One for the "There's something you don't see every day" dept.

[Geoff_M]

Yesterday, we let our two sons venture by themselves to MK in the afternoon while the rest of us had some "down time" at the resort. When they returned, my son said "I saw the most bizarre thing in MK today. We were walking across the bridge into Tomorrowland and I looked over and this kid (sounded about 4 or 5 years old from my followup questions to him) has his pants down and is 'going' against the wall of the bridge! His parents were standing there and giving dirty looks to anyone passing that made eye contact with them in a 'Don't you dare look at my son!' manner." I asked if the kid was going through a gap into the water below and he said "No, he was just making a big puddle!"

[Indiana Rose Lee]

Oh my! That would have bothered me. Even in an extreme emergency, something better could have been done!

[nmmom95]

Oh, gross! There are bathrooms everywhere and they are pretty clean. What is wrong with people?

[kmk1180]

I believe it.

Some people have no respect for anything.

The sad thing is there's a bathroom at the back of Cosmic Rays, right there. A 4-5 year old could have made that easy.

[kaffinito]

Yuck. That's almost as bad as the people who change diapers on the food court tables. :sick:

[SaraJayne]

I believe it.

Some people have no respect for anything.

The sad thing is there's a bathroom at the back of Cosmic Rays, right there. A 4-5 year old could have made that easy.

There's also one in the Tomorrowland Noodle Station...which is even closer. :sad2:

How disgusting.

[JasonDVC]

Yuck. That's almost as bad as the people who change diapers on the food court tables. :sick:

:scared1:

Please tell me you have not seen this and just made it up

[tfoster]

I obviously wasn't there, but I'll play devil's advocate. Sometimes kids do something that is mortifying and you just try to get it over with. I prefer to think that the child unexpectedly pulled down his pants and started peeing (I have three boys and they've all done it at one time or another - and it's been mortifying). It's exceedingly difficult to stop a boy from peeing once he has started, and perhaps the looks on the parents' faces were more from their being mortified about people's seeing what was happening rather than their giving people dirty looks for interrupting their planned bathroom break and location.

While I know there are rude people around, I really don't believe that parents would instruct or in any way whatsoever encourage a child to go to the bathroom the way OP described.

Personally, I'd rather give the parents the benefit of the doubt than assume the worst about them.

[Indiana Rose Lee]

:scared1:

Please tell me you have not seen this and just made it up

i've seen it several times. so much that it barely fazes me! That is kind of gross in and of itself!

[jenseib]

Were they foreign? I know some country's use the outside as a bathroom, so maybe they didn't think they were doing anything wrong?
My Aunt has traveled to several different countries and she told me the "hooro" stories of bathrooms in some countries, basically they they have no public bathroom and you just squat and go...anywhere!:scared1:

[Eljay]

At Epcot, I saw a mom take a little boy over to pee in some bushes.
This happened in full view of bystanders. :rolleyes:

[mariepapa]

Were they foreign? I know some country's use the outside as a bathroom, so maybe they didn't think they were doing anything wrong?
My Aunt has traveled to several different countries and she told me the "hooro" stories of bathrooms in some countries, basically they they have no public bathroom and you just squat and go...anywhere!:scared1:

Yes, even in France men will often go in public. I have seen it in Egypt too. Other countries' customs are not the same as our own.

[dburg30]

While it wasnt something that should happen, I agree with one of the PP's (hehe, that's kind of funny in this thread ;)) that said the boy may have just, ahem, taken the situation into his own hands and just started going. I have a nephew that when he was like 3 or so and had learned that secret he would go outside and pee off the deck into the back yard, I think, just because he could. The go camping and stuff a lot so he just did it. Well, they did finally get him to understand there are places (like camping) that it was ok to go find a bush and go if he needed, but if he was visiting places that wasnt the right thing to do. So, it could have been that, and if that's the case, as they said, the parents could have just been like "please let him finish so we can move on". If not, then yes, it goes right up with the "you never know what people will do" column :). We'll never know for sure though.

[Princess Disney Mom]

While in the shower at the Contemporary pool bathrooms I heard a mans voice. Sure enough there was a man in the ladies room using the bathroom talking on a cell. Took my daughter and got out of there fast. Told the nearest CM and she looked in and sure enough came out saying"There is a man in the ladies room." By the time she got a second CM to confront him , the man had left.

[kmvand1]

Yes, even in France men will often go in public. I have seen it in Egypt too. Other countries' customs are not the same as our own.

Well HELLOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're not in France or Egypt. NOT an excuse!:rolleyes1

[bgohre]

I don't know what you're all freaking out about.

Taking a pee over looking the castle. I can't think of a more magical place to pee. :)

[locolala]

Unless the kid had developmental problems, 4 or 5 is old enough to know to wait until you get to a restroom. Yeesh.. I'm sorry, it's just gross to me.

[Uncleromulus]

With bathrooms easily available, there's no defending this.

While we're on gross and in relation to kaffinito's post, our bartender at the Blue Zoo saw a couple change a baby's diaper on top of one of the lounge tables IN the bar/lounge area....

[blanq]

I obviously wasn't there, but I'll play devil's advocate. Sometimes kids do something that is mortifying and you just try to get it over with. I prefer to think that the child unexpectedly pulled down his pants and started peeing (I have three boys and they've all done it at one time or another - and it's been mortifying). It's exceedingly difficult to stop a boy from peeing once he has started, and perhaps the looks on the parents' faces were more from their being mortified about people's seeing what was happening rather than their giving people dirty looks for interrupting their planned bathroom break and location.

While I know there are rude people around, I really don't believe that parents would instruct or in any way whatsoever encourage a child to go to the bathroom the way OP described.

Personally, I'd rather give the parents the benefit of the doubt than assume the worst about them.

I am the mother of a boy too, and I just can't buy this argument. The kid would have to get his pants down first, and that's where I would step in as a mother IMMEDIATELY :eek:, even if I needed to be somewhat forceful, to stop it from progressing. If my child couldn't hold it and ended up with wet pants, so be it. I would not let him drop his pants in public and use a sidewalk as the place to relieve himself.

[blanq]

I don't know what you're all freaking out about.

Taking a pee over looking the castle. I can't think of a more magical place to pee. :)

Yes, perhaps magical for the pee-er, but not so magical for those who will forever associate the castle with pee from that point on. :scared1: :rotfl:

[Eljay]

With bathrooms easily available, there's no defending this.

While we're on gross and in relation to kaffinito's post, our bartender at the Blue Zoo saw a couple change a baby's diaper on top of one of the lounge tables IN the bar/lounge area....

If a CM witnesses something like this, is there a policy in place to clean or disinfect the area? Personally, I'd like to see a Clean-Up Swat Team swoop in and clean while the offender is still there. A little embarrassment might be what's needed. I really don't want to unknowingly drink or eat at a lounge table that might have baby poop residue. :scared:

[Rip]

I am the mother of a boy too, and I just can't buy this argument. The kid would have to get his pants down first, and that's where I would step in as a mother IMMEDIATELY :eek:, even if I needed to be somewhat forceful, to stop it from progressing. If my child couldn't hold it and ended up with wet pants, so be it. I would not let him drop his pants in public and use a sidewalk as the place to relieve himself.

How old is your boy? Mine's 3 and he's done it quicker than you can turn your head to see it, and I'm not about to pull his pants up while he's in the middle of taking a leak and get it all over me and him both. I just give him a swat on the behind when he's done.

[dburg30]

If a CM witnesses something like this, is there a policy in place to clean or disinfect the area? Personally, I'd like to see a Clean-Up Swat Team swoop in and clean while the offender is still there. A little embarrassment might be what's needed. I really don't want to unknowingly drink or eat at a lounge table that might have baby poop residue. :scared:

Then take wipes with you and clean your table. All I can offer. I mean, I'm sure they come by and wipe them off fairly often, but to be safe, clean it yourself :) :thumbsup2

[RNtheRN]

What in the world is wrong with people. Thats the kinda stuff you'f expect at six flags or some other lesser park. I can only hope they were not only thrown out of the park, but out of WDW altogether.

[Eljay]

While I know there are rude people around, I really don't believe that parents would instruct or in any way whatsoever encourage a child to go to the bathroom the way OP described.

Personally, I'd rather give the parents the benefit of the doubt than assume the worst about them.

