Big Community Board Vent Here!

[6_Time_Momma]

So, if you don't want to hear me ****** hit that "back" button now!!!!






I just have to say, I have gotten to the point where I just don't even want to open certain types of posts anymore because I just know that someone is going to post a certain type of post on that thread, even though the thread is not about said subject@!!!!

Ignore doesn't help becuase I still see the name and I just KNOW what that poster has said!!! It drives me crazy and really PO's me because it is a totally selfish, uncompassionate, arogant, and obnoxious post every time!!!



Thank you for allowing me to get this off my chest!! I feel just bit better now.

[A kid at heart]

Huh?

[DixieDreamer]

Yup. Hard to resist responding back - when a sharp stick is constantly being poked in your eye.

[6_Time_Momma]

LOL, AKAH!!! I was trying to be vague so as not to be seen "attacking" anyone, so you'll just have to bear with me and trust me that it is really annoying!!! :)

[Mamu]

<center>:(

This is very sad. I do know what you mean "community" caring about others and their feelings.

[browneyes]

:(

[A kid at heart]

Ok, I was a little confused.....:confused:

[EROS]

LUV YA , 6_TIME_MOMMA:) :p ;) :) :p ;). I KNEW that we had a lot in common:) . There's one poster on the CB who drives me crazy with his RIGHTEOUSNESS:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: .........

[A kid at heart]

I see said the blind man! I quite agree 100%!

[helenabear]

I think Dixie Dreamer said it quite nicely. Kristy, I do know how you feel and it is hard sometimes and I avoid threads for the exact same reason.

[C.Ann]

hmmmmmmmm....

[NHAnn]

what helenabear said :)

My DH says "don't get in a pissing contest with a skunk". DH's advice is usually good. But DARN I wish those skunks would stay out of my yard. I know they usually don't bother you if you don't bother them, but then there they are, right in front of the garage, or someone has plattered one right in the middle of the street ...ya know?

[ripleysmom]

I have that same problem Kristy....of course all of my gripes are on the DB. Too bad some people can't take the heat over there. ;)

[CamColt]

Why is it when these threads come up, I never have a clue? I must be pretty oblivious to something around here. :confused: :rolleyes:

[Deb in IA]

Ah, yes.

That DARN freedom of speech thing. Gets terribly annoying, doesn't it?

[6_Time_Momma]

Gee, a little sarcasm there, Deb?

I don't think I said this person couldn't post, just that I didn't care for the posts and they PO'd me. Or am I not allowed to say that?

[MaryAnnDVC]

Originally posted by NHAnn
what helenabear said :)

My DH says "don't get in a pissing contest with a skunk". DH's advice is usually good. But DARN I wish those skunks would stay out of my yard. I know they usually don't bother you if you don't bother them, but then there they are, right in front of the garage, or someone has plattered one right in the middle of the street ...ya know? LOL Every so often, there's one post that makes me really want to meet a person and shake their hand, and this is one of them! :teeth:

The nice thing about the skunk in the middle of the street, tho, is that eventually the stench goes away and that's the end of THAT one. ;)

(That DARN having an opinion that you don't like something you see or hear...and using one's darn freedom of speech to express that fact. ;) :teeth: )

[crazyme5kids]

I know what you are referring to. Try not to let it bother you. Perhaps it was a very bad day for that person, maybe received bad news.

[Deb in IA]

It was a bit sarcastic. Sorry, Kristy.

You know, some folks just like to say provocative things to get a reaction from people. Now, if you remember, when these types of comments were first posted, many, many LOOOOOOONG discussions ensued. It doesn't happen as much anymore (thank goodness!).

Just realize that these comments will in all probability continue, and don't let it bother you, because I believe that's what the poster want you to do. Get upset, that is.

[Goofyposter]

Just realize that these comments will in all probability continue, and don't let it bother you, because I believe that's what the poster want you to do. Get upset, that is.

Now THAT is a sad commentary on the state of mind of "that" 'person' to whom none of us are mentioning by name isn't!.....yer have ter wonder what's wrong with the head of that poster...

Yup...it's a real accomplishment ter get good folks 'upset' ain't it.

[mom2boys]

:confused: :confused: Guess I'm out of the loop. Oh well, it's the story of my life.

[JohnTBap]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid21/pe20c46374d00bee367afcc6262590530/fdb07c13.jpg

Y'all are welcome to use this. I'm finished with it.

:D

[EROS]

http://images.allposters.com/images/SLV/NR0338.jpg
Freedom of Speech
Norman Rockwell

[Ricola]

"Freedom of choice is what you've got.
Freedom from choice is what you want."

-Devo

[luv2nascar]

Yes there are some that bother me too
I think it is the self rightousness of the posters
Their beliefs and views are always right
& they feel the need to tell everyone else
they are wrong all the time

I try not to read the posts anymore
cause I have come to the conclussion
that you can't win because they know they
are right
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Putting the mad faces made me feel better
They know they are doing it & will be so brazen
as to post to this thread also
Go figure
must make them feel good to anger people &
hurt their feelings
:confused: :confused: :confused:

[allicat]

You know, I was honestly just thinking about this very thing!
The issue is why must someone post their beliefs over and over in an insensitive and insulting fashion.
Sometimes I am reading a post that is very sad and then I see this particular posters response and its like a slap in the face. Dont put others beliefs down to showcase your thoughts.
Its done to the point where its just crass and rude. Its thoughtless.:mad:
We can agree to disagree but please have some tact. Posting your beliefs about what you feel to be "true" on a thread about a childs death or some other sad topic is just downright thoughtless.
Ive tried not to get too specific but I fear I might have been.

[Judy from Boise]

Yes, we have a right to freedom of speech
but, we have the priveledge of being kind.

[Planogirl]

I THINK that I know what you're talking about and if I'm right it puzzles me too sometimes. Why make the same point over and over again? It's like "OK, I know how you feel now give it a rest PLEASE!" However I suspect that it won't stop any time soon and that's really the way it should be as far as freedom to post goes.

Maybe the ignore feature would help at least for a while?

[epcotfan]

I am utterly confused :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Lucky4me]

I am clueless as usual too. I'm sorry you're upset Kristy!

[EROS]

The pope dies and goes to heaven. At the pearly gates, St. Peter welcomes him and asks if he's ready to enter heaven for all eternity. The pope replies, "Yes, but before I go in, I would really like to see what hell is like."

St. Peter thinks a moment and then responds, "I suppose it would be okay if you went down there for a half hour or so."

With that, the pope finds himself in hell, where, to his amazement, the inhabitants are having a huge party. They have the best of the best spread out: French champagne, Italian food, and music of all sorts, from Lawrence Welk to Jimi Hendrix. As the pope watches everyone eating, drinking and being merry, he starts to become very hungry and cannot wait to go back to heaven.

When the pope returns, St. Peter asks him, "How was hell?"

The pope replies, "Well, they were having such a big feast, I became famished watching them."

St. Peter then asks if the pope is ready to enter heaven, to which the pope replies, "Oh yes, I'm very excited. If the people in hell are having such a good time, I cannot imagine how great heaven will be!"

With that, St. Peter leads the pope into a small white room with a small white table and white chairs, and instructs the pope to have a seat. The pope looks a little puzzled but abides his host.

After a few minutes, Jesus enters the room carrying a peanut butter sandwich and a glass of milk, and takes a seat.

A moment later, St. Peter enters bearing two peanut butter sandwiches and glasses of milk. He hands a peanut butter sandwich and glass of milk to the pope, and sits down and starts to eat.

As they silently sit eating, the pope becomes more and more agitated, until St. Peter finally asks him why he is not eating.

"Well," the pope responds, "down in hell they are having a big bash, with all the finest food, drink, music and dancing. I imagined heaven would top even that!"

"Why," St. Peter queries, raising his eyebrows, "you don't expect us to do all that for just the three of us, do you?"

[Leota]

It's beyond me as well - it really seems to be some sort of sad, sick obsession with getting a rise out of people, almost in a control freak kind of way - the term sociopath comes to mind....
I try to ignore the rude comments & callousness - actually most of the time, I just cruise right over those posts - I'm not gonna bother reading them, because they are the same thing, over and over and over and over ad naseum........

[Goofyposter]

MaryAnnDVC:
The nice thing about the skunk in the middle of the street, tho, is that eventually the stench goes away and that's the end of THAT one.

