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DisneyAl
03-06-2001, 09:37 AM
Has anyone else been irritated by having to walk way out to find a place to park. Would it not be better if guests staying there would use their room key (like at Vero) to park in the closest lot. As it is now anyone can park there once passed the entrance.

bicker
03-06-2001, 09:44 AM
It's even worse when there just aren't any parking spots.

Brian Charles Kohn
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spiceycat
03-06-2001, 09:46 AM
kept in mind that the BWV shares the parking with BWI (conventions) - when it first opened you did have to use your key to get in this parking. But the way I understand it (may have got the whole story wrong) the people in the conventions complainted about not being able to use the parking lot - so the thing was taken down. They are making money off the conventions. I do not think they will change it very easily. However complaint to the hotel - on the form that is in your room.

AnnK
03-06-2001, 09:49 AM
I love BW, it is my home resort. I feel that a gate across the GUEST parking would be a great investment, that would keep spots open for people who are STAYING at BW, so that you can CHOOSE to self -park or valet. We usually valet, but sometimes when we are know we are going to go back out we will self-park. The problem is that you have all these people who are NOT STAYING at the BW parked in OUR parking lot.
The lot for guests is located in the front by the guards, but you see them pass right through as if they are going to valet, then they park in our lot. I can't tell you how many people I see returning from the parks and heading right into our parking area. The problem is so bad, even Yacht and Beach has a sign telling people that they don't have parking for the parks, that it is for guests only.
I have e-mailed MS , and I will continue until they do something to keep those who are not staying at BW out of our lot.

drusba
03-06-2001, 09:52 AM
The problem can get bad even though there is a second (but distant) lot across the street. However, I doubt any cure is in sight. The convention issue I was not aware of but makes sense. Also, unlike any other resort, the boardwalk is itself considered a Disney attraction open to the public and thus I seriously doubt they will create any restrictions. We generally use valet parking which avoids the problem.

NJmouse
03-06-2001, 10:16 AM
We use valet all the time. We are on vacation and don't need to be "hunting for a parking spot"
this time is used for other Disney pleasures. Also if we know we are going back out in less then 10 mins. we tell the valet attendent and they usually just park the car right out front (on the side there are some spaces). Met some nice CM on the valet front. We call down from the room before we leave and wa-lah the car is waiting for us with the air on. Oh how nice not to get in a hot car!

dvc_john
03-06-2001, 11:11 AM
I complained about this issue at the annual meeting in Dec 1999, and got little response. I prefer self-parking, but if you are coming back to BWV at 8 or 9 at night, you might as well forget about finding a parking space. After Illuminations, streams of people head straight from EPCOT to the parking lot.

Two possible solutions:

1) Make parking free at the regular lots for those with Florida resident passes. This would take away some of the incentive for locals with Florida resident passes to try to park at BW for free.

2) Charge $10 for parking for non-BWV/BWI guests, but give out a $10 dated coupon for use at any BW restaurant. That way, legitimate guests going out to eat will have free parking, and cheaters will have to pay.

AnnK
03-06-2001, 11:30 AM
I agree that you are on vacation. That is why we usually valet our car. I just feel that since the parking is for GUESTS who are staying at BW it's parking spots should be READILY available for anyone who is staying at BW to park their car if that is what they choose to do. It bothers me that these freeloaders don't want to pay the 6.00, or are just to lazy to park and ride the tram will park at my resort and take spots for those who have invested in the LOCATION of BW.
A person who has the "non-preferred view" is actually closer to the self-parking lot, than they are to the main entrance, and it is a much shorter walk if you can find a spot to park.
Conventions may make money, but while we were there I did not see anyone in the convention hall, or any activity over there what-so-ever. The Contemporary has effectively shut down the "park and walk to "MK the Yacht and Beach isn't allowing anyone to use their guest parking. I realize that BW is an entertainment area, they have parking for the people who wish to visit, it's located right next to the guard booth. It's a matter of enforcing the parking restrictions. On my last trip we self-parked because we knew we were going to the airport to pick people up. On our way down ONE aisle we found only THREE cars that had the BWV pass! Three out of how many?????? It's outrageous. Then as you head to your room you hear people as they are returning to their cars in our parking lot saying how they are headed back to their hotel to go in the pool/hot tub. If someone wants to park at BWV and slither into the parks,then so be it, just don't park in the area reserved for the "GUESTS" staying at the BWV's.

