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Bouncin-Tigger
03-10-2010, 02:06 PM
Whats are your thoughts on the newly announced domestic pass.
http://www.dvcnews.com/index.php/theme-parks-helpful-information-88/1208-disney-premier-passport-announced
It seems geared towards the dvc and also seems a little pricey but it does have water parks and disney quest and parking included.

alady89
03-10-2010, 02:21 PM
Will there be an additional DVC discount?

This pass might interest us as it allows us to experience both parks in one year which was our thought for 2012.

A huge amount at one time but still interesting. Wish Disney had a flex pay option like Universal

tjkraz
03-10-2010, 02:30 PM
At $700--which almost certainly does not include tax--it's still too high for me.

I won't go through all of my math but I can make out far better just buying tickets/APs individually for the number of trips we take.

Now, if DVC can get us another $100-150 off, that changes things dramatically. Since the pass was first rumored, I figured that I would not seriously consider it for anything over $600.

Aside from that, the thing that would influence my decision most would be a payment plan. Sure I have the funds available, but getting an interest-free loan from Disney helps the economics of buying the pass. I'd rather budget $200 per month rather than being charged $2400 on the spot.

(Wow that's still a lot of money. :scared1: )

If Disney can get me to the point where I'm being debited $45-50 per person, per month, I may just buy the pass for our entire family and never waste another moment studying ticket prices again.

alady89
03-10-2010, 02:43 PM
Agree, the $700 is a bit steep $500 or even $550 would be good.

Flex pay as universal calls it w/ automatic debit would certainly make it an easier buy.

We live in Indiana and all have flex pay annual passes for universal since it just seems so much easier to justify than upfront costs. Also, quite a bit cheaper:angel:

However, since joining DVC last year, this flexibility would make Disney more likely. In fact, when I first joined last year, I called member services satisfaction and when they called back they noted this suggestion and said they had heard many times DVC members were wanting a coast to coast pass. It is cool to see they do listen when enough people ask for it.

SFD998
03-10-2010, 02:48 PM
We are AP holders and even with them letting you upgrade it still seems pretty expensive. We do want to take our boys to Disneyland some day. If this is still around then maybe the price would be right. Might be cheaper to buy the pass and have it all instead of buying AP's and tickets for DL.

erionm
03-10-2010, 02:49 PM
Agree, the $700 is a bit steep $500 or even $550 would be good.

Flex pay as universal calls it w/ automatic debit would certainly make it an easier buy.

We live in Indiana and all have flex pay annual passes for universal since it just seems so much easier to justify than upfront costs. Also, quite a bit cheaper:angel:

However, since joining DVC last year, this flexibility would make Disney more likely. In fact, when I first joined last year, I called member services satisfaction and when they called back they noted this suggestion and said they had heard many times DVC members were wanting a coast to coast pass. It is cool to see they do listen when enough people ask for it.

I can't see them selling them for $500 when a full price WDW Premium AP is $494.

ThunderSnow
03-10-2010, 03:01 PM
I just want another 15 month renewal

alady89
03-10-2010, 03:09 PM
I can't see them selling them for $500 when a full price WDW Premium AP is $494.

Is that the price with or without DVC discount?

We normally would never buy an AP due to expense and not being in driving distance. And, honestly, DW once a year is enough for us. Other places to go and see.

However, both DL and DW has its mertis. Also, there are alot of other fun places nearby in CA to visit. Love eating at DL as they have my fave restaruant in both parks.

Pixieflip
03-10-2010, 03:31 PM
$700 x 6 of us = $4200. :rotfl2:

ThunderSnow
03-10-2010, 04:04 PM
Pixieflip, you're laughing at $4200 (we're 6 too), but maybe you missed this:

# A one-year subscription to Disney Family Fun magazine (one per household)

Chuck S
03-10-2010, 04:05 PM
I think it is way too expensive. My thoughts are it should be priced similarly to a WDW Premium Annual Pass. I mean, if someone uses it for 15 park days at WDW and 15 park days at Disneyland, how is that substantialy different from a local using their discounted annual pass for 30 days at Disneyland OR Walt Disey World? Or even a local using a highly discounted seasonal pass for 30 park days during a year?

Reddog1134
03-10-2010, 04:05 PM
As I stated in a previous thread, this would benefit me this year IF DVC members were to get at least a $100 discount. It would still be slightly more than the tickets I plan to buy but I would gain extra days in the parks (my stays are longer than the maximum day tickets), extra discounts and a few magazine subscriptions.

Maistre Gracey
03-10-2010, 04:16 PM
I will probably buy it just for convenience. That said, there are only two of us.

It would be a no brainer IF either:

-- Pleasure Island was still open. That gave me the need for the PAP.

OR

-- We get at least $100 DVC discount.

MG

SuzanneSLO
03-10-2010, 04:25 PM
We are planning 2 trips to DL this summer and 2 trips to WDW in Fall and next Spring, a total of about 25 Parks days. Our cost for these days, including using our GAD GADD voucher, would be about $601 for a Costco 4 day DL pass, upgrading the voucher to a PH, and a WDW DVC AP. If instead we apply our GAD GADD to the Premier Domestic AP, our cost is $628 to purchase at DL, for a total cost of about $25 per day. For this difference, we could visit DL on any day. We are about 4 hours away, but might go for the D23 Destination D seminar in September or Thanksgiving at Club 33 or the CP or ???. Even wihtou a DVC discount, it seems like a no-brainer for us this year.

By the way, it appears that the OOP cost is higher if purchased at WDW than if purchased at DL because CA does not charge sales tax on theme park tickets. That may be one reasons that the tickets will not be available online. -- Suzanne

Maistre Gracey
03-10-2010, 04:30 PM
By the way, it appears that the OOP cost is higher if purchased at WDW than if purchased at DL because CA does not charge sales tax on theme park tickets. That may be one reasons that the tickets will not be available online. -- Suzanne
That is a HUMUNGOUS piece of great info..

Thanx for pointing that out.
MG

dcfromva
03-10-2010, 04:39 PM
We buy APes at both locations anyway.. Although, they are staggered--so we don't have to come up with the full amount at one time. Ex. My premium AP at DL just expired and my regular AP at WDW expires in Dec. I would normally wait until our next trip to DL (in Jun) to purchase another AP.

DH has a deluxe AP at DL (expires in Aug) and a regular AP at WDW (expires in Dec. I wonder how much it might cost to upgrade?


The discounts at DL are better with the premium AP, so we like to have at least one. I noticed that they were giving AP discounts inside EPCOT on our last visit--they asked if the pass was regular or premium AP. It sounded like premium would get a better discount...

SuzanneSLO
03-10-2010, 04:50 PM
That is a HUMUNGOUS piece of great info..

Thanx for pointing that out.
MG

Actually, it looks like I was wrong on this point. it has been posted on the DL board that $22.75 in tax will be charged on each ticket no matter where it is purchased, all of which will go to the state of Florida.

And, assuming you can upgrade using the GAD GADD voucher, it will actually be $7 cheaper at WDW because at DL the voucher is valued at $72 and at WDW it is valued at $79. -- Suzanne

cseca
03-10-2010, 04:51 PM
This pass will work for anybody who generally gets WDW PAP and planning to go to DL for the year as well. For people like us who only needs WDW AP and planning to go to DL once in a year it's not worth it.
DL 5/6 day pass is around $200 (or less). So add that to $415 AP still less than $700+tax pp. So unfortunately it won't work for us... oh well. I was hoping... :)

If DVC gets $100 savings that would change everything.

Tiger926
03-10-2010, 04:58 PM
Too expensive for us...we only go to WDW. We'll go to DisneyLand some day, but that will be in the future.

People keep talking about a DVC discount, but the website clearly states there will be no DVC discount. What am I missing?

Tiger

pycees312
03-10-2010, 05:00 PM
That is a HUMUNGOUS piece of great info..

Thanx for pointing that out.
MG

wow no sales tax in California too! I'm sold... I have a family of 5 and yes it's a bit steep but makes so much sense for what our Disney plans are. we go to Disneyland at least 3 times and year and to add Disneyworld in the mix it makes my DVC i purchased that much more attractive!!

Maistre Gracey
03-10-2010, 05:01 PM
Actually, it looks like I was wrong on this point. it has been posted on the DL board that $22.75 in tax will be charged on each ticket no matter where it is purchased, all of which will go to the state of Florida.

And, assuming you can upgrade using the GAD GADD voucher, it will actually be $7 cheaper at WDW because at DL the voucher is valued at $72 and at WDW it is valued at $79. -- Suzanne
Oh well...
Thanx for setting the record straight!!!

MG

KAT4DISNEY
03-10-2010, 05:09 PM
If we bought the premium passes then it might make sense but I've always gotten the deluxe so it's still less expensive to buy individual with the DVC discount and upgrades.

It's not much of a deal anyway IMO. If they were charging a little more to add the second park then I think it would encourage more people to visit both. Mostly what this price does is provide a convenience to people who already visit both.

TLPL
03-10-2010, 05:19 PM
I think Disney should give all DVCers free upgrade to the new "Premier Annual Passport" as a member's perk: For the price of a WDW AP, get the DLR AP part free. That way more people will be willing to travel to both coasts for their DVC vacations, and maybe it will encourage more people to buy into VGC.

TLPL
03-10-2010, 05:31 PM
I think it is way too expensive. My thoughts are it should be priced similarly to a WDW Premium Annual Pass. I mean, if someone uses it for 15 park days at WDW and 15 park days at Disneyland, how is that substantialy different from a local using their discounted annual pass for 30 days at Disneyland OR Walt Disey World? Or even a local using a highly discounted seasonal pass for 30 park days during a year?

I agree with Chuck. there are only so many vacation days per year one has, and you can be only in one place or another. If you spend your vacation at WDW then simply you won't be at Disneyland, and not going to use their facility. So why would someone wants to pay more for something they can't use?

Just like people who pays for 500+ cable channels and thinks they are getting more. You only have 24 hours a day and 1 pair of eyes, how much TV can you watch? :teacher:

There are more in life than Disney you know.

aan1701
03-10-2010, 05:35 PM
700 per person. Well since we live 30 miles from DL and go to WDW at least four times per year, this us a bargin. We pay 419 per person ( it is only DW and myself, we do not have kids) for our PAP here at DL. DVC does not help with renewals as it is the same discount, and we pay about 460 for our WDW PAP rebewals. So looks like we will save 180 per person. I like that. I can't see how that is to much if you have both. Only problem I see as of now is our DL passes expire in two weeks and we just sent in the paperwork for the monthly payments for So Ca residents. Wonder what will happen. Also we just renewed DW pass a week ago today at WDW. Hmmm. Should be interesting to see.

Maistre Gracey
03-10-2010, 05:36 PM
Just like people who pays for 500+ cable channels and thinks they are getting more. You only have 24 hours a day and 1 pair of eyes, how much TV can you watch? :teacher:
I definitely need the 500+ channels..
The first 499 are all the Latino Home Shopping Network!! :teeth:

MG

LovinmyDisneylife
03-10-2010, 05:44 PM
I think it's a great deal for someone who visits both parks each year. The regular price for a Premium AP at WDW is $619 and DL is $439.

Reddog1134
03-10-2010, 05:44 PM
Too expensive for us...we only go to WDW. We'll go to DisneyLand some day, but that will be in the future.

People keep talking about a DVC discount, but the website clearly states there will be no DVC discount. What am I missing?

Tiger

I only read the official announcement on the D23 website which made no mention of DVC whatsoever. I didn't realize the DVCnews site had additional info.

SuzanneSLO
03-10-2010, 06:26 PM
I only read the official announcement on the D23 website which made no mention of DVC whatsoever. I didn't realize the DVCnews site had additional info.

It is in the Disney Parks blog: http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2010/03/disney-premier-passport-unveiled/

In answer to a question postd online, Thomas Smith, Social Media Director, Disney Parks, said unequivacally there would not be any DVC discount.

As a follow up, does anyone know if you have an AP with a DVC discount and want to upgrade to the Premiere Pass, what $$ credit will you get? Is it based on what you actaully paid or the value of the non-discoutned ticket? -- Suzanne

Tara
03-10-2010, 06:43 PM
Heck, they aren't even discounting the price for CHILDREN, so you know DVC members aren't getting a discount!

I think the new pass is not for me. I have no need for the premium AP for WDW as it is and don't have any plans to travel to DL in the near future (or even long term - it doesn't appeal to me), so I can't imagine shelling out $700 + tax for it.

corpcomp
03-10-2010, 07:16 PM
I'll stick with the regular annual pass. We rarely get to go to the waterparks and never to CA. Way too much money.

arthur06
03-10-2010, 07:16 PM
$700 per person is WAY too much for us!

I can see it being a great deal for those that live close to DL or WDW and make multiple trips per year to the other. We live in Iowa, however, so I would just rather buy a WDW AP one year and a DL AP the next and stagger my trips that way.

La2kw
03-10-2010, 07:19 PM
I can't see them selling them for $500 when a full price WDW Premium AP is $494.

And the Disneyland Premium AP is $439.

Disney Princess
03-10-2010, 07:28 PM
I didn't read through everyone's comments, but $700 is too much for us to justify. We own at both BWV and VGC and could have seen this being a possibility for us. We already have a WDW AP, so we thought about doing this if the price was right. It could have given us the flexibility to visit either of our homes when it was convenient. This is too much for us to outlay. We will just plan our visits accordingly with the APs to WDW and then probably just hoppers to DLR when we go.

It did strike me as odd that they clearly stated no DVC discount would be given. While I think they have every right to price their tickets how they choose, and we are not entitled to a discount, I would think DVCers would have been a primary target for these tickets. Offering even a small discount might have encouraged people to buy one of these passes so they could visit both coasts - thus encouraging sales of other DVC properties. I do wonder how this will sell. I will stayed tuned to see . . .

La2kw
03-10-2010, 08:00 PM
We live in Southern California and always have a Disneyland AP, though not the Deluxe one. We also buy Premium AP's every other year and get two trips out of them (one each summer). We would definitely consider these since it would allow me to upgrade my Disneyland pass to a premium one (we always get the premium WDW pass) for less money than what I spend now for the two separate passes. I sure would like the DVC discount on these though.

dclfun
03-10-2010, 08:51 PM
Pixieflip, you're laughing at $4200 (we're 6 too), but maybe you missed this:

# A one-year subscription to Disney Family Fun magazine (one per household)

Too funny! I choked with laughter over this post.
As to the premium pass, there's no way we'd ever get our money's worth out of it, but perhaps those who travel more extensively and regularly to both coasts would be happy with it. We live near WDW so only an AP here would be beneficial. My daughter is already in sticker shock over those as one of her little ones will be three in August and will then need his own pass. ---Kathy

Inkmahm
03-10-2010, 10:56 PM
I'll stick with the regular annual pass. We rarely get to go to the waterparks and never to CA. Way too much money.

I'll stick with the regular AP for WDW, too. We never go to the waterparks and only get to CA rarely. We went to DL last August and we were able to use our 10 day parkhoppers from WDW at DL. That's a little known fact, I think. You CAN use WDW tickets at DL (just not DL tickets at WDW).

ShuisFan584
03-10-2010, 11:01 PM
Pixieflip, you're laughing at $4200 (we're 6 too), but maybe you missed this:

# A one-year subscription to Disney Family Fun magazine (one per household)

I think the magazine subscription just sold me! :lmao:

To me, it wouldn't be worth it. We don't go enough in one year for that to be worth it. And I've never even visited Disneyland.

bumbershoot
03-10-2010, 11:43 PM
Actually, it looks like I was wrong on this point. it has been posted on the DL board that $22.75 in tax will be charged on each ticket no matter where it is purchased, all of which will go to the state of Florida.

I finally just found that bit. Glendalais is a CM out at WDW who used to work at DLR. He keeps us updated. :)

Looks like the DLR AP portion is NOT taxed, but the WDW part is, which explains the weird tax amount on the whole thing. Interesting! I don't envy their tax attorneys...

tjkraz
03-10-2010, 11:53 PM
In fairness, if you eliminate the DVC discount on WDW passes from the discussion, this is actually a pretty good deal.

A Walt Disney World Premium Annual Pass is currently $659 per adult. :scared1:

Sounds like the Premier pass is around $720 with tax, so you're getting the Disneyland access for only about $60. Not too bad.

But much harder to justify for DVC members who are sacrificing that $125 discount. DVCers are only paying $526 for the PAP so we are looking at a $200 premium for the Disneyland access.

People who already buy APs for both coasts will be tickled--DVC members or not. Aside from those folks, without knowing how many even buy WDW PAPs right now, it's hard to guess how many additional sales this thing will generate.

The idea of this all-encompassing, dual-coast park with no exclusions or blackout dates is very cool. But Disney also made it very expensive.

If they really wanted a device that would serve as something of a loss leader to encourage WDW guests to visit DL and vice-versa, I think they would have been much better off with a cheaper hybrid of the standard WDW AP and Disneyland's Deluxe AP (with blackout dates.)

I'm not really sure who their audience is for this pass. $700 is a lot of dough for one person to fork-over for a year-long tour of the Disney parks. I think your run-of-the-mill guest on a budget who wants to visit both DL and WDW will continue to stagger trips and buy more economical park admission.

Longhairbear
03-11-2010, 04:16 AM
We used to have AP's at both resorts so this would have been great for us at the time. We used to make 2 trips to WDW, but since VGC opened, we dropped one WDW trip, and the WDW AP to use the points for 1-2 night stays several times a year at DLR. Crunching the numbers made us rethink our DLR AP's also, and we downgraded to Deluxe Passes, as we no longer needed parking and never go on blackout days anyway.
We'll crunch the numbers again, but think we will save money by not getting the new pass.

thelionqueen
03-11-2010, 05:16 AM
In fairness, if you eliminate the DVC discount on WDW passes from the discussion, this is actually a pretty good deal.

A Walt Disney World Premium Annual Pass is currently $659 per adult. :scared1:

Sounds like the Premier pass is around $720 with tax, so you're getting the Disneyland access for only about $60. Not too bad.

But much harder to justify for DVC members who are sacrificing that $125 discount. DVCers are only paying $526 for the PAP so we are looking at a $200 premium for the Disneyland access.

People who already buy APs for both coasts will be tickled--DVC members or not. Aside from those folks, without knowing how many even buy WDW PAPs right now, it's hard to guess how many additional sales this thing will generate.

The idea of this all-encompassing, dual-coast park with no exclusions or blackout dates is very cool. But Disney also made it very expensive.

If they really wanted a device that would serve as something of a loss leader to encourage WDW guests to visit DL and vice-versa, I think they would have been much better off with a cheaper hybrid of the standard WDW AP and Disneyland's Deluxe AP (with blackout dates.)

I'm not really sure who their audience is for this pass. $700 is a lot of dough for one person to fork-over for a year-long tour of the Disney parks. I think your run-of-the-mill guest on a budget who wants to visit both DL and WDW will continue to stagger trips and buy more economical park admission.

Excellent post!!
I was super excited when I saw this announced, as I have been wishing for it forever!!
As a DVC owner on both coasts, who frequently visits both annually (sometimes a couple times each with business travel) I was the PRIME audience for this pass!! It is just TOO expensive!!!

In reading over the posts here, it seems that with a discount, many would at least consider this option, but without it, no way. I have to agree! DVC owners are PRIME candidates for this pass, and for Disney to specifically not offer us discounts makes no sense at all!

Wake up Disney Exec's!! If DVC owners can't afford and don't buy these passes, what customer base will?:sad2:

Longhairbear
03-11-2010, 05:44 AM
Excellent post!!
I was super excited when I saw this announced, as I have been wishing for it forever!!
As a DVC owner on both coasts, who frequently visits both annually (sometimes a couple times each with business travel) I was the PRIME audience for this pass!! It is just TOO expensive!!!

In reading over the posts here, it seems that with a discount, many would at least consider this option, but without it, no way. I have to agree! DVC owners are PRIME candidates for this pass, and for Disney to specifically not offer us discounts makes no sense at all!

Wake up Disney Exec's!! If DVC owners can't afford and don't buy these passes, what customer base will?:sad2:
I agree. I used to be the prime audience for this pass, but not now.
We don't need free parking at any resort when staying at the villas for our style of vacationing. We park for free at VGC. We never rent a car in WDW. Our membership gives us the same great discounts as premium passholders in CA. Golf and waterparks parks are something we don't always use.
I'd be more interested in a Deluxe version of the new pass, with less options I'd never use anyway, and a lower price.
The big difference for us, is the number of trips to WDW. If we still did 2 trips a year, this would be a huge deal for us.

aan1701
03-11-2010, 06:29 AM
I guess I am just blind, stupid, or just not getting it when I see people post it is too much. By my math if you buy a new PAP to WDW with the DVC discount with tax ( I will round up to make life easier) it is $500. A new DL PAP is 419 with DVC discount. So that makes a price of roughly $920. Looks like a savings of $220. Not bad if you ask me. So I am also getting confused when I see people say their should be a DVC discount. Now with renewals if I were to use the DVC discount it is still about a savings of $175 if I were to renew my Premeir Pass. So I guess I just don't see how this is a bad deal, if you will use it, and since I go to DL almost every week and to WDW for about 20 days a year, I am so thrilled for this pass.

nunzia
03-11-2010, 08:02 AM
I didn't read through everyone's comments, but $700 is too much for us to justify. We own at both BWV and VGC and could have seen this being a possibility for us. We already have a WDW AP, so we thought about doing this if the price was right. It could have given us the flexibility to visit either of our homes when it was convenient. This is too much for us to outlay. We will just plan our visits accordingly with the APs to WDW and then probably just hoppers to DLR when we go.

It did strike me as odd that they clearly stated no DVC discount would be given. While I think they have every right to price their tickets how they choose, and we are not entitled to a discount, I would think DVCers would have been a primary target for these tickets. Offering even a small discount might have encouraged people to buy one of these passes so they could visit both coasts - thus encouraging sales of other DVC properties. I do wonder how this will sell. I will stayed tuned to see . . .

I agree...I'm wondering if this might be an incentive on the webcast..get a Premium AP..I may be able to go to DL and WDW in the same year, but not multiple times, so I doubt I'd get this. I can certainly see how it would be a great deal for those who go to both properties many times in one year, but I'd think charging just a little more than the WDW AP would be a good inducer to get people to travel to both properties...after all, you can't be in both places at once :)

cseca
03-11-2010, 08:04 AM
I guess I am just blind, stupid, or just not getting it when I see people post it is too much. By my math if you buy a new PAP to WDW with the DVC discount with tax ( I will round up to make life easier) it is $500. A new DL PAP is 419 with DVC discount. So that makes a price of roughly $920. Looks like a savings of $220. Not bad if you ask me. So I am also getting confused when I see people say their should be a DVC discount. Now with renewals if I were to use the DVC discount it is still about a savings of $175 if I were to renew my Premeir Pass. So I guess I just don't see how this is a bad deal, if you will use it, and since I go to DL almost every week and to WDW for about 20 days a year, I am so thrilled for this pass.

I think what the majority of posters are saying is that not many DVC-ers get WDW PAP. Mostly get AP. And as for DL pass, unless you live close enough to go there often not very many people go for more than 5 or 6 days. Which is a LOT cheaper to get a regular park hopper than DL PAP as well.

So the majority of DVC-ers would probably be better off with regular discounted DVC AP and get DL PH.

At least that's what I get from this thread :thumbsup2

It's great that it works well for you, I wanted it to work for me but it might not be this time around.

If this new premier pass comes with a larger merch or dining discount I might just re-think it again. Since I do shop when I go to the parks.

MinnieGirl33
03-11-2010, 08:05 AM
I think it is way too expensive. My thoughts are it should be priced similarly to a WDW Premium Annual Pass. I mean, if someone uses it for 15 park days at WDW and 15 park days at Disneyland, how is that substantialy different from a local using their discounted annual pass for 30 days at Disneyland OR Walt Disey World? Or even a local using a highly discounted seasonal pass for 30 park days during a year?

My thoughts exactly :thumbsup2

If they want to add a $50 convenience fee to the PAP for being able to use it in both places that's one thing but this... :confused3

tjkraz
03-11-2010, 08:41 AM
I guess I am just blind, stupid, or just not getting it when I see people post it is too much. By my math if you buy a new PAP to WDW with the DVC discount with tax ( I will round up to make life easier) it is $500. A new DL PAP is 419 with DVC discount. So that makes a price of roughly $920. Looks like a savings of $220. Not bad if you ask me. So I am also getting confused when I see people say their should be a DVC discount. Now with renewals if I were to use the DVC discount it is still about a savings of $175 if I were to renew my Premeir Pass. So I guess I just don't see how this is a bad deal, if you will use it, and since I go to DL almost every week and to WDW for about 20 days a year, I am so thrilled for this pass.

You are absolutely correct...it's a fantastic deal for people who already buy both passes.

But big picture, the goal of the pass should be to increase sales. For every dollar Disney is "losing" to people like you who will save they need to make that up in the form of added sales on the Premier AP or ancillary purchases in the theme parks.

I just don't know how many people are out there thinking "well, I was already going to spend $650 on a Walt Disney World PAP so I might as well just spend a little more and plan a trip to Disneyland, too."

I certainly don't begrudge people who will benefit from the pass, but it's not going to influence my travel (or spending) habits a bit.

gkrykewy
03-11-2010, 08:57 AM
We will likely be spending about a week at both DL and WDW in a coming 12-month period, but this is still too expensive for us (i.e., it would not save us any money). Wish there was a "silver" version that didn't include the water parks, Disneyquest, etc.

Ctsplaysinrain
03-11-2010, 09:45 AM
I'm wondering if I'm missing something. There are all these people that say it is NOT a good deal. To me, it seems like it is a deal for us.

We have the following trips planned:

July 25-Aug 2 WDW
Oct 15-17 DL ( I know this would be about 204 for just a 3 day hopper)
Dec 8-17 WDW

and probably another trip in July 2011. I know I can expect the kids will do at least 3 DQ days during these trips and perhaps we may try a water park.

Am I missing something why we would not save money? Or, and I think with this we might be tempted to do some other Dl trip in the spring just for the heck of it and the weekends would no longer be blocked out?

Is my math wrong? We are DVC members but for my kids ( teens), it would be a new pass not a renewal.

Inkmahm
03-11-2010, 09:45 AM
I think what the majority of posters are saying is that not many DVC-ers get WDW PAP. Mostly get AP. And as for DL pass, unless you live close enough to go there often not very many people go for more than 5 or 6 days. Which is a LOT cheaper to get a regular park hopper than DL PAP as well.

So the majority of DVC-ers would probably be better off with regular discounted DVC AP and get DL PH.

At least that's what I get from this thread :thumbsup2

It's great that it works well for you, I wanted it to work for me but it might not be this time around.

If this new premier pass comes with a larger merch or dining discount I might just re-think it again. Since I do shop when I go to the parks.
I think you're correct.

I'd still add that a DL PH isn't necessarily required if you already have a WDW parkhopper multiday pass. It CAN be used at DL for admission. You have to take it to the turnstyles and hand it to the CM there. The pass gets taken away by another CM supervisor and then brought back to you to let you in to the park. We found that the per day price on our 10 day WDW parkhoppers was a better deal for DL admission than any of the DL tickets for the 3 days we were at DL last summer.

Inkmahm
03-11-2010, 09:47 AM
We will likely be spending about a week at both DL and WDW in a coming 12-month period, but this is still too expensive for us (i.e., it would not save us any money). Wish there was a "silver" version that didn't include the water parks, Disneyquest, etc.

Exactly! Many of us never use the water parks, Disneyquest, golf courses, etc. This new pass would have me pay for these things that I wouldn't use anyway. A "silver" version might be more useful to a lot of us.

tjkraz
03-11-2010, 10:02 AM
I'm wondering if I'm missing something. There are all these people that say it is NOT a good deal. To me, it seems like it is a deal for us.

We have the following trips planned:

July 25-Aug 2 WDW
Oct 15-17 DL ( I know this would be about 204 for just a 3 day hopper)
Dec 8-17 WDW

and probably another trip in July 2011. I know I can expect the kids will do at least 3 DQ days during these trips and perhaps we may try a water park.

Am I missing something why we would not save money? Or, and I think with this we might be tempted to do some other Dl trip in the spring just for the heck of it and the weekends would no longer be blocked out?

Is my math wrong? We are DVC members but for my kids ( teens), it would be a new pass not a renewal.

The DVC-discounted PAP is $526 per adult and $464 per child. A Disneyland 3-day hopper is currently $184 per adult and $154 per child.

If you buy the separate tickets your total cost would be $710 per adult and $618 per child. The Premier pass is around $722 for both adults AND children.

On that basis alone you're about break-even for the adults in your group and spending more for the children. The only way this makes any sense for you is if you actually get a second Disneyland trip out of it. Otherwise you're just throwing away money--particularly on the kids' tickets.

The other thing you could consider is buying a separate DL Annual Pass when you visit in October, which gives you a longer period of admission to DL.

Aside from that, I think many are dismissing the offer because we're used to getting the more economical WDW Annual Pass rather than the Premium AP. The DVC-discounted AP is only $414 per adult. Add that to some Disneyland park hoppers (as needed) and you're still well under the cost of this Premier pass.

JWG
03-11-2010, 10:13 AM
I see very limited circumstances where this is a good deal. If you live close enough to one theme park to do annual passes, will you really visit the other enough to warrant an annual pass for both? It seems likely that an annual pass at one and regular admission to the other would be more cost effective.

If you are an individual making multiple trips to both locations that's awesome for you (and please send me some of th extra cash :worship:).

Seriously though, it seems targeted to a niche market where cost is less important anyway? If you're able to make multiple vacations to both coasts in a 12 month period, are you on a penny tight budget?

Tara
03-11-2010, 10:38 AM
The DVC-discounted PAP is $526 per adult and $464 per child. A Disneyland 3-day hopper is currently $184 per adult and $154 per child.

If you buy the separate tickets your total cost would be $710 per adult and $618 per child. The Premier pass is around $722 for both adults AND children.

On that basis alone you're about break-even for the adults in your group and spending more for the children. The only way this makes any sense for you is if you actually get a second Disneyland trip out of it. Otherwise you're just throwing away money--particularly on the kids' tickets.



The poster you're responding to has teenaged children, though - they would pay the adult price anyway.

dwelty
03-11-2010, 10:47 AM
The DVC-discounted PAP is $526 per adult and $464 per child. A Disneyland 3-day hopper is currently $184 per adult and $154 per child.

If you buy the separate tickets your total cost would be $710 per adult and $618 per child. The Premier pass is around $722 for both adults AND children.

On that basis alone you're about break-even for the adults in your group and spending more for the children. The only way this makes any sense for you is if you actually get a second Disneyland trip out of it. Otherwise you're just throwing away money--particularly on the kids' tickets.

The other thing you could consider is buying a separate DL Annual Pass when you visit in October, which gives you a longer period of admission to DL.

Aside from that, I think many are dismissing the offer because we're used to getting the more economical WDW Annual Pass rather than the Premium AP. The DVC-discounted AP is only $414 per adult. Add that to some Disneyland park hoppers (as needed) and you're still well under the cost of this Premier pass.

One additional point to this is that a Premium pass at DLR gets you a 15% discount on dining. And 10% off at all merchandise locations (not just World of Disney) I am assuming this pass would qualify for that as well.

thelionqueen
03-11-2010, 11:37 AM
I think you're correct.

I'd still add that a DL PH isn't necessarily required if you already have a WDW parkhopper multiday pass. It CAN be used at DL for admission. You have to take it to the turnstyles and hand it to the CM there. The pass gets taken away by another CM supervisor and then brought back to you to let you in to the park. We found that the per day price on our 10 day WDW parkhoppers was a better deal for DL admission than any of the DL tickets for the 3 days we were at DL last summer.


I have heard this before but found it not to work for us. I was told (several years ago) that WDW passes can be used @ DL, but was told differently by Disney so I never tried it.

Can you elaborate on how this works?

skierrob
03-11-2010, 11:59 AM
I agree this is a good deal for anyone that buys a WDW premium AP and then decides to also visit Disneyland that same year since a premium AP at WDW costs $600 normally.

However, for those of us that live in California, it isn't as great of a deal. Our premium AP is $439 (or $419 with DVC discount) and there is no tax on it. So, in order to save money with this pass, we'd also have to spend more than $300 per person on WDW tickets in order to come out ahead with the pass.

Given a 7-day parkhopper is under $300, unless you make more than one trip from California to WDW each year, AND time your AP premier pass purchase to work so it is valid for all your visits in a 12 month period, the pass isn't really worth the money to those of us on the West Coast.

A much better option for us in California is to maybe buy a Disneyland deluxe or premium AP, and then buy a 10 day never expiring park hopper with water parks and more for $500 that we can then use for several years in a row for water park and theme park admission at WDW.

Before anyone complains that the Disneyland AP is cheaper than a WDW AP, just remember that we only have two theme parks and WDW has four. ;)

Robert

Maistre Gracey
03-11-2010, 12:00 PM
My gripe is that I don't need to pay for parking at DLR. I simply will never drive there. Further more, if someone does drive there, only one person in the family needs the parking benefit.

I also don't need the every day option at DLR. I could live with some black out days on my DLR tix.

As far as WDW... We used to get PAPs when the Adventurers Club was open, but since it closed we switched to regular APs.

Regular APs plus no parking needed at DLR may make this ticket a bust.

MG

skierrob
03-11-2010, 12:02 PM
You can, allegedly, use an unused Walt Disney World ticket at Disneyland. But not an annual pass.

bwvBound
03-11-2010, 12:48 PM
However, for those of us that live in California, it isn't as great of a deal. ... <snip> ... A much better option for us in California is to maybe buy a Disneyland deluxe or premium AP, and then buy a 10 day never expiring park hopper with water parks and more for $500 that we can then use for several years in a row for water park and theme park admission at WDW.This Californian's approach: Purchase WDW AP using DVC discount ($389 + tax) plus Costco's 4 day PH for SoCal Residents ($159) for total just over $550. Don't need DLR parking as we tend to stay overnight and walk from hotel/resort and don't tend to use WDW waterparks as our Orlando visits are in Dec/Jan.

Disney will have to offer at least a $125 DVC-member discount on the Premier pass for me to consider it.

dis-happy
03-11-2010, 02:06 PM
I have heard this before but found it not to work for us. I was told (several years ago) that WDW passes can be used @ DL, but was told differently by Disney so I never tried it.

Can you elaborate on how this works?

