fall straight to sleep ;) - do you think this is right? We then will go onto the cruise ship where, whilst we will have two interconnecting cabins, we'll have two children with us in our cabin and our third child will be in the connecting cabin with my in-laws (meeting us to do the cruise as well as my brother-in-law, sister-in-law and niece). Plus we need to move offsite so that we can have a week of our U.S. holiday where we can have opportunity to have our U.S. junk food fix and eat at Taco Bell etc :rotfl:

By the way, we will have a rental car that second offsite week, but do you think it would be better to have it while we were staying onsite too? I'm so confused about the Disney transportation system - as to whether its good or not! I certainly love the idea of arriving from the airport by Magical Express and one of the benefits of staying onsite is having the use of the transportation system (should technically be more relaxing than driving/finding a park etc) but then I read of people having cars and driving to the parks even if they are staying onsite ??

Thanks so much for all of your advice and encouragement - I'm so pleased I posted :)

Get a car...for the whole time. The longer you have it the cheaper the per day rate. I hate disney transport :headache:
Ferries aren't too bad...but the buses are awful.
ALSO get a car at the airport if you can. Some families split up with one person getting the car and the other going to the accommodation on ME.
The reason to get it at the airport is you get a MUCH bigger selection of cars. You can pick the cleanest and one with the least miles. It will make the stay much more enjoyable with a newer car.

aussietravellers
05-30-2010, 07:20 AM
the last shuttle just landed. The Shuttle program has now ended. So what will happen now regarding launches is more unknown.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines
Even before this it was very difficult to time because they can get scratched regularly and the one we potentially could have seen but missed out on tickets for anyway (so didn't look into further) was scratched so we would have wasted a day.

Queenie the Shuttle program schedule was updated about 10 days ago and the remaining shuttle launches are still on the schedule.

There is not a plan to end the rocket launches. NASA will continue to launch rockets and they are already planned. Here is an article about the rocket launches from 5 days ago.
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/news/delta_50.html

Here is a their current schedule for the rockets for 2011
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html

It is true that there is a chance the launch can be changed due to weather and other delays but this isn't as common for rocket launches it seems. When we went our rocket launch did not change although it did look like it may, but didn't happen. We did end up organising to go a couple of days before just incase it did change, but it didn't and it was just fantastic!

Ms. Shuttergirl
05-30-2010, 07:28 AM
Queenie the Shuttle program schedule was updated about 10 days ago and the remaining shuttle launches are still on the schedule.

There is not a plan to end the rocket launches. NASA will continue to launch rockets and they are already planned. Here is an article about the rocket launches from 5 days ago.
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/news/delta_50.html

Here is a their current schedule for the rockets for 2011
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html

It is true that there is a chance the launch can be changed due to weather and other delays but this isn't as common for rocket launches it seems. When we went our rocket launch did not change although it did look like it may, but didn't happen. We did end up organising to go a couple of days before just incase it did change, but it didn't and it was just fantastic!

Thanks for that info aussietravellers. Just checked the dates for 2011 and it looks like the last one is late November which means we would miss out for a launch in December, but that's okay. I'm still excited for us to visit there.

aussietravellers
05-30-2010, 07:34 AM
Thanks for that info aussietravellers. Just checked the dates for 2011 and it looks like the last one is late November which means we would miss out for a launch in December, but that's okay. I'm still excited for us to visit there.

Ms.Shuttergirl, bookmark the page because the launches do get delayed. But the rocket program is not ending at this stage, maybe December isn't the best time to send a rocket into space :confused3 :rotfl: I'll keep my fingers crossed that it may change as it is really pretty cool watching it, thinking that you are watching that thing that is heading out into space.

PrincessInOz
05-30-2010, 07:40 AM
Apologies - I didn't mean to imply that the park hopper was the same as the water park. I meant that we have twice now bought 10 day plus park hopper tickets. We figured that we would potentially only visit a water park once in the 10 day period - and it was cheaper to buy 1 day separately at a water park rather than add the cost on top of the park hopper ticket.

Given that we have yet to visit a Disney Water Park, I guess we made the good decision both visits..:) We seriously contemplated adding the water park to this previous visit but given that we were staying at 5 nights at BCV, we had access to StormAlong Bay and that kept my son happy.