PamOKW
03-06-2001, 11:53 AM
There should be guaranteed parking for guests of BWV and BWI...no question. BUT, they have built parking lots that are much larger than that and they encourage valet parking. BW is a convention center and a destination and they have included parking for those. Going to Epcot and then spending a few more hours at BW is enouraged. I also feel that as long as the public is able to park at BW that all member DVC resort guests should be given first dibs on that parking over any other WDW guest.

I have seen cars turned away at Christmastime. I'm not sure why but I assume they were non-WDW resort guests.

Peterd
03-06-2001, 12:26 PM
Dvcjohn, That would be a great idea about the $10 dollar voucher. We just stayed at the Hard Rock Hotel in Universal before moving over to the Boardwalk. The way the Hard Rock discouraged the parking and walking to the parks for visitors was to have gates at the guests parking, I believe that you can only valet park, and the price to park was at least double the parking at the parks, and went up with the longer you stayed. I could be wrong about the self parking there, but we couldn't find a parking lot there without a gate that didn't need a room key.
We valet about 80% of the time. I have also pulled up to the main entrance of the Boardwalk, and parked to the left of the building if it was for about a 5 to 10 minute stop to pick up our party before leaving. I wouldn't do it for any longer than that, because that's not what those spots are primarily for. When we do self park, it is a nice short walk to the rooms by the quiet pool and community hall. It is rather annoying to not find a spot in the self parking area, and then notice that the other cars parked there, not only do not have BW parking papers in their windows, but don't even have any of the other disney resort parking papers in their windows.
We also experienced this at the OKW, where you couldn't find any parking near the main pool. Sometimes, I would drop the kids off, and circle the parking lot for about 10 minutes waiting for a spot. We would drive from our room because I feel the roads in OKW are too busy for our kids. Our "adult" niece almost got taken out one time by one of the buses,(her fault though). Later that day, on the boat to Downtown Disney, we met a family not staying at OKW OR onsite, using the boat because they didn't like the chaos of parking at Downtown Disney. Remember those keys we were supposed to use for Disney transportion? I haven't had to show mine in about 8 years.
I'm all for gates for guest parking at the resorts. Even the Coronado Springs has it. We used to park at the Contemporary, go to MK, then to Chef Mickey's at night. You can't do this anymore, because of the Guest's complaints. I can't blame them. How many complaints does it take before they put the gate back up? Welcome visitors, just park in visitors parking!

PamOKW
03-06-2001, 12:41 PM
Something else that would help the parking problem would be to improve the transportation to and from BW especially in the evening. I would take the bus back to OKW but the times I've done it the trip tends to take well over an hour. First, you wait with large crowds for a bus to DD. Then, you get off at DD and wait sometimes as long as half an hour for a bus to OKW. Next you take the tour through traffic of PI and Westside finally heading to OKW. This is way too long at the end of a long day. To pick up the car from the valet and to drive to "home" at OKW takes less than 10 minutes. In fact, BW has become about the only place I do drive to regularly just because getting back home by bus is so incredibly difficult.

AnnK
03-06-2001, 02:00 PM
Yes there is parking for those who wish to "visit" BW. It is located by the guard booth. I have no problem with those who visit the BW and park in the appropriate lot.
I have not seen enough conventions going on when I have stayed to justify the parking lot being so full. I don't see why the convention people cannot be handed a key that would get them through the gate.I have however seen MANY people who are just using the BW to park and go to the parks. They do not stop at the restaurants, they are just there to park. These are the people that I want to have park in the lot reserved just for them! It may be a longer distance to walk, but what do you want for free? I saw a young couple pull in, first the thought they would park in the handicap area, then they drove over and parked in the "guest" lot, when they should have parked in the "visitor" lot. I am certain that each guest when they pull in are told where they are supposed to park, it's just that they choose to ignore it.
I for one will continue to pursue a change in policy. I would like a gate, but I feel the above suggestions would also deter people from using the BW as an alternative parking lot.

tiggersnj
03-06-2001, 02:22 PM
I believe drusba is correct. The boardwalk is considered an attraction, therefore, they have to provide parking. I'm sure there is a solution but unfortunately, I can't think of one. A gate at the front lot for guest staying at boardwalk seems fair to me.

DebbieB
03-06-2001, 02:47 PM
After the Annual BWV meeting in December, members had a chance to individually talk to the managers. I spoke to the BW Manager about this very issue. I was ticked off because the night before we returned about 8:00pm and found a spot at the very end of the lot only when someone pulled out. The part that made me mad is that as we walked back through the lot, I noticed that almost every car did not have ANY Disney Resort Parking Pass. Which meant they were not staying at any Disney Resort. I suggested a separate lot (or part of the lot) for BW hotel guests and he told me that it would not be fesible, they are limited on space. He did say that the guards are supposed to direct people across the street when the lot gets full, I suggested that non-guests be directed there first. He acknowledged that it is a problem but since Boardwalk is a public area, there's not much they can do about it. He suggested using the free valet parking.

spruce
03-06-2001, 02:47 PM
How about a visitor entrance that leads directly and only to visitor parking. Anyone not a guest or using valet would then be directed to that area by the guards and not permitted past the gate...spruce

Offsite 87,92,97,00
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DI 98
Vero 98
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DCL 98,01

Peterd
03-06-2001, 02:55 PM
I'm all for it Spruce, and since they are making so much money from these visitors, they should use the money to run a small shuttle back and forth to the visitor's lot. I also like the idea of the 10 dollar voucher talked about above, kind of like in the Atlantic City casinos where you have to get validated before you leave, or pay the parking fee, whatever it is.

nuthut
03-06-2001, 02:58 PM
Another great reason to stay at OKW! Where you can park in front of your door.

Peterd
03-06-2001, 03:03 PM
WOW, I'm surprised it took you that long. Thanks for your input. It really added to the topic.

nickglover
03-08-2001, 07:27 AM
Is the valet parking at BWV free if you are staying at OKW? (except for a tip, of course)

Richyams
03-08-2001, 07:29 AM
Valet parking is free at any hotel for any WDW resort guest. A tip is always nice.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx, pretty sick, huh?

DisneyAl
03-08-2001, 08:58 AM
How much do you tip for valet parking and how long does it take to get your car when you use it?

kem330
03-08-2001, 09:28 AM
We tip $2. We always call 5-10 minutes before leaving our room and car is ready for us (usually). You could wait anywhere from 5- 20 minutes depending on how busy they are if you don't call ahead.

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AnnK
03-08-2001, 09:32 AM
DisAL,
We usually valet the car. ( As I stated earlier.) I enjoy not having to worry. Tha main reason I rant about the parking is becasue I feel it SHOULD be readily available for ANY GUEST should they choose to self-park.
We usually tip $3-5 in each direction, because it's not the same person parking your car, and bringing your car. The nice thing about valet is that you can call the front before you leave your room, give them your number, and by the time you get to the entrance it is usually sitting there waiting for you! :)

Zimbubba
03-08-2001, 11:26 AM
Charging will not keep people away. They will always find a way around it. We go there from OKW to stroll the boardwalk, eat in the restaurants, etc.

They obviously underestimated parking.’

