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alyssa810
03-26-2010, 09:42 AM
I just listened to the part of the podcast where they talked about kids and leashes, and I felt like the words were right from my mouth!! We never wanted to be "those" parents, but after our last WDW trip, we're really considering it because DS too, is a runner-awayer, and we're headed to DLP in June.
I've also learned -since becoming a parent- to not criticize others' (except for my SIL who is an idiot:rotfl: and not on the boards LOL) parenting techniques.
PEANUT1
03-26-2010, 09:49 AM
so true!! we used one on our 2 year old. It was cute and pink and looked like a little shoulder purse. It unclipped very easily and she liked keeping toys in the bag. To each his own.:thumbsup2
dpuck1998
03-26-2010, 09:54 AM
I use one of those on the ski slopes :) But other than that my kids can hold my hand. I understand that some people need them, but like anything else we can talk about, they are abused by a few parents that don't need them. However, like is often discussed, the same is true for wheelchairs, scooters, etc. We can't tell by looking if a certain kid needs one for a reason (autism, etc) so I assume each parent has a valid reason. Do I need one, no, but if you do need one, go for it.
Matt@WDWR
03-26-2010, 09:55 AM
I don't really believe in leashes. However, our almost 2 year old needs to be put in a kennel when in public. hahaha She is the only one of our 3 who have ever been holy terrors. haha
Becx N Gav
03-26-2010, 10:08 AM
If my parents had not had one of these for my younger brother I don't think he would have made it to school age :rotfl: Anywhere he could go he would go, infact even past 3-4 he was a nightmare.
At least you know where your child is, if/when we have a little one I wouldn't hesitate to use a leash if it was needed :thumbsup2
SaraMc
03-26-2010, 10:43 AM
I have to say that I totally agree with the podcast crew. Each parent is going to do it diffrent because each child is diffrent. DS wasnt a runner, but more a easily distracted wanderer. We got the monkey for him and he wore it. Holding on to our hand and the loop of the tail on one of our hands. He's much older now and doesnt need the monkey. But still has it and plays with it like its one of his stuffed friends.
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UrsulasShadow
03-26-2010, 10:45 AM
Hey, as long as the leash isn't attached to a choke chain....no harm, no foul.
dpuck1998
03-26-2010, 10:58 AM
Hey, as long as the leash isn't attached to a choke chain....no harm, no foul.
Ohhh.....now you tell me....I was using a pinch collar....is that ok?
wishspirit
03-26-2010, 11:06 AM
As most of you know, I work with children with special needs, so these are quite common with the kids I work with.
A lot of them are runners, and you never know when a main road may attract them! Plus many of them look like 'normal' children, but they do have special needs which need extra help and support with/
To those who are 'against' leashes (although I don't think that's the right word), then just thank your lucky stars that your child doesn't need one.
Don't judge!
PEANUT1
03-26-2010, 11:30 AM
I don't really believe in leashes. However, our almost 2 year old needs to be put in a kennel when in public. hahaha She is the only one of our 3 who have ever been holy terrors. haha
you don't believe in them...like they don't exist?? :rotfl:
Matt@WDWR
03-26-2010, 11:38 AM
you don't believe in them...like they don't exist?? :rotfl:
LOL maybe I meant to say I don't believe in using them.haha oops. Although if others do, I don't care. I don't have time to worry about how others parent. I'm just saying it isn't for me. Now, if I have to lock em in a stroller until they are 20 then I'll do that. haha
TeriofTerror
03-26-2010, 12:21 PM
Slightly OT -- I've gotten "that look" from other parents regarding scared kids on rides. When my daughter was younger, all she could talk about was riding ToT. Once we got there, she was scared and reluctant to ride. I knew she'd be really disappointed if she didn't do it, however, so I, er, convinced (translation: bribed) her to ride. Of course, once it was over she declared it the best ride ever and immediately wanted to ride it again. I really wish I could have paraded her in front of all the people who thought I was evil for "forcing" her on the ride!
Claudia Kellenberger
03-26-2010, 12:46 PM
I cannot even imagine a nightmare as bad as having a very young child lost in the crowds. When I see a kid on one of those "leashes" I know they won't get lost. If you know your little child runs out into the crowd, or the road, then I would hope you protect them as much as you can. :thumbsup2
gmouse1
03-26-2010, 12:47 PM
For me I'm a totally paranoid newly-single parent who is deathly afraid my son will get lost in the crowd at DisneyWorld. My son loves to "do his own thing" and I'm not taking any chances in a place that big with so many people. I'll take the risk of anyone looking down on me, I really don't care what anyone thinks when it comes to protecting my son.
As an example, we were sitting in my parents house just after shovelling out from a blizzard this winter and my son took off in the living room where the front door is. Without hesitation I ran after him and by the time I caught up he was out the door standing right next to a busy street beside a huge snow mound. If he would have taken one more step that would have been the end of him because the cars never would have seen him behind the snow mound. I had nightmares of what could have happend for days after that.
Stinasmom
03-27-2010, 06:22 PM
My reason for using the "leash" when my kids were little has yet to be mentioned here or on the podcast...
I was scared to death of someone else swooping up and taking my child when I wasn't looking! Even if they are right next to you, you get distracted and they could be gone!:scared1:
So, I totally recommend them!
moepanz
03-27-2010, 06:34 PM
I used to think "what horrible parents" when I saw those things. Then I had twins.:rotfl2: Being in WDW with a 4yr and 2 2yr olds would not have been possible without the twins on a leash. The twins are 4 now and I will still have them "leashed" for our Dec. trip.
golden2323
03-27-2010, 07:44 PM
I'll post another view on it, that I have not seen brought up. I have two year old twins. They are well behaved and don't USUALLY give us any trouble about holding hands, either. However, my girls PREFER the tethers we used for them vs. holding hands in some cases. Florida in September is HOT, and they were more than happy to wear a tether so they didn't have to hold our hot hands, and had a little more freedom, while my husband and I still had the peace of mind of knowing that they couldn't stray too far.
To each his own - I've never understood looking down on others for their parenting choices.
Now, the parents letting their kids wear those "heelies" and racing through Wal-mart, those I judge. ;)
2Tiggies
03-27-2010, 07:44 PM
You don't need a "runner" to get separated from your child at Disney. Anyone ever exited the MK at park closing on Easter ..... :scared1: I had the wrist to wrist strap attached to my belt loops and to DDs. She was 7 last trip. I didn't need any such thing when she was a toddler. We do what we have to do and what is comfortable to us. I think a lot of criticism is perceived, rather than actual. I know there are those who are against leashes on kids for various reasons. I am probably not keen on some of the things that they do, but it wouldn't stop me from having a coffee and a chat with them. Even the best of friends don't agree on everything. :goodvibes
Dismom+two
03-27-2010, 07:54 PM
Ok...so I am in my early 40's and when I was young my mother used a leash with me. Back then they didn't have "child leashes" so she actually used a dog leash. If only she patented it...we could have been rich now!! haha
hookedonears
03-28-2010, 09:34 AM
A leash is no big deal. I don't people need them, but to each his own. We have a friend whose baby was crawling out of his baby bed at night so the mom put one of those zip on nets across the top. Many people thought that was absurd. Though like I said, to each his own.
itch1
03-28-2010, 10:29 AM
I was one of those judgmental people, when my oldest (16 now) was a child I used to chastise the parents under my breath of coarse. I said "I will never use one. If they couldn't control their children they shouldn't have had them."
Now in my defense my son was very reserved and always loved to hold my hand or ride in the stroller.
Now fast forward to today being the father of twin 3 year old Disney souvies who don't listen well and like to play the "come catch me" game. I have asked the wife if we should. We have thought about and will forgo them for now on this trip but if they become to much, Wally World is only a stones throw away from the Fort!
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PinkBudgie
03-28-2010, 10:39 AM
I'm a twin mom too, when my boys were little I used them some. The point I didn't see made here is that they actually give them a little more freedom. They don't have to hold your hand, they have the freedom to walk around a little and stop to look at something. And with twins, you can't just let them walk next to you not connected in someway because one can run one way and one run the other way. My boys are 16 now. Do you think I should take the leashes off now? :rotfl: (Just kidding! ;) )
*NikkiBell*
03-28-2010, 10:50 AM
I have mixed feelings on the "kid's leash." My mother always had us hold her hand so there was never an issue. Strollers were also used so we wouldn't wander off. If it is a strategy that works for some parents, I say go for it. I don't think people shoule be criticized for using them though.
zulemara
03-28-2010, 11:04 AM
I literally clap when I see kids on a leash. If ur kid is likely to dart out in front of adults, then leashes are a good idea. One time a kid tripped DBF and the parent looks at him and says "you have to watch out for the little people" Forgive him for not walking around looking at the ground because your kid might dart in front of him. ugh!
2Tiggies
03-28-2010, 06:01 PM
Ok...so I am in my early 40's and when I was young my mother used a leash with me. Back then they didn't have "child leashes" so she actually used a dog leash. If only she patented it...we could have been rich now!! haha
I'm sure some people will disapprove that I am laughing about this, but :rotfl2: :rotfl: :lmao: :laughing:
You obviously survived - with a sense of humor too! ;)
FairyGodmotherJen
03-29-2010, 12:30 PM
I'm seriously considering it for our trip in June. My youngest will be 2, and he's just completely different than the other two were. We're bringing a stroller, but he's not happy in it for very long periods of time (and, since he's a tall two-year-old, he can actually plant his feet down and stand up in the darn thing if he really wants out :eek:). I just want him to be safe.
I was also one that used to shake their heads at people who did this...until I had my kids. I guess that sort of wisdom is something you can't get until you've been there, done that. And not everyone will go through it, because not every child's temperment is the same. It just taught me to go easier on others now!
GaSleepingBeautyFan
03-29-2010, 12:47 PM
I wish leashes were around when my DS was young.
Our first Disney trip when he was 2 years old was a mess. About all I remember of it, is me having to chase him down or having to stop him from unhooking his stroller straps to stop him from escaping.
He's always been a wanderer. It got to be a joke when we'd go on Cub Scout trips because he'd always wander off unless he was watched closely.
At 14, he still wanders off but now he's at least got a cell phone.
We never had this problem with DD. Thank goodness.
I say :thumbsup2 for those cute backpack leashes.
BriarRosie
03-29-2010, 01:11 PM
I'm not a parent. But I never understood why any parent (or anyone who was old enough to have a child, like me) would think these leash contraptions were wrong, especially in a highly stimulating place like Walt Disney World? :confused3
I've been known to lose track of friends while wandering around the Osborne Lights. I can totally believe little kids could easily get separated from parents there.
So I'm all for anything that improves guest safety! :thumbsup2
exwdwcm
03-29-2010, 01:29 PM
Yea, i was one of those- i laughed at the kids on leashes before i had my son. Now I understand it. Would i use it myself? Probably not. But now i understand where they are coming from.
is it harder to corral my son without a leash? Sure, it is work, but that's what i'm here for, right? :rotfl:and it's a good workout. :lmao: So we keep him in his stroller and otherwise when out and about, he is holding our hands or on shoulders. He gets to roam freely where it is safe to do so (playgrounds, no crowds etc). DH and I are pretty quick on our feet to chase when needed.
but being a completely PARANOID mom myself, i now understand it. We do buy these cute little bracelets and write cell phone #s on them for DS to wear while at WDW- just in case.
Disney Dad Canada
03-29-2010, 01:32 PM
I'm a widowed dad of three kids, son 10 (today, happy birthday), and twin girls 6 year olds. Having been a single parent for over three years, I can't tell you how many people wonder how I keep my kids from running all around without being leashed, especially since I don't own a car and we go everywhere via public transit. Then when they heard we were going to WDW, just the four of us, some relatives almost insisted, almost saying I'm being a delinquent parent by allowing the possibility of the kids running away at the parks.
Personally I never even thought of these items as an option. With my kids, I know they are responsible enough to not run away like that. This is mainly due to the fact that I've "let them go cordless" from the beginning. They know not to do the "I want I want" in stores, because they know it's not going to work, and they know that if they run away (which one of my kids did at the local zoo once) that we will go home right away afterward, and not go anywhere for a few weeks.
I'm not saying this because I believe I'm the perfect parent, far from it. I do believe the need for these items for certain children, just don't use it as an alternative to being consistent and fair with your parenting. A parent's job is to teach your children how to live in the world, not to protect them from every possible negative outcome that can occur.
Once again, I'm definately not judging other parents who use these, I just kknow what I think is best for my kids.
2Tiggies
03-29-2010, 04:51 PM
Someone posted something really spot-on on a different topic, but also regarding children (and potentially contraversial). Some people without kids were sharing their opinions and I mentioned how my rock solid ideas of right and wrong did a miraculous change once I became a parent. This very wise DISer responded with "I was a much better parent before I had children". I really enjoyed that and looked at myself and though, "how true". :goodvibes
jeanigor
03-29-2010, 08:07 PM
Your mileage may vary. Each situation is different.
Quite often I think a leash would be beneficial for me, though.
I will try to keep this short. I have three kids twins 20 and girl 23. The kids have been going to disney since they where 9 months and 3. We used what was referred to way back then as hand holders. They where not as fancy as the items used today but just when around their wrist and yours. On a recent trip my kids said look dad a leash baby and kind of laughed about it. I remembered back to when I did that with them and asked them "Did it bother you to wear those" My twins replied no we thought it was fun since when we where a little older like 3 to 5 we would intentionally go in different directions to see you try to handle that. We all laughed about it and I remembered back to when they where young and enjoying the magic that disney brings and still brings to my family. In addition I thought gee they where messing with me at that young of an age. As for people using them.To each his own and lets all enjoy the magic that disney brings to each of our lives.
My mother, brother and I were flying overseas out of JFK when my brother was 4 - back in the 60's. My brother ran off and was missing for the most horrific 3 hours in my mother's life. When we were boarding the plane a few hours after finding him, imagine the "I coulda had a V8" moment my mom had when we lined up behind another mom with 2 young children with leashes. Because of this, I used one on my son when traveling when he was very young. He learned quickly that he didn't have to wear the contraption if he behaved and held our hands, so he only had to wear it once to WDW. He was 3 at the time.
kaligal
04-01-2010, 10:39 PM
I wouldn't do it, but I don't have any problem with others doing it. Never considered other people's child-raising any of my beezwax.
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