However, next time we go with our son, we will definitely be spending time at the water parks.

queenie82
05-30-2010, 07:40 AM
Queenie the Shuttle program schedule was updated about 10 days ago and the remaining shuttle launches are still on the schedule.

There is not a plan to end the rocket launches. NASA will continue to launch rockets and they are already planned. Here is an article about the rocket launches from 5 days ago.
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/news/delta_50.html

Here is a their current schedule for the rockets for 2011
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html

It is true that there is a chance the launch can be changed due to weather and other delays but this isn't as common for rocket launches it seems. When we went our rocket launch did not change although it did look like it may, but didn't happen. We did end up organising to go a couple of days before just incase it did change, but it didn't and it was just fantastic!
Queenie the rocket launches have not ended!

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/news/delta_50.html Article from 5 days ago! There are several rocket launches planned for 2011!

Also there are two more shuttle launches scheduled for this year. That article says So the other two shuttles are yet to make their final voyages (still doesn't help those going next year), but all launches have not ended. I am hoping that the Space Shuttle Discovery, which is due to launch on the 16th Sept will be delayed and we may get to see it.

Nothing in my post was INCORRECT!!

My point was that the shuttles have ended.
They have...
There are 2 lauches left...but that is it...and the program HAS ENDED.

My point was to emphasise it won't be a shuttle.
In my experience people say rocket assuming a shuttle these days.
So I wanted people to be aware there are no longer going to be any shuttle launches.

Please READ my post.
There was NO INCORRECT INFORMATION

queenie82
05-30-2010, 07:43 AM
First you say

t is true that there is a chance the launch can be changed due to weather and other delays but this isn't as common for rocket launches it seems.

Then suddenly it is this?
Ms.Shuttergirl, bookmark the page because the launches do get delayed. But the rocket program is not ending at this stage, maybe December isn't the best time to send a rocket into space :confused3 :rotfl: I'll keep my fingers crossed that it may change as it is really pretty cool watching it, thinking that you are watching that thing that is heading out into space.

:confused3:confused3

aussietravellers
05-30-2010, 07:56 AM
First you say
Then suddenly it is this?
:confused3:confused3

Your tone and manner really is unnecessary, often on these boards and I have no desire to enter into that sort of posting. I'll leave you on your own here :goodvibes

BecBennett
05-30-2010, 08:06 PM
Have you been able to find flights for the 1st of October (I don't mean book, just find) Just because it's been my experience that you wont get to Orlando until early on the 2nd - at the earliest. I will admit I haven't looked at Air NZ's flight schedules to see what time they get to LA, to be able to get a connecting flight, but from other airlines I've either looked at or flown with - Qantas, VAustralia, United etc. they get to LA in the arvo, and the only flight that day is a red eye - so it flies through the night, getting you there the following day.

I know this probably doesn't seem like a problem as your 2nd day is a rest day, but check in isn't until later in the day, and personally I'd like somewhere to go straight away - to shower and rest up. :confused3

This might all be moot because as I said, I don't know what air NZ is like... :laughing:

Jade+3
05-30-2010, 08:25 PM
We were at Epcot last year for F&W festival, and it was not busy at all. Apparently it does get busy with locals on the weekends, so we stuck with going during the week.

Travel Mum
05-30-2010, 09:25 PM
Have you been able to find flights for the 1st of October (I don't mean book, just find) Just because it's been my experience that you wont get to Orlando until early on the 2nd - at the earliest. I will admit I haven't looked at Air NZ's flight schedules to see what time they get to LA, to be able to get a connecting flight, but from other airlines I've either looked at or flown with - Qantas, VAustralia, United etc. they get to LA in the arvo, and the only flight that day is a red eye - so it flies through the night, getting you there the following day.

I know this probably doesn't seem like a problem as your 2nd day is a rest day, but check in isn't until later in the day, and personally I'd like somewhere to go straight away - to shower and rest up. :confused3

This might all be moot because as I said, I don't know what air NZ is like... :laughing:

At the moment, I'm basing it on the Qantas schedules for October this year. The flights from Auckland arrive into L.A. at 6.30 am currently allowing time to connect with American Airlines from L.A. to Orlando which gets in about 7pm Saturday night Orlando time. I know schedules may change so I have to be open to that beginning changing. I think I'd prefer to overnight at a LAX hotel and flying out the next morning rather than waiting around to catch that red-eye when travelling with our young children.

