View Full Version : Does anyone else feel this way?
NJOGRE
02-18-2010, 10:17 AM
With all the free stuff disney is given away these days to get people into the parks, BUY 4 GET 3 FREE, $750 gift card to use in parks for food and etc, Free Dining Does anyone feel the should be doing something for there loyal base of DVCers. I mean we are the ones going back again and again. We are the ones there through think and thin.
Wouldn't be nice to hear from Disney and have them say, Thanks DVCers for supporting us all these years, here are some fee parks passes for your or on your next stay the dining plan is free. Or what if they give us a free Tables in Wonderland Card even if we don;t have an Annual Pass.
Its just the same old story DVCers will keep coming back so noithing free for you. Its almost cheaper and probably is cheaper for me to bank my points and use the promotions. Maybe I will do that and go on the cruise next year? Hmm thats an Idea
Chuck S
02-18-2010, 10:28 AM
While it would be nice, we are certainly not "entitled" to those benefits. They do give us $100/$125 off APs, we don't pay full price for our rooms, like the free dining people, and overall, we are still going cheaper than most of the buy 4 get 3 free people.
Now, if you are happy spending time looking for those specials, and staying in a value resort, then DVC likely isn't the best choice for you...as you will come out cheaper than with DVC. But comparing apples to apples, a DVC resort to a Deluxe class resort, DVC will be cheaper, even with the specials...except for some limited specials offered only to those coming to WDW from Europe.
Inkmahm
02-18-2010, 10:33 AM
If you have an AP, you are currently getting 20% off on almost all purchases at Disney. That is something that we get as the loyal customers which the one time trip people do not. While it isn't specifically DVC related, it is likely that many DVC owners have APs.
NJOGRE
02-18-2010, 10:38 AM
While it would be nice, we are certainly not "entitled" to those benefits. They do give us $100/$125 off APs, we don't pay full price for our rooms, like the free dining people, and overall, we are still going cheaper than most of the buy 4 get 3 free people.
Now, if you are happy spending time looking for those specials, and staying in a value resort, then DVC likely isn't the best choice for you...as you will come out cheaper than with DVC. But comparing apples to apples, a DVC resort to a Deluxe class resort, DVC will be cheaper, even with the specials...except for some limited specials offered only to those coming to WDW from Europe.
BUt now include the free 7 days to the parks and the free dining that comes with it and even with the price of a moderate its cheaper.
NJOGRE
02-18-2010, 10:42 AM
If you have an AP, you are currently getting 20% off on almost all purchases at Disney. That is something that we get as the loyal customers which the one time trip people do not. While it isn't specifically DVC related, it is likely that many DVC owners have APs.
I just came back, I purchased very little except food and I do have my TIW card my bill for just food and this is sit down dinners only and 1 breakfast at CHEF Mickeys was close to $1200 for 2 adults 2 children
Went to
Garden Grill
Portofinos
Turf Club
Yatchsmen Steakhouse
California Grill
1900 Park Fare
Breakfast
Chef Mickeys
Incl: 1 table lunch at Rainforest
No, it doesn't bother me that Disney is offering "specials" to others. We bought into the DVC because it allows us to save money on lodging and it gives us better accommodations than what we would normally book if we were paying cash. In March, we are staying 7 nights at BLT in a Studio MK view. The rack rate for that accommodation is $4,646 w/tax. In September, we are staying 2 nights in a 1-bedroom BLT Standard view, and 5 nights in a 1-bedroom AKV Kidani Savanna view, The rack rates for that trip add up to $5,294.38 w/tax. If it wasn't for DVC, we'd only do one trip to WDW this year, and we'd probably book a regular room at a moderate like CSR or POR. It would be great if Disney offered some additional perks to DVCers, but I don't think I'm "entitled" to stuff just because I bought into the DVC. My only regret about the DVC is that we didn't buy into it sooner.