The mother I witnessed in Epcot led her child to a bush, helped him pull his pants down and helped him do his thing into a bush in front of people sitting on benches.
(They were speaking a foreign language. :duck:)

[BradyBz12]

Totally believe it. We were walking by the Brown Derby at HS in November (lots of people all over the place) and I saw a woman with a toddler standing up against the fence. She pulled down his "pull up" type diaper and was encouraging him to pee through the fence into the grass.

I think I shook my head all the way to ToT. :confused3

[Indiana Rose Lee]

If a CM witnesses something like this, is there a policy in place to clean or disinfect the area? Personally, I'd like to see a Clean-Up Swat Team swoop in and clean while the offender is still there. A little embarrassment might be what's needed. I really don't want to unknowingly drink or eat at a lounge table that might have baby poop residue. :scared:

2319! i love that in Monsters Inc.

[sbell111]

If a CM witnesses something like this, is there a policy in place to clean or disinfect the area? Personally, I'd like to see a Clean-Up Swat Team swoop in and clean while the offender is still there. A little embarrassment might be what's needed. I really don't want to unknowingly drink or eat at a lounge table that might have baby poop residue. :scared:Assuming that a changing pad was used, I'm not sure that there wood be any 'poop residue'. I know that when we change our daughter's diapers, we aren't getting poop anywhere, at all.

[Jenvenza]

I believe it, too. We saw a mom pull her 7 or 8 year old son's pants down and let him pee while we were in line for The Festival of the Lion King.

[ShannonMB]

Assuming that a changing pad was used, I'm not sure that there wood be any 'poop residue'. I know that when we change our daughter's diapers, we aren't getting poop anywhere, at all.

Nevertheless, of course we all know using a table where other people will be eating is not the place for a diaper change. Just as nowhere besides a bathroom is it acceptable to pee in the Magic Kingdom!

[kaffinito]

:scared1:

Please tell me you have not seen this and just made it up

Nope - I wish I made it up! I saw it at POR's food court on our first trip. The "lady" was changing the diaper on the table. She got really mad at me for looking at her while she was changing the diaper and started yelling at me to mind my own business. :confused3

[dburg30]

Assuming that a changing pad was used, I'm not sure that there wood be any 'poop residue'. I know that when we change our daughter's diapers, we aren't getting poop anywhere, at all.

I totally agree, but is a public eating establishment, on a table, a place to be doing that? Nope, I dont think so either. I dont care about the 'residue' more just the whole atmosphere.

[kaffinito]

I totally agree, but is a public eating establishment, on a table, a place to be doing that? Nope, I dont think so either. I dont care about the 'residue' more just the whole atmosphere.

:thumbsup2

And she wasn't using a changing pad. :sad2:

[jenseib]

Assuming that a changing pad was used, I'm not sure that there wood be any 'poop residue'. I know that when we change our daughter's diapers, we aren't getting poop anywhere, at all.

It's just gross, no matter what, and you would be amazed at the little spec that might fly!

[Princess Disney Mom]

Well HELLOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're not in France or Egypt. NOT an excuse!:rolleyes1

I agree. And those that talk about changing their babies on tables or in resturants in general this is wrong and unacceptable.

[Eljay]

If a CM witnesses something like this, is there a policy in place to clean or disinfect the area? Personally, I'd like to see a Clean-Up Swat Team swoop in and clean while the offender is still there. A little embarrassment might be what's needed. I really don't want to unknowingly drink or eat at a lounge table that might have baby poop residue. :scared:

2319! i love that in Monsters Inc.

:laughing::laughing::laughing:
Exactly what I'm talkin' about!
Contamination Alert!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSAXkp9cqbk

[bumbershoot]

I obviously wasn't there, but I'll play devil's advocate. Sometimes kids do something that is mortifying and you just try to get it over with. I prefer to think that the child unexpectedly pulled down his pants and started peeing (I have three boys and they've all done it at one time or another - and it's been mortifying). It's exceedingly difficult to stop a boy from peeing once he has started, and perhaps the looks on the parents' faces were more from their being mortified about people's seeing what was happening rather than their giving people dirty looks for interrupting their planned bathroom break and location.


I agree that it's possible. Especially the misinterpreted look part. When DH sees a woman nursing her child, he tries to give a kind, supportive look. I've seen that look, and it comes across as creepy. I tell him to just NOT look b/c that's better than the look he gives, LOL.


I have a nephew that when he was like 3 or so and had learned that secret he would go outside and pee off the deck into the back yard, I think, just because he could. The go camping and stuff a lot so he just did it. Well, they did finally get him to understand there are places (like camping) that it was ok to go find a bush and go if he needed, but if he was visiting places that wasnt the right thing to do.

Reason #1 I have never let DS pee in any bushes, even though we were camping quite a bit for awhile. We camp in state parks, there are bathrooms, we use those bathrooms even though I hate them. No bushes!

Unless the kid had developmental problems, 4 or 5 is old enough to know to wait until you get to a restroom. Yeesh.. I'm sorry, it's just gross to me.

You'd think, but there CAN be a perfect storm of events and forgetfulness... DS was out of diapers by 2.5 (he would have preferred it to happen at 2, but I was nervous), but last summer when he was a new 5, he had to "go" during a mom/son trip to DLR. But we were right about to get on a ride, he said he could hold it, we went on the ride and forgot about his need. One thing led to another, and an HOUR later he finally realized that he very very very very much HAD TO go, and there was no waiting. Poor munchkin, he was so embarrassed. As soon as I realized the situation (we were looking at pins in the shop after Buzz) I picked him up and put him on my hip, because I wasn't going to embarrass a 5 year old with wet pants, and sometimes the pressure of my hip can help him stop. But he couldn't stop, and I carried him on my hip, to reduce his embarrassment, from Tomorrowland all the way to our Paradise Pier Hotel room (long way). Changed our clothes, went and had dinner, all was well.

So you can have the expectation that a kid is old enough...but if there's enough "fun" going on, things can get forgotten.


Do I think those things happened in this case? Naw. Do I hope it? Oh yes.

[momtoBrandon&Jacob]

What in the world is wrong with people. Thats the kinda stuff you'f expect at six flags or some other lesser park. I can only hope they were not only thrown out of the park, but out of WDW altogether.

I hope you're not serious...kicking out a family from WDW for a little boy passing urine? Geez...:confused3 I'd hate to see the punishments you inflict on your own children.

[blanq]

How old is your boy? Mine's 3 and he's done it quicker than you can turn your head to see it, and I'm not about to pull his pants up while he's in the middle of taking a leak and get it all over me and him both. I just give him a swat on the behind when he's done.

Mine is now 16, so I have long ago finished parenting a child who would even try something like this. If he pulled his pants down in the MK now, I would have much bigger problems on my hands. :rotfl: But, I lived through those toddler years. I know kids can be quick, and if you let your eyes wander from them for a second they can get in all sorts of mischief. In the case that prompted this post, the parents allowed the incident to happen. I can tell you, even if my kid had gotten his pants down when I turned my head for a second, I would have yanked them up to his throat (okay, I am really NOT that mean, but I would be tempted to yank his pants up that far), if he was in the middle of pee flying or not.

[bwilcox]

Are there really people on here DEFENDING a boy urinating on a public walkway while the parents stand by and do nothing?!?! :confused3

[famsen]

:scared1:

Please tell me you have not seen this and just made it up

I actually saw (and smelled) people changing a diaper on the benches behind us in The Tiki Room. :eek:
Grossest thing EVER!

[Mrs. Charming]

Are there really people on here DEFENDING a boy urinating on a public walkway while the parents stand by and do nothing?!?! :confused3

That's what it looks like. :sad2:

[mjkacmom]

I am the mother of a boy too, and I just can't buy this argument. The kid would have to get his pants down first, and that's where I would step in as a mother IMMEDIATELY :eek:, even if I needed to be somewhat forceful, to stop it from progressing. If my child couldn't hold it and ended up with wet pants, so be it. I would not let him drop his pants in public and use a sidewalk as the place to relieve himself.

Well, as a mom to 2 boys, they don't take their pants down - they've been taught proper urinal ediquitte, and only push down the top of their pants. My kids have never done this, but I have caught ds6 peeing in the backyard (and there's a stree there!). :scared1:

[DisDarling]

What is wrong with you people when you actually SEE this happen and you do NOTHING about it>?>? Go to the nearest CM and use your voice. I
m not encouraging you confront the parent, but COME ON, something needs to be said.

