River Country update

[DisCamper]

As we posted months ago, there was a geological survey team doing their thing around River Country. About two and a half weeks ago, a second fence went up in front of the first fence closer to the entrance. It had signs all over it saying 'hard hat area'. Couple days later heavy equipment started moving in. River Country has historically been very well lit at night but for the past week it has been completely dark. I wonder if this means they are tearing it down?

[disney4dan]

Something new to watch!

popcorn::

TCD, where are you?

[DaveInTN]

Exciting! popcorn::

[liv luvs disney]

Hmmm...:scratchin

[LORNADUCK]

Is Todd going to be watching this for us??? R U still there???????

[BradyBz12]

OMG, where is super spy TCD when you need him? :cool2:

popcorn::

[brittanyherndon]

wht is the admision to get into river county.

[OK GRUMPY]

Oh my very interesting! Were is TCD?

[AuburnJen92]

wht is the admision to get into river county.

Payment to a Bail Bondsmen.;)

(you can't get in dear, it has been closed)

[tinah159]

My daughter begins Career Start on Monday. I will put her on the case!

[brittanyherndon]

Payment to a Bail Bondsmen.;)

(you can't get in dear, it has been closed)

Darn cna't belive it closed I am so disaponed

[Colston69]

Yeah, we were really disaponed when we found out it was closed too.

:lmao:

[Colston69]

Payment to a Bail Bondsmen.;)

(you can't get in dear, it has been closed)

$20 would get you a decent sized ladder at Lowe's.

[brittanyherndon]

Yeah, we were really disaponed when we found out it was closed too.

my seconed choice is typhone logone.

is there a discount if u enter after 4? Just wondering. Or should we just go on our last day. Is there a full day exciment at Typhone logone?

[Colston69]

my seconed choice is typhone logone.

is there a discount if u enter after 4? Just wondering. Or should we just go on our last day. Is there a full day exciment at Typhone logone?

I don't think there's a phone at the lagone, but you could try email.

[brittanyherndon]

I don't think there's a phone at the lagone, but you could try email.

Did I miss typ somthing again. What does a phone have to do with my post I am totaly lost sry/

[disneylovin24]

popcorn:: That's intresting, I'll be at FW on Wednesday and now I'm going to make sure I head over in that direction. I'm also gonig to be eating at Trail's End a few times this upcoming week and I think everyone knows that if you get the right server there you can get info;)

[SandrA9810]

sounds like a quest. I'll try asking around too. I haven't been to the fort in a while. I usually wind up at the lodge because it's been cold out.

[flamtap]

As we posted months ago, there was a geological survey team doing their thing around River Country. About two and a half weeks ago, a second fence went up in front of the first fence closer to the entrance. It had signs all over it saying 'hard hat area'. Couple days later heavy equipment started moving in. River Country has historically been very well lit at night but for the past week it has been completely dark. I wonder if this means they are tearing it down?

I took this photo today because I noticed the equipment. It wasn't doing anything at the time.

http://flamtap.org/IMG_1021.JPG

flamtap

[DaveInTN]

Nice job flamtap! :thumbsup2

[I'mDownWithDisney]

I took this photo today because I noticed the equipment. It wasn't doing anything at the time.

http://flamtap.org/IMG_1021.JPG

flamtap

Oh uh....a trackhoe...probably with a thumb attached. Goodbye, RC! Looks like TCD's pics made an impact on someone.

[DaveInTN]

Or maybe Disney is using the equipment to bury TCD at RC! :scared1:

[Gatordad]

Did I miss typ somthing again. What does a phone have to do with my post I am totaly lost sry/

i em gouing to gow to rivr contry and help to gets sum picters of the perk.

[Colston69]

i em gouing to gow to rivr contry and help to gets sum picters of the perk.

Do you think there will be a full day exciment in that?

[Gatordad]

Do you think there will be a full day exciment in that?

prebly, butt i woud nede two seee if it wus okey

[kazlac4]

i em gouing to gow to rivr contry and help to gets sum picters of the perk.

:lmao:

[disneylovin24]

OK, you're in charge of keeping the rest of us informed! :thumbsup2

Now don't put too much pressure on me;)

Of course if I figure something out or take pictures I will post:thumbsup2

[itch1]

They are doing just that destroying the evidence !
Disney doesnt like to made a fool.
I am just curious about Tri Circle, I look forward to our April visit even more now!!!!!!!!!!!

[Just Beachy]

Disney...look foolish? I'm SURE that's NEVER happened before! :rolleyes1

[FloridaDisneyFan]

We will be at Bay Lake Tower Feb 13-17 for our anniversary. We will make sure to take a boat ride or two over that way to check things out.

[SinceDay1]

It is a shame they did not keep it, I was there about a short time after it opened and back then it was awesome and is greatly missed. I was there this past Dec. 16-21 and showed my DD and DW where it was and since my DW and I will be back in 2 weeks, I will be back at the location seeing what is going on. Thanks for the updates.

[SandrA9810]

his pics made it to the newspaper.

the orlando sentinal does a theme park ranger section. They didn't show any of his pics, but they listed two links, both showing his photos.

[I'mDownWithDisney]

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am starting to think that TCD has been threatened and muzzled.:confused3

[BRDof3]

Well, his ID is still active and receiving PM's, but his profile shows no activity since 12/10/09. Where he goes, only the shadow knows. :confused3

[DaveInTN]

Well, his ID is still active and receiving PM's, but his profile shows no activity since 12/10/09. Where he goes, only the shadow knows. :confused3

I think his last post was a response to my trip report. Maybe it's MY fault!

