View Full Version : Why you should NOT argue about RELIGION (ahem, EROS!) . .
Deb in IA
07-30-2002, 12:00 PM
Man Shot Dead over Heaven and Hell Argument
July 30
— GODLEY, Texas (Reuters) - An argument over who was going to heaven and who was going to hell ended with one Texas man shooting another to death with a shotgun, police said on Monday.
Johnny Joslin, 20 was allegedly shot by Clayton Frank Stoker, 21, on Sunday. The two had spent Saturday with two other men night bar hopping in Fort Worth, about 40 miles northeast of Godley.
Johnson County Sheriff Bob Alford said a witness who was the designated driver for the group told police the four men were sitting at a table outside a trailer park after their night on the town and entered into an argument about religion. The talk became heated when the subject turned to who would go to heaven and who would go to hell.
Stoker said he would settle the argument and went into a house and returned with a shotgun, which he loaded and placed in his mouth, Alford said the witness reported.
"The victim Joslin then took the gun out of Stokers mouth, saying, 'If you have to shoot somebody, shoot me,'" Alford said, citing the witness report.
The shotgun went off, hitting Joslin in the chest and killing him.
Stoker, a Johnson County corrections officer, has been arrested and charged with first-degree murder, Alford said.
And it happened in GODLEY, Texas!
olena
07-30-2002, 12:08 PM
Ironic
bsnyder
07-30-2002, 12:09 PM
WOW!
Thanks, DEB:) . I try never to mix alcohol AND posting about "THE BIG GUY".............too dangerous a combination:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ........
NHAnn
07-30-2002, 12:15 PM
YIKES!!!!
With guns and alcohol involved, I wonder if it really mattered WHAT they were arguing about.
Ricola
07-30-2002, 12:23 PM
uh-oh.....
an "ahem" post.
Are you sure those are allowed?
ILUVDXL
07-30-2002, 12:24 PM
Unless it's someone I'm very close to, I always avoid conversations on politics and religon. People's opinons on the matter can be very passionate and I know many a good friend who have gone their separate ways because of aguments over these subject. Thank heaven no one's killed the other over it.
fireplug
07-30-2002, 01:58 PM
Eros, This is the kind of thread you can really get foamed up about. Let your voice be heard.;)
Steve
PS: Post all you want on this one and leave some of the threads about children alone for awhile . PLEASE;)
6_Time_Momma
07-30-2002, 02:11 PM
Well, that certainly makes it clear that there is no God!!!
nativetxn
07-30-2002, 02:14 PM
Very tragic. It had to happen in Texas too :(
Jeff in BigD
07-30-2002, 02:14 PM
I think EROS would avoid Texas at all costs. LOL ;)
Indyman
07-30-2002, 02:20 PM
Darwin was right!
Originally posted by 6_Time_Momma
Well, that certainly makes it clear that there is no God!!!
LOL, 6_Time_Momma;) ;) ;) ;) ;) .......... I knew that you'd come around:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Originally posted by Jeff in BigD
I think EROS would avoid Texas at all costs. LOL ;)
LOL, Jeff:) . Of course, you know that I NEVER back down from a debate. I'll just have to remember to bring my .45 semi-auto to any "GODLY" discussions in Texas;) ;) ;) ;) .........
fireplug
07-30-2002, 02:28 PM
and don't forget your "trailer and bottle of booze";) ;) ;)
Steve
Fireplug, I've been known to CHUG a whole bottle of............LISTERINE:p :p :p :p :p
Jeff in BigD
07-30-2002, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by EROS
LOL, Jeff:) . Of course, you know that I NEVER back down from a debate. I'll just have to remember to bring my .45 semi-auto to any "GODLY" discussions in Texas;) ;) ;) ;) .........
LOL. Just don't get caught with that smoking gun. They're always willing to let folks ride the light'nun down here. ;)
Of course this did happen over in Fort Worth. They still have a bit of the wild west mentality over there. Dallas is a little more cosmopolltan, a lot more like "diet Texas" & is different from a lot of the state in most ways except politics.
NHAnn
07-30-2002, 04:03 PM
At the risk of "ruining" EROS' reputation ;) fireplug, I noticed on at least a couple of threads this morning he posted very short positive "thinking of you" in regular size letters- even a HUG.
:D
fireplug
07-30-2002, 04:08 PM
NHAnn, maybe we are wearing him down. :p
But you are right he does almost have human like qualities today:rolleyes:
Steve
Fireplug, NHAnn...............do I look human to you????:confused: :confused: :confused: .......
http://www.artbell.com/img/reptile.jpg
zurgswife
07-30-2002, 04:34 PM
:( :( :(
roque
07-30-2002, 04:49 PM
a friend sent me this story and all i can say is it is sad. Only in texas could 2 good ole boys be this.......not smart. i keep thinking of their families and wondering what they must be going thru cuz this story is all over the place. maybe i should run out of dallas screaming??
cotye
07-30-2002, 06:29 PM
So I suppose they know who's right now?
Originally posted by olena
Ironic
Moronic
disfanatiks
07-30-2002, 06:35 PM
I noticed on at least a couple of threads this morning he posted very short positive "thinking of you" in regular size letters- even a HUG.
hmmm, see I was the one who said just a few short days ago that I knew he had a good heart.....That is my story and I am sticking to it.
On the sad matter of the shooting....very tragic.:(
bfeller
07-30-2002, 06:43 PM
They sure know how to have a heated discussion in Texas.
NHAnn
07-30-2002, 07:48 PM
whoops - just getting back to this from earlier.
Eros, that picture of "you" may look like an alien, but it's more life like than some of those bimbo pictures you post ;) LOL (Can I say bimbo on the DIS?)
