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bumbershoot
11-16-2009, 04:30 PM
Title as of Jan 15th. Walt, Wizards, and...Woolungasaurus?

Meaning? Liked the Ws, but I had to reach for that last one! Turns out there aren't many dinosaurs with W in the name. We want to play around in the "old" Florida areas, and to me that definitely means DinoWorld! Along with other places. But I felt that I had to include WDW and Universal in the title, since WDW is an absolute and at least Harry Potter's part of Universal will be seen by us. Along with the dinos.



Original title:

It's the little things that'll trip you up

Little things like...what are our dates, should we start in Vero or with family in Port Orange, will my aunt stay with my family of 3 the whole time or go home with her daughter+family, can hubby go without a vacation day for 13 whole months to maximize our FL time....

Pesky little things like that. :upsidedow


More later about the plans for our Very First Trip to WDW! In merely 13 months. We think.
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Editing in the below sentences 11/19.

As you can see from my posts on the 19th of Nov, a theme has developed, an interest has been sparked. So along with WDW and visiting family and Vero, it seems we might be looking for fun kitschy stuff along the way. :goodvibes
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Another title change, 11/22.

Just liked the term "old Florida" better.



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Brady's Mom
11-17-2009, 04:05 PM
Molly, you totally make me laugh. :lmao:

It is ALWAYS the pesky little things that trip me up, too. Good luck with planning your WDW trip. DH and I may go for our 25 wedding anniversary (in about 2 years), so I will definitely follow along to see how planning goes and then, of course, how the trip goes. :thumbsup2

bumbershoot
11-17-2009, 07:29 PM
Shannon! Hi! Good to have a known "face" around here. :)

Right now I'm reading all the trip reports and dining reviews known to mankind. I feel like I'm relating to the Dis in a whole new way...

And what's funny is that the day before, heck, the HOUR before, I started this PTR, I felt like as much an expert on WDW as a Dis-person can feel...and as soon as I started I lost all the info.

What made it worse was the disneyworld site! You can put in your itinerary, letting "it" know when you'll go, where you'll stay (it even lets you put "with friends or family"), etc etc, and that was fine, but then it gives you a place to put what you're going to do on each day, and I swear, it wiped my brain clean!

I'm a total noob now. Weird feeling!

bumbershoot
11-17-2009, 08:20 PM
Well, for those who do not lurk in the Disneyland forum or the Disneyland trip reports, introductions. :)

I'm Molly, married to Robert, and we have a son, Eamon. I was about to do my normal intro, but I have firmly decided, unless something changes, to make this as much about the trip and our plans as I possibly can, without bringing in all my both newfangled and old fashioned ideas of health, health care, etc etc, into it. We'll see just how long I'll hold to that!

I will state that we are vegetarian, hubby has to be careful with his blood sugar (he has an official diagnosis of diabetes, but he boggles his endocrinologist's mind at every appointment, and we all have a hard time calling him diabetic at this point), and hubby+son cannot have anything related to corn syrup. We have discovered a lot of the corn syrup problems at Disneyland, so that's a yay for our trips b/c we discovered it, but a BIG BOO to them for having so much junk in their items sold as food.

Needless to say, food is a tricky thing to plan out! We are expert at Disneyland Resort food now, but this is a, eh hem, whole new world, and we'll be treading carefully.



We're new owners of DVC, but we have no plans to stay at "our" place on this trip. Bay Lake Towers is definitely our style, but the points are way too high for what we plan with this trip!


This trip came about because I have family out in Florida. The cousins that live right in Orlando couldn't care less about WDW. But the cousin+aunt that live in Port Orange do care for it quite a bit (cousin and her husband just had a weekend trip to Port Orleans resort last weekend!).

I haven't visited that lovely town since...well probably getting close to 20 years (omg). It was back before my now-late grandmother was falling into the netherworld of Alzheimers, and my cousin was still a teenager, and my mom was still alive. Wow. But my grandmother's house isn't in the family anymore, because she needed the money from the "reverse mortgage" far more than the family wanted the inheritance, but back then, she owned (flat out owned) a gorgeous but smallish house right across the road from the river, oh it was lovely. But none of her kids could afford to buy it from her, so it's gone along with grandma and my mom. :(

My cousin (just read "and husband and their two kids" most times I say that from now on) lives 5 minutes away from a beach. And they all dislike the beach! Augh! With that attitude I've been trying to get them to move out of hurricane-land for years...but they have reasons and they're sticking to them. Okey dokey!

We've been trying to get this trip going for probably 2 years now. Which is just about as long as my little family realized that we're big ol' Disney fans. :goodvibes I know that my cousin is sorely disappointed in me, because this WAS supposed to happen this December. But then in April, Robert was informed that his department was closing. And so the turmoil began.

Ultimately, we *could have* used the windfall (severance and some double paychecks as he got a contract job then was called back to the old company) to pay for a December '09 trip, but he didn't have the needed vacation time. And because he didn't have the time, we couldn't use it for that. Plus, we'd just been scared out of our skin by realizing how on the edge we were...we'd JUST hit the end of the easy-cancel period with the DVC buy-in, we had NO savings, we were absolutely in trouble. And we finally realized it. So we found Dave Ramsey and put that windfall towards some piddly past medical debt, got a "baby emergency fund", and tossed the rest at our car. We have a plan, a snowball is going, we are doing so much better than we were in April (knock wood).

So while we had to disappoint them yet again, this time I'm going forward with the plans. It WILL happen. And a lot of it will happen because we are giving them lodging via our banked and to-be-borrowed DVC points. The other stuff, again, the little things, like airplane tickets, food and tip money, rental cars, and gracious, CLOTHING for Florida and tickets...those little things will just have to be figured out along the way! Thankfully it's not all due in one lump sum. :)

Of course, I haven't even gotten confirmation about what exact dates will work with the family! In previous conversations, we figured out that my little family will stay, in various places, for a solid 2 weeks. My cousin's family will be available for a long weekend. I'm not sure what my aunt will do; I know that she watches her grandkids quite a bit, and helps out a lot, but I am her first niece and she adores me, and she's only met my son once but wants to spend more time with him...so I'm sure she's going to have quite a dilemma on her hands! But it's her dilemma, and I'm not going to pressure her at all about staying with us; just make sure she knows she's wanted and leave it up to her.

And that's enough talk-talk for THIS post!

Brady's Mom
11-18-2009, 11:18 AM
Shannon! Hi! Good to have a known "face" around here. :)

Right now I'm reading all the trip reports and dining reviews known to mankind. I feel like I'm relating to the Dis in a whole new way...

And what's funny is that the day before, heck, the HOUR before, I started this PTR, I felt like as much an expert on WDW as a Dis-person can feel...and as soon as I started I lost all the info.

What made it worse was the disneyworld site! You can put in your itinerary, letting "it" know when you'll go, where you'll stay (it even lets you put "with friends or family"), etc etc, and that was fine, but then it gives you a place to put what you're going to do on each day, and I swear, it wiped my brain clean!

I'm a total noob now. Weird feeling!

Being a noob is a totally weird feeling after being so knowledgeable about DLR. Guess there's no real fix for it except to go to WDW. :thumbsup2

WDW totally intimidates me! It's the dining, mostly. I can handle the airline, hotel and which parks to visit, it's the dining - I am used to PS at the last minute or my fave counter service places. Having to call on the precise day at 6 am (my time) to get the ADR's that I want - when I want, just totally freaks me out. I mean, what if we decide that we are not in the mood for that kind of food that day? What if we decide we want something else???

And what is the dining plan? I think I have a handle on it, but how do you find out about the free dining? And how does it actually work?

I think the travel AT WDW also freaks me out a little. I love being able to walk from DL to DCA and back to the hotel. Shuttles and trams and boats and monorail seem like a big time eater to me. I have to totally change my way of thinking with WDW - I think that is what's hard.

I hope your Aunt will feel like joining you for at least some of your trip. That would be really fun and also give you and R a chance to ride some things together - that would be new for you! :thumbsup2

bumbershoot
11-18-2009, 03:44 PM
Free dining seems to happy in late August through September...I think. It's announced in the Spring, I have seen that for 2 years. Disney Visa holders tend to get it offered to them first, though as with everything Disney Visa, that might change now that us evil Disney DEBIT card holders get the perks too.

wdwinfo (the dis, of course) has good info on the costs of the various plans and what you get.

There's Quick Service plan which gives you two Quick (counter) Service meals per night of your trip, and one refillable mug per person.

There's the normal plan, which is one quickservice, one Table Service, one Snack per night of your stay.

For quick and normal, I think you get a dessert with each meal.

There's the Deluxe plan which gives you 3 *meals*...could be quickservice, could be table, doesn't matter...a snack or two (two I think), and I believe a mug per person. With the Deluxe plan, appetizers are included along with desserts.

Then it gets crazy with Premium and Platinum but those go FAR beyond just food/drink.



I know my aunt will join us at least when my cousin is there. I hope she spends some time beyond that, though. But I know she hates feeling like an "extra" (so I plan to get her her own room). She's a great person, as long as there's no stress. Once there's stress she loses it entirely. She was one of the biggest factors in the problems that happened when DS was trying to make his way into the world. She arrived in the middle of junk that I was handling (serious personal conflicts between me and my hired help), read the situation ALL wrong, and used her influence as my sweet auntie who was supposed to be acting in stead of my mother to get me into a BAD scenario that ended poorly for everyone. So just as long as there's NO STRESS, she's great.


Back to the dining plan....if you're an AP holder or a DVC member staying on points, you can buy the plan without a package. Otherwise, you have to have a package deal, not just a room-only. That goes for the normal plan and free dining, I believe. It all gets encoded on your keys to the world (as opposed to DLR's keys to the magic!).

You do have to pay tips on what the food *would have cost*. And they put that cost onto receipts so you know what to tip...always thinking of us, they are. ;)

Obviously I lurk on the Dining forum quite a bit!!!!!


We're still working out the cost comparisons. Obviously with our limitations and the fact that we generally share it's going to get right down to the wire. Whereas if we were limitless omnivores and wanted $30 steaks and drank soda and had desserts every night normally, it would be a GREAT deal! But since our snack credits would very likely go to a latte or an apple or bottled water, instead of rice krispie Mickey heads or things at Goofy's Candy Company, etc...and we would normally share, etc etc...it basically comes down to how many character buffets we want to attend!

I'm sure we'll all be reading about that later on...

Brady's Mom
11-18-2009, 11:57 PM
It's nice to know that there is a dining forum that I can haunt for a while. :surfweb:

I have some family things coming up in the next 6 months that will keep me from any sort of trip planning/lurking mode that I might get into. Some of it is stressful (when is family stuff not stressful) but most of it is good - just looming for me. After that I am sure I will spend some time looking around and getting a feel for what is available. I get too caught up in trip planning and tend to forget other deadlines I might have and I am SURE that will be the case when I am planning a WDW trip. :rolleyes:

Our oldest son comes home from Taiwan in less than 6 months and we will be making a trip to San Francisco to see some of my hubby's family (all 6 of us) and that will take precedence over a DLR or WDW trip. Although I was hoping to fit in a spring break trip in April, but I don't think it will happen. :sad1:

Thanks for the Dining plan info - I am sure after I have a chance to really look it over it will make more sense. Deciding what plan for you will be more difficult than me, unless they have more veggie options at WDW than DLR. But, hubby and I share a LOT when we go out and that puts a crimp in dining plans for us, too. I also watch ingredients carefully for artificial color - it causes serious problems in 3 of my kids - so we just avoid it as a family. So, the cute mickey suckers are NOT on our list. :sad2:

I'll just keep watching your pre-pretrip report and haunt your decision making - it helps to "know" someone and some of their background. :flower3:

bumbershoot
11-19-2009, 01:52 AM
This trip, as I have it planned in my head, will be separated in bits and pieces. Now since we are planning to use DVC points, but do not own at any of the resorts where we want to stay, everything has to stay really flexible until we can actually book. To say that this is difficult to figure out how to do, especially when providing lodging for other family members, is to make an understatement. I keep wishing I could fly out to talk with them. But we'd need a few days just b/c of the time loss for flying out there, which means Robert would need to take off time to watch E, and then our vacation gets shorter. :upsidedow

The first bit of this vacation, in my head at least, will be with just the three of us. We figured that starting things off with jet lag is not fun. So I thought...how could we get a couple days to start acclimating, how could that happen? Aha! A beach!

Well, the family lives near a beach, but they don't go, and staying in someone's guest room doesn't sound like acclimiatizing, it sounds like a yucko start to a vacation! So...how about...the DVC at Hilton Head!?! Now wait...that's 2 states away! And if I'm in SC I feel dangerously close to my chiropractic school, and i'm still dealing with the aftermath of quitting my practice and feeling like an idiot, etc etc...do I really want to be IN that state for a vacay?

No, not really.

So how about Vero Beach? The sand isn't the pretty white sand, and I hear the surf is rough, but it's the beach, it would be relaxing, and if we got anything with even a remotely beach view, we could leave the curtains open and be woken by the sunrise, which would go far towards getting us onto the new timezone!

Sounds fun!

So, whenever this vacation starts, we take a couple days before it, fly in, and....

And then it gets complicated. What airline? One-way rental cars are horridly expensive, so flying into Ft Lauderdale (just found out that Virgin America is going from CA to Ft L now, woo!) (wait, I don't live in CA...) would be fine at the start but just weird to go back to in order to return the rental car at the end.

Well, how about MCO? So we'd fly into the WDW airport, get a car, and drive away? Augh. Same deal with the other airports...frustrating, or no good airlines (for us) that go into them, etc etc etc.

Obviously that part needs some heavy thinking.

But the Vero Beach part, that sounds gooooood. No need to torture the family by making them go to the beach. No being made fun of for going to the beach in December. Just chilling out, the three of us (though as some might know, there would be absolutely no objection to a new baby joining us, or even being a bit pg, or a lot pg, or even hugely pg (there are birth attendants in FL, after all) though that last one makes the transportation a mite difficult), relaxing at the very very start of the vacation.

Similar to a preprepre trip report, eh?

So that's the first bit of this plan in progress.

bumbershoot
11-19-2009, 01:57 AM
Our oldest son comes home from Taiwan in less than 6 months and we will be making a trip to San Francisco to see some of my hubby's family (all 6 of us) and that will take precedence over a DLR or WDW trip. Although I was hoping to fit in a spring break trip in April, but I don't think it will happen. :sad1:

I also watch ingredients carefully for artificial color - it causes serious problems in 3 of my kids - so we just avoid it as a family. So, the cute mickey suckers are NOT on our list. :sad2:


What a nice trip you will have to SF! I'm jealous.

Oh artificial colors, they are rotten! We don't absolutely know that colors "get" to Eamon, because they tend to go hand in hand with the corn syrup products, and no one is THAT interested to test it. Well, no one has been...he's been really interested in Sweet Tarts, and colors are their offensive ingredient, but otherwise they would be basically OK. We're all mulling over buying a roll of them, have a few days of excellent eating, then letting him have a couple (maybe focusing on one color) and see what happens. He's old enough that he can be really aware of what's going on with his mood.

Of course, it's flat out healthier to avoid them, but sometimes he doesn't like feeling weird...this Halloween was really hard for him. :sad1:

Brady's Mom
11-19-2009, 11:04 AM
I hear you about how hard it is for your kidlet to feel weird. Our oldest was VERY allergic to milk for a long time. So much so, that I had to give up milk when he was nursing in order for him to stay healthy. He couldn't have a LOT of things other people could have and that was hard for him. He is also one of our kids that has problems with color. It manifests as depression in him and really started in 4th grade - after he discovered that milk no longer bothered him. :confused3

The color idea is a good one. If you try ONE color and see how he does and he is aware of how he is feeling, it could really work for him. It could be that he will have a small reaction - but not enough to send him through the roof - and he could "handle" it okay. Maybe he'll be just fine and it's the HFCS that really does it for him. I like the idea of some really good eating with really healthy food for a few days and no sign of sickness or tiredness that might skew any results and then giving it a try. But, the thought of the mess he might be would make me think twice before I tried it. ;) Decisions, decisions.

I LOVE the idea of Vero Beach for some time to get used to the time change. It would really mess me and my family up, too. Besides we love the beach - even in December and would go anytime we could. We go to the beach in SF in Dec. and that beach is COLD!! And how can you live in FL and not like the beach?? :confused3

bumbershoot
11-19-2009, 04:19 PM
And how can you live in FL and not like the beach??

I do not know! I bet the kids love it, my cousin's kids that is. But my aunt is a Floridian NOT by choice...her parents retired early there then my grandfather died, my aunt went through a nasty divorce and had some career problems, and she and my cousin moved in with her mom when cousin was very little. Then they got their own place but my grandma started the march into alzheimers so she was the caregiver...and somehow my cousin ended up growing up there. She met her husband in FL, but he's from PA. They'd LOVE to move up there, and my aunt would follow them in a heartbeat, but cousin's husband has a job that he feels is good for him, and refuses to try for another job, even though his old friends back home practically throw jobs at him. So cousin and aunt are stuck until he takes someone up on a job offer.

But they adore WDW, so moving away from there would be difficult. :upsidedow Cousin and husband actually spent their dating/courting time at WDW and hanging out with friends in lobbies of the hotels...so cute. :love: Cousin worked for Disney Store back then (before it was sold then later brought back into the disney fold) and got a great deal on tickets...


We've been tossing around the artificial color "test" idea for awhile. He actually has had a certain cookie with "black" on it, and has been fine. But then he got sort of addicted to the cookie, which is how he reacted with the "bad" foods...and "black" is actually dark dark green I guess. Which is obvious when his body is all done with the food, let me tell you!


What's funny is that we've only been to the beach as a family once. Ooh maybe twice, but does the shore in Tacoma's Point Defiance Park really count? I don't think so. So I have NO idea if we're beachy people! I once was, as a kid, with a dad who lived in Santa Cruz. During the time that he lived in walking distance from the Beach Boardwalk I was just in heaven.

Anyway, finding out if we like it at the beach will be interesting! Seems they have some sports equipment that would be fun for us to check out.

Oh and just yesterday I was reading a mystery about a travel writer, and she was on assignment to find out if the "old" kitschy Florida still exists, and I started to imagine that it would be GREAT fun to find out if it does! Made me want to fly into a more northern airport, renting a car and visiting South of the Border, wherever that is, just for fun!

Not sure if I could deal with a gator farm/park type place, but I'm sure there are other kitschy things.

bumbershoot
11-19-2009, 10:14 PM
Ahhh, worked out and E had his gymnastics class. :)


Before we left, I googled something that was in the mystery novel, and it actually exists! DinoWorld. An hour from Orlando, and I don't know which direction, but it's worth thinking about. :goodvibes

$12.75 for adults - $9.75 for children ages 3 to 12 - $10.75 for seniors over 60-

A highlight of the park is the Fossil Dig. Here, children age 3-12 can sift through sand in a paleontological setting in search of authentic fossils and may keep 3 fossils as a memento of their trip.

Fossil Dig tickets are included in the child admission price for ages 3-12. Anyone over 12 or under 3 who wants to dig, the price is $2 extra.


This could be fun....

bumbershoot
11-19-2009, 11:58 PM
South of the Border is in South Carolina?? Augh. And drat.

Also, how did I never hear of this place? I drove from SC to VA and back a gazillion times while in chiro school and while my mom and stepdad lived in VA. Odd.

I was also confused as I went through GA many times, and into Florida once, and still never heard of it, but the whole "it's in SC" aspect is really super-confusing.

Then again, I was there in the early/mid 90s when all the highways were under HUGE construction, so it's possible my attention was elsewhere. That, or it was on singing the soprano parts in Phantom of the Opera, or, um, that one really really BAD and STUPID part of one of the trips where I polished my nails and, omg, read a book, while driving. :sad2: (me at 24ish=not so bright!)

Brady's Mom
11-20-2009, 01:31 PM
The fossil dig sounds really cool. We have a dino museum near us and my little kids have tried it. It wasn't really an archeological setting just a pretend digging place. But, they have the tools like you would at a real dig and my kids thought that was cool. They also have a water source and sand play area where the kids can build dams and all kinds of other stuff with dinosaurs and plastic trees and stuff. They love to go there.

I always have a hard time planning time away from DLR, I think with WDW being bigger it would be harder to fit everything in. Thus I would have an ever harder time staying away from all of the things to do there.

But, then I feel a little let down if I haven't had a chance to explore what is around me. I get so torn.

How far is Tacoma from the beach? We were visiting friends in Bellevue a couple of years ago and I was surprised how far from the beach we actually were. There was a little bay that had a beach area and that is as close as we got. Lots of kayakers there, it looked fun. But that area worked for my kids, it had water, some coarse sand and little waves - it was good! :thumbsup2

bumbershoot
11-20-2009, 06:17 PM
Well, the beach question is hard! We're on Commencement Bay, which isn't the ocean. Any waterfront area is just big stones and such, even the more beachy area up at Point Defiance (which is something like the second largest in-city park next to Central Park...oh wait, that might be outdated...they call themselves in the top 20 largest municipal parks) is mainly stones.

And I've only been to a WA ocean beach once, and barely remember it. Took a couple hours to get there.

So there's lots of waterfront, but not a lot of *beaches*. :)



The huge amount of things to do and see is exactly the reason we want to be out there for a good solid trip. I don't want to rush at all. Or, not rushing crazily. We'll see how well I do on that one...

kaoden39
11-20-2009, 06:45 PM
I am here to live vicariously through your trip report.

bumbershoot
11-20-2009, 07:48 PM
Yay!!!!!

Of course, being 13 months out of what I HOPE is a trip...I think I am living vicariously through my own self! :rotfl:

kaoden39
11-20-2009, 08:05 PM
Well, we can all hang out and visit too. After the first of the year when I get the calendar of Scotty's bicycle races and his work schedule I will start my pre-trip fro Disneyland in June. I will be going over the summer.

bumbershoot
11-20-2009, 08:55 PM
I think I like your sig better, b/c it looks like Rudolph-Mike is glaring at that turkey.

I was going to start into what we want to happen after Vero, if Vero happens, but I realized I need to trim Eamon's hair (for those new to me who might be lurking, that's my 5 year old son). He has his first gymnastics event, a sort of exhibition, tomorrow night, and I'd like for his hair to look decent, instead of an overgrown helmet as he and his dad seem to grow! :upsidedow

kaoden39
11-20-2009, 08:59 PM
I think I like your sig better, b/c it looks like Rudolph-Mike is glaring at that turkey.

I was going to start into what we want to happen after Vero, if Vero happens, but I realized I need to trim Eamon's hair (for those new to me who might be lurking, that's my 5 year old son). He has his first gymnastics event, a sort of exhibition, tomorrow night, and I'd like for his hair to look decent, instead of an overgrown helmet as he and his dad seem to grow! :upsidedow

He is, isn't he?:laughing:

bumbershoot
11-21-2009, 12:39 AM
So after fun and games and relaxation and acclimatization, where do we go?

Do we go over to the coast to visit my family in their natural habitat (at least until they move somewhere else)? Do we go immediately to WDW, no passing go or collecting $200? Ooh hey, if the fam doesn't want to visit Universal, do we go there next?

It's all up in the air! I don't know! Though that Universal thing sounds interesting. We would very likely only go for Harry Potter "land", though knowing how tall Kidlet gets in the next 9 months or so and also finding the height info on their site will help us with that.

I do want to see their city, because I haven't been there in a million years. But...they don't live in Nama's great house on the river anymore. But gosh, wouldn't it be great fun to get some pictures of Eamon on the beach where they took me, when I was 4ish and brother was 2ish, when my uncle got married? Cute little kid beachy pics?

It all sounds good, frankly.

I think maybe I need to win MegaMillions and add about a month to this 3ish week vacation! So after sending all of our positive thoughts towards fairykin (a very giving woman from the disneyland forum, who is very very sick right now), let's give a blip of thought-time to that gosh-that's-not-important matter. 'mmmkayyyy?

Brady's Mom
11-21-2009, 12:21 PM
I love the memories you are planning on trying to fit in on your trip. It is totally the kind of thing that I would plan if I had that long. And how nice is it that R. can take that much time off at one time!!! That gives you time to get over your jet lag, see some fun things (like the beach) and make some great memories.

We always have funny/weird/silly stuff that happens every trip we take and those are the things we remember the most.

"Remember when we had our first trip to DLR and Nathan was only 2 and he slept in the stroller for 4 hours" kind of memories. Something always seems to *mark* the trip in some way and make it the trip where *that* happened. Or this last trip where Brady and Jeffrey rode Screamin' 5 times in a row one day since Brady was finally tall enough and then I rode it with him twice more the same day. He's pretty proud of his record of riding Screamin' 15 times in the 3 days we were at DCA. So, this last trip will be the "time Brady rode Screamin' 15 times in 3 days" trip.

I hear ya about the planning which day in which park - I think that sort of blows my mind. And what if my fam doesn't like AK and only wants to ride the dinosaur ride and that's it - but we've used our tickets to get in there and now what do we do??? And if we consider park hoppers (which I am sure are called something else) can we justify the extra expense when we might actually like AK more than we thought and want to stay there the whole day???!!!

Okey dokey, back to making some ginger oatmeal cookies that are fabulous and my family loves! New recipe, it's good!

bumbershoot
11-21-2009, 04:17 PM
Ooh yum, post the recipe!

A 4 hour stroller nap! 15 times on Screamin' in 3 days! I'd still be dizzy. :)

He is SO lucky to be able to save up his vacation time. And now that he's not in customer service, there's no phone shift, so it's OK to take a big vacation. Let's just hope things remain the same so there's no more scary upheavals (knock on Ikea wooden table).

I was doing some quick calculations about food last night. For now we don't plan on adding the hopping option (you pay a flat fee to hop...to hop on a one day ticket is $52 plus tax...to hop on a 10 day ticket is $52 plus tax...you can add it at any time, but of course you gotta have that $52 plus tax times however many people want to hop!), so let's say we're on a Magic Kingdom day. Start off with an early pre-opening breakfast at Crystal Palace. Then a light-ish lunch at Columbia House (Harbor House? something like that...they have a hummus sandwich that sounds good), then a snack, and maybe a dinner or just a dessert later on... Adding that all up and adding tax, you get...just about what it would cost for the Dining Plan for that day. Or an Animal Kingdom day...have breakfast in the room, then have the "picnic in the park" thing that hopefully they'll still offer...then a dinner at Tusker House...again, adds up to just about what the Dining PLan would cost once you add tax to the out of pocket food costs (with the Dining Plan you don't add tax to anything, you just pay what the price is up front).

So with those quick calculations, as long as we're not sharing every non-buffet meal, it comes out about even, and that's not even mentioning using a snack credit for an apple, or the occasional latte or something....

I was giving Robert an early head's up that even though in the past it hasn't seemed worth it, I might decide that it is (and frankly, I'd want to save up about the same amount of money for food per day as it would cost with the dining plan, just to make sure...and add 20% of that amount to save up for food tips). He got weird about it, as usual. But we kept talking long enough to find out that FOR ONCE he's not stressed about the money (now that he's seen what changes we CAN make, when he never knew we could make changes before), but he just wants to make a decision.

Ha ha , yeah right! I actually asked him, with a sweet smile...have we met? :rotfl: I let him know that when staying on DVC points you can add the Plan up to 48 hours before check in...I think I heard him mumble "oh my Buddha" or something like that as I walked off...I'll just pretend that he's happy about many more conversations about the Plan vs OOP. :upsidedow

Brady's Mom
11-22-2009, 04:29 PM
Okay - here's the cookie recipe.

Ginger Oatmeal Cookies
3/4 C. butter
1 C. sugar
1 egg
1/4 C. light molasses (I'm not a big fan of "light" things since they add weird things to it, so I just used regular)
1 1/2 C. flour (unsifted) [I ended up adding more flour than this since my dough was really, really soft and my cookies spread toooo much.]
2 t. baking soda
1/2 t. salt
1 t. cinnamon
3/4 t. cloves
3/4 t. ginger
2 C. oats (you can use quick oats, but I never buy them, I just put regular oats in my blender for a quick pulse or two and voila - quick oats)

Beat butter, sugar, egg and molasses. Mix dry ingredients. Combine and add oats. Grease pan. Bake at 350 for 8-9 minutes. 8 1/2 minutes worked perfectly. I doubled the recipe, since I have cookie monsters at my house and it's a good thing I did since they are almost gone. :scared1:

I am sure that R. is delighted about the many more conversations you will have about the dining plan vs. OOP. :lmao:

Have you decided whether you will add the hopping option? Not that hopping seems to be as big of a deal at WDW. Maybe it has something to do with the transportation. :rolleyes1

bumbershoot
11-22-2009, 04:43 PM
Oh that sounds good. And the cinnamon is good (helps with R's blood sugar SO much!). And I have all the ingredients right here....hmm.


I think I just have to keep my back-and-forths inside. I nearly drove him insane with that sort of thing while planning our (his dream...I wanted Vegas) wedding, and back then I felt 100% justified since I had NO dreams or hopes for the wedding, and had to make it all up from scratch, thought since this was his idea he really really really should have had some ideas. But with this, we know that I do a fairly good job of planning these things. So it'll be fine.


Hopping...I will not add it up front. But hopefully I'll have the funds set aside, just in case! Hopping around a place bigger than my city of Tacoma does NOT sound easy or simple! Though if we have a car, and we might very well rent one, it might be easier than when using their bus system....

bumbershoot
11-22-2009, 06:58 PM
Wee! Just did a bunch of overdue housework, and am sitting for a few minutes.

Well, no matter if we go to Universal, find some other silly things to do, or visit my family on the coast, at some point, we will all end up at WDW.

In my heart of hearts, I would love to START WDW with my family. Why? Because if we start with them, I can let my cousin be our tourguide, and I can know that anything we didn't get to that long weekend, we can get to later. And she might show us some GREAT things, give us some great tips, etc etc, that we can use when on our own. Starting off with an experienced tourguide will probably be wonderful!

And then once they go back home (cousin and family...aunt might stay, might not, don't know, but just know that she's included if she wants to be) we can do our stuff. If we didn't like cousin's touring style, we'll do it differently. If we thought it was great, we'll continue in her way.

So, because she has 2 kids, and because I don't *think* she's stayed there before, and because it seems they have fun activities, I would like to stay at Animal Kingdom Lodge with them! I figure, if we can, we might could (oh I love that phrase, thank you time in SC for giving me that phrase) get either 3 studios (one for us, one for cousin+, one for auntie), or one studio and one 1-bedroom if auntie would prefer to do that instead of being alone. I really REALLY do not want her to feel like an add-on.

Of course this is all very flexible, because again I don't own points at AKL. And even though it's a low-point time, it's a high-DVC-popularity time. So who knows if this will even be possible.

But if asked the question of "what do you really want", that's it, they join us for the first few days of WDW, we stay at AKL. Now, the one issue is that my cousin and her kids have congenital cataracts. They have all had surgeries and wear glasses, and I don't know the status of vision of the kidlets...but I know my aunt never took my cousin to zoos, because cousin wouldn't be able to see the animals very well. So if that's the case for the kids, then staying at the lodge might not be the absolute best idea. But IF it works for them, that's my fave idea.:goodvibes

kaoden39
11-24-2009, 12:47 AM
I would love to stay at AKL myself. I think it would be exciting. There is a place up by Colusa, California that is a wild animal park that you can stay at that I have considered for vacation. And Disneyland always wins.

bumbershoot
11-24-2009, 03:11 PM
Ooh that sounds neat. As long as they have interesting animals. :)



So I sent my cousin an email, giving her an overview of what I was thinking for their part of the stay, and asking where they might want to stay, and also wondering when they'd be able to come! Her son will be in 2nd grade, and I don't want to cause problems with his schedule.

She's promised a bigger reply, but responded to the part where I joked about how I wish I could go out there to talk in person b/c it would be so much easier. She is all in favor of me doing that. But it was a joke! Though i would love to...but with the time it takes to get over there, I couldn't just fly over for a two day weekend, so Robert would have to take time off to watch E, and then our vacation is shortened. Plus, it's not cheap.

Glad she likes the idea, and she said that they'd take me to see the resorts, but I just don't think it can happen!

kaoden39
11-24-2009, 03:40 PM
My brother in law and his ex went a few years ago and they really liked it. I do know that they have Giraffes which I truly love.

bumbershoot
11-25-2009, 03:09 PM
Wow! The biggest fruit stand, Orange World, is really close to WDW! That is most excellent. :)

And according to the satellite view of it...it's right next to a Waffle House. I've been to a few, but hubby and son have not.


There are books about Florida kitsch...none of them are on the Kindle yet! Dagnabit.

bumbershoot
11-27-2009, 05:15 PM
In my dream world of cousins agree with my timing, choices, and plans, as well as being able to get all the DVC rooms I want booking 7 months out...what would we want to do after the relatives (unless my aunt stays with us) leave?

Old Key West villas, of course! See, to me, staying at a FL-inspired place would be most excellent, when staying in FL. Plus they are bigger than the other studios.

I didn't think the extended family would want to stay at a FL-inspired place, since they live in FL. But hmm, I know my aunt's place looks nothing like OKW, and maybe cousin's place doesn't either. So maybe it would be enjoyable to them! If they wanted OKW too, I'd be able to provide them with more, for longer, if they wanted that, b/c the point costs are lower and availability is higher. Maybe it's worth a suggestion, when I put it that way. :goodvibes

I'll admit there's an urge to try out Bay Lake Towers for just a day (because that's the resort where we "own" points), or even Saratoga Springs Resort (because that's where we would have bought if we bought the first time we sat through a sales pitch in '07 and we like the looks), but wowie that would be a LOT of resort changes!

bumbershoot
11-29-2009, 03:55 AM
What the heck am I supposed to plan now? Er, pre-plan.

Crud, this thread is going to be closed for non-activity...someone, ask questions! Tell me what I really should do! People are out there, looking at the thread, I can see the lookie-loo count go up...any ideas? :goodvibes

kaoden39
11-29-2009, 02:46 PM
Do you plan on concentrating on the parks we don't have in California?

bumbershoot
11-29-2009, 10:25 PM
I think we'll be focusing on just about everything. :goodvibes Hmm, wait, that's not really "focusing". :)

kaoden39
11-29-2009, 10:35 PM
I think we'll be focusing on just about everything. :goodvibes Hmm, wait, that's not really "focusing". :)

That sounds like the best idea to me. I would do it all.

Brady's Mom
12-02-2009, 11:43 AM
Okay, how do you do the eating out ALL the time for almost 3 weeks? I have a hard time with it for 5 or 6 days. :confused3 AND we are not vegie. I just get really bored with the same things all the time and it's hard to get my younger kids to eat anything but nuggets and burgers.

We have a hard time finding the same types of things we eat at home, away from home.

I would LOVE to plan a trip to WDW and some beaches in FL, but it seems overwhelming. And I would want to see everything, too, which might make our trip way too long! ;)

bumbershoot
12-02-2009, 04:43 PM
Oh gosh yes the eating thing. Gah. Don't want to think about that right now. Maybe tomorrow. Tomorrow is another day! :upsidedow


OK the sheer amount of time we'll be away is starting to make me woozy. I think I need to go work out now.


The thing that prompted that was that I was typing "have a car rented the whole time" and then I thought THREE WEEKS of car rental omg might as well drive the car cross country it might be cheaper! Um, if we slept in the car, that is. :rotfl2:

TinkandPooh
12-02-2009, 04:51 PM
Original title:



Little things like...what are our dates, should we start in Vero or with family in Port Orange, will my aunt stay with my family of 3 the whole time or go home with her daughter+family, can hubby go without a vacation day for 13 whole months to maximize our FL time....

Pesky little things like that. :upsidedow


More later about the plans for our Very First Trip to WDW! In merely 13 months. We think.
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Editing in the below sentences 11/19.

As you can see from my posts on the 19th of Nov, a theme has developed, an interest has been sparked. So along with WDW and visiting family and Vero, it seems we might be looking for fun kitschy stuff along the way. :goodvibes
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Another title change, 11/22.

Just liked the term "old Florida" better.



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let me introduce myself (http://disboards.com/showpost.php?p=34374166&postcount=4)
I wanna start in Vero... (http://disboards.com/showpost.php?p=34391829&postcount=8)
bring on the Dinos! (http://disboards.com/showpost.php?p=34403826&postcount=12)
going from point Vero to point *meeting the family* (http://disboards.com/showpost.php?p=34417330&postcount=21)
would the fam likeses the precious AKVillas? (http://disboards.com/showpost.php?p=34434346&postcount=26)
aaaahhhhh!!!! giant oranges!!!!!! (http://disboards.com/showpost.php?p=34469207&postcount=30)

Molly,
I post over at the DL boards and often see your posts. I just had to say that I realized that you were planning a trip to WDW in Dec 2010 and we will be there as well in Dec 2010:goodvibes
We are staying at the AKL and I am so looking forward to being back at WDW.
What dates in Dec 2010 will your family be there?
How exciting:cool1::woohoo:
We are going to be there for 12 days and I am considering seeing if we can split the stay and stay the last 4 or 5 days at the GFH....just don't kow yet...still thinking.
Anyhow just had to tell you that we are going to be there at the same time.

bumbershoot
12-03-2009, 12:51 AM
Hi TinkandPooh! How cool that you will be there in December!

We haven't firmed up dates yet with my family out in Florida. My cousin's kids have been having some health things going on, and it's SO far ahead of time that it makes sense they don't know. I mean...her son is in 1st grade, and by the time of the trip he'll be in 2nd...and she's supposed to know when his winter break is? I might be asking too much. :upsidedow



All that said, I read something on the Dis today that would have made my blood turn cold, if it were that serious a matter. :3dglasses What was it, you ask? All...1, 2, 3...three of you reading along...are wondering....and here it is. It's something that has opened my empathetic mind and made me realize why people tweak when their favorite ride will be closed. You see, I have no absolute MUSTRIDE favorite sort of ride.

But my son does. Star Tours. I thought it was only closing in Anaheim in October '10. But...I just read that it's closing at the same time in Orlando.

Nooooooooooooooo.

Hedy
12-03-2009, 09:16 PM
Hi TinkandPooh! How cool that you will be there in December!

We haven't firmed up dates yet with my family out in Florida. My cousin's kids have been having some health things going on, and it's SO far ahead of time that it makes sense they don't know. I mean...her son is in 1st grade, and by the time of the trip he'll be in 2nd...and she's supposed to know when his winter break is? I might be asking too much. :upsidedow



All that said, I read something on the Dis today that would have made my blood turn cold, if it were that serious a matter. :3dglasses What was it, you ask? All...1, 2, 3...three of you reading along...are wondering....and here it is. It's something that has opened my empathetic mind and made me realize why people tweak when their favorite ride will be closed. You see, I have no absolute MUSTRIDE favorite sort of ride.

But my son does. Star Tours. I thought it was only closing in Anaheim in October '10. But...I just read that it's closing at the same time in Orlando.

Nooooooooooooooo.
Eep. Maybe he'll give it up in the next year?

bumbershoot
12-04-2009, 11:05 AM
Sadly, we aren't planning any DLR trips before the WDW trip. Gotta pay off that car...finally realized it just didn't feel right to pay scads of interest (hubby had neutral credit when he got the loan, only one bank would give him the loan, and the interest rate is sick and wrong) on the car while spending $$$ at DLR. Took us awhile to get to that point mentally, but we're there!

I mentioned that maybe we should change the trip to October (which would be my b'day, cousin's son's b'day, cousin/husband's anniversary month) but Robert got this scared "OMG that's less time to save for this trip" look in his eyes and I dropped it.

Hopefully they'll have it WELL covered with refurb walls so E doesn't even notice the Star Tours area...


And hello Hedy!

kaoden39
12-04-2009, 06:54 PM
Any word on what they are doing with Star Tours? At least if we do go in June we will get to ride on it.

bumbershoot
12-04-2009, 08:25 PM
They are changing the storyline; perhaps putting in more than one. Which of course means they are changing the motion of the simulators, etc etc.

As long as it is not ONLY podracing I'm sure it will be fine...though I don't see anything wrong with the old story, either. I could leave it with the old story until time immemorial, and it would be just as fun!

kaoden39
12-04-2009, 08:32 PM
That's my thought. I just love it. But I do see a lot of people complain that they think it is boring.

Brady's Mom
12-05-2009, 05:20 PM
My kids really love the ride, too. I could do without it. It gives me a motion sick headache every time - and I don't usually get motion sick. :sick:

I don't mind the story line, I don't really know that much about Star Wars. I didn't see the movie when I was a teenager, I walked out of the theater. :scared1: And even though I have 4 boys, I still haven't seen ANY of the movies from start to finish. I'm sure I've seen enough pieces of them at different times to have actually seen some of the movies, but never start to finish. Most people are shocked to learn that I don't really care for Star Wars. Just never my cup of tea.

And we're not planning a visit to DLR any time soon, either. It seems a little sad and somehow a little wrong. We have some other stuff we need to do as well and that is taking precedence over a return trip. Although I keep trying to figure out if we could manage spring break (week after Easter for us), but haven't been able to do it. Our AP's are active until about May 25, so it is just travel and hotel and food, but still, more money than we want to spend right now. :sad1:

bumbershoot
12-05-2009, 07:15 PM
That's my thought. I just love it. But I do see a lot of people complain that they think it is boring.

I've seen the "boring" reports, and I've seen it picked apart on another board...I think sometimes people forget that not everyone goes EVERY week. Some talk about kids needing something "from" the later-made movies...but the ride's story is hardly "from" the first 3, and new kids (and grownup kids!) are constantly discovering it for the first times...



I don't mind the story line, I don't really know that much about Star Wars. I didn't see the movie when I was a teenager, I walked out of the theater. :scared1: And even though I have 4 boys, I still haven't seen ANY of the movies from start to finish. I'm sure I've seen enough pieces of them at different times to have actually seen some of the movies, but never start to finish. Most people are shocked to learn that I don't really care for Star Wars. Just never my cup of tea.

And we're not planning a visit to DLR any time soon, either. It seems a little sad and somehow a little wrong. We have some other stuff we need to do as well and that is taking precedence over a return trip. Although I keep trying to figure out if we could manage spring break (week after Easter for us), but haven't been able to do it. Our AP's are active until about May 25, so it is just travel and hotel and food, but still, more money than we want to spend right now. :sad1:

I'm shocked too! :eek::flower3: My brother and I loved it when it came out, and DS has loved it since he first saw the first movie (though it was WAY too young, caused bad behaviour and had to be shelved for a year).

The storyline of the ride really isn't from any one movie...you're just in a tour shuttle with a new pilot. The place you're going is a place from the second movie (third? both?), then you ultimately come across a battle between the bad and good guys (lasts throughout all movies), but other than that there's nothing really from a movie. Which is why it BUGS me that they might be putting things directly from the movies into it! I like the "inspired by" stuff, not the "and here is the podracing scene", "and now it's the speederbike scene" etc etc.

I agree that it feels wrong to have no plans to go to DLR. And I feel SO bad for hubby; last year we got to go for DS and my birthdays, but not for DH's. :( The money just wasn't there, but that's b/c of so many '08 trips then the diva trip in early March, etc, and then suddenly we had the money for the trip in May ya know? I feel bad for him. He refuses to do a solo trip though, even while he supports mine; he just doesn't think he'd enjoy it! Well, he'll probably be back to traveling around that time anyway...

Brady's Mom
12-06-2009, 05:14 PM
Well, even though he won't get a Disney trip for his birthday at least he's been able to go to some places he hasn't been before.