[liv luvs disney]

I think his last post was a response to my trip report. Maybe it's MY fault!

That figures...thanks Dave.:rolleyes1

[Shan-man]

I think his last post was a response to my trip report. Maybe it's MY fault!

Hey! That floats... must be a WITCH! Burn DAVE!!!

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/SLSettles/Web%20Graphics/ShantaClausSm.png

[AuburnJen92]

Hey! That floats... must be a WITCH! Burn DAVE!!!

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/SLSettles/Web%20Graphics/ShantaClausSm.png

:rotfl:

[DaveInTN]

Hey! That floats... must be a WITCH! Burn DAVE!!!

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/SLSettles/Web%20Graphics/ShantaClausSm.png

:scared1:

[SandrA9810]

they've got several pieces of heavy equipment back there going. And lots of security. As i was walking back there was an older couple headed there too. Well as they were walking back past the ticket booth, a security guy in a car stopped them and talked to them for a while. I was still at the pavillion, and kinda hid until the guy left. I was scared of getting talked to. He drove on the dirt path between trails end and the pavillion and on into a gated area and i made my escape.
But i did snap a picture of them tearing down the building with the bathrooms, they had part of the original fence open, but i couldn't see past it.
on the boat ride, there were a couple pieces on the far shore of the lake, so it was hidden by the trees until you were past it. They also have a fence up around pool area, dividing it from the lake. There's still everything it the lake, as far as i can tell. I haven't found any one to talk to yet though.

[kazlac4]

they've got several pieces of heavy equipment back there going. And lots of security. As i was walking back there was an older couple headed there too. Well as they were walking back past the ticket booth, a security guy in a car stopped them and talked to them for a while. I was still at the pavillion, and kinda hid until the guy left. I was scared of getting talked to. He drove on the dirt path between trails end and the pavillion and on into a gated area and i made my escape.
But i did snap a picture of them tearing down the building with the bathrooms, they had part of the original fence open, but i couldn't see past it.
on the boat ride, there were a couple pieces on the far shore of the lake, so it was hidden by the trees until you were past it. They also have a fence up around pool area, dividing it from the lake. There's still everything it the lake, as far as i can tell. I haven't found any one to talk to yet though.

Thanks for the update..The mystery continues:tiptoe:

[chartle]

Shouldn't there be a plan on file somewhere?

I have read posts on this board where they list all the permits that WDW files with whatever planning commission.

It seems that whenever they do anything they have file a plan. I swore I read one that said something like

[silly mode on]

Plan to pick a paint chip to repaint the bathrooms.

[silly mode off]

so why haven't we seen these plans for what is major construction. :confused3

[BradyBz12]

maybe they don't need permits to just bulldoze/fill in the place, since they're not actually "building" anything or changing anything re: electrical, plumbing, etc. (lots of permits posted for that kind of stuff) :confused3

[I'mDownWithDisney]

Someone needs to stroll in there wearing a pair of khakis, a blue dress shirt, and a brand new hardhat.....they will assume it is someone from management.:cool1:

[mamaloya]

Shouldn't there be a plan on file somewhere?

I have read posts on this board where they list all the permits that WDW files with whatever planning commission.

It seems that whenever they do anything they have file a plan. I swore I read one that said something like

[silly mode on]

Plan to pick a paint chip to repaint the bathrooms.

[silly mode off]

so why haven't we seen these plans for what is major construction. :confused3

I thought I read a thread not too long ago (I think Carol posted it maybe) about renovations at the fort. It was very vague and nondescriptive. Maybe this is falling under that plan and the vagueness was to keep some big secret of some sort. I think we were all presuming it was altering the trading posts or something to that affect. I will see if I can find that thread.

[Tigger1966]

popcorn::

[shoreline99]

popcorn::

Seriously. Inquiring minds want to know... :lol:

[SandrA9810]

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss31/SandrA9810/rivercountry.jpg

[SandrA9810]

the fence in front is the new fence. The building they're taking down, is the old cast office and the bathrooms. They seem to only be demolishing half of it, not the whole thing.
And on the right side, just above the front fence is the original fence that was placed around it. Just off to the side of the pic, is where they opened up the original fence.
There were like a half dozen people working back there, so I didn't want any one to come over to me.

[Shan-man]

Wow, that sucks!

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/SLSettles/Web%20Graphics/ShantaClausSm.png

[daddyphat808]

I hate to see that. As bad as it was to see it rotting away I think it is worse to see it tore out. I always had hopes that it would be a super pool for the Fort.

[truck1]

maybe they don't need permits to just bulldoze/fill in the place, since they're not actually "building" anything or changing anything re: electrical, plumbing, etc. (lots of permits posted for that kind of stuff) :confused3

Shouldn't there be a plan on file somewhere?

I have read posts on this board where they list all the permits that WDW files with whatever planning commission.

It seems that whenever they do anything they have file a plan. I swore I read one that said something like

[silly mode on]

Plan to pick a paint chip to repaint the bathrooms.

[silly mode off]

so why haven't we seen these plans for what is major construction. :confused3

Something is definitely up (obviously.) Its a matter of looking in the right spot to find where the permits are hiding.

Anytime someone does anytype of construction or demolition on Disney Property or anywhere else, there needs to be a permit pulled, detailing the who what where when and why.Its for a few reasons.
1 is taxable value.Anytime something gets built or demod, it changes the taxable value of the land.
2 is legality.When demoing,or building if something happend, the powers that be want to know who to send the lawyers after.
3 Safety, from a public safety standpoint, for example, when Walmart bought and remodeled a supermarket next to an exisiting store,near where I work, they took down a few walls, and rearranged the fire protection system more than once.They had to provide in detail in the demo and rebuild phase, exactly what they were doing, when and how they were doing it, as well as how long and where the temp standpipes and risers were, and how long they were going to be there.

[RockinDisney]

Interesting

[RocklandRVers]

I think what is most intriguing about this story has been the timing. First, just before the holidays, TCD does one of his best undercover investigative photo journals that is so interesting that it spills over into the main stream media. Then we mysteriously stop hearing from him in mid December. He does see some Fort Fiends and mentions he will be very busy and may not be posting for a while. Again sort of out of character from someone who seemed to visit several times a year and was able to uncover secrets on every trip. Now all of a sudden we have activity in River Country which has had nothing of substance going on since it closed some 10 years ago. My question to all of you is "are these pieces of the RC puzzle unrelated"? :confused3 I vote NO. Stay tuned. Where is Geraldo Rivera when you need him? ;)

[daddyphat808]

Geraldo Rivera is still trying to get into Capones's vault!

[dsanner106]

I wonder why no one at Disney has thought to call this demolition land, they can charge the standard one day admission price. You get to operate heavy equipment, knock down buildings, dig big holes, bury stuff. pour asphalt and concrete, and then they can open construction land..... I know my kids would beg to go :rotfl2:

Drew

[RockinDisney]

I wonder why no one at Disney has thought to call this demolition land, they can charge the standard one day admission price. You get to operate heavy equipment, knock down buildings, dig big holes, bury stuff. pour asphalt and concrete, and then they can open construction land..... I know my kids would beg to go :rotfl2:

Drew

Can you imagine the lines? Have a bad day at one of the other parks, no problem- go to Demolition land and relieve your tension :jumping1::rotfl:

[mnsprk]

I don't know how much of what Disney does has to be "Public" info. They are in the Reedy Creek Improvement District (formed by Disney and the Board Members are Disney employees)..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reedy_Creek_Improvement_District

This is an interesting read!

[shoreline99]

I think what is most intriguing about this story has been the timing. First, just before the holidays, TCD does one of his best undercover investigative photo journals that is so interesting that it spills over into the main stream media. Then we mysteriously stop hearing from him in mid December. He does see some Fort Fiends and mentions he will be very busy and may not be posting for a while. Again sort of out of character from someone who seemed to visit several times a year and was able to uncover secrets on every trip. Now all of a sudden we have activity in River Country which has had nothing of substance going on since it closed some 10 years ago. My question to all of you is "are these pieces of the RC puzzle unrelated"? :confused3 I vote NO. Stay tuned. Where is Geraldo Rivera when you need him? ;)

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE :cool2:

[chartle]

I don't know how much of what Disney does has to be "Public" info. They are in the Reedy Creek Improvement District (formed by Disney and the Board Members are Disney employees)..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reedy_Creek_Improvement_District

This is an interesting read!

They arn't their own city though, from the Wikipedia page

The RCID includes the cities of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista

What I was referring to was there is someone on these boards who looks up the plans that Disney still has to file with the local government. The last ones I remember seemed very basic like rearranging some trailers at FW.

My post about having to file a plan to pick a paint color was in jest, but it seems like anything that involves earth moving equipment should have a plan.

[PrincessKsMom]

Wow, looked at the pictures. Fascinating, but I don't think there's any mystery behind TCD's disappearance. I'm assuming since the photos went public there is a cease and desist and the threat of prosecution for trespassing. Seems like there were numerous opportunities for TCD to get seriously injured and I'm sure Disney wants to make sure others don't take it upon themselves to do the same.

[clkelley]

They arn't their own city though, from the Wikipedia page



What I was referring to was there is someone on these boards who looks up the plans that Disney still has to file with the local government. The last ones I remember seemed very basic like rearranging some trailers at FW.

My post about having to file a plan to pick a paint color was in jest, but it seems like anything that involves earth moving equipment should have a plan.

Yes, if you go to Mouseplanet.com and see their weekly update, they do search and post construction permits filings. However, the timeframe when the permit is applied for, filed, and actually posted on web varies greatly. Some of the more minor work is done and completed before it even shows up on mouseplanet. I would imagine that in the next few weeks, we'll see what the construction permit is about. However, let me note, that I read through over a year of construction permits notices before the updates began at Fort Wilderness, and nothing was mentioned except the expansion of 600 and the pool. So apparently, adding asphalt to existing sites doesn't count.

[ftwildernessguy]

There are no coincidences in war.

[Shan-man]

Wow, looked at the pictures. Fascinating, but I don't think there's any mystery behind TCD's disappearance. I'm assuming since the photos went public there is a cease and desist and the threat of prosecution for trespassing. Seems like there were numerous opportunities for TCD to get seriously injured and I'm sure Disney wants to make sure others don't take it upon themselves to do the same.