[lugnut33]

Yeah!! This is great news. I'll no longer have to get the map out to find the nearest bathroom. I'll just go where ever I want.

[XtrickXphotographyX]

I don't even know what I'd do in this situation?
Haha, I'm just contemplating if I would say something to the parents, or if I'd just run away, and tell someone else, so we could be amused by the situation.
I'd probably find someone who works there, and get it cleaned up..
That's the last thing I'd want to step in...

[dburg30]

That's the last thing I'd want to step in...

While I wouldnt really like to step in it, dont think that would be the worst thing...:goodvibes

[Maria395712]

my DD about 21 or 22 she was at the time, saw an adult man get completely naked and changed clothes at blizzard beach we screamed OMg and we were in shock. didn't tell any CM as we didn't see any. also at TL water park a woman sat topless at the bar the bartender told her to put her top on
maria

[jctwizzer]

a classic example of continuing evidence that the nature of the guests
at WDW has changed drastically......expect to see more of the same type
of behavior as time goes by...other common examples are t shirt msgs., slutty
clothes, garbage language, entitlement mentality, etc etc etc. I think our
days of returning 4 to 6 times a year are about over:mad:

[PIRATEGIRL007]

Assuming that a changing pad was used, I'm not sure that there wood be any 'poop residue'. I know that when we change our daughter's diapers, we aren't getting poop anywhere, at all.

Flame away but the kind of people who are willing to change thier diaper on a table in a bar aren't usually the really prepared kind who bring a changing pad.

[Geoff_M]

I obviously wasn't there, but I'll play devil's advocate. Sometimes kids do something that is mortifying and you just try to get it over with. I prefer to think that the child unexpectedly pulled down his pants and started peeing (I have three boys and they've all done it at one time or another - and it's been mortifying)
....
Personally, I'd rather give the parents the benefit of the doubt than assume the worst about them.After posting this sight, I too started thinking about possible scenarios. I thought maybe the kid just had a sudden "attack" and it was either "go" or wet his pants... and I'd probably go with option A too. But we just got back from Epcot, and on the way out my older son was recounting the event and I stopped him when he said "kids". I replied "You mean it wasn't just one kid?" and he said "Yes, it was two boys." There goes my theory.

[carlyle688]

On my way out of the Epcot parking lot one night I saw a man --- not a child --- peeing by the side of a car (I hope it was HIS car). I stopped my car, rolled down my window and told him they had restrooms at the entrance of the park. Disgusting pig.

[wdwtweets]

Wow....two simultaneous magical pees! Now, you don't see that every day.

[bgohre]

While I wouldnt really like to step in it, dont think that would be the worst thing...:goodvibes

I can think of one (or would it be 2)? :confused3

[k5thbeatle]

a classic example of continuing evidence that the nature of the guests
at WDW has changed drastically......expect to see more of the same type
of behavior as time goes by...other common examples are t shirt msgs., slutty
clothes, garbage language, entitlement mentality, etc etc etc. I think our
days of returning 4 to 6 times a year are about over:mad:

Is it a coincidence that discount stuff (free dining plan, low resort rates, etc.) has been on the rise the last several years?!:confused:

[arcticdisneylovers]

Darn it, now that I know we can pee anywhere we like at Disney, I almost wish I had DS instead of a DD so we could just skip the bother of bathroom breaks :lmao:

[fla4fun]

Is it a coincidence that discount stuff (free dining plan, low resort rates, etc.) has been on the rise the last several years?!:confused:

Courtesy and good manners have nothing to do with how much money you have or how much money you spend - they are both free. It all comes down to how you are raised. If you are raised to be courteous and to have good manners, you are not going to do things like change a diaper on a dining table, or use a bush or sidewalk in a theme park for your restroom. If you are not taught that there are some things that should not be done in public, then you will do them and see nothing wrong with it. When some parents started placing more emphasis on being a friend than a parent, a lot of courtesy and good manners went out the window and were replaced with entitlement and poor decision making skills. We've had a few generations of this now, so I don't see the trend reversing itself any time soon - although there are enough responsible parents here on the DIS that I haven't given up all hope. It's not just happening at Disney - it's happening everywhere. So anyone who thinks they can avoid these people by taking a vacation elsewhere is being very naive.

[cdrn1]

I obviously wasn't there, but I'll play devil's advocate. Sometimes kids do something that is mortifying and you just try to get it over with. I prefer to think that the child unexpectedly pulled down his pants and started peeing (I have three boys and they've all done it at one time or another - and it's been mortifying). It's exceedingly difficult to stop a boy from peeing once he has started, and perhaps the looks on the parents' faces were more from their being mortified about people's seeing what was happening rather than their giving people dirty looks for interrupting their planned bathroom break and location.

While I know there are rude people around, I really don't believe that parents would instruct or in any way whatsoever encourage a child to go to the bathroom the way OP described.

Personally, I'd rather give the parents the benefit of the doubt than assume the worst about them.

As the grandmother of a three-year-old boy (who thankfully has never done this but OMG the potential!!!) I have to applaud your open mind and willingness to look at the "other side" of the situation!

[bwilcox]

As the grandmother of a three-year-old boy (who thankfully has never done this but OMG the potential!!!) I have to applaud your open mind and willingness to look at the "other side" of the situation!

There are a lot of things that I can have an open mind about, but two boys urinating on a sidewalk while the parents stand by and watch is NOT one of them. You grab them up and run to the restroom with them, you threaten them so they never even think of doing it again. You don't stand there and glare at others who are having to walk around the puddle of urine!!!

[Katie Dawn]

Courtesy and good manners have nothing to do with how much money you have or how much money you spend - they are both free. It all comes down to how you are raised. If you are raised to be courteous and to have good manners, you are not going to do things like change a diaper on a dining table, or use a bush or sidewalk in a theme park for your restroom. If you are not taught that there are some things that should not be done in public, then you will do them and see nothing wrong with it. When some parents started placing more emphasis on being a friend than a parent, a lot of courtesy and good manners went out the window and were replaced with entitlement and poor decision making skills. We've had a few generations of this now, so I don't see the trend reversing itself any time soon - although there are enough responsible parents here on the DIS that I haven't given up all hope. It's not just happening at Disney - it's happening everywhere. So anyone who thinks they can avoid these people by taking a vacation elsewhere is being very naive.

:thumbsup2

[princesswendy720]

Assuming that a changing pad was used, I'm not sure that there wood be any 'poop residue'. I know that when we change our daughter's diapers, we aren't getting poop anywhere, at all.

As others have said, even if a changing pad is used a table in a public eating establishment is nowhere to be changing a diaper. The smell alone is enough to make people sick and lose their appetite! And (also as others have said), germs are microscopic. Just because you don't see anything, doesn't mean they're not there.

I think some people are so used to being around children and all the smells and sounds that go along with it, they sometimes forget that there are other people around who may not appreciate it. There are just certain places that are not appropriate for these sort of things.

[Eldon_Brasche]

This entire thread is of great interest to me as we just returned from the world and witnessed a mother changing her baby on the table at Columbia Harbour House in MK. She didn’t seem to think she was wrong even though she waited to do it after her family had eaten rather than before. A family came up right afterwards to eat at that table and we informed them of what had just happened and they would not sit there until the table was cleaned. I’ve read where others say to expect more of this type of behavior and I tend to agree that the behavior of people in public is getting worse. We are seeing a total lack of civility from people. If people are going to behave irrationally in public then I have no problem confronting them and letting them know. I’m not putting myself up as the morals police by any means but there are certain things that are unconscionable to do in a polite society. Some may say that what others do in public is none of my business but one need remember that your rights end where mine begin.

[DonaldTDuck]

On my way out of the Epcot parking lot one night I saw a man --- not a child --- peeing by the side of a car (I hope it was HIS car). I stopped my car, rolled down my window and told him they had restrooms at the entrance of the park. Disgusting pig.
NOt that IO disagree, but I find it odd that you would describe this incident at Epcot with this as your signature line:
. . . WHAT HAPPENS AT EPCOT STAYS AT EPCOT . . .

