The best laid plans of mouse and woman... a pre-trip report

[JLR]

So, this is my first attempt at a Pre-trip report because this is my first trip to Disney.
The cast:
Me (40/41 at the time of the trip!) I am the working stiff in my family. Hey, I was the one who racked up all those student loans!
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Madeline (8/9 at the time of the trip) She is a third grader who loves to read and adores animals. She plans to be a veterinarian when she grows up. Sadly, she is beyond the absolutely-crazy-for-Princesses phase. She has traveled quite a bit.
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I hate to leave out the supporting cast who will be left out of all the fun:
My sainted husband who is a Stay-at-home Dad who suffers from motion sickness and says “absolutely not” when I suggested that we all travel together.
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Elena is my sweet and strong-willed 2 year old. She, like all my children, loves to be read to.
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Viviana is my good natured helper. In addition to books, she also loves music and dancing. She is the most picky about sleeping arrangements.
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[JLR]

Here is a lot of boring background information. Skip it if you like, but I enjoy reading this stuff, so here it goes. I have wanted to go to Disney all my life, but as part of a big family, we never could afford to go, and somehow or another I just never got there as an adult. Well, I had been casually planning a trip for February 2007 for my DH, DD (then almost 6), and myself. We were going to stay at CSR, but I did not have any obsessive information or planning going on. Well, October came along and I found out I was expecting, but that’s no reason to cancel a Disney trip right? So November comes along and my first OB appointment. My doctor thought we should check out the little critter on ultrasound, when across the sack is this line. Uh oh! I thought maybe it’s just the umbilical cord, nope clearly two babies. There goes our Disney trip. No travelling in 2007. Now I was lucky – picture perfect pregnancy, full term, no problems, I had to be induced at term (in June)! I could totally have gone to Disney! Oh well. IMHO, the first two years after twins is a bit grim. Last summer as I emerged from total exhaustion is when this all started.

One Sunday, I had been lamenting all the plastic junk in our house, most of which came in from birthday and Christmas gifts. Later, I was looking over what we had spent on DD8’s birthday and I made the comment “Gee we could have gone to Disney for that much money!” Famous last words! My husband aided and abetted me by saying “why don’t you?” So I started doing research. I had enough FF miles for two plane tickets, and John didn’t think we should all go. The babies do not sleep well out of their cribs and he didn’t think it would be a vacation to haul the twins around especially if they were cranky and sleep deprived. So heroically, I offered my husband (who is a SAHD) the opportunity to take her. He doesn’t think he will like Disney (see me snickering in the next room) and he hates “rides” so he just knows it wouldn’t be fun. So I get to do it. I just hope he doesn’t feel too bad in 2012 when we go and he realizes he could have had a great time.

So, based on availability for the FF tickets, I book us at POP and pick up an Unofficial Guide. Then I got all worked up about ADRs and got crazy planning and had everything worked out for Black Tuesday (October 27) and spent hours getting through to make my ADRs which I then 2 months later changed (easily) when UG and TGM changed recommended parks. Then my parents and in-laws donated to the cause instead of buying junk for Christmas, so we upgraded to CSR. Then I got a PIN and upgraded to Beach Club Villas. I thought it might be worth it to be close to at least 2 parks. Of course the initial $1000 trip has now mushroomed to almost triple that, but that is why I am teaching an extra class![/COLOR][/COLOR]

[JLR]

I would love any feedback about this plan that I have sweated over in a crazy and neurotic (but fun) way!

“The best laid plans of mouse and woman” As of today, this is the plan:

Day 1 Tuesday, April 20 Wake Madeline up in the morning and tell her “actually, Mommy is not going on a work trip, she is taking you to Disney!” Travel and arrive in Orlando at 11:28 am: Drop our things at Beach Club Villas, eat lunch and either swim and rest or go straight to MK. The only things I feel strongly that we HAVE to do is go to our ADR at Crystal Palace for supper and Spectromagic at 9 pm. I was hoping to get in any of the following: Mickey’s Philharmagic, Jungle Cruise, POTC, Buzz Lightyears’ Space Ranger Spin, and/or Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor. If the line isn’t a mile long, I’ve been thinking that Goofy’s barnstormer might be a good test run for the thrill rides. So we’ll see what we can do. We are not planning to stay for Wishes tonight.

Day 2 Epcot hopefully at rope drop. I was hoping that it would be nice just to walk over. I plan to do the mad dash for Soarin.’ After that it really depends on Madeline. I don’t know whether she’ll want to do TT or MS. This is where it is hard not telling her. She’s only been on state fair type rides in her life and I don’t know if she is up to much thrill. Of course I want to do everything, but I have resigned myself that this trip is to make her happy. I’m sure that in 2 years she will be up to riding everything with Mommy! (My DH is cursed with a sensitivity to motion sickness so I’m delighted that this does not seem to be the case with my children!) We have ADR for lunch at Akershus and I’m hoping that she’ll want to do one of those Kim Possible adventures afterward. When we are tired, I was thinking we’d go back to BC to swim and relax. I would like to go back to MK in the evening. Perhaps we can get to some of the attractions I listed for day 1 and then grab a CS supper and watch Wishes at 9 pm and get home. I suppose I should mention that I have been trying to keep as close as possible to normal bedtime which is 9 pm EST (8 where we live). Missy Madeline is a MUCH better companion when we keep to her normal schedule. So I’m hoping to be home every night not much later than 10. We’ll see if that is possible.

Day 3 Animal Kingdom: Again, I don’t know if my child will be up to EE (or dinosaur) but I think she will love everything else at this park! We’ll have a CS lunch here and probably leave in the early afternoon. We have supper ADRs at Biergarten because Madeline is crazy for Germany. Hopefully we can tour a bit more of World Showcase and stay for Illuminations. So if all goes according to plan we’ll have the three nighttime spectaculars I think she’d like under our belts.

Day 4 Here is where I am unsure. We have crack of dawn ADRs at Chef Mickey’s because I am hoping to be at MK for rope drop. But – we will have been up late three nights in a row. So I don’t know if it will be worth it to give her the chance to meet the characters. We will be paying for this out of pocket since I am using up a lot of TS credits for dinner shows. I am keeping this reservation for now, but I am worried about it. (Neurotic, I know). I am hoping we can thoroughly tour Fantasyland and Frontierland. I have my fingers crossed she will be up for Splash and BTMR. I am kind of anticipating “hitting the wall” on this day. (I know – how can you predict stuff like that? I try to plan everything, but see title) So the plan is that as soon as we feel tired, cranky, or overwhelmed, we’ll go back to the hotel. Now I have some back-up plans for tonight. Just in case we “hit the wall” early on Thursday and stay home missing supper and Illuminations, I do have ADR for tonight at Biergarten (which I promise to promptly cancel if we don’t need them) and we’ll watch Illuminations then. I’d rather not since this is an EMR evening for Epcot and MK is closing early for Grad nights. Ideally we’ll just do something casual on the Boardwalk and go to be early.

Day 5 I had initially planned to skip DHS altogether and got to Discovery Cove today to recharge our batteries, but now I think this is what we may do, depending on what Madeline wants. I thought maybe we could do a few am EMH at DHS and play Toy Story Mania at least. Then when M is done at DHS we’d hop over to MK which is supposed to be slow. We’ll see if UG Crowd Calendar is correct. I don’t have any huge plans, just going with the flow. I would like to go over to FW in the late afternoon and check out the ranch before our ADRs at Mickey’s Backyard Barbeque.

Day 6 This is now the day we’ll go to Discovery Cove. I debated and debated if this was the right trip for this, but Madeline LOVES animals and the twins will still not be old enough to swim with the dolphins in 2012. I thought this might be a good way to recharge our batteries and do something super special. That evening we will play by ear, but tentatively we will have a CS meal at Epcot or the Boardwalk and then maybe go to the campfire at the BC.

Day 7 Your admission to Discovery Cove includes tickets to Sea World – so that is where we will go this day. I still am debating about doing tours or just hanging out there. We do have later supper ADR at Kouzzina. M is a huge Iron Chef fan especially Cat Cora, so this is a must do.

Day 8 Our last park day! Again we have crack of dawn ADR at Cape May Café, but I’m unsure if it is worth going. Then I thought I’d let Madeline choose wherever she wanted to go. MK or AK supposedly would be good choices. We have ADRs for Hoopdeedoo.

Day 9 So sad we’ll have to get on Magic Express at 7:45 am.

One of the things I really like about some of the other trip reports (I am so sorry I can't remember whose!) was the reminder that we are there to have fun and build great memories. I hope I can keep that in mind and not go too commando!

[JLR]

I have been messaged offline that I should not miss Fantasmic. I hope some of you will chime in and tell me what you think. Do you suppose it would be possible and not too stressful to go to an 8:30 Fantasmic after the 5 pm Hoop Dee Doo on our last night? Is it worth it?

Julie

[OhMari]

Hi,
I just read over your plans.
Plus, I am going to move you over to our pre-trip boards. Let me know when you return and I'll bring it back over to our trip report board.

Anyways, you are going to be so close to Epcot, and you will be going in the back way, so the walk is a little longer to Soarin. If it isn't to busy, do Soarin right away in the morning, otherwise grab a fastpass and do The Land.
Take your dd over to the aquarium and see Crush-Talkin Turtle. I think the first show is at 10:00 or 10:30. he is hilarious.

You will love the Boardwalk area. Maybe take some time at nite and see all the different performers, jugglers, magicians etc.

We swam with the dolphins in Cozumel and is your dd a good swimmer? If she is, the better program you can sign up for. If not, she will just get a kiss from the dolphin and a hug. If she is able to swim, you can do the push/pull.
We had 2 little girls in our group, and they were afraid at first, partially because the waves were strong that day, and going over our head. We were in the ocean, and not in a protected area like Orlando. Also, it will be over $30 or more for a taxi to get to Sea World too, just one way. Maybe play around with renting a car for 2 days. You will only need an economy and you get pick it up over at the Dolphin/Swan, which is on the otherside of the Boardwalk.

Other than that, your plans look great. I hope you can convince your dh to join you sometime. I get very dizzy on rides, and WDW will do everything it can, to make things enjoyable for motion sickness people. There are so many other things to do, that will not make him sick.

[JLR]

Thank you OhMari. Yes, My daughter is an exceptionally strong swimmer. we joke that is why she needed to come a bit prematurely - so she could be a pisces! Thanks for the idea of the car rental. I didn't realize the on-site rental place was so close! I had been toying with the diea of taking the bus from the TTC, but I think driving would be more relaxing and I am anticipating being truly exhausted by then! It has been hard to find out what they have on the boardwalk - I assume because it changes all the time?

My husband does plan to come when we all come in 2012 and I think he will enjoy himself. I do agree that travelling with the twins is extremely stressful, but I bring up having us all go whenever I think about how long we will be away and also feeling guilty about how much fun they'll miss out on.

Anyway - thanks for taking the time!

Julie

[girlbomb]

Julie, I'm so excited for you, with your upcoming trip! It sounds to me like you're trying to pack in a lot of great stuff, all of it well-chosen, but I think you can stand to lower your expectations in a few areas -- for instance, to do *all* the Kim Possible adventures would take many, many hours, which is why I think many families choose to do a few at a time. And I'm glad you're being flexible about things like the Chef Mickey's ADR -- if the day comes and you two are too tired, know that you'll be back in 2012 and can do it then. I hope you two will have an amazing time, and that you'll write us a full report! :thumbsup2

[JLR]

Thanks Girlbomb (I'm going to have to read your book now)! I have been un-planning for the last month or so to lower my expectations and ensure I can keep the right frame of mind to have fun!.

[gallmcduck]

Just read through your thread your plans are looking really good. What a surprise for your daughter. Really liking your flexibility with ADRs and sensing that you may hit a wall during some points. Fantasmic in our opinion is a must however not having done hoopdeedoo before couldn't say how long that lasts but going with other shows it might be a bit stressy doing both and getting to DHS for fantasmic.

[cmp1111]

Don't forget, if you're taking ME and planning on a swim right when you arrive - you'll want your swimsuits in your carryons. :thumbsup2

I have twins, too. I agree that the first year is completely unbelievably hard. :scared: My boys are in 2nd grade now, and by now it's pretty easy - but I don't have an older child! :goodvibes

Your plans look great - flexibility is good, too! I'm not a Fantasmic fan myself, but I can see wanting to at least see it once.

[JLR]

I have to say - I have to credit the DIS with anticipating that we might hit the wall. I have learned so much from all of you dedicated posters!

[smithpack]

:yay: You started a PTR! I am so glad! Ok, You have to take video or pictures of the moment you tell Madeline. I so want to see her face!!

I think your plans look great. You can get a lot done by following TGM's way of doing MK if you get there at rope drop. I think it is good that your first day you are planning on doing the Tomorrowland side because I know on your day that you follow TGM, it takes you through the other half of the park. Your plan's look great! At least when you go the crowds shouldn't be heavy, so you will probably get a lot done. I will just tell you now, you can't do everything in one day. That is why Disney is addicting, because you go the first time and have so much fun and then you think to yourself that there is still some stuff you didn't get to do. Then you have to start planning your next trip.

We have been WDW four times, and still have not done everything there is to do!! It is awesome!

Keep up the posting!

[JLR]

:yay: You started a PTR! I am so glad! Ok, You have to take video or pictures of the moment you tell Madeline. I so want to see her face!!

I think your plans look great. You can get a lot done by following TGM's way of doing MK if you get there at rope drop. I think it is good that your first day you are planning on doing the Tomorrowland side because I know on your day that you follow TGM, it takes you through the other half of the park. Your plan's look great! At least when you go the crowds shouldn't be heavy, so you will probably get a lot done. I will just tell you now, you can't do everything in one day. That is why Disney is addicting, because you go the first time and have so much fun and then you think to yourself that there is still some stuff you didn't get to do. Then you have to start planning your next trip.

We have been WDW four times, and still have not done everything there is to do!! It is awesome!

Keep up the posting!

Thanks - That was my thought as well. The TGM plan sounds good. It is funny to already be thinking of what we will do on the NEXT trip! I don't have video capability (I know, I am practically in the dark ages!) but I will try to get it photographed.
Julie

[JLR]

Actually we are taking the Fast Passes. I just thought it was such a good idea! There are limited opportunities in North Dakota and we were initially going to make the blankets. Then I saw the opportunity to make the Haiti Care kits which seemed like a timely and good thing to do. We had wanted to do something more active than send money to the Red Cross (which we did as well). So I signed up for it. Well you have to make 10 kits per person and each kit must contain the following:
• One hand towel
• One washcloth
• One wide-tooth comb or pick
• One small bottle of shampoo
• One toothbrush
• One travel size tube of toothpaste
• Ten adhesive bandages
• One wrapped bar of soap sealed in a sandwich size zip lock bag
• A homemade card or drawing
If you don't buy in bulk, then each kit ends up costing about $7 before you even ship them, but I really wanted to do this project. Well, when I was at my Dd's school talking about some carelessness in math :rolleyes1 and how to deal with it she had mentioned that the kids wanted to do something.... so I might as well buy in bulk, right? So we are making 120 of these kits on February 26th, or rather we are making 100 at school and Madeline and I will make 20 at home to meet the Give-a-day requirements. I did get the cost down to about $4.40 per kit (before postage:scared1:) but it is a good cause, right? Well, hopefully I am fostering good moral development. :grouphug:
Madeline still doesn't know this is for Disney!

[smithpack]

Actually we are taking the Fast Passes. I just thought it was such a good idea! There are limited opportunities in North Dakota and we were initially going to make the blankets. Then I saw the opportunity to make the Haiti Care kits which seemed like a timely and good thing to do. We had wanted to do something more active than send money to the Red Cross (which we did as well). So I signed up for it. Well you have to make 10 kits per person and each kit must contain the following:
• One hand towel
• One washcloth
• One wide-tooth comb or pick
• One small bottle of shampoo
• One toothbrush
• One travel size tube of toothpaste
• Ten adhesive bandages
• One wrapped bar of soap sealed in a sandwich size zip lock bag
• A homemade card or drawing
If you don't buy in bulk, then each kit ends up costing about $7 before you even ship them, but I really wanted to do this project. Well, when I was at my Dd's school talking about some carelessness in math :rolleyes1 and how to deal with it she had mentioned that the kids wanted to do something.... so I might as well buy in bulk, right? So we are making 120 of these kits on February 26th, or rather we are making 100 at school and Madeline and I will make 20 at home to meet the Give-a-day requirements. I did get the cost down to about $4.40 per kit (before postage:scared1:) but it is a good cause, right? Well, hopefully I am fostering good moral development. :grouphug:
Madeline still doesn't know this is for Disney!

Wow, the free day doesn't sound so free. Well, at least it is for a good cause and your daughter probably feels more good about helping Haiti since she doesn't know about the Disney part in return. That just shows what a great girl she is.

The trip is getting closer and closer!!:dance3:

[gallmcduck]

What a great plan for this cause :thumbsup2

[JLR]

Wow, the free day doesn't sound so free. Well, at least it is for a good cause and your daughter probably feels more good about helping Haiti since she doesn't know about the Disney part in return. That just shows what a great girl she is.

The trip is getting closer and closer!!:dance3:

Thanks for reading. It is so nice to share with others!

I am getting SOOOOOOOOO excited! :banana: I think tomorrow is the 60 day mark! I don't know how I am going to make it without bursting! I am looking forward to doing the charity and I'm sure we will enjoy our fast passes - I just wish we could get all 12 (for 120 kits) instead of one per person!

[JLR]

What a great plan for this cause :thumbsup2

Thanks! It is fun and I feel good about supporting the kids who want to do something. We haven't always been able to afford to do stuff like this, so it is nice to do when you can if you know what I mean.

[GreatBiscuit]

Just read through your PTR. Your plans look great. The kits were a neat idea. Our church does those same kits year round for NCM.org. Each month we have Crisis Care Kit Item of the Month and everyone drops them in a basket in the foyer. 120 is a LOT of care kits. That's so awesome that you go the school involved. Hope you have an fatastic trip!

[JLR]

Thanks GB for the vote of confidence. I really enjoyed your TR - you are a great writer and it seems a pretty great Dad!

Here are some photos from making the Haiti Care Kits.
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Madeline completes the first kit.

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz125/julierickert/IMG_4169.jpg Elena is "helping"

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Here we've got our production line going.

Of course I am talking while the picture is being taken, oh well.

Right when we got the hang of it, then we were done. Madeline wanted to do a lot more!

A few days later, we made them at school. I'm not going to post thoses photos, because it wouldn't be right to do that without permission.

In the third grade, I sorted the items out into kits groups and then the kids assembled them and made the sweetest cards. While they were working we talked about earthquakes and the differences for kids who grow up in the US or other developed nations and kids who grow up in other areas of the world.

In the fourth grade, I set up a production line: that ended up being a lot less efficient and the student teacher, the regular teacher and I frantically worked during PE to finish everything up.

I wish I had thought to photograph some of the cards the kids made. Seeing those cards was almost worth the whole effort.

All of the extra items went to our local Domestic Violence Crisis Center.

Now I can feel totally awesome about going to Disney in 42 days!:banana: OK - back to work. I am not done preparing for lectures today.

[gallmcduck]

:cool1::cool1::cool1: your trip is getting closer. Loved your pics :thumbsup2

[JLR]

:cool1::cool1::cool1: your trip is getting closer. Loved your pics :thumbsup2

Thanks!

Wow - I can hardly believe that my trip is only 5 weeks from tomorrow! :cool1:

I ordered Ride Max - I don't know that it will give me all that much more than TGM, but we'll see. It I think is helpful in developing the strategy for the evenings we will be at MK. It looks like we may be able to get a fair number of rides done on the two evenings, so we don't have to be totally commando on our rope drop day.

I still don't know when or at what park we'll use our GAD FPs. It is comforting to have them just in case!

It is funny that my daughter, who still doesn't know we are going told me the other day"when we go to Disney we HAVE to eat at Cat Cora's restaurant!" I wanted to tell her I've got you covered honey!:thumbsup2 I just played it cool.

Madeline's birthday is on Wednesday. I want so badly to tell her! She is being so good about this delay of gratification thing!:love: I hope she won't be too tired at the airport when I finally tell her!

[cmp1111]

Wow - I can hardly believe that my trip is only 5 weeks from tomorrow! :cool1:

So close! :goodvibes

[smithpack]

I was wondering why I hadn't gotten your latest update, and then I noticed that I still had not subscribed to your thread. Don't worry, I am subbing now. Your trip is so close, and I look forward to hearing about it. Your DD is going to be so excited!!!

:dance3::dance3:

Love the care package production line, and I am sure that your younger DD that was on the table was a big help.;) I know how that kind of help goes.

[JLR]

I was wondering why I hadn't gotten your latest update, and then I noticed that I still had not subscribed to your thread. Don't worry, I am subbing now. Your trip is so close, and I look forward to hearing about it. Your DD is going to be so excited!!!

:dance3::dance3:

Love the care package production line, and I am sure that your younger DD that was on the table was a big help.;) I know how that kind of help goes.

I'm sure you do! :rotfl: I always forget about subbing and then end up searching all over for the threads!

Now I've got this big huge list of everything I want to bring, but of course I really don't want to check any bags on the way down. (I am planning to check a bag for souvies on the way back) Normally I travel very light, but the more you DIS, the more you think you need!

Madeline's 9th birthday was yesterday. We had cupcakes at school and a nice supper at a local Thai restaurant (her choice). Awesome food - totally cheap except that I had to leave an enromous tip to cover the truly masterful mess the twins left. Now that I think of it - I wish I had taken a picture of te mess!

My newest dilemma: contact lenses.

My DD is in no way ready for contact lenses, but I thought it would be great for our Discovery Cove day. Well at her eye appointment they gave us a whole bunch of single day disposable lenses. We are going to try them out this weekend. If she can tolerate them we may use them throughout the trip - then she can wear real dark sunglasses instead of the clip on kind. How wierd is this - she wears the same Rx as I do! I am still going to order prescription goggles for her, just in case. She can use those for swim class and this summer.

[gallmcduck]

I'm thinking you may be on your way to wdw :confused3 How did the surprise go? Was it just great to see DD's face at the surprise? Have a wonderful trip :thumbsup2

[bitohoney]

Yay I found someone going the exact same dates as me!

[gallmcduck]

Duh I've just realised that we are still in March :rotfl2: silly me you've still got a month :yay: Hope the suprise goes as planned :goodvibes

[JLR]

Yay I found someone going the exact same dates as me!

-*Yeah!:banana::cool1: I hope the crowds and weather cooperate. I'll write more later. My children are trying to "help."

[JLR]

Gall McDuck: :lmao: How I wish!!!!! But I am in the last 4 week countdown.

Bitohoney: I feel the same way. I am so euphoric I want everyone else to have this happiness! Too bad our kids are such different ages - otherwise we could share our GAD FPs.

Woo Hoo :cool1:

I checked the Discovery Cove site today and learned that they lowered the price on the day I want to attend (4/25) $40 per ticket! So I saved a total of $85.60!

I am still debating about the Sea World Guided tour. I think 7 hours starting at 10:30 in the morning on day 7 of our trip will be too much! If I cancel that, that is $225 back in my pocket although I'll have to spring for lunch, drinks, and snacks.

I still have NO idea if Madeline will be a ride junkie or not! State Fair Midway rides don't give you an idea of what a real ride is like!

Oh well - even if I choose "wrong" I think we'll have an awesome time! :woohoo:

Oh - you know all this talk of money saved: well not really in the long run. I bought a laptop to take with us! I've been resisting getting one - I like the old towers! But last fall I could really have used one at a conference, and best buy had exactly what I wanted for less than $400 so I got it! I thought it would be nice to be able to run Ridemax in the morning and download (and upload to photobucket) my photos every night as back-up. So see - I'm not really saving anything!:laughing:

I was using the laptop to access DIS the other night (when I had to stop my post) when the babies went nuts for the dancing banana:banana:! Now they ask me several times a day if they can see the dancing banana and the pictures of "mommypoppymadlinlenafifnana" from the first page of my pretrip report! I cannot believe that Madeline hasn't caught on yet!

She is very funny! She is voraciously planning for Minneapolis! (Sound like anyone she is related to?!): Mall-of-America, the indoor amusement park and aquarium, all the shopping, the pool at the hotel, the Minneapolis zoo and she read that Minneapolis has an American Girl Store. I hope she won't be too disappointed to go to Disney!:rotfl:

[smithpack]

That is too funny that Madeline is planning for Minnieapolis. She will be so excited about Disney, but she may panic that she doesn't have any plans.:lmao:

I also like this name....mommypoppymadlinlenafifnana

Can't wait to hear about Discovery Cove. I have heard good things about it!!

[JLR]

That is too funny that Madeline is planning for Minnieapolis. She will be so excited about Disney, but she may panic that she doesn't have any plans.:lmao:

I also like this name....mommypoppymadlinlenafifnana

Can't wait to hear about Discovery Cove. I have heard good things about it!!

I get a kick out of that as well. I think the way they all say Viviana as Feefeenana is so cute (hard not to copy). My husband says it would be a great name for an all female Sha-na-na tribute band.:cutie:

I am excited too and if we don't do it this trip it will probably be 4 years since I think it would be cruel to go in 2012 when Elena and Viviana will not be old enough yet to swim with the dolphins. You know this means it's 6.75 years before you can take all your family!:rolleyes1

[JLR]

Some minor changes in hours at WDW

They are adding spectromagic almost every night I am there except the Grad nights. Does that mean it is going to be packed?:scared1:

I just booked the Wishes Dessert party for myself and my daughter for Wednesday the 21st - the day we are planning to see Wishes. Now I am second guessing. 2 things: 1. Disney has Wishes scheduled at 9 and Spectro at 10 (only 1 parade that night) - is that possible? Would they keep Wishes early and Spectro later? 2. I was planning to watch Wishes farther down Main Street and "slip" out of the park before the mobs.

I guess there is a third thing: Too much sugar makes me hypoglycemic so I'll probably just be having the fruit anyway.

Maybe I'll cancel.

[DisMomAmy]

Hi! :wave2: Thanks for stopping by my PTR - thought I'd come over and join your fun too. Your plans look great - but it looks like you'll probably be at Discovery Cove & Sea World on the days we overlap so it does't look like we'll cross paths.

Your family is beautiful. I think it's fantastic that you're taking a mother/oldest daughter trip. You will both have blast - and you're staying at my dream resort. :goodvibes

[skier_pete]

Some minor changes in hours at WDW

They are adding spectromagic almost every night I am there except the Grad nights. Does that mean it is going to be packed?:scared1:

I just booked the Wishes Dessert party for myself and my daughter for Wednesday the 21st - the day we are planning to see Wishes. Now I am second guessing. 2 things: 1. Disney has Wishes scheduled at 9 and Spectro at 10 (only 1 parade that night) - is that possible? Would they keep Wishes early and Spectro later? 2. I was planning to watch Wishes farther down Main Street and "slip" out of the park before the mobs.

I guess there is a third thing: Too much sugar makes me hypoglycemic so I'll probably just be having the fruit anyway.

Maybe I'll cancel.

Hi, just came over from your DHS TSM question post and real quick scanned your PTR....our trip dates are overlapping, and we are surprising DD(6 almost 7) with our trip as well. (She doesn't have a clue, she is a total WDW addict and talks about it all the time, but only knows we are going in October.)

So....on your question above, while it's extremely rare to have Spectro after Wishes, it does occasionally happen. (Usually on busy days there are 2 Spectros, one before and one after...but on this date (4/21) it appears only to be after.)

I personally would skip the Wishes dessert party. I have heard many bad reviews for the quality of the desserts, and I can vouch that the location is not the greatest for Wishes (though it's pretty good). So NOT worth the money. The BEST is to stand just south of the hub. If you want to leave right after Wishes, you can still get through the crowds pretty quickly if it is just you and DD. When leaving, a lot of people will be sticking around for Spectro...head into the stores on the right side as you head down main street. (Not, Casey's, but the one just past it.) They are all connected together inside, and you will be able to get through the crowds much faster. (Make sure to check the calendar when you get there...they may throw an 8 PM Spectro in there at the last minute.)

A bit of other advice...the #1 thing that new travelers to WDW do wrong is to not know what they are getting into and not make a plan....the #2 thing they do wrong is plan to do too much. I worry with your schedule you are falling into the second category. Your DD is a bit older than ours, but ours couldn't handle the pace you have. (And she is a WDW-vet, this being her 5th trip). Late nights and early mornings take their tolls after a few days. I am not telling you to change your plans, I am just suggesting that you go into it with an attitude of being flexible, and understanding that you may need to cut some things out of your plan and not be too disappointed.

Quite honestly, as veterans of many trips now - I still find that 10 days is not enough to see everything we want to see - and we don't squeeze in Discovery Cove. If you get yourself too exhausted you simply won't be having any fun. Just remind yourself that you will come back again.

And to answer your other question - yup, I think the crowds will be pretty good sized - a lot of Northerners (NY and Mass both at least) have spring break that week too...another reason we are making it a short trip and dragging it into the following week...hopefully avoiding the worst of the crowds...it won't quite be easter crowds as the Southerners are all back in school, but I expect moderate crowds that week.

[JLR]

Hi, just came over from your DHS TSM question post and real quick scanned your PTR....our trip dates are overlapping, and we are surprising DD(6 almost 7) with our trip as well. (She doesn't have a clue, she is a total WDW addict and talks about it all the time, but only knows we are going in October.)

So....on your question above, while it's extremely rare to have Spectro after Wishes, it does occasionally happen. (Usually on busy days there are 2 Spectros, one before and one after...but on this date (4/21) it appears only to be after.)

I personally would skip the Wishes dessert party. I have heard many bad reviews for the quality of the desserts, and I can vouch that the location is not the greatest for Wishes (though it's pretty good). So NOT worth the money. The BEST is to stand just south of the hub. If you want to leave right after Wishes, you can still get through the crowds pretty quickly if it is just you and DD. When leaving, a lot of people will be sticking around for Spectro...head into the stores on the right side as you head down main street. (Not, Casey's, but the one just past it.) They are all connected together inside, and you will be able to get through the crowds much faster. (Make sure to check the calendar when you get there...they may throw an 8 PM Spectro in there at the last minute.)

A bit of other advice...the #1 thing that new travelers to WDW do wrong is to not know what they are getting into and not make a plan....the #2 thing they do wrong is plan to do too much. I worry with your schedule you are falling into the second category. Your DD is a bit older than ours, but ours couldn't handle the pace you have. (And she is a WDW-vet, this being her 5th trip). Late nights and early mornings take their tolls after a few days. I am not telling you to change your plans, I am just suggesting that you go into it with an attitude of being flexible, and understanding that you may need to cut some things out of your plan and not be too disappointed.

Quite honestly, as veterans of many trips now - I still find that 10 days is not enough to see everything we want to see - and we don't squeeze in Discovery Cove. If you get yourself too exhausted you simply won't be having any fun. Just remind yourself that you will come back again.

And to answer your other question - yup, I think the crowds will be pretty good sized - a lot of Northerners (NY and Mass both at least) have spring break that week too...another reason we are making it a short trip and dragging it into the following week...hopefully avoiding the worst of the crowds...it won't quite be easter crowds as the Southerners are all back in school, but I expect moderate crowds that week.

Thanks for the advice. I worry about being overscheduled as well and I am going to try to focus on having fun and not on checking everything off the list. I did cancel the Wishes Dessert party. Actually I have sone a lot of scaling back! :rotfl: I had initially planned on deluxe dining and tons of TS reservations. The great thing about the DIS trip reports is that I have an idea of the things I am totally willing to miss until next trip if they won't fit in.

If they throw in that extra Spectro - we may go home earlier the night before to rest up for our first full day.

I'm hoping that Discovery Cove will be our "recharge the batteries day." I had initially planned on skipping DHS altogether to keep the must do list a little shorter. Again we'll see how we both feel.

How fun for your daughter. She'll be so happy! I think I've got myself psyched up for the crowds. Hopefully, though, they'll all be at the park I'm not at!

[skier_pete]

Thanks for the advice. I worry about being overscheduled as well and I am going to try to focus on having fun and not on checking everything off the list. I did cancel the Wishes Dessert party. Actually I have sone a lot of scaling back! :rotfl: I had initially planned on deluxe dining and tons of TS reservations.

Good move there...I don't know how people do DxDDP...we love to eat, but 2 Table Service meals a day is waayyy to much food, and waaayyy to much time eating in restaurants.

Another trap Disney does is what I call the "budget trap" you plan on a certain budget, but then you say..."well if we do this, it's only $100 more"...and then you do that again, and again, and before you know it your spending $500-$1000 more than you planned. The Wishes Dessert party is one of these things!

[JLR]

:mickeyjum
:banana: 10 More Days!!! :banana:

[smithpack]

:banana::banana::banana::cool1::cool1::cool1:

I can't believe it!!! Is it here already?? That is super close!! Doing the single digit dance for you at midnight tonight!!
:woohoo::woohoo::dance3::dance3::woohoo::woohoo::d ance3::dance3:

Looking forward to hearing about it!!!

[JLR]

:banana::banana::banana::cool1::cool1::cool1:

I can't believe it!!! Is it here already?? That is super close!! Doing the single digit dance for you at midnight tonight!!
:woohoo::woohoo::dance3::dance3::woohoo::woohoo::d ance3::dance3:

Looking forward to hearing about it!!!

Your post shows exactly how I feel. Hard to be cool with the dd! I had lunch with her at school today, and she was talking to her friends about her trip to Minneapolis!:rolleyes1 She wanted my to talk with them about it, but I put her off.

4 days 'till Disney!

:yay: :dance3: :banana: :thumbsup2: :cloud9:
:woohoo: :cheer2:
:cool: :beach: :party:
:jumping1:

[JLR]

We leave in 14 hours! We are trying to make it with just our carry - ons. Hopefully it workds. You know what ate up a lot of space? Extra sneakers! those puppies are big!

[skier_pete]

Have fun...maybe we'll see you in that Saturday morning queue for TSM.

[smithpack]

I am so excited!!!!!:dance3::dance3::dance3:
You are probably on your way!!!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
Can't wait to hear about DD's reaction and the trip!!!:cool1::cool1::cool1:

[DisneyTravelers2008]

Love your ptr...I just started my first one...it needs work...but should be fun...:goodvibes

[gallmcduck]

You'll be their :yay::yay::banana::banana::cool1::cool1: can't wait to hear about the surprise and all about the trip :woohoo:

[JLR]

I've finally started my Trip report if you are interested.

Here it is. (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=36471184#post36471184)