NHAnn, HEIDI looks verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry life-like to ME:p :p :p .......PERHAPS your pulse doesn't get pumpin' at the sight of an attractive woman:cool: :cool:
http://members.v3space.com/wildwill/heidi_klum/hk34.jpg
Goofyposter
07-30-2002, 08:04 PM
http://www.boomspeed.com/bicepguy/pukeysmilie.gif
I perfer "real life".....perhaps "everyone" should try it??
Princess_Aurora
07-30-2002, 08:11 PM
Shoot yeah, Texans can argue 'til they're blue in the face...or in this instance, to the death.
I DEFINATLY think a Darwin award is in order here.
For GOOFYPOSTER;) ;) .........you wanted REAL LIFE.........I present SNORTIN' NORTON..........what a handsome guy;) ;) ;) ......
http://www.upprs.com/pictures/snortin%20nortin.jpg
NHAnn
07-30-2002, 08:33 PM
aaaaccckkk! I should've KNOWN my post would provoke something like that :rolleyes: Nope, does nothing for MY pulse, Eros, but the aggravation that I no longer look like that in a bathing suit probably raises my blood pressure a notch. :p
I better be quiet now...off-topic and all that ............
Goofyposter
07-30-2002, 08:42 PM
Groosch errors....
http://www.upprs.com/pictures/snortin%20nortin.jpg
the kindest thing I kan say....is welcome ter real life! .... I dernt think 'Norton' has had mulitple surgical procedures...ter make him attractive ter yer! ;)
Trust me, GOOFY, I have it on EXCELLENT authority that Heidi's body has never been touched by a scalpel;) ;) ;) ;) .........
http://members.v3space.com/wildwill/heidi_klum/hk27.jpg
NHAnn
07-30-2002, 08:50 PM
Hhhhhmmmmpphhhh.........OK, no scalpel, BUT priobably
never borne a child or ate a Dorita or enjoyed an ice cold beer EITHER :p :p :p :p :p
Goofyposter
07-30-2002, 08:56 PM
that's interestin fer yer to say errors.... but sum one in the 'righteously indigant' camp...."might" want ter know yer sources on that!....
.....I really think that fer the moment...yer'd be most comfortable with the 'slop 'em up high crowd'.....
http://www.upprs.com/pictures/snortin%20nortin.jpg
;)
LOL, Ann...........perhaps there's something to be said for ALL of us skipping the DORITOES and BEER......;) ;) ;)
http://members.v3space.com/wildwill/heidi_klum/hk41.jpg
Goofyposter
07-30-2002, 09:17 PM
Groosch errors....!!!??!!!
I hope dernt mean I'm on Yer Ingore list!!!????
GOOFY, you health nut you, how could I put you on an IGNORE list and still provide your much cherished pics of "REAL LIFE"??????;) :rolleyes: .......
http://www.aelinscott.free-online.co.uk/pigs/PIGS6.jpg
Planogirl
07-30-2002, 09:25 PM
Yes these Texans were moronic but I find that this condition stretches well beyond the borders of Texas. :(
Eros, you seem almost.... mellow. ;)
Goofyposter
07-30-2002, 09:29 PM
*tap..tap...tap*
.....hello...hello.....
errors...aren't yer gonna answer me????
:confused:
;)
browneyes
07-30-2002, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by EROS
http://www.upprs.com/pictures/snortin%20nortin.jpg
Now he's the 2nd most gorgeous pic you've ever posted, EROS. He comes 2nd to that hedgehog.:p oink oink
;)
Originally posted by Goofyposter
that's interestin fer yer to say errors.... but sum one in the 'righteously indigant' camp...."might" want ter know yer sources on that!....
Righteously indignant..........sounds about right:p :p :p :p :p .
As for Heidi's surgical history , I'm bound to confidentiality by the Hippocratic Oath................you wouldn't want me to commit any ethical violations, would you???:cool: :cool: :cool:
http://members.v3space.com/wildwill/heidi_klum/hk15.jpg
Goofyposter
07-30-2002, 09:47 PM
Groosch errors....ter hear yer use;
"ethical violations"
"and Hippocrat..."
in ther same post.....
jurst seems kinder natural! ;)
....yerd dew what yer *think* is right
fireplug
07-30-2002, 09:48 PM
Not sure how we got from two drunks in a trailer park in texas shooting it out over heaven and hell TO pictures of Heidi in a swimsuit :confused: :confused: :confused:
Steve
But I like it :bounce: :bounce:
The Mystery Machine
07-30-2002, 10:02 PM
I happen to like Ricolas pics!
Oh and the guys in TX? All I can do is shake my head and chalk it up to way too much liquor! Very sad.....
Deb in IA
07-30-2002, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by fireplug
Not sure how we got from two drunks in a trailer park in texas shooting it out over heaven and hell TO pictures of Heidi in a swimsuit :confused: :confused: :confused:
Because, Steve, nearly every thread that EROS replies to eventually ends up with Heidi in a swim suit . . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
abaldacci
07-30-2002, 10:48 PM
:( so sad
CathyCanada
07-30-2002, 10:55 PM
Can we cease and desist with the name calling please? :rolleyes:
And Bennett aka Zurg, I agree with your moronic comment.
CC
Jeff in BigD
07-31-2002, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by NHAnn
Hhhhhmmmmpphhhh.........OK, no scalpel, BUT priobably
never borne a child or ate a Dorita or enjoyed an ice cold beer EITHER :p :p :p :p :p
Child? Probably not. Doritos? Doubtful. Ice cold beer? Well, maybe not ice cold, but I highly doubt that anyone of the bavarian persuasion has never enjoyed the pure liquid joy of barley & hops :)
snowwhitemom
07-31-2002, 06:33 AM
Thats why we are not allowed to discuss religon at work and trust me I'm in the bible belt. Thats so sad, sorry to hear it happened.:(
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