Speaking for myself, if a Cease and Desist landed on my doorstep the threats from Disney would be the least of my worries... it would be the threats from my wife that would force me off the boards! I would be pretty surprised if all of this traced back to him though, as he is very cautious about his real identity... almost as much as FtWildernessGuy is about his occupation! Unless of course he was caught on the grounds. Hopefully the reports of him expecting to be real busy are all that's behind his absence.

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/SLSettles/Web%20Graphics/ShantaClausSm.png

[stacktester]

What will they do if I kayak over to Discovery Island? Implode it and make it disappear? We shall see lol. If I suspect what's going on at RC is correct we may have a nice view of flat land soon. Nothing against TCD but I think he swung the wreckin ball on RC. Too many people have gone in and taken pics.

[DaveInTN]

What will they do if I kayak over to Discovery Island? Implode it and make it disappear? We shall see lol.
Ben would just have to go down in the ice cave, turn the big wheel and move the island.

Can you tell I'm excited that LOST is on tonight? :banana:

[des1954]

Ben would just have to go down in the ice cave, turn the big wheel and move the island.

Can you tell I'm excited that LOST is on tonight? :banana:

Last weeks' episodes really left me very LOST!!!

Maybe that's what the Disney Imagineers are up to.....creating "Lost Land" outta the old RC?? That's the place you can take family members that are irritating you...send them in....and a character representing "Ben" will banish them to "the island".....never to be seen or heard from again! I would sell a kidney and a lung for that attraction! :lmao:

[LONE-STAR]

Ben would just have to go down in the ice cave, turn the big wheel and move the island.

Can you tell I'm excited that LOST is on tonight? :banana:

True but watching LOST is like watching nothing because you are still lost when its over.:confused3 Crazy show.

I agree with Donnie I think TCD finished off River Country but its not his fault. Disney needs to clean up its own mess. I would rather them rebuilt it but it needed to be cleaned up. Maybe they can put in a counter service for us or a golf cart trail to the lodge there.

[JennMouse32]

any thought to the idea of them actaully rebuilding RC? they know how to do a water park sucessfully now, maybe they are taking the same basis for RC, and updated it to the Disney Standards?

[LONE-STAR]

any thought to the idea of them actaully rebuilding RC? they know how to do a water park sucessfully now, maybe they are taking the same basis for RC, and updated it to the Disney Standards?

Dought it due to the fact that it has no parking lot so it makes it hard for people to get to from other resorts. But I wish they would due somthing cool with it and not just demo it and fence it off.

[JennMouse32]

well maybe they are doing something with it, hence the demo and fence

[SandrA9810]

todays weather was miserable... maybe later in the week i can get back over there and snap a few more pictures.

[des1954]

Oh dear Lord!!! TCD's pictures had absolutely nothing to do with the demo going on at RC. There were other websites that had similar pictures long before the ones that TCD posted. As to where TCD is...he likes to keep a low profile and in all probability lurks now and again, but has nothing of interest to post.

My guess on the R.C. demo is this....

R.C. was slated for demo long before now, but 3 hurricanes in 2004 forced Disney to use the money slated for the R.C. demo to the clean-up and restoration of the Fort. (Disney is self-insured, so no insurance $$$). Then, the remodeling/upgrade project (that was scheduled well in advance of it actually occurring) was done. Now that everything else is out of the way, the R.C. demo is happening.

Actually, I hope they turn the area into a food court and make Trail's End a full service restaurant.

[Born 2 Fish]

I agree Disney doesn't make this kind of thing happen this quick. TCD's report was just bad/good timing.

OOPS this is me, Denise.....

[LONE-STAR]

Oh dear Lord!!! TCD's pictures had absolutely nothing to do with the demo going on at RC. There were other websites that had similar pictures long before the ones that TCD posted. As to where TCD is...he likes to keep a low profile and in all probability lurks now and again, but has nothing of interest to post.

My guess on the R.C. demo is this....

R.C. was slated for demo long before now, but 3 hurricanes in 2004 forced Disney to use the money slated for the R.C. demo to the clean-up and restoration of the Fort. (Disney is self-insured, so no insurance $$$). Then, the remodeling/upgrade project (that was scheduled well in advance of it actually occurring) was done. Now that everything else is out of the way, the R.C. demo is happening.

Actually, I hope they turn the area into a food court and make Trail's End a full service restaurant.

I agree Disney doesn't make this kind of thing happen this quick. TCD's report was just bad/good timing.

OOPS this is me, Denise.....

Most likely your both right about the timing. But it makes you wonder if TCD got a tip about it getting demolished. Maybe he really is a super secret reporter.?????

[BradyBz12]

Actually, I hope they turn the area into a food court and make Trail's End a full service restaurant.

From your lips, Debbie!!! :thumbsup2

[DaveInTN]

As to where TCD is...he likes to keep a low profile and in all probability lurks now and again, but has nothing of interest to post.
I have nothing interesting to say, and yet I post all the time. :confused3

But in all seriousness, I do think you are right. I hope he returns at some point, as I really enjoy his posts, photos and reports. But, and this is sometimes hard to remember, there IS more to life than the Fort and the DISboards, and I bet he's exploring other things and enjoying other campgrounds. I hope he is doing well and enjoying whatever is occupying his time these days, and I look forward to the eventual return of TCD.

[itch1]

I too look forward to TCD return, and I will miss RC.
I would hope they might put the third pool they have talked about for years, maybe something cool. And since I cant ride my skateboard anymore maybe they could put a skate park in for us old farts and the kids away from everyone.
Lots of ideas just hope they do something for US.
itch1
I found my old pictures of RC and will post them as soon as I find someone who still has a scanner. They are from the late 70's and early 80's

[Old Snipe]

We're here at the Fort now and I noticed last night going by RC on the boat there were some high intensity lights on. Maybe to keep people out at night?

Best Regards!

[DisCamper]

If Cheryle didn't drop her brand new camera we would have some great pics. I can tell you this all most all the trucks coming and going have magnetic signs that say River Country Project. The survey team started surveying about a mounth or two before TCD posted his pics so we can't blame him.

[ynottony99]

I can tell you this all most all the trucks coming and going have magnetic signs that say River Country Project.

Really?

[stacktester]

I saw TCD NYE and to my knowledge he wasn't in trouble. This was his biggest mission yet and I think he's just resting up for a new adventure. It will be sad to see RC bulldozed but like the train, produce truck and other things it's time is over and it's a breeding ground for snakes and mosquitoes.

[Born 2 Fish]

We're here at the Fort now and I noticed last night going by RC on the boat there were some high intensity lights on. Maybe to keep people out at night?

Best Regards!

I think Jack Bauer is filming the latest episode of 24 there,,,hence the high intensity lights. At the end of the episode they are gonna BLOW the whole place up, :banana:

this is not Denise.

[des1954]

I think Jack Bauer is filming the latest episode of 24 there,,,hence the high intensity lights. At the end of the episode they are gonna BLOW the whole place up, :banana:

this is not Denise.

Fact is stranger than fiction, Frank. In 1981 after 2-3 years of work to build I-75 from Tampa to Naples, a film company came to Sarasota & the State of Florida DOT asking if they could remove a newly built overpass in east Sarasota. In its place they would build an identical prop, blow it up, clean up the mess, and replace the original overpass. It brought lots of $$$ to Sarasota - so wish granted!

In 1981 a farming area of Sarasota near the interstate was painted PINK and a movie town was born. In the summer of 1981, the overpass was blown up by dynamite in a scene from the movie. Our home at the time was close enough to be awakened at 1:00am from the blast.

The name of the movie? Honky Tonk Freeway. We suffered with that "Pink Town" for years, cause the farmers thought it brought a lot of business their way. Maybe it did??

Read all about it: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1798&dat=19810821&id=o-QcAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Q44EAAAAIBAJ&pg=4300,2510391

[Shan-man]

River Country had to go in order to move ahead with the new Fort Wilderness DVC (http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=29602964&postcount=27) development.

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/SLSettles/Web%20Graphics/ShantaClausSm.png
whhhhhzzzzzzz plunk... that's the sound of my line being cast! LOL

[RocklandRVers]

What will they do if I kayak over to Discovery Island?

I have rented a pontoon boat during a couple of visits to the Fort and can tell you the CMs that run around in the Boston Whaler patrol boats keep a sharp eye on RC and DI. On one excursion I wanted to get close to RC and see it from Bay Lake. I stopped with my binoculars. In no time a nice Bay Watch babe type CM raced over to have a chat. She didn't chase me off but did ask if I was OK. She claimed she thought I had broken down or something. I said no that I was just catching some rays. She didn't leave until I put it in gear and left. Her motives could have been sincere but I got the unspoken message "STAY AWAY!". Another year I undertook a similar curiousity seeking trip to Discovery Island. I pulled up close to the dock on the east side and in a flash I saw that familiar Whaler kicking up a rooster tail headed my way. This time it was a guy who pointed out I had violated the off limits area.

Unless you swim across in the cover of darkness, like the guy whose site was posted in another thread, I don't see a way to get to DI. Plus its got to be a dangerous trip. Gators? Bacteria? SNAKES! Who knows what else might be there to injure or kill you.

By the way TCD is my hero. I like his style. I tend to push the rules too. Like taking my golf cart down the broken down nature trail and nearly getting stuck! I had a heck of a time backing all the way out! WHEW! I was lucky nobody caught us that day. But it was cool to have explored something very few have seen or even know about at the Fort.

[WorknFires]

Last month while staying at the Fort, we took the Segway tour and we were told that yes they are tearing down the old water park and they have plans to extend the campgrounds.

Since Disney sold the huge piece of property at the end of Bonnet Creek Pkwy, the campgrounds can't extend that direction so they have to extend towards Wilderness Lodge through the old water park.

Course, anything you "hear" is a rumor so take what you like of that.

Cheryl

[I'mDownWithDisney]

That is an interesting rumor, and it is not too hard to believe, either. Campsites along the lake would be cool.



I still like the conspiracy theory better, though. I think TCD is living up in RC like Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now.:lmao:

[liv luvs disney]

I have nothing interesting to say, and yet I post all the time. :confused3

But in all seriousness, I do think you are right. I hope he returns at some point, as I really enjoy his posts, photos and reports. But, and this is sometimes hard to remember, there IS more to life than the Fort and the DISboards, and I bet he's exploring other things and enjoying other campgrounds. I hope he is doing well and enjoying whatever is occupying his time these days, and I look forward to the eventual return of TCD.

There is?:confused3:rotfl:

[Born 2 Fish]

this is sometimes hard to remember, there IS more to life than the Fort and the DISboards, .

There is?:confused3:rotfl:

See Olivia,,now Dave is just talk'n plain silly.

[mamaloya]

Oh dear Lord!!! TCD's pictures had absolutely nothing to do with the demo going on at RC. There were other websites that had similar pictures long before the ones that TCD posted. As to where TCD is...he likes to keep a low profile and in all probability lurks now and again, but has nothing of interest to post.

My guess on the R.C. demo is this....

R.C. was slated for demo long before now, but 3 hurricanes in 2004 forced Disney to use the money slated for the R.C. demo to the clean-up and restoration of the Fort. (Disney is self-insured, so no insurance $$$). Then, the remodeling/upgrade project (that was scheduled well in advance of it actually occurring) was done. Now that everything else is out of the way, the R.C. demo is happening.

Actually, I hope they turn the area into a food court and make Trail's End a full service restaurant.

Now you are just making too much sense Debbie. :teacher: Go have a couple of Kungalooshes and come back when you aren't going to make any sense. LOL :rotfl:

I am wondering if maybe TCD has rejoined under another screen name so as not to be found out. Hmmmm, any thoughts on that on Miss gotta make sense of stuff? LOL :hippie:

[des1954]

Unless you swim across in the cover of darkness, like the guy whose site was posted in another thread, I don't see a way to get to DI. Plus its got to be a dangerous trip. Gators? Bacteria? SNAKES! Who knows what else might be there to injure or kill you.

OTTERS!! I'm tellin' ya...... ya gotta watch out for dem OTTERS!!!

[DaveInTN]

See Olivia,,now Dave is just talk'n plain silly.
Wow, clearly I had too much scotch with my dinner last night. Don't worry, I'm back to my senses.

[liv luvs disney]

See Olivia,,now Dave is just talk'n plain silly.

I know. He just told me on another thread that he wasn't left-because I told him he wasn't right.

Wow, clearly I had too much scotch with my dinner last night. Don't worry, I'm back to my senses.

Oh, okay so this explains it!

[DaveInTN]

I know. He just told me on another thread that he wasn't left-because I told him he wasn't right.
TO BE CLEAR, I was referring to political orientation! :thumbsup2

I am not left. :rotfl:

[liv luvs disney]

TO BE CLEAR, I was referring to political orientation! :thumbsup2

I am not left. :rotfl:

TO BE CLEAR, I knew that. My response to Frank was just a lame attempt on my part to be silly. You, me, and to my knowledge, most on this board are NOT left. We ain't "right" either, but I'm NOT talking about political orientation.:rotfl2:

[des1954]

No diskushin of polytiks is allowed on this bord.

[Born 2 Fish]

TO BE CLEAR, I was referring to political orientation! :thumbsup2

I am not left. :rotfl:

Ohhhh!! Political orientation!!! :rotfl2:Sure glad ya clear'd that up ! Notice I didnt say anything bout that,,kinda had my mind in the gutter for a second, wasnt sure.

[DaveInTN]

TO BE CLEAR, I knew that. My response to Frank was just a lame attempt on my part to be silly. You, me, and to my knowledge, most on this board are NOT left. We ain't "right" either, but I'm NOT talking about political orientation.:rotfl2:
:rotfl: No, we definitely ain't right.

[shoreline99]

No diskushin of polytiks is allowed on this bord.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-unpolitical-cat-is-on-a-fence.jpg

[BradyBz12]

By the way TCD is my hero. I like his style. I tend to push the rules too. Like taking my golf cart down the broken down nature trail and nearly getting stuck! I had a heck of a time backing all the way out! WHEW! I was lucky nobody caught us that day.

Along those lines, if you're out "deer hunting" with a golf cart and a spotlight behind the cabins off the main road near the hitch/unhitch area, be sure your friend takes the double stroller off the roof of the golf cart first. :rolleyes1

srsly... never laughed so damned hard in my entire life. :rotfl2:

Last month while staying at the Fort, we took the Segway tour and we were told that yes they are tearing down the old water park and they have plans to extend the campgrounds.

Bets on what those "Ultra Super Duper Premium" waterfront sites will cost during peak season? $200? $300? :eek:

[tderonne]

River Country had to go in order to move ahead with the new Fort Wilderness DVC (http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=29602964&postcount=27) development.

+1
And it will need it's own private themed pool. Not as big as River Country. River State? River City?

[MandMLUVMMandDVC]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shan-man
River Country had to go in order to move ahead with the new Fort Wilderness DVC development


I'd use my points for a stay!

[we3peas]

Does anybody remember this? I posted this back on Nov 1, 2009...the info was shot down at the time....maybe it's coming true after all. Lifeguards might know more than you think.:confused3


This weekend while sitting in the hot tub at FW. A woman said the lifeguard at the pool told her that Disney was looking into tearing down the old River Country area and making more premium sites along the lakefront. What do you think? This this will happen?

I hope not- I thought it was pretty crowded this weekend almost every site was full and they turned over very fast. One hour they were empty the next someone had moved in. I think they already have the right balance of cabins and campsites.

[daddyphat808]

If that is what they are up to I would have to try one of those sites if I could get in one. But then again maybe it will make it a little easier to get reservations?

Naaa it won't what am I thinking?

[shoreline99]

Does anybody remember this? I posted this back on Nov 1, 2009...the info was shot down at the time....maybe it's coming true after all. Lifeguards might know more than you think.:confused3

It would be nice if they were able to keep the other pool at RC though. The two pools at FW tend to get filled up quickly and it would be a great spot, being near the lake and all.

[BigDaddyRog]

lakeside campsites....sounds like a great idea.....but can you imagine what Disney would charge for those sites???? I wonder how they would catagorize them!!!!!

[Shan-man]

I'm tellin' ya, DVC...

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/SLSettles/Fort-Wilderness-DVC-redux.jpg

River Country had to go so that the new DVC loop could relate to the established Fort Wilderness amenities.
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[Disbuf]

I so wish you are right Shan! It is so difficult to get into the FW on DVC points. It would be great if there as a section for DVC members. I would definitely be adding on points to our DVC membership.

[BRDof3]

I would bet that the fee would be either your first born child, or an arm and a leg for those without children.

They might call them extra special premium sites? Or maybe they would call them super duper premium sites?

It's... Double Secret Probation Premuim Sites. Because fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go camping.

[Shan-man]

The unofficial official word is they will be called the Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Sites.

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/SLSettles/Web%20Graphics/ShantaClausSm.png

[tlenzendorf]

Hey Shan-Man! Do you read this thread?

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2314520

I keep wondering if they are talking about you when they talk about meeting Santa Claus.

[daddyphat808]

Just saw this on another board.

http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/downloads/20100083158.pdf?parent=DOC546S21112&id=DOC546S21112.A0

It is about taking out a River Country Nature Trail. they may be covering RC demo in it.

[Shan-man]

Hey Shan-Man! Do you read this thread?

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2314520

I keep wondering if they are talking about you when they talk about meeting Santa Claus.

No, I don't follow that thread, but I did go there and tried to search, but got no hits for "Santa" or "Claus". I don't have time to read 20 pages of posts right now. Can you tell me the gist of the encounter? I sure hope it wasn't me since the thread is about worst character encounters:scared1:
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/SLSettles/Web%20Graphics/ShantaClausSm.png

[TheGreatGonzo]

Just saw this on another board.

http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/downloads/20100083158.pdf?parent=DOC546S21112&id=DOC546S21112.A0

It is about taking out a River Country Nature Trail. they may be covering RC demo in it.
The commencement paperwork is current but if you look at the date on the drawing page it's from 1994. They probably just used the drawing to show the locations. All we can do is wait and see.

[kazlac4]

Are there any on-site "reporters" that can give us a updated Fort report regarding RC?

[WhereRv]

Just got back yesterday, saw some workers cutting down the post railings on the over the water walkway and gazebo near RC. I have a pic, but I'm trying to figure out how to post it! Also seemed to be a lot of new "mulch" in the flower beds and trees around MK, maybe grinding up the posts?

I was able to make my avatar pic the pic I wanted to put up here...best I could do for now!

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz339/buczek1/ResizeofDSCN1308.jpg

[BradyBz12]

Just got back yesterday, saw some workers cutting down the post railings on the over the water walkway and gazebo near RC.

:sad1:

[tlenzendorf]

No, I don't follow that thread, but I did go there and tried to search, but got no hits for "Santa" or "Claus". I don't have time to read 20 pages of posts right now. Can you tell me the gist of the encounter? I sure hope it wasn't me since the thread is about worst character encounters:scared1:
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/SLSettles/Web%20Graphics/ShantaClausSm.png

It was basically just about people meeting Santa at Epcot and being embarassed because their kids would stop and stare or run over to him. It was pretty funny. I immediately thought of you after I read your TR since you spent so much time at Epcot. They were just wondering who you are. Someone later mentioned that maybe it was somebody from the camping board who looks like Santa(I'd already thought that before then :))

[clkelley]

The commencement paperwork is current but if you look at the date on the drawing page it's from 1994. They probably just used the drawing to show the locations. All we can do is wait and see.

These notes were in Mouseplanet this week.

River Country – removal/demolition of the Nature Walk Boardwalk.
Fort Wilderness Resort Pioneer Hall – completion of the rehab.

I'm wondering if the demo up front is the 2nd item.

If you'll remember, when the massive rehab was announced in 08, they mentioned that "River Country" belonged to attractions and would not be part of the rehab.

I'm wondering if "attractions" released the buildings that were placed in front of the walls (the pavilion, the bath house, etc.,) that those building became part of the "Pioneer Hall"

[Tigger1966]

I allways loved the walkway and the gazebo as well as the view of RC from the launch to MK it was an icon and gave me a sence of Disney past. Like the old condemed building down the road even if you were never in the building your imagination still runs wild of all the things that may have went on there.
But in the end this is progress just think of all neat old things that had to go to make way for the ones we love and some day even thoes will wave to step aside for something new and better.
Some day your children will look up at that tall structure at DS and say that used to be the TOT bot they updated and converted it into (fill in the blank) years ago:sad1:

[DaveInTN]

Some day your children will look up at that tall structure at DS and say that used to be the TOT bot they updated and converted it into (fill in the blank) years ago:sad1:
That's like the conversation I had with my kids when we parked our stroller near Its a Small World, and I told them when I was a kid you could board a skyway here to Tomorrowland. They thought that sounded awesome! But, now all you can do is park your stroller there.

[3gr8kids]

watching and waiting to see what's happening..........

[ynottony99]

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[BradyBz12]

Thanks Tony! Really going to miss seeing that from the boat.....

[ynottony99]

Thanks Tony! Really going to miss seeing that from the boat.....

Me too. Even though it wasn't accessible, it was awesome to see it there.
I wish we had some photos of what's going on there right now.
I may get to sneak over in a week, and take a quick look around.

[ynottony99]

Been looking back through albums from trips over the years. Found this one from Feb. 2007. 2 landmarks gone.



http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m133/ynottony99/WDWFeb07575.jpg

[DisCamper]

Oh yes the OLD Shoe Tree. All the shoes went away during one of the Hurricanes. Keep that pic you can add it to the history of FW in 5 years.

[Born 2 Fish]

Been looking back through albums from trips over the years. Found this one from Feb. 2007. 2 landmarks gone.



http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m133/ynottony99/WDWFeb07575.jpg

Great pic Tony.
Okay, whats the story on the Shoe Tree ?? :confused3I've never heard about that??

[AuburnJen92]

The shoe tree was supposed to be for boat captains that retired. They would throw their shoes on the tree. Then, they took them all away....

[DisCamper]

The shoe tree was where shoes were thrown on college program kids' that worked the lake patrol or the launches last day there at Disney.

[des1954]

The shoe tree was supposed to be for boat captains that retired. They would throw their shoes on the tree. Then, they took them all away....

The shoe tree was where shoes were thrown on college program kids' that worked the lake patrol or the launches last day there at Disney.

So which is it?? :confused3:confused3

Actually Todd, the hurricanes had nothing to do with the "shoe tree" being stripped of their shoes. I'm assuming a Disney "suit" thought it was an "eye-sore" and ordered the tree cleaned out. The shoes were there until sometime in 2008.

[Tigger1966]

Here is something to reminisce about enjoy:cool1:
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz225/theoneandonlytigger/CIMG1005.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz225/theoneandonlytigger/CIMG1006.jpg
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http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz225/theoneandonlytigger/CIMG0995.jpg

[ynottony99]

:thumbsup2

[SandrA9810]

It's probably CPs or any one that's leaving water craft that tosses them there.

The Rivers of America are full of boots, a few tillers, a microwave, wheel barrel, a stroller, alligators here and there. Occasionally a shoe will float to the top and it's removed. But until they drain it, it's all sitting down there.

[Born 2 Fish]

Tigger1966 ,,great pics ! :thumbsup2
Now the important question,,did they catch any fish ?

[skyp4WDW]

Some of the people in the office at Ft Wilderness have confimed that River Country is being demolished as we speak to make way for more ($) sites. I don't think our new Resort General Manager has any emotional attachment to it like those of us who vacationed there with our families. I have always viewed River Country as the "Cinderella's Castle" of Ft Wilderness. Some places are just too special to be bulldozed; and River Country is one of them. How about a protest?

[clkelley]

Some of the people in the office at Ft Wilderness have confimed that River Country is being demolished as we speak to make way for more ($) sites. I don't think our new Resort General Manager has any emotional attachment to it like those of us who vacationed there with our families. I have always viewed River Country as the "Cinderella's Castle" of Ft Wilderness. Some places are just too special to be bulldozed; and River Country is one of them. How about a protest?

Quite honestly, I'd much rather it be bulldozed than left the way it was. No way they're going to refurbish it, so might as well do something useful with the area.

[Goofyseven]

I agree, although RC has many fond memories its best if the area is put to good use. If there are more sites, it may be easier to get reservations in the future.

[auntie]

Last weeks' episodes really left me very LOST!!!

Maybe that's what the Disney Imagineers are up to.....creating "Lost Land" outta the old RC?? That's the place you can take family members that are irritating you...send them in....and a character representing "Ben" will banish them to "the island".....never to be seen or heard from again! I would sell a kidney and a lung for that attraction! :lmao:



ooooh... What a devious idea. I like it..I really like it. :scratchin I've got a couple of family members I'd like to put at the front of the line for that attraction. ::yes::



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[ynottony99]

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[Tigger1966]

We have been too long without updates:confused3
There has to be somebody down there that can show us what's going onpopcorn::

[ynottony99]

I have plans to go over on Tuesday. I am going to start with a TE breakfast and try to get some info. from Josephine, Ken, or some of the old timers. Then I plan to walk back and see how far I can get into RC. I am no TCD, but I will do my best. In fact, who knows, maybe TCD or someone will get us some photos before I make it?????

[kazlac4]

I have plans to go over on Tuesday. I am going to start with a TE breakfast and try to get some info. from Josephine, Ken, or some of the old timers. Then I plan to walk back and see how far I can get into RC. I am no TCD, but I will do my best. In fact, who knows, maybe TCD or someone will get us some photos before I make it?????

Thanks so much. We will be anxiously awaiting any news! popcorn::

[Born 2 Fish]

I have plans to go over on Tuesday. I am going to start with a TE breakfast and try to get some info. from Josephine, Ken, or some of the old timers. Then I plan to walk back and see how far I can get into RC. I am no TCD, but I will do my best. In fact, who knows, maybe TCD or someone will get us some photos before I make it?????

popcorn::

[pooh4me]

I don't know if it was posted on here but Mouse Planet posted in thier permits applied for that WDW applied to remove the water side board walk at River Country. Sorry I just got back from the Fort and hadn't read the whole thread yet,now I see that CLKelly already posted this.