DisneyAl
03-08-2001, 11:54 AM
What can we do to try to get the parking improved?

spiceycat
03-08-2001, 11:56 AM
I generally tip $1.00 and it depends on how far the drivers (runners) have to go - generally no more than 10 minutes maximum (and that was when they were parking in the same lot we are discussing) - last time it was more earlier (like may 2 minutes), but I think it was being parking in the handicap (?) section.

KNWVIKING
03-08-2001, 04:08 PM
There is no easy answer for BW parking because Disney encourages public access similar to DD. I believe a separate lot for room keyholders is ideal solution and it should be the closest lot availible.PETERD made comment about showing ID to get on Disney transport: My wife + I have discussed several times about how if we were kids living in Orlando area,we would simply go to DD,hop on any resort bus and head straight to the pools & hot tubes.In '95,our 1st trip,I remember showing ID,but haven't since.I will admit,we stay at OKW but sometimes park at BWV to go to Epcot, especially for dinner.

rbuzzotta
03-08-2001, 05:38 PM
Our first trip to BWV will be in July and we will be driving from Boston. Any advice on parking? We will be staying in a 2 BR Preferred view. Will this be further from the parking lot? It sounds like valet parking is the way to go! Do you tip both times, when you get your car and when you return your car? Thanks...

Rosemary
Off-site every year since 1985
PO '96, '97, '99
Coronado '00
WL '94, '00
CB '98
VB '97, '98, '00
DVC member '00 OKW
DxL '97, '01
BWV '01

RoseNJ
03-08-2001, 07:24 PM
First of all, I am so excited to see a neighbor from Vineland NJ posting here! I thought I might be the lone Cumberland County DVCer. Last summer we almost always valet parked without incident except when we were leaving to go to the airport. They lost our keys! It took the manager and most of the runners close to an hour to find where someone had misplaced them. Word of warning...if you are driving your own car, have your second set of keys with you. We made the flight, but it was not pleasant to stand for an hour while wondering what had happened.

drusba
03-09-2001, 07:41 AM
rbuzzota, the parking lot is actually a hike to the hotel no matter where you park; there is also a second parking lot across the street which is even further away. If you are near the very end of the resort that points toward MGM, which is also near the tennis courts, and park on the southwest end of the lot that lines up with the tennis courts, then you might be a little closer to your car from the rooms in that area (standard or preferred) but it really does not make that much difference. We use valet, which makes it very convenient. We follow a rule to tip ($3) only when your car is retrieved not when you drop it off -- that is the practice generally followed by business travelers everywhere (and that is regardless of whether you will have a different person coming and going). However, you will see many here saying they tip both ways and some mentioning that they tip a lot more than we do. Thus, you really have choices and do what you feel comfortable with. (My usual tipping rule is to tip at that level which matches the amount of guilt I can tolerate for not having tipped more, and I have a very high tolerance for guilt.) When leaving the hotel, you can call down and ask for the car and it will usually be there about the time you get down.

[This message was edited by drusba on 03-09-01 at 10:51 AM.]

TampaDisneyFreaks
03-09-2001, 10:24 AM
I agree that parking at BWV is a problem. We own at BWV and frequently go there (we are only 1 and quarter hour away) just to stroll the BW and have dinner. Occasionally we meet friends there and do stuff on the BW AND myabe go to EPCOT for a little bit. If going to EPCOT for whole day, we park at EPCOT (we have Prem. AP's and get free parking anyway, but they DON'T give us a parking tag). However, when we go to BW to just do the stuff at the BW, we tell the guard that and they point us to the main self park lot. I was not aware that the lot behind the guard station (when coming in) was for self park/ day guests. I thought that was part of valet parking. We used to always self park, but our first trip as DVC member s we parked in the main lot and the Mickey Head was stolen off of our car antenna the first day. We valet parked the rest of the trip ($2 tip). We will valet park if staying there, but self park (and take our mickey head off the antenna) for day visits

KNWVIKING
03-09-2001, 10:24 AM
I'm trying to find out if you went to high school in Millville, if you did we might know each other because we would have graduated together in '77.

rbuzzotta
03-09-2001, 10:59 AM
Thanks for the info. drusba! I think we will just valet park. We are hoping to have my stepson join us on this trip and being a party of 6 (one under 3) I can already hear all the whining and moaning with the extra walking to the car.

We leave for DxL (on points) in 10 days. Won't be soon enough since we are expecting another foot of snow tonight..on top of 14 inches we got Tuesday!

Sunshine, here we come!

Rosemary
Off-site every year since 1985
PO '96, '97, '99
Coronado '00
WL '94, '00
CB '98
VB '97, '98, '00
DVC member '00 OKW
DxL '97, '01
BWV '01

BobH
03-09-2001, 11:22 AM
Use the valet parking and get out right at the door. For a couple of dollars as a tip it is well worth it. Treat yourself!

baileybrad
03-09-2001, 08:20 PM
The parking set-up, free valet and all, is the reason that we have no intention of staying at this resort as DVC members. It is a hassle no matter what you do if you use your vehicle alot. I would hope that something that improvements could be made to make things easier on the guests that are actually staying at the resort. But, that being said, many folks swear by this resort so I suppose you have to take the bad with the good and the parking is definitely bad if you use your car a bunch. And lets face it the valet parking is not really "free".

Peterd
03-10-2001, 08:56 AM
The parking isn't really soooo bad as to not stay there. It's just the one thing that, after a 10 or more day stay, could get annoying sometimes.
If the parking is the only thing I can complain about, I'm pretty lucky. A room away from the elevator? We just go out a different exit. We're on vacation, a little walking never hurt anyone.
I just wish they would put up a gate at the guest parking. That would fix the whole problem. We valet most of the time, but sometimes when you go in and out a lot, you just want to self park.
I've seen people make the left at the tennis courts, see they couldn't get into the valet parking spots, drive onto the walkway looking for a closer spot. I'm glad to see they put up a gate for service vehicles only now. They even put rocks around the gate, so people wouldn't try to drive around the gate on the grass.
We used to go to the Contemp., go to MK, then to Chef Mickeys afterwards. They put an end to this. I think you get a 3 hour parking pass now?
As for the Bw parking, I don't have a problem with Okw or Wl members parking in the guest parking, because it can't be that many, and even though they don't own there, they're members there. I just think the visitors and other resort guests, should park in the visitor's parking. They say they're trying to sell the Boardwalk as an entertainment area. Since they're making money on it, money that doesn't decrease dues but goes right in their pocket, they could run a small tram/bus from the visitor's parking area.

Peterd
03-14-2001, 07:18 PM
If any DVC member cares. We've been waiting for a reply from DVC about the parking for almost 4 months. They called again today, about one of my recent emails about the Parking for guests only. I said don't tell us about the free valet, because they lost our car in Oct. for almost two hours, making us miss our resv. for dinner. Like they always say, "We'll look into it and get back to you". This was the third time they have called to tell me this. They also said not enough people have complained about this in their phone calls and email from the DVC site. Well here's your chance if this bothers anyone else. Email them and let them know. dvc.ms9800@disney.com

I also sent this whole thread to them. Hope it makes them at least think about it.

[This message was edited by Peterd on 03-14-01 at 10:30 PM.]

bicker
03-15-2001, 05:34 AM
Personally, I don't know if it is in our best interests to make the BoardWalk a less attractive destination for non-resort guests. That status might some significant impact on the routing of any new monorail track that Disney eventually lays, and the rumors were that since the BoardWalk was a destination that guests from around the resort would want to visit, there would be a monorail stop (on the way from Epcot to D-MGM) at the BoardWalk. Making it more difficult for non-resort guests to visit the BoardWalk would damage the success of the BoardWalk restaurant, shops, etc., and that would in turn reduce the BoardWalk's status as a destination within the resort, and consequently make it less likely that a monorail stop will be erected there.

Brian Charles Kohn
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Some Imagination, huh? - Mickey Mouse