It works....I did it a few weeks ago.

Go straight to the gate.
Tell CM you want to use a WDW ticket to enter.
CM calls over a supervisor who takes your ticket away.
A few minutes later supervisor returns with your ticket as well as another ticket you can use for the day at DL. Since our original tickets were PH we rec'd PH at DL as well. Supervisor also confirmed with me how many days were now left on our old tickets.

Easy as pie! And we saved a bundle---daily cost on the old WDW tickets was approx. $35. per day. To buy a PH admission in Dec. at DL would have been close to $100.

dis-happy
03-11-2010, 02:17 PM
One additional point to this is that a Premium pass at DLR gets you a 15% discount on dining. And 10% off at all merchandise locations (not just World of Disney) I am assuming this pass would qualify for that as well.

You can get a bunch of similar discounts with Disney Visa as well.

cseca
03-11-2010, 02:42 PM
It works....I did it a few weeks ago.

Go straight to the gate.
Tell CM you want to use a WDW ticket to enter.
CM calls over a supervisor who takes your ticket away.
A few minutes later supervisor returns with your ticket as well as another ticket you can use for the day at DL. Since our original tickets were PH we rec'd PH at DL as well. Supervisor also confirmed with me how many days were now left on our old tickets.

Easy as pie! And we saved a bundle---daily cost on the old WDW tickets was approx. $35. per day. To buy a PH admission in Dec. at DL would have been close to $100.

Just to clarify this only works for regular passes not APs.

thelionqueen
03-12-2010, 11:10 AM
Just to clarify this only works for regular passes not APs.


Wow, good to know!! I shoud have figured a WDW CM wouldn't have the correct information and my DIS friends would...lesson learned!! Thanks!

pickles
03-12-2010, 11:20 AM
They are keeping the reg PAP..right?

so there are 3 categories of passes..the AP, the PAP and now this one that includes DL?

we still get our discount for PAP? that is the ticket I use most.

I dont have enough money to upgrade to this new one(my passes exp end april)

tho I would love to if they had a decent DVC discount as I had planned to visit DL within the next 12 months

Chuck S
03-12-2010, 12:01 PM
Just to clarify this only works for regular passes not APs.

However, you know Disney.....now that his premium pass is available, Disneyland's policy may change, they may not continue to honor WDW passes.

cseca
03-12-2010, 01:08 PM
However, you know Disney.....now that his premium pass is available, Disneyland's policy may change, they may not continue to honor WDW passes.

Oooh, that's true.
But I thought the only reason they allow WDW pass to be used at DL is because WDW pass is more expensive than DL? That's why it doesn't work the other way around...

But then again, as you said they can change the rule anytime I spose... :confused3

princessbride6205
03-12-2010, 01:55 PM
Count me in as a regular WDW AP holder. The last time I visited a Disney water park or Disney Quest was 1999. If there was a non-premium version, I'd consider it. Maybe $575, minus a $50-75 DVC discount?

I do love DL and VGC - but right now we can't justify the cost of a visit there since we have WDW APs. Like others have said, this coast-to-coast pass sounds like it would be perfect for DVCers, but not the way they have it set up now.

Inkmahm
03-12-2010, 03:03 PM
It works....I did it a few weeks ago.

Go straight to the gate.
Tell CM you want to use a WDW ticket to enter.
CM calls over a supervisor who takes your ticket away.
A few minutes later supervisor returns with your ticket as well as another ticket you can use for the day at DL. Since our original tickets were PH we rec'd PH at DL as well. Supervisor also confirmed with me how many days were now left on our old tickets.

Easy as pie! And we saved a bundle---daily cost on the old WDW tickets was approx. $35. per day. To buy a PH admission in Dec. at DL would have been close to $100.
Exactly what we did last August. Daily cost on our WDW 10 day parkhopper tickets was must better than buying DL tickets of any kind.

ACDSNY
03-12-2010, 06:56 PM
Without a DVC discount we will not be purchasing the dual AP as it's more expensive than buying the Deluxe DL AP and parkhopper tickets at WDW. :sad2:

We typically don't have time for waterparks, DisneyQuest or golf while in WDW so those don't benefit us.

We wouldn't use the parking and many of the discounts are already available with from other sources like Disney VISA, DVC discount etc.

As others have said, if you weren't already buying PAP at DL & WDW then it's hard to justify the cost.

Longhairbear
03-13-2010, 03:22 AM
Without a DVC discount we will not be purchasing the dual AP as it's more expensive than buying the Deluxe DL AP and parkhopper tickets at WDW. :sad2:

We typically don't have time for waterparks, DisneyQuest or golf while in WDW so those don't benefit us.

We wouldn't use the parking and many of the discounts are already available with from other sources like Disney VISA, DVC discount etc.

As others have said, if you weren't already buying PAP at DL & WDW then it's hard to justify the cost.

My thoughts exactly. We save money by getting a deluxe pass at DLR without parking, as parking is free when staying at DVC. The cost of parking during day visits is still cheaper than adding parking to one of our deluxe passes.
In WDW we get length of stay passes, as we only stay a week.