My hubby hates to travel by himself - if he has to go somewhere for business - and he isn't really adventurous when he's alone. When we're together we are MUCH more adventurous and try and see a lot of new/fun/different stuff. I think I'm the more outgoing one when it comes to travel. After high school I toured Europe with a group and didn't know a soul when I first started traveling with them. It was great. I flew from Nor. Cal to Wash. DC to serve a congressional internship during college without knowing anyone or anything about what I was getting into, either. It turned out great, but I'm pretty sure hubby would have never done anything like that.

So maybe R gets his solo travel bug out of his system when he goes on business trips and the place doesn't really matter. KWIM?

I would love a solo DLR trip, but I think hubby might be mad since he loves DLR as much (or more) than I do!! I have thought about the girls only trip, but ANY sort of traveling has to wait until after our son gets home from Taiwan and then it's off to San Francisco. Hotels there are ridiculously priced and we have to get some sort of suite or 2 rooms since we have 6 people. We also need to be accessible to other parts of the Bay Area, since hubby has relatives spread all over and the trip is to re-connect or connect with some relations he's never met or hasn't seen in 25 years. Thank goodness we already know the safer places to stay and the areas to avoid. :thumbsup2

kaoden39
12-06-2009, 05:38 PM
Well, even though he won't get a Disney trip for his birthday at least he's been able to go to some places he hasn't been before.

My hubby hates to travel by himself - if he has to go somewhere for business - and he isn't really adventurous when he's alone. When we're together we are MUCH more adventurous and try and see a lot of new/fun/different stuff. I think I'm the more outgoing one when it comes to travel. After high school I toured Europe with a group and didn't know a soul when I first started traveling with them. It was great. I flew from Nor. Cal to Wash. DC to serve a congressional internship during college without knowing anyone or anything about what I was getting into, either. It turned out great, but I'm pretty sure hubby would have never done anything like that.

So maybe R gets his solo travel bug out of his system when he goes on business trips and the place doesn't really matter. KWIM?

I would love a solo DLR trip, but I think hubby might be mad since he loves DLR as much (or more) than I do!! I have thought about the girls only trip, but ANY sort of traveling has to wait until after our son gets home from Taiwan and then it's off to San Francisco. Hotels there are ridiculously priced and we have to get some sort of suite or 2 rooms since we have 6 people. We also need to be accessible to other parts of the Bay Area, since hubby has relatives spread all over and the trip is to re-connect or connect with some relations he's never met or hasn't seen in 25 years. Thank goodness we already know the safer places to stay and the areas to avoid. :thumbsup2

You know Fairfield might be convenient place to stay. There are a couple places out in the Cordelia part of the town, that were built just a few years ago.

bumbershoot
12-06-2009, 11:12 PM
I flew from Nor. Cal to Wash. DC to serve a congressional internship during college...

WOW! How exciting that must have been.



OMG it's so cold....Robert said it's going to be 17 in the morning as he makes his way to the bus...brr....

There's this plaza in our downtown that's just pathetic. My best friend is a city planner, and she says it was *supposed to be* great, but then the city employees made it and changed the plans. In the summer it's this vast plain of burning hot concrete; in the winter it's the steppes of upper Asia it's so plain and cold (actually I imagine Mongolia is much more beautiful than this plaza). In typical Tacoma way, people who love Tacoma are trying to create happenings, to make things better. And so this one guy, the guy who runs the downtown Farmer's Market (which is actually quite awesome), has created a holiday tree lot down there. We walked there the other day to check it out...bought a tabletop tree for E's room, which we have never had (ever) before. Today was the day we wanted to buy a big one, but our other errands (the guys playing "Molly's Santa" behind my back after I conveniently stopped in front of the things I liked, LOL) too much longer than expected, and we got there just after the sun went down. BRRRRRRRR. And I'd turned the heater off before we left, so it was fuurrrreeeezzzzzzing in the house.



In other news, I got my Orlando Official Vacation Guide in the mail. Sure, a bit early, but that's OK. :) And we came up with a plan for January; there's a huge urge to run away to a local B&B right after Jan 1 (while everyone else is getting over their hangovers), but we'll buy one WDW ticket instead. Woo! :3dglasses

Now...where to keep that thing?

teacherlisa1978
12-06-2009, 11:29 PM
Here's a tip I've heard for vegetarians, Molly. You've probably heard it already since you're interested in AKL but I've always heard Boma is the best place for vegetarians on property. Also Cantina de San Angel in World Showcase is supposed to be good. We ate inside Mexico not at the Cantina and liked it and I eat mostly vegetarian.

Looking forward to reading your pretrip. We are off to DLR in 12 days for our second December trip and definitely want WDW to be on the agenda some December soon. Maybe 2011? So I'll live vicariously through you.

Brady's Mom
12-07-2009, 02:28 PM
In other news, I got my Orlando Official Vacation Guide in the mail. Sure, a bit early, but that's OK. :) And we came up with a plan for January; there's a huge urge to run away to a local B&B right after Jan 1 (while everyone else is getting over their hangovers), but we'll buy one WDW ticket instead. Woo! :3dglasses

Now...where to keep that thing?

WooHoo - your first ticket. :banana: That will totally make the trip seem real. Ummm....how about a safety deposit box??? I would be worried about the dumb ticket for months. We had friends buy us the AP's from Costco last Feb. when they were in Cali. and didn't use them until the very end of May and I am sure I checked on them in hubbies drawer every day - just to make sure they were okay. 3 months was long enough. 10 or 11 months would have killed me! :rotfl:

bumbershoot
12-07-2009, 04:01 PM
teacherlisa1978, hello! I've definitely heard that Boma is good for veggies. Hadn't heard that about Cantina, but it's good to know!

I'm so jealous you're going to DLR soon!


Brady's Mom...we have a sd box right now, but we got it for MIL. So she has access. And she's making some interesting choices* right now, so I don't think we'll put anything of ours in there. I do have a Disney drawer in my closet; everything goes in there. It'll probably need to be put in there, too, but maybe I'll buy a little locking "cash box" to put it in so it can't slip through a crack or something.


*choices...back before FIL got sick and (through a long process of him harming himself while drugged and then getting some incompetent doctors at an incompetent hospital) died, my BIL's partner left. He held the mortgage on two sides of a duplex that BIL/him shared with MIL/FIL. MIL had put down a HUGE amount of cash for the mortgage. And they paid rent. But partner hadn't paid mortgage for something like a year. Shortly before he left, taking all the cars in his name (not all were bought by him), he had "borrowed" about 20K for a heart thing b/c he was uninsured. Soon after he disappeared, the notices of auction started showing up on the duplex doors. IT was well beyond the period that anyone could have saved the house. :(

So he basically stole 50K plus 20K plus a year's worth of rent from MIL/FIL. He also helped, we found out after FIL's death, empty MIL's life insurance policy, by being the second signer on a loan from the policy, that FIL forged MIL's signature on. We believe that FIL loaned him that money (another 20K) to try to save the duplex, but obviously that didn't happen...at the time that partner left, we couldn't figure out why FIL was almost exploding with anger, and later we realized that was likely the reason.

Well, it's one thing for BIL to take him back. After all, love does nutty things to our heads.

But now once-and-current partner is totally back, showed up at FIL's 3rd year memorial torment, er, service that MIL forces her kids to go to (they are all Buddhist, and MIL and SIL pretend FIL has found nirvana...BIL and DH flat out TOLD MIL this year that that just did NOT happen...at the funeral they were standing in the back wondering if the cockroach he had likely come back as had been stomped yet). He helped MIL move on Saturday. etc etc.

BIL is the eldest son, which is important in Korea. Therefore, his partner is important (even though MIL/FIL didn't speak to BIL for 5 years after he was outed by a former boyfriend). BIL would have access to everything, therefore partner would too. MIL has a key to the sd box. Therefore, we're not keeping *anything* in it. And once MIL's time comes...we're not actually expecting to find anything in it.


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Poor hubby! He went to walk to the bus today, slipped on the icy sidewalks (as he turned his body to look at a crash he'd just heard), and hurt himself so bad he had to call in sick! Just last night we ordered him some snow boot/shoes with nice tread. Too bad the transporter beam hasn't been invented, or maybe this wouldn't have happened in his big tread shoes!

bumbershoot
12-07-2009, 10:21 PM
Whew. He slept a whole bunch, then had a 3pm appt with our chiro. All better now!


The nice thing was that after his appt, he joined us at the Y for this special holiday month class they are doing...instead of a "swimming lesson" they are having mini lessons in specific strokes. Today was the crawlstroke. This was the first time Robert got to see E swimming after all the classes, and it was very exciting for him!

While sitting there watching and imagining E's first Olympics, I realized that if the timing works, this time a year from now we'll be hip deep in our WDW vacation! Woo!

bumbershoot
12-08-2009, 09:58 PM
Talked with my aunt today. Now she's pressuring me for a quick solo trip out there so that cousin can show me the resorts!

And what's painful is that I just found an early Jan fare, over a weekend (plus a day on each side), for 99 each way. :3dglasses

And what's nutty is that Robert *supports* this. He just likes me to have fun, even if fun means I go to Orlando for a few days while they hang at home.

But this would be nutty. I don't need to see these places; we have, what, 45 years of timeshare ownership to see the places! I'm happy going site unseen. As long as they aren't like the cruddy Super8 we stayed at in '07 in Southern Oregon, I'm good.

I was able to make sure they understood that, even though all we're *talking* about is WDW, that is only because it's the part that needs to be planned...the visit is very much to *visit*. Thankfully they all understand that!

kaoden39
12-08-2009, 10:04 PM
Oh my goodness, you are a strong woman. I might have gone....maybe.:goodvibes

bumbershoot
12-08-2009, 10:34 PM
Yeah, well...if there were offers to help compensate...I might. I mean, obviously I'm worth being paid to visit, right? :rotfl:

kaoden39
12-08-2009, 11:37 PM
Well of course you are.

Brady's Mom
12-09-2009, 12:10 AM
Yeah, well...if there were offers to help compensate...I might. I mean, obviously I'm worth being paid to visit, right? :rotfl:

:thumbsup2 You Bet You Are!!

I don't know if I could have said no to the ticket prices. And a chance to scope out the area and figure out what's what and where it is. But, then I might have needed park tickets since I'm so close I might as well see them while I'm there and not "waste" my airfare. . . .

Man, there's even a WDW snowball and you just missed being run over by it! :laughing:

I've never actually checked out the cost of a sd box at the bank. I suppose you could always consider a post office box to lock it up in. But that might be the same price or more or whatever.

I like the idea of a cash box, but have you considered a fireproof one that you could also keep other important papers in - insurance policies, car titles, social security cards, that kind of thing. DH and I have talked about getting one, we just never have. It seems like a good idea, we may have to revisit it.

bumbershoot
12-09-2009, 12:18 AM
I was wondering what the noise was as I closed out the southwest page....now I realize it was the snowball whizzing by!

But really I haven't said no. I've just said it has to be a perfect fare, perfect timing...any days Robert has to take off to be with E means a shorter vacation next year. I'm mighty tempted, that's for sure!


We have definitely thought about a fireproof safe. The cost has really bugged us! Which is stupid, b/c of course it's worth it.


Just watched Prep and Landing. Cute little show!

bumbershoot
12-09-2009, 03:49 PM
Just wrote this to Robert...


I think there would be worth and value in going out and hashing it (where they want to stay, when, explanation of "points") out with them face to face. But a whirlwind of looking at the resorts doesn't have huge value ot me.

But maybe THEY need me to see the resorts so they can have the convo with me.

bumbershoot
12-10-2009, 07:31 PM
Just realized that hubby&son's Disneyland APs are now expired along with mine. Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh.

Watching High School Musical 3 right now, b/c it's on On Demand and DS likes it. But what I think is amusing is that Eamon noticed that Troy looks like "Anakin as he turns into a bad guy" in some parts of the movie. :rotfl:


Anyone think the HSM thing will be over by next December? Does WDW have the roving/stalking HSM thing that DCA does? Or does it stay put where you can avoid it?

bumbershoot
12-11-2009, 04:12 PM
I feel like my concerns about when/where the cousin+family will join us are coloring my apparent excitement for this trip! But given how busy her son has been the last couple weekends with school and church, I'm guessing it's going to be more of the same next year, and I might just plan for them joining us later on.

So I'm going to go do some work around the house, thinking of all the fun things we want to do on this trip, and then come back and try to write about our excitement!



Adding....

One thing I'm excited about is what I'm already earning for the trip. I do a rewards site (two actually, but the second is merely 5 point emails at a time, so that goes slow...I expect I'll have enough on that site for a Landrys giftcard for Rainforest Cafe by the time of the trip) and I'm already close to 200, and I have about 11 months to go before cashing out for the trip. Exciting! Oh and the Disney Debit card is a slow-earner, but still, it's something. Once DH starts traveling again for his job, we *might* put the rewards program back on the credit union card in case he finds he's needing it. We canceled that b/c it was the same fee as the Disney Debit card and we didn't want to use the CC anymore, but for work, sometimes it's needed. So that wouldn't give us disney rewards, but using a "free" giftcard instead of cash for, say, clothing, means that more cash can go to the trip (or the car).

Exciting!

bumbershoot
12-14-2009, 12:52 AM
Had a good day today...went to meet up with a friend and his kids, to meet the kids before we (as a family) watch them on NYE. Ended up ice skating at Seattle Center, rode the monorail to Westlake, went to the Carousel there, went to Pike Place Market to pick up their tree, and visited their home. LOVED the ice skating (even though an old athletic injury made itself remembered ow ow ow ow) and enjoyed their home...but the rest just kept reminding me that we're not in Disneyland, waaaah. They had some lights strung across the market and it reminded me of DCA near the Lucky Fortune area....sigh.

For anyone in Seattle, on the way down the hill from the convention center area, just up the hill and across the street from Cheesecake Factory, there's a great little streetside Crepe place! Yummo! Nutella and bananas, yuuuuuuuum.

As we went back to our car, we were extremely tempted to give up our Yule dinner money by blasting through there rest of our "family fun" money and going into the grocery money (being held aside for Yule) to have dinner and a brewskie at a McMenamins place...cooler heads prevailed (DS!) and we just got into the car and came home for dinner. Whew!


None of this has huge amounts to do with the WDW planning...but it's full of good signs of better choices, which will fill our WDW coffers while helping us pay off the car. :goodvibes

Realized the other day that I *could* treat my cousin and her family to a long weekend at Bay Lake Towers...could treat us to it too...could even swing a 2 bedroom if we were willing to have close quarters...then we could go cheaper with our points the rest of the time...

Best part? I would be making *that* reservation in January, instead of having to wait for *everything* to book 7 months out.

Gotta contact my cousin (or just do it...can be changed later on).

bumbershoot
12-17-2009, 10:43 PM
Sent an email to my cousin about Bay Lake, and what weekend she's thinking about for her family.

I know that sounds like nothing, but in fact I've been working on the email for a long time! I just don't want to sound like a stressy freak about it, ya know?

Brady's Mom
12-18-2009, 12:47 PM
Sometimes it's just hard to be the uber-planner in the group. ;) I know, since I AM one. I get some funny looks sometimes, until we actually take the trip and then everyone is thanking me for making the trip so great and stress free.

Hooray for deciding on at least one of your places to stay. It sounds great. And good call by E. the other night about dinner and choosing to go home in order to save some money for WDW. Don't you love how pragmatic kids can be. :lovestruc

bumbershoot
12-21-2009, 05:18 PM
Happy Winter!

bumbershoot
12-21-2009, 06:03 PM
Haven't heard back from my cousin. She's busy with church and all that, so I understand. I look forward to hearing back of course, because it will let me know if I get to make our first reservations soon!

I'm now having crazy thoughts of delaying the start of the trip so that we can be at WDW over the 25th. Crazy, since we don't even celebrate the 25th. Sure, we celebrate ON the 25th, just b/c we're not willing to be that "weird", just for DS's sake, but it doesn't really matter. But it just seems like fun. :goodvibes

More points, though!


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Not at all trip related.

Hubby had an appt with a sports medicine doc today. He might have a meniscus tear in his knee. Augh. He stayed home from work all last week b/c he does quite a bit of walking for his commute, and his knee was feeling better. But the walking of his commute hurt him this morning, and then the bus stop he expected to use to get up to the doctor's office was closed, so he had to walk up the hill (he works in downtown/Pioneer Square/Int'l District in Seattle, and had to walk up to the hospitals up on the top of the hill) and of course that hurt too.

Thankfully the doc was not judgy about his weight...so many are, even when he is *blatantly* working to lose. I had to give him a big pep talk last night...if you feel judged, speak up, make sure they know you're athletic, have them look at your musculature and tell them to ignore the belly, especially with the prolactinoma, that bulk in the belly/back area LIES (if you think of a nursing woman's body holding onto squishy fat, that's pretty much what happened to him), etc etc etc. But thankfully they weren't rude at all!

And they said exactly what I'd been telling him. I have an Exercise Science degree, and I had tried to get him to do mostly cardio and NO weights early on, but he found some trainer at the Y who said the opposite, and here we are. I feel strongly that he hurt himself while getting into the leg press machine, and this trainer had him doing a 7 minute cardio warmup, an hour of weights, then 20 minutes more cardio. Even though his main goal right now is to lose weight! The gain in metabolism from working on his musculature is going to be minimal, given how much muscle he naturally has. But he got someone who knows stuff from textbooks and wasn't looking at him (or if she was looking, she was worried that he couldn't DO more cardio) and boom.

I will admit...there's been a few "I told you so" moments 'round here! :rolleyes1

So anyway, tomorrow he goes to have an MRI on his knee, then on Wednesday the doc will have him in again to find out what is actually going on, per the scan. So fast!

Sure hope he doesn't have to have surgery, though...



So happy, I finally finished DS's baby book! It goes to and just beyond the 3rd birthday, and last night I finished filling it up with pictures and notes. There's a lot of stuff in the generic book that just don't apply for our lifestyle, so I flat out glued some pages together when I had nothing to write on them, and covered up some stock art that didn't apply. Hubby read through it as I put DS to sleep, then he wrote his "letter from Daddy" at the end, and like that it was done! Woo!

Now we can move forward, in whatever way the Universe wants us to. :goodvibes


We also spent the week making new stockings! Yule stockings of course. (Happy Winter again!)

I had one made by my mom. DS had one made by my stepmom. DH had one made by me, from a kit, and I obviously have NO sense of sizes, b/c it was more along the line of a tree decoration stocking.

My stocking was falling apart, DS said his was too babyish and I said it was just TOO BIG (stepmom insists that her children still "believe", she does xmas up BIG (never with me or my brother, harumph), and has a ton to put into stockings), and of course DH just needed a normal sized one.

So I made them! Hubby helped, b/c he's better with the sewing machine. It was great fun. I should take pictures. :goodvibes


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So excited for next year's trip!

bumbershoot
12-22-2009, 05:51 PM
Well, hubby's traveling season is starting again.

It's good b/c it's what he was hired to do and these guys just sitting around in the office get bored and nervous, it's good b/c they pay to feed him and our grocery bill goes down, it's good b/c it makes me feel more confident (the start of my mothering "career" was NOT an ego boost, I was very undercut by what all happened and I've felt useless for many years, despite all of what DH has tried to tell me).

But it's sad b/c he goes away!

kaoden39
12-22-2009, 08:04 PM
Caring for your family although not as exciting or as self fulfilling in some ways but it is still a wonderful thing to raise your son. And everything you tell us about E tells me you are doing a great job. So don't be down on yourself.

bumbershoot
12-23-2009, 02:56 PM
Oh yes, I know that, no worries. It was just the start was really rocky. I had to depend on DH much more than I ever expected. So his trips help me see that I am capable, I can even put DS to bed on my own! (bedtimes have *always* been a two-parent thing with DS...I think of my friends who have more than one kid, and especially a family friend who had triplets without trying for multiples or even A baby in any way other than enjoying some private time with her then-fiance...and I think WOW am I glad we haven't had another yet)


DH had his MRI yesterday. Today he finds out if it's a meniscus tear. Of course...travel season is starting even earlier than we thought, he has a fast but far away trip starting Saturday! :eek:


The other benefit of his trips...I book the hotels, and I go through my rewards site, and that earns money for this WDW trip! :)

kaoden39
12-23-2009, 04:09 PM
And by planning it you know where exactly he will be staying and he has a say in it which is nice. I have a friend that had triplets, identical boys and they were a pleasant surprise.

bumbershoot
12-24-2009, 12:20 AM
Yes, it's very nice.

On his first trip, he let the company book his hotel. They got him a hotel and a car.

Found out after I started researching the hotel...his hotel had a free shuttle, and was not even a *mile* from the airport. He had to take the car rental shuttle *past* his hotel to pick up his car to then drive *back* to his hotel. :rotfl:

And people wonder why I won't use travel agencies...this is a BIG one up here in Seattle, and his department is now researching their own flights, calling the agency, telling them exactly what flights to book. All the agency is doing is booking. That's IT. I'm hoping that soon enough we'll be able to book his flights, too. NO, I don't understand how to book a codeshare (for instance his big flight DownUnder was all "through" United, though he was only on two United planes for all 6 flights), but I also know much much better than to give him one HOUR to get from one flight to another, when you have to get through Customs and Immigration, check into your next flight, then go back through Security. By the time he hit the Qantas desk to check in to get to Canberra it was already an hour and his flight was leaving...thankfully he'd already been on the phone with them.

So we're hoping we'll be able to do his flights soon enough.


Friend's triplets are identical girls. :goodvibes I have never met them in person, but they are adorable, and the spitting image of their mom. I grew up with their mom; our moms grew up with each other out in upstate NY then moved out to SF in the 60s...

bumbershoot
12-25-2009, 12:12 AM
Oh my goodness. We were on our way out to Costco for last minute food stuff. Checked the mail on the way out. Christmas money for Eamon, in the form of a check stating "fun stuff for E" and a giftcard. And so we were out for hours.... It's so much fun buying him stuff with his gift money! :goodvibes

kaoden39
12-25-2009, 04:10 PM
Oh gosh I bet you had crowds every where you went. Happy Holidays.

bumbershoot
12-26-2009, 03:26 PM
I think the parking lots were worse than being inside. Though we're not the "get to the closest spot" people, so I'll start at the back of the lot and just park. I'm not interested in fighting over a patch of concrete. :)

We managed to control ourselves at Costco...almost went crazy with the end of the budget for this month, but actually put those two movies away. Whew.

I couldn't believe how many took their kids to TRU on xmas eve! I thought we would be the only ones who did that. But nooooo. Definitely not alone. We spent a lot of time in the Lego section, and it was the first time we had DH's work iphone with us...my goodness were they charging a premium! There were almost no lego sets that were the same or less in the store as *anywhere* online, and we got those few sets that DS wanted. They charge CRAZY prices.

It's also amazing how many people were in the Lego section, having NO idea what they were looking for. Xmas eve, they'd done no research about the sets they were asked for!

This one lady was looking for a Batman set. This was the kid's one request. A quick wiki look shows that the line started in '06, and nothing new has been made since '08, and it's discontinued. A quick check on buying sites shows that some sets are going for over $500!

Oh and these were not people for whom internet is a newfangled invention...these were people my age, who certainly could have powered up their computers to check it out. (then again, so could the kids who were requesting these things!)

So anyway, it was a bit of a madhouse.

Heard this very Amy Winehouse looking young woman saying something like "people of my generation are very easily amused by things without, you know, harddrives attached".... That made me go "hmm", and I asked Robert in a whisper, what generation is that? is she over 50? Though in the writing, maybe she was saying that they were actually amused, as in laughing at, things without harddrives. It was very odd, no matter what.

DS now has a bike. :) Thank you lovely aunt and kind uncle!


Hubby is, right now, on an airplane getting ready to head off to places unknown (they just boarded). OK I know 'em, but let's not talk about it, shall we? Flight was oversold, next flight tomorrow, this is only 4 nights long, he's gotta go, got permission to buy Business Class upgrade. He just messaged me from his phone..."just got champagne, sorry you're not with me". Stinkin' companies, not paying for wives and children traveling with employees....dagnabit.

He'll be getting a couple days off when he gets back, which is nice, since he absolutely gave up his weekend for this.

But again, the agency doing his travel is just insane. On a trip like this, you do NOT book the airline that has ONE flight out per day. Another airline had 3 flights per day, and the earliest was the cheapest...they should have booked that one. But they are so into their "must book through codeshare" stuff that they can't see sanity. They saved a few bucks, but now it's cost much much more for the upgrade. Would have been much easier to book the little bit more expensive, first flight of multiple flights (just in case of being bumped) that day, flight. Although I'm intimidated by booking his flights, I think I can do a better job than their agency can!

And, of course, let me mention that January will see me buying an admission ticket for one of us for the WDW Trip! Woo!

bumbershoot
12-27-2009, 04:12 PM
Well I still haven't heard back from my cousin. Which is fine. Ohm. She's busy. I know this. Ohm. Ohhhhhhhhhm.

But I just came across a nice idea while perusing the DVC forums. They were talking about weekends and the higher point cost, and they also mentioned they were going to Universal for Harry Potter once it's open. And someone said that instead of paying cash at DVC, and instead of the cost of finding a way to/from Universal, why not pay for 2 nights at one of the onsite Universal hotels instead?!

That gets you front of line access, and I guess it's for the day of the night you stay and the day you check out, too. That would be great! Someone else mentioned that you don't normally get FOL for new/most popular rides, but to be able to get on OTHER rides quicker would be great, giving us more time to stand in line at HP. Because we DO plan on going there, oh yes indeed.

So that's a really fun idea, and I surely do hope that my cousin tells me what week she might be thinking about, so I can start looking at deals at Universal! (doubt she'd want to go there)

Brady's Mom
12-27-2009, 04:25 PM
Well I still haven't heard back from my cousin. Which is fine. Ohm. She's busy. I know this. Ohm. Ohhhhhhhhhm.

But I just came across a nice idea while perusing the DVC forums. They were talking about weekends and the higher point cost, and they also mentioned they were going to Universal for Harry Potter once it's open. And someone said that instead of paying cash at DVC, and instead of the cost of finding a way to/from Universal, why not pay for 2 nights at one of the onsite Universal hotels instead?!

That gets you front of line access, and I guess it's for the day of the night you stay and the day you check out, too. That would be great! Someone else mentioned that you don't normally get FOL for new/most popular rides, but to be able to get on OTHER rides quicker would be great, giving us more time to stand in line at HP. Because we DO plan on going there, oh yes indeed.

So that's a really fun idea, and I surely do hope that my cousin tells me what week she might be thinking about, so I can start looking at deals at Universal! (doubt she'd want to go there)

I love the idea of Universal. I think it is supposed to be MUCH better in FL as opposed to CA. We're actually thinking about branching out on our next DLR visit (who knows when that will be) and including San Diego and possibly Universal. It's weird to think about including the other places since we are usually so focused on DLR.

The FOL pass sounds so great. If you don't stay onsite for Universal - don't they charge for the pass? And HP - I would love to do HP!! :thumbsup2

kaoden39
12-27-2009, 06:52 PM
Oooh, I want to go. I love the Harry Potter books. I had a lot of fun sharing them with my kids when they were younger. And it got me so hooked. :laughing:

Hedy
12-27-2009, 06:59 PM
I like Universal a lot (it's not WDW, but nor is it Six Flags). Be forewarned-the vegetarian options there are pretty lousy. I can cope through a four night stay, but I don't have your family's allergies.

bumbershoot
12-27-2009, 07:52 PM
The FOL pass sounds so great. If you don't stay onsite for Universal - don't they charge for the pass? And HP - I would love to do HP!! :thumbsup2

Yeah, I just saw a post on the Theme Park board...it's something like $35 per person?

Oooh, I want to go. I love the Harry Potter books. I had a lot of fun sharing them with my kids when they were younger. And it got me so hooked. :laughing:

I think it's going to be fun! They have a whole area of their website dedicated to the plans. I can't imagine how it could possibly be as cool as we WANT it to be, but it'll still be fun.

I like Universal a lot (it's not WDW, but nor is it Six Flags). Be forewarned-the vegetarian options there are pretty lousy. I can cope through a four night stay, but I don't have your family's allergies.

Ooh good point. Thank you.

Silly Little Pixie
12-31-2009, 04:48 AM
Okay Molly, I've lurked long enough! YOur pre-trip report is fun!

I can totally relate to your frustration with the family not *getting* why you need to plan dates etc now. On our November trip I had the darndest time getting my relatives to commit. Eventually I booked anyway and planned for ourselves, and added them in when they eventually decided on dates- oh, 2 months ahead!

I too went back and forth a zillion times on the Dining Plan. We had used it and loved it in 2008-but now we'd be there longer, and have the kitchen at AKV. What to do?! I eventually planned out each day, made my ADRs (which DH hates, he loves the spontaneity of DL), and then actually figured out what I thought each of us would eat at each meal, adding it all up. I figured we'd save about $100 on the plan. We actually ended up with a couple C/S meals left over so it wasn't $100 we saved but still we were ahead, even using the AKV kitchen for non-buffet breakfasts. Still am not sure if we'll do it again for 11/2010, really depends on if BIL/SIL join us. (again with the waiting on relatives so I can make appropriate DVC reservations!!) I can tell my planning is rubbing off on DH though, today he was asking about how many points we have left for WDW in 2010 after our VGC stay in February. FWIW we loved AKV, found it super relaxing, roomy, and quiet. Just what we wanted, and watching the animals off our balcony never got old.

We're planning on a day at Universal too. Never been, but Harry Potter Land totally has me hooked! I think we'll just do one day there though. I can't wait to read reports when it opens.

Do you have a Passporter for WDW? Well worth it, and I think you can get a 2008 or 2009 one cheaply from Amazon. Not a lot of changes in the parks or restaurants since then anyway. I am still using my 2008 one,and love it.

Silly Little Pixie
12-31-2009, 03:52 PM
Also- if you're looking for a good "old Florida" guide, try the website roadsideamerica.com. We used it to find awesome free, historic, and kitschy places on our cross-country roadtrip this last summer!! I haven't looked for Florida, but it has all states. It will even map it out for you. Sooooo much fun!

bumbershoot
12-31-2009, 04:52 PM
Thanks for joining in! Yay! Another person. :goodvibes

(has anyone else seen WallE's hilarious thread on the CB today? the mods are playing with it, locking and unlocking it, and people are getting tags left and right, it's hilarious)

Passporter is a most excellent idea, thank you for reminding me! I think the '09 just came out, didn't it?

And thank you for the website idea!

I had just figured out this great plan (for the Dining Plan...a plan for the Plan). Since we'll be moving around resorts quite a bit, I figured we could get the Plan for one part, and if it works out well, up to 48 hours before our next move, we could add the Plan to that, etc...or if we hate the Plan, we could cancel it, etc etc.

But now that new DVC functionality says that there won't be multiple confirmation numbers for each split stay, that it'll be all one, so now I don't know if that's possible anymore! Waaaah! Even Robert agreed to the plan I'd come up with. And he's totally against the DDP since he can't see it working for us.

Just reading the Universal forums here is making me want to go go go there for a big stay! I have to keep reminding myself...these places will be here for years and years to come. We have BLT for years and years to come. We will go again, this is NOT a one-time thing.


Well, I gotta go get DH up from slumber. He got home from the Far East early this morning, but we have to babysit some kids in Seattle tonight, and we do need to start getting ready!


I hope everyone has/had a lovely New Year's Eve. I haven't spent much time thinking about the new year and all that, and going from the oughts/aughts into the tens, but I sure am looking forward to great (and not "terrible but great" like the deeds Voldemort did...I want just plain GREAT) things happening soon!

Happy New Year!





Had to edit in Plan vs plan. I haven't had much sleep, b/c "plan" means nothing to me anymore...same thing happened when I posted "hundreds" on WallE's thread...hundreds, funny word...yeah, when I am tired I get loooooopy.

Judy from Boise
01-03-2010, 07:04 PM
Hey Molly, I just noticed the link in your signature, and followed it here!

I just read the first two pages, and have one tip.
There is very little jet lag flying west to east. We usually get flight that have us landing in Orlando about 10:30 pm. It is great timing to get to the resort, check in, unpack, and go to bed. The key for us is planning our itinerary around extra magic hours in the pm, so we sleep in as late as we want.It is easy to stay up late (working with the time change) so why force early starts.I set up my itenerary by which park has PM magic hours. Then I pick a sit down restaurant in the park and try to get first dinner seating. That way we fuel up, make sure we see the evening show offerings in each park, and maximize our enjoyment as the crowds thin, the temps cool, and dark bring the most magical of times.
Then, I back into what park to go to in the am based on who isn't having EE am hours.
By the end of our trip I schedule one am EE into MK, because by then it is not a hardship.

bumbershoot
01-03-2010, 10:32 PM
Thanks, Judy! Good info.

I think I'm going from how I always felt when I flew out to Miami or VA when my mom/stepdad lived there, on breaks from college. I'd stay up even later than normal, I mean, 4 or 5am, then sleep until literally after noon. I am still that lazy, when allowed, and still a nightowl, so I worry that I'll be dragging.

But now it all might be different, no Vero, b/c now it might be that cousin and her 2 kids join us for quite a bit of the vacay, with her hubby popping in and out. This is how I feel about this! Both :woohoo::yay::cheer2: AND :scared::eek:

I told my aunt (cousin and fam are driving home from her husband's relatives' home in the NE today) that with that in mind, we'd need to get OKW, most likely. With *maybe* a couple/few nights at BLT. Maybe.

So we'll see! Right now I'm valuing and prepping a bunch of CDs to sell at abundatrade and secondspin dot coms, to help out the car payoff-slash-trip savings. :)

DLR29
01-03-2010, 11:23 PM
Just read through the first 6 pages. How exciting! BLT look so amazingly nice, I hope you get to stay there at least a little during your stay. Oh, and CONGRATS on being a new DVC member. That must be very exciting that you will have lots and lots more Disney vacations in the future.

As for Universal, I would so love to go there, but it's just a little too expensive to do that AND WDW. And if we're gonna be in FL we just have to go to WDW. So I hope you get to go for a bit and give us a full report.

QueenDoOver
01-04-2010, 03:07 PM
Well hello Molly! I knew you had this trip in the works, but I guess I didn't realize how soon it will be. Looks like things are shaping up slowly but surely! I am excited to read along because I am happy to report, our next trip to Disney as a famiy will be to the world. I plan on reading and learning from your experience, so thanks for doing the work!

Speaking of work, guess I better get to it!

bumbershoot
01-04-2010, 06:33 PM
Just read through the first 6 pages. How exciting! BLT look so amazingly nice, I hope you get to stay there at least a little during your stay. Oh, and CONGRATS on being a new DVC member. That must be very exciting that you will have lots and lots more Disney vacations in the future.

As for Universal, I would so love to go there, but it's just a little too expensive to do that AND WDW. And if we're gonna be in FL we just have to go to WDW. So I hope you get to go for a bit and give us a full report.

Hello and welcome! Oh the Universal stuff is really starting to freak me out. I'm having to remind myself over and over that these places will be there for years to come, and I do NOT have to do absolutely everything during this one trip.

But we do certainly want to see the Wizarding World of Harry Potter. Little floop in those plans, though; according to my aunt, my cousin and her husband feel their kids are too young for any HP, including the Universal area. Since their son is almost 2 years older than ours...this might be problematic! Might have to do Universal alone, and at the end of the trip, so DS doesn't talk about it to their son, to keep peace and difficult conversations (which will already be underlying, going in December, them being heavy duty Christmas-believers, and with us celebrating Yule and all that).


Well hello Molly! I knew you had this trip in the works, but I guess I didn't realize how soon it will be. Looks like things are shaping up slowly but surely! I am excited to read along because I am happy to report, our next trip to Disney as a famiy will be to the world. I plan on reading and learning from your experience, so thanks for doing the work!

Speaking of work, guess I better get to it!

I didn't realize how relatively soon it was either! I've GOT to get on the phone to my cousin (letting her call me once they are home and rested from last minute PA trip) to find out what weekend they'd like to play at BLT, b/c the booking window is upon me!

Yay that you guys are going to Orlando!!!

Bummed we didn't get to go to the north-end disney warehouse, but I hear it's in Auburn, or about to be? Maybe I'll actually be able to get to that one.

QueenDoOver
01-07-2010, 01:36 AM
Well, my husband did say that maybe we would just go to DW for Xmas next year, and I was thinking not until 2011. It would be funny if we were there together again!

I did stop by Northgate one evening. Got just a few things but my favorite was a Walt and Mickey Pin, that is meant to be a like a picture on an easel, and is a jumbo and was done to celebrate the 50th. It was really cool and only $8.00.

Burlington is closing this Sunday and I am tempted to run up there. They had pin sets for like $3.00, which is a pretty good deal. I should have bought them when I saw them, right? Oh well!

I know before you became owners, you had looked into renting DVC points. How does that compare to just staying onsite at the resorts? I am trying to decide which route to go.

bumbershoot
01-07-2010, 09:03 PM
That would be fun!

First step to renting is to read all the sticky threads here (http://www.disboards.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=30&f=29). That's what I spent a lot of time doing when we first thought of renting!


There are a few perks you probably wouldn't get...free wireless internet, pool-hopping (though honestly that's so restricted anyway even for owners)...those are what come to mind. And the things you need the membership card for, of course, like discounts, but I'm sure you knew that one! :)

Other than that, you get all the benefits of staying at those resorts and no downside. You still get to take Magical Express, you can even sign up for the Dining Plan (though not the platinum or premium plans...those require a normal package plan...but I have a feeling you'd be as likely to do those plans as we would be!)!

The only drawback is that you can't talk to Member Services yourself, so you need to trust the person you're renting from. They will have to add the dining plan to your reservation (and it has to be done before 2 days before your reservation), though you'll be paying the cost as you check in. I'm not sure who signs you up for ME.

It seems that $10 per point is the average/mean/median (one of those...I can never remember which means which!) of the cost.

So just playing around, let's say you wanted 1 week at the Villas at the Animal Kingdom. Let's say, a 1 bedroom, first two weeks of December '10.

So 2010 points for that...a week's stay is 144 points during that time. Multiply by 10, you've got that room for 1440. Sweet, eh? Now that's for the lowest rung view, but at least it's a start.

Or Wilderness Lodge villas, that's 206 points per week.

Old Key West is 159 points for the week in a 1 bedroom, and I've read that they generally have the largest rooms.

(and I did NOT realize that AKV came in under OKW...zoiks!)



Now if you wanted to stay at All Star, say, Music (and my cousin LOVES that place!), your total might come in well under those costs. But if you were thinking of Wilderness Lodge anyway, and your hotel costs were going higher...it's worth thinking about!

bumbershoot
01-07-2010, 09:15 PM
Oh, and you sign up for the Dining Plan withOUT having to do a package. So you can buy your tickets from undercovertourist, or wherever you want, and yet still get the plan. If you want it.

QueenDoOver
01-08-2010, 11:11 AM
hmm...something to think about for sure. Not sure if I would want the dining plan. I think it would cause me to be way to rigid in my planning, require park hopping, and make me eat too much. I feel really happy to know my families touring preferences so well from our DL trips, and being able to apply that here. DW scares me, so am trying not to go commando, kwim?

Also, we have that middle schooler, who will be a high school student then, and we can't miss school. So...high season Christmas time for us! Dang kids!

I am seriously thinking of using the rental house that Marie used for their trip. It actually sleeps 8 and is about $1500 for two weeks. So if we had friends that also wanted to go it would be perfect! It is 10 minutes drive, and we will be planning a long trip so I don't mind loosing time with driving in. Plus, my family would enjoy the downtime.

Here is the link if you want to check it out, although of course it would be of little interest to you, owning DVC and all:)
http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p219739#rates-bar

bumbershoot
01-08-2010, 03:41 PM
Those vacation homes look SO awesome. Only thing to make sure you budget for is the parking each day; of course, with what you're saving on the rental, that's a drop in the bucket!

Or you could look at the cost of upgrading someone to an AP, b/c I think you get free parking with an AP...then you could buy the Tables in Wonderland card, and get discounts on some meals....

It is indeed nice to know one's family's touring style! And like you, knowing what works and doesn't (mainly, what has NOT worked for us) is what is setting us up for such a LONG trip. The guys really need that downtime, but I still haven't allowed for enough of it. I mean, we didn't even dip a toe in the pool at the Grand on my b'day trip, and that's a crying shame!

The one wild card for us is going to be food, b/c even though we have a hard time feeling hungry, and then when hungry have a hard time actually stopping for food (to everyone's detriment), at Disneyland...we wonder how it will be different at WDW. So much bigger, so much more to do, etc etc.

bumbershoot
01-08-2010, 06:55 PM
Just gotta say I love my avatar/signature combination. It's so calm and, IMO, pretty.

Robert's home sick today. (he was sick when he got back from his trip, then got better, then I got sick, now I'm just about better, and he goes and has a relapse) I've been telling him to go lie down and take a nap, b/c it drives me nuts when he falls to sleep on the couch. It's our only living room sitting place, and it's just annoying. And now, at almost 4pm, he's finally doing it. :headache:

QueenDoOver
01-09-2010, 01:40 AM
Just gotta say I love my avatar/signature combination. It's so calm and, IMO, pretty.

Robert's home sick today. (he was sick when he got back from his trip, then got better, then I got sick, now I'm just about better, and he goes and has a relapse) I've been telling him to go lie down and take a nap, b/c it drives me nuts when he falls to sleep on the couch. It's our only living room sitting place, and it's just annoying. And now, at almost 4pm, he's finally doing it. :headache:

Ha Ha! I hate sick people on my couch. I hope that Robert feels better soon. My big one has been complaining of headache etc. I've had snuffy's and cough. Is Spring almost here??

kaoden39
01-09-2010, 01:45 AM
I have always thought that your avatar was relaxing, I like that sort of thing.

Sherry E
01-09-2010, 12:24 PM
Woo hoo! I made it here too! I followed the link! I am subscribed!! (I always feel like a stranger in a strange land over on this side of the boards!:rotfl2:) Molly, I see that QueenDoOver showed you the pictures of the vacation home that Mariezp used on her very recent WDW holiday trip, but I don't know if you have actually been following along with Marie's trip and TR. In case you haven't, she is a DLR vet who just visited WDW for the first time in December, and she always has a comedic take on things too, so I told her I would try to get you over on her TR if you have not already been there:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2362766

And yes! I like the signature/avatar combo as well!! Nice complementary color scheme!

Silly Little Pixie
01-09-2010, 01:33 PM
It is indeed nice to know one's family's touring style! And like you, knowing what works and doesn't (mainly, what has NOT worked for us) is what is setting us up for such a LONG trip. The guys really need that downtime, but I still haven't allowed for enough of it. I mean, we didn't even dip a toe in the pool at the Grand on my b'day trip, and that's a crying shame!

The one wild card for us is going to be food, b/c even though we have a hard time feeling hungry, and then when hungry have a hard time actually stopping for food (to everyone's detriment), at Disneyland...we wonder how it will be different at WDW. So much bigger, so much more to do, etc etc.

I, myself, tend to enjoy commando touring. On our previous trips to WDW, we were go-go-go all the time. We packed a LOT into maybe 4 park days and one resort day/waterpark day. But when we bought DVC last spring, DH insisted that now we could actually SLOW DOWN. He wants and needs downtime, and probably DS as well...although at 9 now, he is a trooper. SO, on our November trip this year, we split up when necessary, or the kids and I would go back out to another park after dinner, etc. I did find the kids wanted more time at the resort- LOVED the pool- and we only did one of the activities at Kidani. There were so many! So on the agenda for this November is more resort time, for sure!! I don't think my DH expected to love Kidani as much as he did. He agreed to DVC because I really wanted it, we were going a lot, and he loves DCL so the thought of being able to use points for cruises was very appealing. He liked it far more than the hotel rooms, even onsite rooms. It really was almost like being home.

If you read the WDW boards a lot you will start to feel overwhelmed at all there is to do, at how packed the days are for people, how obsessed they are over the "best" ADRs, etc. If you know what works for your family at Disneyland, plan that way for WDW as well. Epcot is our favorite "grown up park" because it lends itself to a more relaxed pace. Our DS doesn't like it nearly as much (World Showcase, anyway), but tough for him. We remind him that we sit through Dinosaur 3x in a row, Dinoland exploraton dig, etc. Everybody gets their favorites!

Food- perhaps plan just one sit-down meal a day (lunch or breakfast) so then you don't have to wait as long to eat. You'll be less apt to get a snack at 3:30 when you have a 5 pm ADR, but then you just end up with crankiness. Then you could eat your evening meal (or series of small meals) whenever hunger strikes you, and you pass by something tasty. Just a thought.

Has Ethan started to look at WDW parks and things he might like to see?

Christine

Sherry E
01-09-2010, 02:12 PM
Okay, I just got more or less caught up on this Pre-Pre-TR. Are you still contemplating being at WDW on December 25? I think that sounds like a great idea, perhaps because your family does not celebrate Christmas. It would be a way to sort of be doing 'something' on that day (and not succumbing to - what did you call it? - "weird family" status:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:) but not in the traditional family Christmas sense, you know what I mean? In other words, it would be more about celebrating Disney on Christmas day than about celebrating Christmas at WDW. (I have friends who were just at WDW over the New Year holiday, and I still haven't heard back from them on how that was and if it is comparable to the nightmare that is DLR on NYE!!)

Right now, your WDW plan seems a long ways away since 2010 just began, but judging by how quickly the time seemed to pass from when Mariezp first established she was heading to WDW last year to when her trip actually happened, I bet we will soon all be sitting here saying, "Wow! I can't believe you are already home from WDW! It seems like only yesterday when you were writing your Pre-Pre-Pre TR!!"

I have always been "the planner" for trips in the past - whether they be DLR trips or wherever - but as I get older and less patient, I find that I get frustrated with planning and my brain locks up at a certain point, and then I have to take a break from it and revisit it later. So, as much as I would love to do a WDW holiday trip at some point (I would rather go during the holidays than any other time), I can see I would be easily and quickly overwhelmed by planning that and would probably get aggravated...not to mention exhausted by the sheer enormity of it all once I was actually there. And the thing is, much of it HAS to be planned. You can't 'wing it' in the same exact way you could wing it at DLR to a large degree.

And I can see I would end up doing something like what Marie did on her WDW trip - I would arrange to meet my group at the Market House on Main Street....only to discover when it came time to meet that there IS no Market House on Main Street!!:rotfl2: I think I have DLR and its layout, shops, restaurants, etc. so embedded in my brain that I would end up saying, "Let's go to Carnation Cafe for dinner," and there IS no Carnation! No Goofy's Kitchen. No Storytellers... It really is de-programming in a way, and then totally re-training one's mind to think/plan on a much larger scale for WDW.

bumbershoot
01-10-2010, 01:06 AM
Ha Ha! I hate sick people on my couch. I hope that Robert feels better soon. My big one has been complaining of headache etc. I've had snuffy's and cough. Is Spring almost here??

He does feel better. I think you know he's been taking a drug for the prolactinoma, and it has the ability to knock him out. At the same time, and this is just so crazy b/c we are both so natural-minded, he's taking shots to help out what the prolactin (his body has been making) has done to his more manly hormones.

So anyway, on this recent far-east trip, he had to do one shot early, on the same day he took the cabergoline (pituitary tumor drug), which was almost a day later than he is supposed to take it (it's a once a week thing, it builds on itself or something like that, he needs to take it same day each week). Then he missed two other shots b/c he didn't want to deal with taking it on the plane, and then we absolutely and totally forgot about the cabergoline on Thursday when he got home (NYE) and it was 3/4 through Friday when we remembered!

So this week, when he took it on Thursday, it messed him up BAD. He was passing out an hour after he took it, and that hasn't happened in months. Then he's got the hormone precursor shots and those seem to give him energy, and it just battles it out. So that battle along with whatever cold he brought back...it just knocked him out.

Poor guy!

The GOOD news is that his knee MRI that he had recently shows NO tear of anything. He just has a bone bruise, which was probably from a fall he took on the icy sidewalk about 1.5 months ago. Several knee-related things happened all at the same time, and the symptoms matched "banging your knee up good," "MCL tear", and "meniscus tear". :headache: Glad it's not the one involving surgery!

He cannot wait for a baby to happen (I know, funny way to put it) so he can think of slowing the HCG (slowing because it's expensive even with insurance help, but not stopping because it's actually to help fix a problem in his body), for a followup MRI on his noggin to show that the prolactinoma is gone, and for his knee to heal! Let's hope it goes in that basic order, though we can switch around knee and prolactinoma if we really have to do so. :upsidedow

I have always thought that your avatar was relaxing, I like that sort of thing.

yay.

...we only did one of the activities at Kidani. There were so many!

Has Ethan started to look at WDW parks and things he might like to see?

Christine

Now see, you've just made me want to stay at Kidani again! I have GOT to talk to my cousin!

Now that's impressive. E is *almost* Ethan (he's Eamon), but the cousin's son is indeed Ethan! Very nice!

The one thing he mentioned about WDW is "do they have Star Wars ride at disneyworld?" AUGH. ME: "Yes they do, but it's not going to be open during our visit, while the add the new stories...and no, we can't go to disneyland quickly before the trip, because 'land's version will be closed at the same time." Disappointing answer, I have to tell you!

We have the newest planning DVD; we'll have to watch it soon, making sure that he is reminded that ST won't be open.

And the kid is growing so quickly! He's been in growth mode for months now. Not as tall as Tracey's Nathan, but still, tall! Which is slightly sad, because it would be so great to run down for Indiana Jones...but we just cannot do that... Could celebrate with Dinosaur which everyone says is the "same" ride as Indy, but Dinosaur actually has a lower height requirement.

Guess we have to celebrate his height changes without Disney's help, LOL.

Are you still contemplating being at WDW on December 25? I think that sounds like a great idea, perhaps because your family does not celebrate Christmas. It would be a way to sort of be doing 'something' on that day (and not succumbing to - what did you call it? - "weird family" status:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:) but not in the traditional family Christmas sense, you know what I mean? In other words, it would be more about celebrating Disney on Christmas day than about celebrating Christmas at WDW.

And I can see I would end up doing something like what Marie did on her WDW trip - I would arrange to meet my group at the Market House on Main Street....only to discover when it came time to meet that there IS no Market House on Main Street!!:rotfl2:


I :lovestruc how you put that (the bold in the quote)! I might use it somewhere in some way. Report title, report URL link, something. I love it.

Not sure on any of it! My cousin must call soon.

Robert said today that he feels like this is the beginning of what will become a baaaaad "we went with family" trip report. I pooh-poohed him on that (nicely), but secretly I'm wondering if that's what it's going to become. But I must think positively! My cousin is a nice person, and having her there to temper her mother will be great. I find myself in the strange situation of my aunt being my surrogate mother, but she is VERY different in many deep ways from my mom, and I forget that sometimes (like when I invited her to come out during the time I figured I would be having Eamon...she got all involved with the drama being unfolded by my hired help, and helped cause Very Bad (and unnecessary) Things to happen to me and le bebe known now as Eamon). But anyway, we'll have my cousin there and that should be OK.

IF only we could figure out when the cousin will want to be there.



On the other hand, we could just work it out in the way it works for us and either say "tough noogies" or change the plan when we hear from them!


One of the two. :)



Off to go read marie's report, b/c that's a great story about Main Street. :)

bumbershoot
01-11-2010, 07:20 PM
I think I'm focusing so much on info I want from my cousin b/c I'm completely afraid of what comes after that! Deciding where to eat, when to eat there, what parks to go to, etc etc.

And again the refrain of "this isn't our ONLY trip we'll take there" has to come up in my head. But deep down there's this baby voice saying "but I WANNA do it all on this first trip!!!!" Shh, little voice, it's OK, don't worry.

I can't be the only one who has these conversations...right?

kaoden39
01-11-2010, 08:58 PM
Oh I understand. I am gonna have to figure out places that are friendly to my daughter who has chosen to be a vegetarian, and her siblings that go back and forth on it. Of course ours is for Disneyland. But, that comes after ironing out all of the other plans.

Sherry E
01-12-2010, 01:50 PM
Good - I am glad you like the quote (about celebrating Disney on Christmas Day rather than celebrating Christmas at WDW)! Use it somewhere, in something!!

I think it is good to try to cover as many bases on this trip to WDW as possible, not just because you want to see and do certain things but also because life takes many twists and turns, and that "this isn't our ONLY trip we'll take there" idea may not come to fruition when it is expected to. You just never know. I have done that before, where I think, 'Oh, I will get back to [fill in the blank] next year and can do [fill in the blank] then,' and for whatever reason, life happens and I don't get back to [fill in the blank] when I thought I would. In fact, along those lines, my very pregnant friend just squeezed in a holiday visit to WDW so that her 6-year-old son would get to have another Disney trip of some kind before they have to hunker down with the new baby for a few years (they won't take the new child to WDW or to DLR until he is at least 4 years old, I think). So I think if I am ever lucky enough to go to WD, I will try to get as much as physically possible done just in case I didn't get back there for years.

bumbershoot
01-12-2010, 09:25 PM
Oh I understand. I am gonna have to figure out places that are friendly to my daughter who has chosen to be a vegetarian, and her siblings that go back and forth on it. Of course ours is for Disneyland. But, that comes after ironing out all of the other plans.

Show her allears menus...it's pretty simple to figure out, b/c they don't hide meat or byproducts.



Robert suddenly decided to track his eating and working out! He's now a member of sparkpeople, and is paying attention to everything. I feel both: :banana: and :eek: with a little bit of :rolleyes1, not because I'm rolling my eyes, but because now I'm sort of looking to the side, whistling, like "oh this doesn't mean I have to hunker down and get serious about it, or anything, right?????" :)

E had his first Homeschool PE hour today at the Y. They played basketball! And E's gymnastics teacher (not this session, it seems, because they are full) is part of it; he actually helped start the program because he was homeschooled because of his competitive gymnastics. We adore him. :)

It was fun to meet all these other homeschooling women...but I will admit to some silent tears during it, because I was the only one there with ONLY one child. One woman had 11 total. Another had 8, most of whom were there. And I have...one. Still. I kept wanting to hold this little baby...on my wedding day I danced with a little baby for an hour it seemed, and we called her our baby mojo...but I just met this lady and figured she'd think I was weird. He was a cutiepie little baby, too!

bumbershoot
01-12-2010, 09:44 PM
Oh gawd, that was another waaaaah post. It gets old for me, too! :rotfl:

Brady's Mom
01-13-2010, 12:15 PM
:lmao:

I just had to laugh - even though I have had 4 babies and have loved every minute of them - I still miss the babies!! Especially during my BIG spaces. My baby is now 5 or 21 if you want to look at it the other way and when I see the cutiepie babies I just want to squeeze them. There is nothing in the world like babies! :thumbsup2 That mommy might have appreciated you holding her baby instead of thinking you were some sort of weirdo. :confused3

Yay for homeschooling activities. I don't homeschool now - I have before, but find that Charter School works for me now - but when I did I loved the extra enrichment sort of activities that were available in my area for my boys. It made it really fun and helped us get out of the house.

kaoden39
01-13-2010, 11:22 PM
Hey Molly there is thread of people that are Disney World regulars that we carry on a regular chat, how I ended up there I can't even remember. I have chatted with this group of ladies since 2007. They are full of wonderful advice and information about Disney World and all around great people if you are interested in visiting. Here is the link if you are interested. Anyone that wants to join a group of chatty folk here is the link. http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=35000507#post35000507

bumbershoot
01-13-2010, 11:30 PM
I now wear glasses again (though was humiliated to find out that I had only gotten to 20/30, LOL, thought I was going blind!...but the astigmatism is what is causing most of my vision floopiness) and look stinkin' adorable! Had forgotten how cute I look in them. :goodvibes

Got a new phone today; time for 2 year upgrade, and now have an LG Neon. Yay!

And also used my "allowance" with a coupon to get a second purse in the same style that I got at xmas, but instead of brown, I now have a green one! I love this style (Rosetti mini shopper from JC Penney, manmade not leather). :)


Had a good day.

OH, and we stopped at Toys R Us to get my last purchase (what the gift from my brother/SIL to Eamon got him) put onto my TRU rewards account. I messed up at the register then the employees messed up at the service desk, and long story short, THEY have to do it (we aren't allowed to do it anymore online). So while she was fighting with the computer, she also, totally surprisingly, refunded about $15 b/c of price changes from when we bought it all!

So again, a good day. And I worked out yesterday after the homeschool PE program, and today I could feel a difference in the neck/lower jaw area. WOOOOOOO!

bumbershoot
01-13-2010, 11:58 PM
Everything has been so on hold b/c we don't know about Bay Lake, and it's driving me bonkers.

Robert has decided that I have greatly offended my cousin, and that she is fuming at me. Thanks, hubster! No worries, I'm not taking him seriously...he thought the same thing about how I behaved to my stepdad's new wife, that I was meeting shortly before my own wedding, when all I was was nervous as heck! But I was polite and kind and courteous, and had conversations with her and everything... Robert just saw that weirdly, and I think he's wrong on this one too.

But I think I'm going to start thinking about "what to do in each park". Perhaps give myself 2 days in each park, with things to do on each day. Places to see, rides to go on, places and things to eat. That kind of thing.

That'll give me a good start, don't you think?

So look for that tomorrow. :goodvibes After E's homeschool PE, that is...maybe I'll have a chance to hold that scrumptious little baby!



Oh, and I did have a big-heart moment last night that helped me be more OK with the current situation. E had one of his nasty leg aches in the middle of the night, though R and I were still awake, finishing up a British miniseries we have on DVD. Figured out that E's shoes are probably getting too small, b/c he ran laps before basketball, then had an hour class, and ended up with the leg ache, poor baby! So he came out, crying, from the room, and kept on crying and crying. If we had a baby in the house, I couldn't have worked my magic with the kidlet (he believes that Robert has Korean magic and I have Irish magic, but HE has Irish/Korean magic which is the best of all!) and would have had to worry about him waking a baby, etc etc etc. I was glad to be able to focus on him and him alone. So that was nice. :lovestruc

kaoden39
01-14-2010, 12:02 AM
Poor guy, Loren used to have growing pains and wake up with leg pains. And there is just nothing you can do but comfort them. And I am glad you were able to be there for him.

bumbershoot
01-14-2010, 03:23 PM
Thankfully, and oh how I wish my mom had known about it then, we've found that arnica cream helps tremendously. I found this brand called, oh gosh I always forget...something like Salmon Creek Therapeutics, and it smells yummy and helps a whole lot. When I was a kid getting horrible leg aches (still get them sometimes) *nothing* helped until I was old enough to take this crazy OTC (actually now it's behind the counter, but still non-prescription) stuff called percogesic. That helped, but also messed me up. So I really wish arnica cream had been in my mom's cabinet.

But he's generally in such pain right from his initial wake-up that he has a hard time telling us where, exactly, it hurts. There have been times where he just needs to pee, really badly, so putting arnica on his knees isn't much of a help! After that need is taken care of, if there's still crying, it takes a few minutes to get him to point to where it hurts.

Crazy followup: he didn't even remember the leg ache when he woke up! Usually he remembers, but not yesterday! Today is basketball with the homeschool group again...I hope he doesn't have the same problem. But if he does, well, next week is gymnastics so he'll get a break.


And speaking of all that, I gotta get us ready!

kaoden39
01-14-2010, 04:23 PM
Loren still has them and it looks like I need to get some arnica. I feel so bad for him when it happens.

Silly Little Pixie
01-14-2010, 11:10 PM
Where do you get the arnica cream? Can I find it at Walgreens and the like? It sounds wonderful and my DS still gets leg aches some nights. It was so common when he was younger, an I'd love an ointment that would help him.

Sorry about *Ethan* when it should be Eamon! My nephew is Ethan so I just had that on the brain.

DLR29
01-15-2010, 12:54 AM
Everything has been so on hold b/c we don't know about Bay Lake, and it's driving me bonkers.

Robert has decided that I have greatly offended my cousin, and that she is fuming at me. Thanks, hubster! No worries, I'm not taking him seriously...he thought the same thing about how I behaved to my stepdad's new wife, that I was meeting shortly before my own wedding, when all I was was nervous as heck! But I was polite and kind and courteous, and had conversations with her and everything... Robert just saw that weirdly, and I think he's wrong on this one too.

But I think I'm going to start thinking about "what to do in each park". Perhaps give myself 2 days in each park, with things to do on each day. Places to see, rides to go on, places and things to eat. That kind of thing.

That'll give me a good start, don't you think?

So look for that tomorrow. :goodvibes After E's homeschool PE, that is...maybe I'll have a chance to hold that scrumptious little baby!



Oh, and I did have a big-heart moment last night that helped me be more OK with the current situation. E had one of his nasty leg aches in the middle of the night, though R and I were still awake, finishing up a British miniseries we have on DVD. Figured out that E's shoes are probably getting too small, b/c he ran laps before basketball, then had an hour class, and ended up with the leg ache, poor baby! So he came out, crying, from the room, and kept on crying and crying. If we had a baby in the house, I couldn't have worked my magic with the kidlet (he believes that Robert has Korean magic and I have Irish magic, but HE has Irish/Korean magic which is the best of all!) and would have had to worry about him waking a baby, etc etc etc. I was glad to be able to focus on him and him alone. So that was nice. :lovestruc

I'm thinking of this too! When I'm bored in class, I'll just whip out a piece of paper and create schedules for WDW! :rotfl: Ah, being a high school senior rocks!

Anyway, are you getting park hoppers? I highly recommend them. When we were there last time we went early to a park at rope drop, went back to our condo for a nap/lunch, and then returned to a different park for the evening. It worked great, especially to beat the crowds. I also recommend taking a whole day off because a long trip like WDW gets tiring. That's our plan for our upcoming trip. We can plan together! :yay:

bumbershoot
01-15-2010, 04:39 PM
Arnica...you can get the Boiron brand stuff, it's more of a gel. We used that for quite awhile, and it's decent. If you have places like Fred Meyer grocery store, or if your local groceries are a bit more "liberal" in what they stock in a natural products section, it should be there. Otherwise, a health food store is going to be the go-to place.

But this (http://www.salmoncreekbotanicals.com/catlist.lasso?cat=Arnica%2520Lotion) is what we actually use now. A tiny dab goes quite a far way, FYI. One of the 4oz bottles generally lasts a year, and it's our go-to method of helping pain go away.

We found it at a farmer's market back in '07. We were moving to an apartment near the market, and Robert especially was so sore! We walked past their booth, and since we'd used arnica before (both as a cream and homeopathic pellet) we were drawn to it. They had a sample bottle, so I squeezed some out and put it on one of Robert's calves. By the time we had reached the end of the booth to continue on in the market, the pain in that calf had gone away. We walked right back and bought some!

Last year I ordered a bottle to be sent to my stepdad, who was about to undergo his second hip replacement. He had a lot of muscle soreness surrounding the incision area with the first hip, and he said that the arnica cream (put around the incision, once it started to heal up, NOT on the wound itself of course!) really helped with the soreness for the second hip.



Oh to be a HS senior again....actually, I wouldn't enjoy it if I had to do it the same way again. But it sounds like you have much more fun than I did! Maybe if my family had been going to Disneyland often I would have had more fun! But for some reason, San Jose to Anaheim seemed like a million miles to me then....



Eamon did not have a leg ache last night! Woo! Might have helped that they only had the "under 7s" run two laps, instead of 3. 3 might have been a bit much, considering the size of the track! He had SO much fun, and it's so neat to watch 30 or so kids from 5 to 17 having so much fun! They do split them up...under 7 and over 7.


Must go start a laundry load, then I'll start thinking of parks! If anyone reads and responds before then, you guys can choose which park I will start with. :)

IBLarsen
01-15-2010, 05:28 PM
Hey Molly, I have seen your name on the DLR side of the boards as well, you have actually helped me several times! We (my family and I) have only just gone to DLR for the past two years in a row for the first time ever, and we are officially disney addicts now. We are contemplating a trip to WDW (1st time) for our next Disney trip this fall. Actually still thinking of the best time frame. Hoping they will offer the same kind of deals they did last fall. We really want to go at Christmas time, but want to avoid the crowds, so we thought we could do beginning of December, but I feel like if we pull the kids out of school (they will be in kinder and 2nd grade by then), that will make them miss a lot of school all in a short amount of time. Between them having a week off at Thanksgiving, then two weeks off at Christmas time, there is only 3 weeks of school in between. If we pull them out for 1 of those weeks to avoid the crowds then they are going to school for 2 weeks out of 6 weeks. So then I thought we would do end of October, they have no scheduled time off between the beginning of school and Thanksgiving really. AGH...what to do?! Anyways, I'm terrified of the thought of WDW...it seems so very overwhelming, which is why I have now begun to look over here, and it's oddly comforting to see familiar names from the DL side over here to plan along with!:goodvibes It's interesting to follow other peoples thought process, it's gets me thinking of other things I would not think about! Clearly my biggest dilemma right now is what time of year to go....I'm hoping reading the boards will give me some inspiration!

Also, one thought on your situation of wanting to rent a car to do other things. Our first trip to DLR 2 years ago, we flew into SNA and rented a car the same day and drove to the central coast (San Luis Obispo) to visit a cousin and do the beach thing, we spent 3 days there and then drove back to DLR and spent 4 days and then we were already back to the airport we needed to be at. That worked out well for us.

Can't wait to hear more details of your trip planning!
~Brianna

bumbershoot
01-15-2010, 07:06 PM
Welcome, Brianna!

WDW scares me too. We don't have any school constraints since we homeschool, and now that DH isn't in customer service anymore we don't have to avoid holidays, but my cousin's son is in school, so we're impacted! It can't be easy to figure out; I wish you lots of luck in working it out! I think the first place to start would be finding out the school's thought-process on taking kids out for vacation!

For us, we just want to minimize our chances of broiling, and we have to have the money to go. And we have to go during our 2010 DVC use year, which means before Feb '11. And I want to see the xmastime lights, so that means Nov/Dec '10. Kinda narrowed it down!

bumbershoot
01-15-2010, 11:27 PM
Ahhhhh.

Did some laundry, folded some (bit my own finger somehow while working on a fitted sheet), and then Robert took Eamon off to Home Depot, to help a carless friend find something there.

And then I found a bill marked with the where'sgeorge mark, and got to enter it in. That's a website where, for fun, you can track paper money that comes into your hands and then you spend.

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Epcot is mentioned above. I'm going to try to not type that too often, b/c It comes out very strangely when I don't correct all errors. eptock, etpock, and so on. I'm a relatively good typist, except for that word! And, though of course there's no way for you to know this, except for when typing *about* Epcot! Weird.


I saw some posts on the Theme Parks forum about the Kim Possible adventure, and noticed that our Diser bradk had a page dedicated to it here (http://www.stitchkingdom.com/kimpossible/).

There's a blip about it on the latest planning DVD, and E really likes watching it (almost as much as he likes watching the preteens (I refuse to use "tweens") roam around the park in the kids section of the DVD.

Here is what I have learned from stitchkingdom:

"The Kim Possible World Showcase Adventure is a new technology-based interactive in-park game at Epcot's World Showcase. Guests enlist with Team Possible and are dispatched to a country within the World Showcase where Disney Channel's Kim Possible and Ron Stoppable need their assistance to thwart the evil plans of a super-villain and save the world. No big."

"There are no age minimums or maximums".

You first sign up at one of "three recruitment centers: one in either Innoventions building as well as one in the World Showcase plaza area between Future World and World Showcase," or if you're there after 11am there are "three additional field stations: One right on the border of Norway on the Mexico side, one right past Italy on the American Adventure side and one next to the United Kingdom pavilion on the International Gateway side."

You sign up, get a FP type of ticket, and then later, at the time stated on the ticket, you go where it tells you to go to pick up the "Kimmunicator" and then start the mission.

This is interesting. All but 4 countries have missions. With the question about what about those other countries, the site states "Definitely not for Morocco. Although it's a prime candidate for the game, Morocco is the only pavilion to be government sponsored and the King of Morocco has explicitly said no to the project because of the installation of the electronics required to support it."

I had no idea that the actual king has a say! Wow!


It sounds like so much fun. :goodvibes

teacherlisa1978
01-16-2010, 05:53 PM
Ahhhhh.



Epcot is mentioned above. I'm going to try to not type that too often, b/c It comes out very strangely when I don't correct all errors. eptock, etpock, and so on. I'm a relatively good typist, except for that word! And, though of course there's no way for you to know this, except for when typing *about* Epcot! Weird.


I saw some posts on the Theme Parks forum about the Kim Possible adventure, and noticed that our Diser bradk had a page dedicated to it here (http://www.stitchkingdom.com/kimpossible/).

There's a blip about it on the latest planning DVD, and E really likes watching it (almost as much as he likes watching the preteens (I refuse to use "tweens") roam around the park in the kids section of the DVD.

Here is what I have learned from stitchkingdom:

"The Kim Possible World Showcase Adventure is a new technology-based interactive in-park game at Epcot's World Showcase. Guests enlist with Team Possible and are dispatched to a country within the World Showcase where Disney Channel's Kim Possible and Ron Stoppable need their assistance to thwart the evil plans of a super-villain and save the world. No big."

"There are no age minimums or maximums".

You first sign up at one of "three recruitment centers: one in either Innoventions building as well as one in the World Showcase plaza area between Future World and World Showcase," or if you're there after 11am there are "three additional field stations: One right on the border of Norway on the Mexico side, one right past Italy on the American Adventure side and one next to the United Kingdom pavilion on the International Gateway side."

You sign up, get a FP type of ticket, and then later, at the time stated on the ticket, you go where it tells you to go to pick up the "Kimmunicator" and then start the mission.

This is interesting. All but 4 countries have missions. With the question about what about those other countries, the site states "Definitely not for Morocco. Although it's a prime candidate for the game, Morocco is the only pavilion to be government sponsored and the King of Morocco has explicitly said no to the project because of the installation of the electronics required to support it."

I had no idea that the actual king has a say! Wow!


It sounds like so much fun. :goodvibes

Love, love, love Epcot! It wears me out completely-you think, 'I'm just going to stroll around World Showcase and enjoy all the little touches, stop for a latte or a rice cream in Norway along the way' (and this, that and the other, too...) and it will just wear you out, but I love every minute of it. I love the UK area-and the gardens in the Canada area. Everytime I go I decide that we simply must get to Victoria to see Butchart Gardens...it hasn't happened yet but I'm dying to go. Love Norway, too. For some reason that's the country I remember best from my visits when I was with my family, growing up. Glad they still have the rice creams-my favorite treat!

After getting back from Disneyland last month and my niece and I sitting on the couch Christmas morning talking about going to WDW all I want to do now is plan that trip. I've been jotting notes. :wizard: Can't wait to hear your Epcot plans.

ty&brenmom
01-16-2010, 06:56 PM
I love Epcot!!!! Our last trip we spent almost three full days there, and did not see/do everything. Kim Possible is so much fun, and my sons and I loved locating all the clues. We only did Mexico, because I dropped off the Kimcommunicator off in the box, instead of doing another mission. When we went to get another ticket for the missions there were no more available. We never got to try it again, to the disappointment of both my sons, almost a year later they still talk about the mission in Mexico and how they wanted to do it again.

bumbershoot
01-17-2010, 12:26 AM
It's good to know that people like Epcot! 3 days there? Wow! I'm not surprised you didn't do it all; I mean, how many times have we been to DLR since '05 (2005: 1 family day... 2006: 1 family day... 2007: 2 family trips... 2008: 1 solo 2-days, E's b'day, 1 solo day, 1 family trip...2009: 1 solo/divas trip, E's b'day, 1 day in DCA me and E, 2 day trip just me and E, 1 family trip for my b'day!), and I know we still haven't seen or done it all! :)


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Look further in the website I was looking at for Kim Possible...I'm reading all about Kidcot! What a fun thing that sounds like!!!!

I can totally picture...Molly gettin' a drinkie poo every few countries while the kidlet does crafts and gets stamps and finds out how to write his name (obviously, phonetically)...yay! Now what would Robert be doing, since he's not a kid and doesn't really drink? Hmm...babysitting us? :)

Ooh I like this (thanks to stitchkingdom!):

One of the most magical aspects of the World Showcase is that the Cast Members are citizens of their respective countries and are only in the United States for a short period of time, making them an excellent resource for learning about life abroad. You may want to make a game of this advantage by learning a bit about each country prior to visiting Walt Disney World or building your knowledge of foreign languages by asking the Cast Members to teach you simple phrases such as Hello, Goodbye and Thank You (or simply feel free to use them if you already know them).

Hmm. "An alternative to the free masks is the World Showcase Passport which is generally more suitable for older children." So is a 6 year old considered a little kid, or an older child? Hmm.

Looking at the map and info on wdwinfo (right here at le diz), I can't really see anything I wouldn't want to do or see. I can imagine skipping the American Adventure, seeing as how I live here and all, but if others insisted I wouldn't run screaming.

I haven't looked at the menus recently, but I would want to try either the Grey Goose Slushie or the Grand Marnier slushie. I'd also think of eating at Sunshine Seasons as it seems they have good veggie stuff! Depending on the menus as we get closer to the trip, I'd consider Coral Reef (they've had nummy sounding veggie things in the past), one of the Morocco places, and I've read there's a crepe place (Crepes des Chefs de France, or something like that?) and the Patisserie. Mmm, food....

I might need to go there 3+ days just to eat all I want!

Viking ship playground? Sounds good to me!

Wow, the shopping sounds like fun in China. I might have to make sure to check out my semi-local Uwajimaya before we go, to make sure I can't get something here for much cheaper!

Back to food...I recently read a trip report by someone who is usually vegan, sometimes vegetarian, and she had a good meal at the Biergarten. But her family isn't veggie as well...I wonder if it would be worth a visit, when all 3 of us are veggie?

Italian pastries, wines and Italian Margaritas? What, do tell, is an Italian margarita? Sounds intriguing.

Reading further about the American Adventure, that might be something better for later on, when E is older.

Gah. This is what wdwinfo says about France.

When you think of France, two things come to mind, wine and perfume.

Gag. I babysat these two adorable children. Their dad was from France, and used cologne in the traditional way...to mask the fact that he didn't like to bathe. Now don't get me wrong...if someone doesn't want to wear deodorant (and I'm totally in favor of ditching that scary antiperspirant, I mean, that's just not right, to not sweat!) that's fine...but don't cover it up, ya know?

Anyway....

Moving on, "the seamless blend of architecture that takes you from the streets of London to an English cottage"...that sounds cute. I'd rather it was set in Ireland, but I can't have everything. I'd rather they swap out Korea for China or Japan, too, and they haven't yet done that! Hasn't anyone contacted the Lotte corporation about that?

"the most photographed items in the World Showcase, replicas of UK phone booths. You can’t miss these bright red structures, nor will you be able to resist taking a picture of them."

Oh I bet I can. I'm the person who looks just one more place AFTER finding what I'm looking for, just so it wasn't in the "last place I looked"...I bet I can keep from taking a picture. Take THAT, wdwinfo! :rotfl:

Oh boy. I think I've found where Robert and Eamon will be hiding out: In “The Toy Soldier", medieval castle playsets, swords & shields, real feather quills...

Now that I'm looking at a menu, I might have to rethink the crepe place. 1, their menu doesn't sound that good, and 2, there's an awesome little crepe place in Seattle just across and up from Cheesecake Factor that sounds much much better! Yay, one less place to snarf in Epcot, meaning more calories available for other things.



Future World sounds like fun. If their Innoventions is/are like the one at Disneyland, I know Robert and Eamon will get lost in there (while I run and get another drinkie poo, perhaps).

There are two play fountains. One is near Test Track, the other is by the center walkway that connects the two sections of Epcot. The kids delight in "testing the water" not knowing if it's going to be a trickle or a deluge. It's a great way for them to cool off, but be sure that they're dressed appropriately or have a change of clothes as they can get saturated.

Anyone who has read my trip reports will know that I will definitely be prepared for the saturation of E's clothing!

The Behind the Seeds Tour sounds nice. And a fairly reasonable cost, too!

Oh, just found something I can probably skip (read as "definitely")...I just don't much like Turtle Talk! I know, it's heresy. But it just embarrasses me. Thankfully, my wee bairn can understand. But HE loves it. So Robert and Eamon can go visit Crush while I go off and...yeah, you get the picture. My prepretrip report self seems to be a massive LUSH!

(ooh, LUSH...I know there's a Basin in DTD...oohhhh...)

How claustrophobic is Mission: Space? Just looking at pictures taken in there make me catch my breath (I have to routinely look up at the bottom of the top of the water while on the Nemo subs, to give you an idea of my phobia, and you would never EVER catch me spelunking). Is it just the perspective of pictures in that small space? Or is it really as close as it appears?

The Universe of Energy is 45 minutes long? omg.

And that concludes tonight's reading and typing about Epcot.

kaoden39
01-17-2010, 12:38 AM
I love your new title Molly. I got a giggle from it.

DLR29
01-17-2010, 02:41 AM
How claustrophobic is Mission: Space? Just looking at pictures taken in there make me catch my breath (I have to routinely look up at the bottom of the top of the water while on the Nemo subs, to give you an idea of my phobia, and you would never EVER catch me spelunking). Is it just the perspective of pictures in that small space? Or is it really as close as it appears?

The Universe of Energy is 45 minutes long? omg.

And that concludes tonight's reading and typing about Epcot.[/B]

Yeah, Mission: Space is really a small, cramped space. I really liked it though. This upcoming trip, my brother is going to try it too! And Universe of Energy is really long, but I love Ellen, which makes that 45 min very entertaining. :rotfl:

bumbershoot
01-17-2010, 03:22 PM
Yeah, Mission: Space is really a small, cramped space. I really liked it though. This upcoming trip, my brother is going to try it too! And Universe of Energy is really long, but I love Ellen, which makes that 45 min very entertaining. :rotfl:

Oh gosh, you say it's a cramped space, and you're a rather thin guy from the pix you've shown us! Oh dear...

We generally really enjoy Ellen too...but wow 45 minutes...:3dglasses

QueenDoOver
01-17-2010, 03:44 PM
Hi Molly,
I love reading your trip report but am hard pressed to offer meaningful feedback. I will tell you I admire the level of research you are doing, and I plan to benefit from it immensly (however that is spelled).
I can tell you that I found the Mission to Mars attraction to be utterly horrid and it nearly ruined my day it made me so sick. It is a very tiny space that you are locked into. Easy to skip in my opinion, but the simulaton of being in space is excellent. Just don't think I was meant to be an astronaut.

New news for my family. I bid on a batch of 11,000 Worldmark points on Ebay and won! That is enough points for my family to get a two bedroom condo for a week everyyear. So of course with banking and borrowing there is potential there. So that is where we will likely be staying. Assuming it closes, right?

bumbershoot
01-17-2010, 05:19 PM
Tracey, that's awesome news about the Worldmark points! Congratulations! And they have a place at DLR, right?

I'm glad that my research might help your trip. :goodvibes





So this has nothing to do with disney, but it made me sad last night. We've been recording Saturday Night Lives, and I just haven't been in the mood to watch it. Finally Robert convinced me to watch one last night (while the DVR was recording last night's, LOL), and it was from Dec 5th. And on the news update part, they talked about Brittany Murphy being fired, and had one of the cast members do an impression of her. It was so shocking, b/c of course she hadn't died at that point (that happened less than 3 weeks later, I believe). I cried a bit...even though I wasn't a fan AT ALL, not even in Clueless, it's still so sad.

I have a headache today. I think it's from my glasses, as I'm not wearing them all the time and I'm not getting used to them as fast as I would. But I just don't want to do research right now, so you'll have to forgive me. :flower3:

DLR29
01-17-2010, 09:02 PM
Hi Molly,
I love reading your trip report but am hard pressed to offer meaningful feedback. I will tell you I admire the level of research you are doing, and I plan to benefit from it immensly (however that is spelled).
I can tell you that I found the Mission to Mars attraction to be utterly horrid and it nearly ruined my day it made me so sick. It is a very tiny space that you are locked into. Easy to skip in my opinion, but the simulaton of being in space is excellent. Just don't think I was meant to be an astronaut.

New news for my family. I bid on a batch of 11,000 Worldmark points on Ebay and won! That is enough points for my family to get a two bedroom condo for a week everyyear. So of course with banking and borrowing there is potential there. So that is where we will likely be staying. Assuming it closes, right?

Ooh, I've stayed at the Orlando Worldmark! It's really close to the parks. Probably the longest drive (to AK) was 10 min from leaving the resort. And the whole place is really nice. Fortunately, this time, we're using WM points to do an exchange through RCI to get a DVC place (I know, lots of exchanges), and so we're only paying like a couple hundred dollars in exchange fees for a 2BR SSR place for a week! :yay:

Tracey, that's awesome news about the Worldmark points! Congratulations! And they have a place at DLR, right?

I'm glad that my research might help your trip. :goodvibes:

They have 2 places near DLR. I just stayed at the one closest to the Gardenwalk. Really really nice and they have a cool top floor with private fireworks viewing area and jacuzzi. :thumbsup2

bumbershoot
01-18-2010, 04:33 PM
DLR29, you are one lucky dude, to have experienced all this fun travel!

Brady's Mom
01-20-2010, 01:54 PM
DLR29, you are one lucky dude, to have experienced all this fun travel!


Just think, Molly, E will be like dlr29 with all of HIS travel since you now have DVC and will use it regularly. :thumbsup2 Maybe E will grow up to be a well-seasoned Disney-phile and share his words of Disney travel wisdom with a new generation of Disney lovers!! :upsidedow

bumbershoot
01-20-2010, 02:57 PM
Ooh, nice idea!

I still have remnants of this stupid headache! Robert's calling it a migraine, but I have no interest in calling it that. I think I'm just sleeping floopy, could do with a chiro visit, and I'm getting used to these glasses that I don't have to wear for everything (and are mainly for astigmatism). I also don't want to call it a migraine because I haven't taken anything (besides 4 doses of a homeopathic remedy) for it. It did occur to me that this would be a perfect time to dump the coffee, because it was already worse than a caffeine withdrawal headache, but I thought about that after it had started to lessen already.

However, I've switched to black tea, because frankly coffee was tasting disgusting to me during the headache. I love my Red Rose tea...tastes like growing up. [and then I was going to make a joke about having tea as a kid and being short, but then went a'looking, and there's no evidence either way...can't prove it stunts growth, can't prove it doesn't...interesting!]

kaoden39
01-20-2010, 03:14 PM
I love drinking tea. I am always a little unwilling to label headaches migraines. There is so much there that I don't want to include. Kody my 15 year old gets headaches and last year we went the gamut of medical tests including two spinal taps to figure out what was causing the headaches and to help her. I so regret all those tests now. We are no further now than we were there with "medical" help. I finally decided to go the homeopathic route and try something different on her headache and it helps. She now has relief, the dr route was awful and she just ended up suffering for it. I hope your head feels better Molly.

bumbershoot
01-20-2010, 04:21 PM
Oh, poor Kody! Glad homeopathy has helped her, though. It's brilliant and mysterious, isn't it? My symptoms and general disposition matched one of the remedies that sounds scary, LOL.


My cousin just contacted me by FB, yay. We have a plan to chat by phone! Woo! So I think Robert's wrong by thinking that I've mortally offended her. Whew!


It's just the remnants of the headache, almost like a hangover. Little bits of owie flotsam roaming about. If that makes any sense. Much better than the brutality that was my noggin several days ago!

kaoden39
01-20-2010, 07:19 PM
It is wonderful and mysterious. I have started taking some different stuff I found for my nerve pain that I have from an injury I received when I was in the hospital for so long. It helps me a little, but it really helps my DH Scotty. He suffers from sciatic nerve pain, and nothing has helped him at all.

I am glad that Robert was not right about your cousin. I was pretty sure that you hadn't

It almost like you have a headache hangover. I get them, it's like a fog that follows the headache.

QueenDoOver
01-21-2010, 12:52 AM
Ooh, I've stayed at the Orlando Worldmark! It's really close to the parks. Probably the longest drive (to AK) was 10 min from leaving the resort. And the whole place is really nice. Fortunately, this time, we're using WM points to do an exchange through RCI to get a DVC place (I know, lots of exchanges), and so we're only paying like a couple hundred dollars in exchange fees for a 2BR SSR place for a week! :yay:



They have 2 places near DLR. I just stayed at the one closest to the Gardenwalk. Really really nice and they have a cool top floor with private fireworks viewing area and jacuzzi. :thumbsup2

Oh, that is great news! Wow, how many points did you have to trade in to RCI to get a DVC place for a week? The whole exchange thing is such a mystery to me right now, but yep, I'm hoping for some nice stays, including Florida and California:)

QueenDoOver
01-21-2010, 12:53 AM
Molly, glad your headache is receding! When you make it to the Auburn Disney Store tell me about any good stuff, k?

DLR29
01-21-2010, 09:42 AM
Oh, that is great news! Wow, how many points did you have to trade in to RCI to get a DVC place for a week? The whole exchange thing is such a mystery to me right now, but yep, I'm hoping for some nice stays, including Florida and California:)

I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was quite a bit (I think it cleared us of them, but then we bought some more). The exchange process was a little complicated, but we finally figured it out and we're so excited to go in June! :banana:

bumbershoot
01-21-2010, 03:20 PM
It almost like you have a headache hangover. I get them, it's like a fog that follows the headache.

Yep. Robert said "see, you're dehydrated!" He's now using sparkpeople to track what he eats and he's being AMAZING about it. He just realized his 20th reunion is this year and he won't go if he's the size he is now, and he really wants to go b/c he loved high school. But anyway, because he is watching what *he* is eating, he's watching what I am eating too. So he listed off all the things I'd had that had caffeine in it for the last, oh, 3 days.

Dieters...whattayagonnado?

Molly, glad your headache is receding! When you make it to the Auburn Disney Store tell me about any good stuff, k?

I will I will! That might be a good activity to do next week while Robert's off on another adventure.

kaoden39
01-21-2010, 08:23 PM
I am guilty of doing that too, sometimes, but boy do I get ticked if Scotty does to me.:rolleyes1 I am pulling fro RObert I know it isn't easy.

QueenDoOver
01-22-2010, 12:01 AM
Oh dieters are the worst! Have to confess to being one right now. Everytime I see someone eating, I am converting it to points, and sometimes I can't help myself but comment out loud. I am glad to report my husband is on the bandwagon with me this time, so is a good support. Fortunetly he goes to bed early and I get to stay up late and eat my 2 points worth of popcorn in peace!

bumbershoot
01-22-2010, 12:35 AM
I am guilty of doing that too, sometimes, but boy do I get ticked if Scotty does to me.:rolleyes1 I am pulling fro RObert I know it isn't easy.

:)

He started this diet...which is of course vegetarian, based on his current weight, with special carb considerations of course. And he's astonished at how much he needs to eat, but also how much FAT he was eating before. And I'm sure he's watching me dip my carrots into the blue cheese, and just tsking about it. "Did you measure that?" Well no, but I'm also NOT going to be eating all of what I scooped. Harumph.

But he's already lost 5 pounds. You know how there are those silly sounding HCG diets, where you pay OOP for the drug and it supposedly helps you lose some extra weight? What's funny is that drugs.com has big warnings saying that there's no proof it works, don't use it without a prescription, etc. But Robert's endocrinologist (who specializes in diabetics and pituitary disorders...was he a PERFECT find, or what?) actually TOLD him that he would probably start losing more weight once he started the HCG. So what's up with that?

I think that the combo of reducing the prolactinoma, using the HCG to help with the problems that the prolactinoma has caused, and really watching his fat intake are really going to blast that weight away. Yay Robert!

Oh dieters are the worst! Have to confess to being one right now. Everytime I see someone eating, I am converting it to points, and sometimes I can't help myself but comment out loud. I am glad to report my husband is on the bandwagon with me this time, so is a good support. Fortunetly he goes to bed early and I get to stay up late and eat my 2 points worth of popcorn in peace!

Go Tracey, go Tracey, go Tracey!


All I'm doing right now is exercising. And even though I'm doing the same thing for the same amount of time, I've started to push myself just a little bit more. Woo!

Unfortunately, I found out that the scale in the women's locker room is not accurate! Argh!

bumbershoot
01-22-2010, 04:15 PM
Talked to the cousin, it's going to be really amusing to see her in person. The last time I saw her, she had no kids, I wasn't married, and it was for my mom's funeral. Not a good time to have fun! But just talking with her, I can hear that our voices are almost the same, which cracks me up.

See, our moms had/have kind of weird voices. Intriguing voices, but not "pretty". Not unpleasant, but definitely different. And my cousin and I have these high, light voices, and I know that hers is pleasant, and I've heard enough people tell me nice things about my own voice...I think it's going to be pretty funny for those around us to hear us chatter.

Anyway, we had a pre-talk talk the other night, and she just wanted to know that they can open their schedule for whatever, that they think a weekend plus a day before and after is good for them, and that I should choose whatever resort that works for our group.

Woo!

So we're going to talk again at the beginning of next week (since she and her husband are running off to stay at POP for the first time, this weekend).





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Gotta complain for a second, just to put it out there in the ether.

Not the happiest of subjects, by the way, feel free to skip it! It's just something that is really bothering me!




I'm really getting bothered by people who flippantly say things about "drinking the koolaid", when they are talking about, for example, owning DVC or Dave Ramsey's "being weird". Don't they remember what they refers to? It's not a funny thing. It's a horrible awful disgusting thing. "The greatest single loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the events of September 11, 2001". I was only a kid when it happened, but I could never ever use that "koolaid" phrase (though actually I just read on the wiki page that it was "flavor aid" not kool aid). Too ugly.

OK, complaint done!

kaoden39
01-22-2010, 07:54 PM
And growing up in the bay area maybe we were closer to it. I find those "jokes" tasteless myself.

I am pleased to hear about you and your cousin. I hope they havea good weekend.

bumbershoot
01-24-2010, 04:16 PM
kaoden39, that's very possible. Just like when I'm looking through the Lego catalog and see the Indiana Jones "Chauchilla" set, I get a little shivery, b/c I'm sure the name is said just like Chowchilla.

It's interesting. While I was looking at that wiki page (knowing that not all wiki pages are perfect with excellent info), it said that Harvey Milk and Moscone were involved with Jim Jones before he went to Guyana. And Milk/Moscone are considered, especially after the movie, to be heroes...my mom sure did mourn Milk. Just thought it was interesting how those guys were "taken in", to a certain extent, by Jones.

Also disturbing how much Jones looked like my first stepdad (who had the quintessential 70s hair and wore polyester shirts every day, oohhhh).

bumbershoot
01-24-2010, 04:27 PM
Well, the hubs is just about landing at his stopover airport right now, on a week-long business trip! Sigh. Dude's gonna freeze; his more wintery coats are all too small right now, and so he has a nice warm fleece and a windbreaker type jacket to go over. I think I convinced him to put his gloves in his carryon, just in case his bag gets separated from him temporarily.

He lost another FOUR pounds! So that's 9 pounds in 2 weeks. As we've been saying, he's finally losing weight like a guy! Woo! He's going to hit wedding weight in no time, and wedding weight was gooood. I'm doing well, too, though I don't have a good scale. He is doing the 12 week program at the Y, and so can use their digital scale that is calibrated. I just have the old fashioned scale, which you would think would be accurate, but the employees say that it's often out of whack, and people really abuse it. So I guess I just gotta go with how I feel and look, and watching various lumps and bumps disappear (though I often didn't know I had those lumps and bumps, my dysmorphic concept of my body is THAT bad).

Eamon got into the gymnastics class (2 weeks after it started), and starting tomorrow he'll have FOUR days that he needs to be at the Y, vs the 3 from before. If he's at the Y, I'm there, and if I'm there I'm going to work out. So I'll be stepping it up! I'm pretty excited. I have many clothes from before the weight gain(s), and I don't tend to buy trendy-trendy stuff, so I'll end up with an old/new wardrobe as I smallen (I love that made up word).

So this is us! :banana::banana:

It's going to make being in FL so much easier.

kaoden39
01-24-2010, 04:37 PM
kaoden39, that's very possible. Just like when I'm looking through the Lego catalog and see the Indiana Jones "Chauchilla" set, I get a little shivery, b/c I'm sure the name is said just like Chowchilla.

It's interesting. While I was looking at that wiki page (knowing that not all wiki pages are perfect with excellent info), it said that Harvey Milk and Moscone were involved with Jim Jones before he went to Guyana. And Milk/Moscone are considered, especially after the movie, to be heroes...my mom sure did mourn Milk. Just thought it was interesting how those guys were "taken in", to a certain extent, by Jones.

Also disturbing how much Jones looked like my first stepdad (who had the quintessential 70s hair and wore polyester shirts every day, oohhhh).

So many people were taken in by Jim Jones. Most people like that are charismatic and it draws the people in. Milk and Moscone were both great men. They loved the city and the people of it and their lives were devoted to improving the lives of the people. Their deaths were so sad. And wow Chowchilla, that scared me for years, I wasn't able to go near a bus without a panic attack for years after that.

Well, the hubs is just about landing at his stopover airport right now, on a week-long business trip! Sigh. Dude's gonna freeze; his more wintery coats are all too small right now, and so he has a nice warm fleece and a windbreaker type jacket to go over. I think I convinced him to put his gloves in his carryon, just in case his bag gets separated from him temporarily.

He lost another FOUR pounds! So that's 9 pounds in 2 weeks. As we've been saying, he's finally losing weight like a guy! Woo! He's going to hit wedding weight in no time, and wedding weight was gooood. I'm doing well, too, though I don't have a good scale. He is doing the 12 week program at the Y, and so can use their digital scale that is calibrated. I just have the old fashioned scale, which you would think would be accurate, but the employees say that it's often out of whack, and people really abuse it. So I guess I just gotta go with how I feel and look, and watching various lumps and bumps disappear (though I often didn't know I had those lumps and bumps, my dysmorphic concept of my body is THAT bad).

Eamon got into the gymnastics class (2 weeks after it started), and starting tomorrow he'll have FOUR days that he needs to be at the Y, vs the 3 from before. If he's at the Y, I'm there, and if I'm there I'm going to work out. So I'll be stepping it up! I'm pretty excited. I have many clothes from before the weight gain(s), and I don't tend to buy trendy-trendy stuff, so I'll end up with an old/new wardrobe as I smallen (I love that made up word).

So this is us! :banana::banana:

It's going to make being in FL so much easier.

You guys are doing great. And how great for Eamon and the gymnastics, I bet he is loving all his classes at the Y.

bumbershoot
01-25-2010, 01:40 AM
OK I gotta stop reading about those awful things! Otherwise my prepretrip report is going to become "let's talk about psychos" report, and since there's no category for that, it'll be moved to the Community Board, and no one wants that.:upsidedow

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When last I did a really pretrip related post, I was talking Epcot.

Does anyone have any good Epcot websites to share with me? I looked at WDW, wdwinfo, and stitchkingdom's epcot pages already.

I was actually going to morph from a park over to Disney Quest, but then I went a'lookin' at wdwinfo's info, and...meh. When E's older, I think.

QueenDoOver
01-26-2010, 01:29 AM
First of all, I admit it...I have used that phrase! Completly without any knowledge of where it came form, even though I do know about that horrible event. Just didn't link it. I will not do that again!

Well, the hubs is just about landing at his stopover airport right now, on a week-long business trip! Sigh. Dude's gonna freeze; his more wintery coats are all too small right now, and so he has a nice warm fleece and a windbreaker type jacket to go over. I think I convinced him to put his gloves in his carryon, just in case his bag gets separated from him temporarily.

He lost another FOUR pounds! So that's 9 pounds in 2 weeks. As we've been saying, he's finally losing weight like a guy! Woo! He's going to hit wedding weight in no time, and wedding weight was gooood. I'm doing well, too, though I don't have a good scale. He is doing the 12 week program at the Y, and so can use their digital scale that is calibrated. I just have the old fashioned scale, which you would think would be accurate, but the employees say that it's often out of whack, and people really abuse it. So I guess I just gotta go with how I feel and look, and watching various lumps and bumps disappear (though I often didn't know I had those lumps and bumps, my dysmorphic concept of my body is THAT bad).

Eamon got into the gymnastics class (2 weeks after it started), and starting tomorrow he'll have FOUR days that he needs to be at the Y, vs the 3 from before. If he's at the Y, I'm there, and if I'm there I'm going to work out. So I'll be stepping it up! I'm pretty excited. I have many clothes from before the weight gain(s), and I don't tend to buy trendy-trendy stuff, so I'll end up with an old/new wardrobe as I smallen (I love that made up word).

So this is us! :banana::banana:

It's going to make being in FL so much easier.

Oh yeah for both of you! That is great. And it is all about getting around easier and enjoying life more and being there and being healthy for the kiddos, etc. I am also working out and feeling great for it, but the changes are slow. I did tell my husband that even after 10 days of eating better, I feel like my muffin top is smaller. I don't have a measuring tape but I wish I did. Sometimes that is more rewarding than dropping pounds. We used to do the Y, but Nathan doesn't like the kid's area, can't swim by himself now that they changed the rules, and since it was such a germ fest and flu was going around we stopped our membership. We will probably go back at some point though.

bumbershoot
01-26-2010, 02:31 AM
First of all, I admit it...I have used that phrase! Completly without any knowledge of where it came form, even though I do know about that horrible event. Just didn't link it. I will not do that again!

Oh no, I was so so hoping that none of my friends here had used it. Dangit! I never meant to be rude to anyone. :(

Oh yeah for both of you! That is great. And it is all about getting around easier and enjoying life more and being there and being healthy for the kiddos, etc. I am also working out and feeling great for it, but the changes are slow. I did tell my husband that even after 10 days of eating better, I feel like my muffin top is smaller. I don't have a measuring tape but I wish I did. Sometimes that is more rewarding than dropping pounds. We used to do the Y, but Nathan doesn't like the kid's area, can't swim by himself now that they changed the rules, and since it was such a germ fest and flu was going around we stopped our membership. We will probably go back at some point though.

Woohoo for muffin top shrinkage! Isn't that just an awful place to gain? It feels like it will never leave. Only thing worse for me is the lower abdomen nonsense from pregnancy. Can't suck that in! Hubby insists that that area is shrinking on me...of course, as I note the changes, I also note that..it must have been WAY bigger than I thought it was...gah.

Oh the Y is so nasty! Or rather, some parents are nasty. It's one thing if you just don't know your kid is sick. But on Sat and today there were obviously coughing kids in the free kid play area (they have a front room where kids under 10 can play while their parents work out right in there...that's how it is *supposed to* work, at least). And the parents are always the ones with earbuds shoved into their ear canals, oblivious to little Johnny coughing his lungs out.

What a bummer they changed their swim regulations! Poor Nathan!

bumbershoot
01-26-2010, 05:07 PM
Grr! We're both not feeling well. E is coughing. So, despite the strong urge to go "get back" at those coughers we've been around, we're staying home. Gol dang.

So that should give me ample time for research! But right now I'm helping hubby from afar with his hotel that seems to have given the wrong info to hotels.com, and is pretending like they are giving him something for free, instead of giving him what he paid for. Grr.

Ooh the hotel dude is a liar liar pants on fire. "we don't have that kind of room with Expedia" is what he said. But we booked it with hotels.com. And...they do indeed have that type of room on Expedia! Grr. Anyway, he moved Robert to the proper room, so that's good. And I can't blame myself for a cruddy hotel, because Robert chose this one. But I did the actual booking, so I still do feel guilty!

I want Thai food soooooo bad. But our "family fun fund" is down to 4.01 for the month and that's not enough for more than a thai iced tea! Though that sounds good....I should go out to get OJ anyway (if R were here I'd leave E home, but...)...



I'll get to researching soon, I promise!

kaoden39
01-26-2010, 07:20 PM
This year is so much worse for colds and such. I never get colds and in the last six months not only did I have H1N1, but I have had two colds. Enough already!!! I hate having colds. I ordered a couple of Disneyland books from Amazon the other day and they came today so I have been pouring over them. It's not like I have never been, I know what to expect but, I am so addicted, I love the books and there was a new one I had never seen so I had to have it. It is the Imagineer's Field Guide to Disneyland. So I am in earnest palnning for a trip that will not get canceled on me this time.

bumbershoot
01-26-2010, 08:31 PM
Oh how fun to get those books!

OK I thought I could be more chatty, but my brain seems to have disappeared. :)

kaoden39
01-26-2010, 08:35 PM
Oh how fun to get those books!

OK I thought I could be more chatty, but my brain seems to have disappeared. :)

I am not sure but I am seriously addicted to those books. You know they don't really change that much from time to time but I had to have the new Birnbaum. Although it has been since 2007 that I have been in the park, there have been changes.

bumbershoot
01-26-2010, 09:51 PM
Realized I hadn't looked at allears' pages on the park.

"Epcot is twice the size of the Magic Kingdom". :eek:

I'd forgotten about Club Cool. Obviously we'll have to find out if the products are made as they are made in their "home" countries, or if they've been americanized...ie, eg, (as my old microbiology teacher used to say), if they have HFCS in them. I really want to surprise Robert with the Beverly (though he'll probably like it), but not at the huge expense of his blood sugar (spikes higher with HFCS than with cane sugar).

Gotta see IllumiNations.

OK I think that's enough of the epcot thoughts....


Ooh I'm tired, and E just gave the biggest yawn. If he gets better overnight, just how early would he get up if I put him to bed 2 hours before his bedtime????

bumbershoot
01-27-2010, 06:56 PM
Aw dang, Robert was going to be home on Saturday, but now we'll meet him at the airport, get him an adapter for a different country, perhaps bring him some non-airport lunch, and then see him off (at the TSA area of course) for a second trip tacked onto the week-long trip!

In a way it feels better than him coming back then going a week later, but it's not going to be FUN for him, flying for so many hours on Saturday/Sunday!

At least he got a break the other day; took the train from point A to point B...alas, point C would take 24 hours by train, so it'll be a plane tomorrow.


Sure is interesting, this whole being alone with kidlet business. One thing's for sure; I'm MUCH more of a slob that Robert is! :rotfl:

kaoden39
01-27-2010, 08:22 PM
Poor Robert and poor Molly and Eamon. I was thinking about you earlier when I saw that Disney is selling their "spa" products like the H20 products.

DLR29
01-27-2010, 08:55 PM
Club Cool was the first thing that we did when we went. It's an awesome place to try new sodas and just escape the heat. :thumbsup2

QueenDoOver
01-28-2010, 12:23 AM
This year is so much worse for colds and such. I never get colds and in the last six months not only did I have H1N1, but I have had two colds. Enough already!!! I hate having colds. I ordered a couple of Disneyland books from Amazon the other day and they came today so I have been pouring over them. It's not like I have never been, I know what to expect but, I am so addicted, I love the books and there was a new one I had never seen so I had to have it. It is the Imagineer's Field Guide to Disneyland. So I am in earnest palnning for a trip that will not get canceled on me this time.

oh wow! That book sounds so interesting. The Imagineers Field Guide. Hmm... I'll have to think about that one. Does the library have any of these books?

We had H1N1 too, but then stopped the Y and we have not been sick since. Knock on wood:)

Molly, sorry Robert is off again!

kaoden39
01-28-2010, 12:28 AM
oh wow! That book sounds so interesting. The Imagineers Field Guide. Hmm... I'll have to think about that one. Does the library have any of these books?

We had H1N1 too, but then stopped the Y and we have not been sick since. Knock on wood:)

Molly, sorry Robert is off again!

I have never seen it at the library but who knows. I have never even seen the Field Guides at the bookstore. I got that idea that they are considered children books but they don't read like it for me. My kids keep bringing everything home from school, and they even have hand sanitizer and everything.

bumbershoot
01-28-2010, 01:24 AM
Males, minor Dis'ers, and...anyone who wants to not read details of wished-for future family stuff, just skip ahead to the next post, which will likely be tomorrow.









Oh, it's really OK that he's delayed coming home. It was actually my idea after looking at calendar weeks and whatnot. But then he went ahead and called their TA and made it happen, while I was like "oh wait, maybe we should take a month or two off of this whole baby thing, what with WDW and all in December", but it's too late now!

Sorry, waaaay TMI.

And waaaaay bummer, b/c I really, you know, thought...you know. Went off coffee, foods were weird...sigh.

Oh well. Sucks.

At least I have another few weeks minimum to continue getting this weight off, right? Because it'll only take a few weeks to lose, oh, 70 pounds, right? :rotfl: (eta, not that I would stop exercising should anything fun happen. now I'm in an established fitness routine, and they always say that you can normally continue with your ROUTINE...so I'm glad I have a routine now!)

kaoden39
01-28-2010, 10:00 AM
Oh Molly:hug:sorry about this, but you have the right attitude. And yes, the regular habits are good to keep. And I need to get a regular routine going again myself especially with a June trip coming up again.

bumbershoot
01-29-2010, 02:34 AM
Aw, thank you.

I hate feeling so obsessed. Hate it hate it hate it. But I don't talk about it to anyone but Robert (though E talks about when he has a sister ALL the time), so then it just leaks out here.

Aw dang, I think E just woke up. His throat is NOwhere near as red as it was with the strep, but it's hurtin' him something fierce today (sorry, watching Night at the Museum 2 the other day a few times in a row, now I'm talking like Owen's character I guess), and it took quite a bit to get him to sleep! Namely, sitting with him on my lap like he was a baby, in a steamy hot bathroom, on the edge of the tub, to ease his chest, where his nearly 50 lbs fell asleep on me. I would like him to sleep all night please, just so my arms can get back to normal after that! :goodvibes

Although I'm letting the Legos sit out on the floor and coffee table all night (unlike Robert), I'm actually getting other stuff done, which is nice. Today's project was changing around my record-keeping for insurance and things that get charged to insurance. Might not make any more room in the house, but it will help my brain! And since the semi-good record-keeping I've been doing recently helped figure out a thing that insurance did (a good thing! they reevaluated a claim, all on their own, from Oct '08, and paid the provider what they should have done then, which means the provider gets to return some of the money I paid him!), I figure that GREAT record-keeping will also yield good things. Even if it's only peace of mind that I can put my hands on what I want to get...that's good.

Of course that stuff just keeps me from the WDW stuff sitting next to me right now. The "how can we stretch these DVC points to make this vacation?" work.

Uh oh, I mentioned WDW when I wasn't going to! Shh!

Brady's Mom
01-29-2010, 10:29 AM
More Off Topic totally not related to WDW conversation, feel free to skip!
Oh, it's really OK that he's delayed coming home. It was actually my idea after looking at calendar weeks and whatnot. But then he went ahead and called their TA and made it happen, while I was like "oh wait, maybe we should take a month or two off of this whole baby thing, what with WDW and all in December", but it's too late now!

Sorry, waaaay TMI.

And waaaaay bummer, b/c I really, you know, thought...you know. Went off coffee, foods were weird...sigh.

Oh well. Sucks.

At least I have another few weeks minimum to continue getting this weight off, right? Because it'll only take a few weeks to lose, oh, 70 pounds, right? :rotfl: (eta, not that I would stop exercising should anything fun happen. now I'm in an established fitness routine, and they always say that you can normally continue with your ROUTINE...so I'm glad I have a routine now!)

That is the biggest bummer of wanting a baby sooooo bad. The disappointment that can happen month after month. :hug: Been there, done that, would not wish it on my worst enemy. Actually having R gone for a couple of weeks could be a good thing. Not necessarily calendar wise, but stress wise in the pro creation department. It can get so exhausting with the planning and the hoping and what not. Not to mention the emotional strain it can put on an otherwise healthy relationship.

And E may have a line on what's coming next. Wouldn't surprise me to hear that you do get preggers soon AND that it turns out to be a girl.

OT: Have you tried an ovulation kit now that some of R's medical problems are being taken care of? Dr.'s told me they were supposed to work - never did for me - but, it could work for timing purposes if that's an issue.

Hoping things work out for you, I feel your pain. There aren't big spaces between my kids on purpose - we wanted 4 MUCH closer together. Although
now that we have our two littles I wouldn't change a thing. :thumbsup2

And one other little tidbit. I was carrying too much weight with my last 2 kids and actually didn't gain a pound with either of them. I don't gain in the first trimester anyway, I lose about 5-10 pounds - and just kept weighing the same whenever I went to the Dr. Turns out after I had them I had lost about 15 or more pounds. Too bad my metabolism and hormones are wacked and I couldn't keep it off! Maybe the no weight gain thing will work for you!

bumbershoot
01-29-2010, 06:11 PM
The first while that E was talking about his sister (or brother), I was all excited. After all, my grandmother's oldest child (it's hard to call her my aunt, as she tragically died at 7) started telling neighbors "my mom is having a Judy baby". Nama did NOT know she was pregnant with her third baby until a bit after chastising Susan for this. Then she found out. Then Susan died (can you imagine the grief). Then the baby was born, and it was a girl (my mom), and of course they named her Judy.

But...it's been going on too long for me to think he knows what he's talking about with that. But who knows? Hope MUST spring eternal!

