Jack at Haunted Mansion?

[Cobra B.]

Has anyone heard if A Nightmare Before Christmas will be at WDW Haunted Mansion this year? I kinda remember there was a chance it would get added this coming Halloween?

[OrlandoMike]

Has anyone heard if A Nightmare Before Christmas will be at WDW Haunted Mansion this year? I kinda remember there was a chance it would get added this coming Halloween?

I doubt it will ever happen. WDW is a destination resort, as DL is more of a community resort. WDW does not need anything to draw guests for that time period like DL does.

[nytimez]

As I understand it, a "Nightmare" makeover of Haunted Mansion was offered to WDW years ago, when they created it for DL. WDW said no, so the setup went to Tokyo instead -- where you can still see it today during their Halloween celebrations. I actually saw it there last year, it truly is a fantastic makeover of the ride.

[Micca]

As I understand it, a "Nightmare" makeover of Haunted Mansion was offered to WDW years ago, when they created it for DL. WDW said no, so the setup went to Tokyo instead -- where you can still see it today during their Halloween celebrations. I actually saw it there last year, it truly is a fantastic makeover of the ride.

I'm not the biggest NBC fan, but I saw the DLR makeover a few years ago and was blown away. I expected a few cosmetic changes but experienced what was nearly a completely new experience. I actually like the NBC movie more after having experienced this. I sure wouldn't want to change HM permanently, but jeez that was cool:thumbsup2

[yitbos96bb]

As I understand it, a "Nightmare" makeover of Haunted Mansion was offered to WDW years ago, when they created it for DL. WDW said no, so the setup went to Tokyo instead -- where you can still see it today during their Halloween celebrations. I actually saw it there last year, it truly is a fantastic makeover of the ride.

THat's a shame and very shortsighted. Sigh, "leadership" at WDW has been really bad for the last 10 years.

[Kaewin]

Damn, and we like Nightmare too.

[OrlandoMike]

THat's a shame and very shortsighted. Sigh, "leadership" at WDW has been really bad for the last 10 years.

You have to remember, the MK is a buisness. Why close an attraction for weeks to do an overlay that is not necessary? DL needed something to get guests into the park in what is usually a slow season.....MK doesnt need this, so why spend the money? :confused3

[yitbos96bb]

You have to remember, the MK is a buisness. Why close an attraction for weeks to do an overlay that is not necessary? DL needed something to get guests into the park in what is usually a slow season.....MK doesnt need this, so why spend the money? :confused3

We'll have to agree to disagree on the business merits. I personally feel that is a shortsighted POV and closing in September to bring in an overlay that is special and could potentially bring in new guests during several slow times from the oct 1 to Dec31 period.

[Maistre Gracey]

we'll have to agree to disagree on the business merits. I personally feel that is a shortsighted pov and closing in september to bring in an overlay that is special and could potentially bring in new guests during several slow times from the oct 1 to dec31 period.
+1

mg

[OrlandoMike]

We'll have to agree to disagree on the business merits. I personally feel that is a shortsighted POV and closing in September to bring in an overlay that is special and could potentially bring in new guests during several slow times from the oct 1 to Dec31 period.

You would also have a lot of angry guests during the weeks before and after the overlay due to the attraction being closed for instalation and the removal.

Between the Halloween parties, and the Christmas parties, and Thanksgiving weekend, there are enough things going on in the world to attract guests during that time frame. A NBC overlay is not going to bring enough guests to warrent the cost.

[Cobra B.]

You have to remember, the MK is a buisness. Why close an attraction for weeks to do an overlay that is not necessary? DL needed something to get guests into the park in what is usually a slow season.....MK doesnt need this, so why spend the money? :confused3

Well they are taking down It's A Small World for an extended period so maybe they can add Nightmare to that?? Now that sounds fun!:laughing: ;) :thumbsup2

[yitbos96bb]

You would also have a lot of angry guests during the weeks before and after the overlay due to the attraction being closed for instalation and the removal.

Between the Halloween parties, and the Christmas parties, and Thanksgiving weekend, there are enough things going on in the world to attract guests during that time frame. A NBC overlay is not going to bring enough guests to warrent the cost.

Well, you can't really say that as there is no way to prove either way whether it would bring in guests or not. Without doing it, we just don't know.

As for the shutting down, most of the times I have seen HM shutdown for Refurb is either September (to be ready for October) or in January. People will always complain about shutdown rides... the trick is to limit the schedule... so having Haunted Mansion down is ok; having Space Mountain, Big THunder Mountain, POTC and HM down is BAD.

As I said, differences of opinion. Neither of us is going to convince the other they are correct and unfortunately, the only way to do so is to actually do it, which we know ISNT ever going to happen.

I guess my point is that Disney keeps raising prices while cutting services. It's already straining many people. Since 1998, ticket prices have more than doubled. It took the first 27 years to reach that level in the first place (although part of that was the A-E ticket system). The ticket growth over the last decade has been unprecedented. If it continues this way (and so far signs are pointing to yes) Disney will start to price themselves out as people won't view as high the value for dollars spent. Things like these special overlays increase that perceived value.

Hey I'm not the only one that feels this way about Disney's prices for the current value... Pete has ranted on it numerous times. Sadly for those of us who go to Orlando, Management at Disney World seems to be far inferior to the management at Disneyland. Just my humble opinion.

[yitbos96bb]

Well they are taking down It's A Small World for an extended period so maybe they can add Nightmare to that?? Now that sounds fun!:laughing: ;) :thumbsup2

I miss the Country Bears Christmas Overlay. I wish they'd do a new one with either some public domain songs or with songs not under copyright. Unfortunately, I'm afraid Disney will kill that attraction completely. It's dead at DL, we'll see if WDW follows. As cheesy as it is, I still enjoy going.

[Judy from Boise]

I love the NBC overlay at DL, but agree it makes no sense for WDW, and would needlessly disappoint many people who are making those "once in a lifetime" trips. Maybe just having it at DLR will convince more people to make a visit to the other coast, where they will NOT be disappointed.

[ConcKahuna]

I was told that the rehab of HM included adding the fixtures for the Nightmare additions. There were no specific plans to actually do the Nightmare decorations, but they wanted to be able to if the decision was changed.

[disneyphilip]

I miss the Country Bears Christmas Overlay. I wish they'd do a new one with either some public domain songs or with songs not under copyright. Unfortunately, I'm afraid Disney will kill that attraction completely. It's dead at DL, we'll see if WDW follows. As cheesy as it is, I still enjoy going.

Sorry, but I can't see WDW eliminating the CBJ anytime soon.

However, I do agree that that show's Xmas overlay does need to return indeed.

Let's hope it happens this year. With all the construction going on in the MK, especially in Fantasyland, they do need to give the guests a reason to keep visiting that park, even while the construction is going on.

[TinkerKell-ey]

I love the NBC overlay at DL, but agree it makes no sense for WDW, and would needlessly disappoint many people who are making those "once in a lifetime" trips. Maybe just having it at DLR will convince more people to make a visit to the other coast, where they will NOT be disappointed.

I totally agree. We've been to DL once. It was in the month of Nov. and we did HM with the NBC overlay many times. It was cool, but as HM is one of my favorites, I kept thinking ahead to "next time" when all the stuff was down so I could really compare it to WDW's HM ! Really, NBC just wasn't a huge hit for Disney (compared to say Lion King) and just doesn't have a broad appeal . . . and WDW has to appeal to a "broader" audience then DL and if they did the overlay would probably have more guests saying "what the heck is this???" than "cool . . . "

[mjecson]

Well nothing is fixed yet but it is unpredictable that anytime it will be declared that jack is in the film or not. So that can be the unpredictable story for us and whatever they will make, we will see and get the enjoyment weather the jack will there or not.

[ConcKahuna]

Really, NBC just wasn't a huge hit for Disney (compared to say Lion King) and just doesn't have a broad appeal . . .

NBC has a HUGE global appeal, especially with the teens and young adults. While the theatrical releases may not have made huge profits, the merchandise has always sold well, and was frequently even found in stores like Hot Topic before Disney started re-marketing it.

If anything, NBC has a much broader appeal than most Disney movies, which cater more directly to children.

[TinkerKell-ey]

NBC has a HUGE global appeal, especially with the teens and young adults. While the theatrical releases may not have made huge profits, the merchandise has always sold well, and was frequently even found in stores like Hot Topic before Disney started re-marketing it.

If anything, NBC has a much broader appeal than most Disney movies, which cater more directly to children.

Sorry, I just disagree...it seems WDW does too :confused3 --at least so far. Remember too, that an entire resort has been influenced by a 'children's movie' -- Animal Kingdom Villas (and some would argue, AKL as a whole).

[ConcKahuna]

Sorry, I just disagree...it seems WDW does too :confused3 --at least so far. Remember too, that an entire resort has been influenced by a 'children's movie' -- Animal Kingdom Villas (and some would argue, AKL as a whole).

What 'children's movie' is that themed on???

[TinkerKell-ey]

The same one I mentioned above. Kidani Village (aka Animal Kingdom Villas) is covered in Lion King references-inside and out. And it's fabulous:thumbsup2

[Maistre Gracey]

Sorry, I just disagree...it seems WDW does too :confused3 --at least so far. Remember too, that an entire resort has been influenced by a 'children's movie' -- Animal Kingdom Villas (and some would argue, AKL as a whole).

The same one I mentioned above. Kidani Village (aka Animal Kingdom Villas) is covered in Lion King references-inside and out. And it's fabulous:thumbsup2
I have stayed at Jambo and Kidani many times, and I've never noticed any Lion King influence. Not saying it's not there, but it can't be too prevalent if I've never noticed it.

MG

[TinkerKell-ey]

You're kidding right??? In Kidani rooms, scenes from the LK are on the bathroom tiles, embossed on the curtains, carved into the furniture, etc. Elevators/areas are named for the characters... there's a start. I said "influenced" -- I certainly didn't mean "shoved down your throat tacky and obvious", but it's definitely there. Remember Lion King released in 1994 and the setting was an African savanna. It was a HUGE success. AK opened in 1998-I believe, then AKL in 2001...means absolutely nothing right?? Just coincidence I guess... (BTW, I do love your name Maistre Gracey...can't imagine what "influenced" that (smile).

[santadog]

You would also have a lot of angry guests during the weeks before and after the overlay due to the attraction being closed for instalation and the removal.

Last time we were there, the wait for HM was never over 20 minutes - the ride is not that big of an attraction, I don't see to many people getting that upset. (BTW, it's far and away my favorite ride from all 4 parks).
The closing of TSM in August and the several months the Star Tours will be down will have far more impact, I think.
IMHO the Haunted Mansion Holiday would be huge in Orlando.

...A NBC overlay is not going to bring enough guests to warrent the cost.

The merchandise sales would more than make up for it!


NBC has a HUGE global appeal, especially with the teens and young adults....


Sorry, I just disagree...

I don't: whenever I am wearing my DLR Haunted Mansion Holiday sweatshirt, I get comments along the lines of "I Love that movie" or "that's my favorite movie"

[Bork]

Last time we were there, the wait for HM was never over 20 minutes - the ride is not that big of an attraction, I don't see to many people getting that upset. (BTW, it's far and away my favorite ride from all 4 parks).
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The wait is so short because it is one of the highest capacity rides at WDW, 3200 people per hour. That is 700 more people per hour than space mountain. Don't confuse lack of line for lack of popularity.

[Ericadawn]

If it's not that popular, why does Disney have special NBC merchandise areas in every park of WDW?

You can get NBC everything from pins to hats to your very own urn!

I also see people wearing NBC merchandise on every single visit and we typically go at least once a week.

[onnawufei]

Well they are taking down It's A Small World for an extended period so maybe they can add Nightmare to that?? Now that sounds fun!:laughing: ;) :thumbsup2That would actually get me on It's A Small World again. ;)

Maybe just having it at DLR will convince more people to make a visit to the other coast, where they will NOT be disappointed.For a while now my DH and I have discussed going to Disneyland specifically to see Haunted Holiday, so I agree there.

[OrlandoMike]

The closing of TSM in August and the several months the Star Tours will be down will have far more impact, I think.

And you have to remember, the TSM and ST rehabs are permanent, not Holiday overlays.

[santadog]

And you have to remember, the TSM and ST rehabs are permanent, not Holiday overlays.

I realize that, my point was closing Haunted Mansion for 3 weeks would have less of an impact than closing 1/2 of the most popular rides at DHS, no matter of the changes are permanent or temporary.

[MPwifey]

OMG!!! My favorite ride isn't at WDW??? NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I was planning on riding that at least twice when I go to MNSSHP. Man, I am really glad I played hooky last year one day to go meet Jack and Sally in person during October. That trip is my favorite trip ever to Disney. My then 2 year old DD LOVED that overlay on HM, whereas she was scared on regular HM.

Well, I guess now I will have more time at MNSSHP to do other things. :scared1: