NEW WDW Housing???

[Mai Ku Tiki]

I remember rumors a few yrs ago of a new housing development on Disney property (along with more shopping areas) :confused3 But haven't seen any updates...This was to be several types of homes/condos (like Celebration) maybe even including 55+ areas?? Anyone know what is happening??? Getting closer to planning our escape from Joisey!!! :woohoo:

[CanadianGuy]

There are partial homes (ie: timeshare type things) and full time living homes planned in the Four Seasons Golf & Resort area currently under construction.

I hope you have a nice source of big time cash.. these homes will be nutso priced.

K

[Mai Ku Tiki]

There are partial homes (ie: timeshare type things) and full time living homes planned in the Four Seasons Golf & Resort area currently under construction.

I hope you have a nice source of big time cash.. these homes will be nutso priced.

K


:rotfl2: Cash??? What's that??? No! But a dream IS a wish.........Any idea where I can find more info???:flower3:

[CanadianGuy]

:rotfl2: Cash??? What's that??? No! But a dream IS a wish.........Any idea where I can find more info???:flower3:

I don't and a quick Google doesn't reveal sales information or anything like that yet.

There is this stuff from before..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17403324/

[chartle]

I remember rumors a few yrs ago of a new housing development on Disney property (along with more shopping areas) :confused3 But haven't seen any updates...This was to be several types of homes/condos (like Celebration) maybe even including 55+ areas?? Anyone know what is happening??? Getting closer to planning our escape from Joisey!!! :woohoo:

I think you are referring to Flamingo Crossings (http://www.flamingocrossings.com/index.html) and here is why you haven't heard too much.

http://thedailydisney.com/blog/2009/11/sagging-economy-slows-plans-for-flamingo-crossings-at-disney/

[Mai Ku Tiki]

yes, I think that is the area but I thought there were to be some residential communities as well...Guess everything is in a holding pattern..... Thanks!! :flower3:

[loveysbydesign]

I think you are referring to Flamingo Crossings (http://www.flamingocrossings.com/index.html) and here is why you haven't heard too much.

http://thedailydisney.com/blog/2009/11/sagging-economy-slows-plans-for-flamingo-crossings-at-disney/
Thanks for that link...very interesting and exciting news!:thumbsup2

[yitbos96bb]

There are partial homes (ie: timeshare type things) and full time living homes planned in the Four Seasons Golf & Resort area currently under construction.

I hope you have a nice source of big time cash.. these homes will be nutso priced.

K

I'd love to own one though. Rent it out for a while and then retire in Orlando!

[CanadianGuy]

I think you are referring to Flamingo Crossings (http://www.flamingocrossings.com/index.html) and here is why you haven't heard too much.

http://thedailydisney.com/blog/2009/11/sagging-economy-slows-plans-for-flamingo-crossings-at-disney/

Flamingo Crossings is a separate development from the Four Seasons residential development. Big time.

[Mai Ku Tiki]

I cintinued my search & located a bit of updated info online...seems you are very correct about cash being needed, CanadianGuy!! The (only) 30-50 homes to be built are proposed to be offered in the 7 figure range :sad2:

And I saw something that the new Four Seasons would somehow be available thru DVC or with DVC pts???:confused3


:flower3:

[doconeill]

And I saw something that the new Four Seasons would somehow be available thru DVC or with DVC pts???:confused3


:flower3:

I haven't heard anything like that. In general, you can't trade in/out of DVC with other local resorts.

Perhaps the confusion is that Eagle Pines was originally slated for a DVC resort, until they decided to rebuilt the Disney Institute instead?

[Mai Ku Tiki]

we have to wait & see...your idea re: Eagle Pines & DVC sounds right, though, doconeill....:flower3:

[squirrel]

Someone else with Aug 1999 as their start date!

Do you think you joined the Dis before Aug? I'm trying to find out if our join dates were reset to Aug or if they just added the Join date in Aug and everyone that was register was given Aug.

I know I was on the Dis before Aug. but it was a long time ago now and I can't remember why it says Aug.

[Mai Ku Tiki]

Hi squirrel! Yes, I joined the second yr Pete began the DIS. That was long ago, once upon a time. Then came the great shift/purge/meltdown that resulted in joining dates being reset (or caused many of us to need to 're-join'. Can't remember what exactly occurred but it was sad for me as all prior record of my existence was wiped out! :sad1:

ps...can ya speak to your friends about staying out of my birdfeeder??? :laughing:

:flower3:

[Mai Ku Tiki]

seems Flamingo Crossing is different from the Four Seasons residential area...unless you have more info??:confused3

[raidermatt]

Unless something has changed recently, Flamingo Crossings is meant to be an area aimed at the "budget-minded" (Disney's word, not mine), with retail and hotel/motel space. Disney would be leasing the space to other companies. I don't remember anything being said about residences in that area.

The Four Seasons deal was a combo of leased and sold land that Four Seasons would develop. There will be a resort, fractional ownership homes, and a new golf course (that's why Disney's Eagle Pines course was closed). From the sounds of it, Four Seasons would run everything and there was no indication of what kind of access, if any, other Disney guests would have to the property and its amenities.

Not a big fan of either as I'd prefer Disney actually develop its land as opposed to selling and leasing it to others, but that's an old and pointless argument.

[Mai Ku Tiki]

Not a big fan of either as I'd prefer Disney actually develop its land as opposed to selling and leasing it to others, but that's an old and pointless argument.


Old but I still would prefer this too! :goodvibes

:flower3:

[Jenn4615]

Hi squirrel! Yes, I joined the second yr Pete began the DIS. That was long ago, once upon a time. Then came the great shift/purge/meltdown that resulted in joining dates being reset (or caused many of us to need to 're-join'. Can't remember what exactly occurred but it was sad for me as all prior record of my existence was wiped out! :sad1:


:flower3:

I haven't been on here since 1999 but since 2004 and one day my hundreds and hundreds of posts poofed down to 16... do they do that? Wipe out old threads?

[Mai Ku Tiki]

Sorry, Jenn4615, I don't have the answer...maybe contact Admin???:confused:

[CanadianGuy]

I haven't been on here since 1999 but since 2004 and one day my hundreds and hundreds of posts poofed down to 16... do they do that? Wipe out old threads?

I wasn't on the DIS then but this happened to EVERYONE back in 1999 or there abouts.. technical issue..

It's become a bit of a urban legend around here.. I'm sure Webmaster Alex could tell us why -- but I do know it happened to lots of folks.

[CanadianGuy]

Unless something has changed recently, Flamingo Crossings is meant to be an area aimed at the "budget-minded" (Disney's word, not mine), with retail and hotel/motel space. Disney would be leasing the space to other companies. I don't remember anything being said about residences in that area.

The Four Seasons deal was a combo of leased and sold land that Four Seasons would develop. There will be a resort, fractional ownership homes, and a new golf course (that's why Disney's Eagle Pines course was closed). From the sounds of it, Four Seasons would run everything and there was no indication of what kind of access, if any, other Disney guests would have to the property and its amenities.

Not a big fan of either as I'd prefer Disney actually develop its land as opposed to selling and leasing it to others, but that's an old and pointless argument.

What he said.. with the addition that, IIRC, some of the homes were NOT fractional but 'full time living'..

[Judy from Boise]

I wasn't on the DIS then but this happened to EVERYONE back in 1999 or there abouts.. technical issue..

It's become a bit of a urban legend around here.. I'm sure Webmaster Alex could tell us why -- but I do know it happened to lots of folks.

I think we just migrated to a new server? Or maybe that is when we switched to vbullitin? Prior o that wasn't it the old fashioned "threaded" discussion format? I think I lost over 7k.

[skiingfast]

seems Flamingo Crossing is different from the Four Seasons residential area...unless you have more info??:confused3

http://corporate.disney.go.com/corporate/moreinfo/four_seasons030207.html

The Header says it all.

[Mai Ku Tiki]

Thanks for the info....guess it is all just in 'wait & see' mode?? I do wonder if they will proceed with fractional ownership idea...Lighthouse Key is also fractional & it seems they are now renting nightly for very low fees. I had thought they were to attract a 'luxury' clientele' but I could be way off base.

:flower3:

[skiingfast]

It's hard to say what there are going to build in the end at Flamingo Crossing. All I have heard is that they have graded the area and started laying roads.

[doconeill]

It's hard to say what there are going to build in the end at Flamingo Crossing. All I have heard is that they have graded the area and started laying roads.

They aren't building anything...yet. They completed preparation, but apparently pretty much all deals have fallen through or been postponed, so there is nothing to build right now.

[skiingfast]

They aren't building anything...yet. They completed preparation, but apparently pretty much all deals have fallen through or been postponed, so there is nothing to build right now.

http://thedailydisney.com/blog/2009/11/sagging-economy-slows-plans-for-flamingo-crossings-at-disney/

[doconeill]

http://thedailydisney.com/blog/2009/11/sagging-economy-slows-plans-for-flamingo-crossings-at-disney/

Exactly. And until they start actually building something, the use of the area is, shall we say, "fluid" :)

[skiingfast]

Exactly. And until they start actually building something, the use of the area is, shall we say, "fluid" :)

Fluid? Holy crap! it's beyond the canal sytem and flooding?

[seashoreCM]

I don't think there are going to be any communities with year round residents within the same city or town that the theme parks and Disney's resorts are within.

Citizens at large are not going to be voting or electing officials to govern said jurisdiction.

It appears to me that there is additional adjacent Disney owned land that could be annexed by the Town of Celebration should there be a need or desire to expand said experimental prototype community of tomorrow.

Disney hints: http://www.cockam.com/disney.htm

[skiingfast]

In Flamingo Crossing I'm not sure anything will be sold. It sounds like it is a partnership Disney/4S that will lease the buildings to residents/guest and merchants.

From what I understand the homes for sale will be built around the golf course that will be where the four seasons hotel is. All property owners including the owners of these will have a voting rights with the Reedy Creek improvement district. However WDW is about 25000 acres and I imagine the disney company still will, forever, be voting for the quarter which is wilderness preserved. Which is say 6000 votes and they are selling a big piece of land but it's only 900 acres. They may not parcel out any bigger areas ever.

Still I would guess that the reason they are selling and not leasing has to do with a previous disney relationship who is also an owner of the 4 seasons.

Or it could be for profit. I had read a Disney comment where they value their land at 5M an acre.

[OrlandoMike]

From what I understand the homes for sale will be built around the golf course that will be where the four seasons hotel is. All property owners including the owners of these will have a voting rights with the Reedy Creek improvement district.

The land where the Four Seasons and the homes are to be built was de-annexed out of Reedy Creek, and are now part of Orange County.

[skiingfast]

The land where the Four Seasons and the homes are to be built was de-annexed out of Reedy Creek, and are now part of Orange County.

Where did you see that it was annexed into Orange County? Do you have a link you could site?

[OrlandoMike]

Where did you see that it was annexed into Orange County? Do you have a link you could site?

It's pretty commen knowledge.....


http://www.mouseplanet.com/8091/Walt_Disney_World_Park_Update

[skiingfast]

It's pretty commen knowledge.....


http://www.mouseplanet.com/8091/Walt_Disney_World_Park_Update

Perhaps if you live in Orlando area it is. As a Moderator try to have some perspective that your view isn't the only one.