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05-15-2010, 10:02 PM
Just back from disney and my son's fav ride this time was Splash mountain. He keeps asking me to tell him the story. I was wonering if anybody knows where you can get a copy of song of the south???

05-16-2010, 01:12 AM
I don't think it's available in the US, but I can't confirm. That's what I've heard on the boards here but I haven't tried to look myself.

05-16-2010, 01:20 AM
I would try ebay

05-16-2010, 01:46 AM
It wasn't available on Amazon, but if you google it several sites come up that you can order it from. HTH!

05-16-2010, 02:12 AM
I don't believe it was ever released in the U.S on vhs or dvd (I thought I heard it was available at one time on laser disc) I purchased mine about 8 years ago on ebay from the UK. It was in pal format so I had to convert it. IMO, it was well worth the $'s for the family to enjoy this Disney classic.

05-16-2010, 02:30 AM
I can get you a copy, but they only sell them around Thanksgiving at a "gift/craft show" here where I live. I think they are DVD and $5-20. I almost bought a few last year to put on ebay. If you pm me your email address, I can get back to you 6 months from now. I have seen them at the gift fair several years in a row now.

05-16-2010, 02:44 AM
It will probably be easier to get a copy of the book. I checked ebay and you can buy the VHS there, but make sure it is in the right format for the country in which you live...

I grew up with the book "Uncle Remus Stories" so when they opened Splash Mountain when I was about 10 I was super excited about it. It is a really good ride based on a really good story. The book has been released under other titles over the years... "Uncle Remus, his songs and his sayings," "Tales of Uncle Remus." As far as I know, they are the EXACT same stories, they just have different covers since they were published under different publishers over the years.

The movie, Song of the South, is based on the story about the Tar Baby in the book. Also, B'rer means brother... the stories are written in a southern slave dialect.


Here's the text of the book. You can also watch the movie on YouTube.

Metro West
05-16-2010, 07:00 PM
I remember going to the movies to see this when I was a kid in the 1970's...you know...before we knew the movie was bad. :rolleyes:

05-20-2010, 12:36 PM
This was the first movie I saw in a theater. It isn't the very best Disney film, but it is worth seeing. I think that, despite the continued refusals of the company to date, Disney will eventually release the movie in some official form. When, I couldn't say -- I just hope it is in my lifetime, even if just for sentimental reasons.

Buckeye Princess
05-20-2010, 10:30 PM
I've told my husband several times that getting me this movie would be THE BEST christmas/birthday/etc present. Don't have the equipment to convert from a foreign format so he'll have to find one that is already converted.

05-21-2010, 09:49 AM
My guess is that Disney is too "politically correct" to ever release the movie on their own.

05-21-2010, 09:59 AM
I bought it on laser disc for a friend in 1995 while I was in Japan. I tried finding it on VHS for myself at the time, but couldn't find it.

05-22-2010, 11:24 PM
Google and you'll find it. Don't pay too much, I think they are all essentially the same. :earsboy:

05-23-2010, 08:22 AM
I believe I got my copy from ebay several years ago.

Also, at the store at the end of Splash Mountain they sell a few of the Uncle Remus books. I got one years ago at Disneyland.

My boys love them.


05-29-2010, 01:14 PM
I did an internet search a few years ago and bought a copy off of someones website. I believe it was around 10 bucks. I was also curious about the movie, I thought it was good overall, glad I saw it.

05-29-2010, 10:29 PM
Not sure I'd show it to a 4-year-old. A teen, maybe, for the purposes of discussion; but not a 4-year-old. It's incredibly racist.

05-30-2010, 10:39 AM
I have a copy - can't remember where I got it; I think it was a converted-from-European-format copy from eBay. The quality is wretched, but at least I have it.

That said, I wouldn't work really hard to find it for a small child either. Not only because of the racist issues; but mostly because small kids find the parts "in between" the cartoon bits to be terribly boring. I have watched it with DD6 and DD9. We had a frank discussion of slavery and about it being wrong, also about the movie being made a long time ago when people didn't believe they way we do now. It really didn't matter though, because they were both so bored by the live-action parts that they wandered off to do something else and only came back when the cartoons were on.

Ron from Michigan
06-01-2010, 09:08 AM
I bought a good copy on e-bay last year.

11-13-2010, 11:48 PM
Ok, just got back from the Christmas Gift show... they have copies of The Song of the South there for $39.95. They had one playing on the TV in the booth and it was good quality. I didn't buy any tonight, but I can go back tomorrow and buy one for somebody. I would sell on ebay for 40.

12-13-2010, 03:20 PM
love that song!