dvc deernut
02-18-2010, 11:01 AM
FUNNY I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT THAT WAY BUT NOW THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED IT. IM A DISNEYFILE, I HAVE A DISNEY ROOM, I ENJOY SPENDING MONEY AT DISNEY. I WAS IN GRAPHICS FOR 30 YEARS AND HAVE ALWAYS ADMIRED WALT AND WHAT HE HAS DONE. I TRY TO DO ALL THE BACKSTAGE TOURS BECAUSE IM NOT ONLY INTERESTED IN THE ATTRACTION I ENJOY THE HOWS AND WHYS. I ENJOYING SPENDING MONEY AT DISNEY. I ALSO THINK DISNEY IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD AT MARKETING AND HOW TO RUN THINGS. THEY ARE TRYING TO GET MORE PEOPLE INTO THE PARKS AND SPEND MONEY. WITH THE ECONOMY THE WAY IT IS DISNEY IS ALSO A BIG BUSINESS AND HAS TO FIND WAYS TO GET MORE PEOPLE COMING BACK. ITS LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THEY WOULDNT HAVE TO OFFER THESE PACKAGES IF THERE RESORTS WERE FULL. BUT, I KIND OF AGREE WITH YOU.
WE DO THE MEMBER CRUISE EVERY YEAR, WHICH IS DIFFICULT TO GET ON. WE ENJOY IT SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH. VERY SPECIAL IF YOUR A DISNEYFILE LIKE ME. BUT IF YOU TAKE AWAY ALL THE GLITZ OF THE CRUISE, SPECIAL GUESTS ON BOARD AND EVENTS DVC HAS A ROOM THERE FOR YOU TO BUY MORE POINTS.
2 CRUISES AGO WE BOUGHT 250 MORE POINTS BRINGING OUR TOTAL TO ALMOST 600, THEY GAVE US A FREE MEMBER CRUISE THE FOLLOWING YEAR ON AN UPPER BALCONY.
MAYBE IF YOU OR SOMEBODY CALLED HEAD OFFICE OF DVC AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT I WOULD ASSUME YOU WOULD GET ANSWERS. LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IF NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING NOTHING GETS CHANGED.
WELL I BETTER GO PUT ON MY DISNEY MICKEY WATCH, MY COAT WITH ALL THE DISNEY PARKS EMBROIDERED ON THE BACK AND GET IN MY VEHICLE WITH DVC STICKERS ON IT, MICKEY ANTENNA BALL AND ALL THE WINDOW STICKER PEOPLE 2 ADULTS, 2 CHILDREN , A DOG and 3 CATS ON BACK WINDOW AND RUN MY ERRANDS .
dvc deernut
02-18-2010, 11:05 AM
I forgot to mention we bought in in 1998 and wish we bought in earlier also. I dont want anyone to think i was complaining.
casper
02-18-2010, 11:55 AM
It doesn't really bother me. I look at it as though I have more choices. Just because I own DVC doesn't mean I have to stay there when I go to Disney. If the "free tickets" and "free dinning" look like a great value to me, I will book with them and get it (then I can bank points for next years use). But truthfully, I have never done that. Why? Staying at my home resort is just too enjoyable.
bwvBound
02-18-2010, 12:09 PM
It doesn't really bother me. I look at it as though I have more choices. Just because I own DVC doesn't mean I have to stay there when I go to Disney. If the "free tickets" and "free dinning" look like a great value to me, I will book with them and get it (then I can bank points for next years use). But truthfully, I have never done that. Ditto!
JimmyJam838
02-18-2010, 12:42 PM
They do give us $100/$125 off APs
Only at WDW do you get that amount off. Us Disneyland folks only get $20 off APs. And if you are doing a renewal, you don't get anything off.
Deb & Bill
02-18-2010, 12:47 PM
If you want the free deals from Disney, you can always pay for those directly from Disney. Those are only offered to stimulate Disney's economy anyway. You drink the Kool-aid on one of those freebie deals and then they have you hooked. Before long you are paying over $100 a point for DVC.
bumbershoot
02-18-2010, 01:00 PM
We bought in despite knowing about those deals. Doesn't bother me.
And when you read the analysis of some of those deals (especially the gift card one), it's not THAT great a deal anyway.
(OH how I hate that drinking koolaid reference...the origin is so ugly)
sweetdana
02-18-2010, 01:30 PM
I have used AP dis, and free dining. I will look at each trip and go with which ever works the best at the time. Sometimes there promos are AWESOME. Sometimes I mix 1/2 trip one and then the other.
Recently I had book 6 nights in a 1- bedroom with points and 4 nights connected with an AP dis for 96$ a night at FQ. Then . . rented someone else's points at 8$ a point.. bringing a studio at BW to about 90$ a night.
Promos are good.. but then again, renting someone elses poins at 8$ - or 9$ a point, puts a 1 night at the BW WAY below a moderate. I would totally taking walking dis from Epcot over a discounted park ticket.
Having/researching options at the time works the best and having the option to bank is awesome. I think this is the best way.
Also if you took the discount on the 1-bedroom at the BC, no way does it turn out better with Disney Promos than the actual cost of the points divided out. I think the points run about 10$ between MF and today's resale price. (or renting). It is only cheaper if you consider say a moderate promo to a studio at high season.
danielle782001
02-18-2010, 03:47 PM
I forgot to mention we bought in in 1998 and wish we bought in earlier also. I dont want anyone to think i was complaining.
No worries...I get a bit frustrated too...But we do love the accomadations for DVC so we still feel good about the purchase...But I agree it would be nice (not expected) to receive a little something in the way of (maybe a discount on the dining plan during free dining) deal for being a loyal financial supporter and vistor to WDW...
Just a quick story...We own DVC and my best friend does not....We went at the same time during Thanksgiving...We had turkey dinner together...She was on free dining and I got just a bit upset for a moment when I thought we had the same meal and one family got it for free...NOT FAIR...But then I remembered that she was is in a crowded studio and had to go to bed when her kids did....Not us, we had tons of space with a room for the kids to sleep and for the adults to stay awake...And I came home with no dirty clothing...So it is all relative ;)
dmoore22
02-18-2010, 05:00 PM
No worries...I get a bit frustrated too...But we do love the accomadations for DVC so we still feel good about the purchase...But I agree it would be nice (not expected) to receive a little something in the way of (maybe a discount on the dining plan during free dining) deal for being a loyal financial supporter and vistor to WDW...
Just a quick story...We own DVC and my best friend does not....We went at the same time during Thanksgiving...We had turkey dinner together...She was on free dining and I got just a bit upset for a moment when I thought we had the same meal and one family got it for free...NOT FAIR...But then I remembered that she was is in a crowded studio and had to go to bed when her kids did....Not us, we had tons of space with a room for the kids to sleep and for the adults to stay awake...And I came home with no dirty clothing...So it is all relative ;)
Comparing the Disney incentives to DVC is like comparing apples to oranges. We have, on occasion used the AP discount to stay in moderate for a split stay with our DVC but, generally it seems to be timing. Most of the attractive incentives are offered during times when neither my DW or myself can take time off from work. DVC plus AP plus TIW ends up being more economical for us compared to the incentives available when we can travel to WDW.
House_of_Mouse Fan
02-18-2010, 05:36 PM
It doesn't bother me at all. We bought DVC for the long-term and these incentives will likely come to an end once the economy improves.
mom of princessx2
02-18-2010, 05:41 PM
Our friends just asked me the same thing. They are going when we go next month and they got the 4/3 deal.
I wouldn't give up my DVC for any of the specials they are offering but I am glad that the specials are allowing others to enjoy Disney that may not be able to without a discount.
JohnnyB2
02-18-2010, 05:41 PM
During slow times or down years I understand Disneys need for promos and incentives.I would rather see the buy 4 get 3 days free or the $750 promo than the free dining,as IMHO find it harder to get the sought after ADRs.Also with free dining it appears to be more people making ressies every where in case they might be at a different park that day.I know this is not everyone who does this,The other promos I have no problems with:thumbsup2:cool1::cool1:
franandaj
02-18-2010, 05:55 PM
The only thing I don't like about the Free Dining Promo is that it makes it harder to get ADRs. If you think about it from what I've heard, when you stay at the value resorts, you get the quick service dining plan. It's not until you stayed at the Moderate did you get the regular dining plan. I would never use the DDP just because it wouldn't work for us, so my only bother with this promo is that it affects me adversely.
I have no problem with Disney giving away incentives to get people to come to the parks and stay at the hotels. Especially if it takes people out of the DVC resorts, then hopefully I'll have a better chance at getting a room at a resort other than my own at 7 months! :laughing:
Shelly F - Ohio
02-18-2010, 06:57 PM
I would like to see and EMH just for DVC members.
ToddyLu
02-18-2010, 07:04 PM
I would like to see and EMH just for DVC members.
:lmao: and MVMCP/MNSSHP
dianeschlicht
02-19-2010, 06:17 AM
LOL, you know it always makes me wonder when threads like this pop up if this "I'm entitled" attitude is what might be WRONG with DVC.;):rotfl:
BEASLYBOO
02-19-2010, 07:46 AM
As far as Disney, it's the "Why pay for the cow when you can get the milk for free?" syndrome, they don't have to entice us with anything, they've already got us! You are also welcomed at anytime to go on a cash basis and take Disney up on any of their offers. You can keep, bank your points for other types of trips and or cruises.
Crystal_27
02-19-2010, 09:13 AM
I'll take DVC over any discount offered by Disney every time....all I have to do to make myself feel great about DVC is price out an upcoming vacation. For our December, 2010 vacation, paying cash would have cost right at $6,000 versus my $800 in MFs for the year. Even with any discount or gift card that Disney could give me, it wouldn't come *close* to that type of savings. :dance3:
ETA: I actually was mistaken in how much my December, 2010 trip cost. A standard view studio at BLT costs $550/night, so my 14 night stay actually would have cost $7,700 (plus tax), not the $6,000 I mentioned above. Again, there is nothing Disney could offer that beats my getting it for points.
disneynutz
02-19-2010, 09:36 AM
Disney doesn't offer discounts and specials to be nice, they do it to make money.
With DVC members, they give us certain perks that actually doesn't cost them a thing. Discounts at restaurants, many of which aren't Disney owned and a discounted AP. How many days does the average DVC member use their AP, 8 days, 12, 18? How long are they in the parks, and how much do they spend on food and other items? I get the feeling that the discounted price that we pay is still a money maker or Disney Parks wouldn't give us the discount.
:) Bill
DenLo
02-19-2010, 11:00 AM
How many years before you bought into the DVC did you go to WDW and stayed on property without any discounts or freebies? To me the free offers are a sign of the times and poor economy. When things improve the room rates will go up and the free dining will be gone and we'll still have our DVC villas and everyone else will pay dearly to stay at WDW.
dmoore22
02-19-2010, 11:08 AM
I'll take DVC over any discount offered by Disney every time....all I have to do to make myself feel great about DVC is price out an upcoming vacation. For our December, 2010 vacation, paying cash would have cost right at $6,000 versus my $800 in MFs for the year. Even with any discount or gift card that Disney could give me, it wouldn't come *close* to that type of savings. :dance3:
We actually did a similar comparison and found the same thing to be true. The "Three for Free" and "Free DDP" still cost more than our points/MF for our comparable trip this past December. We still came out ahead including the use of TIW instead of the DDP. The deals sound great when you listen to the 15 second sound bite until you get out your calculator. Your paying a non-discounted rack rate for those four days.
acejka
02-19-2010, 11:29 AM
I get what you are saying! And I agree... looks like I'm in the minority though.
I love my DVC and I bought in knowing what I was getting, but it would still be nice to see something like that.
Maybe not as extravagant as an annual pass, but a discount on tickets, or a 2 base ticket or something. Just a little "hey, we appreciate you gesture," it's nice to feel appreciated. And maybe not every year, but once in a while its nice to feel that way.
Now I would never take part in those 4/3 deals of free dining because I am spoiled by the size and the ammenities of the rooms I get to stay in now, and I couldn't justify paying $300 a night out of pocket for them, and there is no turning back to a normal hotel room at disney now ;).
hakepb
02-19-2010, 11:44 AM
Disney's main marketing focus in offering promotions is getting people on site. In regards to that focus, DVC happens to be the best promotion Disney has ever offered.
I do sometimes wonder why Disney does not work harder to upsell us on package add-ons (i.e discounted DDP or tickets). I think DVC's desire to treat everyone equally, year round perhaps prevents Disney from offering us some better occasional or seasonal promotions.
Deb & Bill
02-19-2010, 12:18 PM
... Just a little "hey, we appreciate you gesture," it's nice to feel appreciated. ...
But they don't appreciate us. They appreciate our dollars.
Chuck S
02-19-2010, 01:39 PM
Disney's main marketing focus in offering promotions is getting people on site. In regards to that focus, DVC happens to be the best promotion Disney has ever offered.
I do sometimes wonder why Disney does not work harder to upsell us on package add-ons (i.e discounted DDP or tickets). I think DVC's desire to treat everyone equally, year round perhaps prevents Disney from offering us some better occasional or seasonal promotions.
Wouldn't seasonal specials, like free dining for DVC, also have the potential to knock the demand further out of balance, leading to further, and more severe, point chart reallocations?
Crystal_27
02-19-2010, 02:06 PM
I do sometimes wonder why Disney does not work harder to upsell us on package add-ons (i.e discounted DDP or tickets).
Well, I personally think that the argument can be made that Disney *is* giving us discounted DDP this year in that we don't have to pay the holiday surcharges during peak periods. Sure, not everyone who is a DVC member gets to take advantage of the "discount" but, I am sure appreciative that Disney is giving it. :goodvibes
hakepb
02-19-2010, 03:17 PM
Wouldn't seasonal specials, like free dining for DVC, also have the potential to knock the demand further out of balance, leading to further, and more severe, point chart reallocations?
I do not think there would ever be a reason for free DDP on points (unless it was combined with some "tour a day" package that cost more than DDP) I was just rembering my pre-DVC days where I'd book a value, call back to change something, then getting offered (because of Disney Visa) a discounted DDP (i.e $29 instead of $39/day, although back in the day it was more like $25 instead of $32/day) Sometimes I wish we were offered a discounted DDP, too.
dmoore22
02-19-2010, 04:18 PM
Well, I personally think that the argument can be made that Disney *is* giving us discounted DDP this year in that we don't have to pay the holiday surcharges during peak periods. Sure, not everyone who is a DVC member gets to take advantage of the "discount" but, I am sure appreciative that Disney is giving it. :goodvibes
My kids seem to be surgically attached to their computers. Not having to pay for their internet access free's up some cash for other things. The DVC discounts individually do not appear to be much but when added together they count for a significant amount of change over the course of a vacation.
4HOLIDAYS
02-19-2010, 05:47 PM
I wish I had bought more (have 300) and earlier (2005). We stay at other resorts when we run out of points and sincewe have fla res, ap discounts it still works out to get the best of both worlds. I booked 5 weeknights in May ,1br,at BCV but did not have enough for FR, SAT, got it at passholder rate for 288 a night. Can't beat that. I think for us it evens out.
franandaj
02-20-2010, 12:19 AM
The bottom line is that we all bought in for the right to make reservations on our points, not for perks and other things. Perhaps those who bought in when the free passes and free valet parking were available have reasons to complain, but we didn't buy in for possible perks, just accomodations which are top notch.
We could certainly take advantage of the offers for lesser accomodations and pay cash, but if I stayed in studios I might consider it. We always stay in 1 br + at WDW because we want the kitchen so there's no comparison for us. At GCV we are staying in studios but that's only becuase we only live 20 min away and just the fact of staying overnight is a total luxury.
While any DVC perks would be nice (and I know we have some) I don't expect anything other than the ability to make reservations because that's all they guaranteed us.
rutgers1
02-20-2010, 01:45 AM
I am in the "more perks" group. Contrary to what many people say, I don't think that DVC is a "no brainer" for most folks. If I didn't own DVC, I would be visiting Disney every other year at most, and the span between visits would undoubtedly increase as my kids got older. I would have been perfectly content to stay at a moderate resort. However, now that we are members, Disney is getting a much larger share of our vacation dollars than they would have previously - and they are getting it for decades. That's why you see DVC being advertised all around the parks.
So, with that said, and knowing that DVC is such a money maker to warrant advertisements and kiosks all over the place, I don't mind requesting more perks. I'm not talking anything extraordinary, but I'd like to see things added each year, and perhaps some of the less popular ones dropped.
dmoore22
02-20-2010, 10:24 AM
I wish I had bought more (have 300) and earlier (2005). We stay at other resorts when we run out of points and sincewe have fla res, ap discounts it still works out to get the best of both worlds. I booked 5 weeknights in May ,1br,at BCV but did not have enough for FR, SAT, got it at passholder rate for 288 a night. Can't beat that. I think for us it evens out.
I agree. There is a ripple effect in discounts/perks with DVC. We purchase our AP with the DVC discount. Now we have the AP discounts and benefits in addition to the DVC perks. Being an AP holder we can get the TIW card which provides additional dining discounts and access to TIW events. For our family the AP discounts more than cover the cost of TIW with $$$$ left over. Considering our dining habits the TIW is a better deal for us than the DDP. Love the discounted libations! Of course we can get discounts at select merchandise and dining establishments at DTD. Then, if we choose to drive to the parks we park for free. If you really examine it you will find that the perks are there -- hiding in plain sight.
Sandisw
02-20-2010, 10:38 AM
I actually am not bothered by it at all. Matter of fact, I like NOT having to read the boards and hear about all those pin codes, knowing I wasn't getting one.
I have looked at my DVC investment in so many ways and as others have said, it is for the long term and years of Disney trips.
For someone who is planning the occasional trips to WDW, the current discounts are great. But, for us, over the long haul, we make out.
Even if I only look at it for the next 10 years, my MF's and initial investment, are the SAME as what I would be paying if I continued to go my 6 nights in a CR tower room with a 30% discount.
And, instead of staying in a hotel room, this assumes I will be in a 1 bedroom most of the time.
So, I guess, I am getting some of those discounts--not quite the same as 4/3 but pretty close. The only difference is I am locked in to the discount and don't have to worry about Disney changing it (which they will as the economy gets better). Even the free dining codes this year are only offering QS at the values so things are not as good as last year.
Of course, after 10 years, I will still own DVC, will still be going 6 nights, for only the cost of MF's (about 70% discount) at that point--not to shabby, if you ask me!
But, I do agree--if you feel that banking your points, and going with one of the cash deals works out better for you--go for it! DVC offers you the flexibility to do that!
Judique
02-20-2010, 12:30 PM
With all the free stuff disney is given away these days to get people into the parks, BUY 4 GET 3 FREE, $750 gift card to use in parks for food and etc, Free Dining Does anyone feel the should be doing something for there loyal base of DVCers. I mean we are the ones going back again and again. We are the ones there through think and thin.
Wouldn't be nice to hear from Disney and have them say, Thanks DVCers for supporting us all these years, here are some fee parks passes for your or on your next stay the dining plan is free. Or what if they give us a free Tables in Wonderland Card even if we don;t have an Annual Pass.
Its just the same old story DVCers will keep coming back so noithing free for you. Its almost cheaper and probably is cheaper for me to bank my points and use the promotions. Maybe I will do that and go on the cruise next year? Hmm thats an Idea
No, I don't feel that way.
I have specific likes. I like to stay in Villas. I don't like huge lines for checkin, which I've had to endure at Pop and Moderates. And I like my surroundings to be fun, whimsical and still geared to adults as well as children.
And, I want to stay 2 nights at BLT in April. 50 points for Bay Lake view. $1204 cash. The 50 points cost me about $375 with buy in and dues. Even if I got the room 1/2 price with some discount right before Easter , I'd still have a hefty 2 night food budget left over.
I'm getting what I paid for, plus some perks. I'm happy.
dmoore22
02-20-2010, 01:26 PM
No, I don't feel that way.
I have specific likes. I like to stay in Villas. I don't like huge lines for checkin, which I've had to endure at Pop and Moderates. And I like my surroundings to be fun, whimsical and still geared to adults as well as children.
And, I want to stay 2 nights at BLT in April. 50 points for Bay Lake view. $1204 cash. The 50 points cost me about $375 with buy in and dues. Even if I got the room 1/2 price with some discount right before Easter , I'd still have a hefty 2 night food budget left over.
I'm getting what I paid for, plus some perks. I'm happy.
I couldn't say it any better! :thumbsup2
Lynne M
02-20-2010, 02:30 PM
It seems to me that people sometimes have trouble leaving the 'hotel' mindset behind when they buy a timeshare. It's an entirely different economic arrangement, which is very obvious when you read the contract (though I know many, if not most, buyers, have never done that).
When I purchased my DVC contract, I bought real estate from a real estate developer: Disney Vacation Development. That's who my contract is with. Not Disney Parks, not Walt Disney Travel Company. They share a parent company, but they are different business units with their own budgets and financial goals. That big "Disney" that people refer to, as in "Disney should show some appreciation", or "I paid so much money to Disney, so they should give me stuff"....doesn't exist. Not in the way that some seem to think it does. Like all major companies, Disney is a collection of separate, smaller business units that operate independently, and sometimes have common goals, but the money is separate.
The money I paid to purchase DVC, and the dues I pay, go to DVD. Why should WDTC give me the free dining package they offer? I don't give them a thin dime. They don't know what I spend on DVC, and they don't care, since they're not getting any of that money.
OK, then should DVD "show their appreciation" by paying WDTC to give me free dining? That argument makes no sense to me at all. It's like buying a condo from a real estate developer and then deciding that they should show their appreciation by giving me hundreds of dollars worth of free food on a regular basis. What possible business reason would they have for doing that?
dennis j
02-20-2010, 09:38 PM
I like your saying Casper about SSR! Nothing on Boardwalk compares to the quick service meals offered at Artist Pallette. Only place on Boardwalk for quick service meals is at the BW Bakery. The BW Bakery is good, but small and gets over crowded very quickly. Disney really does need to add another quick service type restaurant on the BW. Lots of good sit down restaurants on BW though. YUM!
BEASLYBOO
02-22-2010, 09:33 AM
It seems to me that people sometimes have trouble leaving the 'hotel' mindset behind when they buy a timeshare. It's an entirely different economic arrangement, which is very obvious when you read the contract (though I know many, if not most, buyers, have never done that).
Well said. In fact I think it's why some owners expect "deluxe"accomodations and are disapointed, yes, it's Disney (DVC), but it's still a timeshare.
disneynutz
02-22-2010, 09:53 AM
Well said. In fact I think it's why some owners expect "deluxe"accomodations and are disapointed, yes, it's Disney (DVC), but it's still a timeshare.
Just because it's a timeshare it doesn't mean that we should be satisfied with rooms that aren't cleaned and stocked properly and problems caused by MS.
BEASLYBOO
02-22-2010, 10:00 AM
Just because it's a timeshare it doesn't mean that we should be satisfied with rooms that aren't cleaned and stocked properly and problems caused by MS.
I totally agree with you :thumbsup2
danielle782001
02-22-2010, 03:06 PM
Just because it's a timeshare it doesn't mean that we should be satisfied with rooms that aren't cleaned and stocked properly and problems caused by MS.
I totally agree with you :thumbsup2
I agree as well
dmoore22
02-22-2010, 03:35 PM
Just because it's a timeshare it doesn't mean that we should be satisfied with rooms that aren't cleaned and stocked properly and problems caused by MS.
Who says we are? We've never had cause for concern in our ten years as owners. Rooms have always been fresh, clean, well appointed and stocked. MS has always treated us like a guest. My mother-in-law could learn a thing or two from them.
PEANUT1
02-22-2010, 03:46 PM
The only thing that I have been really bugged by is the loss of free valet parking..I really loved that. I will never valet in disney again.
photobob
02-22-2010, 03:51 PM
To the OP remarks, I don't feel that DVC members should be getting any special deals because the economy has hit the travel industry, they already have us. I do think it would make me think twice if I were currently thinking about buying. As long as they need to offer deep discounts to get people in rooms, they will. When things improve and demand goes up the discounts will be scaled back.
To the OP remarks, I don't feel that DVC members should be getting any special deals because the economy has hit the travel industry, they already have us. I do think it would make me think twice if I were currently thinking about buying. As long as they need to offer deep discounts to get people in rooms, they will. When things improve and demand goes up the discounts will be scaled back.
It would be nice if Disney offered any rewards program like other major hotel chains.
Chuck S
02-22-2010, 04:32 PM
It would be nice if Disney offered any rewards program like other major hotel chains.
Does any timeshare offer a rewards program? I would assume those award programs are designed for cash guests, to encourage brand loyalty in their spending for lodging. With DVC, we've already decided on brand loyalty.
Not sure if any time share offer rewards program but was more of a general statement then a specific dvc one. Mostly I have been satisfied with dvc and the resorts I own or have stayed at but oh for the days of free park passes lol
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