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Boac479
01-06-2010, 10:20 PM
We took our 6th Disney Magic cruise in late November. We stayed on the seventh floor in a verhanda room. On the Verhands, the rail had lost it finish and down to bare wood from one end of the ship to the other. Also, rust spots were evident on the outer wall. The ship was definitely showing its age. I mention this to an officer and in the Disney Fashion, they came the next day, and scrapped and sanded the rain an put a coat of new stain. Then two days later the put three coats of finish and brought it back to like new. They also repainted the white paint on the verhanda. Its now a show room and in perfect condition. Now they have the rest of ship on the seventh floor and the only upgrade to the rail was our room.. the rest looks like an old ship. We thank the Disney Magic crew for making our room look brand new.. I guess it pays to let the Officers know if you have problems.. Job well done. But I just wonder why the DVC would allow the verhanda and rail to get in this condition in the first place...

Baseball-Mom
01-06-2010, 10:41 PM
We were also on our 6th cruise in late November over Thanksgiving. I noticed the same things. The Magic is looking a little tired. At the hot tub in the adults only area there was some rust around the base of the pillars. I though the beverage station looked like it needed a little brightening up. It was always clean but just something about it needed spiffed up. The carpeting throughout the ship looked good and our bathroom still looked great. Just little things here and there needed some TLC

joksten2000
01-07-2010, 05:16 AM
It's the main reason we haven't cruised in the last 1.5 years. It makes me sad to see her in that condition. They need to do a major overhaul. It has nothing to do with DVC. The Magic would be perfect it was part of DVC. When you see how Disney keeps the WDW property up it's really shocking that the ship is in the shape it is, at the prices we pay the ship should be pristine. I don't mind paying more but expect more.

Pluto,
01-07-2010, 06:52 AM
DVC has nothing to do with the condition of the ships.

TnRobin
01-07-2010, 08:40 AM
I believe the DVC reference was a mistake. I am sure he meant DCL. :) :)

kbmo4444
01-07-2010, 09:03 AM
We took our 6th Disney Magic cruise in late November. We stayed on the seventh floor in a verhanda room. On the Verhands, the rail had lost it finish and down to bare wood from one end of the ship to the other. Also, rust spots were evident on the outer wall. The ship was definitely showing its age. I mention this to an officer and in the Disney Fashion, they came the next day, and scrapped and sanded the rain an put a coat of new stain. Then two days later the put three coats of finish and brought it back to like new. They also repainted the white paint on the verhanda. Its now a show room and in perfect condition. Now they have the rest of ship on the seventh floor and the only upgrade to the rail was our room.. the rest looks like an old ship. We thank the Disney Magic crew for making our room look brand new.. I guess it pays to let the Officers know if you have problems.. Job well done. But I just wonder why the DVC would allow the verhanda and rail to get in this condition in the first place...

We are cruising on the Magic in Feb 2010 on deck 7. Would you mind sharing what stateroom you had. It would nice to have the room you just had. Thanks

TestTrackBoy
01-07-2010, 09:59 AM
We took our 6th Disney Magic cruise in late November. We stayed on the seventh floor in a verhanda room. On the Verhands, the rail had lost it finish and down to bare wood from one end of the ship to the other. Also, rust spots were evident on the outer wall. The ship was definitely showing its age. I mention this to an officer and in the Disney Fashion, they came the next day, and scrapped and sanded the rain an put a coat of new stain. Then two days later the put three coats of finish and brought it back to like new. They also repainted the white paint on the verhanda. Its now a show room and in perfect condition. Now they have the rest of ship on the seventh floor and the only upgrade to the rail was our room.. the rest looks like an old ship. We thank the Disney Magic crew for making our room look brand new.. I guess it pays to let the Officers know if you have problems.. Job well done. But I just wonder why the DVC would allow the verhanda and rail to get in this condition in the first place...

Yes, it is sad to see the Magic in that condition but you have to take a few things into consideration. The ship is constantly at sea with salt water and air battering the outside of the ship all the time. Finishes on the wood become dull and start to peal when out in these conditions. The ship is constantly going back and fourth moving thousands of passengers each week. Without a dry dock, they only have a limited time in port to paint the outside to take care of rust issues. When I was on the Magic in October they were painting the outside and verandas in Port Canaveral, St. Thomas, and Castaway Cay. In the middle of a sea day they were refinishing railings on the 10th deck and wood accents on the 9th deck. It is a never ending job for the maintenance crew to keep the ship painted and well cleaned.

kcashner
01-07-2010, 10:07 AM
We've seen the Magic in MANY states of perfection and needing a little TLC since the inaugural sailing. You can really tell the difference after a dry dock or after a "special" situation where the crew spends a lot of time cleaning "detail" places.

We've seen the rust on balconies, at bottoms of poles, etc....dirt in bathroom corners, etc. (the kind my mother would have made me clean with a toothbrush!) I really believe that most of this cannot be helped, only maintained. They are constantly repainting and refinishing the ship--I'm glad your room was handled promptly and I'm sure they'll get to the rest as time allows.

My suggestion--if there's a problem, report it. They will deal with it promptly!

wcw57
01-07-2010, 05:09 PM
When is Magic's Dry Dock?

Im_A_Princess
01-07-2010, 05:18 PM
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2068966

"Current Dry Dock for the Wonder - October 2 - 17, 2009
Next Dry Dock for the Magic - October 3 - 15, 2010
Next probable Dry Dock for the Wonder - September 6 - 19, 2011 based on no cruises scheduled at this time. Ship would be in Vancouver.
Begining with the Wonder's 2009 drydock work will be done in Freeport, Bahamas and not in Norfolk, VA."

The Magic was just in dry dock Sept. 2008. I think it went in after the EB Panama Canal cruise we were on.

oklamomof4boys
01-07-2010, 05:52 PM
They were painting parts of the Magic when we were on the NYE cruise.

kcashner
01-07-2010, 06:47 PM
They were painting parts of the Magic when we were on the NYE cruise.

They are ALWAYS painting parts of both ships...it's an unending task to keep up with what the salt water does to them. They aren't the best looking ships in the various ports accidentally.

flexsmom
01-07-2010, 06:53 PM
We were on the NYE cruise. 6 in our party were repeat cruisers, and 8 were first-timers, including one who had been on several Navy ships. The adults all raved about the condition of the ship - they recognized that there was constantly painting going on, but it was kind of funny when one of the RC ships came in and the comments were "look at all that rust you can see at the water line". So, I'm not disputing what anyone is saying here, but the impression of the condition of the ship definitely varies!

Tony94
01-07-2010, 07:52 PM
I was on the magic a week before a drydock and felt that it was in great shape. I won't let a little bit of rust on my verandah make my cruise beter or worse. I don't think you can be on a ship and not see any rust.:goodvibes

allears
01-07-2010, 09:46 PM
We've sailed on the Magic almost every year since 2002, before after and long times between dry dock. We have always been impressed with the condition of the ship! Like a previous poster said the ship in in constant use with no down time. We've always seen work being done, painting, sanding, varnishing. And you can really see the attention they put into maintaining the ship when you're parked next to some others. My guess is that if the entire deck's rails were "bare" they had been sanded and were going to be re-done.

We'll be back on the ship in a few weeks, and I expect we'll find her just as ship shape as always.

Husurdady
01-07-2010, 10:10 PM
That's why we are waiting for 2011 and the DREAM.

dan and scott
01-07-2010, 10:34 PM
We were on the Wonder in early December and the ---Brand New--- not even a month old Carnival Dream ------had RUST on her hull.
So yes -the Disney ships are in a constant never ending maintenance cycle.
They look pretty good when you put them up against most of the low end cruise brands.
Actually the Disney ships consistentley get high rankings from Conde Naste Traveller Gold List for design,quality, and services offered.
Higher than Cunard,Holland America --both of which are Carnival.

Scott

Juney
01-07-2010, 10:47 PM
We cruised in December and there wasn't a day that went by that I didn't see a crew painting. At every port there were people hanging off of the ship on tethers and painting the exterior. My husband I both commented on the great up-keep. Maybe it's a 1/2 empty-1/2 full thing.

epcotrulz
01-08-2010, 12:06 AM
You can always find a spot of rust here or there, but overall I too feel the ships are kept in tip top shape. Our last cruise on the Magic (April '09) I felt like the sculpted rugs were "plush" under my feet, which I was impressed by . . . and yes there was some rust spots on our balcony, but I understand what the salt water/air does to a ship . . . our bathrooms sparkled like new and the beds couldn't have been more comfortable! Can't wait to get back for our inagural (sp?) Baltic!

been2marceline
01-08-2010, 12:20 AM
That's why we are waiting for 2011 and the DREAM.

...and after 2 years of service, the Dream will be rusting and have peeling finishes, and will start going into dry dock cycles as well....

LadyTrampScamp&Angel
01-08-2010, 09:33 AM
Wow, I was on the Magic about three weeks ago and didn't notice anything like the OP mentioned. I'll have to check my pictures but she looked good to me.

Eeyore'sthebest
01-08-2010, 09:57 AM
We were on the Magic the week after Thanksgiving. Just so everyone can rest easy, all verdandah hand railings on Deck 7 received a thorough varnishing during the cruise. DH ran into the guy doing the railings for our cabin.

Regular maintenance needs to be done but let's be honest folks, we expect DCL to turn that ship around in hours. There is not a lot for regular maintenance and salt air is the worst for any sort of paint and varnish type finishes - just ask anyone that has a beach house!!!

E&BMom
01-08-2010, 10:00 AM
We were on the NYE cruise too (our 6th) and thought the Magic looked great. We did see the crew varnishing a railing 2 doors down from us (deck 7) one day at port. Our railing was great. We also saw people painting all the time. I wish I was there now..it is sooooooooooo COLD here!!:goodvibes

Boac479
01-08-2010, 12:02 PM
We've sailed on the Magic almost every year since 2002, before after and long times between dry dock. We have always been impressed with the condition of the ship! Like a previous poster said the ship in in constant use with no down time. We've always seen work being done, painting, sanding, varnishing. And you can really see the attention they put into maintaining the ship when you're parked next to some others. My guess is that if the entire deck's rails were "bare" they had been sanded and were going to be re-done.

We'll be back on the ship in a few weeks, and I expect we'll find her just as ship shape as always.... No the rails were not sanded .. and were in need of complete updating.. they should never have been in this condition... and in six Magic Cruises.. rust in the Verhanda's was unheard of.. this ship needs better attention.. more painters and repairmen. One thought, perhaps as this ship ages, the maintenance crew is being spread to do too many jobs that take them away from painting and rail maintenance. We thought there were fewer maintenance workers on the ship...

allears
01-08-2010, 12:53 PM
... No the rails were not sanded .. and were in need of complete updating.. they should never have been in this condition... and in six Magic Cruises.. rust in the Verhanda's was unheard of.. this ship needs better attention.. more painters and repairmen. One thought, perhaps as this ship ages, the maintenance crew is being spread to do too many jobs that take them away from painting and rail maintenance. We thought there were fewer maintenance workers on the ship...

I guess we all have different perceptions and we'll see for ourselves in a few weeks. But I expect her to look as magical as always.

MexiFinn
01-08-2010, 01:15 PM
Glad it was taken care of for you quickly.

For me? That would be a minor issue. I look forward to the magic of the experience and the fun of family and friends. A little rust and wear and tear doesn't bother me. On the past few cruise, I've always seen people working on cleaning the ship so it seems like they are doing what they can.

Looking forward to my trip next month!

Boac479
01-08-2010, 01:32 PM
I guess we all have different perceptions and we'll see for ourselves in a few weeks. But I expect her to look as magical as always.

Yes, your Magic Cruise will be great and what you are expecting. I was thrilled that DCL listened to my comments and immediately reacted. It just seemed that they were behing the 8 ball on this...

We all want the Magic to be in great condition. We were on the first Panama West bound cruise and believe me, it was just about perfect... and ready for West Coasters to come aboard.

Hope you come back from your cruise and report that all is now in order.. We plan to be back on for a Baltic cruise this summer. We have had 8 disney cruises... and love it...The staff are wonderful and very very attentative. Have fun...

Boac479
01-11-2010, 09:51 AM
We are cruising on the Magic in Feb 2010 on deck 7. Would you mind sharing what stateroom you had. It would nice to have the room you just had. Thanks

Room 7074

lovethedream
01-11-2010, 11:53 AM
We have been on the Wonder twice and never had any issues, however, it did look like they were constantly painting the ship, from what we could see.

In 2009, we sailed on the RCCL Freedom of the Seas. It was launched in 2006 and they already had rust issues on that ship. While we were sitting in chairs by some railings on the outside of the ship, we watched as they (actually one guy) chipped away at the rust and painted anew.

It is our personal opinion, and maybe we caught the wonder fresh outta dry dock and the Freedom getting ready to go into dry dock, but overall, the older Wonder appeared to be in better shape than the much newer Freedom.

It is a constant problem on any seagoing vessel.