Rock 'n Roller Coaster may not be featuring Aerosmith

[Stumpy]

I know rumors have circulated around about this, but got confirmation of situation by executive CM. Basically, Disney has not yet renewed the contract with Aerosmith to keep them as the feature of RnR. And, as many of you know, the band is on-again off-again. Steven Tyler fell off the wagon (and stage) this summer and then band members hinted that he was going his own way. Then, he came out with the band to say they are not breaking up to say later that he wants to market "brand Tyler" in a different manner and suggested again they may be going kaput as a group.

The CM obviously had minimal detail other than that he confirmed the possibility that the band may not renew depending on Tyler's actions (I'm assuming he would have to agree with the others in renewing the contract).

Then, I got to thinking about the ride and looking at how it's designed. If Aerosmith didn't renew, it wouldn't be too hard to change the ride. On the facade remove the "featuring Aerosmith" off the guitar and take down the poster of them. Re-do the whole line queue presentation and re-do the story line. Then, change the soundtrack. What really got me to thinking, though, would be which band or bands would be a suitable replacement. Personally, I think KISS would be an excellent change out. Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons own the rights to the band and would gladly sign off on this one. They could really incorporate some cool new effects into the ride and the soundtrack would be pretty sweet. At first I thought some people may object to this due to the KISS image of the past not being too "family friendly", but look at Aerosmith and the past drug use and some lyrics of the band.

[jlewisinsyr]

Please tell me this "executive CM" was someone at Corporate, not in the parks, otherwise, it's no better then a bus driver rumor.

[ryanmcin]

Does executive river boat captain count?

[movie77]

That would be good news. I never really understood what a rock band had to do with the movies...

[ChrisFL]

That would be good news. I never really understood what a rock band had to do with the movies...

It has to do with Hollywood, part of the name change to Hollywood Studios....like American Idol, it also has nothing to do with movies

[movie77]

It has to do with Hollywood, part of the name change to Hollywood Studios....like American Idol, it also has nothing to do with movies

What does it have to do with Hollywood? AI is at least a TV show.

[Horace Horsecollar]

Hollywood is synonymous with the entertainment industry -- movies, television, music, radio, and the myriad of technical services that support the entertainment industry.

The Capitol Records building is an iconic landmark of Hollywood.

The old Charlie Chaplin Studios at the corner of La Brea and Sunset has been a movie studio, television studio, and music production facility. Chaplin sold the studio in 1957. The facility changed owners several times since then. Red Skelton filmed his classic CBS television series there. Then, for several decades, it was home of A&M Records. Now it's The Jim Henson Company.

Having a recording studio at Disney's Hollywood Studios makes complete sense.

What doesn't make sense is the design. It just doesn't fit in with the rest of Sunset Boulevard. The era is wrong. The architectural detail is wrong. The signage is out-of-place in the environment of Sunset Boulevard.

[ChrisFL]

What doesn't make sense is the design. It just doesn't fit in with the rest of Sunset Boulevard. The era is wrong. The architectural detail is wrong. The signage is out-of-place in the environment of Sunset Boulevard.

Now that is definitely true, but at least the main building is a bit far back.

[Disneynut6]

I think a good replacement to fit in the 1930's era would be Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. Swing music is popular during that era and the group did refresh swing music to be popular back in the 1990's. Disney can redo the outside to fit in with the storyline of Hollywood Studios. After all Disney plays "In the Mood" swing in the background music. I am sure Disney would have Jonas Brothers record a swing song for the coaster just in case most people are not familiar enough with Big Bad Voodoo Daddy.

[ChrisFL]

I think a good replacement to fit in the 1930's era would be Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. Swing music is popular during that era and the group did refresh swing music to be popular back in the 1990's. Disney can redo the outside to fit in with the storyline of Hollywood Studios. After all Disney plays "In the Mood" swing in the background music. I am sure Disney would have Jonas Brothers record a swing song for the coaster just in case most people are not familiar enough with Big Bad Voodoo Daddy.

Oooh, I like that, at least except for the Jonas Bros. part :thumbsup2

[TDSAXX]

The CM obviously had minimal detail other than that he confirmed the possibility that the band may not renew depending on Tyler's actions (I'm assuming he would have to agree with the others in renewing the contract).


So basically the CM confirmed that Aerosmith may or may not renew their contract. That's like confirming UFO's may or may not exist.

[BamaEd1]

I think a good replacement to fit in the 1930's era would be Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. Swing music is popular during that era and the group did refresh swing music to be popular back in the 1990's. Disney can redo the outside to fit in with the storyline of Hollywood Studios. After all Disney plays "In the Mood" swing in the background music. I am sure Disney would have Jonas Brothers record a swing song for the coaster just in case most people are not familiar enough with Big Bad Voodoo Daddy.

How about a re-theming for the proper era and using a Michael Buble sound-track. NICE!!!!!

[bgohre]

Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, seriously?

Let me think....Aerosmith vs Big Bad Voodoo Daddy...hmmmmmmmm:rolleyes1

[Jman]

I'm telling you...USE THE MUPPETS!

They are pushing them back into the public eye already with the YouTube channel "Muppet Studios", why not place Mr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem as the band!

The themeing would be perfect for the indoor rollercoaster and no more contracts since they OWN the rights to the Muppets.

USE the assets you bought from Henson's company Disney! Use them!

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

I'm telling you...USE THE MUPPETS!

They are pushing them back into the public eye already with the YouTube channel "Muppet Studios", why not place Mr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem as the band!

The themeing would be perfect for the indoor rollercoaster and no more contracts since they OWN the rights to the Muppets.

USE the assets you bought from Henson's company Disney! Use them!

Even though I would rather it stay the same (for now), best idea I have heard about a replacement....I love the Muppets and Electric Mayhem would rock! the only thing that would make me happier is probably if they used U2, which will never happen because they are on Universal's label.

[Stumpy]

So basically the CM confirmed that Aerosmith may or may not renew their contract. That's like confirming UFO's may or may not exist.

Wow, that's the spirit! Shall I rephrase? The CM was not quite able to provide much more elaboration, but inferred that there is a distinct possibility of them not renewing.

And yes, the CM was at the executive level, not an hourly employee at the park.

[movie77]

Hollywood is synonymous with the entertainment industry -- movies, television, music, radio, and the myriad of technical services that support the entertainment industry.

The Capitol Records building is an iconic landmark of Hollywood.

The old Charlie Chaplin Studios at the corner of La Brea and Sunset has been a movie studio, television studio, and music production facility. Chaplin sold the studio in 1957. The facility changed owners several times since then. Red Skelton filmed his classic CBS television series there. Then, for several decades, it was home of A&M Records. Now it's The Jim Henson Company.

Having a recording studio at Disney's Hollywood Studios makes complete sense.

What doesn't make sense is the design. It just doesn't fit in with the rest of Sunset Boulevard. The era is wrong. The architectural detail is wrong. The signage is out-of-place in the environment of Sunset Boulevard.

I just don't think the public at large thinks music when they see the big Hollywood sign, sorry. Hollywood is known for movies not music IMO.

[ChrisFL]

I just don't think the public at large thinks music when they see the big Hollywood sign, sorry. Hollywood is known for movies not music IMO.

Um...ok...so what city do you think of when you think of music production?

[Horace Horsecollar]

I just don't think the public at large thinks music when they see the big Hollywood sign, sorry. Hollywood is known for movies not music IMO.
And what industry is music production part of, if not the entertainment industry?

[jfinke]

Um...ok...so what city do you think of when you think of music production?

I will take LA for $1000, Alex. I wonder if that is near Hollywood?

For country I will take Nashville.

For Blues I will take KC and Memphis.

[doconeill]

I will take LA for $1000, Alex. I wonder if that is near Hollywood?

For country I will take Nashville.

For Blues I will take KC and Memphis.

Don't forget Motown!!!

[Mrs. Charming]

I'm telling you...USE THE MUPPETS!

They are pushing them back into the public eye already with the YouTube channel "Muppet Studios", why not place Mr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem as the band!

The themeing would be perfect for the indoor rollercoaster and no more contracts since they OWN the rights to the Muppets.

USE the assets you bought from Henson's company Disney! Use them!

Ohhh I like that idea!! :woohoo:

[doconeill]

Hmm...this campfire could use a little fuel... :)

Aerosmith's Steven Tyler Enters Rehab (http://wbztv.com/local/Steven.Tyler.rehab.2.1387310.html)

No, I don't really think this is changing anyone's decisions on anything at this point.

[nate4three]

disney will look at in house brands....like Hanah Montana and Jonas Bros...c'mon...With disney it is all about the money

[Jessfrogger88]

I love the ride as is....


If they had to retheme I would want another established band like U2

I do love the muppets and would be cool with them.


Music industry goes hand in hand with Hollywood.... I think most people would agree with that... Heck one of the parking lots is "Music".

If Hannah or Jonas or any other flash in the pan pop star/ disney channel original takes over the ride I will projectile vomit.

[MJMcBride]

unless a source is named, I take it with a grain of salt

[Cobra B.]

My vote is for the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They are from Hollywood and they have a great song for the soundtrack... cover of Love Roller Coaster.

[ChrisFL]

My vote is for the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They are from Hollywood and they have a great song for the soundtrack... cover of Stevie Wonder's Love Roller Coaster.

It could happen, since they were already at DL's Space Mountain for a short period of time

[d1gitman]

if they wanted to keep it to an in house franchise, they could easily retheme it to fantasia. then again, would probably be fantasia/fantasmic overkill in one park.

personally i think retheming it to Meet the Robinsons would be a good choice. i wish they would incorporate that movie into at least one of the parks.

[Evi]

hrm I think it would be more then re -theming essentially you would strip the ride down only to the coaster and redesign everything else its not like you could just change one sign its a lot of Boston stuff in there down to the donuts which represents dunkin donuts

[d1gitman]

hrm I think it would be more then re -theming essentially you would strip the ride down only to the coaster and redesign everything else its not like you could just change one sign its a lot of Boston stuff in there down to the donuts which represents dunkin donuts

hence the term, re-theming. whatever it gets changed to, assuming it does change, the donuts and street signs, etc. would probably go. all the ride is is an indoor coaster with props. changing the props would be easy IMHO.

[Dollyrar]

I would so go with Metallica as a possible replacement! I can just imagine doing that initial 360 with 'fuel' ringing in my ears! :goodvibes
Van Halen, Queen, Guns 'n' roses, Bruce Springsteen or (although least likely) The Beatles would all be awesome replacements if required! :love:

[Mrs. Charming]

I would so go with Metallica as a possible replacement! I can just imagine doing that initial 360 with 'fuel' ringing in my ears! :goodvibes
Van Halen, Queen, Guns 'n' roses, Bruce Springsteen or (although least likely) The Beatles would all be awesome replacements if required! :love:

Metallica would be awesome! :banana:

[ChrisFL]

hence the term, re-theming. whatever it gets changed to, assuming it does change, the donuts and street signs, etc. would probably go. all the ride is is an indoor coaster with props. changing the props would be easy IMHO.

The entire rest of the ride is designed as a recording studio, and that massive guitar outside, so it would have to be some kind of rock/pop theme or they'd have to change a LOT of stuff.

I personally think the Beatles would be great, why not have the greatest band in history.

U2 would also be good, but we all have our different opinions on it.

[LWQuestie]

hrm I think it would be more then re -theming essentially you would strip the ride down only to the coaster and redesign everything else its not like you could just change one sign its a lot of Boston stuff in there down to the donuts which represents dunkin donuts

The donut sign is for Randy's Donuts in LA, not Dunkies.

[gary403]

I think Michael Jackson would be appropriate.

[d1gitman]

It would never happen since the lead singer is deceased but Boston would be awesome for this ride. They could use the song "Cool the Engines" from the Third Stage album. The lyrics would fit perfect.

Now I like takin' off
Don't like burnin' out
Every time you turn it on
Makes me want to shout
We keep getting hotter
Movin' way too fast
If we don't slow this fire down
We're not gonna last


Cool the engines
Red line's gettin' near
Cool the engines
Better take it out of gear


I'm no fool
I'm gonna keep it cool
and take it day by day
We won't know where we might go
'Till we take it all the way


Take me for a ride
Take me all the way
Take me where I've never been
Someplace I can stay
Don't get yourself too hot
Don't get yourself too high
If we don't take it easy now
We can kiss it all goodbye

Cool the engines
Slow this rocket down
Cool the engines
Why don't ya take a look around

I'm no fool, gonna keep it cool
Take it day by day
We won't know where we might go
'Till we take it all the way

Cool the engines
Cool the engines
Goin' over the line
Goin' off the dial
Runnin' out of time
And it's gettin' wild

Got flashin' lights
Goin' 'round and 'round
Until we get it right
Better cool it down
Better cool it down.

Cool the engines.

And now we're on our way
No need to hurry just to get from day to day
And I, oooh, I know
We don't have to run that hard to get where we can go.

Cool the engines.

Cool the engines down.

Cool the engines.

Cool the engines down.

[DVCDawn]

Bon Jovi

Listen, Jon Bon Jovi has to be a Disney fan to some degree -- the last time I stayed at Disney's Vero Beach resort he and his family were guests as well.

And, yes, let me answer your questions before you ask, I do have a photo of him in the pool. Shirtless, natch.

DVCDawn :tink:

[DannyDisneyFreak]

I love how news and rumors turn into guessing and opinions...
My own two cents worth on the whole RnRC fitting into the themeing of HS: I believe MGM was originally devoted to mostly movies as a competor to Universal, thinking more loosely as Hollywood studios the music industry does fit, the Grammy's are currently held in LA (although previously in NY and Nashville) and hollywood is more loosely "entertainment". I would advocate for a more movie and televison themeing of HS but I am smart enough to know it is more about brand than theme... my guess is that a Jonas theme would be in Disney's greater intrest, plus Jonas would be more "hollywood" for manys liking... although I in no shape or form advocate for Jonas... to further take this from actual news/rumors I would say that the rollercoaster could possibly be rethemed to not have to do with music at all, I would say make it fit better in with the sunset blvd era and backdrop... idk what ill leave that to the imaginears and speculators on the DIS...

[MomofKatie]

Bon Jovi

Listen, Jon Bon Jovi has to be a Disney fan to some degree -- the last time I stayed at Disney's Vero Beach resort he and his family were guests as well.

And, yes, let me answer your questions before you ask, I do have a photo of him in the pool. Shirtless, natch.

DVCDawn :tink:

I think we need to see the picture!!!

[fnrsgrl]

It seems to me like they wouldn't want to use a performer like Hannah Montana or the Jonas Brothers because they would need an established band to be sure they wouldn't have to retheme it again in five years. Teenybopper pop groups don't typically stay popular for very long.

[yitbos96bb]

I know rumors have circulated around about this, but got confirmation of situation by executive CM. Basically, Disney has not yet renewed the contract with Aerosmith to keep them as the feature of RnR. And, as many of you know, the band is on-again off-again. Steven Tyler fell off the wagon (and stage) this summer and then band members hinted that he was going his own way. Then, he came out with the band to say they are not breaking up to say later that he wants to market "brand Tyler" in a different manner and suggested again they may be going kaput as a group.

The CM obviously had minimal detail other than that he confirmed the possibility that the band may not renew depending on Tyler's actions (I'm assuming he would have to agree with the others in renewing the contract).

Then, I got to thinking about the ride and looking at how it's designed. If Aerosmith didn't renew, it wouldn't be too hard to change the ride. On the facade remove the "featuring Aerosmith" off the guitar and take down the poster of them. Re-do the whole line queue presentation and re-do the story line. Then, change the soundtrack. What really got me to thinking, though, would be which band or bands would be a suitable replacement. Personally, I think KISS would be an excellent change out. Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons own the rights to the band and would gladly sign off on this one. They could really incorporate some cool new effects into the ride and the soundtrack would be pretty sweet. At first I thought some people may object to this due to the KISS image of the past not being too "family friendly", but look at Aerosmith and the past drug use and some lyrics of the band.

Either way, they can finally remove the lewd gesture by Steven Tyler in the pre-show as well as the line telling the person to grab his guitar... they used to have a cast member pick it up and walk out with it... one of those little details that added so much that are now strangely absent.

[yitbos96bb]

It has to do with Hollywood, part of the name change to Hollywood Studios....like American Idol, it also has nothing to do with movies

Oh no... Please god don't let it be an American Idol themed ride.... getting them to the hall for the American Idol losers tour.... PLEASE NO!!!

[yitbos96bb]

Hollywood is synonymous with the entertainment industry -- movies, television, music, radio, and the myriad of technical services that support the entertainment industry.

The Capitol Records building is an iconic landmark of Hollywood.

The old Charlie Chaplin Studios at the corner of La Brea and Sunset has been a movie studio, television studio, and music production facility. Chaplin sold the studio in 1957. The facility changed owners several times since then. Red Skelton filmed his classic CBS television series there. Then, for several decades, it was home of A&M Records. Now it's The Jim Henson Company.

Having a recording studio at Disney's Hollywood Studios makes complete sense.

What doesn't make sense is the design. It just doesn't fit in with the rest of Sunset Boulevard. The era is wrong. The architectural detail is wrong. The signage is out-of-place in the environment of Sunset Boulevard.

Plus you put two of your most popular attractions in the same area as well as your night time Spectacular, leading to a really bad situation when all three collide.

Agree with you, it was a terrible choice. They should have killed the Backlot tour and but it there or maybe put it in the giant HAT :-D

[yitbos96bb]

So basically the CM confirmed that Aerosmith may or may not renew their contract. That's like confirming UFO's may or may not exist.

Maybe, but the logic makes sense given Tylers flakiness as of late, plus his rehab stint. I could believe it easily.

I'm betting they don't replace with a Name band. They use a fictional band instead and just use several songs by Disney artists like Jonas, etc since we are just listening to the radio

[yitbos96bb]

I'm telling you...USE THE MUPPETS!

They are pushing them back into the public eye already with the YouTube channel "Muppet Studios", why not place Mr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem as the band!

The themeing would be perfect for the indoor rollercoaster and no more contracts since they OWN the rights to the Muppets.

USE the assets you bought from Henson's company Disney! Use them!

DUDE... Heck of an idea... especially with the new movie coming out in the next few years. I mean the Muppets Bohemian Rhapsody was fantastic... Animal saying MAMA had me rolling. And Beakers ode to joy...

[yitbos96bb]

I will take LA for $1000, Alex. I wonder if that is near Hollywood?

For country I will take Nashville.

For Blues I will take KC and Memphis.

Chicago for Blues as well...

New Orleans for Jazz....


Of course music is part of this... By saying all you are reminded of is movies, then we should kill any TV themed stuff as well.

[yitbos96bb]

Four Little Words...

RED....

HOT....

CHILI....

PEPPERS....


Not only one of the top bands of all time, but what current act is more quintessentially LA than the Peppers. Heck, Dani California, Californication, etc.

[Cobra B.]

My vote is for the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They are from Hollywood and they have a great song for the soundtrack... cover of Stevie Wonder's Love Roller Coaster.

Totally agree Yitbos...

[MJMcBride]

I would U2 myself but mostly because I am not a RHCP fan

maybe they should just do the Beatles and drag those British Invasion guys over from Epcot

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

U2:
Just play these songs and imagine how it would sound on a roller coaster
Vertigo, Elevation, Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me, Mysterious Ways, Even Better Than the Real Thing, Magnificent.....would make for a killer experience.

[yitbos96bb]

U2:
Just play these songs and imagine how it would sound on a roller coaster
Vertigo, Elevation, Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me, Mysterious Ways, Even Better Than the Real Thing, Magnificent.....would make for a killer experience.

Never been a U2 fan... I like a few songs, but other than that, never understood the hype.

Plus I can't think of U2 without thinking of the South Park episode that's a parody of King of Kong... "How could Bono be so talented, so caring, and yet seem like such a piece of ****? Because he is ****. Don't you get it? Bono is not the record holder..."

Man that's a funny episode. And now everytime I see or hear U2, that's all I can ever think of.

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

Never been a U2 fan... I like a few songs, but other than that, never understood the hype.

Plus I can't think of U2 without thinking of the South Park episode that's a parody of King of Kong... "How could Bono be so talented, so caring, and yet seem like such a piece of ****? Because he is ****. Don't you get it? Bono is not the record holder..."

Man that's a funny episode. And now everytime I see or hear U2, that's all I can ever think of.

That's unfortunate then that someone's narrow minded view of the band becomes your broad minded view.

[jlewisinsyr]

That's unfortunate then that someone's narrow minded view of the band becomes your broad minded view.

Its funny how you get yourself so worked up over someone elses opinion.

[Chelley00]

Bon Jovi

Listen, Jon Bon Jovi has to be a Disney fan to some degree -- the last time I stayed at Disney's Vero Beach resort he and his family were guests as well.:

He was at AKL in November this year!! A CM pointed him out and by the time I got my camera out, he was down the hall :(

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

Its funny how you get yourself so worked up over someone elses opinion.

it's funny how you got worked up for me voicing my opinion, my friend. double standard?

[MJMcBride]

I say just use the Imagination Movers and be done with it

[tony67]

That's unfortunate then that someone's narrow minded view of the band becomes your broad minded view.

Yeah Bono is brilliant.

Everyone should pay their taxes and forgive third world dept, except U2.
We’re going to pay our taxes in a country with a lower tax rate and screw Ireland.

He's a real hero.

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

Yeah Bono is brilliant.

Everyone should pay their taxes and forgive third world dept, except U2.
We’re going to pay our taxes in a country with a lower tax rate and screw Ireland.

He's a real hero.

this one is always funny.....always the last resort argument from a hater.

I still vote Muppets by the way......

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

Four Little Words...

RED....

HOT....

CHILI....

PEPPERS....


Not only one of the top bands of all time, but what current act is more quintessentially LA than the Peppers. Heck, Dani California, Californication, etc.

I do like the Chili Peppers...lots of hits..totally Hollywood, songs that are perfect for a roller coaster. but didn't the guitarist just leave the band? I heard they are moving on without him, though. He is a great guitarist so sad to see him leave.

[mwmuntz]

"Disney's Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Featuring VAN HALEN" has a nice ring to it!

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

"Disney's Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Featuring VAN HALEN" has a nice ring to it!

PANAMA!! JUMP!! etc, etc. :)

[tony67]

this one is always funny.....always the last resort argument from a hater.

I still vote Muppets by the way......
A hater who listened to their first show at the paradise in Boston on WBCN because I was too young to go to the show?
A hater who was at their first show at the Orpheum in Boston before people even knew who they were?
That was back when people thought the song Gloria was a song by Shena Easton.

Funny how people will defend Bono over saving taxes and beat up Bill Gates (or any other corporate guy).
(This is a general observation and not directed at you personally, unlike your calling me a hater)

I don't mind him looking to cut his taxes, but don't preach to the rest of us.
Bill gates probably does more for charity then Bono IMO.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand.

I like the Muppets idea.

One thing the Muppets have is proven staying power, but they already have one Muppets area, I cannot see them adding a second.

Insane Clown Posse would be interesting, the music would work on the ride, but they already had their time with Disney ;) and there is no way Disney would do anything with them ever again.

If the Marvel deal goes through then maybe they can do something with one of those characters. I would like Ghost Rider myself, but not the one from the Movie. Don't see that happening though.

At the end of the day anything but the Jonas Brothers (or any other Disney flavor of the week) works for me.

Hopefully they will just keep it Aerosmith and not make any rush decisions.
I think it works really well, but I do HATE the video at the beginning after seeing it 100s of times.

[jlewisinsyr]

it's funny how you got worked up for me voicing my opinion, my friend. double standard?

I don't think I said anything that would indicate I am worked up. My post was quite tame and in jest, more then we can say for yours which was much more pointed, almost degrading to the other poster, thus the comment.

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

I don't think I said anything that would indicate I am worked up. My post was quite tame and in jest, more then we can say for yours which was much more pointed, almost degrading to the other poster, thus the comment.

I apologize. I did not mean to degrade the other poster. I did not intend that, all I said was that it was unfortunate he felt that way based on a South Park episode. In fact, you could possibily take his comment as degrading toward someone who liked U2. His comment and the other guy who piped in, bringing politics in the mix. I did think his comment was coming out of left field seeing that all I brought up was about the music. It's funny, though. You mention U2 and bring out the haters and the haters that claim that they have been fans for 20+ years, and then they talk about how they disagree with politics but how they love that South Park episode and take the negative media as truth. That's all well and good, but why was it necessary here? And who is "we"? You guys gang up on people around here who disagree?
Since South Park was brought up, I will say I do not get all the South Park worship, though. I think the FCC was asleep on the wheel on that one. Never has there been another show as cynical and sarcastic on the tube than that one....that and Family Guy....but that is another topic. Are these exports that America can be proud of? How do the other countries view us when they see this tripe on TV?

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

A hater who listened to their first show at the paradise in Boston on WBCN because I was too young to go to the show?
A hater who was at their first show at the Orpheum in Boston before people even knew who they were?
That was back when people thought the song Gloria was a song by Shena Easton.

Funny how people will defend Bono over saving taxes and beat up Bill Gates (or any other corporate guy).
(This is a general observation and not directed at you personally, unlike your calling me a hater)

I don't mind him looking to cut his taxes, but don't preach to the rest of us.
Bill gates probably does more for charity then Bono IMO.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand.

I like the Muppets idea.

One thing the Muppets have is proven staying power, but they already have one Muppets area, I cannot see them adding a second.

Insane Clown Posse would be interesting, the music would work on the ride, but they already had their time with Disney ;) and there is no way Disney would do anything with them ever again.

If the Marvel deal goes through then maybe they can do something with one of those characters. I would like Ghost Rider myself, but not the one from the Movie. Don't see that happening though.

At the end of the day anything but the Jonas Brothers (or any other Disney flavor of the week) works for me.

Hopefully they will just keep it Aerosmith and not make any rush decisions.
I think it works really well, but I do HATE the video at the beginning after seeing it 100s of times.

Laura Brannigan sang Gloria. Hopefully you at least set them straight on that.
Aren't Bono and Gates friends? Haven't they worked together on things? It's interesting you brought him up. Quote:
Praising Gates for his work with the ONE campaign and Project RED, Bono noted that "Without him, and without his business, we just wouldn't be where we are today."
Muppets forever.

[jlewisinsyr]

I think the FCC was asleep on the wheel on that one. Never has there been another show as cynical and sarcastic on the tube than that one....that and Family Guy....but that is another topic. Are these exports that America can be proud of? How do the other countries view us when they see this tripe on TV?

Have you seen some of the shows in Europe? To be honest Americans in general (note I am an American) are some of the most uptight individuals in the world. You can basically catch what most Americans deem as porn on public television in the UK and Europe.

I find Family Guy quite hysterical, it makes fun of everything and everybody, which is why its funny. It points out stereotypes that are often hush, hush, but exist. So which is worst, not talking about a stereotypes and think they'll go away, or flat out pointing them out?

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

Have you seen some of the shows in Europe? To be honest Americans in general (note I am an American) are some of the most uptight individuals in the world. You can basically catch what most Americans deem as porn on public television in the UK and Europe.

I find Family Guy quite hysterical, it makes fun of everything and everybody, which is why its funny. It points out stereotypes that are often hush, hush, but exist. So which is worst, not talking about a stereotypes and think they'll go away, or flat out pointing them out?

Yes, I know this. I agree with you to a point, but the way that this type of humor has invaded all of our social consciousness is what I disagree with mostly. FG and SP are/were mainstream and now people are more sarcastic, cynical because of it, IMO. Do you think these shows have helped? I think, if anything, people are more cynical now. Again, nothing is sacred. And, just because something is okay/acceptable in Europe, does that mean everyone should adopt the same principles?

[yitbos96bb]

That's unfortunate then that someone's narrow minded view of the band becomes your broad minded view.

I think you are taking what I said the wrong way... South Park is absurdist satire and that episode is an excellent example. Plus, Bono does have a reputation of not being the nicest of people, which the episode is making fun of. It didn't make me think less of U2 or Bono, I simply found it so funny to use Bono in a King of Kong Parody... If you haven't seen the episode, check it out because the line I quoted is relevant to the topic. Remember though, while it is poking fun of the paradoxical reputation Bono has of being someone who is striving to make a difference and save the world, yet kind of acting like a jerk in his private life (just repeating the perceived reputation, I don't know what he is ACTUALLY like in private), the episode is more of a King of Kong Parody, with Bono filling the Billy Mitchell role (and if you haven't seen King of Kong... FANTASTIC MOVIE... I highly recommend).

The episode made me laugh and since I have never fallen into the U2 crowd and always considered them a decent band with a couple of great songs (just my opinion is all, others obviously disagree... I just always preferred bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Sublime, RHCP, Phish to U2)... so I immediately conjur up that episode in my head when I hear the name U2... That episode didn't shape my view of U2, Bono or their music... that was shaped by hearing their music (which rarely did much for me... I feel the same way about Cold Play... they have some amazing songs, but i'm not a huge fan of the overall body of work) and reading about the good and bad. Hey I love GNR but think Axl rose is a piece of garbage.

I do the same thing with Kanye and the Fishsticks episode too... Kanye not getting the joke and freaking out about it is just hysterical... and probably hits closer to home than we think after his Taylor Swift outburst (although he was right, Beyonce's video and song were WAY better than Swift's).

[yitbos96bb]

I say just use the Imagination Movers and be done with it

I hate to say this but who?

[yitbos96bb]

:-)

[yitbos96bb]

this one is always funny.....always the last resort argument from a hater.

I still vote Muppets by the way......

I'm still with you on the Muppets...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbNymZ7vqY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnT7pT6zCcA

http://www.youtube.com/user/MuppetsStudio#p/u/1/ysIzPF3BfpQ


Oh heck, too much good stuff... just check out the channel for those who haven't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MuppetsStudio

[yitbos96bb]

I do like the Chili Peppers...lots of hits..totally Hollywood, songs that are perfect for a roller coaster. but didn't the guitarist just leave the band? I heard they are moving on without him, though. He is a great guitarist so sad to see him leave.

Kiedis, Flea and Smith are all still there. Frusciante has left before, in 1992 after Blood, Sugar, Sex and Magik due to drug addiction. He was replaced by Dave Navarro who was fired in 1997. Frusciante returned in 1998 after being clean for several years and left after RHCP went on Hiatus following Stadium Arcadium, although it wasn't officially announced until now. Personally, I think Kiedis is the key along with Flea, although musically Smith is huge... but for a ride, you need Kiedis and Flea (memories of Back to the Future 3 with Needles) IMHO. Josh Klinghoffer who is a very close friend of Frusciante's is replacing him in the band... from what I have heard, Frusciante wants to focus on solo stuff and there is no animosity, unlike with Tyler and Aerosmith. Klinghoffer is a studio musician who has toured with a lot of big names.

[yitbos96bb]

"Disney's Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Featuring VAN HALEN" has a nice ring to it!

I'm not sure replacing one band with a history of disfunction with the kings of band disfunction is a good idea. Plus do you go with the Good Early Roth Years, the mediocre Hagar years or the fading incarnation with the return of Roth but the ho-hum Wolfgang Van Halen (Replacing Anthony) and an Eddie who just doesn't have the chops he used to (He's still REALLY good, just not what he was 20 years ago, IMHO, which is to be expected given his age.)

[yitbos96bb]

I'm sure their decision will be based on 1) Tyler completing Rehab and 2) The band keeping Tyler. If Steven leaves, say good bye to Aerosmith... Very few bands can pull off losing the face of the band and survive.... I mean the Stones without Mick (or Keith), Van Halen without Roth was always Meh. Really the only two, IMHO to pull it off were Pink Floyd going from Waters to Gilmore (Pulse was AMAZING) and AC/DC (which to me always felt like two different bands, but both very good... plus Bon Scott died and didn't leave).



A hater who listened to their first show at the paradise in Boston on WBCN because I was too young to go to the show?
A hater who was at their first show at the Orpheum in Boston before people even knew who they were?
That was back when people thought the song Gloria was a song by Shena Easton.

Funny how people will defend Bono over saving taxes and beat up Bill Gates (or any other corporate guy).
(This is a general observation and not directed at you personally, unlike your calling me a hater)

I don't mind him looking to cut his taxes, but don't preach to the rest of us.
Bill gates probably does more for charity then Bono IMO.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand.

I like the Muppets idea.

One thing the Muppets have is proven staying power, but they already have one Muppets area, I cannot see them adding a second.

Insane Clown Posse would be interesting, the music would work on the ride, but they already had their time with Disney ;) and there is no way Disney would do anything with them ever again.

If the Marvel deal goes through then maybe they can do something with one of those characters. I would like Ghost Rider myself, but not the one from the Movie. Don't see that happening though.

At the end of the day anything but the Jonas Brothers (or any other Disney flavor of the week) works for me.

Hopefully they will just keep it Aerosmith and not make any rush decisions.
I think it works really well, but I do HATE the video at the beginning after seeing it 100s of times.

[yitbos96bb]

I apologize. I did not mean to degrade the other poster. I did not intend that, all I said was that it was unfortunate he felt that way based on a South Park episode. In fact, you could possibily take his comment as degrading toward someone who liked U2. His comment and the other guy who piped in, bringing politics in the mix. I did think his comment was coming out of left field seeing that all I brought up was about the music. It's funny, though. You mention U2 and bring out the haters and the haters that claim that they have been fans for 20+ years, and then they talk about how they disagree with politics but how they love that South Park episode and take the negative media as truth. That's all well and good, but why was it necessary here? And who is "we"? You guys gang up on people around here who disagree?
Since South Park was brought up, I will say I do not get all the South Park worship, though. I think the FCC was asleep on the wheel on that one. Never has there been another show as cynical and sarcastic on the tube than that one....that and Family Guy....but that is another topic. Are these exports that America can be proud of? How do the other countries view us when they see this tripe on TV?

Well first, you are mixing up the two of us... I have never claimed to be a 20 year U2 Fan, did not bring in politics (in fact, I applaud Bono's humantarian work and wish more people with means were like that) and simply said I found it funny and when I see Bono, I think of that episode. In no way did I say or imply my opinion of U2 or Bono was based on a South Park episode. It's not. I've never been a big fan of U2 and have always felt they were overrated as a band... nothing against anyone who loves them, just my opinion is all... I feel the same way about the Rolling Stones... some GREAT songs, but never blown away by the overall body of work... Heck, there are even people out there who hate the Beatles (not me, but some)... we all have our tastes.

I posted more in response to your earlier reply talking about the parody of the pop culture debate on Bono, so please check that out. I simply find the satire in that episode funny and because I find it funny, I think of it when I see the object of the Satire. Kind of like I've been imagining Matt Damon as a hard core psychopathic activist from the Season finale of Entourage, everytime I see an Ocean's 13 or Bourne movie commercial ("Sorry Bro, He Jason Bourned me!)... I don't actually think that Damon's like that, but it was so effectively done he makes me think of it.

South Park is absurdist pop culture satire, as well as parody. Absurdism is a hard genre to watch sometime, but if you are into it and appreciate you can really experience some BRILLIANT satire.

The pop culture nuances and brutal satire are what make the show enjoyable to me. In fact the earlier episodes are my least favorite. If you don't like that kind of thing, then I can understand not appreciating the show. But there is some real brilliance in there... The show constantly points out the stupidity of the public (represented by the adults) as viewed through the eyes of the kids in various situations... either the stupid decisions or how easy they can be manipulated (usually by Cartman). They have parodied Les Miserables (Trey Parker is a big musical fan) and Disney films in the movie. They have parodied Titus Andronicus for goodness sakes (Scott Tenorman must die, still my favorite episode)... They have produced brilliant satire on all types of religion and politics (including a great Elian Gonzalez type episode and Glenn Beck with Cartman turning the morning announcements into a Glenn Beck type show). I mean these two are really intelligent guys and the last 10 years or so have really reminded me of the job the Simpsons did of pushing the pop culture button from Season 4 to about Season 10-11. Try watching it from that point of view sometime and really try to feel the satire and parody... to me that's always the best way to enjoy the show. Of course, some just aren't into Satirical humor and that's cool... took me years to appreciate British Humor and still not a huge Slap Stick humor fan... different strokes. But that's why many of the people who love south park do... kind of like a lot of the Disney and Pixar films, there is an initial visceral level that pleases one group of viewers and a deeper, meaningful level to please others. Count me in the latter group.

[yitbos96bb]

Yes, I know this. I agree with you to a point, but the way that this type of humor has invaded all of our social consciousness is what I disagree with mostly. FG and SP are/were mainstream and now people are more sarcastic, cynical because of it, IMO. Do you think these shows have helped? I think, if anything, people are more cynical now. Again, nothing is sacred. And, just because something is okay/acceptable in Europe, does that mean everyone should adopt the same principles?

Come on... you can't honestly think that those TV shows have made people more cynical, etc? You are talking about two shows that are lucky to draw 15 million viewers COMBINED per week... when both are in first runs out of the 250 Million Americans.

That's not even close to the Top rated programs. Too many people try to pinpoint that kind of think on a TV show. And that kind of behavior has been prevalent in Films and TV WAY before FG or SP came on the Scene... the Average viewer of both of those shows is late 20's to Early 30's.

Have you watched the Hannah Montana, Suite Life, etc type shows? All the characters show sarcasm and cynicism. You could just as easily point to that as a reason...

But honestly, there is no evidence showing that any of that has any true or lasting effect on kids or adults. Really, its generally behavior learned by watching parental interactions, not TV.

Sorry, I've always found that line of argument (which has been used against various shows and bands for Decades... Elvis, The Beatles, Heavy Metal, Grunge, Britney Spears, The Simpsons, Archie Bunker, etc) to be a big time straw man argument. Every generation its made against pop culture elements of the day. It's the same argument that political figures try to make in election years trying to find a menace to scare voters with, when scientific studies have not shown links to this.

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

Come on... you can't honestly think that those TV shows have made people more cynical, etc? You are talking about two shows that are lucky to draw 15 million viewers COMBINED per week... when both are in first runs out of the 250 Million Americans.

That's not even close to the Top rated programs. Too many people try to pinpoint that kind of think on a TV show. And that kind of behavior has been prevalent in Films and TV WAY before FG or SP came on the Scene... the Average viewer of both of those shows is late 20's to Early 30's.

Have you watched the Hannah Montana, Suite Life, etc type shows? All the characters show sarcasm and cynicism. You could just as easily point to that as a reason...

But honestly, there is no evidence showing that any of that has any true or lasting effect on kids or adults. Really, its generally behavior learned by watching parental interactions, not TV.

Sorry, I've always found that line of argument (which has been used against various shows and bands for Decades... Elvis, The Beatles, Heavy Metal, Grunge, Britney Spears, The Simpsons, Archie Bunker, etc) to be a big time straw man argument. Every generation its made against pop culture elements of the day. It's the same argument that political figures try to make in election years trying to find a menace to scare voters with, when scientific studies have not shown links to this.

I would say not solely because of these shows, but certainly due to the help of shows like this, we cannot but help to avoid being more cynical as a society. I am sure I would laugh at a few scenes/episodes of these shows myself, but I do feel a danger when shows like this become so mainstream.
If Hannah and Suite Life are sarcastic as well, then where did it start? I could say that SP and shows like FG have "something" to do with it....
I agree with you, I would no say there is any evidence to prove a link to this, I just fear that when you cut corners, such as with shows like these, then there are others just waiting in the wings to go even further. I am just of the opinion that there has to be some limits at least somewhere.
I am not attacking you, by the way, it's just a matter of taste and opinion that's all. Peace.

[NoLineOntheHorizon]

Well first, you are mixing up the two of us... I have never claimed to be a 20 year U2 Fan, did not bring in politics (in fact, I applaud Bono's humantarian work and wish more people with means were like that) and simply said I found it funny and when I see Bono, I think of that episode. In no way did I say or imply my opinion of U2 or Bono was based on a South Park episode. It's not. I've never been a big fan of U2 and have always felt they were overrated as a band... nothing against anyone who loves them, just my opinion is all... I feel the same way about the Rolling Stones... some GREAT songs, but never blown away by the overall body of work... Heck, there are even people out there who hate the Beatles (not me, but some)... we all have our tastes.

I posted more in response to your earlier reply talking about the parody of the pop culture debate on Bono, so please check that out. I simply find the satire in that episode funny and because I find it funny, I think of it when I see the object of the Satire. Kind of like I've been imagining Matt Damon as a hard core psychopathic activist from the Season finale of Entourage, everytime I see an Ocean's 13 or Bourne movie commercial ("Sorry Bro, He Jason Bourned me!)... I don't actually think that Damon's like that, but it was so effectively done he makes me think of it.

South Park is absurdist pop culture satire, as well as parody. Absurdism is a hard genre to watch sometime, but if you are into it and appreciate you can really experience some BRILLIANT satire.

The pop culture nuances and brutal satire are what make the show enjoyable to me. In fact the earlier episodes are my least favorite. If you don't like that kind of thing, then I can understand not appreciating the show. But there is some real brilliance in there... The show constantly points out the stupidity of the public (represented by the adults) as viewed through the eyes of the kids in various situations... either the stupid decisions or how easy they can be manipulated (usually by Cartman). They have parodied Les Miserables (Trey Parker is a big musical fan) and Disney films in the movie. They have parodied Titus Andronicus for goodness sakes (Scott Tenorman must die, still my favorite episode)... They have produced brilliant satire on all types of religion and politics (including a great Elian Gonzalez type episode and Glenn Beck with Cartman turning the morning announcements into a Glenn Beck type show). I mean these two are really intelligent guys and the last 10 years or so have really reminded me of the job the Simpsons did of pushing the pop culture button from Season 4 to about Season 10-11. Try watching it from that point of view sometime and really try to feel the satire and parody... to me that's always the best way to enjoy the show. Of course, some just aren't into Satirical humor and that's cool... took me years to appreciate British Humor and still not a huge Slap Stick humor fan... different strokes. But that's why many of the people who love south park do... kind of like a lot of the Disney and Pixar films, there is an initial visceral level that pleases one group of viewers and a deeper, meaningful level to please others. Count me in the latter group.

Okay, i like your post and I appreciate your reply. I don't doubt their intelligence(the creators of South Park), just sometimes disagree with their method, that's all. Thanks again. Check out Achtung Baby and read what those songs are about...it was enlightening to me. Maybe you will enjoy it as well. Happy New Year to you.

[yitbos96bb]

Okay, i like your post and I appreciate your reply. I don't doubt their intelligence(the creators of South Park), just sometimes disagree with their method, that's all. Thanks again. Check out Achtung Baby and read what those songs are about...it was enlightening to me. Maybe you will enjoy it as well. Happy New Year to you.

Oh that's cool... I mean, different types of entertainment appeal to different folks. I find the 3 stooges somewhat funny, but no where near as funny as others do. Same with shows like Raymond and 2 and a half men... I always preferred shows like Arrested Development, Weeds, the Office and 30 rock to those shows. I was just saying look past the blue jokes there is more to them.

I've listened to most of what U2 has done... I'm not sure what it is... The funny thing is, I think they are ubertalented and deserve the fan following they have... for whatever reason, they just don't do it for me... I guess I either like more jam bandy such as Phish or more biting such as RHCP, Pumpkins, Nirvana, etc. Of course Sublime doesn't fit either, but I just like them period. However, them especially I can see being an aquired taste.

[yitbos96bb]

I would say not solely because of these shows, but certainly due to the help of shows like this, we cannot but help to avoid being more cynical as a society. I am sure I would laugh at a few scenes/episodes of these shows myself, but I do feel a danger when shows like this become so mainstream.
If Hannah and Suite Life are sarcastic as well, then where did it start? I could say that SP and shows like FG have "something" to do with it....
I agree with you, I would no say there is any evidence to prove a link to this, I just fear that when you cut corners, such as with shows like these, then there are others just waiting in the wings to go even further. I am just of the opinion that there has to be some limits at least somewhere.
I am not attacking you, by the way, it's just a matter of taste and opinion that's all. Peace.

Just for my 2 cents, I think many would argue that the cynicism and sarcasm in entertainment and media began rising after Watergate. Watergate did have a pronounced impact on the public mindset of this country, changing it forever... much like the Kennedy Assassination, 9-11, etc.

Of course, looking back at old polls about School age kids, rude, lippy behavior has been a constant complaint since at least the 50's, which is when the polling first started. I still think every adult generation feels the upcoming generation is worse behaved than they were. There is a part of me that feels that way with the people 10 years younger than me that are graduating college... we won't go into that, but regardless, I can understand your position... I just don't think the media has that much of an effect on sarcastic behavior and I haven't seen any studies to really back up that hypothesis.

And I know you aren't attacking me personally, no worries. I just always hate when people blame media for it. IMHO, bad parenting is at the root of it.. Even if your hypothesis was correct about shows such as that having a causal link, why aren't the parents involved more to explain the content of the show or prevent the child from watching them.

I've enjoyed the conversation.

[DVCDawn]

Sorry, I fell asleep during the rants.

Are we back to talking about Aerosmith's Rock 'N Roller Coaster yet?

Let me know.

DVCDawn :tink:

[yitbos96bb]

Sorry, I fell asleep during the rants.

Are we back to talking about Aerosmith's Rock 'N Roller Coaster yet?

Let me know.

DVCDawn :tink:

:laughing: No Rants just slightly off topic discussions... ;-)

I'm guessing if Aerosmith isn't re signed then it will be a made up band with music disney owns the royalties too in the limo.

[MomofKatie]

Sorry, I fell asleep during the rants.

Are we back to talking about Aerosmith's Rock 'N Roller Coaster yet?

Let me know.

DVCDawn :tink:

Dawn, we still NEED to see those shirtless Jon Bon Jovi pics!!! :rotfl::rotfl:

[mwmuntz]

I'm not sure replacing one band with a history of disfunction with the kings of band disfunction is a good idea. Plus do you go with the Good Early Roth Years, the mediocre Hagar years or the fading incarnation with the return of Roth but the ho-hum Wolfgang Van Halen (Replacing Anthony) and an Eddie who just doesn't have the chops he used to (He's still REALLY good, just not what he was 20 years ago, IMHO, which is to be expected given his age.)

I agree 100% with everything you said in this post. I was thinking the original Van Halen line up, but maybe VH is not a good replacement after all!

[mwmuntz]

I'm sure their decision will be based on 1) Tyler completing Rehab and 2) The band keeping Tyler. If Steven leaves, say good bye to Aerosmith... Very few bands can pull off losing the face of the band and survive.... I mean the Stones without Mick (or Keith), Van Halen without Roth was always Meh. Really the only two, IMHO to pull it off were Pink Floyd going from Waters to Gilmore (Pulse was AMAZING) and AC/DC (which to me always felt like two different bands, but both very good... plus Bon Scott died and didn't leave).

Iron Maiden did pretty good when they replaced Paul Di'Anno.

[Tink's Tormentor]

I'm telling you...USE THE MUPPETS!

They are pushing them back into the public eye already with the YouTube channel "Muppet Studios", why not place Mr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem as the band!

The themeing would be perfect for the indoor rollercoaster and no more contracts since they OWN the rights to the Muppets.

USE the assets you bought from Henson's company Disney! Use them!

The Muppets.... I like how you think!!!

[ChrisFL]

The only problem with the muppets idea is location, if they weren't completely across the park from each other it could work.

[DisLUV]

I LOVE the Muppets Idea!!!!

[Saxsoon]

Please tell me this "executive CM" was someone at Corporate, not in the parks, otherwise, it's no better then a bus driver rumor.

My manager at a Resort knew about the Star Tours 2.0 long before it was announced. She had connections in Imagineering.

[doconeill]

My manager at a Resort knew about the Star Tours 2.0 long before it was announced. She had connections in Imagineering.

Star Tours 2.0 was actually announced a long time ago. But they didn't DO anything for several years, and it looked like it was just another broken promise...

[ChrisFL]

My manager at a Resort knew about the Star Tours 2.0 long before it was announced. She had connections in Imagineering.

An updated Star Tours attraction had actually been talked about since the mid 1990's and has had a loooong, sloooow progression ever since

[Hockey Ninja]

ZOMG! I would love if they changed the featured band to Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem! I tell you what, the only Aerosmith song I actively like (as opposed to "meh, this is okay") is "Walk this Way." Why?

Because parts of it sound to my ears like parts of "Can You Picture That" from the Muppet Movie! :rotfl:

[Natterjack9]

Bon Jovi

Listen, Jon Bon Jovi has to be a Disney fan to some degree -- the last time I stayed at Disney's Vero Beach resort he and his family were guests as well.



DVCDawn :tink:



If they are going to re-theme, I think Bon Jovi would be a great choice for the band they use. :woohoo: Bon Jovi is very family friendly, how many songs do they have that you have to bleep out the words? :confused: NONE. They were the first concert I took my kids too, we have seen them a few times since. I have seen a few suggestions about Kiss, they would work too. :thumbsup2 The glam rock would fit right in, and Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons would eat this up. The only band I have seen mentioned that I would disagree with is U2. They are either a love 'em or hate 'em band. I have never been a big fan.:crazy2:

Muppets, I don't know. Riding the coaster with the music of Aerosmith, Bon Jovi or another rock band pounding in my ears is part of the appeal. I don't know if Dr. Teeth and Electric Mayhem will do the job.:confused3

[circhead]

How about Queen? Bohemian Rhapsody anyone, or I want to ride my bicycle?

[doconeill]

How about Queen? Bohemian Rhapsody anyone, or I want to ride my bicycle?

Not sure either of those would fit, but certainly Hammer To Fall would work...

[caseybruna]

Queen would be awesome, but I think the Chilli Peppers would be the best. U2 is signed to Universal as someone already mentioned earlier, so I don't think we would have much luck there sadly...

[Virtucomp]

We just got back from an eight day trip to WDW. While chatting it up with a CM she offered up that she is sad that they are re-theming Rock and Roller coaster to the Disney owned Jonas Brothers and Hanna Montana!:scared1:

She said they already started to make changes and they expect to be complete by the same time next year (May 2011).

I did a little checking on the theming and found some unwelcome changes. The first posters you see when you come in the Standby line are Hanna Montana and Thats so Raven!
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/Virtucomp/DSCN1574.jpg

Then I noticed this booth setup outside of RnR Coaster. Radio Disney, Hanna Montana and all the pre-teen stuff.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/Virtucomp/DSCN1569.jpg


The entire time we were in the area there was only one kid sitting at the booth looking at the activities.

A good example of how re-theming would be bad.... We were in standby line and there was a group of adults and kids speaking only Italian. The guys in the group sang the words to every song that played over the speakers while waiting. Do you think adults will fly in from Italy to sing the Jonas Brothers? :eek:

[doconeill]

Those posters have been there at least a year, probably 2. They were advertising some of Disney's musical acts - yes, even Raven released some CDs.

[Oglet]

Yes and since the attraction is themed where you enter a recording company and then into the studio it is perfectly normal to see pictures of other recording groups etc.

Its a way for Disney to theme the scene of a recording studio without getting involved with negotiations/royalties of people not signed with them.

RNR with Aerosmith probably isn't going to change anytime soon. I believe this Rumor was started due to the 10 year anniversary of the ride in 2009. CM's like to torment guests from time to time and what better way to torment a guest who is wearing a heavy metal or rock T-Shirt than to say their ride is being changed to something like Miley, Jonus Bros etc etc.

A 10 year contract would have been re-negotiated quite some time before the expiration of the original one, Disney wouldn't risk closing a signature attraction during a peak period of the year with very little notice for something like a contract deal.

Will it ever change?, Quite possibly it will one day it will however at this time I believe RNR with Aerosmith is staying where it is.

[sssteele]

The attraction was officially closed for refurbishment last week. I did not ask anyone what to expect.

[dronein7g]

just got back yesterday and the ride is no different yet..... they had a huge tan screen with people inside it painting the guitar........ hopefully just a touch up but areosmith was still there

[verlee]

:idea:You know what I think would be cool? Not sure of the logistics but it would be cool if there were several different bands that you could choose from. Make it a little interactive somehow? The group would choose which band. Or even just a random assigned band? Ya never know which band you are gonna get. But I agree it would have to be rock.

[WestCOT]

Bon Jovi sounds like a brilliant and logical choice.

[iheartjacksparrow]

Bon Jovi

Listen, Jon Bon Jovi has to be a Disney fan to some degree -- the last time I stayed at Disney's Vero Beach resort he and his family were guests as well.

And, yes, let me answer your questions before you ask, I do have a photo of him in the pool. Shirtless, natch.

DVCDawn :tink:

Another for JOVI!!! Maybe that's just cause we're from Jersey :rotfl:

I really do believe he would be great though. Family friendly, lively songs...
It's my Life, Runaway, Livin on a Prayer, You Give Love a Bad Name..
Wow, I would love Bon Jovi for it!!

I mean, I hope there's no changes....but...if it had to, I would definetly love to see Jovi!

[BecBennett]

Just throwing my hat into the ring to add another vote for Electric Mayhem. Would be perfect!

Personally I don't see bands like U2 or Bon Jovi working. They're just not at the forefront of my mind when someone says rock n roll, unlike Aerosmith, Kiss, AC/DC, RHCP etc. It would need something punchy and really kick a**.

IMHO anyway...

[Joe in VA]

Definitely hope they keep Aerosmith. RHCP would be an okay choice. Kiss is too gimmicky, but they would work better than Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi is the most bland choice listed anywhere on this thread. You can have edgy rock like RHCP or Aerosmith that will work for a roller coaster, that is also mainstream.

I thought U2 would be okay, but running their songs through my mind I'm having a tough time thinking of "coaster" songs. Vertigo or Elevation maybe but none of their classics would work on a coaster. Still would be better than Bon Jovi.

[Figment632]

I would just like to say that this was never happening or never considered. The closes thing to this was when they considered bringing this attraction to DL but it would have featured No Doubt.

[GeorgiaDawg7]

I would Love to see Motley Crue or Guns N' Roses both from LA, it would never happen but i'd love to see it

[a361c]

the original theme was the "Elvis Rock 'n Roller Coaster" The Aerosmith theme came just before the opening. Notice the old style limo cars and the entrance had a 50's vibe. so changing the theme would be as simple as changing the song and the intro video

[doconeill]

the original theme was the "Elvis Rock 'n Roller Coaster" The Aerosmith theme came just before the opening. Notice the old style limo cars and the entrance had a 50's vibe. so changing the theme would be as simple as changing the song and the intro video

Yup, so that's why they advertised it featuring Aerosmith for at least several months prior?

[CliffordM]

I kinda like Aerosmith. Hope they can stay on.

[marivaid]

As much as I love Bon Jovi, and boy do I love em, I don't see it. The songs wouldn't really fit with a superfast roller coaster ride IMO. Guns'n'Roses would work great but somehow I don't see an Axl Rose/Disney deal :rotfl2:

[CandyMandy]

Um...ok...so what city do you think of when you think of music production?

Those old enough to remember the "glory days" of the recording industry (ergo, before download era) may make some connection of part of it to LA, but I'd bet that Nashville or even possibly New York would win any survey of a random sample of people asking the question "what city is best known for being the capital of the recording industry?"

[SaratogaSprings]

aerosmith sucks, i want the jonas brothers to helm the rock'n roller coaster

[lthiesfeld07]

My friend just came back from Disney on Monday, and she said that Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers have taken over the ride. She said the opening sequence when Aerosmith is in the studio is gone....
She heard from her brother (a CM) that rumors are surfacing that they are changing the ride because of Steven Tyler's drug problem and its effect on guests....
I really hope they rethink this decision... though it sounds like there is no turning back!!

[Figment632]

My friend just came back from Disney on Monday, and she said that Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers have taken over the ride. She said the opening sequence when Aerosmith is in the studio is gone....
She heard from her brother (a CM) that rumors are surfacing that they are changing the ride because of Steven Tyler's drug problem and its effect on guests....
I really hope they rethink this decision... though it sounds like there is no turning back!!

Sorry you were given false info the ride is unchanged.

[Magnetic]

she said that Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers have taken over the ride. She said the opening sequence when Aerosmith is in the studio is gone....
__________________

Absolutely untrue - rode it several times this week.

[CandyMandy]

My friend just came back from Disney on Monday, and she said that Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers have taken over the ride. She said the opening sequence when Aerosmith is in the studio is gone....

I rode RNR twice yesterday. It still as others have stated the same as it has always been, with the same Aerosmith pre-show.

So your so-called "friend" isn't fooling anyone but you.

[Figment632]

I just would like to say again that this is an old romor that started a few years ago. Disney never considered Hannah ever.

[yitbos96bb]

I just would like to say again that this is an old romor that started a few years ago. Disney never considered Hannah ever.

Agreed. Can a moderator close this thread so it dies its death? Aerosmith is TOURING THIS YEAR! They aren't even breaking up which would have made a change far more likely. As cheap as Disney has been lately on many things do you REALLY think they would spend the money on shooting a new film and changing the marquee.

[Figment632]

Agreed. Can a moderator close this thread so it dies its death? Aerosmith is TOURING THIS YEAR! They aren't even breaking up which would have made a change far more likely. As cheap as Disney has been lately on many things do you REALLY think they would spend the money on shooting a new film and changing the marquee.

Yea it is ridiculos. The closest thing that ever happened was when they were going to bring RnRC to DL it was going to feature No Doubt.

[Peter Pirate 2]

I just would like to say again that this is an old romor that started a few years ago. Disney never considered Hannah ever.

Where does this information come from?

Based on anything and everything Disney has done over the past 10 years I believe Hannah and Jonas have been discussed somewhere, sometime at Disney. This is a no brainer.

Of course it will never be done, it wouldn't be good business, but I will never believe that it hasn't been proposed and discussed.

[Figment632]

Where does this information come from?

Based on anything and everything Disney has done over the past 10 years I believe Hannah and Jonas have been discussed somewhere, sometime at Disney. This is a no brainer.

Of course it will never be done, it wouldn't be good business, but I will never believe that it hasn't been proposed and discussed.

I am telling you DIsney never considered changing the ride. This is an Internet rumor that has no truth to it.

The two you mentioned are not even what started the rumor. Again when RnRC was going to be brought to DL it would have featured No Doubt. After that hit the web the rumor mills started saying the No Doubt was replacing Aerosmith in WDW. Then the rumor evoved over the last three years to include Hannah and the Chastity boys.

[doconnor901]

I would agree with an established group that has been around and can keep the rock and roll them like Bon Jovi. The Jonas brothers could easily go the way of Hanson (remember them) 3 years from now and then what will you do?

[Figment632]

I would agree with an established group that has been around and can keep the rock and roll them like Bon Jovi. The Jonas brothers could easily go the way of Hanson (remember them) 3 years from now and then what will you do?

Three years from now it will still bge Aerosmith, just like it will be in 10 years.

[ConcKahuna]

Three years from now it will still bge Aerosmith, just like it will be in 10 years.

Yes, well the past 10 years didnt see Stephen Tyler getting booted from Aerosmith because of his drug binges.

I love Aerosmith, but from a values and branding standpoint they have possibly become a liability to Disney. Not that I think Hannah Montana or the Jonas Bros should go into the attraction, but there are plenty of viable classic rock alternatives who are still popular today.

Heck, last weekend on my way through I saw they had a poster for Queen up, although that could have just been because of Gaydays.

[Figment632]

Yes, well the past 10 years didnt see Stephen Tyler getting booted from Aerosmith because of his drug binges.

I love Aerosmith, but from a values and branding standpoint they have possibly become a liability to Disney. Not that I think Hannah Montana or the Jonas Bros should go into the attraction, but there are plenty of viable classic rock alternatives who are still popular today.

Heck, last weekend on my way through I saw they had a poster for Queen up, although that could have just been because of Gaydays.

Thats funny I didn't know he got booted from the band seeing that they are currently on tour.

Again this was never considered.

[doconnor901]

At some point Aerosmith won't mean much to anybody under 50, and just the way E.T and Back to the Future rides at US were replaced for newer movie rides, it just makes sense that the theming of this ride will change. It would be nice to have it change to another popular musical act. I'd like to see a few rides and attractions that aren't attached to a Disney character, isn't there enough of that already?

[doconeill]

At some point Aerosmith won't mean much to anybody under 50, and just the way E.T and Back to the Future rides at US were replaced for newer movie rides, it just makes sense that the theming of this ride will change. It would be nice to have it change to another popular musical act.

Eventually yes, this is likely to happen. However, trying to find a musical act with the right musical theme for a thrill ride AND the broad, multi-generational appeal is a challenge. There are many threads devoted to that discussion already though.

I'd like to see a few rides and attractions that aren't attached to a Disney character, isn't there enough of that already?

True, but then again Disney OWNS those characters (for the most part). When it is someone else, then there are contractual issues (as was the genesis of the RNRC change rumors)...

[Horace Horsecollar]

Thats funny I didn't know he got booted from the band seeing that they are currently on tour.
Huh?

ConcKahuna wrote that Stephen Tyler didn't get booted from Aerosmith.

[doconeill]

Huh?

ConcKahuna wrote that Stephen Tyler didn't get booted from Aerosmith.

I read the post as meaning that in the previous ten years he hadn't had problems, but now he does, and implied he was kicked out of the band because of it. He hasn't though...

Of course, they were all notorious in their earlier years for their "transgressions"...

[ConcKahuna]

I read the post as meaning that in the previous ten years he hadn't had problems, but now he does, and implied he was kicked out of the band because of it. He hasn't though...

Of course, they were all notorious in their earlier years for their "transgressions"...

The other band members staged an intervention and Tyler had to do 90 days in rehab. They even auditioned new lead singers in case he hadn't cleaned up his act before this summer's tour started.

[dalt01]

I would agree with an established group that has been around and can keep the rock and roll them like Bon Jovi. The Jonas brothers could easily go the way of Hanson (remember them) 3 years from now and then what will you do? any comparison between Hanson and the Jonas Bros is silly. they make as much money in a month as Hanson did in their whole run.

[cm8]

I hope it stays the same:guilty:

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

RnRC was closed for about a week in May, and nothing changed. We were at WDW from June 4- 19. When we got there the guitar was covered with a tarp. By the end of the trip the tarp was gone, the guitar is all shiny and spiffy and freshly painted, and everything still says AEROSMITH. I am pretty sure the rumor has no merit.

Carry on.

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

I searched this thread out after watching "Walt Disney World" on the travel channel a few minutes ago. I didn't know of the rumor, but I quickly picked up on how the WORD "Aerosmith" was NOT used, and how it seemed it was PURPOSEFULLY not used. I also noticed (as a person studying photography) that they angled the shots so as to NOT show Aerosmith on the signage. The people commenting on how great the ride is also referred to it as "Rockin Roller Coaster" which I found as odd; we always just called it "Aerosmith".
IE "We're gonna go ride the Aerosmith"

Now, I'd like to mention here that you people are clearly showing your age.:happytv::lmao::rotfl2:

Red Hot Chili Peppers???:sick:
Van Halen?:scared1:
Bon Jovi??????:sad2:

Come on, surely you can come up with something better.:rolleyes1
I'm not a Beetles fan, but I can kinda see that one. Metallica? Maybe. But lets bury the Southern rock idea.

How about something that crosses 2 genres at once to appeal to a larger audience??? Maybe something like Linkin Park? It certainly has the beat and momentum, and it appeals to more people. Or maybe Demi Lavado or Avril Lavinge? Both have a few upbeat songs and both are known for their roles on film.

The Muppet idea is cool! Or maybe just a "Disney Created" ride with a soundtrack made just for the ride! Who said it has to "feature" ANYONE???

Disney has made some AWESOME music. They aren't exactly known for hard hitting fast paced music, but i'm sure they could come up with something.

[doconeill]

I searched this thread out after watching "Walt Disney World" on the travel channel a few minutes ago. I didn't know of the rumor, but I quickly picked up on how the WORD "Aerosmith" was NOT used, and how it seemed it was PURPOSEFULLY not used. I also noticed (as a person studying photography) that they angled the shots so as to NOT show Aerosmith on the signage. The people commenting on how great the ride is also referred to it as "Rockin Roller Coaster" which I found as odd; we always just called it "Aerosmith".
IE "We're gonna go ride the Aerosmith"

You are probably unique there. Most people around here refer to it as "Rock'n'Roller Coaster", or simply RNRC.

That show was originally made in 2002, with some minor updates to include newer things. Reading something in to them not using the Aerosmith name is probably a bit much.

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

That show was originally made in 2002, with some minor updates to include newer things. Reading something in to them not using the Aerosmith name is probably a bit much.

We collect Disney planning DVDs, and we always watch the Travel Channel shows about Disney. We have seen many many times the references to the Aerosmith Rockin Roller Coaster. I have never seen it put quite like that before. I don't think it was a bit much at all. And in my 19 trips in counting, I've heard quite a few people call it Aerosmith Coaster or such. I've heard it called all kinds of crazy names actually. :surfweb:

[chartle]

I searched this thread out after watching "Walt Disney World" on the travel channel a few minutes ago. I didn't know of the rumor, but I quickly picked up on how the WORD "Aerosmith" was NOT used, and how it seemed it was PURPOSEFULLY not used. I also noticed (as a person studying photography) that they angled the shots so as to NOT show Aerosmith on the signage. The people commenting on how great the ride is also referred to it as "Rockin Roller Coaster" which I found as odd; we always just called it "Aerosmith".
IE "We're gonna go ride the Aerosmith"

Officially its Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith, as for the travel channel show not showing the Aerosmith name it may have been deliberate.

Rights issues can be strange, like they can't use the name in TV shows. :confused3

Remember Robin Williams left the Aladdin movies because Disney used his voice to promote toys in Burger King kids meals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_williams#Disputes_with_Disney


Maybe the producer of the show just doesn't like Aerosmith? :confused3 :goodvibes

[OldsDr]

I searched this thread out after watching "Walt Disney World" on the travel channel a few minutes ago. I didn't know of the rumor, but I quickly picked up on how the WORD "Aerosmith" was NOT used, and how it seemed it was PURPOSEFULLY not used. I also noticed (as a person studying photography) that they angled the shots so as to NOT show Aerosmith on the signage. The people commenting on how great the ride is also referred to it as "Rockin Roller Coaster" which I found as odd; we always just called it "Aerosmith".
IE "We're gonna go ride the Aerosmith"



See If I had been interviewed I would have been Calling Rock n Roller coaster as well. So I would not read that much into it.

If thet were to ever re-theme it I would like to see something like the muppets band. How about Poison "Nothin But a Good Time" would work well on that ride.

[disneyworldaddict]

What does it have to do with Hollywood? AI is at least a TV show.

Sunset Strip in Hollywood famous for its rock clubs. The premise of RRC in the pre-show is a highspeed ride through the streets of LA. Hollywood is far more than just movies and TV.

RRC is cool and edgy! I love Disney and how it brings out the child in me, and RRC brings out the young adult in me. I keep coming back to Disney even though my daughter is 20 because it appeals to all ages. My daughter and a group of her 20 something friends are going to Disney rather than a party in Mexico for just that reason, and I couldn't be happier. WDW has something for all age but does so in a clean and safe environment. This is why it continues to be the number 1 resort destination.

[ChrisFL]

Officially its Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith, as for the travel channel show not showing the Aerosmith name it may have been deliberate.

Rights issues can be strange, like they can't use the name in TV shows. :confused3

Remember Robin Williams left the Aladdin movies because Disney used his voice to promote toys in Burger King kids meals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_williams#Disputes_with_Disney


Maybe the producer of the show just doesn't like Aerosmith? :confused3 :goodvibes

Yeah, you can't even say "Super Bowl" anymore officially due to specific rights requirements :rolleyes:

[Vwdiva93]

I seriously hope that rumor is not true. Aerosmith is my favorite band of all time and ironically RNR is my favorite ride at Disney!! I don't think I'd be able to go to DHS ever again if they removed Aerosmith from the ride... :sad2:

[momof2buzzboys]

I seriously hope that rumor is not true. Aerosmith is my favorite band of all time and ironically RNR is my favorite ride at Disney!! I don't think I'd be able to go to DHS ever again if they removed Aerosmith from the ride... :sad2:

I agree whole heartedly! I Love Aerosmith and the RNRC is absolutely my favorite ride EVER! It just would not be the same any other way.

[BPATSMouse]

Areosmith is not going anywhere. They will be the "Hosts" of RNRC for the forseeable future. A replacement band to consider though: KISS, their music would fit well and Gene Simmons would sell his mother if it would make him money.

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

A replacement band to consider though: KISS

:sick::sick::sick::sick: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
KISS is just NASTY. If you think the aerosmith hand salute thing was bad.... Gene Simmons is NOT one to associate with Disney. BAD IDEA

[kelseighrox925]

I'm glad that this rumor is not true, but I doubt that Disney would use an actual band if they wanna save money when they need a new band. Should Aerosmith be dropped from the ride anytime soon, if the Disney execs are smart they'll make use of their fictional rock group Iron Weasel from "I'm In the Band". To me, that makes sense.

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

We REALLY don't know if its true or not. Until I hear it from Eisner himself I wont be completely convinced either way. Lots of people come on these boards and speak as if they know something you don't. And most of them dont know much more than the rest of us.
There is another thread here that is prime example of this. One person saying one thing, and everyone else saying they do or do not believe them.

And I don't always believe CMs either. I have heard quite a few things from CMs and bus drivers that was later found to be wrong.

Here's a good example to prove my point. On your next trip, take a notepad and ask each bus driver what KIND of fishes are on top of Swan and Dolphin, why they are there, and if there was a mistake in the design. Take notes and count the responses!:thumbsup2:happytv:

[doconeill]

We REALLY don't know if its true or not. Until I hear it from Eisner himself I wont be completely convinced either way.

I wouldn't believe anything Eisner says at all, considering he hasn't worked for the company in several years ;)

[chartle]

A replacement band to consider though: KISS, their music would fit well and Gene Simmons would sell his mother if it would make him money.

Not going to happen for at least two reasons I can think of.


Kiss is not as mainstream as Aerosmith and their "antics" while performing turns way too many people off.


I would have never though of this reason until my sons' dressed as Kiss for a Halloween parade while marching with the high school band. One of their section leaders had to stay away from my son due to her fear of clowns. I would have never thought of this but there is a portion of the population that has a major issue with clowns even as adults. Someone here even wrote that they heard that Goofy's Barnstormer was going to be re-themed with a clown motif(not circus) and she would never go near it if it did.

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

I wouldn't believe anything Eisner says at all, considering he hasn't worked for the company in several years
You see what I mean? I'm on here giving Disney advise and I don't even know who runs the dang place!:rotfl2::happytv::rotfl2:

You can't get a better example than that! :rotfl::surfweb: (I'm gonna blame it on the 4 hours of sleep a night I've been getting lately so I don't look quite as stupid.):rotfl2:

[yitbos96bb]

Can we just let this thread die? It's not going to happen, knowing Disney NONE of anything anyone has said remotely has a shot of happening and since Aerosmith didn't break up and Steven Tyler is on the verge of becoming one of the new American Idol judges, I doubt there will be a change.

[Figment632]

Can we just let this thread die? It's not going to happen, knowing Disney NONE of anything anyone has said remotely has a shot of happening and since Aerosmith didn't break up and Steven Tyler is on the verge of becoming one of the new American Idol judges, I doubt there will be a change.

Agreed this was necer ever considered.

[njDISNEYnut]

Just got back from WDW and a CM mentioned Hannah Montanna as the new theme for RR

[Tekneek]

Just got back from WDW and a CM mentioned Hannah Montanna as the new theme for RR

:rotfl:

That is awesome. Honestly, I would love to see some concept work for this, as well as some samples of any music that would make sense on such a ride. Anyone here ready to mock this up?

[TDC Nala]

I only hope they do not use a kiddie or teenybopper band, please don't let everything at WDW become about kids.

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

Can we just let this thread die? It's not going to happen, knowing Disney NONE of anything anyone has said remotely has a shot of happening and since Aerosmith didn't break up and Steven Tyler is on the verge of becoming one of the new American Idol judges, I doubt there will be a change.

Agreed this was necer ever considered.

vs

Just got back from WDW and a CM mentioned Hannah Montanna as the new theme for RR

SOMEONE is considering it. :surfweb:popcorn::

[jen42002]

Just got back from WDW and a CM mentioned Hannah Montanna as the new theme for RR

Someone on another thread mentioned that Universal asked them to take a survey about new themes for rides. Several were Disney themes with specific comments about Hannah Montana. Wondering if the Hanna Montana rumor may be true and that Universal is trying to figure out how to drum up some negative press?

[Virtucomp]

Steven Tyler is going to be a new judge on American Idol which is now part of Hollywood Studios. Since there is now more of a tie between Aerosmith and Disney I don't see why they would drop Aerosmith from the RnRC.

[Tekneek]

Disney only has the theme park rights for American Idol, as I recall. They do not otherwise have any significant involvement with that show or its production.

[stitch1986]

Just got back from WDW and a CM mentioned Hannah Montanna as the new theme for RR

I am not all up to date but isnt hannah montana the show done with and she is no longer contracted with disney as of her last season of her show is coming out this yr?? or was that old news and she resigned a contract? like i said I thought that is what I thought.
And I like the songs they have pn RNR it goes with the coaster itself but that is juts my opinion

[CandyMandy]

To reluctantly quote Britney (I really don't care for her), "ooops, he just did it again."

Aerosmith's Steven Tyler falls off stage again

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67H5XE20100818?feedType=RSS&feedName=entertainmentNews&rpc=22&sp=true

[Figment632]

Just got back from WDW and a CM mentioned Hannah Montanna as the new theme for RR

That CM is either a moron or lied to you this is not happening.

[disneychic]

I am not all up to date but isnt hannah montana the show done with and she is no longer contracted with disney as of her last season of her show is coming out this yr?? or was that old news and she resigned a contract? like i said I thought that is what I thought.
And I like the songs they have pn RNR it goes with the coaster itself but that is juts my opinion

My thoughts exactly -- why would they put Hannah Montana on the RnR??? The show is in its last season!

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

My thoughts exactly -- why would they put Hannah Montana on the RnR??? The show is in its last season!
Steven Tyler isn't exactly a spring chicken in the start of his career.

[BamaEd1]

Even if the Aerosmith tie in goes away, they could re-make the pre-show video and put random rock-n-roll on each of the limo's. The ride doesn't have to be themed to a specific band. Everyone refers to it as the Rockin Roller Coaster and leaves off the "Featuring Aerosmith" part. They could probably do the pick your own music like the big coaster at Universal does fairly easily as well. That way if you want the Jonas Brothers (I know it's hard to believe but some people do :confused3 ), you can have them or if you want Journey or the Chilli Peppers, you could have them. That's the way I think they'll go if Aerosmith leaves.

[Figment632]

CLOSE THIS THREAD THIS WAS NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER CONSIDERED.:headache:

[anthony2k7]

CLOSE THIS THREAD THIS WAS NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER CONSIDERED.:headache:

wow...

[Figment632]

wow...

12 pages on the most ridiculos rumor that never ever had any truth to it.

[NJDisney]

Thats great. 12 pages of 1 rumor. Too funny

[kangaroodle]

:idea:You know what I think would be cool? Not sure of the logistics but it would be cool if there were several different bands that you could choose from. Make it a little interactive somehow? The group would choose which band. Or even just a random assigned band? Ya never know which band you are gonna get. But I agree it would have to be rock.


This is what Rip, Ride, Rockit has at US. It IS very cool!

I personally have always wanted a roller coaster that was themed aaround Monsters, Inc when they are in the door factory! :thumbsup2

[Blocata]

Skillet! Red! Flyleaf! Seether!

Aerosmith need to be carted to the home already ...

[FaithTrustPixieDust*]

They wouldn't :( Aerosmith are just as good as they've always been by the way, for those of you wondering! I saw them live at the O2 arena in London in June and they were absolutely fantastic!!

[Aljo]

my vote is for Bon Jovi (yes, I know i'm replying to a "rumor" LOL)

The band is still relevant after all these years and appeals to all ages.

[Cobra B.]

Again, Chili Peppers, Hollywood, Love Roller Coaster, nuff said.

Now that Tyler will be on American Idol do they keep it Aerosmith? Too much Tyler! Way too much.

[Jedi]

guess it was time for this threads monthly trip to the top, lol

[Oglet]

CLOSE THIS THREAD THIS WAS NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER CONSIDERED.:headache:

:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2


Just when you think its gone......................

[BamaEd1]

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::r otfl2::thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thu mbsup2


Just when you think its gone......................

[Disneyman_10]

i agree with the fact that even if RnR goes away with aerosmith, they better not put hannah montana or any pop music for that matter in the ride . . . . . . . . or its gonna need a name change.

[UKMark]

guess it was time for this threads monthly trip to the top, lol

:rotfl:

popcorn::

[MaryJaneP]

"Rock" n Rollercoaster with Justin Bieber. DLToronto

[KimmyZ05]

I hope its not true that they dont get rid of Aerosmith. I would be totally sad about this. Its by far one of the best rides there.


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[KermitFrog2]

I've heard this before. Rumors... They just say this to scare you I guess. If it ever does change who it features, I will never return to that ride

[PortMickey]

Think about it. Has Disney done a new attraction in the last 10 years without pushing a Disney character or franchise? There is no way they will use an outside band they have to pay for. They want to sell Disney merchandise, not Aerosmith CDs. It will be Hanna Montana, Jonas Brothers, Selena Gomez or someone on their label. Count on it!

[doconeill]

Think about it. Has Disney done a new attraction in the last 10 years without pushing a Disney character or franchise? There is no way they will use an outside band they have to pay for. They want to sell Disney merchandise, not Aerosmith CDs. It will be Hanna Montana, Jonas Brothers, Selena Gomez or someone on their label. Count on it!

This argument doesn't wash at all...as Disney has not created any (at least permanent) attraction based on ANY of it's "home grown" Disney Channel/Radio/record label talents. Probably because they know they are more ephemeral than anything else.

[Horace Horsecollar]

Think about it. Has Disney done a new attraction in the last 10 years without pushing a Disney character or franchise?
How about the American Idol Experience at Walt Disney World? It's based on a show that's neither produced nor broadcast by Disney/ABC.

American Idol was created by and is executive-produced by Simon Fuller, founder of 19 Entertainment. The show is broadcast on Fox Network.

There is no way they will use an outside band they have to pay for. They want to sell Disney merchandise, not Aerosmith CDs. It will be Hanna Montana, Jonas Brothers, Selena Gomez or someone on their label. Count on it!
It's been the Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith since it opened July 29, 1999, which is more than 11 years ago. There is absolutely no evidence that Aerosmith is being booted from the attraction.

I think the rumor started with speculation that Disney's original contract with Aerosmith might only be for 10 years, because many corporate sponsorships are only for 10 years. (Of course, we're not dealing with a corporate sponsorship here.) So for the past year or two, fans have speculated on who might replace Aerosmith.

Meanwhile, this rumor thread keeps jumping to the top on this forum (and I've just made it do so again).

[chartle]

How about the American Idol Experience at Walt Disney World? It's based on a show that's neither produced nor broadcast by Disney/ABC.

American Idol was created by and is executive-produced by Simon Fuller, founder of 19 Entertainment. The show is broadcast on Fox Network.



Problem is that I have heard that since Simon is gone, this will be the last year for AI. Also AI is Pop not Rock.

[chartle]

Think about it. Has Disney done a new attraction in the last 10 years without pushing a Disney character or franchise? There is no way they will use an outside band they have to pay for. They want to sell Disney merchandise, not Aerosmith CDs.

It will be

Hanna Montana - Since the show is no more its now a dead franchise. Also Miley is going to run as fast as possible away from the character so she can "Grow up" .

Jonas Brothers - Like all other Disney manufactured Pop Stars maybe two more years of fame. Paint will barely be dry.

Selena Gomez - Who????:confused3

Count on it!

Don't think so.:thumbsup2

[Horace Horsecollar]

Problem is that I have heard that since Simon is gone, this will be the last year for AI. Also AI is Pop not Rock.
I'm not sure what point you're making about my post.

I replied to PortMickey's, who suggested that the answer is no to the question of whether "Disney [has] done a new attraction in the last 10 years without pushing a Disney character or franchise." In fact, the answer is yes.

Sure, there's speculation about how much longer American Idol will be on the air. The American Idol Experience attraction at Walt Disney World will remain open as long as guests fill the seats and enjoy it. The attraction could outlast the show. The show could outlast the attraction.

But I don't see how any of this invalidates my reply to PortMickey (or why it matters for Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith that American Idol is "Pop not Rock").

[chartle]

I'm not sure what point you're making about my post.

I replied to PortMickey's, who suggested that the answer is no to the question of whether "Disney [has] done a new attraction in the last 10 years without pushing a Disney character or franchise." In fact, the answer is yes.

Sure, there's speculation about how much longer American Idol will be on the air. The American Idol Experience attraction at Walt Disney World will remain open as long as guests fill the seats and enjoy it. The attraction could outlast the show. The show could outlast the attraction.

But I don't see how any of this invalidates my reply to PortMickey (or why it matters for Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith that American Idol is "Pop not Rock").

I think once the TV show is gone, the interest in it will also be gone. Also if the show is gone the DHS AI show will be soon gone.

I have never seen the DHS show but will they get the same number of people auditioning if there is nothing to audition for?

Also my pop reference is to the fact that AI has never had a Rock Star winner. Chris (already forgot his name) was the closest they have ever had. By my non expert tally they have had one Gospel, one country and the rest pop.

So if they wanted to use a Pop Star from AI they would have to rename it the Pop n Roller Coaster. :rotfl: Sounds like a breakfast food. :lmao:

[Horace Horsecollar]

So if they wanted to use a Pop Star from AI they would have to rename it the Pop n Roller Coaster.
Nobody is suggesting that an American Idol winner will replace Aerosmith in Rock 'n' Roller Coaster.

The only reason I brought up the American Idol Experience was to address PortMickey's comments.

Again, there is no credible evidence of imminent plans to remove Aerosmith from Rock 'n' Roller Coaster.

[chartle]

Nobody is suggesting that an American Idol winner will replace Aerosmith in Rock 'n' Roller Coaster.

The only reason I brought up the American Idol Experience was to address PortMickey's comments.

Ok sorry I went back I mis-read your post.:guilty: I've had a long day that started yesterday afternoon.

Again, there is no credible evidence of imminent plans to remove Aerosmith from Rock 'n' Roller Coaster.

But that won't keep this thread from dying. Maybe I should bring up one of the taboo topics and get this thing closed. :)

[cz&cz22]

I like the idea of using Kiss - I might even like to see the Rolling Stones used - what about featuring a mash of all the decades of Rock N' Roll? you could wait in the que line and then they introduce the ride's featured band - it could be a surprise every time!

[Disco]

I like the idea of using Kiss - I might even like to see the Rolling Stones used - what about featuring a mash of all the decades of Rock N' Roll? you could wait in the que line and then they introduce the ride's featured band - it could be a surprise every time!

I still like the Muppets idea. Dr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem would be awesome. Seeing Animal wailing away on the drums would make my day. Too bad the coaster isn't next to Muppet land....

[tinkerbellandeyor]

Love the muppets and the jona brothers would be a good choice as well

[Mickman_03]

Would not work as well with any other band

[Oglet]

and WDW will get new monorails when it happens.

[lennonforever]

I soooo agree with you Mickman! I would be very disappointed if the band changed.

Our trip is in 4 weeks, and I am so looking forward to the RnR.

[rutgers1]

The only "home run" is aligning with a timeless band/singer. If Aerosmith qualifies, then keep it. If not, consider a band or singer that people will still be conscious of 20 years from now. I am not a fan of KISS, but they come to mind. Their music isn't timeless, but their image and contribution to rock overall is. In fact, they would have been a better choice from the start just from a visual perspective. Aerosmith is one of rock's all time great bands, so finding a more suitable band won't be easy.

At some point, perhaps it will be necessary to rework the queuing area and make it like you are stepping back in time. It won't make sense to see the Aerosmith guys at age 50 when they are 75, unless they redo the video to make it look like you were sent back in time. That would be easy to do.