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Bouncy
07-23-2002, 03:51 PM
For those of you still waiting your t-shirt was to be sent to you by


Kinlaw6450 who was to send to Poohbears5
Piglet who was to send to Beauty
LisaL who was to send to GoofyS
HoneyPooh who was to send to Harleychic
LisaL in MI who was to send to Goofys.


If any of the above want to contact their exchangee with a reason for not sending anything then please feel free.If you don't PM then I will refuse to include you in any further exchages I do.

6_Time_Momma
07-23-2002, 03:59 PM
Yipes, I would certainly hope every effort was made to contact these people first and await an answer to find out the problem before this post was made to shame them!(which I disagree with)

binny
07-23-2002, 03:59 PM
In her defense Helopoh has been out of town for almost a month. She was originally supposed to be gone only a week and has had some circumstances come up that have delayed her return I hope Tartan Tigger understand. I know she will feel bad about it.
Last I heard she was to return this week. Im sure she will check in as soon as she is able.
Binny

Boo'sMom
07-23-2002, 04:04 PM
Wow....I too certainly hope some sort of contact was made to these people before this post.....wouldn't you feel awful if some thing horrible had happened, and they just couldn't get in touch with us???
JMHO..not looking for flames....trying to see the good in everyone....

SuiteDisney
07-23-2002, 04:12 PM
The people in the t-shirt exchange didn't know who was sending them a t-shirt, so there's no way we could contact them and Bouncy only posted this after repeatedly asking the exchangers to get in contact with their exchangees.

I just heard that my t-shirt is on the way, but I still don't know who is sending it, only that it's coming.

I think that most of the people who didn't receive t-shirts are not upset as much about the t-shirt as they are from not hearing a word from their exchanger and feeling forgotten. :( I think that anyone would be understanding if told there was a problem, it's the being ignored part that hurts.

December99
07-23-2002, 04:15 PM
Same thing happened with the ornament exchange - some of the people also had lost their jobs at the time...so that was understandable but I had to do ALOT of hunting down people...it's very time consuming.

Deb in IA
07-23-2002, 04:16 PM
This is one of the reasons I don't participate in these exchanges . . . the intentions are often good, but sometimes things just don't work out, and feelings get hurt . . .

Beauty
07-23-2002, 04:22 PM
I agree that real life can get in the way. I pmed and publicly apologized to my exchangee about the delay. We had 2 deaths and a sick son so the exchange was put on hold for a few weeks. I will still participate in others though because they are so much fun ! I can't wait to shop for my Yankee Candle person this weekend and I'm already looking very very forward to the ornament exchange! I think everyone that signs up for these has good intentions but life can interfere with anything now days. And I have seen Bouncy post many many posts asking for the two people to get in contact with each other. I'm not worried about whether I get a t-shirt or not but an I'm sorry but I just forgot or I'm sorry but I can't afford it or can't find one...anything would be nice.

caitycaity
07-23-2002, 04:24 PM
yikes! :eek: not sure what i think about "public" shaming.

Bouncy
07-23-2002, 04:31 PM
TO 6_Time Momma and Boos Mom
I have spent a lot of time organising thsi exchange and had a lot of late nights pairing people up not only in America but other parts of the world.I have posted numerous requests for exchangees to contact the person they are sending to,to let them know whats happening.Apparently this is not the only exchange this has happened in and too many people are recieving but not sending.I see the good in all people too but when people become selfish like this I get angry.It takes 2 minutes to send a PM,and give an explanation.Surely this is not too much too ask.

The reason I have resorted to this is because I am getting PMs from people who have not recieved but have sent out.They are naturally upset,wouldn't you be?These exchanges aren't cheap especailly when you have to post from overseas,like myself and Tartan Tigger do.

Tartan Tigger has also been on holiday but she managed to send out her t-shirt to California before she left.

I kinow people have hard times and things do happen but like I said before it takes 2 minutes to PM and good manners cost nothing.

binny
07-23-2002, 04:43 PM
Bouncy, Helopoh isnt on vacation. What started out that way is no longer. Im sorry but she deserves a break right now not be humiliated. I know you put a lot of work into this but things DO come up. She has not even logged in since June 30th that I know of.

Im not trying to stir up any feathers and have no opinion on anything else with this. I just know what my dear friend is going through and I dont want to see her hurt anymore than she allready is.
Thank you for understanding.

Hollymom1229
07-23-2002, 05:30 PM
Bouncy, I am deeply hurt that you posted my name here. I sent TerriP her shirt and even recieved an e-mail from her that she had gotten the t-shirt and loved it. I have received no PM's from you on this topic and am wondering why I was publicly shamed?

babar
07-23-2002, 05:37 PM
Sorry, but I don't agree with publicly naming these people. Something could have happened to them.

This should have either been handled in private, or sadly, just chalk it up to people not caring. (if that was the case)

sorry, but I just don't agree with this.

Hollymom1229
07-23-2002, 05:48 PM
Furthermore, I even searched for a thread where Terri said she'd received her t-shirt from me and I've included the link below. Please double check your facts in the future before you make such a hurtful post.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=235576

A kid at heart
07-23-2002, 05:51 PM
Is Helopooh on the list? I didn't see her name!

Kinlaw6450 who was to send to Poohbears5
Piglet who was to send to Beauty
LisaL who was to send to GoofyS
HoneyPooh who was to send to Harleychic
LisaL in MI who was to send to Goofys.

Maybe this wasn't the way to go, but many posts were made regarding the missing shirts and nothing came from it, so it was brought to this.

Bouncy
07-23-2002, 05:55 PM
Hollymom I tried to PM you but your mail box is full.there was no name mentioned on TerriPs post and since there was two of us going through the list I apologise for the mistake.

At least your mail box is full of non-complaints.

Hollymom1229
07-23-2002, 05:57 PM
Apology accepted, I received your PM and I thank you for the clarification.

TerriP
07-23-2002, 06:14 PM
Hollymom1229 DID send me a GREAT Virginia t-shirt. My post stated that I'd received my shirt from a great new friend and am upset for those that have not received their shirts. I offered to send out another shirt to anyone who sent one out but didn't get one back.

I'm sorry if someone read/interpreted by post incorrectly...Hollymom1229 sent me an awesome shirt that I have thanked her for both publicly and privately...she done good!!:p

Tartan Tigger
07-24-2002, 02:51 AM
In defence of Bouncy I know how long she spent organising this exchange and how many pm's she has received from people wondering why they haven't received anything. I badgered her myself. Now I know helopoh has problems I am more understanding.
I appreciate how Bouncy is feeling about all this. At the end of last year I did the Flat Stanley project with the children I work with. 20 people agreed to take part and the children excitedly sent them out. Only 9 were returned:( It was very difficult trying to explain to 6 year olds how there Stanley never returned:( I never heard anything from the people who didn't return them.
Really makes you think twice about taking part in these things.

KimRaye
07-24-2002, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by Tartan Tigger
At the end of last year I did the Flat Stanley project with the children I work with. 20 people agreed to take part and the children excitedly sent them out. Only 9 were returned:( It was very difficult trying to explain to 6 year olds how there Stanley never returned:( I never heard anything from the people who didn't return them.

[I, personally have done 2 FS's and, although the little guy probably returned with nothing substantial, I did make a diary of sorts and, I sent them both back!! It's a commitment! I'm sorry so many of your kids were disappointed!!]


Really makes you think twice about taking part in these things. Yes, and no. I think the organizers have the biggest headaches and work to do but, I'm glad that those that truly participate, actually come through with what they signed on for!

I hope that these recent 'trends' of non-compliance STOP! ASAP! We're coming up to some of the greatest exchanges (even with the headaches) but, SO MANY OF US Enjoy Them! I wish it was 100% guaranteed but, it isn't.

My Thanks to ALL the Organizers and coordinators of the various exchanges ~ It's NOT a Thankless job (WE DO CARE) but, it does carry some HARD WORK!

Bouncy
07-24-2002, 07:43 AM
Thanks KimRaye for letting all involved in these exchanges know that we are appreciated.I am very grateful to all those who took part and readily sent these things out.My DD and I took part and I have a parcel from my DD to send out.It was a last minute exchange.I have constantly in touch with the person that she is exchanging ( it was a straight exchange) and the recipient has been very understanding and patient.

lvs_eeyore
07-24-2002, 07:51 PM
I have to say I totally disagree with how this was done. There was no attempt made to PM the people who's names were posted here. If they have not signed in they would NOT have seen posts asking them to contact their person nor would they have known their person didnt get what they sent. Shaming people before someone speaks to them directly is wrong IMHO.

I spoke with Kinlaw6450 tonight. I made the effort to contact her. She is a friend of mine. I had NO other information to contact her besides what is in her profile; information ANYONE could have accessed had they tried. I managed to get ahold of her. She said her package WAS sent out on June 23rd by Priority Mail. If her person didnt get it, it was through no fault of hers yet she was made to look very bad here. She is upset about it understandably. I would be also and I am upset for her. She has been both out of the country and away from home on conferences but made SURE her exchange went out before she left.... and before today had not had a chance to sign on at all. She wouldnt have seen the messages that asked for people to contact their exchangees nor would she have seen that her person didnt get the package she sent out. She only signed in today because she got an IM from me asking her to contact me and she only signed in to send me a PM to ask what was up. She didnt have time to read the boards. She would have had no reason to check up on the Tshirt exchange because she DID send out her package.

Please before someone goes around shaming other people make sure the facts are known.

After all of this I dont think either of us will be participating in another exchange.

Poohbears5, Kinlaw6450 feels badly that you didnt get your shirt but she did send it out on June 23rd by Priority mail.

poohbears5
07-24-2002, 08:20 PM
lvs_eeyore I am glad to hear that kinlaw sent out her exchange its a shame it got lost .

Jennyfyar
07-24-2002, 10:32 PM
I did not participate in this exchange because I was one of the ones who got burned in the ornament exchange. My exchangee (who I will not name here) is one of the same ones listed on this thread as not fulfilling their end of the exchange again. I did not receive a PM or email explaining their situation, but with some people, there's always something.

I'm sorry if some of those named on this thread were 'wrongfully accused.' I feel bad that your names were listed when you did send out your tee-shirt. But, I can fully understand and appreciate the anger and frustration that Bouncy is feeling.

Bouncy
07-25-2002, 07:56 AM
Thank-you Jennyfyar,
As I have said before it only takes a minute to send a pm and ity is not difficult.If a package was sent out as mine was 8 weeks ago and not been recieved wouldn't you ask your exchangee why they hadn't posted anything,a word of thanks or whatever?I did to my exchangee,I asked if she had recieved anything,it spoilt the surprise for her but I spent a lot of money on my exchangee and the postage isn't cheap either,so I wanted to know.Surely if you had sent out something you'd be the same?

As for pming people first before naming.surely if the person wasn't on the boards to read the posts then why send a PM she obviously wouldn't have seen that either then.There was warnings put on the boards for all to see,with a lot of disappointed people agreeing with me.

If some people do not want to take part in any more exchanges then thats fine.It was a post that upset you,think how the people who got stung ( not for the first time either) feel.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and me to mine.I will always do as I say whether people like me for it or not.

robinb
07-26-2002, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Bouncy
As for pming people first before naming.surely if the person wasn't on the boards to read the posts then why send a PM she obviously wouldn't have seen that either then.There was warnings put on the boards for all to see,with a lot of disappointed people agreeing with me.


I want to thank you for all the hard work you did for this exchange. Please don't feel bad about what you posted. I support you 100%. Until recently I was in the same boat as the other folks who did not receive their t-shirts. My partner had a great explaination ... surgury! Ouch! I wish I had known :(. I would have certainly been more patient.

Pam
07-27-2002, 08:31 PM
Well - I'm a happy camper now!! My t-shirt, plus a whole bunch of goodies, arrived from Talking Hands yesterday!
WooHoo!!!!!!!!!:p
Pam