I need some honest help with finding a job now...

[SandrA9810]

Hopefully this topic won't turn out like the last one I made...

I've been off and on about looking for a job since I got canned from Disney (09/08). I usually let home life get in the way, and thought it to be more important than the extra income.
My previous employment looks like crap, truthfully. And always left that as an excuse for why I never got a call back. (would you hire some one with a shotty previous employment or some one that got laid off because of cut backs??)
During one interview, I noticed they had a print out of the score on my "test"... you know that hundred question test that asks the same question in five different ways, just to see if you're paying attention. Well I seemed to have good scores on that, so I don't think that's a problem.

How far back should I list my previous jobs?? I started working when I was 14 for my aunt, and left the job about 7-8 years later).
Is it a problem if I don't know the phone numbers of these places??
I know that almost every job, my particular managers have left the company or moved to other stores. Plus every where was only on first name basis, so I don't even know half of the last names.
My reasons for leaving weren't great. Usually because I couldn't get along with management. And I don't even know if I'm rehirable at Disney (which is what I would like, but not counting on it).
I worked for a temp agency for like 6 months before moving up here... but I honestly can't even remember the name of the company. The funny part, my aunt is the one that told me to use them and she can't even think of the name. I don't think a temp agency would be a good choice at the moment, since I don't know my limits of using the truck. And the last time, I had gigs that were 15-20 miles away.

I'm very good at being negative about all this... so I'll try to limit my responses. (I'm good at turning the tables to make it seem like I'm not the one in the wrong, even though it might be true).

My minimum goal is about 15-20hrs a week. Which should give me just enough for rent and food. Full time would be fine too, I just figure part time might be easier to get.
I've applied for just about any entry level job near by that I can think of in the past... so I'm guessing it's down to my app. and I don't want to paper the town with a horrible looking app, because it usually means that I have to wait 3-6months to reapply.

[ConcKahuna]

Try Starwood Resorts (the folks who run the Swan and Dolphin).

Orange County is also looking for police officers and corrections officers. The pay is decent and they normally pay for your training.

[DVC~OKW~96]

I know you don't seem to want to do temp work, but really it can be a good way to get a spotty work record buried under one that shows consistency and responsibility. ::yes::

What sort of work are you interested in? Didn't you work as a photographer for WDW (or am I getting that confused with someone else)?

Could you do free lance? Or could you apply at local photographers?

Care staff are in short supply. Good care staff. Florida does not require that an ALF hire CNAs, so you could apply at any number of ALFs who are always looking for good help. There is more to do at ALFs than provide direct care to elders.

Hope that helps a bit? :)

[hematite153]

My job experience is quite different, but, my thoughts are:

- I never list names of people on my resume, only positions that I've held and I certainly never list phone numbers.

- I usually tailor my resume to each job (i.e. make a 3 page version that includes EVERYTHING and then cut it down to one page in a different fashion for each job you're applying for)

- Think about skills that you have and include a section on your resume that is titled "Special Skills" and list things there that would be useful for the job you're applying for. (Believe it or not, computer skills, 2nd language skills, etc. are still things that can get you a job.)

- You can also add a brief paragraph about "philosophy of service" or something similar if you have something to say that might address what they are looking for in an employee.

- I probably wouldn't include jobs that you had for a very short time, or jobs where you were fired and they will be able to call and find that out.

- I also tend not to be precise about my employment dates unless specifically asked. In other words, I'd say "XXX Call Center 2007" rather than exact months.

- If you've had a lot of jobs and you're trying to figure out how to organize them you can clump them together. (By general employer if you've had multiple jobs for the same employer, OR, by job type if you've done similar jobs for multiple employees.)

- Come up with 3 (or so) references that are people you know from different places and have a sheet prepared with their contact info in case you are asked for it. If you can't come up with anyone that you've worked with who would be willing to be a reference, think about other venues. Have you ever volunteered? (If not, is there a volunteer job that you could get and use as a jumping off point? It would take awhile, but, if you take a volunteer position seriously -- prioritize it over the rest of your life -- then, it can turn into a good reference.) Are you a member of a faith community? Would your Aunt be a reference? Etc.

- Plan to be a model employee for whatever you do find so that you'll be able to use it as a reference in the future. That way, even if you don't get what you want now you'll be able to use whatever it is as a jumping point to something else in a year or two.

- Is there anything that you'd really LIKE to do? If so, have you considered going to school part-time to obtain qualifications? Even if it will take a long time to get the qualifications the fact that you're working on it may open more job opportunities once you're part of the way through.

- Last, but, likely most important, whenever possible prepare an application at home and have it read/edited by someone with strong language skills. Spelling or grammar errors can have a serious impact on hiring decisions even if they are the sort of errors that are used colloquially.

Good luck!

[hematite153]

Orange County is also looking for police officers and corrections officers. The pay is decent and they normally pay for your training.

This line right here was a shocking reminder of why I prefer living in Canada.

If you want to be a Police Officer here you have to apply to a Police Foundations college course (they have a low acceptance rate), complete it and then you still aren't guaranteed a job. Plus, once you do get a job, you'll have to complete further certification in order to carry a gun. It scares me to think that someone without prior training can apply to be a police officer and get trained once hired.

That said, if you're looking for a job and they're looking for officers, it sounds like a good fit -- just be careful, okay?

[hematite153]

I know you don't seem to want to do temp work, but really it can be a good way to get a spotty work record buried under one that shows consistency and responsibility. ::yes::


Can you ride a bicycle? I know that it's more common to drive in FL, but, I've had friends who used a bike as their means of transit when building up experience. It's a much cheaper way to end up with a 15 mile temp availability radius.

[SandrA9810]

Government work is out of the question...

I did do photopass at Disney, and was considered to be a professional photographer. But I don't own my own stuff, nor have I ever had enough money to own a good set up. Besides lots of Disney pics, I don't really have a portfollio of the kind of photos that I did take. I always got great reviews on my photos from managment, but I can't use those photos.

What an ALF??

Before I start applying... I really need to figure out how to make my application, specifically my previous employment look better than what it does on paper. Not that I haven't enjoyed most the places that I have worked at, but I usually left for stupid reasons.
I'll give a run down...
Reliatex - first job, hired by my aunt (which family doesnt always look so good). It was the one job that I left on good terms, I couldn't take the position full time like they needed and I was living 20-30 miles away. Worked there for 7 years.
gamestop - 11 months - DM changed, he then changed our store managment. And after telling him Gamestop isn't some place I want to stay at for a long time, my name was off the schedule the next week. They also kept screwing Kari over and not giving her the 3rd key position (even though the first excuse was because we were together, but wouldn't even after I was gone).
2 month gap
party city - 7 months - hired for halloween help. Kept on after the holidays, but things started changing and I wasn't fitting in. I was also having a hard time getting to work on time because of the bus.
at the same time I worked at an EB store for just Christmas... like 5 weeks.
few month gap
Started working at the temp agency. I did like 5 or so jobs for them, one lasting like a month or so for a special project. I stopped getting calls, and I stopped calling. I was tired of driving all over ft lauderdale for the possibility of a one day job.
few month gap - we moved to Orlando
Home Depot - 90 days - I liked most of what I did, but I just could not get along with my department head. And I had a hard time keeping up with what they wanted me to do, because they never really showed me what to do (like pack down and stock stuff) so I stuck to cleaning up and helping customers.
one month gap
Got my job at Disney with photopass - Loved it until about the last 6 months there. I started having issues with the area manager at DAK, so I transfered to MK... well she followed to MK because of a shift in the uppers. (the original MK area manager was the one that actually hired me and I got along with her just fine). But with so many things changing, that I didn't really like. I stopped caring... and soon 3 poor judgment reprimands followed. (I've kept in touch with a few co-workers since, and I really would be hating my job if I was still there).

So 4 jobs I left because I couldn't get along with managment and I wasn't really fitting in and didn't care enough to change to make it work out.

[DVC~OKW~96]

An ALF is an Assisted Living Facility.

Not to sound too gruff, but it seems like you don't care much for managers? Would you be better suited then to self employment?

Can you do lawn or pool work? Could you run a small daycare, or do child care in your home? (Six or fewer children).

Do you have any subjects that you feel a particular interest in or that you feel you are particularly strong in? Could you tutor in those subjects?

[Mathfailure]

The hardest part sounds like you will need to change your reactions to situations that are not to your liking. It is work, and usually work has aspects that we do not enjoy, or people we do not get along with, and yet it pays the bills so we carry on.

Now to get a job, I second the idea of a temp. agency. I know in Ohio that seems to be the way new hires are finding jobs, I don't know about Fl.

Are there agencies that help with resume writing that you could use, some nonprofit places will help with many areas of getting a job.

On my practical side:
How do you dress when going for an interview, or even pick up the application? First impressions are important even if we wish they weren't.

Do you shake hands when meeting? Look the interviewer in the eye when speaking, thank them for the chance to speak with them?

I know this all sounds random, but to get a job you need to present yourself as someone others want to have around.

I wish you the best.

[SandrA9810]

I don't really have stong skills in any one thing. I'm just good at learning as I go. Photopass really was a learning experience... I barely knew anything more than to push the big button on top. Now you can hand me any camera and I can make any picture look good. I still find myself when I'm visiting the parks telling people how to make their pictures turn out.

I did take some college... mostly Kari wanted some one to go to class with. It was like 5 or 6 classes and I only passed 3. But how do you count a class about Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings a real class? It was more like a book club.... fun none the less. It was over 2 semester.

Going back to school is out of the question... I really suck at classroom setting. I started hating school like in 5 grade. And I probably can't tell you a single thing that I learned there.
My computer skills come from my own learning. And it must be decent because my aunt would constantly call on me to figure out how to do things. I'm not very fimilar with new programs (I learned using windows 98)... I usually just figure it out as I go if I'm on a newer system.
I don't know any second languages. I know my ABCs in sign language but that's about it.

And I'm not talking about making a resume... more about the basic application you pick up at the local retail store. Well most of them now require online applications. And mostly they do want at least the month and year of previous employment. Sometimes the address, but usually just city/state. They always ask for a phone number, and a manager's name (which is where I wind up with the deer in the headlight look...). Of course the last thing they ask for is why did you leave. And with online apps, you usually only have a few options to choose from (quit, terminated, laid off).

Is it wrong to leave off phone number/manager's name??
I'd really just prefer an entry level job... cashier (even though i'm really slow at it), sales floor, bagger at Publix...

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

If we are talking about applications for part time, entry level work then just list "Homemaker" under work experience and leave it at that. Better to not list any experience at all than to list a bunch of drama.

Jobs for 15-20 hours a week typically do not require a resume. You just fill out the application from the store.

I will say without a verifiable work history you will probably need at least 3 strong personal references.

I used to be in retail management. I reviewed applications and interviewed candidates, but that was 17 years ago. I have no idea how they do things now, but back then we didn't hire people if any of their former employers said they were ineligible for rehire.

It is important that if you decide to list previous employment, you list complete information. Google the addresses and phone numbers if you don't remember. Store managers and district managers are really only allowed to verify that you worked there and the dates of your employment. If the managers you worked for aren't there anymore then the person verifying your employment will probably be referred to corporate HR. It is EXTREMELY unlikely that any former supervisor would actually open themselves up to a lawsuit by saying anything specific about your work habits.

[SandrA9810]

Self employment would be great... but I don't have any references for babysitting to even start off on. I live in the middle of tons of apartments, so very few homes nearby for yard work (which besides working in the Garden Department at HD... I really don't know anything about yard care, never had to do that as a kid.)

Most apps are filled out online now, so you don't even get a first impression until they call you. But when I do go looking for apps, I try to wear slacks and at least a collared shirt. Not over the top nice like for an interview, but not just street clothes.

[SandrA9810]

Does listing nothing at all at 25yrs old really look better than listing jobs?? Should I list Disney?? That lasted for 2.5 years. I recently talked to my former manager and he said he would look into my status for me. I just have to find his email through the company directory. Casting said that the only way to find out through them was to get an interview (which back then, you just walked in and got an interview... now you fill out an app online and wait for a call).

[DOPEYLUVER]

Do an internet search of different types of resumes. I definitely don't think your background is suited to a traditional dates and position type of resume. Perhaps something is geared toward responsibilites such as retail, customer, service, photography, whatever...

Are you saying not government because you have legal issues that don't allow you to work for the government or do you just not necessarily like the government and won't work there? I work for a Community Action Agency. We have received ARRA/Stimulus money from the feds which have allowed us to hire and/or maintain positions that may have otherwise been lost. There is a lot of ARRA money to hire people thereby stimulating the economy.

If there is someplace or places nearby that appeal to you, stop in regularly. Let them know that you really want to work there and remind them occassionally by showing your face.

As someone else said, be careful with your resume. You want to make sure there are no typos, spelling or grammar issues. The competition for jobs is stiff and you don't want to give anyone a reason to put your resume in the "not" pile.

Good Luck

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

The online thing is new territory for me. I am old. :rolleyes1

I would call places that you have applied and ask for an interview. Be assertive. Find out how many positions they have open and when they hope to make a decision, etc. I know when I was in retail we ALWAYS accepted applications but we didn't always have openings. We would file those apps and it would be months before we called those folks for interviews.

My teenage sister works in a nursing home serving meals and bussing tables. She had NO experience - that is her first job. My mom was a stay-at-home mom for 40 years. No college, no job skills. Then she woke up one day and was a widow without a penny to her name. She now works in a school cafeteria. Previous experience is great, but people with no experience do still manage to find jobs.

[NHdisneylover]

It does sound like you need to start at a very base level job--and stick with it (no matter how much you dislike your boss or co-worker) for a nice long time (at least a year) so that you can start to build a history and move into more.

For now, at least list the longer "permanent" gigs on the application (Disney, for your aunt. . .). I think anything over 6 months is probably good. At your age I think some shorter jobs is okay--many young people had jobs that were short term for one semester or whatnot. However, now you are getting older and it is not going to continue to fly so I would make sure it no longer happens. If you are asked in an interview why you left (jobs you quit) just say something along the lines of for family obligations which are no longer relevant.

One thing that will really help get you a call in the first place for entry level jobs is to have compltely open availability. Be willing to work nights or weekends or ANY shift and willingness to change around the shift as needed week by week will really make you more valuable.

Gas stations and convience stores often have more jobs available (and more willingness to work with a spoty record) than fast food or grocery stores--so you may want to give those place a try. Also look into working in housekeeping at local hotels, offices, etc.

[TagsMissy]

This line right here was a shocking reminder of why I prefer living in Canada.

If you want to be a Police Officer here you have to apply to a Police Foundations college course (they have a low acceptance rate), complete it and then you still aren't guaranteed a job. Plus, once you do get a job, you'll have to complete further certification in order to carry a gun. It scares me to think that someone without prior training can apply to be a police officer and get trained once hired.

That said, if you're looking for a job and they're looking for officers, it sounds like a good fit -- just be careful, okay?

Really? Strange that never occurred with my officers in my family -- the training has always been provided by the force hired by.

[wdwfan16]

Hopefully this topic won't turn out like the last one I made...

I've been off and on about looking for a job since I got canned from Disney (09/08). I usually let home life get in the way, and thought it to be more important than the extra income.
My previous employment looks like crap, truthfully. And always left that as an excuse for why I never got a call back. (would you hire some one with a shotty previous employment or some one that got laid off because of cut backs??)
During one interview, I noticed they had a print out of the score on my "test"... you know that hundred question test that asks the same question in five different ways, just to see if you're paying attention. Well I seemed to have good scores on that, so I don't think that's a problem.

How far back should I list my previous jobs?? I started working when I was 14 for my aunt, and left the job about 7-8 years later).
Is it a problem if I don't know the phone numbers of these places??
I know that almost every job, my particular managers have left the company or moved to other stores. Plus every where was only on first name basis, so I don't even know half of the last names.
My reasons for leaving weren't great. Usually because I couldn't get along with management. And I don't even know if I'm rehirable at Disney (which is what I would like, but not counting on it).
I worked for a temp agency for like 6 months before moving up here... but I honestly can't even remember the name of the company. The funny part, my aunt is the one that told me to use them and she can't even think of the name. I don't think a temp agency would be a good choice at the moment, since I don't know my limits of using the truck. And the last time, I had gigs that were 15-20 miles away.

I'm very good at being negative about all this... so I'll try to limit my responses. (I'm good at turning the tables to make it seem like I'm not the one in the wrong, even though it might be true).

My minimum goal is about 15-20hrs a week. Which should give me just enough for rent and food. Full time would be fine too, I just figure part time might be easier to get.
I've applied for just about any entry level job near by that I can think of in the past... so I'm guessing it's down to my app. and I don't want to paper the town with a horrible looking app, because it usually means that I have to wait 3-6months to reapply.


If you cannot remember the name of the direct supervisor just give the corporate number of the company.

When we were at WDW later last year the Bahama Breeze was hiring.

You need a full time job so you can get a clunker that you can use to get to work.

Have you considered moving in with your mother or back with your aunt? It may not be what you want but it maybe what is needed right now.

Why did Disney let you go? Did you collect unemployment? Why do you clash with management. Do what they tell you and keep your mouth shut.

I think the best way is the temp agency. They will get your foot in at companies. Eventually one foot will result in a new job.

I read the rest of your reply. If you interview like you reply here I can see why you don't get the job. You come across as very negative and not a go getter. You need to show them WHY they should pick you over the others. You also need to fix you attitude about management.

BTW many time one goes to work even when the "hate it". They do it for their family and realize that all jobs change over time. Some jobs will get worse and then get better again. Sometimes the "hatred of a job" is really the negativeness of the person and not the job.

[BelleWDW]

I think a lot of people on this thread don't understand the new online application process.

These type of stores dont want a resume'
There's no way to make a creative listing of your work history


Most 25 year olds went to college a couple years-you did-really part time-BUT that's not something a retail employer will really check- then have a few jobs. i think that is normal

I'd list the college for 2 years

Then your last 2 jobs-Home Depot and Disney then uses your Aunt's job for th previous time frame-no one will KNOW you worked for your family

Forget the other ones

Have it all written down-dates, adress-if you cant remember managers-skip that-so you can easily copy when filling the online application

[DOPEYLUVER]

I think a lot of people on this thread don't understand the new online application process.

These type of stores dont want a resume'
There's no way to make a creative listing of your work history


Most 25 year olds went to college a couple years-you did-really part time-BUT that's not something a retail employer will really check- then have a few jobs. i think that is normal

I'd list the college for 2 years

Then your last 2 jobs-Home Depot and Disney then uses your Aunt's job for th previous time frame-no one will KNOW you worked for your family

Forget the other ones

Have it all written down-dates, adress-if you cant remember managers-skip that-so you can easily copy when filling the online application

All of these is true. I just wanted to mention that where I work, we don't have an on-line application process. I also have two teenage kids who have gotten jobs in the last year and have not gone through an on-line process. Make sure you keep all of your options open - not just on-line.

[BelleWDW]

This is true.

The big chains tend to do online
My small retail store-you have to fill out OUR application-but it is very similar and straightforward, like the online kind

[rpmdfw]

If you cannot remember the name of the direct supervisor just give the corporate number of the company.

When we were at WDW later last year the Bahama Breeze was hiring.

You need a full time job so you can get a clunker that you can use to get to work.

Have you considered moving in with your mother or back with your aunt? It may not be what you want but it maybe what is needed right now.

Why did Disney let you go? Did you collect unemployment? Why do you clash with management. Do what they tell you and keep your mouth shut.

I think the best way is the temp agency. They will get your foot in at companies. Eventually one foot will result in a new job.

I read the rest of your reply. If you interview like you reply here I can see why you don't get the job. You come across as very negative and not a go getter. You need to show them WHY they should pick you over the others. You also need to fix you attitude about management.

BTW many time one goes to work even when the "hate it". They do it for their family and realize that all jobs change over time. Some jobs will get worse and then get better again. Sometimes the "hatred of a job" is really the negativeness of the person and not the job.


I highlighted a couple things in the above that I think are really important. I'd say that MOST people over the course of their working lives have bosses or supervisors that they dislike quite a bit. Ditto with jobs that they "hate". The only thing you can do in those situations is bite the bullet, play their game, and look for something else. Quitting and telling them to "shove it" might be fun (and I'd LOVE to do it sometimes), it's not the responsible and adult thing to do. Bills have to get paid and responsibilities have to get met.

And when you're in a situation where you don't like the job or the boss, you have to work HARDER at being a good employee. Don't give them a reason to fire you. Because in all liklihood, if you don't like them, they know it and that makes them less fond of you as well.

Best of luck to you! :thumbsup2

[TuckandStuiesMom]

Lots of excellent advice here -- All I can add is:

GOOD LUCK!

[CF'er]

Try to gather as much history on your previous employers as you can. Use google to try to get addresses and phone numbers. Even if you don't use them now you will have them if needed later on.

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

Going forward I would advise you not to quit a job until you have another one in place. Quitting a job you don't like without having a new job lined up usually creates more problems than it solves.

[SandrA9810]

I was young... and stupid... and didn't think twice when I told them to shove it.

I really try not to be negative at all when it comes to interviews, I'm not applying for you, so I feel a little less like I need to be all perky and happy and positive. I usually state I moved, seasonal work, not enough hours kind of thing when it comes to saying why I left a job. But I really don't know any way around the flat out truth when it comes to why I left Disney.
The manager that I need to get ahold of at Disney, he was talking with Kari one day and told her "Sandra was a great cast member, I don't know understand why they fired her". So it gives me a little ray of hope that not every one there hated me. I did put up with a few managers that I couldn't even look in the eye at. There was one... he would say really hurtful things to me, like personal attacks. Then like 5mins later stand next me and sorta give me this half hug saying "everything's ok, right? you know i was just playing". But another manager that got the reputation for giving some one a reprimand for going to the bathroom... I got along with him. Yeah we had a few long discussions, but he got to know me, I got to know him. And eventually I figured out what to do to please him. So if anything I did learn quite a bit about how to deal with managers while I was there.

So should I fill out my apps like this?

Job 1
Reliatex (1997-2004) part time/summer job

School (2004-2005)

Job 2
Home Depot (02/06-05/06) Full time. Left to go work for Disney.

Job 3
Disney (06/06-08/09) Full time. Left for family reasons. Which is sorta true... I have spent quite a deal of time driving my mom to Miami and back to spend time with my brother. I've been flying out to Dallas to help my aunt out.

Homemaker (08/09-current).


My mom lives with my sister in Port St Lucie... and well it's just out of the question all together. My aunt lives in Dallas with my g'mother, and we're like oil and vinegar. Plus they live in a two bedroom apartment and there's really no room for me. She's planning to move back to Florida in April/May when her lease is up, but she's not sure if she's coming to Central Fl or down next to my sister. My g'mother is to the point of needing a sitter all the time and home care is really expensive. Maybe at that time I could live with them (if they come here), but I'm not going to Dallas. So if my aunt does wind up here, I'd still have to stretch my time between them and work. (my aunt would be off the days I worked, I would be off the days she worked, that way Ma isn't left alone).

If I need to do a resume, I usually have Kari read it over, and my aunt read it over, plus spell check really is simple to use (I know it doesn't always help with grammatical errors, but it takes out those really stupid little mistakes most people make).

This is the first time of being the bread-winner... before Kari fulfilled that role. While my income was needed, it wasn't the biggest amount. Only at Disney did mine even come close to her's and that was still a few grand short at the end of the year.

[wdwfan16]

I was young... and stupid... and didn't think twice when I told them to shove it.

I really try not to be negative at all when it comes to interviews, I'm not applying for you, so I feel a little less like I need to be all perky and happy and positive. I usually state I moved, seasonal work, not enough hours kind of thing when it comes to saying why I left a job. But I really don't know any way around the flat out truth when it comes to why I left Disney.
The manager that I need to get ahold of at Disney, he was talking with Kari one day and told her "Sandra was a great cast member, I don't know understand why they fired her". So it gives me a little ray of hope that not every one there hated me. I did put up with a few managers that I couldn't even look in the eye at. There was one... he would say really hurtful things to me, like personal attacks. Then like 5mins later stand next me and sorta give me this half hug saying "everything's ok, right? you know i was just playing". But another manager that got the reputation for giving some one a reprimand for going to the bathroom... I got along with him. Yeah we had a few long discussions, but he got to know me, I got to know him. And eventually I figured out what to do to please him. So if anything I did learn quite a bit about how to deal with managers while I was there.

So should I fill out my apps like this?

Job 1
Reliatex (1997-2004) part time/summer job

School (2004-2005)

Job 2
Home Depot (02/06-05/06) Full time. Left to go work for Disney.

Job 3
Disney (06/06-08/09) Full time. Left for family reasons. Which is sorta true... I have spent quite a deal of time driving my mom to Miami and back to spend time with my brother. I've been flying out to Dallas to help my aunt out.

Homemaker (08/09-current).


My mom lives with my sister in Port St Lucie... and well it's just out of the question all together. My aunt lives in Dallas with my g'mother, and we're like oil and vinegar. Plus they live in a two bedroom apartment and there's really no room for me. She's planning to move back to Florida in April/May when her lease is up, but she's not sure if she's coming to Central Fl or down next to my sister. My g'mother is to the point of needing a sitter all the time and home care is really expensive. Maybe at that time I could live with them (if they come here), but I'm not going to Dallas. So if my aunt does wind up here, I'd still have to stretch my time between them and work. (my aunt would be off the days I worked, I would be off the days she worked, that way Ma isn't left alone).

If I need to do a resume, I usually have Kari read it over, and my aunt read it over, plus spell check really is simple to use (I know it doesn't always help with grammatical errors, but it takes out those really stupid little mistakes most people make).

This is the first time of being the bread-winner... before Kari fulfilled that role. While my income was needed, it wasn't the biggest amount. Only at Disney did mine even come close to her's and that was still a few grand short at the end of the year.

Bold - This is the wrong answer. How do you know that I am not looking for an employee in central FL or that I could recommend you for a job. You need to have a positive attitude at all times to make it second nature to you. You may think you project a positive attitude but you are so negative that that may still show through.

[SandrA9810]

For job 1, do I list the current controller?? I worked under her for about year or so, but most the time was spent with my aunt.

For job 2, do I list my department head (that I didn't get along with)?? Or one of the manager's above him that did like me?? Neither of which are at the same store... I don't know if any of the same managment is left.

For job 3. I list my home room manager (that did like me). But I have to list Casting's phone number, which is who they call to verify my employment. I don't know even know if there's an address to give... of course most often found address is p.o. box 10000 lake buena vista.... but that's just a general address Disney uses.


It actually doesn't look too bad when I leave out the other stuff, I still have experience in retail, customer service, photography, and office work.
And I'm not really lying about school years because I went Fall of 04 and Fall of 05 semsters. I just didn't go full time, or get a degree.

[SandrA9810]

If I can't be myself here on the boards, where can I be myself?

Plus that might be slightly akward... getting a job through a message board about Disney. Of course I did do the whole dating thing through message boards once, even flew 3,000 miles to meet in person. My suggestion, never go to Canada during the winter if you're a native floridian.

[wdwfan16]

If I can't be myself here on the boards, where can I be myself?

Plus that might be slightly akward... getting a job through a message board about Disney. Of course I did do the whole dating thing through message boards once, even flew 3,000 miles to meet in person. My suggestion, never go to Canada during the winter if you're a native floridian.

Be the positive you not the negative you.

[mkymouse1928]

I think the work history you have listed is acceptable. You need to find out your rehire status at Disney so you can be prepared for any questions that may arise about that.

Re-think using a temp agency. Just be specific about what you want and they will work to find those assignments that are more long term or that are temp to hire positions.

Job hunting is a full-time job. You need to spend 40 hrs a week looking until you find something. That means scouring the on-line sites like monster and career builder, going to the places of business and talking to someone, and filling out applications.

Talk to a head-hunter. This is different from a temp agency, and they will work to get you interviews.

Network You should be making at least 5 contacts a day. Talk to you friends and neighbors. Know precisely the type of position that you are looking for so they can help you out. When I was looking, I told everyone I knew, and I let them know what types of positions I would like and what I was good at doing.

Also, don't rule things out because of what you see on paper. Call the hiring manager and ask questions. You may have the necessary qualifications, but your job history doesn't specifically show them.

Always look professional. Don't wear jeans when going in to ask for an app. Make sure your hair and nails are neat and tidy.

After applying, call to find out the status of your application. Ask questions if they say you were declined to gain feedback for future searching.

Good Luck. I know the job market sucks right now, but there are jobs to be had. Those jobs are going to be filled by those people who are aggressive and who show they want to work.

[TheZue]

First of all I want to say I'm sorry about you and Kari...doesn't make for a very good Christmas :sad2:

And second yay for looking for a job :woohoo: A new start and meeting new people will probably help right now.

Also on your resume I wouldn't include whether it was full or part time. Just put the job down and what your responsibilities were.

Like:

Walt Disney World June 2006-August 2009 (555) 555 5555
Employed as Fastpass Processor. Primary responsibilites included assisting customers with photo-editing, selling various photo products, and processing cash.

Don't say why you left, you don't need to say how many hours you had or anything. You don't even need your managers name just the phone number. Chances are they'll get HR when they call anyways.

For references you can always use people you've interacted with outside of work as well. I went back to work this year after being my mothers caregiver for 12 years, needless to say my references had all dried up and my name changed due to marriage. I included my aunt because she was the one who assisted me with my mom's situation and a good friend. You are better off to have somebody on there you KNOW will say something good about you than guess on old managers...my husband actually got a call about an employee that he doesn't remember, not a good reference check for whoever it was. I got 3 calls from the 10 resumes I put out and had a job literally in six hours.

One other thing I would suggest is to set up a professional email address with a totally different username than any of your message board names. You wouldn't want somebody to google your email and find all the problems you've had in the past.

Edit: another way to get along well with your managers is figure out where their bosses want. If you can do things they are getting pestered on before they have to even ask you they'll like you. If you can figure out what figures go into their bonuses and help them they'll like you more. A significant portion of their salaries come from making their bonus numbers.

[NHdisneylover]

Most 25 year olds went to college a couple years-you did-really part time-BUT that's not something a retail employer will really check- then have a few jobs. i think that is normal[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Navy"]I'd list the college for 2 years



I wanted to say I advise against this. Unless I am misunderstanding you, you only took a few classes and failed about half of them. Also, what you took does not sound like 'serious' classes working toward any type of field. It is very sijmple in this day and age for prosepctive employers to check on your schooling and lying about it (or being misleading) is a fast way to be dumped (often this is checked up on as you are training, etc. so you will think you have a job--or one of those managers with whom you have a mutual dislike can look it up at any time if they suspect something) from consideration or employment. I know at least one person who had her school history looked into by a gas station which she had applied to work swing shift at (she had exagerated her GPA and it came back to haunt her). DH makes it a point to always check the school history of every employee--from the janitor to the plant manager. I think in your situation you are much better off not mention it at all (if it somehow comes up later it is valid to say hose were "just for fun" classes and not really an education so you did not think to list them) than to mislead employers with the idea that you are essentially half way to a degree.

I highlighted a couple things in the above that I think are really important. I'd say that MOST people over the course of their working lives have bosses or supervisors that they dislike quite a bit. Ditto with jobs that they "hate". The only thing you can do in those situations is bite the bullet, play their game, and look for something else. Quitting and telling them to "shove it" might be fun (and I'd LOVE to do it sometimes), it's not the responsible and adult thing to do. Bills have to get paid and responsibilities have to get met.

And when you're in a situation where you don't like the job or the boss, you have to work HARDER at being a good employee. Don't give them a reason to fire you. Because in all liklihood, if you don't like them, they know it and that makes them less fond of you as well.

Best of luck to you! :thumbsup2

Such good advice here that I thought it needed repeating:thumbsup2

[SandrA9810]

So should I list all of my jobs?? Some of them?? What I've been doing hasn't worked, so I know something needs to change, and unfortantly the past isn't something that's easily changed.

Do most employers run background checks even as soon as you submit an application?? I know they ask for approval during the app processes. And is it really that common for employers to run credit checks on entry level stuff?

I know it seems to be common to search social network sites, but I only use facebook, and that's hidden from any one searching me. In a google search, my name and my email address don't pull up much. Mostly my FAQ that I wrote for a video game that's been published on several sites and my really old, like 8 years old, webpage I created in high school. But there's nothing negative or wrong with it, and no bad pictures. And yes, my email is different than my screen names, and think it's fairly neutral. No extensive set of numbers, no crazy name to it, very basic.

[wdwfan16]

Have you pulled your credit reports? Many employers do that and a bad report can prevent your employment.

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

I don't have any idea how much of a background check employers do these days. If they pull a credit report they will see any employers you previously listed when you applied for credit.

I would think for entry level jobs they don't do much checking because the time and expense involved to check wouldn't make much sense. Then again, if they subscribe to some sort of service that runs checks on all of their employees, eh, who knows?

[TheZue]

So should I list all of my jobs?? Some of them?? What I've been doing hasn't worked, so I know something needs to change, and unfortantly the past isn't something that's easily changed.

Do most employers run background checks even as soon as you submit an application?? I know they ask for approval during the app processes. And is it really that common for employers to run credit checks on entry level stuff?

I know it seems to be common to search social network sites, but I only use facebook, and that's hidden from any one searching me. In a google search, my name and my email address don't pull up much. Mostly my FAQ that I wrote for a video game that's been published on several sites and my really old, like 8 years old, webpage I created in high school. But there's nothing negative or wrong with it, and no bad pictures. And yes, my email is different than my screen names, and think it's fairly neutral. No extensive set of numbers, no crazy name to it, very basic.

When picking which jobs to put up think about the ones that demonstrate the skills you have to offer. So you definitely want one with cash, I'd put up the photopass one because it demonstrates aptitude with computers, one with customer interaction etc. If you have a bunch where you basically did exactly the same thing pick the one you were at the longest. Don't go into making your resume from a defensive frame of mind, you have a lot of retail experience and show them what you know how to do.

Another idea for references, why don't you talk to some people who worked with you on the bag swap or benifited from it? That showed a lot of motivation and organizational skills.

[SandrA9810]

I pull my credit report yearly, but I can't do it till march I think. I usually pull it around the time I fill my tax return, and try to get a couple things paid off on it. I don't even have a credit score because the amount of bad debt = to the amount of positives, so it kinda cancels each other out.

I don't have any credit solely in my name. I'm an authorized user on Kari's credit cards, which don't look spectacular at the moment. I could call and drop my name from the cards that aren't looking so good. It helps a little bit that I'm on there, because I've noticed Kari's score affected by her parent's card (she's listed as an authorized user). But it's a lot of old debt, some mine, some because of my mother, but I usually put the larger amounts to the side and put the money towards current credit cards that are charging 20% interest. I also focused more on Kari's report because we used it for getting credit, for getting apartments. Mine was just an after thought. Of course now I have no way to pay it off to clear it up.

I'm going to wait till I get one thing cleared up before putting in Apps again. Which I have a feeling kept me from getting a job at hhgregg, and gave me issues when I applied at Disney. Hopefully it won't take much longer to get resolved, I'm like 3/4 of the way there.

[wdwfan16]

I pull my credit report yearly, but I can't do it till march I think. I usually pull it around the time I fill my tax return, and try to get a couple things paid off on it. I don't even have a credit score because the amount of bad debt = to the amount of positives, so it kinda cancels each other out.

I don't have any credit solely in my name. I'm an authorized user on Kari's credit cards, which don't look spectacular at the moment. I could call and drop my name from the cards that aren't looking so good. It helps a little bit that I'm on there, because I've noticed Kari's score affected by her parent's card (she's listed as an authorized user). But it's a lot of old debt, some mine, some because of my mother, but I usually put the larger amounts to the side and put the money towards current credit cards that are charging 20% interest. I also focused more on Kari's report because we used it for getting credit, for getting apartments. Mine was just an after thought. Of course now I have no way to pay it off to clear it up.

I'm going to wait till I get one thing cleared up before putting in Apps again. Which I have a feeling kept me from getting a job at hhgregg, and gave me issues when I applied at Disney. Hopefully it won't take much longer to get resolved, I'm like 3/4 of the way there.

You did not work in 2009, so no tax refund. You are not employed, so how do you plan on paying off your bad debt?:confused3

[SandrA9810]

Of course now I have no way to pay it off to clear it up.
Bottom of second paragraph.

I'm just saying, that's usually what happened in the past. And the reason why I can't pull it again for another couple of months. So I honestly don't remember what's sitting on there right now. I probably still have the print out some where, but not easily accessable. After I would pay off what I could, I usually try to shred it.

[wdwfan16]

Of course now I have no way to pay it off to clear it up.
Bottom of second paragraph.

I'm just saying, that's usually what happened in the past. And the reason why I can't pull it again for another couple of months. So I honestly don't remember what's sitting on there right now. I probably still have the print out some where, but not easily accessable. After I would pay off what I could, I usually try to shred it.

You said you were going to wait unit you cleared things up before putting in Apps.

You needed a job yesterday. You need to put in Apps tomorrow morning. Waiting to pay off debt before applying for a job when you have not job will mean you will never apply for a job.

How long did Kari give you to get a job and pay half of the bills?

[SandrA9810]

No... not debt clear up. I'm not counting on that. Maybe when I get an inheratence...
I was referring to something else.

And I don't really know what Kari wants because she flip flops all the time. She wants to take over the finances but still asks me to take care of things. She wants my bank card back, but she hands it back so I can do stuff for her.

If I was to get a good enough job some where, and didn't need to live with her. I have a 401k that I could cash out. It's not that much, but it would be enough for a starter. But as it is, it really wouldn't do me any good to cash it out at the moment.

[hematite153]

Going back to school is out of the question... I really suck at classroom setting. I started hating school like in 5 grade. And I probably can't tell you a single thing that I learned there.
My computer skills come from my own learning.

School doesn't have to be a classroom. If you're interested in building towards self employment, you might want to look for trades apprenticeships--I've known a few people who were good at "on the job" learning, but, not classroom learning who were able to get paid while learning and finished with terrific skills. (I.e. many plumbers are essentially self-employed.)

Really? Strange that never occurred with my officers in my family -- the training has always been provided by the force hired by.

Hmmn...Provincial differences? I'm talking based on the officers who come in annually to talk to my teens about what they need to do to become police officers. They've all indicated significant training once hired, but, they've also said that they wouldn't have even gotten an interview without first completing at least the 2-year Police Foundations program.

If I can't be myself here on the boards, where can I be myself?

Plus that might be slightly akward... getting a job through a message board about Disney.

I agree with both sides of this discussion. You should be able to be yourself here. But, there are likely to be people who talk on these boards who might have available jobs and while it might seem like a strange way to get a job, I got my first professional job because my boyfriend at the time messaged a random stranger on irc who lived in my area to ask how I could get on irc there. (Note: obviously back in the day before internet access was rampant.) The stranger asked some questions and then said, "I'm hiring next week and she sounds like a candidate, send her over." It was a terrific job and I loved working there.

Plus, there is something to getting in the habit of being positive. If it becomes second nature to be, speak and act positively, then, that's what the world sees and that helps with all kinds of things from getting a job, to getting along with management, etc. I can be very negative at times, but, I have a reputation for spinning EVERYTHING as a positive. I don't always do it here, but, it's enough of a habit that I shock people at work whenever they hear me down.

For example, another way of spinning the Disney ending would be to say that it was a valuable learning experience as to how important it is to be quality team player in terms of reliability and attitude.

The other thing I'd add is that if you're only filling out online forms, there are probably jobs you're missing in your hunt.

Good Luck!

[DVC~OKW~96]

You said you were going to wait unit you cleared things up before putting in Apps.

You needed a job yesterday. You need to put in Apps tomorrow morning. Waiting to pay off debt before applying for a job when you have not job will mean you will never apply for a job.

How long did Kari give you to get a job and pay half of the bills?

These comments are constructive, supportive and helpful how?

Sandra, go online and look at any number of resumes. Find one that you like best and write your's to match it.

Do no include the college classes you took. The only that counts about college/uni is getting a degree, so until you do, don't list the classes.

List the jobs by category, and list the skills that you needed to perform those categories of jobs. Use a year for the employment period, not the month, day, etc.

If online applications don't work for you, then apply at places that will still accept hard copies.

It's not easy getting a job, or keeping one, but you have to start somewhere, so do just that. Start anywhere and learn with each attempt.

Take care now and try not to let negativity get in your way (whether your own, or someone else's).

[SandrA9810]

I'm not avoiding paper apps, and I'm not trying to exclude online apps. Most of them are basically the same. Personal info, school info, work history... and unlike a resume, I can't just clump together all my retail stuff into catagory. And even if I did apply for jobs that required a resume first, I'd still have to fill out an app where my prior work history would come to light with dates and manager's names.

When it comes to doing that, do I just omit jobs like home depot, the temp agency, or party city??

Reliatex, Gamestop, Disney where about the only jobs that had a significant learning experience, that I gained something more from that just a paycheck.
Reliatex, I was the office gopher. My aunt actually taught me every position, so when she would work saturday's by herself, she could have me sit at a desk to catch up on that work (usually if some one took a vacation). The final thing I did there, and declined to do full time was the consignment inventory. I had to keep track of all the rolls, if they were going out to other companies, purchased by us, and about every other month, go out there and count all the rolls.

Gamestop was my first retail. I learned the whole register, pushing extra items (bah stupid reservations and subscriptions). I became more comfortable talking on the phone. I still had to keep up with stock (checking in shipments) and keeping things clean. I'm very OCD about the shelves being stocked, which can sometimes become time consuming, but the store always looked neat and clean.

Disney was just an overall kick in butt reality check. Yeah I let the worst of me get to me at the end. But sticking to it for 2years was tough. I learned how to deal with managers, I learned how to deal with guests who you really couldn't help without giving them a million dollars and chaufer them in a golden carriage. I learned how to provide high customer service. And as a bonus I learned a lot about cameras. Most of it was just hands on and listening to other's talk. But I can deal with almost any camera out there now. (as long as it's free handed... studio cameras are a bit more complicated).

Home Depot was nice too for learning about plants. I got hired at the start of spring, so I got to go to lots of training classes at different stores, nurseries, even Scotts testing grounds. I even did enough PK classes online to become a garden specialist, and I was also elected to one of like 3 lawn care specialists (to deal with mowers and stuff), but that sorta went over my head. I liked the plants outside.

My ideal job, probably just delivering pizzas. I love being behind the wheel, I don't get lost easily (and I don't use a GPS), and I'd make tips off of it. Most of the work seems to be done solely, and it's not like I'd have a manager sitting in the passenger seat all the time. But yeah, I'd think they'd look a little more closely at my driving record. Again young and stupid I have a few things on there. The two most recent was a speeding ticket (under 9mph over the limit), and the other was making an illegal left turn (it was at night and I didn't notice any signs that said not to, at an intersection they decided to forbid it at like 2 nights prior). I think things drop off after like 3 or 5 years... so hopefully they can't dig that stuff up. But a car usually helps with getting a job like that.

[NHdisneylover]

I just saw another post by you on the Budget Board. Is there any chance your aunt can help you get a job at Cracker Barrel?:confused3

[SandrA9810]

Not really. I can list that I was refered by her, but she's out in Texas and I'm here. There's only that store in the Dallas area, and well it would be very very akward working next to her. Plus I'm not going to move out to Dallas.

[OrlandoMike]

Most large businesses will only confirm dates of employment, pay, position/title, and if the termination was voluntary or involuntary.

You are overthinking the resume thing...KEEP IT SIMPLE!

Game Stop - November 2002-March 2003 - Sales Rep
Home Depot - May 2003-December 2003 - Sales Associate
Walt Diseny World - April 2004-September 2004 - Photopass


Thats all you have to do, mention the name of the employer, the dates worked, and the position you had. Dont bother with names and telephone numbers, it wont help you at all. Even if your new employer were to contact your old boss at Disney, your old boss would only direct them to the HR department to confirm your dates.....

Organize by dates worked, most recent to oldest. Get this done tonight, print it off, get up early tomorrow morning, and hit the pavement!

[mum4jenn]

Take an ink pen with you. I would never hire anyone who was not at least that prepared. Make sure you look nice. Nice pants and blouse, nice shoes. Maybe this does not "float your boat" but maybe even a little blush or lip gloss, simple jewelry, clean hands and fingernails. If you have tattoos...cover them.

Try all the fast food places too. If you are available to work any kind of hours that will help. There is nothing wrong with working at a food place and you can learn valuable tools for future employment.

Most of all you have to learn to get along with others and especially management. Even though you have had many of those problems in the past you can use those as a learning experience and tell prospective employers that you have learned by past mistakes.

Don't depend on spell check for all of the spelling errors. Spell check will not catch the words that are spelled correctly but used in the wrong way. Examples are your,you're....to, two, too... and so on.

I congratulate you on at least getting started with this. There is a job out there for everybody. Not everyone loves their job and not everyone loves going to work but we do it because we have to and we have responsibilities to take care of.

Good Luck and do not give up.

[crashbb]

So should I fill out my apps like this?

Job 1
Reliatex (1997-2004) part time/summer job

School (2004-2005)

Job 2
Home Depot (02/06-05/06) Full time. Left to go work for Disney.

Job 3
Disney (06/06-08/09) Full time. Left for family reasons. Which is sorta true... I have spent quite a deal of time driving my mom to Miami and back to spend time with my brother. I've been flying out to Dallas to help my aunt out.

Homemaker (08/09-current).


I'm not sure if it is just a typo, but you've put in 2 posts now.

You said earlier that you hadn't worked in over a year, but now are saying you were at WDW until August of 2009. This is easily verified, so not something your can fudge.

[wdwfan16]

Take the first job that you get and then keep looking. It is easier to have get a job when you have a job.

[RitaE]

If you want my heartfelt honest advice you need to show up at the Community College tomorrow and apply for some financial aid and spend the next couple of semesters obtaining some job skills. Mechanic, medical assistant, dental technician ..... this whole "well if I work 15 to 20 hours a week at a minimum wage job I'll be able to feed myself" is nothing except settling for a desperately poor life of poverty.

And yes we know. You don't like school. Honey, lots of people don't like school. Most of us like money though and it is pretty hard to get that without suffering through the job training part. Get over it.

Heck, I bet you can even find a Work Study job at that Community College once they process your aid package.

[SandrA9810]

sorry, it should've been 09/08, sept 2008.

I know the basics of hitting the pavement. I dress nice (I always get comments on my nails because I can grow them out...), I always keep a good pen on me (my handwriting is legiable), there's no tattooes for covering up (plus it's jacket weather), and I try to smile a lot. Ohh and eye contact.

I just really need to figure out how to fill out my previous employment section, because that seems to be the only thing wrong. It would be great to put a little asterick and say "yeah, I've had problems in the past, but I've learned from my mistakes". You don't get any of those opprotunities to do that until an interview. It seems very few stores where managers that work out on the floor are the same ones that do the hiring, so you don't even get to talk to the person that accepts your application.
When I was standing on the other side (it happened a lot at Gamestop), it was kind of funny how people tried to impress me when they turned in an app. I knew we weren't hiring, and wouldn't be for a long time. On top of that, I had no decision making power in who's app was actually reviewed. I just always picture the person I'm handing my app to, as no one that has any saying in the HR area and all my effort is for nothing.

Unfortantly living in the heart of tourist town, every one I know works for the mouse. A few friends along the way have worked at the other parks too, but no connection to HR.

Simple question, should I omit jobs I feel are irrelavent? Should I mention them if in an interview, and asked about the employment gap??

When I did my interview for Disney, she focused more on my willingness to learn, and my passion for Disney. I had no prior experience for what I was applying for, the past seemed a bit irrelevant. Plus I was all giddy and excited about being in the Casting building.

[SandrA9810]

It seems my followers have found me... only took a day. I knew I should've created a new screen name for this topic.


I practically failed out of high school. Passed basic computer, new testament history, and brit lit (harry potter and lord of the rings). I can't learn in a classroom setting. It doesn't do me any good. So going back to school is not an option. Plus I live too far away from the college campus.

And yeah, 20hrs a week might be poverty, but at least it's not homeless. Baby steps, that is what this is about. Plus considering most retail places have probably laid off the holiday help, and kept on a few worthwhile people... pickings are extremely slim. I highly doubt there's many full time positions available, and something is better than nothing. Even at part time, my butt is there and I can put in for full time when the opprotunity comes along.

[R2D1]

Hi SandrA9810.

I have to agree with Rita on preparing for a future, coasting by isn't all that, I know a lot of friends like that. (this is a "honest" thread, right?)

Just throwing something out there, based on all you have written is this thread, how about something like insurance claims? You can be out in the field investigating claims, use your proficiency (and being able to figure things out) with computers by entering details, etc... I don't know what it takes to do that, but it could be a fit?


As for looking at prospective jobs, I know you can make some BANK doing census work. That could be a short term option, making upwards of $16/hr, if I recall...

I am looking at the Monster.com listings for Orlando (ignoring the pyramid scheme/sales ones :rolleyes:) and I see the following:

http://jobview.monster.com/Office-Administrator-Job-Orlando-FL-US-85038186.aspx

http://jobview.monster.com/Data-Entry-Representatives-Job-Orlando-FL-US-85038228.aspx

http://jobview.monster.com/Parking-Attendant-Job-Orlando-FL-US-85169684.aspx

Anyways... hope some of this helps and good luck in whatever you decide!

[hematite153]

I'm not avoiding paper apps, and I'm not trying to exclude online apps. Most of them are basically the same. Personal info, school info, work history... and unlike a resume, I can't just clump together all my retail stuff into catagory. And even if I did apply for jobs that required a resume first, I'd still have to fill out an app where my prior work history would come to light with dates and manager's names.

When I applied for jobs I ALWAYS attached a resume, even when I applied to scoop ice cream on a form that I filled out on the spot. Believe me, the preparedness stands out. (If one person receives your application and passes it to another person to file, the fact that there's an attached resume -- you may need to acquire a pocket stapler -- may cause the 2nd person to pause and read it.)

Remember, adding a resume gives you an opportunity to reorganize the same information that you're trying to put on the form and worrying that it doesn't fit the blanks properly.

When it comes to doing that, do I just omit jobs like home depot, the temp agency, or party city??

I think it depends a lot on what kind of job you're trying to get. If you are applying for a Loew's or golf course maintenance job, include Home Depot because you learned relevant skills there. If you are applying for a retail job, include home depot and party city. If you are applying for a secretarial job, include the temp agency (and possibly list longer-term temp contracts separately if they apply). If you're applying for a photography position, then, you might as well drop these three jobs as irrelevant.

Reliatex, Gamestop, Disney where about the only jobs that had a significant learning experience, that I gained something more from that just a paycheck.
Reliatex, I was the office gopher. My aunt actually taught me every position, so when she would work saturday's by herself, she could have me sit at a desk to catch up on that work (usually if some one took a vacation). The final thing I did there, and declined to do full time was the consignment inventory. I had to keep track of all the rolls, if they were going out to other companies, purchased by us, and about every other month, go out there and count all the rolls.

Gamestop was my first retail. I learned the whole register, pushing extra items (bah stupid reservations and subscriptions). I became more comfortable talking on the phone. I still had to keep up with stock (checking in shipments) and keeping things clean. I'm very OCD about the shelves being stocked, which can sometimes become time consuming, but the store always looked neat and clean.

Disney was just an overall kick in butt reality check. Yeah I let the worst of me get to me at the end. But sticking to it for 2years was tough. I learned how to deal with managers, I learned how to deal with guests who you really couldn't help without giving them a million dollars and chaufer them in a golden carriage. I learned how to provide high customer service. And as a bonus I learned a lot about cameras. Most of it was just hands on and listening to other's talk. But I can deal with almost any camera out there now. (as long as it's free handed... studio cameras are a bit more complicated).

Home Depot was nice too for learning about plants. I got hired at the start of spring, so I got to go to lots of training classes at different stores, nurseries, even Scotts testing grounds. I even did enough PK classes online to become a garden specialist, and I was also elected to one of like 3 lawn care specialists (to deal with mowers and stuff), but that sorta went over my head. I liked the plants outside.

The way you're starting to phrase things here is much better than before. I know that you are currently worried about getting TO the interview, but, thinking about what you'll say during the interview is equally important. I twice happened to walk in with an application as a manager was entering a store and I ended up with an on-the-spot interview. (In one case, I walked out with a job.) These moments are pure luck, but, you don't want to miss one if it's available.

My ideal job, probably just delivering pizzas. I love being behind the wheel, ...

Since you don't want to do temp work because you cannot guarantee having a car, you probably shouldn't look at other jobs that require a vehicle at this point. Plus, if you have anything on your driving record, you'll need to stay away from these jobs until it clears.

Most large businesses will only confirm dates of employment, pay, position/title, and if the termination was voluntary or involuntary.

You are overthinking the resume thing...KEEP IT SIMPLE!

Game Stop - November 2002-March 2003 - Sales Rep
Home Depot - May 2003-December 2003 - Sales Associate
Walt Diseny World - April 2004-September 2004 - Photopass


Thats all you have to do, mention the name of the employer, the dates worked, and the position you had. Dont bother with names and telephone numbers, it wont help you at all. Even if your new employer were to contact your old boss at Disney, your old boss would only direct them to the HR department to confirm your dates.....

Organize by dates worked, most recent to oldest. Get this done tonight, print it off, get up early tomorrow morning, and hit the pavement!

Agreed! (Although I'd correct the spelling of Disney :rolleyes1 before using it.)


It seems very few stores where managers that work out on the floor are the same ones that do the hiring, so you don't even get to talk to the person that accepts your application.
When I was standing on the other side (it happened a lot at Gamestop), it was kind of funny how people tried to impress me when they turned in an app. I knew we weren't hiring, and wouldn't be for a long time. On top of that, I had no decision making power in who's app was actually reviewed. I just always picture the person I'm handing my app to, as no one that has any saying in the HR area and all my effort is for nothing.

Despite your experience of people trying to impress you when you had no power, I'd recommend you revisit this perception and view everyone as someone to impress. Although it is usually true that you're handing an application to a person without power, you never know what the reality of the current situation might be.

Sometimes an owner is working in their own store. Sometimes management listens to staff opinions -- I frequently influenced management decisions about new-hires before I was a manager. Etc.

Plus, the person you hand an application to is someone you're hoping to work with and getting along well will be important then. So, be assertive and give it a try.


Simple question, should I omit jobs I feel are irrelavent? Should I mention them if in an interview, and asked about the employment gap??


Unfortunately, I don't consider the answer simple. I think that it really depends on the job in question.

[hematite153]

I practically failed out of high school. Passed basic computer, new testament history, and brit lit (harry potter and lord of the rings). I can't learn in a classroom setting. It doesn't do me any good. So going back to school is not an option. Plus I live too far away from the college campus.


Seriously, I've worked with people who "practically failed out of high school" who were able to be very successful in some apprenticeship programs. Don't rule out all school-like programs just because you've had bad experiences in the past.

I can understand not wanting to start there given your previous experiences, but, keep it in mind. Keep looking for entry-level work now because anything can be a good beginning. But, don't sell yourself short, keep thinking about where you might want to end up and fill out some online career aptitude forms.

(If it weren't for some really stupid policies, I'd recommend joining the Armed Forces since I've known several people who didn't know what to do with themselves who enlisted and used their initial commitment as a jumping off point to a greatly improved sense of self and level of skills.)

[mum4jenn]

It seems my followers have found me... only took a day. I knew I should've created a new screen name for this topic.



It really would not take much time to figure out it was you if you tried using a new screen name!!! LOL!! You have posted so much about not wanting to work, getting dumped, etc., it would not be easy to hide..... Just sayin'!!

You always come across as being so negative about everything. You need to put the PAST in the past and keep it there and look forward to doing positive things. Don't walk in to places with the defeated attitude you have already given on here. Yes..maybe you can just find part time but look for full time. Or get 2 part time jobs. When I was your age I had 3 jobs at one time!!
The poster who mentioned about who you give the app. to is correct. Many times the person doing the hiring will ask what you looked like, what do they think, do they look promising or do they look like file it in the trash can.

I agree with attaching a resume. It looks more professional and it shows that you are more serious than just walking down the street and applying at each and every place.

And I am trying to be honest here...and I am not trying to be ugly...please get a grip on your attitude. It is really kind of sad that anyone can be so down on themselves as much as you are. Prospective employers see that and most do not want those sad defeated attitudes. If you need to talk to a pastor (there are religions that accept your lifestyle) or a counselor then look into that.

Get away from your current living situation as soon as possible. Stand up on your own two legs and depend on no one. And yes there are lots of us who have given you a hard time about past comments but I think we ALL would like to see you pick yourself up and get a job and be dependent on YOURSELF and not anyone else.

You have been given some great advice on here. PLEASE do yourself a favor and follow all this good advice. Get some sleep and work on positive thoughts.

[MAH4546]

I could have sworn you had a son, or maybe I'm mistaken. Can you support a son on a part-time job? I think you should aim for a full-time job, definitley.

When writing your résumé (some of this might have been mentioned, but I have not read through all the responses) here are some tips (I interview canidates/help make hiring decissions at my workplace and see resumes from students by the thousands every August):

*Don't lie about dates! This is crucial. Usually a company will call old employers to verify date and job title, but we frequently don't ask - nor do we care - about the reason for termination (admittedly, we hire mostly students coming straight out of school, so its frequently just internships and such).

*There is no need to write on the resume why you left, regardless of the reason. If it comes up in an interview, be honest, but you still must put a positive spin on the reason. Saying "I didn't get along with my manager" is not going to work.

*There likely isn't much harm in only listing 3-4 of your most recent jobs. You don't need to go into detail for every job.

*Add an "interests" section. The interests can be anything you like, even if they are obscure. Interests sections don't have to be skills, just things you like. Why? Because this totally takes the interview onto a tangent. I love when canidates write interests, because that is what I talk to them in the interview. Usually if you have an interview, you have the credinitals, it is all about personality. Among interests I have seen are "duty free shopping," "self-teaching new languages," and "military history." The best interviews have always been the ones that go on tangents.

Your résumé job listings should look like this:

[COMPANY and JOB TITLE] [DATES]
*[Skill learned #1]
*[Skill learned #2]
*[Skill learned #3]

[lila]

I'm very good at being negative about all this... so I'll try to limit my responses. (I'm good at turning the tables to make it seem like I'm not the one in the wrong, even though it might be true).

True story. Have you tried approaching this from the perspective of what do I like to do, what type of job would I excel in, and what type of job do I have the skills/tools to do (e.g., a car is needed to deliver pizza)?

[hematite153]

I was doing a quick search looking for local places you could walk into to find in person advice from people who advise job-seekers for a living (which I didn't quickly find btw) and found...

The Orlando public library system has piles and piles of single session courses on a wide variety of topics (most are computer based).

I get that you don't really want to go back to school. But, a 1hr session on a specific feature in Excel couldn't be that bad, could it? Worst case scenario you don't actually learn the feature and decide to retake the same single session course the following week (repeat until you feel confident).

What I'm thinking is that these courses are FREE ($5 charge if you register and then do NOT show up). So, you could take one per week while looking for a job. Then, you'd have something to talk about in an interview that shows you are serious about building skills and presents you as taking initiative.

If, it ends up taking you awhile to find work you'd then also be able to put the courses you'd completed (and felt confident about) on your resume for future applications.

[bumbershoot]

I saw your post from that main page when you click on The DIS Discussion Forums, and wanted to try to help!

I think you're making resumes/applications too complicated. I will admit that I don't have huge amounts of recent experience in this, but DH has had to fill out a cursory application, along with his resumes, for a few years now, so he's done it many times. And since he has less than 2 years of college and DOES include it, I'm not sure you *have to* omit it. But you also do NOT have to include the classes you took! DH was taking all the early classes, before figuring out a major...sounds like you did actually more than that. But still, no need to include your classes; and hubby has never been asked what classes he took.

Most large businesses will only confirm dates of employment, pay, position/title, and if the termination was voluntary or involuntary.

You are overthinking the resume thing...KEEP IT SIMPLE!

Game Stop - November 2002-March 2003 - Sales Rep
Home Depot - May 2003-December 2003 - Sales Associate
Walt Diseny World - April 2004-September 2004 - Photopass


Thats all you have to do, mention the name of the employer, the dates worked, and the position you had. Dont bother with names and telephone numbers, it wont help you at all. Even if your new employer were to contact your old boss at Disney, your old boss would only direct them to the HR department to confirm your dates.....

Organize by dates worked, most recent to oldest. Get this done tonight, print it off, get up early tomorrow morning, and hit the pavement!

Everything OM said, exactly positively absolutely! Simple simple simple. The interview is the time to get in depth, or at least more in depth than you were in the app/resume.





I just really need to figure out how to fill out my previous employment section, because that seems to be the only thing wrong. It would be great to put a little asterick and say "yeah, I've had problems in the past, but I've learned from my mistakes". You don't get any of those opprotunities to do that until an interview. It seems very few stores where managers that work out on the floor are the same ones that do the hiring, so you don't even get to talk to the person that accepts your application.
When I was standing on the other side (it happened a lot at Gamestop), it was kind of funny how people tried to impress me when they turned in an app. I knew we weren't hiring, and wouldn't be for a long time. On top of that, I had no decision making power in who's app was actually reviewed. I just always picture the person I'm handing my app to, as no one that has any saying in the HR area and all my effort is for nothing.

Think of the people you're handing apps to as being the owner's niece. :) You should always act as though the person who is taking the papers as being important, even though it wasn't your experience. Maybe the owner is watching on the security cameras, ya know?

NO need for asterices, and no need for anything open enough to need asterices on the application.

I do remember that applications asked for reason for leaving...but you don't have to be brutally honest in that inch-wide space. And the one that you said *could* be seen as family reasons...that sounded like family reasons to me!

Little hint...don't cry during an interview. Yeah...Public Storage didn't really appreciate that from me...:rotfl::rotfl2::headache::scared: I know you wouldn't, but I didn't think I would either! Then again, I went in for just the partest-time job, and in the interview found out that everyone hired is considered an "owner" who might end up with "their own" storage facility, which is NOT what I wanted, so it's best I didn't get it. :)

I could have sworn you had a son, or maybe I'm mistaken.

*There is no need to write on the resume why you left, regardless of the reason. If it comes up in an interview, be honest, but you still must put a positive spin on the reason. Saying "I didn't get along with my manager" is not going to work.


I haven't seen mention of a son before...

Agreed with not needing to put that on a resume, but on an application there is sometimes a box for it.

Regardless, you need to come up with something other than didn't get along with mgnt. :)



Sandra, I don't know what happened at home, but it doesn't sound like fun. I'm sorry. :hug:

[sirJeffrey90]

The BEST way to find a job is on a company's website. Construct your resume and cover letter to fit the exact position you're applying, but keep both one page or less in length. Include phone numbers only on references, which should be submitted during an actual interview, not with your resume.

Try applying at department stores! Sears, Kohl's, and JC Penney are all good places to start, however if you have experience in sales/retail, apply at places like Macy's, Nordstrom, Bloomingdale's, and Neiman Marcus; commission there can be upwards of $300 on a good day, plus your normal wage!

Hope this helps!

[NHdisneylover]

You don't get any of those opprotunities to do that until an interview. It seems very few stores where managers that work out on the floor are the same ones that do the hiring, so you don't even get to talk to the person that accepts your application.


I am goig to reiterate what others have said here becuase I think it is very important. ALWAYS treat whoever you are handing that resume to as someone who matters. At my last job, the first thing my boss did when any of us handed her a resume was to ask our impression of the person who turned it in. If that impression was negative, she did not even look at the resume.

Something else, which I have not seen mentioned, but it worked for me other places when I was young, and my boss seemed to take extra notice (in a good way) of people who did it at my last job: When you walk in the door with the application (and your resume stapled to the back--great idea:thumbsup2) ask if you can please speak to a manager and then hand the resume directly to him or her. Thank them for comming out to meet you, shake their hand, let them know you just wanted to be sure the resume got into their hands and maybe ask a question or two. Often this gets you at least an on the spot mini interview. It shows you have the self assurance to handle the conversation on the spot and the motivation to get what you need/want, etc.

It seems my followers have found me... only took a day. I knew I should've created a new screen name for this topic.


Sandra, maybe some posts were deleted by tehe time I got up this morning:confused3 Otherwise, I honestly do not see that the posts in the page or so above this are mean spirited at all (I think one was near the very begining, but I may be confusing that with another thread). I have seen some very honest attempts to help you see how your own behaviour and attitudes are hurting you and trying to steer you into new behaviour and attitudes. I can imagine it is hard to see that and not take ofense--BUT you did ask for honest help and that is what I am seeing. If no posts were erased, PLEASE try to slow down and really look at what is being said and take it in as how it is meant--as HELP. You are in a tough spot, and showing you with pixie dust and saying 'it will all work out--just keep doing what you have been doing' or the like is NOT going to help you at all. In order to change your situation you do have to change your approach and yourself some (that seems to be somehting you really do not want to do--based on posts about your personality and not wanting to change who you are, etc.). You CAN do it, if you are really willing to see that it needs to happen though:hug: I do think you may be better able to do all of this with some help. Please consider contacting a pastor or counselor of some sort. I think you could use more help than random people on a message board can give you with all the negativity you seem to have built up in you.



The Orlando public library system has piles and piles of single session courses on a wide variety of topics (most are computer based).



This is a fantastic sugestion. You can gain skills, show your willingness to elarn/work and change, and even get some networking in. Maybe people in your classes will work somewhere that is hiring, or the librarians always seem to know good places to send patrons to apply that fit their personalities (at least we did at the library I worked at--we used to joke that we should get head hunter fees:rotfl:)

[BelleWDW]

I could have sworn you had a son, or maybe I'm mistaken. Can you support a son on a part-time job? I think you should aim for a full-time job, definitley.

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Her former picture is of her and her ex-girlfriend-that's probably what confused you

[Holly]

Her former picture is of her and her ex-girlfriend-that's probably what confused you

What's confusing about it? :confused:


OP, you may want to make an appointment at your local Department of Labor. One of the counselors there can help you find jobs and apply for them successfully. Good luck. :goodvibes

[wdwfan16]

Does your unemployment office have a jobs retaining and referal service? If so, please go there today.

[mickeysaver]

I could have sworn you had a son, or maybe I'm mistaken. Can you support a son on a part-time job? I think you should aim for a full-time job, definitley.

Her former picture is of her and her ex-girlfriend-that's probably what confused you

What's confusing about it? :confused:

Personally, I haven't followed the OP enough to know for sure if she or her former partner have any kids.

However, in the picture that she used to have in her signature block was of a young woman hugging someone else who was sitting down from behind. Initially, I thought it was a young-ish boy in the picture. Being that I have a wife that many people think is my 18 year old son, I decided to see if the OP did too or if it really was just a kid. So, I did a little snoop by checking the OP's signature image's properties and found the online photo storage site that the OP used. Once there I could see in the larger image that it was two women in the photo. The other photos had names attached that clearly indicated who the OP was and who Kari, aka the ex, was.

So, for anyone that assumed that the OP has/had a son from the image previously attached to her signature block, you made an incorrect assumption.

[pudge the fish]

ok- I work in Non -profit and send people to these places all the time-
(Not in Orlando but kinda close:)
Workforce Central Florida

Orange County 5166 East Colonial Drive
Orlando, FL, 32803
(407)531-1227
East Orange County WORKFORCE CENTRAL FLORIDA
Open Mon-Thur 8-6 and Fri 8-5

Osceola County 1392 East Vine St.
Kissimmee, FL, 34744
(407)705-1555 Osceola WORKFORCE CENTRAL FLORIDA
Open Mon-Thur 8-6 and Fri 8-5

http://www.workforcecentralflorida.com/jobseekers/services.asp

These places will help you (FOR FREE) with applications- what to write and even help you and print (for FREE) a resume.
You can get vouchers for an outfit or two to help in job hunting and they will also give you gas vouchers ( possible bus vouchers- not sure of Orlando on buses) to help you look for a job. They also have job listings & training services. they also have career assessments to see what type of job you fit best into.
These places are here to help you and are wonderful resources for first time job seekers- even if you have had jobs, we (in my report) would consider you a first time/(newbie:) job seeker:)
I hope this helps-
I know that people who go thru the one stops/workforce centers have better luck finding work than just walking in and filling out an application.
Best Wishes:)
There is also : http://cfec.org/ in Orlando

[Broker]

If nobody has said it yet, you have 4 or 5 jobs that you quit because you couldn't get along with management. 1 or 2 is a fluke. 4 or 5 and you should look within. I don't think it's them.

[SandrA9810]

I'll just ignore that last comment...

Pudge: I have used workforce before, back in Broward County... and they really were of no help. They barely even help with making my resume, occasionally the guy would nod yes or no if it looked alright. I still relied on Kari and my aunt for proof readers.
I think the only help they were, was free faxing. I'm not saying they're like that up here, but that's probably why I mentally blocked them out.


I like the resume thing with paper apps. Too bad it can't be done with online apps as well. The last time I made a resume I omited a lot stuff out, so hopefully I can find one a bit older that still has all the dates and stuff.

Maggie: you are correct. I've actually had a few people ask me about my "son". Although the best story about Kari being my son happened in real life. Shortly after moving up here, we went to Friendly's on I-drive, had a really good time there. So a few months later, we went back. The manager seated us, and I asked for a kids menu (kari eats off the kids menu, and she likes to cool blue drink), nothing out of the ordinary for me. Our waitress asks us what we wanted to drink, Kari got her's, I got a coke. Kari argues with me we don't have enough to order a regular meal, I have to get a kids meal. We both had one the last time, so we didn't think it to be a problem. Kari has a big thing about reading while eating, so she had her nose stuck in a book, and I proceeded to order for us.
me: "she'd like a kids cheeseburger meal with fries."
w: "ok, and what would you like?"
me: "I'll have the kids chicken fingers."
w: "sorry, the kids menu is for only kids under 12"
me: "well the manager seated us with a kids menu, and didn't say anything"
w: "sorry, that's policy"
me: "well you just let me order for her..."
w: "well isn't he under 12?"
me: "No, she's 25, and I'm 24"
By the end of this conversation, Kari's nose is like 2cm away from the table because she can't believe what is going on. The manager then came over, apologized for the mix up, and said we could both order off the kids menu. Besides bringing our food out, she avoided our table for the entire time. Nor did she get a very big tip.

[mickeyfan1]

Sandra, please. People are really trying to help you. But everything everyone suggests, you have some reason why it won't work. Take a deep breath and try one thing that has been suggested, don't dismiss it out of hand. Many people have been in the "I need a job NOW" situation and have some great deas. The guy with all the county suggestions, those are great. Maybe you got there on a bad day, maybe not, But when you walk in with a negative attitude, exactly like the one you are displaying here, it is easy to see why people turn off.

[SandrA9810]

Ohh I'm not declining the help and info from every one. I'm just making a comment about certain things that I feel haven't worked for me in the past. I really am trying to take in all that has been said here. There's too many things to comment on for the good stuff, so I'm just saying if something hasn't worked before.

[SandrA9810]

This is the last resume I created. What's wrong with it?? (the funny u and v are bullet points from Word, so you can ignore those). Summary will just depend on where I put my app in at. Both Kari and my aunt think it's pretty decent, but I'm sure you all will think otherwise. It does fit all on one page, and there's room for about two more lines even with my personal info at the top, and one line for summary.


Summary


Work Experience
Photopass Photographer: Walt Disney World
(407) 828-1000 June 2006 to September 2008
µ Photographed guest in all setting, indoor studio, outdoors, in the water, with Characters
µ Assisted Guests in viewing photos and purchasing
µ Assisted Guests with all needs while visiting Disney
With the use of a Nikon D70, I was able to make magic for all Guests.

Sales associate: Party City, Pembroke Pines, FL
***-***-**** September 2004 to March 2005

v Answered phones
v Worked the balloon counter
v Assisted with merchandise stock on the floor

Assisted customers with costume selections and holiday merchandise, and purchasing

Game Advisor: GameStop, Davie, FL
***-***-**** August 2003 to July 2004

v Answered phones
v Promoted advance reservations
v Used sales skills to up sell additional merchandise
v Checked in received shipments
v Processed in used inventory
v Inventory Tracking
Helped customers in selecting and purchasing games and accessories


General Office Assistant: Reliatex, Miami, FL
***-***-**** June 1997 to March 2003

v Inventory control
v Accounts payable
v Customer service
v Answered phones
v Data Entry
v Filing and organization
v Trained the new inventory employee

Helped every one around the office that needed assistance

Education
Broward Community College
Davie, FL

[mum4jenn]

(407) 828-1000 June 2006 to September 2008
µ Photographed guest in all setting, indoor studio, outdoors, in the water, with Characters


Photographed guests in all settings

v Worked the balloon counter
something like assisted customers with balloon selections and purchases


Assisted with merchandise stock on the floor

A little confused with the wording on this one. Does this mean you helped putting out stock or you helped in sales of merchandise on the sales floor????


Trained the new inventory employee

A bit cofused on the wording on this too. Sounds like you trained someone that has the job title of "new inventory employee"

[solotraveler]

I'll just ignore that last comment...




Sandra, please. People are really trying to help you. But everything everyone suggests, you have some reason why it won't work. Take a deep breath and try one thing that has been suggested, don't dismiss it out of hand. Many people have been in the "I need a job NOW" situation and have some great deas. The guy with all the county suggestions, those are great. Maybe you got there on a bad day, maybe not, But when you walk in with a negative attitude, exactly like the one you are displaying here, it is easy to see why people turn off.

Ohh I'm not declining the help and info from every one. I'm just making a comment about certain things that I feel haven't worked for me in the past. I really am trying to take in all that has been said here. There's too many things to comment on for the good stuff, so I'm just saying if something hasn't worked before.

I realize that I'm kind of late to the thread, but I think, OP, that you have gotten a lot of sincere, good advice from people who truly want to help you.

Having just read through the whole thread, I think what people are concerned about is what seems to be an overall lack of self-awareness of exactly why you find yourself in this position in the first place.

While you may think that Broker's comment is a slam on you, that's pretty much what anyone hiring is going to think when they look at your resume and work history unless you can prove to them otherwise.

Honestly, it is tough for anyone to find work in Florida right now, no matter how qualified the candidate. I know. I was laid off in January and had to relocate out of state to find a job after five months of constant applications and barely a nibble. I hope that you are able to obtain a job offer quickly and take it.... even if it's flipping burgers for General Patton.... and then after some time look for something that suits you better.

I hope you are able to see this process as a real learning experience. Stop thinking about just subsisting and figure out what you want to do to make a career. I know that a lot of these posts can come off as harsh (perhaps even this one), I think what people are trying to impress upon you is that the time for baby steps is long past. I hope you are able to make the changes so you don't find yourself stuck again.

I really, honestly, wish you the best of luck in finding a job.

:earsboy:

[SandrA9810]

(407) 828-1000 June 2006 to September 2008
µ Photographed guest in all setting, indoor studio, outdoors, in the water, with Characters


Photographed guests in all settings

v Worked the balloon counter
something like assisted customers with balloon selections and purchases


Assisted with merchandise stock on the floor

A little confused with the wording on this one. Does this mean you helped putting out stock or you helped in sales of merchandise on the sales floor????


Trained the new inventory employee

A bit cofused on the wording on this too. Sounds like you trained someone that has the job title of "new inventory employee"


well this one I created when I was applying for another photography position, so that's why I included all the settings that I was trained for. I can delete it if it seems too much.


I did both at party city, help put out the stock, and helped the customers with selection.

I trained the new girl in my position of inventory control. I couldn't accept the job full time, so they hired some one new and I trained her before I left.
So I guess that's my one gleaming star of goodness.

[NHdisneylover]

well this one I created when I was applying for another photography position, so that's why I included all the settings that I was trained for. I can delete it if it seems too much.


I did both at party city, help put out the stock, and helped the customers with selection.

I trained the new girl in my position of inventory control. I couldn't accept the job full time, so they hired some one new and I trained her before I left.
So I guess that's my one gleaming star of goodness.

I believe mum4jenn was just trying to help you fix a grammatical error. You have wirtten:
"Photographed guest in all setting" As mum4jenn pointed out you need to make both guest and setting plural (unless you only ever photgraphed one guest at Disney:rotfl:--trying to brighten the mood). However, I do think simply saying that you "photographed guests in a variety of settings" without going into further specifics sounds better (unless you are going for a photography position).

[mum4jenn]

well this one I created when I was applying for another photography position, so that's why I included all the settings that I was trained for. I can delete it if it seems too much.
It's not that it is too much information..it was to show you spelling errors


I did both at party city, help put out the stock, and helped the customers with selection.
You should word it that way then. The wording is weird...that is why I included it in my corrections.

Maybe something like:
Assisted with merchandise stocking
Performed sales related duties to provide excellent customer service

I trained the new girl in my position of inventory control. I couldn't accept the job full time, so they hired some one new and I trained her before I left.
So I guess that's my one gleaming star of goodness.Again it is just the wording that needs to be tweaked. I was not trying to question "why" but the wording does not make it clear.

Maybe something like Trained employees in proper inventory control.


Just some ideas. LIke I said...it is not so much WHAT you have done but HOW it is worded in your document.

[wdwfan16]

I also think the word ASSISTED is used to much. Find other ways to say the same thing.

[SandrA9810]

we were kinda left at a blank at how to word training my replacement. Should I just put "trained replacement before leaving" ??
For my main point in photopass "With the use of a Nikon D70, I was able to make magic for all Guests." Is there something better to put? Again this was for a photography position, so on a general resume I don't think most are going to care what kind of camera I used.

It's not easy doing this because there's so many contradictions to writing one. I've heard not to use past tense, but if I'm no longer doing it, then it was in the past.

And having like 20 people give imput is better than just 2. I trust my aunt's advise, but she hasn't been in position of hiring people for years now and might not be up on what's acceptable these days.

[Broker]

I'll just ignore that last comment...



Ignore it if you want but people here are just too nice. You needed a little dose of reality to TRULY help you. Sorry to put it so bluntly but you don't seem to be understanding what people are trying to tell you. So instead of sugar coating it, I shot you straight. And once again, denial. I don't know you so it doesn't really matter to me if you ever get a job. But if by being mean, you get a little flustered and actually realize that it could be you, I'm fine with that. I'll be the scapegoat here if you become a better employee because of it.

But as I said, ignore it if you want. I have very few credentials here other than being a business owner and an adjunct professor teaching business to students working on their MBA.

[OrlandoMike]

Sandra....

Photopass Host - Walt Disney World (Dates Worked)


Will do just fine. Everyone here in Orlando knows what a Photopass Host, Home Deopt Clerk etc does for work. No need to go into details....

More importantly....how many appointments did you go to today?

[mum4jenn]

THis article was on my homepage this morning.

Not Getting Hired? 10 Reasons Why

Published: 12/15/09, 6:29 PM EDT

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You don't understand. You updated your résumé, you're applying to jobs every day, you've cleaned up your digital dirt and you network every day. Yet here you still are on the unemployment list. What is wrong with employers?
Unfortunately, many job seekers don't stop to consider the fact that the problem might not be them. It's you.
It's a hard concept that most job seekers have trouble wrapping their heads around, but applicants frequently (and inadvertently) display signs that tell an employer that you're not the best fit for the job.
According to a 2009 CareerBuilder survey, 47 percent of employers said that finding qualified applicants is their biggest hiring challenge. When asked to identify the most valuable characteristics in new hires, employers cited multitasking, initiative and creative problem-solving.
Do you lack what employers want? Yes, there are fewer jobs and there is more competition, but are you doing everything you can? Here are 10 reasons why employers might have looked you over.
1. You lie
Any lies you tell in your job search, whether on your résumé or in an interview, will come back to haunt you. In a 2008 CareerBuilder survey, 49 percent of hiring managers reported they caught a candidate lying on their résumé; of those employers, 57 percent said they automatically dismissed the applicant. Everything you tell an employer can be discovered, so it behooves you to be honest from the get-go. If you're concerned about something in your past, invention is not the answer. Use your cover letter to tell your story, focusing on your strengths and accomplishments and explaining any areas of concern if needed.
2. You've got a potty mouth
It's certainly tempting to tell anyone who will listen how big of a (insert expletive word here) your current boss is, but a hiring manager for a new job is not that person. A 2009 CareerBuilder survey showed that 44 percent of employers said that talking negatively about current or previous employers was one of the most detrimental mistakes a candidate can make. Find a way to turn those negative things job into positives. If you can't get along with your co-workers, for example, tell the prospective employer that you're looking for a work environment where you feel like you're part of a team and your current position doesn't allow for that kind of atmosphere.
3. You don't show long-term potential
Employers want people in their organization to work their way up, so it's best to show that you want to and can grow with the company. If you were asked where you see yourself in five years and you gave an answer that wasn't related to the position or company you're interviewing with, kiss your chances goodbye. Ask questions like, "What type of career movement do you envision for the most successful candidate in this role?" It shows that you have envisioned your future at the company.
4. You have serious digital dirt
Social networking sites and online searches are the newest way that many employers are checking up on prospective hires. A 2009 CareerBuilder survey showed that 45 percent of employers use social networking sites to research candidates. Thirty-five percent of those employers found content that caused them to dismiss the candidate. Make sure to remove any photos, content or links that can work against you in an employer's eyes.
5. You don't know ... well, anything
In two separate 2009 CareerBuilder surveys, 58 percent of employers said that coming to the interview with no knowledge of the company was a turnoff, and 49 percent said that not asking good questions cost candidates a job offer. Plain and simple, do your homework before an interview. Explore the company online, prepare answers to questions and have someone give you a mock interview. The more prepared you are, the more employers will take you seriously.
6. You acted bored, cocky or disinterested
A little enthusiasm never hurt anyone, especially when it comes to a potential new job. Forty-five percent of employers in a 2009 CareerBuilder survey said that the biggest mistake candidates made in the interview was appearing disinterested and 42 percent said appearing arrogant cost applicants the job. Every business wants to put their most enthusiastic people forward with important clients and customers, so acting the opposite will get you nowhere.
7. You were a little too personal
Seventeen percent of employers said that candidates who provided too much personal information in the interview essentially blew their chances at the job, according to a 2009 CareerBuilder survey. Not only does personal information offend some people, but anytime you talk about topics such as your hobbies, race, age or religion, you're setting yourself up for bias. Though it's illegal for employers to discriminate against applicants because of any of these factors, some will do so, regardless.
8. You were all dollars, no sense
As a general rule of thumb, you should never bring up salary before the employer does. Doing so is tacky and makes the employer think that you care about the money involved, not about helping the employer succeed. If the topic does arise, however, be honest about your salary history. Employers can verify your salary in a matter of minutes these days, so lying only makes you look bad.
9. You didn't -- or can't -- give examples
Hiring managers want people who can prove that they will increase the organization's revenues, decrease its costs, or help it succeed in some way. If all you give to an employer is a bunch of empty words about your accomplishments, you don't show them how you can help them. In fact, 35 percent of employers said that the most detrimental mistake candidates make is not providing specific examples in the interview. The more you can quantify your work, the better.
10. You don't have enough experience
Managers don't have as much time as they used to to train and mentor new employees. The more experience you have, the more likely you are to hit the ground running without a lot of hand-holding. The best way to show that you know what you're doing is to give the employer concrete examples of your experience in a given job duty, as stated above.

[mum4jenn]

Sandra....

More importantly....how many appointments did you go to today?

EXACTLY!!!!!

It's great to be asking for help but all the while you need to be getting out there and start putting in applications. You are starting to make the application process part of the problem. You have had this thread going for SEVERAL days now. HOW MANY ACTUAL APPLICATIONS HAVE YOU FILLED OUT SINCE KARI SPLIT UP WITH YOU??????
You have known about this since BEFORE Christmas.

You should NOT ignore Broker...this person is shooting straight with you and trying to give you a good dose or REALITY. There is so much more I could write as I have in the past but I am trying to be helpful.Many have tried to be helpful. You have received tons of good advice so get out there and start getting the job done and stop whining.

[BelleWDW]

Sandra....

Photopass Host - Walt Disney World (Dates Worked)


Will do just fine. Everyone here in Orlando knows what a Photopass Host, Home Deopt Clerk etc does for work. No need to go into details....

More importantly....how many appointments did you go to today?

I agree-you are getting too 'wordy" in job descriptions

[Broker]

You should NOT ignore Broker...this person is shooting straight with you and trying to give you a good dose or REALITY. There is so much more I could write as I have in the past but I am trying to be helpful.MAny have treid to be helpful. You have received tons of good advice so get out there and start getting the job done and stop whining.


And here I thought as the mean man, my responses would not be well received.

[wallyb]

But as I said, ignore it if you want. I have very few credentials here other than being a business owner and an adjunct professor teaching business to students working on their MBA.

Add nasty, judgmental to that list of "credentials" :rolleyes1

[mum4jenn]

Add nasty, judgmental to that list of "credentials" :rolleyes1


It's not being judgmental if the person being discussed has openly discussed not liking to work and not wanting to work and coming up with every lame excuse out there to keep from finding a job. When a person tells on a discussion board (or other sites) all their personal business then they are getting what they are asking for. Kind of like the person out there that has been divorced 4 or 5 times...eventually you have to look inward at yourself to find out the root of the problem.

[solotraveler]

It's not being judgmental if the person being discussed has openly discussed not liking to work and not wanting to work and coming up with every lame excuse out there to keep from finding a job. When a person tells on a discussion board (or other sites) all their personal business then they are getting what they are asking for. Kind of like the person out there that has been divorced 4 or 5 times...eventually you have to look inward at yourself to find out the root of the problem.

:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2

I'd go a step further. It's not even that they are geting what they are asking for, rather I think that it would do the OP an enormous disservice to blow a bunch of pixie dust around when they really need to take a good long look at some serious issues.

:earsboy:

[NHdisneylover]

Sandra--earlier in the thread the topic of employers checking you out online came up. You said you would be hard to find, etc. So, tonight I checked. Of course I do not have a clue what your last name is--but I know when first and last name does not call up anything most people will google first name and a previous employer or position. So I googled "Sandra photopass" (photopass being your most recent, longest held and apparently favourite job). THIS thread comes up on page one. All the talk about how you do not get along with others, discussing considering lying or being misleading about work dates or schooling, etc is super easy to find. PLEASE be careful about what you put out there. I am really not very internet savvy, so if I can find it anyone can.

For the record, I am still not seeing mean spiritedness on this thread--just attempts to truly help. I hope the reason you have not posted much today is becuase you are out there turning in application after aplication and one of those does lead to a job for you.

[SandrA9810]

sorry, I can't read all the posts that have been made since I left last night. I'm on my phone at the moment. But I actually got a job. A few nights ago I went to qdoba for dinner, and the owner guy is always there, so we chatted a bit while he made my food. And afterwards, I asked him if he had any jobs open. He told me they usually do a store shuffle, because he owns nine locations, but afterwards when he knows what his needs are, he'll hire. Usually in a couple months. We'll I went in for lunch today, and he asked if I filled put an app the last time I was there, I told him no. So after eating, me and my friend filled it out. It helps to have some one proof read those things. i gave it to him, he gave me a quick 5 min interview. Then told me to show up on friday at 4pm. I've never dealt with food, except in high school at a concession stand at the panther's arena. But first time for everything, right??
i'm not going to let this topic go to waste, i'll still look for something better and cross my fingers for Disney to call back. But it's a start. I don't know the details like starting pay or hours, but we were sitting in the dining room.

I wish I could relish in the moment for a bit longer, but kari popped that bubble like two hours after, when i told her. I needed to borrow money to get shoes (she pitched a fit). I still need black jeans, so i figured i could use the money out of my change jar that i've been filling for years, and all of sudden, everything has become property of her. So I get a job and loose everything else. Now I don't even know why i'm doing this...

[OrlandoMike]

Now I don't even know why i'm doing this...

Sandra,

I dont know you from Adam, other than this board.

But I just want to tell you this.

You are doing this for YOU! You are at a stage in your life where you have to start taking care of you, plain and simple! Everything you do from now on is about YOU, not anyone else.

By the way, congratulations on the new job! :thumbsup2

[hematite153]

Congratulations Sandra!

Don't let anything get you down; this is an important accomplishment.

Definitely keep looking for something else (after all, you might need this to be one of two part-time jobs) and accept that that the first steps aren't going to seem that exciting (borrowing money for shoes/jeans and having your first pay go to paying that back), but, they are important ones. Splitting up is tough, but, don't let it overshadow the fact that you are doing something that is important.

I also wanted to mention that it sounds like you've gotten a start with a good rapport with this owner. Take advantage of that and be a model employee.
- Show up early for your first shift (if you might have to take the bus plan to leave home for one bus earlier than the one that would get you there 10 min early -- you can always sit on a bench and read a book, but, you can't recover a late arrival).
- Ask questions about anything you don't understand.
- If you hear a co-worker needing to trade shifts or looking for a replacement, volunteer to take it for them (builds good relationships with co-workers and shows the management that you can be relied upon).
- Don't talk about the fact that you would rather get re-hired by Disney nor that you're still looking for other work.
- Offer to work in multiple locations if it will help the owner with scheduling.
- Remember all of the things you've been working on in terms of how you talk about yourself...think positive, be positive, consider yourself capable and confident.

Well done and continue to congratulate yourself on this step.

[bumbershoot]

Congratulations! Funny, I was thinking about my very first job at Jack in the Box...my mom was tired of me asking at the fancy mall places and told me in no uncertain terms that I needed to come home with a job...walked into JintheB and came out with a job. :)


I'm so sorry Kari is being awful. I'm just devastated for you, especially b/c we've had that one conversation about partners and one working...you know I understood where you were coming from, work-wise (and since my favorite job, I quit by email after taking 2 weeks of FMLA time for myself, thanks to a horrible boss that was later fired thanks to the emails I'd saved and printed and gave at my exit interview....then another job I went in before anyone else was there, wrote an email to my coworkers and bosses that I was quitting...I've done what many wish they could do, though NOW I regret it [mainly b/c my DREAM for leaving the first one was to bring in the Office Space version of Take This Job and Shove It on my "boombox" and set it on Ryan's desk while I told everyone the mind games he'd been playing for almost a year, BUT partially b/c I wouldn't mind working there again], I get the hating the management thing as well!)

Obviously she didn't expect you to get this job right out of the gate, and it seems she's punishing you for it. I'm so sorry.



But you have a job! And even if you can't buy the new shoes now, you can probably hobble through for 2 or so weeks until you get your paycheck.

Congratulations!

[NHdisneylover]

Congrats Sandra. You must have presented yourself very well to that manager for him to remember you and ask you to fill in an application. Nice work:thumbsup2 Take Hemetite's advice and keep the ball rolling in yoru favour:goodvibes

[mum4jenn]

AWESOME!!!

Now...Listen to what everyone else has said. You are doing this for YOU and you only. You are old enough to be independent of anyone else and once you get settled in this job and have your OWN money it really will make you feel so good!! Once you see what you are going to be making, make yourself a nice budget and put some of your check into saving for those times when you need more work clothes, a car repair, etc. This is a great time to grow up and depend on Sandra.

Don't blow your money on eating out all the time and buying silly games. You need to work on getting away from your current situation and being on your own or at least with a room mate where you BOTH contribute to the expenses.

Working in a food establishment can be great!! It is never boring and you can learn so much about all kinds of things. Managers of restaurants can make BIG BUCKS even without college ...if you put your mind to it....just concentrate on being a GREAT employee right now.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!:cool1:

[wdwfan16]

Congratulations!!!

I don't think Kari is being horrible to you. She has let you stay in the apartment and use her truck.

Do not quit this job if or when you get a Disney job. You will need a full and part time job to get back on your feet.

Is it the Qdoba by Palm Parkway?

[DVC~OKW~96]

Congratulations Sandra. See? YOU did it. No one else, just YOU. ::yes::

You've had a lot of suggestions made to you here on this thread. Some are going to be valuable to you, some useless. Again that is something for YOU to decide. ::yes::

One more recommendation if you can stand it? Decrease the amount of personal information you share on the internet. ::yes::

No one really needs to know any detail that will enable them to seek you out in real life without your knowledge, eh?

So, good for you, move onward and upward and hopefully 2010 will be your best year yet! ::yes::

[soulmates]

Sandra, I too don't know you, but you ARE doing this for you. Congrats!! You have no choice to but look to your future and depend on you & only you. Dip into that 401k you talked about. Get all the things you need for your new job. That job will hopefully be the begining you need. From here you can only go up!! You can do this girl!! :thumbsup2

Chris

[Broker]

Add nasty, judgmental to that list of "credentials" :rolleyes1

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

Be aware that you will take a big tax hit for taking money out of a 401K. The penalty may be more than it is worth to withdraw the money.

[BelleWDW]

Be aware that you will take a big tax hit for taking money out of a 401K. The penalty may be more than it is worth to withdraw the money.

:confused3

[Broker]

Be aware that you will take a big tax hit for taking money out of a 401K. The penalty may be more than it is worth to withdraw the money.

The IRS penalty for early withdrawal is 10%. If she isn't making any income then her taxable amount would be fairly low. So tax + penalty. In my guesstimation it wouldn't exceed 15%.

[wdwfan16]

The IRS penalty for early withdrawal is 10%. If she isn't making any income then her taxable amount would be fairly low. So tax + penalty. In my guesstimation it wouldn't exceed 15%.

And she NEEDS the job.

[bumbershoot]

Gotta say this....

!!!

I don't think Kari is being horrible to you. She has let you stay in the apartment and use her truck.


OK, they have been together longer than DH and I have been married, and he's been the sole breadwinner since we were only engaged. If suddenly he broke up with me, took up with someone else, and "let me" stay here until I got a job and got out, NO ONE would think that he had NOT been horrible to me. In fact, we did break up for a time while engaged (while I still had a job), and he continued paying his half of the lease (though he moved back to his mom's) and gave me his computer so I'd have a "lifeline" to my online friends, and most people I tell that to think it's disgusting that he left the computer (and shocked that he paid his half of the lease). (I personally understand the computer thing, and it was actually VERY helpful and I'm glad he did it)

So IMO, Kari is being rotten, even though she could be worse.

[wdwfan16]

Gotta say this....



OK, they have been together longer than DH and I have been married, and he's been the sole breadwinner since we were only engaged. If suddenly he broke up with me, took up with someone else, and "let me" stay here until I got a job and got out, NO ONE would think that he had NOT been horrible to me. In fact, we did break up for a time while engaged (while I still had a job), and he continued paying his half of the lease (though he moved back to his mom's) and gave me his computer so I'd have a "lifeline" to my online friends, and most people I tell that to think it's disgusting that he left the computer (and shocked that he paid his half of the lease). (I personally understand the computer thing, and it was actually VERY helpful and I'm glad he did it)

So IMO, Kari is being rotten, even though she could be worse.

Kari finding another while they were still a couple was rotten. The difference with you now and Sandra is that you are legally married (please don't start with the they can't marry stuff. I am all for gay marriage but as of right now it is not legal in FL) so you do own a % of the assets. When you were just engaged he or you could have left or walked out and be owed nothing.

Kari is being nice in that Sandra can still live there and still use the truck. Sandra cannot use Kari's CCs like she use to. I can totally see that. What stops her from buying the pants and shoes and so much more? Kari is on the hook for that new debt.

[rosiep]

Kari finding another while they were still a couple was rotten. The difference with you now and Sandra is that you are legally married (please don't start with the they can't marry stuff. I am all for gay marriage but as of right now it is not legal in FL) so you do own a % of the assets. When you were just engaged he or you could have left or walked out and be owed nothing.

.

That's pretty nervy of you to come to these boards and argue that point!

[zeitzeuge]

That's pretty nervy of you to come to these boards and argue that point!

Honey, after what I've been reading, there's a LOT of nervy people coming to our forum when it comes to this thread. :sad2:

[rpmdfw]

Kari finding another while they were still a couple was rotten. The difference with you now and Sandra is that you are legally married (please don't start with the they can't marry stuff. I am all for gay marriage but as of right now it is not legal in FL) so you do own a % of the assets. When you were just engaged he or you could have left or walked out and be owed nothing.

Kari is being nice in that Sandra can still live there and still use the truck. Sandra cannot use Kari's CCs like she use to. I can totally see that. What stops her from buying the pants and shoes and so much more? Kari is on the hook for that new debt.

When discussing two couples in long term relationships who have merged their finances and both have one "breadwinner" and one "stay at home" partner; to say that the same exact behavior is "horrible" if the couple is straight but "acceptable" if the couple is gay reinforces a double standard and keeps gays and lesbians relegated to second class status in our society. If the behavior is "bad" for legally recognized couples, it's is equally "bad" for those of us whose relationships are recognized only by those who know and respect us.

The thinking that only "legal" recognition is valid recognition and therefore worthy of respectful treatment of our partners (even as the partnership is ending) is reprehensible in my option.

You say that you're "all for gay marriage" but you've indicated that you veiw our relationships as "lesser" than those of straight people.

[wdwfan16]

That's pretty nervy of you to come to these boards and argue that point!

Honey, after what I've been reading, there's a LOT of nervy people coming to our forum when it comes to this thread. :sad2:

When discussing two couples in long term relationships who have merged their finances and both have one "breadwinner" and one "stay at home" partner; to say that the same exact behavior is "horrible" if the couple is straight but "acceptable" if the couple is gay reinforces a double standard and keeps gays and lesbians relegated to second class status in our society. If the behavior is "bad" for legally recognized couples, it's is equally "bad" for those of us whose relationships are recognized only by those who know and respect us.

The thinking that only "legal" recognition is valid recognition and therefore worthy of respectful treatment of our partners (even as the partnership is ending) is reprehensible in my option.

You say that you're "all for gay marriage" but you've indicated that you veiw our relationships as "lesser" than those of straight people.

I do not view your relationship as lesser but at this time the laws are different.

In this relationship is Kari has all the CCs in her name (per something that Sandra posted a while ago). She gets all the debt from spending on them. If they were legally married, and yes I am for it but the fact remains they are not legally married, both would own that debt and the stuff it bought. If they both owned the debt then denying the other access to the money to buy something is wrong. If one gets all the debt then she has protect herself from a financial point of view.

Sandra has money to eat out but not to buy shoes. This particular meal was a lucky break in that it leads to a job but that is not why she went there. Actually she went twice.

From a financial point of view they are like two engaged people. I do not condone cheating, for that Kari was wrong. If two engaged people broke up and the other chose not to give away their CC I would agree with them too. It is a financial decision only.

Sandra has previously said that all the debt is in Kari's name and they don't know how to separate it. One way is for Kari to keep all the debt and all the stuff that the debt bought.

You would really be OK with your exSO eating out when you are at work and then asking you to buy her clothes to go to work? I know I would not. This has nothing to do with sexual orientation but finances only.

[rosiep]

I do not view your relationship as lesser but at this time the laws are different.

.

Hiding behind the "law" does not make your post any more palatable. Segregation laws gave people license to treat other people as inferior to themselves....that's what current laws in our state do today. Using them in any way to support your arguement is reprehensible.

[wdwfan16]

Hiding behind the "law" does not make your post any more palatable. Segregation laws gave people license to treat other people as inferior to themselves....that's what current laws in our state do today. Using them in any way to support your arguement is reprehensible.

I would change the law today if I could but this is the law today and the law will be enforced. Kari could be nicer but she does not have to be. I could kick my DH out today and want to keep everything but the law will not let me. If there was no marriage law of any kind and everything was in my name then I could kick him out and keep everything.

[ms.yt]

I do not view your relationship as lesser but at this time the laws are different.

In this relationship is Kari has all the CCs in her name (per something that Sandra posted a while ago). She gets all the debt from spending on them. If they were legally married, and yes I am for it but the fact remains they are not legally married, both would own that debt and the stuff it bought. If they both owned the debt then denying the other access to the money to buy something is wrong. If one gets all the debt then she has protect herself from a financial point of view.

Sandra has money to eat out but not to buy shoes. This particular meal was a lucky break in that it leads to a job but that is not why she went there. Actually she went twice.

From a financial point of view they are like two engaged people. I do not condone cheating, for that Kari was wrong. If two engaged people broke up and the other chose not to give away their CC I would agree with them too. It is a financial decision only.

Sandra has previously said that all the debt is in Kari's name and they don't know how to separate it. One way is for Kari to keep all the debt and all the stuff that the debt bought.

You would really be OK with your exSO eating out when you are at work and then asking you to buy her clothes to go to work? I know I would not. This has nothing to do with sexual orientation but finances only.

This is the point that needs to be emphasized. Bringing gay marriage into the situation doesn't change the fact that it's ridiculous for Sandra to expect Kari to buy her shoes & clothes for this job. Marriage or no, Kari is being more than generous to her right now. I hope bringing this up isn't going to be Sandra's excuse as to why she couldn't make it to her first day of work.

[rosiep]

I would change the law today if I could but this is the law today and the law will be enforced. Kari could be nicer but she does not have to be. I could kick my DH out today and want to keep everything but the law will not let me. If there was no marriage law of any kind and everything was in my name then I could kick him out and keep everything.

My point is: The OP and her situation aside, evoking the law to prove your point was in very poor taste. You do realize WHERE you're posting right??????

[pudge the fish]

I do know you had a bad experience with workforce in a different county, but things have really changed.
In my job, I am the "help people type" job description & I know we send people there (again not in Orlando, but close:) and they have been able to get vouchers for uniforms and shoes, bus passes, etc.
same place-different county- just one is called workforce and the other onestop. I am glad you found a job!
Just cause one visit was bad.. try them again if you need to!
Best wishes and way to go!:goodvibes

[DVC~OKW~96]

My point is: The OP and her situation aside, evoking the law to prove your point was in very poor taste. You do realize WHERE you're posting right??????

Valid point Rosie. :hug: Yet again, we have people defining marriage as a union sanctioned by law. FWWWWT!

Marriage is a state of togetherness, period. If one couple can stand before a third person and end up with a piece of paper certifying their union that makes that union NO MORE VALID OR LOVING than the couple who are NOT allowed to have that same piece of stinking paper.

Unfortunately, it's the rights that go along with that paper that do make a difference and do hurt those couples who cannot share in those same rights.

This whole thread is really nothing more than thinly veiled insults for the most part. There is a companion thread on that other stupid board where people have nothing better to do than insult others (and like to hide behind the word sarcasm. Unfortunately not one of them would understand true sarcasm if it bit them in the butt).

There are some here who genuinely tried to provide good advice and suggestions. You'll recognize them by the lack of insults in their posts.

If you intend to come here and insult our relationships by delcaring them less than het relationships because they are not "legal" then do expect to have a counterpoint to that argument.

[DVC~OKW~96]

I do know you had a bad experience with workforce in a different county, but things have really changed.
In my job, I am the "help people type" job description & I know we send people there (again not in Orlando, but close:) and they have been able to get vouchers for uniforms and shoes, bus passes, etc.
same place-different county- just one is called workforce and the other onestop. I am glad you found a job!
Just cause one visit was bad.. try them again if you need to!
Best wishes and way to go!:goodvibes

Good info pudge the fish. Nice of you to provide constructive encouragement. Thank you!

[crashbb]

I do know you had a bad experience with workforce in a different county, but things have really changed.
In my job, I am the "help people type" job description & I know we send people there (again not in Orlando, but close:) and they have been able to get vouchers for uniforms and shoes, bus passes, etc.
same place-different county- just one is called workforce and the other onestop. I am glad you found a job!
Just cause one visit was bad.. try them again if you need to!
Best wishes and way to go!:goodvibes

Good suggestion. Heck, sometimes even just talking to a different person at the same place can give you a very different experience.

Sandra - congratulations on the new job.

I know you've had job issues in the past (you've stated it in this thread - I'm not dragging anything up), but hopefully you'll be able to make this one work for you. And, hopefully, the confidence you gain by taking care of yourself, will help you move on from Kari.

[TagsMissy]

And here I thought as the mean man, my responses would not be well received.

I agree too. It's a difficult task to look in the mirror but each of us has to do it at some point in our career/life. Negative feelings only bring negative results.

The job market is tight out there, like others have said you need to be out the door 9-5 networking/applying/researching. It's a full time job finding a job; I've told my friends this as much as I will say it here. There's no shame in flipping burgers, mopping floors or washing dishes; there is however lack of respect for someone watching TV all day moaning they can't find work.

Find what you can find in these times of economic times; it doesn't mean it's a career but at least money will come in and you can continue to search for other employment. And please stick with a job; even if you don't like it until you find and sign on the dotted line for a better job. Even the best jobs in the world, at the best companies in the world aren't always peaches and cream so don't run away then things get tough. :hug:

[TagsMissy]

sorry, I can't read all the posts that have been made since I left last night. I'm on my phone at the moment. But I actually got a job. A few nights ago I went to qdoba for dinner, and the owner guy is always there, so we chatted a bit while he made my food. And afterwards, I asked him if he had any jobs open. He told me they usually do a store shuffle, because he owns nine locations, but afterwards when he knows what his needs are, he'll hire. Usually in a couple months. We'll I went in for lunch today, and he asked if I filled put an app the last time I was there, I told him no. So after eating, me and my friend filled it out. It helps to have some one proof read those things. i gave it to him, he gave me a quick 5 min interview. Then told me to show up on friday at 4pm. I've never dealt with food, except in high school at a concession stand at the panther's arena. But first time for everything, right??
i'm not going to let this topic go to waste, i'll still look for something better and cross my fingers for Disney to call back. But it's a start. I don't know the details like starting pay or hours, but we were sitting in the dining room.

I wish I could relish in the moment for a bit longer, but kari popped that bubble like two hours after, when i told her. I needed to borrow money to get shoes (she pitched a fit). I still need black jeans, so i figured i could use the money out of my change jar that i've been filling for years, and all of sudden, everything has become property of her. So I get a job and loose everything else. Now I don't even know why i'm doing this...

CONGRATULATIONS ON FINDING A JOB! That is fantastic. :goodvibes:goodvibes

[rpmdfw]

I do not view your relationship as lesser but at this time the laws are different.

In this relationship is Kari has all the CCs in her name (per something that Sandra posted a while ago). She gets all the debt from spending on them. If they were legally married, and yes I am for it but the fact remains they are not legally married, both would own that debt and the stuff it bought. If they both owned the debt then denying the other access to the money to buy something is wrong. If one gets all the debt then she has protect herself from a financial point of view.

Sandra has money to eat out but not to buy shoes. This particular meal was a lucky break in that it leads to a job but that is not why she went there. Actually she went twice.

From a financial point of view they are like two engaged people. I do not condone cheating, for that Kari was wrong. If two engaged people broke up and the other chose not to give away their CC I would agree with them too. It is a financial decision only.

Sandra has previously said that all the debt is in Kari's name and they don't know how to separate it. One way is for Kari to keep all the debt and all the stuff that the debt bought.

You would really be OK with your exSO eating out when you are at work and then asking you to buy her clothes to go to work? I know I would not. This has nothing to do with sexual orientation but finances only.

I'm sorry. I haven't read any of Sandra's other posts aside from the ones on this thread. I don't have time to research every post made by another poster and then follow them to a new forum just to pass judgement on their life.

I had no idea about all the debt and credit card issues.

How I think Kari feels about Sandra eating out or buying shoes is irreleveant, however. And none of my business. Or yours. On this thread a fellow GLBT poster asked for our help in finding a job. I chose to focus on that.

You came here and started telling her that her relaitionship isn't as good as yours because she can't legally marry. That's what I saw. And you DID tell her that.

Breaking up with a partner isn't easy to do. Whether it's legal or not. And from what you've told me of Sandra's situation, it sounds like there will be financial and legal issues to be dealt with. Perhaps not "community property" but certainly shared possessions and combined finances. It doesn't sound much different from a divorce to me. Excpet that neither of them has the law to proctect their interests as they face dividing it up.

Why not respect that the end of any relationship (even if it's time to end has come) is tough and painful and not make it MORE difficult by insulting it because it has no legal sanction.

You may believe that we should be able to have marriage rights, but the way you've argued your points about this specific case have come across as insulting to all of us in "non-legal" relationships.

We on the GLBT forum are very welcoming to everyone. Gay or Straight. Some of our most beloved posters (and my personal friends) are the "cool straight people" that post here. We only ask that everyone be respectful of each other.

It seems however that several people with a personal agenda regarding Sandra and Kari have come here to specifically "point and laugh" or judge them. I don't know the specifics, and I don't care. It's none of my business. If you've got a history with either of these ladies, that's your business. But those of us who make our online home at the GLBT forum would ask you all to please leave all of that off of our boards and post here with the mutual respect and open minds that we ask of everyone.

[DVC~OKW~96]

I'm sorry. I haven't read any of Sandra's other posts aside from the ones on this thread. I don't have time to research every post made by another poster and then follow them to a new forum just to pass judgement on their life.

I had no idea about all the debt and credit card issues.

How I think Kari feels about Sandra eating out or buying shoes is irreleveant, however. And none of my business. Or yours. On this thread a fellow GLBT poster asked for our help in finding a job. I chose to focus on that.

You came here and started telling her that her relaitionship isn't as good as yours because she can't legally marry. That's what I saw. And you DID tell her that.

Breaking up with a partner isn't easy to do. Whether it's legal or not. And from what you've told me of Sandra's situation, it sounds like there will be financial and legal issues to be dealt with. Perhaps not "community property" but certainly shared possessions and combined finances. It doesn't sound much different from a divorce to me. Excpet that neither of them has the law to proctect their interests as they face dividing it up.

Why not respect that the end of any relationship (even if it's time to end has come) is tough and painful and not make it MORE difficult by insulting it because it has no legal sanction.

You may believe that we should be able to have marriage rights, but the way you've argued your points about this specific case have come across as insulting to all of us in "non-legal" relationships.

We on the GLBT forum are very welcoming to everyone. Gay or Straight. Some of our most beloved posters (and my personal friends) are the "cool straight people" that post here. We only ask that everyone be respectful of each other.

It seems however that several people with a personal agenda regarding Sandra and Kari have come here to specifically "point and laugh" or judge them. I don't know the specifics, and I don't care. It's none of my business. If you've got a history with either of these ladies, that's your business. But those of us who make our online home at the GLBT forum would ask you all to please leave all of that off of our boards and post here with the mutual respect and open minds that we ask of everyone.

Here, here! :worship::worship::worship:

Thank you Rob! :hug:

[kingLouiethe1]

It seems however that several people with a personal agenda regarding Sandra and Kari have come here to specifically "point and laugh" or judge them. I don't know the specifics, and I don't care. It's none of my business. If you've got a history with either of these ladies, that's your business. But those of us who make our online home at the GLBT forum would ask you all to please leave all of that off of our boards and post here with the mutual respect and open minds that we ask of everyone.

Ditto to that! How did we get so way off topic?

Homegirl's got a job and good for her, let's cheer her on for that :cheer2:

[crashbb]

I just have to add that Qdoba looks yummy - I'd never heard of it before (we don't have it where I live) so I Googled it.

Looks like it could be fun to work there.

Congratulations again.

[SandrA9810]

i've only read page 7 and 8... And mike, there seems to be controversy on here, but please don't close it.

Zeit... Sorry about the harsh comments in here. It follows me and i'm used to it.

both meals were free actually. The first time when i asked about the job, the card declined and he gave it to me on the house. And I went there with the sole purpose of asking for the job, but it was a nice ice breaker to talk to him while he made my food. But it took about a 1\2 hr after eating to work up the courage to as him if i could have a job. The second time, i was with my friend, who goes there all the time, and he buys my meals for me. He's actually been feeding me a lot in the past few months. He likes eating out, and it's sorta a social thing, so he tags me along.


The arguements have escalted further, so tomorrow i'm moving out. I don't know where i'm going to go, but hopefully 36hrs is enough time to walk there. Yes it is the qdoba on palm pkwy, and here is like 20 miles away.
I only know of one bus that goes that far west from here, the 56, but magic kingdom is still miles away from there, i could take the DTD hotel shuttle to the last hotel. Those don't run on any sorta schedule. So i wouldn't even know how early to leave to make it work.

She will get amost everything the debt has boought, that is of actual stuff. Meals, hotel stays, annual passes to disney, can't really give that back. At the same time, i was contributing to paying it off for a long time. Most of it is not current "for me only" things. Except the food that i have eaten, but i've just been waiting for my friend to take me out to eat lately.
but i can't really even call him a friend anymore, because he'd rather side on kari's side, even tonight.

I don't know what to do now or where to go?? I'd rather call it quits on everything.

[SandrA9810]

youi guys seem much more excited than i am.

[kingLouiethe1]

youi guys seem much more excited than i am.

I'm sorry times are tough right now.

I will tell you though something you're probably well aware of, and that is that life is a struggle. It's not until recently that I feel like I am not fighting to survive, and I got here by working for some pretty unpleasant people, and doing lots of jobs that most people wouldn't really like.

If we're excited. it's because we recognize the opportunity you've got in front of you. You put something out in the universe, the desire for a job. Your prayer was answered, and now you have to take it make something with it.

One day at a time all these things are going to be moving past you, and you have to realize that every moment from now on is a decision you have to make, and that every small decision you make is going to add up to your life.

Good luck!

[TagsMissy]

youi guys seem much more excited than i am.

you should be excited. It's a great feeling to get a job, especially when you've hit it off so well with the boss that he offered you the job pretty much nearly on the spot :) :thumbsup2 This is a new beginning for you; not an easy one but a new one. And I do believe there is much more satisfaction in seeing success through diversity so remember to keep your chin up. :wizard:

[wallyb]

I'm sorry. I haven't read any of Sandra's other posts aside from the ones on this thread. I don't have time to research every post made by another poster and then follow them to a new forum just to pass judgement on their life.

I had no idea about all the debt and credit card issues.

How I think Kari feels about Sandra eating out or buying shoes is irreleveant, however. And none of my business. Or yours. On this thread a fellow GLBT poster asked for our help in finding a job. I chose to focus on that.

You came here and started telling her that her relaitionship isn't as good as yours because she can't legally marry. That's what I saw. And you DID tell her that.

Breaking up with a partner isn't easy to do. Whether it's legal or not. And from what you've told me of Sandra's situation, it sounds like there will be financial and legal issues to be dealt with. Perhaps not "community property" but certainly shared possessions and combined finances. It doesn't sound much different from a divorce to me. Excpet that neither of them has the law to proctect their interests as they face dividing it up.

Why not respect that the end of any relationship (even if it's time to end has come) is tough and painful and not make it MORE difficult by insulting it because it has no legal sanction.

You may believe that we should be able to have marriage rights, but the way you've argued your points about this specific case have come across as insulting to all of us in "non-legal" relationships.

We on the GLBT forum are very welcoming to everyone. Gay or Straight. Some of our most beloved posters (and my personal friends) are the "cool straight people" that post here. We only ask that everyone be respectful of each other.

It seems however that several people with a personal agenda regarding Sandra and Kari have come here to specifically "point and laugh" or judge them. I don't know the specifics, and I don't care. It's none of my business. If you've got a history with either of these ladies, that's your business. But those of us who make our online home at the GLBT forum would ask you all to please leave all of that off of our boards and post here with the mutual respect and open minds that we ask of everyone.

Seconded!
Haters hit the road!

[hematite153]

youi guys seem much more excited than i am.

I think it's a combination of things. (1) We remember being where you are and know how important the steps you're describing were and (2) we aren't personally stuck in the emotional mess of your breakup.

One of the things I've noticed from the outside is that you're linking your jobhunt to the end of your relationship. While splitting up may well have been what pushed you to this at this moment in time, they really are different things.

I am sorry that you and Kari are splitting up with such difficulty and that the decision to do so wasn't mutual. I am sorry about all of the things you are losing. If you can, though, try to remember that these things have already happened and that you've already lost everything that had to do with the relationship -- I know that it's brutally hard to realize this because we always have a desperate hope to turn back time.

Finding a job for yourself could be a shining star in the midst of a dark time and the job itself has the potential for that as well. The job is all about you and not about Kari. I really hope that you have a good first shift and I hope you find a safe place to live. (Remember, there's no shame in walking to work, nor in living somewhere temporary while you get things together.)

[wdwfan16]

My point is: The OP and her situation aside, evoking the law to prove your point was in very poor taste. You do realize WHERE you're posting right??????

Yes on a thread helping another DISer get the right attitude to get the job she needs. I gave her advise all throught this thread. What advise did you give?

She seems do down on herself that she could cost herself the job she got

[wdwfan16]

Valid point Rosie. :hug: Yet again, we have people defining marriage as a union sanctioned by law. FWWWWT!

Marriage is a state of togetherness, period. If one couple can stand before a third person and end up with a piece of paper certifying their union that makes that union NO MORE VALID OR LOVING than the couple who are NOT allowed to have that same piece of stinking paper.

Unfortunately, it's the rights that go along with that paper that do make a difference and do hurt those couples who cannot share in those same rights.

I agree with everything you said here.

I know Sandra from the BB and have given her advice there too.


There are some here who genuinely tried to provide good advice and suggestions. You'll recognize them by the lack of insults in their posts.

And I was one of them.

If you intend to come here and insult our relationships by delcaring them less than het relationships because they are not "legal" then do expect to have a counterpoint to that argument.

I did not. I came her to help her with the job she needs. If she started this exact thread on the BB I would have given her the same advice.

[wdwfan16]

I'm sorry. I haven't read any of Sandra's other posts aside from the ones on this thread. I don't have time to research every post made by another poster and then follow them to a new forum just to pass judgement on their life.

I had no idea about all the debt and credit card issues.

How I think Kari feels about Sandra eating out or buying shoes is irreleveant, however. And none of my business. Or yours. On this thread a fellow GLBT poster asked for our help in finding a job. I chose to focus on that.

You came here and started telling her that her relaitionship isn't as good as yours because she can't legally marry. That's what I saw. And you DID tell her that.

Breaking up with a partner isn't easy to do. Whether it's legal or not. And from what you've told me of Sandra's situation, it sounds like there will be financial and legal issues to be dealt with. Perhaps not "community property" but certainly shared possessions and combined finances. It doesn't sound much different from a divorce to me. Excpet that neither of them has the law to proctect their interests as they face dividing it up.

Why not respect that the end of any relationship (even if it's time to end has come) is tough and painful and not make it MORE difficult by insulting it because it has no legal sanction.

You may believe that we should be able to have marriage rights, but the way you've argued your points about this specific case have come across as insulting to all of us in "non-legal" relationships.

We on the GLBT forum are very welcoming to everyone. Gay or Straight. Some of our most beloved posters (and my personal friends) are the "cool straight people" that post here. We only ask that everyone be respectful of each other.

It seems however that several people with a personal agenda regarding Sandra and Kari have come here to specifically "point and laugh" or judge them. I don't know the specifics, and I don't care. It's none of my business. If you've got a history with either of these ladies, that's your business. But those of us who make our online home at the GLBT forum would ask you all to please leave all of that off of our boards and post here with the mutual respect and open minds that we ask of everyone.


Did you read my first post on this thread?

I will quote it for you. Where did I bash her? I gave sound advise.

"If you cannot remember the name of the direct supervisor just give the corporate number of the company.

When we were at WDW later last year the Bahama Breeze was hiring.

You need a full time job so you can get a clunker that you can use to get to work.

Have you considered moving in with your mother or back with your aunt? It may not be what you want but it maybe what is needed right now.

Why did Disney let you go? Did you collect unemployment? Why do you clash with management. Do what they tell you and keep your mouth shut.

I think the best way is the temp agency. They will get your foot in at companies. Eventually one foot will result in a new job.

I read the rest of your reply. If you interview like you reply here I can see why you don't get the job. You come across as very negative and not a go getter. You need to show them WHY they should pick you over the others. You also need to fix you attitude about management.

BTW many time one goes to work even when the "hate it". They do it for their family and realize that all jobs change over time. Some jobs will get worse and then get better again. Sometimes the "hatred of a job" is really the negativeness of the person and not the job. "


I agree that then end of any relationship is hard and even harder when you hear "I found somebody else.".

[wdwfan16]

The arguements have escalted further, so tomorrow i'm moving out. I don't know where i'm going to go, but hopefully 36hrs is enough time to walk there. Yes it is the qdoba on palm pkwy, and here is like 20 miles away.
I only know of one bus that goes that far west from here, the 56, but magic kingdom is still miles away from there, i could take the DTD hotel shuttle to the last hotel. Those don't run on any sorta schedule. So i wouldn't even know how early to leave to make it work.

I don't know what to do now or where to go?? I'd rather call it quits on everything.

Do you have a local friend who you could go to for a short time. Is there some type of mission in your area. Where I live we have a mission and you can stay there with a job. They get you the clothes you need, for free, and transportation to the job. Do NOT quit this job before you even start. This job is the stepping stone you need to start your new life. This job could lead to a store manager job, since the owner has 9 stores, and then who knows what else could come of it.

If you name is on the lease then you cannot be kicked out of your apartment. Do not leave with no place to go.

[wdwfan16]

youi guys seem much more excited than i am.

Considering the job market in the Orlando area securing any job is an accomplishment. It is also at a place where you get along with the manager. You took the first baby step toward your new life so be proud of yourself.

[BelleWDW]

I do know you had a bad experience with workforce in a different county, but things have really changed.
In my job, I am the "help people type" job description & I know we send people there (again not in Orlando, but close:) and they have been able to get vouchers for uniforms and shoes, bus passes, etc.
same place-different county-

just one is called workforce and the other onestop. I am glad you found a job!
Just cause one visit was bad.. try them again if you need to!
Best wishes and way to go!:goodvibes

Sandra read this!!!

[pudge the fish]

I posted this on page 5 - reposting not to be annoying but in case Sandra needed the addresses again or phone numbers- Also for anyone looking for work in Orlando- this may help?

ok- I work in Non -profit and send people to these places all the time-
(Not in Orlando but kinda close
Workforce Central Florida

Orange County 5166 East Colonial Drive
Orlando, FL, 32803
(407)531-1227
East Orange County WORKFORCE CENTRAL FLORIDA
Open Mon-Thur 8-6 and Fri 8-5

Osceola County 1392 East Vine St.
Kissimmee, FL, 34744
(407)705-1555 Osceola WORKFORCE CENTRAL FLORIDA
Open Mon-Thur 8-6 and Fri 8-5

http://www.workforcecentralflorida.c...s/services.asp

These places will help you (FOR FREE) with applications- what to write and even help you and print (for FREE) a resume.
You can get vouchers for an outfit or two to help in job hunting and they will also give you gas vouchers ( possible bus vouchers- not sure of Orlando on buses) to help you look for a job. They also have job listings & training services. they also have career assessments to see what type of job you fit best into.
These places are here to help you and are wonderful resources for first time job seekers- even if you have had jobs, we (in my report) would consider you a first time/(newbie job seeker.- I don't work for these places- I am in a non profit, but my job is to point people to places that can help them:)
I hope this helps-
I know that people who go thru the one stops/workforce centers have better luck finding work than just walking in and filling out an application.
Best Wishes
There is also : http://cfec.org/ in Orlando ((Hugs)) Pudge:)

[Broker]

I don't really know what's going on here anymore. Looks like a big pity party though so I'm out. Sorry the advice given (and good advice) seems to be falling on deaf ears.

[wallyb]

I don't really know what's going on here anymore. Looks like a big pity party though so I'm out. Sorry the advice given (and good advice) seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Bye.:wave2:
Don't let the door hit ya.

[jenn&nelsonrego]

Bye.:wave2:
Don't let the door hit ya.

Wally,

I heart you. Alot. :love:

Kisses and Hugs,
Jenn

[wallyb]

Wally,

I heart you. Alot. :love:

Kisses and Hugs,
Jenn

Thank you Fair Jenn! ;)
Guess we're just not bitter enough for the "real world".
However will we survive!?! :eek:

[NHdisneylover]

OMG, I take the kids swimmign for the day and come home to see th thread has taken on an aspect I would have never expected:eek::sad2: I think I will just keep out of the marraige debate part of things because so many others here have said it much better than I could.

Sandra--I hope you "catch" our excitement for you. I am sure it is really, really hard getting excited about anything as your relationship ends:hug: I am very, very sorry about that. I HAVE seen some of your previous posts (you are very memorable) and I suspect (as is generally the case) that there is a ton of history with you and Kari that none of us can never fully understand and that you are both hurting. It has GOT to be tough--and scary for you when you do not know where you are going to live, how you will pay the bills, etc. I am so sorry you are going through that fear and the heartbreak of a break up, all the at the same time. I am proud of you for realizing (as you posted early on) that many of your previous job woes were related to your own attitude and being willing to work on that. It is very hard to see these things in our selves and harder yet to look for them when we are hurting emotionally. We are excited for you, because we are removed enough from your fear and heartbreak to be able to see clearly just what a great chance you have to turn things around in your life with the new job and we all know how tough the job market is these days. I was truly afraid you might go several weeks with no offers. Seeing that you made an impression and landed a job this quickly IS exciting. I HOPE you can find a way to feel some of the excitement we feel and project that at work tomorrow. It will be very good for your future if you do.

Also, I can't help but worry about all the information you are putting online. From your posts upthread it sounds like you have people here (or on other boards) who are really paying attention to your posts and giving you a hard time. If that is the case, posting where and when you will be working seems like it could be a dangerous thing to do. Please, as a mom thinking about what I would want someone to tell my daughter, I implore you to go back and remove that information from your posts.

Best of luck tomorrow. Get in there and prove to yourself that you can do this:goodvibes It will make you feel better.

[DVC~OKW~96]

Bye.:wave2:
Don't let the door hit ya.

:worship:

[hematite153]

Sandra--I hope you "catch" our excitement for you. I am sure it is really, really hard getting excited about anything as your relationship ends:hug: I am very, very sorry about that. I HAVE seen some of your previous posts (you are very memorable) and I suspect (as is generally the case) that there is a ton of history with you and Kari that none of us can never fully understand and that you are both hurting. It has GOT to be tough--and scary for you when you do not know where you are going to live, how you will pay the bills, etc. I am so sorry you are going through that fear and the heartbreak of a break up, all the at the same time. I am proud of you for realizing (as you posted early on) that many of your previous job woes were related to your own attitude and being willing to work on that. It is very hard to see these things in our selves and harder yet to look for them when we are hurting emotionally. We are excited for you, because we are removed enough from your fear and heartbreak to be able to see clearly just what a great chance you have to turn things around in your life with the new job and we all know how tough the job market is these days. I was truly afraid you might go several weeks with no offers. Seeing that you made an impression and landed a job this quickly IS exciting. I HOPE you can find a way to feel some of the excitement we feel and project that at work tomorrow. It will be very good for your future if you do.


::yes::

[SandrA9810]

had my first two hours of orentation... Ok that looks be spelled completly wrong... Any case. The past couple of days were really unexpected... This is not the time or place to explain. But my sister drove up from st lucie to get me to work on time. I showed up like 3 mins late, i'll blame it on thje stupid light. It's an exciting and scary at the same time. He has high expectations... Which i like in a way because it gives me something to live up to and keeps every one else in line. I always hated the low expectations with kissers to get what they wanted.

Pay is min, which i expected. And hours depend on how hard i work. He schedule those that are good 40hrs, so you know your ranking by that. Plus it seems people like to trade shifts too.

Time to go research the menu... I only eat quesadillas here. But our first week we get a free meal every day to taste what things are.

Thanks for the support. I need it.
Ohh and any one that eats here often, send me a PM wit our name and favorite dish. I have to know at least 20 regulars.

[TuckandStuiesMom]

Congratulations, Sandra!:thumbsup2

[hematite153]

Congratulations...sounds like a fantastic opportunity. Do everything you can to live up to the high expectations and you'll be able to turn this into a good climbing point.

[BelleWDW]

had my first two hours of orentation... Ok that looks be spelled completly wrong... Any case. The past couple of days were really unexpected... This is not the time or place to explain. But my sister drove up from st lucie to get me to work on time. I showed up like 3 mins late, i'll blame it on thje stupid light. It's an exciting and scary at the same time. He has high expectations... Which i like in a way because it gives me something to live up to and keeps every one else in line. I always hated the low expectations with kissers to get what they wanted.

Pay is min, which i expected. And hours depend on how hard i work. He schedule those that are good 40hrs, so you know your ranking by that. Plus it seems people like to trade shifts too.

Time to go research the menu... I only eat quesadillas here. But our first week we get a free meal every day to taste what things are.

Thanks for the support. I need it.
Ohh and any one that eats here often, send me a PM wit our name and favorite dish. I have to know at least 20 regulars.

Great that they let you taste the food!
My Son was a waiter and they NEVER let him taste the food-so he'd just lie and say everything was great;)

Good luck!

[SandrA9810]

wi fi on a phone is so addicting. Thankfully i'm at a free wi fi spot now. So yay i can break away from the real world and the craziness of it.

I think its great he lets us try the different stuff. But i'm also kinda picky about mexican food, that i really don't like most the extra topping stuff. But i will try all the meats, thats the most important part of most the things served there.
And i love the dress code. Jeans.... And a t-shirt. I just need to get more pants, cause
i've outgrown a lot of my old clothing and i can't take kari's stuff anymore. It's crazy though, that means one days worth of pay for each pair. I'm only scheduled right now 3hrs each day for training. But i'll have 6hrs this week and 9hrs next week.
There was one other guy hired with me, but he's got a cheating advantage because he worked for one location that closed down, from lack of business. And this store is the highest volume store in orlando out of 6 or 9 locations. On christmas eve, they did a special for those with the club card thing, any one that had one got a free burrito. Apparently they did 2 days worth of business in 4hrs. That's insane.

I just keep thinking..... I shouldn't be scared... I shouldn't be scared.... Don't be scared.

Once i get everyting settled, i'll start looking for a second job. That way i can figure out the best places close by. It's going to be a nightmare some days as it is, i don't want to double up on craziness of trying to get around. and maybe once my aunt feels confident about my job status, she'll co-sign on a car for me. Maybe if she moves here, she can buy herself a new car and i'll give her what the dealer would as a trade in. It's like 8 yrs old, but still under a 100k miles on it, and runs perfectly, but i hate cars.. I like trucks and vans because of the height thing. But something is better than nothing, and i did drive it 2,000 miles on our road trip... I refused to do the last 1,000 on it back to texas.

I think thats all for now.

[mum4jenn]

Don't be scared. I know it is intimidating right now but just be a sponge. Soak up all the info you can and find somone who you can shadow that will show you the patience to help you learn everything.

Remember that everyone has had to learn and start at the bottom somewhere.

[NHdisneylover]

How great of yoru sister do come up and help you get to your first day:goodvibes Hopefully you can find a place to stay near your new work, or near a bus that gets you there.

I am glad it went well. Plan to arrive 15 minutes early from now (so things like lights do not make you late) and meet (or even exceed) those high expectations. You can do it if you put your mind to it.

As long as you have a couple of decent pairs of jeans they should get you through until you have a few paychecks. If you only wear them for the time you are at work you may be able to rewear a pair before washing. You can always wash a pair in the bathtub and hang it to dry and wear the other pair the next day. It is kind of a pain, but it will get you by until you have made enough to get a decent place to stay.

It is great that you get meals the first week. With money being tight that will help you on grocery spending.

Congrats on a successful first day:thumbsup2

[SandrA9810]

well i've finished 3 days so far. The first day I learned how to make the burritos. And I'm actually really good at measuring a scoop. Each meat has certain amount for different things. So every day, you grab out the scale, and test how you're doing. The first couple of times were way off, but now i'm actually hitting it on the mark.

I really need to get used to the heat of the tortillas after coming out of the steamer. I can usually get it out, but by the time I have it over the foil I'm ready to drop it.

I've got the next two days off, and when I go in on Friday, I'll get my first paycheck... woot 6 whole hours.

[wdwfan16]

well i've finished 3 days so far. The first day I learned how to make the burritos. And I'm actually really good at measuring a scoop. Each meat has certain amount for different things. So every day, you grab out the scale, and test how you're doing. The first couple of times were way off, but now i'm actually hitting it on the mark.

I really need to get used to the heat of the tortillas after coming out of the steamer. I can usually get it out, but by the time I have it over the foil I'm ready to drop it.

I've got the next two days off, and when I go in on Friday, I'll get my first paycheck... woot 6 whole hours.

Think of this as a baby step.

How are you getting to work?

[crashbb]

well i've finished 3 days so far. The first day I learned how to make the burritos. And I'm actually really good at measuring a scoop. Each meat has certain amount for different things. So every day, you grab out the scale, and test how you're doing. The first couple of times were way off, but now i'm actually hitting it on the mark.

I really need to get used to the heat of the tortillas after coming out of the steamer. I can usually get it out, but by the time I have it over the foil I'm ready to drop it.

I've got the next two days off, and when I go in on Friday, I'll get my first paycheck... woot 6 whole hours.

Don't think of it as only 6 hours, think of it as your first pay check in a long time and your first step.

Congratulations.

[NHdisneylover]

6 hours is a lot better than nothing--and it should turn into more soon.
Thanks for the update:goodvibes I was wondering how it was going.

[wallyb]

Keep going - Attitude\ enthusiasm, Manners, Work ethic, It all matters. :thumbsup2

[mum4jenn]

Sounds l;ike you are getting the hang of it!! Don't worry about the heat...soon enough you will have your hands conditioned enough where you will not even notice.

Continue to learn, be eager to learn, and try to always get there on time. The paychecks will get better.

[DVC~OKW~96]

"The asbestos hands of a chef." ::yes::

Sounds like you are off to a good start! Keep on going girl! :thumbsup2

[SandrA9810]

I walk down to the end of our street 1/2 mile. Then hop on a bus that goes to the end of that street, where the 56 (magic kingdom) bus picks up at. Get off at the TTC, take the DTD resort shuttle to the last stop, and then walk the 3-4 blocks to qdoba. My aunt is sending me a check so I can get a month bus pass (4$ a day to take the bus).
It's a pain, but it's the only way to get there. There is no other bus that goes north from 192. I've been showing up 15mins early, and only having to leave 3hrs early. I haven't meet any one that lives remotely close to Kissimmee.

[wdwfan16]

I walk down to the end of our street 1/2 mile. Then hop on a bus that goes to the end of that street, where the 56 (magic kingdom) bus picks up at. Get off at the TTC, take the DTD resort shuttle to the last stop, and then walk the 3-4 blocks to qdoba. My aunt is sending me a check so I can get a month bus pass (4$ a day to take the bus).
It's a pain, but it's the only way to get there. There is no other bus that goes north from 192. I've been showing up 15mins early, and only having to leave 3hrs early. I haven't meet any one that lives remotely close to Kissimmee.

I am glad that you are able to use the bus. Eventually you can move to a place where the bus is easier for you.

That is nice that your Aunt is buying your a monthly bus pass.

[SandrA9810]

so i'm doing alright... But as always.. I'm slow. Always have been always will be. It usually takes me months to get up to speed like every one else.

i like working the lunch shift because it's easier to get to. And i wouldn't have a way home if i worked till closing because the bus doesn't run that late. But lunch is the busiest time.

I still pause and think when i go to make an order... Which is generally the first couple times till i get in the swing of it. But he doesn't trust me to keep up with the lunch rush, so i get booted to the lobby. Which really doesn't require monitoring, usually every 20 mins or so a sweep through. So i do take my time as to not stand around, because if i ask if there's anything else to do, i'm told no.
The first day i did get overwhelmed, but now i know all the things that need to get done.
Today i got to try my hand at cutting lettuce... Again really slow. It took me like a half hour to do something that's only supposed to take five minutes. My biggest problem was wearing the chainmill glove over a glove, with another large glove on top, and i kept cutting the tip off because it was too big. It only took my like three or four heads of lettuce to figure out my groove. His way wasn't exactly working for me.

I also got to make pico. Of course i was slow at it. But a lot better than the lettuce. And i had help from another co-worker. I wish it was him training me as he seems to have patience with my speed.

It's still frustrating hearing... You're good at what you do, you're just slow. And of course i'm not going to get better without practice, but lunch rush is not the time to practice. So i get the few straglers.

I want to be good enough.

[DVC~OKW~96]

You are good enough. Practice, and don't give up. Keep doing the same task, and you WILL get faster.

Yes, speed is important in many, many positions, so you'll learn to be fast!

[mum4jenn]

HAng in there...do NOT give up. Every day continue to ask if there is anything you help with. Eventually they will build up their trust with you and the more you get to do a task the better you will get. Wow I remember things I was taught when I first worked in a school kitchen and I was ready to walk out at times but I stuck with it. I STILL can't make bread to save my life but I can do anything else!! Even way back in the 80's when I was a manager with Wendy's... I remember my training and I kept getting drilled on sizes of pans, temperatures of things, hold times on those things.... there was so much to remember but I was determined to do it. I took notes and studied those notes every single day and then one day when I was being drilled for answers I got every single answer correct without any hesitation. I did not think that day would ever come but then once I showed them I was no dummy they left me alone!!

[wdwfan16]

Self-speak is very important. Stop telling yourself you are not good enough. Tell yourself you can do it and you will do it. You will live up to or down to your own expectations.

[soulmates]

Self-speak is very important. Stop telling yourself you are not good enough. Tell yourself you can do it and you will do it. You will live up to or down to your own expectations.

I SOOOO agree with this statement!! I've read THE SECRET and SO believe the main principals.:) Don't speak negative words, they WILL come to pass. Only speak positive things. I remember years ago, my 1st job interview after being a stay @ home mom for awhile. My sister who was in the corporate world, told me DURING my interview, to tell myself, "I"m SO kicking *** in this interveiw". :woohoo:It worked. I totally believed I was doing well. Later, after I was hired, the hiring supervisor was at our bank, and she told me, my interview was on the the best she'd ever done. I've remembered that to this day. There is MUCH power in what we think and say! :thumbsup2

[NHdisneylover]

Hang in there Sandra. Keep working hard at whatever tasks they do give you and practicing when you can and you'll be okay. Maybe when you are on lobby duty you can concentrate on being friendly to the customers and building up some raport with the regulars. I know you say you are not a people person, but it shows some enthusiasm which is good. Of course, if you see anything that needs doing out there just do it without asking if you should.
I agree that you need to think to yourself that you can. Visualize yourself cutting the lettuce correctly and quickly (it wil help you "learn" the movements too), keeping up with the lunch rush, etc.
Thanks for the update too:goodvibes I was wondering how it was going for you.

[TuckandStuiesMom]

Just keep at it! Sooner or later (usually sooner :) ) a Heartfelt desire to do better translates into the act of doing better. :thumbsup2 YOU CAN DO IT!

[SandrA9810]

i have the desire to be better and all, and i try to keep a positive outlook on it all.
Just being told "you're good, but you're slow"... Is just one of those things i hate hearing. I've litterally been hearing it all my life, at school at previous jobs. I don't really know how to physically speed up when i feel like i'm going as fast as i can. That's why i enjoy drivng so much. It's not about me, it's about how fast i can make the car go. I can keep up with the rest. I even get yelled at for walking too slow, any faster and i'm jogging. It's just a sore spot i guess. It might have something to do with my thought process of thinking and then doing. I've gotten faster at reading which only helps a little.

I'm good with numbers, so i remember most of the serving sizes, temp ranges, and such. I took a pre quiz and sometime this week or next i'll be taking the real test on line serving.

Hopefully i can be some what good at the register. But until i remember where all the function keys are... I'll still be slow at it.

[NHdisneylover]

This may sound odd, and I fully admit I ran register about 20 years ago, but at my first job I really wanted to get better on the register which had about a gazilllion keys (or so it seemd when I was trying to get a customer through that first day on it:rotfl:). I went in early the next shift and stood to the side by the register (off the clock) and drew myself a chart of where all the keys were. I made a rough sketch there and then at home I actualy tried to make it the correct size and look decent and I "practiced" on that chart for a few days. Totally silly but I did so much better on register the next time. You may try something like that if it is worrying you.
I'm sure you'll get the hang of things. You just have to keep at it long enough to build up the confidence to do it quickly.
I am glad you are working on keeping a positive attitude:goodvibes

[wdwfan16]

i have the desire to be better and all, and i try to keep a positive outlook on it all.
Just being told "you're good, but you're slow"... Is just one of those things i hate hearing. I've litterally been hearing it all my life, at school at previous jobs. I don't really know how to physically speed up when i feel like i'm going as fast as i can. That's why i enjoy drivng so much. It's not about me, it's about how fast i can make the car go. I can keep up with the rest. I even get yelled at for walking too slow, any faster and i'm jogging. It's just a sore spot i guess. It might have something to do with my thought process of thinking and then doing. I've gotten faster at reading which only helps a little.

I'm good with numbers, so i remember most of the serving sizes, temp ranges, and such. I took a pre quiz and sometime this week or next i'll be taking the real test on line serving.

Hopefully i can be some what good at the register. But until i remember where all the function keys are... I'll still be slow at it.

Have you considered getting a CDL license?

[SandrA9810]

my past would prevent me from getting a driving job as to why i've avoided them all together.

[SandrA9810]

went from five days... To four days... To three days next week. A whole whopping 8hrs. And one of the shift managers is going to another store. Although the person i think is replacing him is nice too.
I just don't feel like i'm cut out for this job. I'm not fast enough. And the only thing i get stuck doing is cleaning the lobby. Which i know needs to get done, but it doesn't give me a chance to be good at anything else. And the manager still always finds something wrong with my work. I took the job for the wrong reasons and i tried to find my own reasons for staying, but i'm not having any luck. And a few hundred dollars a month isn't going to do me any good.

[rpmdfw]

went from five days... To four days... To three days next week. A whole whopping 8hrs. And one of the shift managers is going to another store. Although the person i think is replacing him is nice too.
I just don't feel like i'm cut out for this job. I'm not fast enough. And the only thing i get stuck doing is cleaning the lobby. Which i know needs to get done, but it doesn't give me a chance to be good at anything else. And the manager still always finds something wrong with my work. I took the job for the wrong reasons and i tried to find my own reasons for staying, but i'm not having any luck. And a few hundred dollars a month isn't going to do me any good.

A few hundred dollars a month is better than no income at all. Suck it up and stick with it until you find something else. Where else have you applied?

[SandrA9810]

i haven't applied anywhere else yet. This whole bus thing takes up so much time that it would be hard to work two shifts in one day. Plus i gave full availabilty hoping to increase my chance of hours. And the schedule starting monday is released on friday. So it doesn't give me anytime to work with a second job. Unless i quit this one entirely.
I had a talk with one of the shift managers, who's happily optimistic about everything. And says she understands how i feel at the moment, and thinks i can gain more hours. So we'll see how this week goes, and see what next week schedule looks like.

I just don't think she gets who i am, and doesn't understand that i won't be as fast as they need me to be.

If every day wasn't a guessing game of how i'm going to get to work, i'd be more apt to apply some place else.

[enigmaMN]

I just don't think she gets who i am, and doesn't understand that i won't be as fast as they need me to be..

Sandra, once upon a time I worked in the food service industry as well. I never thought I'd be fast enough, etc. I just know I'd never get it. It turns out... it DOES happen. It takes time. There are a ton of things to remember, etc. and it won't happen overnight. Be patient, eager and willing to learn - you'll get there. Do your best and keep a smile on your face. :)

[rpmdfw]

i haven't applied anywhere else yet. This whole bus thing takes up so much time that it would be hard to work two shifts in one day. Plus i gave full availabilty hoping to increase my chance of hours. And the schedule starting monday is released on friday. So it doesn't give me anytime to work with a second job. Unless i quit this one entirely.
I had a talk with one of the shift managers, who's happily optimistic about everything. And says she understands how i feel at the moment, and thinks i can gain more hours. So we'll see how this week goes, and see what next week schedule looks like.

I just don't think she gets who i am, and doesn't understand that i won't be as fast as they need me to be.

If every day wasn't a guessing game of how i'm going to get to work, i'd be more apt to apply some place else.

You only worked 4 days and you don't have time to look for other jobs?

If the bus thing is what's difficult, look for jobs close to home or close to the current job, that way working two shifts is possible.

You have to WORK at finding a job. Treat the job search like a full 8 hour a day job on days that you're not working. Otherwise you're just not trying hard enough.

If you're only working 8 hours next week, spend the rest of the time filling out applications in other places. Deal with any schedule conflicts as they come up, but let them know that your lack of hours forced you to look for something else. They have to understand that 8 hours a week isn't enough to live on.

[daisyx3]

I just don't think she gets who i am, and doesn't understand that i won't be as fast as they need me to be.

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That sentence says a lot for me. This job is not going to revolve around you. If you aren't fast, get faster. Even your nice supervisors won't care "who you are" if you aren't doing the job--you'll be down to 6,then 4, then 2 hours next!
My 17 year old has worked at a pizza place for 18 months. The first month or two they would send her home after an hour sometimes. It's how they weed out the kids who aren't serious. Now she gets 12-15 hours a week (her max with school). If she'd given up, God knows where she'd be working now.
If you've already given up and told yourself you'll never be what they really need, do them a favor and quit now. Otherwise, suck it up, do what you're told, and quit whining.
Daisyx3

[NHdisneylover]

Sandra I don't think you took the job for "the wrong reasons." You are broke, were unemployed and have a dismall work history (that is why you started the thread isn't it:confused3) and even in this terrible economy you managed to land something. That rocks:cheer2:

I can imagine that cleaning the lobby a few hours a week is not where you WANT to be right now, but I think it may be where you NEED to be. You need to stay put at one place for a decent length of time so you can build up some good work history. Just about anywhere you will have to start at the bottom (everyone does) and that is cleaning the lobby for now. So do it well, show up on time, work hard to impress your boss and co workers with your dedication and you will be okay. It will take a long time to get all the skills and speed down. That is normal. Goodness, I think you have only worked 25 or so hours--no way to learn it all so quickly. You just have to keep working on it and believe that you can do it and it will come:hug:

I agree with the PP that you saying they don't get who you are is part of the problem. This is an entry level job for an unskilled worker. Who you are to your boss is an employee. Just that. You're goal is to become a a GOOD employee in their eyes. Beyond that, your boss really does not need to get to know you or your personality beyond the work enviornment. It is your responsiblity to fit yourself to the job not your boss's responsiblity to make the job fit you. You need a job and in order to keep one you are going to need to work on getting who your employer is and not worrying about what you want to do. Lots of jobs (especially early in one's working career while building up a resume) are not fun or interesting--it is just what one has to do. Right now it seems like you are not even making hardly enough to make going to work worth your while BUT the more you do go and do your absloute best teh more hours you will get and it will get better. Try to hang in there and do this. I think you need to prove to yourself that you can be sucessful at work almost as much as you need the money. I'm still sending lots of good thoughts your way and I so hope this works out for you. Just keep at it okay?:hug:

[SandrA9810]

thanks NH. I guess it was just the new schedule posted where another guy that got hired with me has 40hrs. Granted it's not his first time at this job. But it was just one of those major ego busters. I thought i was doing good... 4-5 days. Alright fine, 3hrs isn't much each day, but it at least it was every day.

And it was also humilating to have him show me how to wash, core, and slice the tomatoes... He said here's one box, and i'll do the second box and we'll see who gets done first... Well duh you've been at this for like ten years, of course you're gonna be done first. I made it through about half the box. The other morning they showed me how to make guacamole... It took me 2hrs to finish when it normally takes some one 30 mins.

And i'm not saying he needs to know me personally. But every one learns differently and at different rates. At least one of the managers below him gets this and has talked to him about the way he approaches me, even before i talked with her. He can't expect me to be perfect or know how to do things his ways if i've never done them before. I'm a slow learner, always have been, always will be. Why... I don't know??

[DVC~OKW~96]

Hmmmm, and that is the question I was going to ask you. Why do you think you are slow?

I'm not challenging your statement, you understand. You say you are slow, so I believe that.

But why? Do you move slowly? Do you ponder (Einstein did) and not come to extremely fast conclusions? Do you need a lot of repetition of the same thing to speed up your actions?

If it's practice you need, then do that... practice, practice, practice.

Food service requires good skills, consistency, and yes, speed. The only way to come to that is through doing it. Watch what the fastest ones do, and copy it.

You can do this if you want to. ::yes:: If you don't want to, not one bit of advice here is going to matter. :hug:

[SandrA9810]

I don't know what it is that makes me slow. Like everything I do is in slow motion from every one else.
From 4-7th grade I was placed in the DOP class (drop out prevention). Not a special ed class or anything, but it was a smaller class and the teacher taught at a slower pace.
In 9th grade I was in the colorguard. I got all of 3 compliments from our instructer out of the whole year. The rest of the year I got yelled at for being too slow.
All of school I was pretty much being picked on for being slow.
Even working with Kari at Gamestop, she used to complain all the time about how slow I ran the register. Eventually she backed off on me, but last night she told me how much it drove her nuts.
I was slow when I worked in photopass. It took me a good 6 months or so before my work was good enough (fast and quality). But I still always got yelled at for taking too much time to get to a location.

Like my whole thought process just takes longer, from thinking of what I need to do, to actually doing. And I can get a bit OCD about making things look just right, which I know cuts into my time. But the manager is also OCD about the way his store looks. So he likes the fact that I try to make it spotless (or so i think), he just doesn't like my timing.

Like how people do certain things so fast boggles my mind. And watching them doesn't make me any faster, because I do the same thing, just slower. Like certain things like cutting the lettuce, the way he showed me doesn't work well for me, but the way another person showed me works better.

[wdwfan16]

I don't know what it is that makes me slow. Like everything I do is in slow motion from every one else.
From 4-7th grade I was placed in the DOP class (drop out prevention). Not a special ed class or anything, but it was a smaller class and the teacher taught at a slower pace.
In 9th grade I was in the colorguard. I got all of 3 compliments from our instructer out of the whole year. The rest of the year I got yelled at for being too slow.
All of school I was pretty much being picked on for being slow.
Even working with Kari at Gamestop, she used to complain all the time about how slow I ran the register. Eventually she backed off on me, but last night she told me how much it drove her nuts.
I was slow when I worked in photopass. It took me a good 6 months or so before my work was good enough (fast and quality). But I still always got yelled at for taking too much time to get to a location.

Like my whole thought process just takes longer, from thinking of what I need to do, to actually doing. And I can get a bit OCD about making things look just right, which I know cuts into my time. But the manager is also OCD about the way his store looks. So he likes the fact that I try to make it spotless (or so i think), he just doesn't like my timing.

Like how people do certain things so fast boggles my mind. And watching them doesn't make me any faster, because I do the same thing, just slower. Like certain things like cutting the lettuce, the way he showed me doesn't work well for me, but the way another person showed me works better.


The "I am so slow compared to everybody else" makes no sense to me. Are you concentrating on what you are doing or daydreaming and not doing your job? You are young and should have lots of energy and ambition. Are you sleeping enough? Do you visualize yourself doing the job when you have idle time? This will speed you up. On those long bus rides visualize cutting up stuff, making burritos, cleaning the dining room or whatever else you are slow at but want to do. Praise yourself when you do better.

This defeatest attitude is showing in your work.

I too don't undestand the "they don't get who I am" statement. You are just another body that they employ for minimum wage to wait on customers. There is nothing to get.

Set yourself a goal and they strive to meet it.

[SandrA9810]

I'm not day dreaming, I'm not off in la la land when I do my work.
I actually have to concentrate at what I'm doing. Most of them do it like second nature.

I have to go through mental checklists to make sure i'm doing everything that I'm supposed to. But cutting is a bit cumbersome at the moment, because I have to wear the chainmill glove with another rubber glove on top. And well there's only one size, Large. So it makes my hand huge, and well I'm not used to it cause i don't do that sort of thing at home.
The first time, he told me to use an x-large rubber glove on top, but the tips were too long and kept getting in the way. I've discovered that using just a large glove helps hold the chain glove closer to my hand. Still bulky, but easier to deal with.

[SandrA9810]

nevermind... it's too much to try and explain.

to the rest of the world, i'm lazy and have no work ethics. so i will just let them think whatever they want.

[DVC~OKW~96]

So lets start there. What the rest of the world thinks... no.

What do YOU think?

[SandrA9810]

well those are the words of Kari.

I'm tired of tryng to impress the world. If they don't like me, so be it. It's not worth it, if it's not making me happy.

[crashbb]

well those are the words of Kari.

I'm tired of tryng to impress the world. If they don't like me, so be it. It's not worth it, if it's not making me happy.

You don't have to impress the world, you just have to impress your boss enough to keep a job.

Again, it doesn't matter what Kari's words are - what words do YOU have to describe yourself?

[DVC~OKW~96]

OK. Happy. You want to be happy (and I would say that anyone I've ever known wants to be happy too).

Happy isn't an empty word, though and you know what? Happy takes work!

I spend most weekdays away from my wife, the woman I love and will die loving. Does that make me happy? No. My work contributes to my sense of satisfaction with my place in the world, so that can be seen as a form of happiness, yes?

I've been in jobs that made me miserable and that bled over into my personal life and made us BOTH very unhappy.

All that to say, what you do for a living, your livelihood if you will, is important. Unless you are born to the spoon, you'll be working for a living.

So, work in the job you have, not that it makes you happy, but that it's a road to happiness in the long run. If nothing else it will teach you what you DON'T want to do for the rest of your life.

Have a good old look around and as Rob says, WORK at getting another job. It's not easy work, but it can lead to great satisfaction if you land a job that better suits your knowledge, skills and abilities.

You've had much advice here, many comments, some compassionate, some not so, some very honest and forthright...

Now it's up to you. You need to do FOR you WHAT you WANT.

It take you time to determine what you want for a career, but don't stop the doing... that leads to learning better and more clearly, what you want.

[wdwfan16]

nevermind... it's too much to try and explain.

to the rest of the world, i'm lazy and have no work ethics. so i will just let them think whatever they want.

You need to ask yourself why do they have that image of me and how did they read that image.

Prove them wrong.

[enigmaMN]

nevermind... it's too much to try and explain.

to the rest of the world, i'm lazy and have no work ethics. so i will just let them think whatever they want.

You don't sound lazy or lacking work ethic to me, but you do sound as if you could use some "help". Have you considered speaking with a counselor of some type? Perhaps there are underlying reasons that have yet to be uncovered. I know this is a hard thing to do when $$ is such an issue, but there is help out there if you're willing to take it. Keep your chin up... things will get better. :hug:

[DVC~OKW~96]

That really is excellent advice.

There are opportunities through the Department of Labor here in Florida that can assist you with gaining the skills you need to find a different or better job.

WorkForce is one such state sponsored group.

On a day off go to the Employment/Unemployment office and see what the people there have to say! Nothing to lose, eh?

[wallyb]

My advice is:
Stop whining.
But your nose down.
Your back into it.
AND JUST DO IT!
:rolleyes:

[soulmates]

And the cat is out of the bag. Good advice Walter, good advice!:thumbsup2

[Broker]

My advice is:
Stop whining.
But your nose down.
Your back into it.
AND JUST DO IT!
:rolleyes:

They'll just tell you not to let the door hit you on the way out. Constructive criticism isn't taken to nicely around here. (or so it seems) I think there are underlying issues here that nobody is going to be able to fix on a message board.

[KirstenB]

If you have health insurance, it might be worth setting up a consult with an occupational therapist. I know it probably seems far-fetched, but you may have some underlying condition that makes you slower. Our younger dd has many issues, but some of the things that stood out very early were low muscle tone, and problems with motor planning (your brain knows what to do, but something gets lost along the way). For instance, very simple puzzles were torture for her.

[SandrA9810]

There's certain things I'm really good at, and other things that I'm not good at at all. Like a lot of people say math and science go hand in hand. I'm great at math, but i never understood science.
I hate doctors all around, and I'd rather not know. There's a few puzzle pieces that have come together thanks to the internet. I carry the fragile x gene (my brother has syndrome g), and while I "seem" normal, it can cause problems. But my mother always downplayed the reasons for my brother being handicap. So nothing was ever done when I was a kid.


Last week the boss sat down and talked with me about budget and that I'm not working up to his standards stuff... he said I have this week to prove that I want to keep the job. I had a long talk with the second manager about the conversation and the way he approached it. And she went to him to tell him about the way he made me feel. Which pretty much felt like "i'm going to let you go next week, i'm just letting you work it cause you're already on the schedule". It's nice that the other people there understand how I feel, and she's really good at understanding when I'm venting.
He's also been a lot nicer, letting me work the line. And giving compliments... which is just really strange. I've also been scheduled for 5hrs tomorrow night with a training manager.

He has also hired two more guys. And today was the first day for one of the guys. It's very obvious that he treats girls differently than guys. The new kid was making a lot of the same mistakes I was, and he just stood by letting the kid try. When I had my first day, he kept stepping in and taking over, not giving me that chance to work it out on my own. When I saw him doing the "first day" with the two new guys, after this talk, it really felt like "here's your replacement."

[DVC~OKW~96]

Yep, that will happen. Not to be harsh, Sandra but get used to it. I've been in the workforce for years (and years, and years, and years :teeth: ) and still encounter that sort of "thing."

I'm not going to call it an "ism" but it's out there, it's real, it happens every day. You learn to know when to call it, and when to turn your back on it.

So, if you don't like this job, your options are to look, look, look. Yes?

Given what you've said above, you really could benefit by checking into the state supported work programs. There is some training available, job coaches and the like. Only you can tap into that system though, because you are now an adult. No one can do it for you.

Take care and good luck!

[SandrA9810]

Well it looks like I get to keep my job.

Still horrible hours, but I've got it. I've also talked to a couple of people about the photography at Discovery Cove. So now that the weather is warming up, I think I'll apply for that. Even if it only last the summer. It's definatly one of those jobs that I thought would be cool to have when I first heard about it. And that was before I worked at Disney, so now that I have photography background, and working in the water. I hope that'll play in my favor.

[DVC~OKW~96]

That's the way to do it Sandra! Find another job you like better while still working at the job you currently have!!

You're getting there! Might be an opportunity to have two jobs and once too, and actually get ahead where money is concerned. ::yes::

Think about that, ok? You can arrange your schedules to encompass both jobs and that can only be good for you. ::yes::

[mickeysaver]

Oh, I love Discovery Cove. Several of the employees there were former Disney CM's when we went there in 2007. One of them was a former Dream Team member. We had such a good day there and have some priceless photos too.

If you are interested, then by all means, go for it!

[SandrA9810]

I was talking with a friend who says a co-worker does it part time. So he's going to ask her if they do "referrals" like Disney does. At Disney, it's called "casting scout" cards, and when the person applies to disney, they enter the CM's info and it's supposed to look better on the app.

[hematite153]

I haven't been around in awhile, but, wanted to check in and see how things were going.

People have been saying some useful things and although you sound like you've let things get you down, you've also continued to stick with it and that's great.

On the speed issue, there is a psycho-educational measure called processing speed and as a species we fill a spectrum in terms of processing speed. Just like someone can be a Cy-Young winning pitcher and someone else can't even throw a ball 3 feet, processing speed has extremes. Most people are in a certain range, some people are fast, some people are slow, some people are really fast, some people are really slow, some people are extremely fast, and some people are extremely slow.

I know a guy who is so slow that he can't really call people on the phone because they hang-up thinking it's a crank call before he can process that the phone has been answered and create a responsive "hello". Yet, this same guy has specific areas where he manages to perform above normal. He has achieved those skills with excessive repetition and practice and a continued positive attitude and belief in his ability to do it.

I know that it's hard to feel like you aren't "good enough yet", but, the "yet" in that phrase is important. If you are able to concentrate on it as a "yet", then, you set yourself up to get there eventually. Even if it takes a long time, believing that you can get there and practicing at all times will help.

Some specifics:
- The Discovery Cove option sounds good. Get your application in soon.
- I think it's terrific that you are still working at this job and I hope you find a way to continue it (even if only a few hours a week) when you find another one.
- Could you find a large glove of another type and wear it when cutting things at home? (Likewise, keep the large glove with you and wear it when you are trying to do other things with your hands.) That way you'd be able to practice the feeling of having your hand impeded even when you aren't chopping.

[SandrA9810]

He talked with me the other day at work when I got off. He said that I should be expecting to see more hours in the coming weeks. Right now it's kinda slow time. Because most the customers we have are CMs from Disney and a few from Sea World, it reflects how much business we get. As the parks get ready for spring break, and hours are crazy at the parks, well that'll mean more people working, and more coming for lunch.

I never really thought about how much tourism plays into some of the basic jobs around orlando. I mean we get a few tourist here and there. But mostly every one is a regular, and either lives close by or works close by.

But as with my other topic... these next two months are really going to play a big part in how things turn out.