:lmao:

[bringmethathorizon]

yep seen it .....man peeing on the fence by big tunder railroad....several baby changing in inappropriate places......little girls sticking their heads in a water fountain to cool off.if you go enough you will see it also.the thing is you are not going to change it.disney can politly ask them not to but thats about it.they cant kick them out ,if they kicked out every rude and uncouth person they would be BROKE.we as family just look and laugh, sometimes it makes our day just knowing what some people are will to do.:rotfl2:

[hillview]

DS is 4 and has been known to drop his pants and pee before I can scoop him up. It is less often now but when he was newly potty trained it was more common than I care to admit. GIRLS NEVER DO THIS! ;)

/hillary

[ols386]

When we were staying at WL a few months ago, we were walking in that hallway/walkway from the lobby down to the food court (it's like a ramp), and a little kid was walking up the ramp (opposite direction of us), and the mother was just a short distance behind him, and she was telling him to hurry, and he was holding himself, and I guess he just couldn't hold it back, and he just stopped right there in the middle of the ramp and peed on the floor..he had swimming trunks on. I could tell that the mother was terribly embarrassed, and she had a pool towel (apparently) with her, and started cleaning up the floor when he finished.

The mother was trying to get him to hurry in hopes that he could make it to the bathroom in time, but obviously he didn't.

[ambertides]

Courtesy and good manners have nothing to do with how much money you have or how much money you spend - they are both free.

:thumbsup2

I don't believe manners are necessarily all that much worse now than 10 or 20 years ago. We just watched Pinocchio last night and snorted at Jimminy complaining about "manners these days" or something similar... and that was the '30s-'40s!

[pampam]

With all these posts about people changing diapers on restaurant tables, I'm always amazed that these diaper changers never need to wash their hands afterward. I saw a man change his baby's diaper at Tusker house. I was rushing to greet someone I know, but I saw a CM and quickly pointed out the table so she could clean it. At counter service restaurants, I carry with me those packets of vinegar we get from fast food places, and rewash the table with vinegar and napkins. Perhaps the table just had a baby's butt on it, or maybe the table was cleaned with a dirty cloth. I just want to make sure. I never thought of cleaning our table at a full service place. Perhaps I should.;)

[ryley26]

Moving this to the Community Board

[jenseib]

yep seen it .....man peeing on the fence by big tunder railroad....several baby changing in inappropriate places......little girls sticking their heads in a water fountain to cool off.if you go enough you will see it also.the thing is you are not going to change it.disney can politly ask them not to but thats about it.they cant kick them out ,if they kicked out every rude and uncouth person they would be BROKE.we as family just look and laugh, sometimes it makes our day just knowing what some people are will to do.:rotfl2:

Actually they can, peeing in public, also in the catagory of displying themselves in public as well...is against the law. My BIL got arrested for peeing in public outside a bar one night.

[Karlzmom]

Yes, even in France men will often go in public. I have seen it in Egypt too. Other countries' customs are not the same as our own.

True, but when Americans go the theirI] country and act, well like Americans, we get called"ugly Americans", "uncultured", what ever other nasty thing you can because we have not adapted and respected their cultural practices. Shouldn't [I]they be expected to adopt our cultural norms in our country? Why is it that we Americans seem to be so willing to say "oh well" when it comes to someone behaving in an appalling fashion here?Do we care so littel about our own culture? Or do we practice a soft bigotry where we don't think they are cabable of "getting" how to behave here?

[k5thbeatle]

Courtesy and good manners have nothing to do with how much money you have or how much money you spend - they are both free. It all comes down to how you are raised. If you are raised to be courteous and to have good manners, you are not going to do things like change a diaper on a dining table, or use a bush or sidewalk in a theme park for your restroom. If you are not taught that there are some things that should not be done in public, then you will do them and see nothing wrong with it. When some parents started placing more emphasis on being a friend than a parent, a lot of courtesy and good manners went out the window and were replaced with entitlement and poor decision making skills. We've had a few generations of this now, so I don't see the trend reversing itself any time soon - although there are enough responsible parents here on the DIS that I haven't given up all hope. It's not just happening at Disney - it's happening everywhere. So anyone who thinks they can avoid these people by taking a vacation elsewhere is being very naive.

Good point(s).:surfweb: