The Fishy Bagel Debate

[*NikkiBell*]

Last night in chat was quite strange; well, stranger than usual. Kevin started talking about eating fishy bagels and it got me thinking. How many of you eat lox on your bagel? I don't know anyone here in NJ who does so. I even asked at work today and couldn't find one person.

To be fishy or not to be fishy. That is the question. ;)

[elemusing]

ugh, Nikki, I tried Lox ONCE. That's all it took. yuckers!!!!!

[sshaw10060]

I don't know how you missed lox and bagels living in Jersey. Heck I even ate them in TX. Yummmmm

[PryncessChrysty]

I'm really more of a fishstick eater - and less of a fish connoisseur, so salmon is the last fish I want near me......or my bagel.

[*NikkiBell*]

I swear I can't find anyone in Jerzy eating it! lol

[georgemoe]

Love fish but cook it please.

Cream cheese is the bees knees. :cool1:

[kimisabella]

They eat it on LI, and lots of it. I like it, but, I could see how it would have to be an acquired taste.

[SusanWasHere]

I work in a predominantly Jewish area and it is very popular to eat bagels and lox. My sister-in-law is also Jewish and when she would have family over for breakfast or lunch she would have it. I've never tried. I'm a cream cheese girl :)

[dgthree]

How many of you eat lox on your bagel? I don't know anyone here in NJ who does so. I even asked at work today and couldn't find one person.

To be fishy or not to be fishy. That is the question. ;)

Um.. sometimes. But I don't want it put on at the bagel store, I like being able to control the lox/cream cheese ratio. Then again, I usually want to scrape off half the cream cheese they put on, anyhow. =)

When my dad's last wife was still alive, she would always host her family's Yom Kippur break fast meal, and the lox and cream cheese were stacked high on the bagels. Maybe it's a northern NJ thing?

[kaligal]

I think it is mostly a Jewish thing. I've never tried it.

[DisneyKevin]

There seems to be some confusion on Miss Nikki's part.

The conversation started when Nikki announced that "she had never heard of putting fish on bagels" and that "no one in NJ eats bagels and lox".

So in order for the poll to be an accurate representation of the conversation held in Chat....the poll should read HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF BAGELS AND LOX.

I know many, many people that dont care for it and that is certainly understandable.

You could wrap grapfruit in chocolate and $20 bills and I'm still not eating it.

But...please first let Nikki know whether you have ever HEARD of bagels and lox and then let her know if you actually like it.

[kaligal]

Yes, I've heard of it. :rotfl:

[*NikkiBell*]

Lmao Aww, that's cute. Kevin is trying to hack my poll with his nonsense. Why would I go into a chatroom and start talking about fishy bagels? Puhlease... I believe you were the one who began this.

In any event...

I plead the fifth, fishy bagel eater. :P

[mainegal]

I did not eat bagels with lox and cream cheese until I met and later married into a Jewish family. No longer married to him, I still enjoy lox.

I like both hot and cold smoked salmon.


My Dutch heritage has me eating pickled herring, either in sour cream or a vinegared wine sauce. Yum!

[dmatullo]

Hi everyone, my first post on the podcast boards! :yay: I normally lurk around. You guys all seem so nice here :)

Anyways, I love bagels and lox and so do both of my kids and we're born and raised here in NJ. My husband on the other hand thinks lox is revolting.

I was just looking at the Delish menus and pictures and can't wait to get some bagels on our next trip down in April. We have awful bagels down here in Southern NJ.

Debbie

[DisneyKevin]

Lmao Aww, that's cute. Kevin is trying to hack my poll with his nonsense. Why would I go into a chatroom and start talking about fishy bagels? Puhlease... I believe you were the one who began this.

In any event...

I plead the fifth, fishy bagel eater. :P

You need to take Remedial Reading for Comprehension.

I didnt say you started the conversation.

I was asked what I was having for snack. I replied "bagels and lox".