Many thanks for your advice :)

Travel Mum
05-30-2010, 09:29 PM
We were at Epcot last year for F&W festival, and it was not busy at all. Apparently it does get busy with locals on the weekends, so we stuck with going during the week.

Oh wow, that is great to know :thumbsup2 I've planned to steer clear of the parks on weekends anyway. However I do wonder if that is as necessary in Orlando as it is in L.A.? In L.A. so many locals come to the parks on the weekends in addition to the tourists whereas I wonder if, as Orlando has so many more tourists, does the addition of locals on the weekend make much difference (with the exception of the Epcot F+W) ?

Jade+3
05-30-2010, 09:35 PM
At the moment, I'm basing it on the Qantas schedules for October this year. The flights from Auckland arrive into L.A. at 6.30 am currently allowing time to connect with American Airlines from L.A. to Orlando which gets in about 7pm Saturday night Orlando time. I know schedules may change so I have to be open to that beginning changing. I think I'd prefer to overnight at a LAX hotel and flying out the next morning rather than waiting around to catch that red-eye when travelling with our young children.

Many thanks for your advice :)

We got into LA at 7am on a Friday. We stayed overnight by LAX, and got the red eye on the Saturday night to Orlando. My kids were 4, 3 and a baby. The mistake we made was that we could not check into out Orlando accommodation until 3pm (silly me booked the flight before seeing if we could add an extra day to our stay). The kids were not too bad as they slept on the flight, but DH and I were buggered. I have never been so tired. We had a really early night, and were fine in the morning to have breakfast at Chef Mickey.

aussietravellers
05-30-2010, 09:37 PM
We were at Epcot last year for F&W festival, and it was not busy at all. Apparently it does get busy with locals on the weekends, so we stuck with going during the week.

Oh Jade+3, thank you for posting this. We are going this year during F&W festival and our second part of the trip is at Beach Club and the first half is at AKL. We move over to BC a day before F&W starts, so we are having quite a few meals at Epcot because it's so close. I was trying to make ADR's for the first at the 180 day mark and couldn't get one restaurant at Epcot, not one, at any time! So I posted on the restaurant board thinking that was weird that on opening at the 180 day mark there was not one ADR at any restaurant at Epcot.

I got heaps of replies about it being F&W festival and will be so busy and they wouldn't be going near there etc. So we were sort of second guessing our plans, should we change the order of resorts around and be at AKL during the final part etc. But just decided to stick with everything the way it was but was sort of changing our plans.

But I am absolutely thrilled to hear your report! Thank you SO much. We will just stick to during the week and keep weekend plans away from Epcot.

:flower3:

Travel Mum
05-30-2010, 09:40 PM
Queenie and AussieTravellers, I'm sorry my post has caused a bit of grief between you two and I just want you to know that I really appreciate both of your great advice. Please don't stop passing on your advice as I'm lapping it all up and loving the learning :)

By the way, I went to the rocket launch link and, wouldn't you know it, there is a rocket launch scheduled for the week before we are due to arrive!! I'd love to be able to go a week earlier to be there for it but we just can't take our oldest daughter out of school any longer. We must work with the two-week school holiday and then just that one week prior as it will be her first year of high school. I have no such qualms about taking our younger two out of school but my daugther was advised the other day that missing 1 day of highschool is equivalent to a week of primary school, so she's told me it will be like her missing 5 weeks of school :confused: Yikes ! However, if they end up re-scheduling the rocket launch to either one or two weeks later, we'd be thrilled :rotfl:

Jade+3
05-30-2010, 09:40 PM
Oh wow, that is great to know :thumbsup2 I've planned to steer clear of the parks on weekends anyway. However I do wonder if that is as necessary in Orlando as it is in L.A.? In L.A. so many locals come to the parks on the weekends in addition to the tourists whereas I wonder if, as Orlando has so many more tourists, does the addition of locals on the weekend make much difference (with the exception of the Epcot F+W) ?

I think the F&W festival worked in our favour as there were so many more food options, that the regular food places were almost empty.

BTW, we only ate at CS places.

aussietravellers
05-30-2010, 09:50 PM
Queenie and AussieTravellers, I'm sorry my post has caused a bit of grief between you two and I just want you to know that I really appreciate both of your great advice. Please don't stop passing on your advice as I'm lapping it all up and loving the learning :)


:hug: You are so sweet for posting that! You do not need to be sorry for anything. :goodvibes

Jade+3
05-30-2010, 09:51 PM
Oh Jade+3, thank you for posting this. We are going this year during F&W festival and our second part of the trip is at Beach Club and the first half is at AKL. We move over to BC a day before F&W starts, so we are having quite a few meals at Epcot because it's so close. I was trying to make ADR's for the first at the 180 day mark and couldn't get one restaurant at Epcot, not one, at any time! So I posted on the restaurant board thinking that was weird that on opening at the 180 day mark there was not one ADR at any restaurant at Epcot.

I got heaps of replies about it being F&W festival and will be so busy and they wouldn't be going near there etc. So we were sort of second guessing our plans, should we change the order of resorts around and be at AKL during the final part etc. But just decided to stick with everything the way it was but was sort of changing our plans.

But I am absolutely thrilled to hear your report! Thank you SO much. We will just stick to during the week and keep weekend plans away from Epcot.

:flower3:

We got to Orlando on 20th October, and visited Epcot on Thursday and the following Monday. I picked the days based on the Touring Plans crowd calender. We had minimal waits for rides, but did use FP for Test Track and Soaring. Both days we had left by dinner time so did not see the night time crowds, but it was really quiet during the day. I thought it was a perfect time to go, with fantastic weather. I also did not have any problems getting an ADR for breakfast with the princesses.

queenie82
05-30-2010, 09:52 PM
One thing about F&W that affects accommodation is in regard to parking.
This is mainly an issue at Boardwalk.
The GUESTS will often not be able to get a parking space because inconsiderate pricks decided to park at he various Epcot resorts so they can walk over to Epcot through the international gateway.
I know trying to get a space in the middle of the day to late arvo at BW when were staying there was sometimes difficult which was a pain. It is so obvious it is park guests as there is no trouble after 9pm :rolleyes:

Anywho...my point about this is just a warning to those staying at the Epcot resorts. It is GREAT walking to Epcot for the F&W from there so if you are staying there be prepared for issues getting a space in the main lot if you come back from somewhere else.
[There is another overflow lot which the jerks not staying at that resort should be sent to but whether this will happen is never consistent.]

Also this would be a good idea
We got to Orlando on 20th October, and visited Epcot on Thursday and the following Monda. I picked the days based on the Touring Plans crowd calender. We had minimal waits for rides, but did use FP for Test Track and Soaring. Both days we had left by dinner time so did not see the night time crowds, but it was really quiet. I thought it was a perfect time to go, with fantastic weather. I also did not have any problems getting an ADR for breakfast with the princesses.
There have been situations where there start being drunks by around 8-9pm...so if you have young kids just watch out for this

Travel Mum
06-01-2010, 05:38 AM
Thanks for your input everyone - I'm learning so much and getting so excited! Please keep it coming if you think of anything else :goodvibes

cola
06-01-2010, 10:20 PM
Water parks, there is also Aquatica to consider. It's much newer than Wet'n'Wild.
Everyone does seem to rave about Discovery Cove and it counts as pretty much an active rest day.

I wasn't that fussed about SeaWorld last year, I was very disappointed with the Polar Bear display. Many of the animals were displaying that psychotic swimming exactly the same path again and again behaviour. You get that a bit at Animal Kingdom too, but it was really noticeable at Seaworld for almost all of the marine mammals. Most people seemed to think it was great, you knew exactly where the animal was going to swim up to for the photo opportunity. Ocean Park in Hong Kong does the seals and penguins much better. Also considering the ages of your children, SeaWorld seems to be going a bit for the thrill rides, like Manta. Lots of height restrictions to consider with those.

Don't forget Tampa isn't far to the west coast and Busch Gardens, again, a bit more thrill ride, but they do have a lot of other stuff you don't find in Orlando, plus you see the other side of Florida :) . The combined tickets with Universal and SeaWorld (Orlando Flexi Ticket Plus) make it a pretty cheap add on.....

Staying on property, you can get the tickets for length of stay, and if you do that they sometimes include meals, probably not with the F&W at the same time though. It depends on how the US economy is going next year. Length of stay tickets give you the extra day at the end, with park hopping etc. Park hopping is worth it for Animal Kingdom, go as early as possible (the one park where I will use EMH) the animals are more active, by midday, they are having a nap, so you can then go to another park, though with the queues for Expedition Everest, that could keep you busy all day :) I usually do AK in the morning and Hollywood Studios in the afternoon/evening. Don't miss Toy Story Mania! regardless of how long the queue is :)


MNSSHP is a separate ticket, so you could do that one 'rest day' the week you are off property, you can get in from 4pm for a couple of hours Magic Kingdom without the themeing and then they roll out the Halloween stuff while you are in there. I wouldn’t waste a ticket on a park during the day and then try and stay out for the whole MNSSHP.

Travel Mum
06-02-2010, 02:48 AM
MNSSHP is a separate ticket, so you could do that one 'rest day' the week you are off property, you can get in from 4pm for a couple of hours Magic Kingdom without the themeing and then they roll out the Halloween stuff while you are in there. I wouldn’t waste a ticket on a park during the day and then try and stay out for the whole MNSSHP.

Many thanks for all your great advice Cola and regarding the MNSSHP, I was thinking that, if it was scheduled for that night, it might be nice to go on our last night in Orlando so that we end that part of the trip in the Magic Kingdom. I definitely like the idea of going in to the park at 4pm to make the most of all the time :thumbsup2

Travel Mum
06-20-2010, 03:57 AM
We plan to arrive into Orlando on October 1 next year and, if they offer free dining in September like they have this year, I presumed we will have missed out or maybe got one night free, as its only for stays up until October 2. Well, I've just found out that, for this year anyway, as long as you check in by October 2, you will get free dining for the rest of your entire stay!!! So, fingers crossed they offer the same deal and conditions next year!

The only dilemma is that, because we will be staying at POR, a Moderate, you get free Regular Dining whereas, because I'm not interested in pre-booking meals, I'd only planned on us getting the Quick Service Dining Plan so we'll actually get more than we want! :rotfl: I do plan for us to do a couple of character breakfasts so we can use the TS credits for that on those days but, when we come back to POR from the parks exhausted and just want a quick meal, can you use TS credits for the QS meals? :confused3

PrincessInOz
06-20-2010, 04:39 AM
We plan to arrive into Orlando on October 1 next year and, if they offer free dining in September like they have this year, I presumed we will have missed out or maybe got one night free, as its only for stays up until October 2. Well, I've just found out that, for this year anyway, as long as you check in by October 2, you will get free dining for the rest of your entire stay!!! So, fingers crossed they offer the same deal and conditions next year!

The only dilemma is that, because we will be staying at POR, a Moderate, you get free Regular Dining whereas, because I'm not interested in pre-booking meals, I'd only planned on us getting the Quick Service Dining Plan so we'll actually get more than we want! :rotfl: I do plan for us to do a couple of character breakfasts so we can use the TS credits for that on those days but, when we come back to POR from the parks exhausted and just want a quick meal, can you use TS credits for the QS meals? :confused3

That's great! Nice to see that the T&C for free Dining could work out in your favour.

I understand that you can use TS credits for the QS meals -that's the way the Disney makes their money from the DP - by letting the CM at the register know that is what you want to do. It might be worth checking out what TS restaurants are part of the DP in DTD. Some of them don't take bookings; just walk up. You could always go to DTD direct from the parks and eat in the TS restaurants there and then catch the boat back to POR.

The other thing is that POR has it's own TS restaurant - Boatwrights on site. Might be worth checking out their menu as well. It was never fully busy when we got 'home'.

Travel Mum
06-20-2010, 11:52 PM
Thanks for your advice as always, Princess in Oz :). When you were staying at POR, you were on the Dining Plan weren't you? Were you on the Regular plan or the Quick Service?

PrincessInOz
06-21-2010, 01:11 AM
Thanks for your advice as always, Princess in Oz :). When you were staying at POR, you were on the Dining Plan weren't you? Were you on the Regular plan or the Quick Service?

I was on QS. It was great to have the flexibility to eat at Counter Service places and not be tied to ADRs; but I must admit that the 'fast food' wore thin after a while. And this was for only 5 days! I'd recommend researching the various Counter Service menus at each park so that you know what you are prepared to eat. And pick at least 3 CS places at each park so that you have somewhere to go irrespective of where you are in the park. That way, you're not having to walk back and forth from one end to the other :thumbsup2.

queenie82
06-21-2010, 01:43 AM
There are great counter service like the land where the quality is really high and the range fantastic (it will please EVERYONE)
But depending on what character meals you are into Cinderella requires 2 TS credits so if you want that it will eat into you credits more quickly.

The best way I think to do things is to do character breakfasts. So you don't have to worry about getting to later meals. So dinner will be a quick and easy meal.
It fills you up for the day so we would typically have a snack around 2-3ish and then a CS dinner later.
Crystal Palace puts you in the MK. As does Tusker House (putting you inside AK.)
my fav 1900 gets you great character interactions with HTF characters in the parks saving you time tracking them down.

You aren't there that many nights so you will most likely use all the TS as TS anyway.

PrincessInOz
06-21-2010, 01:48 AM
There are great counter service like the land where the quality is really high and the range fantastic (it will please EVERYONE)
But depending on what character meals you are into Cinderella requires 2 TS credits so if you want that it will eat into you credits more quickly.

The best way I think to do things is to do character breakfasts. So you don't have to worry about getting to later meals. So dinner will be a quick and easy meal.
It fills you up for the day so we would typically have a snack around 2-3ish and then a CS dinner later.
Crystal Palace puts you in the MK. As does Tusker House (putting you inside AK.)
my fav 1900 gets you great character interactions with HTF characters in the parks saving you time tracking them down.

You aren't there that many nights so you will most likely use all the TS as TS anyway.

Welcome back!! Work settled down?

Travel Mum
06-21-2010, 02:37 AM
There are great counter service like the land where the quality is really high and the range fantastic (it will please EVERYONE)
But depending on what character meals you are into Cinderella requires 2 TS credits so if you want that it will eat into you credits more quickly.

The best way I think to do things is to do character breakfasts. So you don't have to worry about getting to later meals. So dinner will be a quick and easy meal.
It fills you up for the day so we would typically have a snack around 2-3ish and then a CS dinner later.
Crystal Palace puts you in the MK. As does Tusker House (putting you inside AK.)
my fav 1900 gets you great character interactions with HTF characters in the parks saving you time tracking them down.

You aren't there that many nights so you will most likely use all the TS as TS anyway.

Regardless of what Dining plan we are on, I've had already planned to do a Character breakfast at Crystal Palace in order to get into MK early and one at Tusker House to get into AK early. I also want to do a lunch at Sci-Fi Diner when we are at HS. So that's 3 TS meals that I'd planned to pay for extra on top of the QS Dining Plan. I guess that being on the Regular Dining Plan means that those meals would be included in that. I haven't looked into 1900 but will do so as that sounds good :)

Travel Mum
06-21-2010, 02:43 AM
I'd recommend researching the various Counter Service menus at each park so that you know what you are prepared to eat. And pick at least 3 CS places at each park so that you have somewhere to go irrespective of where you are in the park. That way, you're not having to walk back and forth from one end to the other :thumbsup2.

Yes, sounds like researching it all in advance is the way to go! I don't mind pre-planning character breakfasts but I just don't want to have to committ to any dinners as I don't know how exhausted the children will be, especially our 6 year-old. I'm aware that we do have a pretty demanding park schedule and will have to really maximise each day at the parks. I actually can't quite imagine the pace of it all as, in the past, I've only every done the two Disney Anaheim Parks over a week with lots of breaks! We might have to do some physical training before we go :rotfl2:

queenie82
06-21-2010, 05:38 AM
Welcome back!! Work settled down?Let's just say it is all a relative thing :lmao::lmao:

Regardless of what Dining plan we are on, I've had already planned to do a Character breakfast at Crystal Palace in order to get into MK early and one at Tusker House to get into AK early. I also want to do a lunch at Sci-Fi Diner when we are at HS. So that's 3 TS meals that I'd planned to pay for extra on top of the QS Dining Plan. I guess that being on the Regular Dining Plan means that those meals would be included in that. I haven't looked into 1900 but will do so as that sounds good :)Yep...this is just my point. :goodvibes
It isn't like you are on a 2 week stay at one resort so there are 14 TS to use.
I completely understand dinners and so on. Being 'grown ups' :rolleyes1 we had quite a few for places but I still prefer breakfasts unless there is something special on the dinner menu. :thumbsup2 Even adults get tired.
The only difference is that feeding them while sitting down helps calm them :rotfl2:

But yeah. It is quite possible that you could find enough breakfasts or not?
It is possible there won't even be free dining. And it is possible it WILL be QS even if it is there. The rules and inclusions will more than likely change in 2011. So while there is year on year 'consistency' just be ready for anything. A 40% pin may well be the best thing for you if you can try and get one.
:wizard:

Travel Mum
06-21-2010, 05:48 AM
. A 40% pin may well be the best thing for you if you can try and get one.
:wizard:

Yes, you are right, this is all totally subject to the new 2011 offers so I better not spend too much time researching this for now!

Queenie, what is a 40% pin and how do you get one? :confused3

queenie82
06-21-2010, 06:30 AM
Yes, you are right, this is all totally subject to the new 2011 offers so I better not spend too much time researching this for now!

Queenie, what is a 40% pin and how do you get one? :confused3
Oh keep researching so you know what to grab when offers do appear!!!
It took quite some time to work out where we really wanted to eat...what plan to go with etc. 1900 was a place I decided on just before the 90 day window came up to fill our ADRs and it is now a fav!
So...lots of researching :rotfl: :thumbsup2

Pin code info....
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2465579
Ask here for more info...it's all too confusing for me :lmao:

battymum
06-21-2010, 07:59 PM
Travelmum - what is your budget for this trip - we are looking at doing the same thing at that time, have the same problem as you only wanting to take eldest from school for 1 week - family of five - will $20K aust cover it?
The only addition is I would like to stop over for 1-2 nights in San Francisco on the way back to break up the long haul. It is really hard to make firm plans without knowing flight prices / schedules.

Travel Mum
06-21-2010, 08:53 PM
Hi Batty Mum, I'm finding it very hard to work out how much it will cost because the airfares are so variable. Unfortunately, we will be departing during the Rugby World Cup time so, whilst there are normally quite good airline specials for Sep/Oct departures, I fear there won't be any next year :( Also it will all depend on the Disney rates as to whether or not we can afford to stay on site so all this Dining Plan talk might be irrelevent in the end! The only thing I do already know is the cost of the cruise as we have booked and deposited for that.

It will probably cost us more than 20K NZ$, but you could probably do it in Aussie dollars as you are more likely to get cheaper airfares than us.

battymum
06-23-2010, 08:01 PM
You really do need 12months + to plan dont you! This is a whole new world for me - I am still trying to decipher all the acronymns used on these boards. Is it important to stay site? I have been looking at some great condos that look beautiful and much more spacious with cooking / washing facilities and they are much better priced. Would we really be missing out by not staying on site. My children will be 16, 14, 14 so it would be really too crowded in a single hotel room. We will probably get a car and I am assuming there are supermarkets so can get some holiday supplies, fast food for two weeks doesnt appeal to me, but the fam would probably disagree.

DVCAustralia
06-23-2010, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by battyman
You really do need 12months + to plan dont you! This is a whole new world for me - I am still trying to decipher all the acronymns used on these boards. Is it important to stay site? I have been looking at some great condos that look beautiful and much more spacious with cooking / washing facilities and they are much better priced. Would we really be missing out by not staying on site. My children will be 16, 14, 14 so it would be really too crowded in a single hotel room. We will probably get a car and I am assuming there are supermarkets so can get some holiday supplies, fast food for two weeks doesnt appeal to me, but the fam would probably disagree.

There is nothing wrong with off-site, in fact we did it a few times until our last stay on site with DVC. Indeed there would not be SO many options off-site if they were not used, however make sure you check out various properties and reviews such as on trip advisor. It all comes down to personal preference, how much time you have and what you intend to do whilst there.
If you are off-site you MUST budget for car rental from the airport and parking at the parks.
You are correct that there are supermarkets as well as Walmart for supplies.