LOL!!!
That's an 'unusal' expression of 'faith',
but I agree! :)

'course...the longer the stench sticks around...the more 'numb' yer become ter it...and it loses it's effectiveness.

[DVCajun]

I'm not even a regular on the CB, though I like to visit you guys occasionally. But even *I* get the drift of this thread. I agree too. It has inspired me to use my "ignore" feature! I hear it works quite well.

There's no accounting for a lack of class.

[The Mystery Machine]

:confused:

Another clueless poster here. Sorry you feel :( .

[snoopy]

There was a time when I let certain posters annoy me and rile me up. I finally let go of those emotions though, thankfully. I just figured life was way too short to allow someone's opinion bother me. After all, its only an opinion. I really started to examine why I was allowing it to anger me, and after alot of consideration, I finally let it go.

As a result, DISing has become fun again for me. I couldn't have said that a year ago. I urge all of you who have a problem with any one particular poster to try to let it go as well, I think your time spent on the boards will be a more rewarding one. :)

[glo]

standing up and giving Snoopy a standing ovation!!!

I guess we have to be reminded that this is an internet board and that no matter how much we love this placeis an internet board. Free for everyone to use, and post on. We can't all have the same views and ideas, what fun would that be. Think of how great it is that ALL of us have the right to post our opinions here. There are many places where differing opinions would not be tolerated. We do not have to agree with eachother all the time, we can choose not to read or post... I happen to think that is a pretty cool thing.


Snoopy, is right..... nothing here should interfere with life...this is supposed to be fun!! :) :)

[Kitty 34]

Kristy, I have to agree with Snoopy. Don't let this poster bother you. It's not worth it. There's too many good things about the CB to let someone like that get you down.:D

[EROS]

I LOVE threads like this one!!!!!!!!!:p :p :p .....

LIKE "THE SMELL OF NAPALM IN THE MORNING", THEY'RE SO FULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL OF

RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION;););)

[Poohbear123]

:confused: I have NO IDEA WHO you are all talking about, BUT, I don't have any problems with ANYONE here on the Boards, so I will go back to reading now................................:o

[JoeThaNo1Stunna]

Huhhhhhhh, what is everyone talking about???

[EROS]

Every good thread on the DIS deserves a THEME SONG;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) .............



Onward, Christian soldiers,
Marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus
Going on before.
Christ, the royal Master,
Leads against the foe;
Forward into battle,
See His banners go.

Onward, Christian soldiers,
Marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus
Going on before.

At the sign of triumph
Satan's host doth flee;
On then, Christian soldiers,
On to victory!
Hell's foundations quiver
At the shout of praise;
Brothers, lift your voices,
Loud your anthems raise!

[Blondie]

Why is it when these threads come up, I never have a clue? I must be pretty oblivious to something around here

I'm either oblivious, or just too involved with other things in RL to take notice.

Sorry you are upset Kristy.:(

[WDWHound]

You have to understand, some people see freedom of speech as freedom to be insensitive and rude in the name of making their point. I have no problem with people who disagree with me, but I have a big problem with people taking advantage of a sad and tragic situation just to try and make a point they have made a 1000 times before.

Its sad that some people feel its necessary to take advantage of other's sorrow to push their own personal agenda. A thread offering comfort for those who are grieving is not considered a forum for debate by most people. Its funny how many people demand respect for their points of view, but then behave disrespectfully towards others if they sense it will promote their cause.

One has to wonder the value of an opinion if the only way to promote it is to use such insensitive tactics. :rolleyes:

[TigrLvsPooh]

This board kinda reminds me of Thanksgiving dinner. The WHOLE family is thrown together, grandma and grandpa, aunts and uncles, cousins, brother and sisters, etc. They drive in from all over the country to spend the holiday together, and each person arrives with a big smile and a hug for everyone. ;)

Some family members you can't stand, maybe it's your bible beating first cousin who's trying to save your soul, or your gay brother who brought is "life partner", or your close minded grandpa who hates your nose ring, or your Dad walking in with another new girlfriend, but you put up with ALL of them every year so the family can be together for the holiday. Other family members you really can relate to and feel connected with. ;) As the day continues you know there's bound to be some fighting, it wouldn't be Thanksgiving without it, but at the end of the meal everyone is laughing. :D

That's how I see this board. Sometimes people really pi$$ me off, but then I get over it. This is probably the only board on the internet with this much diversity. Old/young, men/women, rich/poor, educated/ignorant, it's really amazing we all have things in common. :D

The questionable posts don't bother me. I actually enjoy reading all the opinions on this board. I think some people just tend to be overly sensitive, and they take everything as a personal attack. Other people probably spend way too much time here and need to get a life. LOL ;)

[bumcat]

Great post, tigrlvspooh. Here's what I don't understand. There will be a thread started about the death yet of another child. A certain person will post that God or/and the angels must have been on vacation, etc, etc. So many hate his response but continue to read everything he posts. Why if it keeps upsetting you do you continue to read everything this person post? Have any of you ever questioned the death of someone and wondered where was God? I know I have. Have any of you ever wondered why some children are killed so horribly but others escape? Is it not ok to express those opinions? I know I know he does it over and over and over and it's usually in bold letters. If this person believed in God and questioned such I sense that that would be ok for him to post and everyone would be telling him it's ok to doubt God but I strongly believe that he is disliked by so many because he is an atheist first. If he was a christian and spoke his doubts a million times on here I bet that would be ok, too.

[newmousecateer]

Just know that I will not post a thread that could be offending to people. I love it here on the DIS and do not want anyone not have me here. :(

I am a very compasionate person, but I guess my views on certain issues might not seem compasionate to others.

:( :(

If I feel strongly about a certain issue I will just discuss it with DH so the rest of you wonderful people don't have to get "caught up" in any controversy I might originate.

Love "freedom of speach", but not at the expense of others.

Love you guys here on the DIS :bounce: :bounce:

[Disney Doll]

The secret to the "Ignore" feature, Momma, is to actually get to the point where you can truly ignore the people you have put on Ignore.

When I first put people on Ignore, I still tended to look at their posts, and,like you, would still get aggravated. Then one day I came to the conclusion that it was silly to let people I don't even know on an internet discussion board upset me, as they are probably not people whose lives would ever in any way ever affect mine. With Freedom of Speech comes Freedom of Choice, and that is the freedom I choose to exercise.

The DIS has become far more enjoyable for me since I adopted my new attitude.If some folks choose to be nasty,negative, and miserable all the time, they now have my sympathy, and prayers, rather than my anger. Thye anger is counterproductive, the symapathy and prayers may someday help them;) . But I still choose not to read their posts.

[Saffron]

Very well said WDWHound. :D

[Kama89]

There was a time when I let certain posters annoy me and rile me up. I finally let go of those emotions though, thankfully. I just figured life was way too short to allow someone's opinion bother me. After all, its only an opinion. I really started to examine why I was allowing it to anger me, and after alot of consideration, I finally let it go.
Three cheers for Snoopy! :D


I've adopted this philosophy here as well. I decided a long time ago not to expend my emotional energy on the people that upset me. Life is too short and too precious. :D

[Leota]

Wow! This ignore thing is great! Why didn't I try it sooner? Totally changes the whole thread.....

[bfeller]

Been around the boards long enough to know that once a thread is started that the replies can go in any direction. I also was once offended by the direction that a thread was taken by a DIS member and PM'd that member about their post. The member responded and then I let it go. Of course for a while that member was on my Ignore list, but then I found that the majority of the time that poster challenged me and my beliefs and often enlightened me about other issues. And at times(not many) I found that that the member and I agreed on some issues. I eventually took that person off my Ignore list and now read any replies from that person with a grain of salt and say to myself, "Isn't that just like ???"

So the lesson that I have learned is this:

Do not respond to the post. I believe that some of the posts are done to get a response from me(us) I will not play the game. And if I choose to play(respond to controversal post) then I know that things can get a little uncomfortable but only if I allow myself to be uncomfortable.

It is my choice to respond and keep the difference of opinions going.

[Dan Murphy]

Originally posted by NHAnn
My DH says "don't get in a pissing contest with a skunk". DH's advice is usually good. But DARN I wish those skunks would stay out of my yard. I know they usually don't bother you if you don't bother them, but then there they are, right in front of the garage, or someone has splattered one right in the middle of the street ...ya know?
Originally posted by MaryAnnDVC
....The nice thing about the skunk in the middle of the street, tho, is that eventually the stench goes away and that's the end of THAT one. ;)....
Originally posted by Goofyposter


Now THAT is a sad commentary on the state of mind of "that" 'person' to whom none of us are mentioning by name isn't!.....yer have ter wonder what's wrong with the head of that poster...

Yup...it's a real accomplishment ter get good folks 'upset' ain't it.
Originally posted by Judy from Boise
Yes, we have a right to freedom of speech
but, we have the priveledge of being kind.
Originally posted by Planogirl
I THINK that I know what you're talking about and if I'm right it puzzles me too sometimes. Why make the same point over and over again? It's like "OK, I know how you feel now give it a rest PLEASE!" However I suspect that it won't stop any time soon and that's really the way it should be as far as freedom to post goes.

Maybe the ignore feature would help at least for a while?
Originally posted by Leota
It's beyond me as well - it really seems to be some sort of sad, sick obsession with getting a rise out of people, almost in a control freak kind of way - the term sociopath comes to mind....
I try to ignore the rude comments & callousness - actually most of the time, I just cruise right over those posts - I'm not gonna bother reading them, because they are the same thing, over and over and over and over ad naseum........
Originally posted by DVCajun
I'm not even a regular on the CB, though I like to visit you guys occasionally. But even *I* get the drift of this thread. I agree too. It has inspired me to use my "ignore" feature! I hear it works quite well.

There's no accounting for a lack of class.
Originally posted by WDWHound
You have to understand, some people see freedom of speech as freedom to be insensitive and rude in the name of making their point. I have no problem with people who disagree with me, but I have a big problem with people taking advantage of a sad and tragic situation just to try and make a point they have made a 1000 times before.

Its sad that some people feel its necessary to take advantage of other's sorrow to push their own personal agenda. A thread offering comfort for those who are grieving is not considered a forum for debate by most people. Its funny how many people demand respect for their points of view, but then behave disrespectfully towards others if they sense it will promote their cause.

One has to wonder the value of an opinion if the only way to promote it is to use such insensitive tactics. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Leota
Wow! This ignore thing is great! Why didn't I try it sooner? Totally changes the whole thread.....

As it is fairly easy for me to get my post whacked on a thread like this, I thought it best to just quote others who express my thoughts quite well.

Additionally, (hope this is okay to say) as I have said several times in the past, as a moderator, I did not use the ignore feature, (rather counter productive to one of the the 'duties' of a moderator). However, several days after no longer a moderator, I started to use the ignore feature, and I must say, it works well. Certainly not a total solution, because the callousness still remains when the hurtful or demeaning drivel of some is quoted and displayed. Likewise, it is limited when whole threads are brought down, destroyed and sometimes closed or deleted by the moderators, (who only are trying to do their job of keeping a modicum of decorum on the board), after threads have been turned into an agenda promulgating personal stage for some.

But, as Leota said, Wow! This ignore thing is great! Why didn't I try it sooner? Totally changes the whole thread.....

It does help, some. For the many folks who have expessed here on this thread, as well as many times in the past on similar threads, the displeasure of the hurtful, hateful nature of some, I would simply suggest trying the ignore feature. And as Disney Doll said, The secret to the "Ignore" feature, Momma, is to actually get to the point where you can truly ignore the people you have put on Ignore.


Good luck, Momma, and {{hugs}}. :sunny:

[JohnTBap]

Originally posted by TigrLvsPooh
This board kinda reminds me of Thanksgiving dinner. The WHOLE family is thrown together, grandma and grandpa, aunts and uncles, cousins, brother and sisters, etc. They drive in from all over the country to spend the holiday together, and each person arrives with a big smile and a hug for everyone. ;)

Some family members you can't stand, maybe it's your bible beating first cousin who's trying to save your soul, or your gay brother who brought is "life partner", or your close minded grandpa who hates your nose ring, or your Dad walking in with another new girlfriend, but you put up with ALL of them every year so the family can be together for the holiday. Other family members you really can relate to and feel connected with. ;) As the day continues you know there's bound to be some fighting, it wouldn't be Thanksgiving without it, but at the end of the meal everyone is laughing. :D




EXCELLENT ANALOGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



:) :) :) :) :)

I myself am partial to that cousin no one ever mentions by name but everyone poorly alludes to.....

[Planogirl]

I myself am partial to that cousin no one ever mentions by name but everyone poorly alludes to.....

I actually like that cousin myself ;) but I had to let a few things go at first too because I wanted to have fun here and not worry too much about what others thought. Once I relaxed I found that I could appreciate everyone else's viewpoint even if the cousin was a bit annoying at times. I still don't see the point but I guess that I don't have to.

I still think that the ignore feature is a good one to use if it really gets to you.

[minniepumpernickel]

I have no idea who we are talking about, because I have detatched myself from the personal dramas that seem to erupt on occasion. I think that it's good to use the internet as an informative tool, and for entertaining, and debating but when it comes to 'true' communication nothing beats real life. JMHO.

That being said, perhaps you are dealing with a child, or a child like mind? From what people are saying, it almost sounds like when a little kid always says "me", "me", "me". An immature psyche only sees the world as how it affects "him" as opposed to how others see it. Who knows, life is too short to try to psychoanalyze people on the net.... :D

(The post is not meant to offend!!):D

[Lucky4me]

Great analogy tigrlvspooh! Now if we only had an ignore feature we could use at Thanksgiving dinner. lol

It truly amazes me that threads like these will get 2000 views in a day. I'm not passing judgement because well, I've been here twice already today, lol. It's just amazing how we humans tick.

Look at the poor vacation threads on this board. There are 1675 less views on those than this one, when those are really what this site is supposed to be all about. Just one of things that makes me go hmmmm.

[TigrLvsPooh]

JTB liked my post???? :eek: :eek: ;) ;) I must be dreaming!!



Now see, if 2 people fighting over the same man can see eye to eye then shouldn't we all just get along??? :D ;) :cool:

[Disneymomma]

just scroll down and ignore them. That's what I do. Lifes too short to spend time getting upset. Sometimes it is good to hear an opposite belief. (Not to the point where it is inflicting pain upon another however.) Lately, that is what I have done-just cut out the parts (Or people in my life.) that cause problems/inflict pain. Sorry you are aggravated. :(

[6_Time_Momma]

As I said, I do use the Ignore feature. However, it has gotten to the point where all I have to do is see the individual's name and I know what it says.

As stated earlier, freedom of speech is one thing, but it should not be at the expense of the feelings of others, which it unfortunatley is in these cases.

So, I guess I will just have to skip over many of the threads that i want to read in order to save myself the aggravation.

[Buckalew]

LOL, Kristy. If you can't ignore one of the posts, turn it into a game and TRY to GUESS what the poster will say. Then click on ignore and WOW! You'll win EVERY time! :)

[Goofball]

I've found that my feelings are spared and often helped by saying a little prayer for certain someones anytime I see their names, whether I read the post or not. I hope that doesn't pi$$ anyone off!! :D

[Robinrs]

I've had this conversation with SOOOOO many DISers who had thse same reaction about this situation...

I'm sorry, I find that I pity this person way more than I have disdain for him. His life is a quest, as mine was. He is asking the questions, hopefully, like I did, he will get his answers one day.

I understand his anger and his attitude, I WAS him once.

Have patience. There is hope...

[robinb]

I, for one, am totally appalled at this thread.

All of you who have been attacking this particular poster like this should be ashamed of yourselves. I guess it must be alright with all of you as long as you don't mention this person's name. As you know, personal attacks are strictly forbidden on the DIS. You have managed to by-pass the rule by alluding to this person but you all know who are you talking about. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink!

Well ... let's put a name to the person. Eros. You are all talking about Eros. He knows it, so by naming him I am not hurting him any more than the lot of you already have.

Community Board. {{shaking my head}} Yeah, right.

[Disney845]

ummm.... hmmmm....well....

I saw this the other day and did not really want to get involved. I still don't but I have to agree somewhat with Robin. People are allowed to have personal opinions, that is part of life. I myself have had "post confrontations" about certain subjects. When people do not agree it isn't the end of the world, and just because someone says something that you view as callus and unfeeling, or possibly overstated, does not negate the right for that person to freely express his/her opinion. This is a discussion forum for Disney fans. That is the common theme we all have. It does not however ensure that we are all going to be white middle class families with 2.3 children and a minivan, or asian bisexuals who have multiple body piercings, or irish conjoined twins. We are all different. We live all over the world, have varying incomes, lifestyles and personalities. If a discussion forum topic or reply or poster is going to ruin your day, or scar you in such a way as to dissuade you from enjoying the experience of being here than I think you are the one with the biggest problem. I understand how some things can be "taken out of context," "misunderstood," or "taken to heart" when no malice was meant on a posters part. I also know that some posters on this board have a "grumpy" (to use a light term) nature. These people need to be treated in much the same way anyone else who has opinions different from you are treated. Exchange views, understand you can change no one but yourself, and (to use a phrase that has gotten me in trouble before ;) ) GET OVER IT.

[Goofyposter]

robinb .....yer may be right...if sew....it's ah never ending cirle ah friends isn't fer that poster???? perhaps thar's a reason ger that?!!!


Dan...as usually....."bingo"

In MHO...this place is not designed ter be a bedlam of hatred..and wonton 'free spreech' run awry.....sum sorry beautock folk may think it is....but...thar's 10 gazillion web sites ter do that...if that what they need ter feel thar a 'real human-being'

[EROS]

ROBINB, are you SURE that they're talking about me??:confused: :confused: :p :p :p :p .

THANKS for all of your touching comments:) . Of course, many ARE personal attacks, but unlike the moderators/Webmasters, I feel that you are entitled to express them.

When I question whether GOD was present when a child DIES, I'm NOT personally attacking ANYONE. I'm simply expressing MY view, for better or worse. You certainly can say that my viewpoint is callous, insensitive, narcissistic, or rude........, but MY opinion about the absence of GOD is just as valid as YOUR perception that he's always there.

ATHEISTS are universally HATED because they bring the:

BAD NEWS .....

BELIEVERS wish to hear the:

GOOD NEWS!!!!


Sooooooooooooooo, when a thread decries sadness for the loss of an innocent life, I AM going to question the construct that GOD exists. I think about LIFE and DEATH much more than most of you, because my work involves people who are forever on that edge. You may HATE my opinions, you may DESPISE me, but your perceptions of life are no more "correct" than mine.


PEACE TO YOU ALL,

JohnTBAP, you're straying away from your fine moral compass, but you're a compassionate woman:) :) .....

[WDWHound]

Robin,
We are a community, and as such, we sometimes need to identify when we find someone who is not respecting the beleifs of others in the community. Eros (there, I used his name) has in the pass openly attacked Christian and other beleifs and he has done so on threads meant for offering support in tragic situation, sympathy or conndolances to grieving parents. Other threads, which were meant as a simple opportunity to share reflections on our faith were also repeatedly interupted by Ero's pointed and deliberately insluting comments. There comes a time when a community needs to point out the disrespectful behavior of one of its members, and this thread become a forum for expressing just that opinoin.

All anyone here has ever asked is he use some discernment in where he posts his opinion. I can stand the blatant insults he dishes out regularly (which I note you don't seem to have any objection to), as long we can sometimes be allowed to discuss our beleifs here with constant interuptions in Bold Type screaming an opinoin we have already heard thousands of times.

So I hereby make a request. Eros, if you want to disagree with a beleif in God, fine. Thats your right. You have the right to post said opinions anywhere you want, but I am requesting that you please have enough respect for others viewpoints not to do it on threads in which people are trying to take comfort in their faith. If you want to insult me openly by callijng me a fool, ignorant, or a member of the hang em high crowd (all of these are quotes from past threads), please don't interupt a thread discussing religious beleifs to do so. Just because these threads have no meaning to you, they do have meaning to others. Please respect that and allow our conversations to continue in peace. If you feel the need to express your opinoin, then please spare us the barbs and insults. I do not mean this as an attack, but as a request of fellow member of this community to treat us with the respect we deserve. Of course, I am not a moderator, so this request only reflects my views (though I think many others would agree).

[newmousecateer]

Ok. It appears I am the one who started a thread that started all of this controversy.

Once again, I apologize. I never wanted to start a thread that would put people at odds with each other. I gave a knee jerk reaction to a situation that upset me terribly. If I offended anyone by what I said, I am truly sorry. I have apologized in previous threads, and I am truly sorry if some cannot forgive me. (to err is human, to forgive is devine), yes?

We all have our opinions. If EROS or anyone else has a problem with a thread I start, please feel free to PM me and we can take it "offiline"

Believe it or not, I am a very compasionate, caring person. I keep popsicles in the freezer for the neighborhood kids, I feed the birds and rabbits (they better keep out of my gardens LOL), I make food for sick neighbors. (Dont get me wrong, I am definately not patting myself on the back, just trying to explain that I am an OK person)

Lets all get back to caring about each other, spreading PD when needed, and having a good time here (and I have to finish doing my nails LOL).

PD to everyone who comes here on the DIS. (and to you new members, we truly are a very special group of people, just like to vent now and then)

[Goofyposter]

http://www.boomspeed.com/bicepguy/CushingVanHelsing.jpg


sum posters...have concocked a means by witch ter corrupt otherwise decent folks...inter...folks that think....speak'in out in ah way ter be harmful ter others...is "OK" and in fact a 'responsiblity' of democtarciy....butt..they're as wrong as wrong kan be...they only dew it ter reward thar patectically low self esteem...fer thar own sense of misguided....self worth...they've gotter prove ter themselves in thar own minds...that they have a reason ter live....

[DocRafiki]

Go Robinb!
It's your birthday!



Sorry... just having flashbacks to jr high with all this clique bully behavior :rolleyes:

[Deb in IA]

Wow, I am gone for a day, and it's amazing all the stuff I miss . . .

Look, EROS and I disagree on a host of things, but for the most part, I find his posts and responses humorous and thought-provoking. He is ABSOLUTELY entitled to his opinions, and, as far as I recall, he has never personally attacked or belittled anyone's beliefs. Questioned them, maybe, but never ridiculed or mocked them, as some here have been accusing him of.

Anyone who has been here for any length of time will soon pick up on the fact that if someone posts a thread about some horrific human tragedy, especially if it involves the death of children, EROS is gonna ask, "Where was God?" It's a question, folks, not an attack. And it's a legitimate question, one that I daresay many of us have grappled with at one time, and one which may not have an answer.

The other issue here is what is considered offensive. When speaking to a large forum such as the DIS, it is truly difficult to make sure no one will be offended. What YOU find to be offensive may be perfectly OK with me. And some here certainly seem to be more sensitive than others.

I think EROS' viewpoints on many issues differ from the mainstream, but he has the courage to voice those opinions. Difference and diversity is OK. As I've said before, this would be a terribly boring place if we all agreed on everything. You know, there are all kinds of people in this world. I run across this in real life, as well as in cyberspace. If you let everyone who disagrees with you upset you, you'd be pretty miserable. So, when I see EROS' comments about God's little vactions and siestas, I just smile, maybe even roll my eyes:rolleyes: , and go on. And I still enjoy his other posts as well.

OK, now to go back to folding laundry . . .

[Goofyposter]

Groosch Doc...we must have had a very different junior high expenice....I recall when one person waz a real jerk tew the majority.....the 'majority' "corrected" the misguided direction of the wayward waunder....back then...it waz called..."grow'in up"

[Disney Doll]

Actually, robinb, there is more than one person who posts on the CB that I find annoying, so to say that anyone is singling EROS out is probably incorrect, as I am sure that there are many other folks besides EROS that other posters find annoying...who knows how many "Ignore" lists I am on?

I think my recently newly adopted tactic of saying a prayer for all those folks I find annoying works wonders! I do it in real life too!!!;)

[ripleysmom]

robin....how would you like to Eros to jump on every thread you post with something negative to say even when it is something as innocuous as posting proudly about one of tyour son's accomplishments.

Nope....can't have that, it might hurt the feelings of someone whose child can't do that.

Can't express the fact that I think that people that abuse or kill children should die terrible and painful deaths. I am a bloodthirsty creature.

Can't express grief for a child who was hurt or grief over the holocaust. There must not be a God to allow this to happen.

Can't express a belief in God. There is no God doncha know....

As for you Eros, I used to like your posts but somewhere along the line your posts have become obnoxious. The really sad part of that is that, while your points are very valid, beating people over the head with them has apparently taken it's toll on the message.

[Goofyposter]

The really sad part of that is that, while your points are very valid, beating people over the head with them has apparently taken it's toll on the message.

"Amen" ter that!!!

[DocRafiki]

Originally posted by Goofyposter
Groosch Doc...we must have had a very different junior high expenice....I recall when one person waz a real jerk tew the majority.....the 'majority' "corrected" the misguided direction of the wayward waunder....back then...it waz called..."grow'in up"

PLEASE!

Your "real jerk" = someone with a differing opinion, someone who didn't brown-nose.

Your "majority corrected" = bullying. You call that growing up? Yes, growing from childhood to adolescence... not exactly a step in the right direction. I call it clique behavior. Those "real jerks" found people who were similar to them, left your clique, and made their own.

But thanks for another example of what Eros might refer to as "sanctimonious." Being a part of the majority does NOT mean, by any stretch of the imagination, that you are IN THE RIGHT.

[Saffron]

In my opinion, calling someone names such as "sancitmonious", "self righteous", "arrogant", "blood thristy" and all of the other names that I've heard CBers called because they disagree with certain points of view, is insulting. Members of a community usually don't go around insulting people, and then expect to be treated with respect.

The road goes both ways. If certain posters want respect or expect to be treated with respect, then they should treat others with respect.

I don't always agree with everyone on the CB, but I never feel the need to disrespect their opinion or call them names because I disagree with them.

[disfanatiks]

I have been trying to think of the correct reply to all of these posts. I truly have feelings on both sides. I am a Christian and I have seen God work in my own life in so many ways.

I have seen EROS' posts and at times have cringed and wished that he had not posted in way that he has. But I believe that he does have the right to post just as the rest of us do. I tend to be in agreement with robinrs when she states that she believes that he is searching. Eros even told in a post over the weekend why he feels as he does. That it was in the death of a child 20 years ago. I sometimes think of him and I have prayed for him to find God again.

But I must say that all that are condemning him should be embracing him instead. Isn't that what being a Christian is all about? We should all be praying for him. We should be praying for all those which we are appalled by, offended by, etc. Isn't that our duty?

I must also say that I have seen compassion from Eros. He always thinks to post flowers for a congrats...or send a PM for something that you have posted. I have experienced this a couple times from him, so I know that he has a good heart.

Eros is a part of our community here and we as Christians should be praying for our togetherness and resolution. I pray that Eros will not be quite so condemning. But it is my prayer as well that we as a community will come together and accept each other faults, obnoxiousness and all.

[epcotfan]

I say if a post bothers someone so much, use the ignore feature (I think it was put in place for that purpose) and move on. This is, after all a message forum. Same with TV. Don't like what you see. Switch the channel. Simple as that. Not worth stressing over it and getting your shorts in a knot. :rolleyes:

[WDWHound]

It all boils down to respect. Its not the content of the message, but the way the message is delivered.

Perhaps we should be more patient, but we should also be open when someone offends us. If we don't say anything, who can we resolve the problem?

[Sharon A.]

Kristy, you know I really like you but I'm not sure I understand how you think it should work.

There are many people here who aren't Christians and even a few (gasp!) atheists like myself. Every time someone says something like, "God guided me today" or "I had a guardian angel with me today," I bite my tongue. And then when something terrible happens, I have to bite my tongue again to keep from asking where God was then because this is the kind of response we get if we do express our views.

What it boils down to is that people here are allowed to make all the references you want to God and prayers they want and if we make reference to the fact that we don't believe, it's hurtful to the community or to you personally. When are we allowed to throw our questions out there? You know if I started a thread saying "why I don't believe" it'd be mostly responses from religious people either telling me how wrong I was or how sorry they felt for me. I avoid the threads that explicitly reference religion in the title, but many times a post about something in the news turns into a prayerfest. Is that any different than Eros turning a news post into a disbelieverfest?

[Bob O]

I havent had the time to read the whole thread but whenever somebody posts against the majority opinion they can expext to be belittled which IMHO happens to EROS but he is willing to take the arrows. I disagree with eros about his religious views and the death penalty but that doesnt bother me,its just points of disagreement. I think people get upset because he isnt afraid to express himself no matter if it goes against the majority viewpoint.
Once a thread is started anyone should be able to respond in any manner they feel fit to do and if the post starter doesnt like it too bad. Of course some will try to delete a thread if it doesnt go in the direction they want too.

[WDWHound]

Actually Sharon, someone did start a "why I don't beleive thread', and it did get a bunch of Christians posting on it. You know what? that was wrong too. Christians should have stayed off the thread, but at least none of them yelled or insulted.

I have no problem with you or anyone else stating you don't beleive in God. Just please don't yell or use words like "arrogant", "blood thristy" or "ignorant" when you do it. Those words are not conductive to an intelligent exchange of views.

Ps. I know you have never used those words, but they have been used in past Eros posts.

[WebmasterAlex]

I have a confession to make.. I have been watching this all nite while getting PM's from the mods saying "what should we do?" I am finding it very interesting.
Sharon makes a good point. If someone started a thread entititled "I am sure glad I am an atheist" people would be having a stroke and bible thumping away....
On the other hand if someone is talking about their sick spouse or is hurting over the death of a child is that the time to push your view? Of course not...
So why does it happen? 2 reasons...respect and the fact the internet is anonymous. People say stuff ALL the time that they would not EVER think of saying to someone in real life....or if they did they would say it in a quite different way....
It's all respect.. and you know what? If someone doesn't show you respect in real life how do you handle it? It isn't all that different

[DocRafiki]

I know what you mean (I think), Shannon. I rarely reply to prayer/PD threads. What am I going to say? "Well, I don't pray, but..." Or... "sending PD..." sorry, don't believe any amount of prayer, PD or thoughts will change anything... so that would just be dishonest. If you don't send a prayer/PD, you're uncaring. If you try to explain why you don't send a prayer/PD, you're starting an argument. I just hold my tongue for the most part.

[Goofyposter]

If you don't send a prayer/PD, you're uncaring.

Groosch I disagree Doc...with all due respects......I dernt think that NOT sending that is disrepectful at all...it all boils down to what we're individually comfortable in dew'in....I DO think it's WRONG to post on those types of threads....statements that are hurtfull...mean...or jurst intented to promote ah personally held value...or disbelief in other's values...JMHO. :)

[pollyanna]

So WHY,if the majority dislikes how you post SOOOOO MUCH...why do you continue to do it,EROS?

Why do you continue to bring such anguish and turmoil here.....WHY????

*


*


;)

[DocRafiki]

Oops, I meant Sharon, not Shannon.

Well that's good to know, Goofy. Nobody has ever said anything like that too me, it's just the way I feel sometimes when people talk about how wonderful and caring people are for sending PnPD.

BTW, I'm NOT saying to stop calling people wonderful for sending PnPD! Please don't think it's an attack! (I'm not THAT sensitive. ;) )

[Serena]

Six pages of this?

[luv2nascar]

You know I don't really know if I should post
almost feel like it should be left alone
But I get offended by certain religious groups coming to my front door (and I'm a Christian) so why wouldn't I get offended by someone throwing the there is no God or where was your God when this happened in my face.

You are entitled to your opinion and my purpose on these boards is not to convert all to Christianity so don't try to convert me.

It goes back to human decency - obviously he knew the post was about him because he kept replying to it - so obviously he knows he is not being kind to people & hurting people by calling names.
Not everyone can just let it roll off their back. Some cry, other scream, some get even - We are now on the playground kids.
Lets choose sides & whip there butts at kickball.

[WebmasterAlex]

That's an interesting question Pollyanna...
For those that have been around a while for all of his secrecy...he has really given us a lot of clues about himself..
I wonder how many people have ever said to themselves "Gosh I wonder what he has been through to make him feel this way?"
For all the angry upset people... how many have tried to even understand?
How many have ever read a post and felt sympathy instead of anger......

[ripleysmom]

"For all the angry upset people... how many have tried to even understand?
How many have ever read a post and felt sympathy instead of anger......"

Pretty much any ambivalent feelings I had went out the door when Eros took Kristy to task for starting a thread about her son's accomplishments.

To me that is the kind of thread where you post and say something nice or just stay the heck out of it. Instead we were treated to Eros' opinion of why someone shouldn't post things like that.

[Goofyposter]

How many have ever read a post and felt sympathy instead of anger......

Speaking only fer myself Alex....I know I have....and those 'kinder' feelings kould certainly continue...were it nert fer the 'anti-everyone but myself' sentitments that seem to always re-appear....perhaps that's a shortcoming of mine...I'd like ter think I'm patient and kould give anyone a 'break'...but...after a point...once a sick dog bites enough people...it needs ter be 'put down' or locked up....or otherwize modified in it's behavior...fer the common good.

[WebmasterAlex]

so there's a limit to sympathy.. an end to understanding...
I have gotten PM's from people that use the word "HATE"... that's an awfully strong word..to hate someone for their posts...

[WillyJ]

I'm still not sure who this thread is about. . .

[browneyes]

Originally posted by WillyJ
I'm still not sure who this thread is about. . .
As someone that has a tendency to hijack threads-albeit not meaning to offend anyone when I accidentally do, I was afraid it was me at first.:o

[Goofyposter]

ROTFLOL!!! Browneyes!!!! :)

[vickyBaby]

You're silly Shannon :p

[JohnTBap]

I am shocked and appalled at this. I just cannot believe that people who call themselves CHRISTIANS would act this way.

I used to be a card-carrying member of the ANTI-EROS MAFIA, but I refuse to participate in this any longer. (My card is being returned – watch your mailbox.)

HOW DARE I – A SINNER, as we ALL are – admonish one of God’s children???
I hereby now PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE to EROS and ASK FORGIVENESS for my past transgressions.



For the religiously inclined:


If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love. I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. My command is this

Love each other as I have loved you.
--John 15:10-12


For those who are not:
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.


As for myself, I pray this pertains:
Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven - for she loved much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little.
--Luke 7:47

[vickyBaby]

Amen JTB.

[Planogirl]

LOL Shannon! :D

All of this is the primary reason why I wondered about Eros mentioning the same things over and over again. It keeps angering people and I personally doubt that is his intent. Maybe he really is searching and maybe he's doing it here with people that he thought might understand?

I don't know but I won't rail against him or ignore him because I do laugh at many of his posts and I do enjoy his commentary MOST of the time. Most of all I support his right to his viewpoint and also his right to post even if his timing is a little questionable at times.

It must be strange to be discussed like this. I won't do it any more after this post except to ask Eros to please post again. NO ONE deserves this! JMHO.

[Beauty]

I had only looked at this thread once back on the first page and I decided to open it tonight. I am very impressed by what JTB just said. Every single statement she made in that post is 100 percent true.

Judge not one another! That isn't our job. As Christians we are to "Love one another as ourself" Eros cracks me up and I believe that not many of us can say that we are half as honest as he is. I personally know I hide my feelings, if I disagree with something said on the board or someone I don't post just to not start controversy. Eros is honest....something I think everyone could learn from. Honest...just tell it like it is. Even though I may not agree with him (which I DO NOT where God is concerned) it is also not my place to judge him. I will continue to read his posts, I will continue to laugh at him when he posts something funny and I will continue to disagree with him where God is concerned.

[JohnTBap]

Originally posted by Planogirl


It must be strange to be discussed like this. I won't do it any more after this post except to ask Eros to please post again. NO ONE deserves this! JMHO.


I agree with you. Further, I think that we can all agree that almost anyone else would run to a Mod/WM crying for help. Does EROS??? NO WAY. WHY??? Because he respects and encourages ALL opinions. All he asks is that you return the favor. Perhaps if you are offended by some of the things he says it is because he holds a mirror in which you see yourself and YOU DON'T LIKE THE REFLECTION.

Not quite the Bible, but something to consider:



One day you're going to have to face
A deep dark truthful mirror
And it's going to tell you things that I still love
you too much to say

Deep Dark Truthful Mirror

Elvis Costello

[WillyJ]

Just curious. . . if all opinions are respected and encouraged, then what's the problem with anything posted in this thread?

[Disney845]

[QUOTE]So WHY,if the majority dislikes how you post SOOOOO MUCH...why do you continue to do it,EROS? [/QUOTE

I really hope this was meant tongue in cheek as the winky smilies might indicate. If not........I do not know what you are doing living in America. I am a steadfast Republican and I disagree with almost (stress almost) everything Democrats stand for, but if the democrats were to give up merely because republicans were in the majority.....I am so flustered by this response I can not even think of what to say.

As for this whole christian vs. athiest thing. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! is no where near a strong enough comment. No where did it say you have to be a card carrying member of an acceptable christian church (and not one of the new age christian churches, the real, god fearing christian churches) to be able to post on certain threads. I do not want this to escalate into a further discussion on the existence of a god, but come on folks. Use your heads here. I am reading a LOT of hypocrisy here tonight. I was under the impression that people who profess to be christians would view this kind of witch hunt as being anti-christian. I thought christians were all about caring and knowing that they themselves are not perfect. A very christian phrase comes to mind. He who has not sinned...throw the first stone. So am I to understand that non of the christians posting to this thread have ever sinned before in their lives? Wow this should throw that Bell Curve way off.

Eros is a member of this community. If you don't like him tough. I am not his personal cheerleader by any means. I have really disagreed with him on topics, and have felt the sharp bite of some of his replies. I do not personally like his attitude sometimes, but I would say it is rating up there with some of the attitudes of the "christian majority" on this thread.

While you might feel put off by his response to your PD request or your bragging about your child's acomplishments just try and imagine how you would feel if 20-30 people on this board got together to bash you. I would feel so unwelcome and probably never come back to this board. How would you feel if people hated your every post and wished you were not around. You are condemning him for not being more thoughtful to other's feelings in his responses, but so many of you have gathered together to do nothing but publicly declare your dislike and hatred toward a fellow DISboarder. DIS as in DISNEY. The comments many of you have made toward or about Eros would probably bring yourself to tears if someone were to go up to you and say these things.

I can not express how disappointed I am with some of you.

DocRaffiki, I agree this board is turning into something of a clique.

By the way...one of those things that I don't necessarily agree with reublicans about is religion!

[DocRafiki]

oooooooooh, I like that Elvis quote, JTB!

[DocRafiki]

DocRaffiki, I agree this board is turning into something of a clique.

starting? :jester: Ah, you weren't around for the anti-DocR travesty of 2 summers ago. Do I dare mention a little group called the "Danettes"? {DUCK!} :p

Hey Eros, I think you might be getting more attention than I did! I had better go start some trouble. ;)

[JohnTBap]

Originally posted by WillyJ
Just curious. . . if all opinions are respected and encouraged, then what's the problem with anything posted in this thread?

You've got a good point.

Here's MHO.

One of the main tenets of Christianity is to love your neighbor as you love yourself. I'm not feeling the love, WillyJ, and so am calling the Christians on the carpet. If you're going to talk the talk, you need to walk the walk.

I myself have repented. ;)

[Emperor Zurg]

I think it's great everyone is so passionate on this board. It shows that they really care about it.

But maybe it is time to take a Deeeeeeep breath and calm down a little? Maybe listen to some music? Always works here on planet Z!

[Rafiki Rafiki Rafiki]

Hasn't old Wild Bill been kicked off here once before?!

The Wizard of Oz looked awfully big and bad until they revealed the little weasel behind...

Look, Bill. Is that really your name, Bill? We don't have to know your name to see inside your soul. Most of us don't like what we see. And we know you have a right to be here, but that shouldn't make you feel welcomed by most of us.

Most of us share our real lives and real experiences with people here. Perhaps you don't have those people around you that really care about you. It's not our fault. Don't take it out on us.

Sure, you have some thought provoking things to say. Share those with us, and keep the mean-spirited stuff to yourself.

[JohnTBap]

We ARE listening to music! We have a theme song for this thread - see????



Originally posted by EROS
Every good thread on the DIS deserves a THEME SONG;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) .............



Onward, Christian soldiers,
Marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus
Going on before.
Christ, the royal Master,
Leads against the foe;
Forward into battle,
See His banners go.

Onward, Christian soldiers,
Marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus
Going on before.

At the sign of triumph
Satan's host doth flee;
On then, Christian soldiers,
On to victory!
Hell's foundations quiver
At the shout of praise;
Brothers, lift your voices,
Loud your anthems raise!

[Disney845]

nope, Doc can't say that I was. I am sorry to hear about whatever it was though. Just as I am sorry for Eros. I have never ignored anyone on this board. I don't mind reading what other say. My biggest grip is not understanding what people have posted- no proof reading (I have been guilty of this as well), being very vague when asking questions or stating opinions because they are trying to not give away too much info (why the heck are you posting then????), public threads that have in-jokes on them that others don't get (what are PMs for?).

The only poster's posts that I sometimes skip over are Goofyposter's. Not because I don't like you Goofy, or have anything against what you have to say.....I just don't like trying to decipher the "goofy language" when I am in a rush to read posts. Please Goofy do not take that the wrong way. I think you have very good ideas sometimes, I was just using you as an example.


Again in BIG CAPS I DO NOT DISLIKE GOOFYPOSTER!!!!!!!!!! ;)




Just previewing my reply and a big WHAT goes out to Rafiki Rafiki Rafiki??????? No idea what you are talking about their in the beginning. As to the you can be here but we don't have to like you comment. .......I wasn't aware that Eros had ever asked anyone to like him? Nor has anyone else insinuated that you must like everyone on these boards. I can think of a few people on this post who are moving up on my list, but I don't hate them, would never start threads to just outright bash them, and have no misconceptions of what others might think of me based on my posts.


Listening to music here too. "Let's hear it for the boy....let's give the boy a hand....maybe he's no Romeo......"

[WillyJ]

LOL JTB!!! :)

Well, I'm not discounting your opinion or missing your point, and I even agree with it to some extent. . .

But, my perspective is that this sort of thread is exactly the kind of thing we try to prevent here on the CB. . . and the main critic of that policy is Eros himself. . .

So, I have to admit that while I don't like seeing this sort of thread for any reason, I personally am having a hard time working up a lot of outrage or sympathy here. . .

Having said that, I do remember the incident Jen is refering to, and more then a few others just like it- how ever "right" or justified people feel, I've never seen it do anything but cause hard feelings among people who are not even directly involved in the situation, and nothing is ever solved. . .

I'm have no interest in deleting anything here or closing the thread, or even stating my opinion. . . but it does seem to me that every point of view possible has been expressed at least once, and I would hope everyone will consider what continuing the discussion could possibly accomplish before doing so. . .

:D

[DocRafiki]

Most of us don't like what we see. And we know you have a right to be here, but that shouldn't make you feel welcomed by most of us.

TSK, TSK, TSK! Just when I thought this was all starting to come together to some sort of understanding... :( this is one of the most blatant attacks I've seen on here yet.

[DocRafiki]

Oh, but Uncle Willy, I need SOMETHING interesting to read all night! There's nothing but infomercials on TV!!! :smooth:

I betcha Eros is getting a big kick out of all this.

[WillyJ]

You mean you don't have HBO??? :o I'm sorry Jen, I had no idea!!!

Okay everyone, back to the fighting!!

;)

:teeth:

[JohnTBap]

But WillyJ................I've got a WHOLE CLIPBOARD full of quotes from Elvis Costello and the Bible ready to use at a moment's notice!!!!!!!!!!

[WillyJ]

Well heck, it does seem a shame to let all that go to waste. .

Tell you what, save them, and I'll see if I can't start some brawls tomorrow. . . ;)

:teeth:

[JohnTBap]

My pistol is holstered, sir. :)

[Serena]

Doc, I'm sure he's laughing his behind off.

Is anyone else as confused by this thread as I am?

Is this the jist of it or am I wrong?

Some people are expressing their thoughts and opinions about how someone else shouldn't express his thoughts and opinions.

[Ricola]

I think some people just like to get other people's
http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~jhballar/pictures/Alpine.gif

[Serena]

Yep Ricola, and there are a few people that have gotten quite good at it. But some of the responses in this thread seem too mean spirited to me.

[RNMOM]

Rafiki,Rafiki, Rafiki

I take objection to your assumption that "we know you have the right to be here but that shouldn't make you feel welcomed by most of us..." comment.

I am not sure that would be accurate. I too have enjoyed Eros' posts and don't find his views any more objectionable as a lot of others. Some folks like a challenge.

I like most all of you most all the time. I would not be here if I didn't. I am not at all interested in your religion and would appreciate if you were not interested in my lack of one. I have asked for support and occassionally offer it but I too feel it can go overboard at times. I just skip those posts.

Eros, I enjoy your art and your mind. Stick around buddy, Okay?

P.S. Goofyposter, I really enjoy you too but I also need a translator...or is it just that reading posts at 3:30 am is the problem? Night all.

[epcotfan]

Originally posted by RNMOM
Rafiki,Rafiki, Rafiki

I take objection to your assumption that "we know you have the right to be here but that shouldn't make you feel welcomed by most of us..." comment.

I am not sure that would be accurate. I too have enjoyed Eros' posts and don't find his views any more objectionable as a lot of others. Some folks like a challenge.

I like most all of you most all the time. I would not be here if I didn't. I am not at all interested in your religion and would appreciate if you were not interested in my lack of one. I have asked for support and occassionally offer it but I too feel it can go overboard at times. I just skip those posts.

Eros, I enjoy your art and your mind. Stick around buddy, Okay?

P.S. Goofyposter, I really enjoy you too but I also need a translator...or is it just that reading posts at 3:30 am is the problem? Night all.

Beautifully said RNMom! You summed up my feelings nicely :)

[jipsy]

Eros is a part of our community here and we as Christians should be praying for our togetherness and resolution.

Since when is being a Christian a prerequisite for being part of the "community"? :rolleyes: Statements like this are most likely part of the reason Eros makes the posts he makes.

Threads like this one are the reason I went from averaging 20+ posts a day to 2 posts a day.

All of you who call yourself Christians - go back and re-read this thread and ask yourself that famous phrase so many of you like to wear on shirts:

WWJD?

JohnTBap you're the only "Christian" who has impressed me today.

EROS while I don't necessarily agree with you alot, and I was disappointed when you hijacked Kristy's thread awhile back about her child, I still like you. Sorry that you are the "pig on the spit" today. Looks like they like you well done. ;)

[6_Time_Momma]

Some people are expressing their thoughts and opinions about how someone else shouldn't express his thoughts and opinions.

Not at all. They are expressing their opinions that someone should feel free to express their opinions, but with some respect for others in how they post them.

[DVCajun]

I think that a lot of people are missing the point. This isn't about an opposing "opinion." It's about mockery and disrespect.

I have opinions and beliefs that certainly differ from the majority on these boards. My life experiences have caused me to come to a conclusion that can best be summed up as this: "Why do we give God the credit if we don't give Him the blame?" I won't elaborate, but I've given lots of thought to that and I have many practical, well-thought-out reasons for that conclusion.

However, I believe it would be WRONG to push my beliefs in others' faces. I personally get very offended if a Christian takes me to task on my beliefs-- I consider it presumtious, thoughtless and arrogant of someone else to tell me that I don't have good reasons for my beliefs. I turn that attitude around when it comes to others and give them the same courtesy I demand myself-- i.e. I don't push my beliefs in their face when they make a statement about theirs. I've been there. In fact, I've been in just about every spiritual camp there is. I'm a very spiritual person. At no time in my spiritual journey have I felt comfortable with someone bashing or mocking my beliefs.

I know personally that no one is born with bitter feelings. I got a fortune cookie once that said, "The more you know the less you believe." I, for one, would trade all of my knowledge for the faith of my childhood.

[bfeller]

I am more conerned that this thread was started as a vent and now turned into a "lets talk about a DIS member and even use their name" It seems to me that this thread was started with malice and not just a vent. It resembles a whining tantrum that a child has. The 'I started a thread and now everyone will not write what I like to hear or agree with. And of of course, He is picking on me!' We have already been there done that. We are beating a dead horse with a stick. Let's just accept that as long as we are on the board that a thread can go into any direction. This fact is out of our hands and we cannot control it, only the mods can do that. We can only control how we react to it. Afterall, this one has turned into a Salem Witch Trial/Hunt.

As my mother has told me several times. "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." or better yet, "Do Unto Others as you would have Others Do Unto You."

I am now stepping down off the soap box. Begin your flames and quoting of what was written for all your nasty little comments. Now isn't that a sad commentary of the boards?:(

[6_Time_Momma]

It seems to me that this thread was started with malice and not just a vent. It resembles a whining tantrum that a child has. The 'I started a thread and now everyone will not write what I like to hear or agree with. And of of course, He is picking on me!' We have already been there done that.


BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!! Wrong!! Guess again!

[bfeller]

I rest my case.:(

[6_Time_Momma]

I'm lost. Usually, when someone say "I rest my case", they indicate that they have proven their point? I must have missed that.

You made a nasty comment regarding my intentions on this post and that is apparently okay?

[disfanatiks]

Since when is being a Christian a prerequisite for being part of the "community"? Statements like this are most likely part of the reason Eros makes the posts he makes.

Sorry, if I offended anyone by this remark. First of all, I never said that being a Christian was a prerequisite. If I truly felt that way, then my support certainly would not have been for Eros, but against him. My only point was that those of us who are Christians should be praying for resolution. Possibly I should have stated that phrase a little clearer.

I am a Christian and I am also open minded to all religions, faiths and beliefs.

Sorry if I offended you, Jipsy.

[bfeller]

Read again Kristy. The beginning of the quote you used said "It seems to me......" I didn't say that is what you, personally, had in mind. Aren't I entitled to write what or how something appears to me? You did when you started the thread.

As for saying the comment was nasty, that was not my intent. But this thread has really taken a nasty turn. So may I ask what your intent was for starting this thread since my observation was so far off base.

As for not getting the point. The point was that someone would start to flame my thoughts/observation or to start quoting(which you did)

[6_Time_Momma]

Yes, you said "It seems to me" I merely indicated you were wrong in your impression. Granted, I concede I was a bit sarcastic (i apologise) however, it upset me that someone thinks I started this out of malice.

[JasonLyons]

I am so glad I didnt post on this thread :confused:

[Leota]

For the record - I could give a hoot about Eros's questioning/lack of belief in Christianity - I'm not Christian & I sometimes wonder & think the same things that Eros says - Just because I don't believe in the Christian theology/ideaology, doesn't mean I need to be "prayed for" that I find God - I have my OWN belief system which works great for me - I suspect Eros has the same..
My only beef is all the threads of grieving/sorrow that get hijacked into death penalty issues ending with name-calling (bloodthirsty, hang em high etc....) I really get sick of being called names & made fun of because of my beliefs, over & over & over, esp. in situations where I am feeling grief, sorrow, empathy etc... for some horrendous loss, crime....It is disrespectful to my beliefs & I feel to those who suffered the crime, to turn it into a name-calling debate.
As I've said before, we can debate death penalty - yea or nay - on it's own thread - but please leave the other ones alone....
The sad thing is, because of those attacks etc, I often don't read the other posts, which I had enjoyed on occasion before...

[MeanLaureen]

I'm only a casual CB poster so take my opinion as you want.

I find it totally ironic that some of the people posting to this thread - and I said SOME, not all - are guilty of doing the same thing they are accusing EROS of doing.

I have seen plenty of threads taken over by certain people who's opinions differed completely from the original poster and they didn't waste any time letting them know, and usually not in the kindest ways. Sometimes it seems like certain posters were actually picked on this way.

So maybe these threads weren't about religion. Is that where the difference is? Does that make it okay?

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

JMHO

[WDWHound]

Ok, its morning. 8 hours of sleep does wonders for perspective.

I think it all sums up to what Alex said, try to be respectful when posting your opinions here. Would Eros say the sort of things he says here to someones face? I doubt it, at least not with the same type of words. More importantly (since this is the part I can control) Would I respond the way I did here to someones face? Certainly not.

While I still feel that my request for repect is valid, the way I delivered it is way out of line, and so I offer an appology. After each I get drawn into something like this, I swear it will be the last time. You'd think I would learn.

To Eros and everyone else here, I appologize for losing my temper. I was wrong in reacting the way I did.

[ripleysmom]

"Does EROS??? NO WAY. WHY??? Because he respects and encourages ALL opinions."

JTB...that's not correct. See what happens the next time that you post in support of the death penalty. I do not call telling someone they are bloodthirsty encouraging, do you?


"I think that a lot of people are missing the point. This isn't about an opposing "opinion." It's about mockery and disrespect."

Golf Claps for DVCajun!!


"For the record - I could give a hoot about Eros's questioning/lack of belief in Christianity - I'm not Christian & I sometimes wonder & think the same things that Eros says - Just because I don't believe in the Christian theology/ideaology, doesn't mean I need to be "prayed for" that I find God - I have my OWN belief system which works great for me - I suspect Eros has the same..
My only beef is all the threads of grieving/sorrow that get hijacked into death penalty issues ending with name-calling (bloodthirsty, hang em high etc....) I really get sick of being called names & made fun of because of my beliefs, over & over & over, esp. in situations where I am feeling grief, sorrow, empathy etc... for some horrendous loss, crime....It is disrespectful to my beliefs & I feel to those who suffered the crime, to turn it into a name-calling debate."

Golf Claps for Leota!!

[ripleysmom]

BTW this thread highlights why I really tend to stay away from the CB. Kristy posted to vent about her feelings and now it has turned into a "Why are you picking on poor Eros?" thread.

When others post that someone on the DIS hurt them or frustrates them or whatever, they get hugs and sympathy. It doesn't get turned around into a thread trashing the original poster.

I guess it's good to see everyone rallying around Eros, however, I think it does speak to the issue of a clique that the original poster is now in the wrong.

[Spinning]

Wasn't sure I was going to jump in it took me a long time to figure out why or what happened...

This is my view point and only mine.
I actually like Eros post granted I roll my eyes many times or just pass over it but every time I read one of his "how could God..." post I sit back and think about it and it actually reconfirms my beliefs.(not what Eros was hoping) God didn't let this happen but he is now helping to comfort does that make sense?
It is very hard for me understand someone who doesn't believe but that is because I am a believer. So I say a prayer for the person in the thread and then one for Eros that he finds what he is searching for. Because to me anyone who ask ??? is searching. I am not saying he or any atheis is looking to convert to Christianity but the understanding end of it. Just if I spoke to someone who didn't believe in GOD I would have ?? because it seems so odd for me and doesn't make sense.
To me he must have his reasons why but even if he typed them out in outline form I still wouldn't understand.
Granted I do feel it would be better if he started his own thread or just stayed off but that isn't going to happen.

[danacara]

Originally posted by Rafiki Rafiki Rafiki
Hasn't old Wild Bill been kicked off here once before?!

The Wizard of Oz looked awfully big and bad until they revealed the little weasel behind...

Look, Bill. Is that really your name, Bill? We don't have to know your name to see inside your soul. Most of us don't like what we see. And we know you have a right to be here, but that shouldn't make you feel welcomed by most of us.

Most of us share our real lives and real experiences with people here. Perhaps you don't have those people around you that really care about you. It's not our fault. Don't take it out on us.

Sure, you have some thought provoking things to say. Share those with us, and keep the mean-spirited stuff to yourself.

I am incredulous at how far out of guidelines this is, and how it has been allowed to stand as a post. "Most of us don't like what we see?" Speak for yourself.

[danacara]

Originally posted by bfeller
I am more conerned that this thread was started as a vent and now turned into a "lets talk about a DIS member and even use their name" It seems to me that this thread was started with malice and not just a vent. It resembles a whining tantrum that a child has. The 'I started a thread and now everyone will not write what I like to hear or agree with. And of of course, He is picking on me!' We have already been there done that. We are beating a dead horse with a stick. ...

As my mother has told me several times. "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." or better yet, "Do Unto Others as you would have Others Do Unto You."...

Bfeller - couldn't have said it better myself.

[antnee]

can't we all just get along :D

[TeresaNJ]

My thoughts exactly, antnee.:D

[goofygirl]

6 time Momma,

Is it really you or just the pregnancy hormones talking? you sound like your going ballistic!


My advice is if you feel someone is an idiot, just dont pay attention to them, thats all!

[CathyCanada]

I think enough is enough here. I am working off a dialup and don't have time to go back and read more of this.

If you have nothing nice to say about someone, then say nothing at all please.
Cathy