You suggested you had "Never heard of bagels and lox and that no one in NJ eats bagels and lox".

And I'm not trying to hack your poll.

I'm making you more worldly.:thumbsup2

[adsrtw]

Yes, I have heard of bagels and lox. I love it, but nobody around here sells lox. :sad1:

[ms*mountaineer]

I love bagels and lox! I'm not from the NY or NJ area so it's not something I grew up on. But I love lox (and cream cheese) on a bagel.

[BriarRosie]

I'm a bit of an anomaly. I love having lox with bagels, but I don't like the standard cream cheese schmear with it.

Then again, I'd be a detriment to my Jewish heritage if I didn't eat lox. Right? :rotfl2:

The only way I like cream cheese is when it's doctored up enough to not taste like plain cream cheese. I like it when it's sweetened up in cheesecake or other spreads.

[UrsulasShadow]

Bagels and lox WITH capers! Yum!

Just do not eat before Tower of Terror/Rock'n Roller Coaster multiple combo.

[two-foxes]

Yes, I have heard of lox on bagels. My typical order at Gibs NY bagels, here in Colorado, is a seasame bagel, cream cheese, with lox, red onions and capers. I pity the close talkers who talk to me after eating it...

[DisneyKevin]

Bagels and lox WITH capers!

One of my favorite meals.

We love us some capers in the Klose/Magi house.:thumbsup2

[NC Belle]

Geez Louise...

you forgot to add in an option in the poll for those who may try it/other.



I have not tried lox yet.

[challer]

Have I heard of bagels & lox?

%$#%, yeah.

Do I like it? Sure do. Grew up on it... in NJ.

NB, if you hit a bagel store in Bergen County, you'll find it. Lots of kosher bagel places there.

(I don't know how it became a Jewish thing. I guarantee you it's found nowhere in the Talmud.)

My favorite breakfast to pick up on the way to work: toasted garlic bagel with cream cheese & lox.

I make yummy sounds the whole car ride on the Deegan Expressway.

[FireDancer]

I like fish and eat a lot of it. I also enjoy bagels. I don't, however, enjoy them together.

[SaraMc]

Lox are ok, but NY Style bagels have nothing on Montreal style bagels. Says the Canadian girl.
Mmmm with warm cream cheese. Ok now Im hungry ;)

[onestepcloser]

LOVE lox and cream cheese bagels! Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I love the lox cream cheese spread where it's all mixed together... 'cause I'm lazy.

[wishspirit]

I'm really more of a fishstick eater - and less of a fish connoisseur, so salmon is the last fish I want near me......or my bagel.

Agreed! :thumbsup2 (although we call them fish-fingers here)

Hi everyone, my first post on the podcast boards! :yay: I normally lurk around. You guys all seem so nice here :)
Debbie

Welcome Debbie! :wave:

I had to look up what Lox is, we just call it smoked salmon in the UK! I don't like both salmon and cream cheese, so apart from the bagel its all gross!

[parrotheadlois]

Bagels and lox WITH capers! Yum!

:thumbsup2 Agree!

[Ms. Belle]

I have definitely heard of bagels and lox and love them both together with onion. However, I don't like capers and avoid them at all cost. I usually push them off my plate, so that when it's picked up, there is a little ring of capers on the table.

[PeterPan09]

I like fish and eat a lot of it. I also enjoy bagels. I don't, however, enjoy them together.

Me either-I keep my bagels and fish (and capers) separate, thank you. I grew up in NJ and am very familiar with the bagel and fish combo, but it's not something I've ever done or will do.

No fish on pizza either....YUCK.

[mikelan6]

Bagels and Lox are a certainty on the holidays and at special occasions. But my personal taste, I'd rather have a nice tuna fish salad on a lightly toasted sesame seed bagel, thank you very much.

[Dale-Not-Chip]

There seems to be some confusion on Miss Nikki's part.

The conversation started when Nikki announced that "she had never heard of putting fish on bagels" and that "no one in NJ eats bagels and lox".

So in order for the poll to be an accurate representation of the conversation held in Chat....the poll should read HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF BAGELS AND LOX.

I know many, many people that dont care for it and that is certainly understandable.

You could wrap grapfruit in chocolate and $20 bills and I'm still not eating it.

But...please first let Nikki know whether you have ever HEARD of bagels and lox and then let her know if you actually like it.


What if the 20s were just used as a wrapper and you were allowed to take them off?

[DisneyKevin]

What if the 20s were just used as a wrapper and you were allowed to take them off?

I'd probably keep the $20s. :thumbsup2

[Dale-Not-Chip]

If you go to your local supermarket and go to the cream cheese section you will find cream cheese with salmon blended in.

It's not as good as just layering lox on a bagel but it has a longer shelf life and a bit more convenient.

Also Mickeys Breakfast buffet and the contemporary has Lox and Bagels on the buffet.

[kswm30b]

I don't like fish at all anyway, but my mom love bagels & lox. We live in NJ. One of my close friends lives in north Jersey, and she LOVES it. I just like butter. ;)

I was just looking at the Delish menus and pictures and can't wait to get some bagels on our next trip down in April. We have awful bagels down here in Southern NJ.

I'm in South Jersey, and we have a great bagel place 5 minutes away from us. I actually just had one this morning. :)

[BriarRosie]

Bagels and Lox are a certainty on the holidays and at special occasions. But my personal taste, I'd rather have a nice tuna fish salad on a lightly toasted sesame seed bagel, thank you very much.

Now that's where I'd prep a tuna melt in my toaster oven. I'd put some tuna salad on a bagel and put a slice of American cheese on it until it melted over the top. Yum.

[challer]

Not to change the subject, but you ever heard of an LEO?

Lox + eggs + onion

Great breakfast treat - on a bagel or straight up.

[challer]

Now that's where I'd prep a tuna melt in my toaster oven. I'd put some tuna salad on a bagel and put a slice of American cheese on it until it melted over the top. Yum.

Ah, the tuna melt bagel. I personally prefer mozarella. The pizza place near me makes a mean tuna melt bagel in the brick oven.

[mainegal]

Now that's where I'd prep a tuna melt in my toaster oven. I'd put some tuna salad on a bagel and put a slice of American cheese on it until it melted over the top. Yum.

I used to make grilled cheese and tuna salad sandwiches. Haven't had one in a long time. I haven't bought sliced sandwich bread in a long time!

[JVL1018]

I'm from Bergen County and there is lox at all the bagel places I go to, yet I've never known anyone to actually eat bagels and lox.
Someone must for the bagel store to keep it in stock, it won't be me, though.;)

[OKW Lover]

I've heard of bagels and lox. :teacher:

But I always wondered if they were combination lox. :rotfl:

[kab407]

Nikki Sweetie- you and I live 20 miles from each other. But, yet it seems like different world. Go into any NJ Diner, a bagel with lox and cream cheese is always on the menu. Agree with Kevin and John, gotta have capers.

You want to meet at Mastoris Diner one Sunday Morning?

[kab407]

I've heard of bagels and lox. :teacher:

But I always wondered if they were combination lox. :rotfl:

Bad Jeff!

Simply bad..............................:sad2:

[mainegal]

In Bordentown? Fabulous place!

I will meet people there next time I drive to South Jersey.

[OKW Lover]

Bad Jeff!

Simply bad..............................:sad2:

I try. :rolleyes1

[wdwscout]

Nikki, Nikki... I grew up in the town right next to yours- and I had bagels and lox almost every week. It was a staple.
And I agree- every bagel store and every NJ diner has it available- 40 years ago and even now.
Matawan Diner, Keyport Diner, (the former)Olga's Diner, Ponzio's - oh, and I do love Mastoris!!!

Almost everyone I know has at least heard of lox & cream cheese on a bagel and I know tons of people who actually eat it routinely.

I am in South Jersey now- and we have great bagels in my town- and yes, they sell lox there too. ;)
And when I lived in Chicago- it was on the menu at breakfast places everywhere.

The only place I couldn't find it- heck, I couldn't even find bagels!!- was in Indiana when I went to Purdue (eons ago). My son just graduated from Purude, and I am happy to report that they have bagels there now- and lox at some places!!!!! Even in the middle of nowhere. :hippie:

Have I heard of it- HECK YEAH!!
Do I like it- You bet :thumbsup2

[wdwscout]

In Bordentown? Fabulous place!

I will meet people there next time I drive to South Jersey.

Sounds like a GREAT idea- I'm in!!

[IWISHFORDISNEY]

Yes I have herd of Bagels and Lox. Everyone in my family eats this but me. They also add raw onions to it. Eeeewww I just like plain cream cheese on everything bagels. The best!!

[doconeill]

I've lox and bagels just once, at a Jewish wedding. Didn't mind it. I never was a sushi person though - I'll eat it occasionally, but haven't quite figured out what the fuss is.

I've also never cared for cream cheese. I can tolerate it on my bagel if its the only option, especially if it is an herb variety or something like that, but only if there is no butter around. Butter rocks.

Should I call DCL and make sure they stock up on lox in December? :)

[*NikkiBell*]

I've heard of bagels and lox. :teacher:

But I always wondered if they were combination lox. :rotfl:

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

Nikki Sweetie- you and I live 20 miles from each other. But, yet it seems like different world. Go into any NJ Diner, a bagel with lox and cream cheese is always on the menu. Agree with Kevin and John, gotta have capers.

You want to meet at Mastoris Diner one Sunday Morning?

Okay, well, maybe it is because I just don't eat weird foods?! :rotfl: I am going to check every diner from now on to see if it is on the menu. I am then going to ask if only Jewish people get it because that apparently is a standard according to a few including Lori. lol

I dunno where Mastoris Diner is. I'd love to meet there one time, but there's no way and heck I'm going for fishy bagels!!! You'll have to hog tie me and film it for everybody! :lmao:

You need to take Remedial Reading for Comprehension.

I didnt say you started the conversation.

I was asked what I was having for snack. I replied "bagels and lox".

You suggested you had "Never heard of bagels and lox and that no one in NJ eats bagels and lox".

And I'm not trying to hack your poll.

I'm making you more worldly.:thumbsup2

I don't need remedial reading. I teach reading. I was also an English major. I just purposely twisted the linguistics to suit my posts. ;):rolleyes1

If you are making me more worldly, wouldn't that require your getting me to actually EAT this?! Not happening!!! I don't think even a bribe would work....well, hmm...I guess it depends on what it is. ;)


As far as the Southern Jersey folks who posted about it, you know what is coming. According to everyone in Central and Northern NJ, Southern NJ is not a part of our state. :rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2: Therefore, you don't count! ;)

BTW, I had a bagel today at our monthly birthday breakfast celebration at work. I did NOT, however, eat a fishy one. :dance3:

[dgthree]

As far as the Southern Jersey folks who posted about it, you know what is coming. According to everyone in Central and Northern NJ, Southern NJ is not a part of our state. :rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2: Therefore, you don't count! ;)

Don't you know that NJ has its own version of the Mason/Dixon line? It used to be the Krauszer's/Wawa line, but that might be a little blurry now.

As far as diner menus go, you'll be surprised how many serve a bagel & lox platter. But IMO there are way better choices for a diner breakfast. =)

[wdwscout]

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

As far as the Southern Jersey folks who posted about it, you know what is coming. According to everyone in Central and Northern NJ, Southern NJ is not a part of our state. :rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2: Therefore, you don't count! ;)


Don't you know that NJ has its own version of the Mason/Dixon line?

That's for sure!!! :rotfl:
We even go so far as to associate ourselves with either NY or Philadelphia (neither of which are actually in NJ!!!)

I was born and raised in the northern section of the state (Bayonne, Woodbridge, Matawan, Long Branch),
but I am now a much happier (saner :laughing:) citizen of the nation of South Jersey!!!

(But I will admit- NYC beats the heck out of Philly...)

[*NikkiBell*]

Hmm. I'm sensing a Jerzy DISer diner meet in the near future.

[DUHgreg]

Hmm. I'm sensing a Jerzy DISer diner meet in the near future.

Count us in! We even have one or two good diners out in Warren County.

For the record: Toasted bagel with butter
Smoked salmon (lox) with my own sour cream, horseradish and caper dressing

Now I'm hungry again.:rotfl2:

[DUHgreg]

Now that's where I'd prep a tuna melt in my toaster oven. I'd put some tuna salad on a bagel and put a slice of American cheese on it until it melted over the top. Yum.

Prefer chedder slices on mine.

[DUHgreg]

Not to change the subject, but you ever heard of an LEO?

Lox + eggs + onion

Great breakfast treat - on a bagel or straight up.

Red or white onions?
Anything to avoid the cream cheese is good by me.

It's not a Mason/Dixon line. It's a sandwich quadrangle: hero, hoagie, sub or grinder.

[mainegal]

Should I call DCL and make sure they stock up on lox in December? :)

Oh, yes.
Oh, YES, PLEASE!

[mainegal]

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:




I dunno where Mastoris Diner is. I'd love to meet there one time, but there's no way and heck I'm going for fishy bagels!!!



Mastori's in in Bordentown, south of Trenton.
You are near the shore, Tom's River area?
Mastori's is not in your neighborhood.


And, they are not fishy bagels!
They are bagels with smoked fish.
How odd would a bagel be if the fish was baked into it?!

[DUHgreg]

Should I call DCL and make sure they stock up on lox in December? :)

Only if they understand that you're referring to the smoked fish, not liquid oxygen (sorry, that's what I remember from my much younger days following the U.S. space program).:rolleyes1

[mainegal]

As far as the Southern Jersey folks who posted about it, you know what is coming. According to everyone in Central and Northern NJ, Southern NJ is not a part of our state.



That's for sure, and proud of it!

Yes, I have lived in Maine for 22 years, but I am still a product of South Jersey.

I even have citizenship papers to prove that I am a resident of the great state of South Jersey. Got them around thirty years ago when South Jersey was threatening to secede.

[doconeill]

Only if they understand that you're referring to the smoked fish, not liquid oxygen (sorry, that's what I remember from my much younger days following the U.S. space program).:rolleyes1

Well, it would make for a very interesting cruise...but please, NO SMOKING!

[DisneyKevin]

: I am going to check every diner from now on to see if it is on the menu. I am then going to ask if only Jewish people get it because that apparently is a standard.

Every once in a while something comes along and you think to yourself "I shouldnt miss this".

The dinner in the Great Movie Ride was like that.

This also falls into that category.

Please ask Sean to get a Flip video camera so that the rest of the Dis Unplugged folks can enjoy this.

I'm slightly hysterical thinking about it.:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

[DUHgreg]

Well, it would make for a very interesting cruise...but please, NO SMOKING!

:rotfl2:

[disneycruise05]

I love me some bagels and lox! My absolute favorite is an everything bagel, plain schmear (not too much, but not so little that I don't have to go searching for it), a nice thick piece slice of tomato, and raw red onions (either a pile of very, VERY thinly sliced or 1 thick slice). It's to die for!

[rtobe]

Bagels and lox WITH capers! Yum!

Just do not eat before Tower of Terror/Rock'n Roller Coaster multiple combo.
:lmao::rotfl2:my thoughts exactly don't forget the onion and tomato

[rtobe]

[quote=*NikkiBell*;35219217





I don't need remedial reading. I teach reading. I was also an English major. I just purposely twisted the linguistics to suit my posts. ;):rolleyes1

[/quote]

Nikki - I'm thinking you have a second career coming .... only lawyers and painters can change black to white....:)

now returning to my bagel w/lox and cream cheese

[*NikkiBell*]

Kevin, I think this may have to be DIS event. I don't think Sean can get me to eat it. Rofl

[wdwscout]

Hmm. I'm sensing a Jerzy DISer diner meet in the near future.

You know the rules... name the date! :thumbsup2
As for the place-Mastoris would be an ideal location by the way- nice and centrally located (right off the turnpike, 295, 195, 206, etc.)

[SusanWasHere]

You know the rules... name the date! :thumbsup2
As for the place-Mastoris would be an ideal location by the way- nice and centrally located (right off the turnpike, 295, 195, 206, etc.)

I'm from Jackson - central Jersey, lol - and would totally be in for a meet at Mastoris! They have the best cheese bread.... omg to die for!! :thumbsup2

[kswm30b]

Nikki, Nikki... I grew up in the town right next to yours- and I had bagels and lox almost every week. It was a staple.
And I agree- every bagel store and every NJ diner has it available- 40 years ago and even now.
Matawan Diner, Keyport Diner, (the former)Olga's Diner, Ponzio's - oh, and I do love Mastoris!!!

Love Ponzios & Olgas is missed. :(

Okay, well, maybe it is because I just don't eat weird foods?! :rotfl: I am going to check every diner from now on to see if it is on the menu. I am then going to ask if only Jewish people get it because that apparently is a standard according to a few including Lori. lol

It generally is a Jewish food, but bagels started out as a Jewish food, too.

As far as the Southern Jersey folks who posted about it, you know what is coming. According to everyone in Central and Northern NJ, Southern NJ is not a part of our state. :rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2: Therefore, you don't count! ;)

When people ask me where I'm from, I generally say "near Philadelphia" rather than NJ (or "NJ, near Philadelphia.") Some in South Jersey don't count North Jersey as part of our state either. ;)

[*NikkiBell*]

So, we just happened to go to a diner yesterday afternoon for lunch. Low and behold, "Nova Scotia Lox" was on the bagel menu. I am convinced it is for the non-NJ patrons. ;)

[froggy5657]

Last night in chat was quite strange; well, stranger than usual. Kevin started talking about eating fishy bagels and it got me thinking. How many of you eat lox on your bagel? I don't know anyone here in NJ who does so. I even asked at work today and couldn't find one person.

To be fishy or not to be fishy. That is the question. ;)

I'm from NJ and I sometimes eat lox on my bagel. I love sushi too.

[disneyholic family]

I love me some bagels and lox! My absolute favorite is an everything bagel, plain schmear (not too much, but not so little that I don't have to go searching for it), a nice thick piece slice of tomato, and raw red onions (either a pile of very, VERY thinly sliced or 1 thick slice). It's to die for!

sounds good to me !!


by the way, have you never heard of Scottish smoked salmon?
i'm willing to bet a kings ransom that it has nothing to do with jews... :rolleyes:

coming back with a link:
http://www.smokedsalmon.co.uk/prodpage.asp?type=sub&sub=SMSA

[DisneyWorldbuff]

I think it is mostly a Jewish thing. I've never tried it.

I'm from a family of mostly WASPs:lmao: and it is one of our favorite things to eat! It is actually a family tradition to eat Lox and Bagels on Christmas morning; so it is certainly not a Jewish thing

[DUHgreg]

I'm from NJ and I sometimes eat lox on my bagel. I love sushi too.

Sushi on a bagel? Could be a new taste sensation.:eek:

[parrotheadlois]

You know the rules... name the date! :thumbsup2
As for the place-Mastoris would be an ideal location by the way- nice and centrally located (right off the turnpike, 295, 195, 206, etc.)

We're from "nowhere NJ" - but we'll find it - name the date :thumbsup2
me and DUHGreg

Oh, it's only an hour and 40 minutes, no problem!