12-13-2010, 04:02 PM
I know the video it's up in Youtube. :) Just type in "The Song of the South" and you'll see it there fully. It's the only way I managed to see it. Couldn't find it anywhere else. I really do hope Disney releases it on video.

Good Luck!

12-13-2010, 04:42 PM
Not sure I'd show it to a 4-year-old. A teen, maybe, for the purposes of discussion; but not a 4-year-old. It's incredibly racist.

Maybe the back story of why the stories were written in the first place would help it seem less racist.

I live in the town where Joel Chandler Harris was born and raised. In other words, the place that is the origin of the Uncle Remus stories. Harris felt a duty to write the stories down that he heard from former slaves that were working on his parent's property when he was growing up. He thought the stories were too good to be lost to history. So he wrote them down. Uncle Remus was not a real man; he is a compilation of several real people that Harris knew and cared great deal for. I never knew this until I visited the Uncle Remus museum in our town. We are very proud of Harris and the wonderful stories of people that are nameless but much a part of our history.

I do understand that the climate of the time was racist, but Harris was actually trying to save these great stories so that futur generations could hear them, read them, and, now, see them in movie form.

12-16-2010, 01:47 AM
I think you can get it on yahoo radio music..

12-17-2010, 04:55 AM
It's one of my favorite song. I love to watch this song most of the time. It's really superb..!! :cool1::cool1:

12-21-2010, 05:11 PM
My guess is that Disney is too "politically correct" to ever release the movie on their own.


12-21-2010, 06:49 PM
I have a copy on DVD, DBF bought it for me for Christmas a few years ago. It is one of my absolute favorites. We watched it with the kids as soon as we could after I opened it, we did not find it terribly racist or insulting. Yes it is racist Uncle Remus is a slave, but he's treated very well and the kids love his stories. I think my girls were 8 & 11 when I got it and they totally understood. They asked questions when they had them and we answered them honestly. It's a favorite movie here. :)
I really don't know where DBF got it but I'm sure it's a pirated copy, it does have occasional tracking lines in it, he said he only paid around $20 for it and I think he said he got it online from a place in Canada.

Merry Mousketeer
01-04-2011, 12:58 PM
At the California State Fair this past summer there was a vendor selling copies of "Song of the South" and other movies not available in the U.S. He was British, so I am assuming all the movies he was selling were pirated copies.

For what it's worth, "Song of the South" is set in the post-Civil War period during the Reconstruction. So, Uncle Remus and the others are not slaves but are sharecroppers. However, I don't think the average viewer would know this.

01-04-2011, 02:38 PM
Not racist at all, anyone who thinks it is needs to actually watch the movie.

01-06-2011, 08:18 AM
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01-11-2011, 09:04 AM
Walt Disney took special care when making this movie so it wouldn't be offensive. Messages are lost from books when made into movies and he knew this. I haven't read the books but it seemed the story was cleansed for the times (released in '46 I believe).
I think the problem nowadays is that the slaves, or sharecroppers (you can't tell from the movie if it was before or after the Civil War) are happy and jolly. Of course we all know that it wasn't that way at all.
My kids see a story about a rich privileged boy who learns some values through the friendship and stories of Uncle Remus, who won an honorary academy award for his roles in the movie.

01-11-2011, 02:52 PM
I saw a clip from it and it seems good from that but never have seen the full movie, only a small clip.

Rupert B Puppenstein
01-13-2011, 04:58 PM
My guess is that Disney is too "politically correct" to ever release the movie on their own.

That is the main reason it hasn't been released after the time it was actually released on VHS. There was too much uproar from those who are politically correct to realize that it was made in a different time and could actually serve as a history lesson rather than something that was made to hurt others. It is still my favorite movie and I wish that Disney would not let so many people intimidate them.

Times have changed...and frankly it wouldn't be bad to release a movie that clearly shows that.

01-21-2011, 05:16 PM
They should absolutely release this movie. It was one of my favorites growing up, the music is fabulous. Times have changed and when I watched it with my kids we discussed slavery etc. They loved it and the stories. Whats the saying "Those who wont learn from history are doomed to repeat it?"

Thanks to the poster who told the back story of the author and how he was preserving actual stories. very interesting and all the more reason to release this movie.

01-25-2011, 10:52 AM
I know this may sound silly or even ignorant but if you find a copy of SOtS (I found several DVD's of it when I searched) is it legal to buy them? I mean I seriously would love the movie but I don't want to do something illegal to get them :confused3.

03-08-2011, 02:40 PM
Hey Everyone,

I'm new to Disboards.com.

Regarding getting a DVD copy of Song of the South, I suggest checking on ebay. I remember seeing the movie for sale on their. It's not available for sale in the US. It was released in Japan on Laserdisc many years ago. Hopefully soon The Disney Company will release this amazing movie. I still cry when I watch this wonderful heartwarming family film. I believe the film has so much to offer to anyone who watches it. The Song of the South film was way ahead of it's time. God bless Walt Disney and his talented team!

03-08-2011, 10:29 PM
Considering the official Disney stance on this movie I'm still not sure how it became and still is the theme behind the Splash Mountain ride?

03-12-2011, 02:26 PM
I did buy a copy off of the internet for $10. Also will buy a new copy when Disney releases it again. It becomes public domain in 2039, so your grandchildren will definitely know who brer rabbit is! I am sure Disney will want to make their bucks on it before then. You can add your name to the request list on Amazon. At some point maybe Disney will see that they are missing some profit and quietly (as possible) release it on DVD. It is a shame that it has not been enjoyed in the US since 1986, its last release -in theaters only.

As far as racist and happy slaves...slavery and reconstruction and sharecropping (essentially still living in poverty) were a real thing and are an important lesson from our past. Sweeping things under the carpet is really not the best way to handle this subject. My children picked up right away the difference between the raggedy clothing vs the velvets and lace. Don't forget the "white trash" neighbors down the road either, they picked up on that as well. Especially the sacrifice of Jenny's mother for her to have a dress to go to the party at the grand house. Probably a fairly accurate picture of that time period in the south.

The negro spirituals gave me scalp tingle (in a good way) and the lessons that Uncle Remus taught clearly cut across race and status level, as all 3 children (the privileged white boy, the poor white girl and the black boy) learn how to use their wits to outsmart and outfox bullies, like brer rabbit does with brer fox and brer bear! You will probably want your kids to be a mature 6 or 7 before watching it so they get the non-animated parts. If they are much younger the storyline will be lost on them and they will be bored, although they will enjoy the cartoon parts.

03-21-2011, 04:26 PM
A couple of years ago during a visit with my uncle in law (now passed away) he popped in a VHS that he had this movie on. When I got home I did a search on it and bought a copy online. It was from the UK. It is a great copy and my children loved it.
It has been said that the NAACP was in a uproar about this movie when it came out because of the portrayal of the "slaves" singing happy songs. Although "slaves" did sing during those times. Because of this I do not see this movie being released anytime soon in the US

03-25-2011, 10:07 AM
Considering the official Disney stance on this movie I'm still not sure how it became and still is the theme behind the Splash Mountain ride?
It's my understanding that the aspect of the movie that Splash Mountain is based on has nothing to do with the objectionable parts of Song of the South, which I believe relate more to the live-action parts.

I would personally be interested in watching this movie, but I know it will probably difficult to find.

03-26-2011, 11:02 PM
The last time I saw this movie I was 7 or 8. I was curious to see if I missed something that made it racist since Disney hasn't rereleased it. I was able to find it on youtube. I found it to be a cute movie. I personally didn't think there was anything wrong with it. I'm not really sure where the controversy comes from. Uncle Remus seems like a very nice friend and neighbour to the family of the main character. They don't seem to treat him badly. All of his stories explain some moral lesson he wants to pass on to the children. I think I read somewhere that many of the stories used in this movie are based on real folktales passed down through the generations which I thought was an interesting tidbit of information. The parts with live action seem a little slow for todays kids. Maybe one day they will do a version with just all the cartoons on it.

03-27-2011, 08:49 AM
From a newspaper article from 2007, Is Song of the South too racist to screen?:

"Back in the day, Song of the South might conceivably have been read as a warm-hearted salute to America's 'coloureds'. Since then it's become a shameful embarrassment for the company, the equivalent of a racist old relation who can't be introduced to polite company. In depicting a (literally) fabulous Deep South strung sometime between slavery and Reconstruction, the film trades in a dubious form of myth-making - implying that African-Americans stuck below the Mason-Dixon line were a cheerful bunch who liked nothing better than going fishing, spinning tall tales and looking after white folks' kids.

"When he's not waxing lyrical about 'tar babies', Uncle Remus explains why he likes 'Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah Days .... Dat's the kinda day when you can't open yo mouf without a song jumpin' right out of it.' Thus Song of the South reheats the old canard about how slaves can't really be so miserable because, my, just listen to them sing in that cottonfield.

"Annoyingly this cosy misconception had already been nailed by Frederick Douglass way back in the 19th-century. 'I have often been utterly astonished, since I came to the north, to find persons who could speak of the singing, among slaves, as evidence of their contentment and happiness,' Douglass wrote. 'It is impossible to conceive of a greater mistake. Slaves sing most when they are most unhappy.'"