I used the Clear Blue Easy monitor for about 6 or 7 months. And then we found out about the prolactinoma. I've been considering starting to use it again, now that it seems more likely that things might happen. Since the diagnosis, each month has been more like a "eh, can't hurt, even if it's unlikely" thing. But it would probably be a good idea. Those strips are expensive!


Oh how great it would be to not gain! I gained 60 pounds with E. And since there were very very FEW foods that I could eat, that's impressive. Though it all came off quite quickly, all but the last 5 lbs, which I then let depress me so much I turned it into...however much I weigh now, LOL.



Goodness gracious! While surfing the Dis I've been trying to get surveys on my rewards site, and I just realized that I have to find all the things for Robert when we meet up at the airport tomorrow! Yikes!

QueenDoOver
01-29-2010, 10:19 PM
Ah Molly. I sure hope things turn out just right for you. I don't know what that means, because you are surely a wonderful Mom to E and if that is all there is well that is a wonderful thing. For me, Nathan keeps begging for a little brother or sister and I keep telling him that is never going to happen. He is my forever baby and that is that. But that being said, I know your heart desires another and I hope your wish comes true!

bumbershoot
01-30-2010, 10:56 PM
Thanks Tracey. :lovestruc



*************

Went to the airport, fed DH some homemade food, brought him stuff he needs and took home stuff he didn't. Sat around for awhile and watched DS and DH be goofy.

He will be landing soon at LAX, and has a 3+ hour layover, which is so so obnoxious. Too long to not go bananas at the airport; too short to, you know, go to Disneyland. :rotfl:

We couldn't have gone with him (no passports!), but I was SO tempted just to catch a plane to Anaheim! With E, of course. It's hard to be *in* an airport and not go anywhere!

Brady's Mom
02-02-2010, 01:26 PM
Oh, I bet he appreciated the homemade food. When DH used to travel he really, really appreciated home cooking when he got home. It's hard to eat well when you travel, especially when you're veggie or actually aren't veggie but eat a lot of veggies!! :rolleyes1

I would have been VERY tempted to jump on a plane if I were at the airport.

I am having a really hard time not planning a trip to DLR this year. It will be our first year w/out a DL trip in 4 years. We have other things we need to take care of and a trip to San Francisco in Aug., but I really want to go to DLR somehow. Spring break would be perfect, and our AP's would still be good and our kids wouldn't miss school - but I just can't justify the expense or being gone two weeks before our son comes home from Taiwan after being gone for 2 years. Who knows how long it will take to get his room back together since it seems to have been collecting all of the things we don't know where to put. :confused3

bumbershoot
02-02-2010, 06:40 PM
If only your son were coming home *before* Spring Break! Then it could have been a big celebratory trip. :)


DH is now on a plane heading to an airport where he will just have enough time to get to the biiiig plane that will bring him home. He'll be at seatac in about 23 hours. Ugh, poor guy.

He went to bed so late last night and got up to find out that his boss had thrown some extra tests at him while he was sleeping (she does NOT pay attention to time zones). So instead of a casual breakfast and getting to the airport super-early, he had to rush rush rush. But it all got done.



DS seemed well enough to go to the Y yesterday for gymnastics. I'm glad he did, because were able to sign up for priority somethingorother that gets him automatically in next session of gymnastics. They have two sessions per season...if you have good attendance the first session, you're auto-entered for the second. But between seasons there's no auto anything.

Anyway, I noticed that almost everyone at the Y had a nasty nasty cough. I felt like I was in a hospital ward! And I now feel silly for worrying about getting others sick, because I seem to be the ONLY one. :confused3

But as the class went on, I started to feel sick, and as we drove home, he got the nasty chest cough that everyone had. So it seems to be a sneaky illness.

Today we stayed home from PE, and I'm sure we'll be well for Thursday. Even if I'm not, DH can take him (he'll stay home a couple days for his health, preventatively, and because he gets so little sleep while working on trips).


Made the biggest "snowball" payment to our car yet! Took almost $600 of principal off the balance. Could have sent more, but kept some money back to buy a WDW ticket for E. Still haven't decided where I'm buying it. Undercover Tourist through Mousesavers is the cheapest. Undercover Tourist through the rewards site I use and love and makes my days bright and sunny link is almost as cheap, and gives a few bucks back in Sunshine. So it's more out of pocket, but gives us some back in rewards that will become a Disney GiftCard (and helps support Sunshine, since they get a cut of course). Decisions decisions.

Plus we still have the CD-sales checks coming...not sure where those will be put yet. Snowball, ticket, plain old savings for the trip...



I'm going to continue cleaning and do some recycling, but then I WILL come back and do trip stuff! I think I'll talk about DHS today!



italicized bit is because the dis doesn't seem to allow even the *mention* of the full name of the site anymore...type mypoints, no problem, type bing, no problem, but THAT one, the nicest and sweetest and loveliest one, and they get starred out....whatever! dudes, it's not a link! it's just the name.

bumbershoot
02-03-2010, 01:05 AM
Ok that was a lot of recycling and a lot of living room cleanup. I always think Robert's being a goof when he has DS clear the Legos up each night...but wow, 1.5 weeks of being slobby sure does spread the Legos out!

R is on his flight, and DS is up late (the cleanup caused me to not realize how late it was until we were both headachey from not having dinner, ack!), but will soon head to slumber-land.

And then...maybe I can convince myself to think and write about my thoughts on the park that includes Toy Story Midway Mania!

bumbershoot
02-03-2010, 02:57 AM
Things I don't particularly care to do:

Fantasmic.
American Idol Experience (is that still going on?)


Haven't done Playhouse Disney at DCA yet...probably won't concern myself with it at DHS. That's up to E though...and he's behind our not going to it at DCA.


Ridiculously excited to check out their TSMM! I'm sure the ride is just about the same; it's the line that's going to be neat. :goodvibes

Actually, the whole experience of having indoor rides and lines will be fun for me. What a goober!


I'm so bummed about Star Tours. I assume the refurb is going to be a long one, and since it only starts in October...

Someday we'll go for Star Wars Weekends.


Although I have very little interest in eating at the Brown Derby (only one vegetarian option!), I do indeed wish to try their grapefruit cake. I've read that you can, sometimes, get it at Starring Rolls, so I might have to try that.

Robert and Eamon have already informed me that we WILL be going to the Pizza Planet. They don't care about the menu, just the ambiance!



Hmm. That seems to be all I have to say!

kaoden39
02-03-2010, 10:41 AM
I have to so agree with you about the AI experience. I watch it, but, I just don't find that interesting. My kidlings are all teenagers so we have never done the playhouse Disney thing, I actually think I might like to see it. And those teenage kidlings of mine, the girls at least watch playhouse more now than when they were younger.:rolleyes:

The whole concept of inside lines is odd and interesting to me, and Disney does lines better than anyone else.

DLR29
02-03-2010, 08:21 PM
Things I don't particularly care to do:

Fantasmic.
American Idol Experience (is that still going on?)


Haven't done Playhouse Disney at DCA yet...probably won't concern myself with it at DHS. That's up to E though...and he's behind our not going to it at DCA.


Ridiculously excited to check out their TSMM! I'm sure the ride is just about the same; it's the line that's going to be neat. :goodvibes

Actually, the whole experience of having indoor rides and lines will be fun for me. What a goober!


I'm so bummed about Star Tours. I assume the refurb is going to be a long one, and since it only starts in October...

Someday we'll go for Star Wars Weekends.


Although I have very little interest in eating at the Brown Derby (only one vegetarian option!), I do indeed wish to try their grapefruit cake. I've read that you can, sometimes, get it at Starring Rolls, so I might have to try that.

Robert and Eamon have already informed me that we WILL be going to the Pizza Planet. They don't care about the menu, just the ambiance!



Hmm. That seems to be all I have to say!

Do you like Screamin at DCA? If so, you definitely don't want to miss Rock 'n Roller Coaster. IMO, it's better than Screamin, and there's a SR line which doesn't take that long usually. :thumbsup2

Also, is E into cars? Cause the Lights, Motors, Action Stunt show is spectacular!

Ooh, and Great Movie Ride was much better than I thought it would be. :goodvibes

bumbershoot
02-03-2010, 09:02 PM
Oh yeah, everything not on my "no interest" list will very likely be done. :)

bumbershoot
02-07-2010, 04:52 PM
Had a small, in my head only, breakdown the other day of missing Disneyland so so so so much that I was going to just gift a WDW stay to our family, and just go to Disneyland a few times instead.

Oh man that day the disneyland-missing hurt so much!

I had NO idea that our little "hey, we're in so cal, might as well go" day trip in '05 would cause such deep feelings!

kaoden39
02-07-2010, 05:10 PM
Had a small, in my head only, breakdown the other day of missing Disneyland so so so so much that I was going to just gift a WDW stay to our family, and just go to Disneyland a few times instead.

Oh man that day the disneyland-missing hurt so much!

I had NO idea that our little "hey, we're in so cal, might as well go" day trip in '05 would cause such deep feelings!

Aw poor Molly.:hug:

bumbershoot
02-07-2010, 06:19 PM
Yes, well that's what happens when DS watches Monsters Inc! The music brings me back to DCA and I curl into a ball (in my mind) and whimper.


Today, however, I completely lost my mind and told DH that as long as he continued to sort the CDs he wants to sell (so that I can value them on abundatrade and secondspin and get them sent off), that he doesn't have to go to his friend's for the stupidbowl (sorry to the fans...I just...can't call it "super" b/c it's so overblown and ridiculously NOT about actual football). Not that he was planning on that, though he and E went last year (while I had a fun time shopping at Ikea with a friend), but I figured it would be extra nice of me. But ohhhhh I'd forgotten how much I dislike it. 18 minutes into the programming...still no playing...gahhhhhhhhh.

kaoden39
02-07-2010, 06:29 PM
Yes, well that's what happens when DS watches Monsters Inc! The music brings me back to DCA and I curl into a ball (in my mind) and whimper.


Today, however, I completely lost my mind and told DH that as long as he continued to sort the CDs he wants to sell (so that I can value them on abundatrade and secondspin and get them sent off), that he doesn't have to go to his friend's for the stupidbowl (sorry to the fans...I just...can't call it "super" b/c it's so overblown and ridiculously NOT about actual football). Not that he was planning on that, though he and E went last year (while I had a fun time shopping at Ikea with a friend), but I figured it would be extra nice of me. But ohhhhh I'd forgotten how much I dislike it. 18 minutes into the programming...still no playing...gahhhhhhhhh.

It is way overblown. If it was more about the game than the party it might be different.

bumbershoot
02-07-2010, 07:58 PM
And the announcers have the Dora syndrome...think they need to YELL everything to be heard. Forgetting that they have these clever little things called microphones...

Why are they all *holding* microphones? Are we actually supposed to believe they don't have microphones clipped onto them? Or is that to make sure they can put them down if they need to say anything naughty?

Stop yelling! Even if you can't hear yourself, WE can hear you if you whisper...shhhh....

bumbershoot
02-07-2010, 08:12 PM
Eamon is so confused by the halftime show (can probably tell by that that sports aren't really on much in this household)...he just brought Monsters Inc to me again, wanting to watch it (it's the rule that adults take movies out of the cases, after a couple discs were damaged).

And I made Robert giggle madly by my explanation. I said that this game is a really big deal to the players and they are very nervous, so at halftime they go take a nap for an hour. :rotfl:

Eamon didn't believe me, and Robert giggled...and now we're watching Jonas instead of The Who. Love this show!

kaoden39
02-07-2010, 09:13 PM
Eamon is so confused by the halftime show (can probably tell by that that sports aren't really on much in this household)...he just brought Monsters Inc to me again, wanting to watch it (it's the rule that adults take movies out of the cases, after a couple discs were damaged).

And I made Robert giggle madly by my explanation. I said that this game is a really big deal to the players and they are very nervous, so at halftime they go take a nap for an hour. :rotfl:

Eamon didn't believe me, and Robert giggled...and now we're watching Jonas instead of The Who. Love this show!

I love your explanation. And frankly I would be ready for a nap after playing a half of a football game.

:rotfl:

bumbershoot
02-08-2010, 06:06 PM
I keep getting emails from DinoWorld. I enjoy that. :goodvibes


I figure I should talk about the MK! It's weird, but I'm the least excited and most weirded out by thoughts of entering that park.

I know the castle is going to freak me out. And I'm going to miss miss miss the Matterhorn! From looking at pictures, I'm probably going to have false starts and startles all day, when something isn't where my Disneyland brain thinks it should be, and when something unexpected suddenly appears. It's going to be interesting!

And of course I *believe* everything will be all in an uproar during our stay, because I think they'll be doing huge renovations at the time. Let me check on that...

OK I just want to say...Little Mermaid was out when my brother, who is now 38, was in high school. Why are they just now putting LM rides into parks? Was it even that good of a movie? I haven't really enjoyed it, I know that...

Anyway, sorry for that heresy. First football, now Ariel...what will I disparage next?


OK so I'm only seeing that "by 2013" things will be done. But when does it start? If anyone knows, tell me. :)


So MK consists of:

Adventureland Main Street USA
Fantasyland Mickey's Toontown Fair
Frontierland Tomorrowland
Liberty Square


Excellent. Sounds familiar. :) Except for the Liberty bit and the utter lack of NOS. But I can handle that. Even though NOS is my fave part of DL. But whatever, it's OK. And of course ToonTown might not exist by the time of our trip. That's OK too.


Tomorrowland:

Astro Orbiter
Stitch's Great Escape!
Buzz Lightyear's - Spin
Tomorrowland Speedway
Carousel of Progress
Tomorrowland Transit Authority
Monsters, Inc. Laugh Floor
Space Mountain

Frontierland:

Big Thunder Mountain
Tom Sawyer Island
Country Bear Jamboree
Splash Mountain

Adventureland:

Enchanted Tiki Room
Swiss Family Treehouse
Jungle Cruise
The Magic Carpets of Aladdin
Pirates of the Caribbean

Fantasyland:

Ariel's Grotto
Peter Pan's Flight
Cinderella's Golden Carousel
Snow Whites Scary Adventures
Dumbo the Flying Elephant
Winnie the Pooh
It's a Small World
Pooh's Playful Spot
Mad Tea Party
Mickeys PhilharMagic

Liberty Square:

Hall of Presidents
Liberty Square Riverboat
The Haunted Mansion

Just in case it still exists in December, Mickey's ToonTown Fair:

The Barnstormer
Pixie Hollow
Donald's Boat
Toontown Hall of Fame
Mickey's Country House
Minnie's Country House


Parades/Fireworks...I'm sure we'll try to see them. Though maybe not the "move it shake it" thing wdwinfo mentions...

Might leave the Hall of Presidents for a later trip.

Excited about the Swiss Family Treehouse, because the Tarzan thing doesn't do much for me at DL. Actually the Tarzan overlay makes me nervous and sad, to think of baby Tarzan missing his parents and having a crib in the trees and all of that... At least with the SWR the whole family was there!


More later.

Silly Little Pixie
02-08-2010, 07:35 PM
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I figure I should talk about the MK! It's weird, but I'm the least excited and most weirded out by thoughts of entering that park.

I know the castle is going to freak me out. And I'm going to miss miss miss the Matterhorn! From looking at pictures, I'm probably going to have false starts and startles all day, when something isn't where my Disneyland brain thinks it should be, and when something unexpected suddenly appears. It's going to be interesting!


MK is our least favorite park. I know to the WDW fans, that is heresy, but it's true. DH only goes long enough to see Mickey's Philharmagic (because it's Donald-centric, and he's his favorite character, and it's awesome...). Otherwise he wouldn't go at all. Truly for us it's a one-day park, mainly so I can see Wishes at night! The castle is lovely- and enormous- and pretty- and enormous. It does take some getting used to. My DD and I enjoyed a very nice breakfast last year at Cinderella's Royal Table. That was a neat experience, and we had a wonderful server. But it was expensive, so it won't be on every trip.

When I went in 2003 with my brother, we both commented on how we knew where everything was at Disneyland - no maps required- and yet at the Magic Kingdom we were always on the edge of getting a little lost! You'll need to study up on some maps ahead of time.

But don't worry, after a few trips I think you will have it all down!

Christine

bumbershoot
02-09-2010, 02:40 AM
MK is our least favorite park. I know to the WDW fans, that is heresy, but it's true. DH only goes long enough to see Mickey's Philharmagic (because it's Donald-centric, and he's his favorite character, and it's awesome...). Otherwise he wouldn't go at all. Truly for us it's a one-day park, mainly so I can see Wishes at night!

I really appreciate that feedback! I won't feel like a freak now, if that's how I feel. :upsidedow

Silly Little Pixie
02-09-2010, 09:39 PM
I really appreciate that feedback! I won't feel like a freak now, if that's how I feel. :upsidedow

My DH really prefers DL to the MK, and since we go often enough to DL, he feels like it's a letdown at MK. I don't... I appreciate what's different... But still prefer to spend more of my time elsewhere. Plus we have had a great time at the waterparks, something not at DL.

heatherleigh
02-10-2010, 02:40 AM
Just got caught up w/ your pre-trip report, and I'm getting excited for you! I cannot wait for your feedback upon your return.

I just realized it's actually less expensive for us to fly to Orlando than it is to fly to SNA, but it looks too overwhelming. I wouldn't even know where to begin w/ the planning. We are still doing DL this Nov, but next year we will take on WDW for sure.

I bet Eamon is super excited!

bumbershoot
02-10-2010, 04:40 PM
But still prefer to spend more of my time elsewhere. Plus we have had a great time at the waterparks, something not at DL.

I hope it's decent enough weather to go to a waterpark! I don't mind *swimming* when it's cold, but that whole *getting out of the water* part can really ruin it for me, if the air is cold.

I'm super-excited for AK, I can tell you that!



I just realized it's actually less expensive for us to fly to Orlando than it is to fly to SNA, but it looks too overwhelming. I wouldn't even know where to begin w/ the planning. We are still doing DL this Nov, but next year we will take on WDW for sure.

I bet Eamon is super excited!

We can't even look at airfare yet. Plus, we're hoping that Robert snags a few more big trips and earns scads more air miles, to reduce the cost of a flight. :)

E is excited, but it's all sort of mysterious to him as well. We have these big maps on the wall, and he was asking (more like telling) about our trip, and how we'll go down to Disneyland first, then take a plane to Disneyworld. And while I couldn't bring myself to say absolutely NO to that (I mean, that sounds fabulous to me!), I did have to tell him that that is not very likely.

But now the kid put the idea into my head. :rotfl:

kaoden39
02-10-2010, 09:10 PM
But now the kid put the idea into my head. :rotfl:

must....resist....the...temptation....must...not.. ..answer....the....pull!!!


:lmao:

rmonty02
02-11-2010, 07:56 PM
So I subscribed to this thread over a month ago and FINALLY got a chance to read it. I am planning our first trip ever to WDW. I wanted to be able to take my parents, as they are aging and slowing down. They took us to DL about once a year and since I've had my two boys we have gone with them three times the last three years. Our dream has been to go to WDW and now with DVC we're going to make it happen!
I'm looking forward to reading about any special trip must do's. However we will not be doing everything this trip. We're just doing the 4 parks and some quality resort relaxation. I'm tired just thinking about that.

I'm counting down the days to call in and make our ressie...

kaoden39...I live where you live! It's funny to see my city name under your avatar.:thumbsup2

kaoden39
02-11-2010, 08:13 PM
So I subscribed to this thread over a month ago and FINALLY got a chance to read it. I am planning our first trip ever to WDW. I wanted to be able to take my parents, as they are aging and slowing down. They took us to DL about once a year and since I've had my two boys we have gone with them three times the last three years. Our dream has been to go to WDW and now with DVC we're going to make it happen!
I'm looking forward to reading about any special trip must do's. However we will not be doing everything this trip. We're just doing the 4 parks and some quality resort relaxation. I'm tired just thinking about that.

I'm counting down the days to call in and make our ressie...

kaoden39...I live where you live! It's funny to see my city name under your avatar.:thumbsup2

How funny!! There is another disboarder, pixiewings71 is from here too. What a small world. I'll make the world even smaller her daughter and my son are in the same middle school and are in band together.

bumbershoot
02-12-2010, 06:40 PM
must....resist....the...temptation....must...not.. ..answer....the....pull!!!


:lmao:

I think we all know how good I am at resisting Disney's pull. I don't hold high hopes for preventing myself from booking such a trip, IF the money's there.

Speaking of that, I gotta pack up these CDs! After hauling 18 million CDs around from place to place, and never EVER listening to them, we're selling almost all of them. Between abundatrade and secondspin (both .coms), it's going to be nice!

bumbershoot
02-12-2010, 07:04 PM
And speaking of temptation...DS is watching Star Wars right now. I'm wearing my new glasses, which give me bionic vision again (20/15 instead of the pathetic-to-even-complain-about-it-but-I-did 20/30, with astigmatism corrected), and I looked across to the living/TV room from my desk/dining room table...and it looked just like I remember way deep in my brain, compared to when I first saw it.

Why the change?

Because we spent our Family Fun Fund money this month to upgrade to a blu ray player. A 99.99 player, but what seems to be a good one all the same. Made by Vizio, bought at Costco.

We are VERY impressed, and it's super-fun to watch all of our DVDs in it, because of course bluray "upconverts" the DVDs so they look even better than they usually do.

We watched Surfs Up the other day. Now that's a fabulous movie to begin with. Excellent casting, incredible animation, beautiful storyline. We'd seen it from a library rental a few times, then they were playing it all summer long at the free movie days 2 summers ago, and we saw it a few times on the big screen, which was even more incredible. Some months back I convinced Robert to mess with the TV/DVD player buttons and we finally got a true widescreen when playing DVDs, and that was even better (we'd since bought the movie). But this blows it ALL away. I mean...you can see the animated beach-ground under the animated surf in one of the scenes...it's that incredible. Made an amazing movie just mind-blowing, in our opinions.

So this is a "wow that lightsaber looks like how I remember it from the first time I saw the movie" post, a "what's on her mind" post, and a "wow, that new Vizio bluray player is a good bargain" post.

Plus, it was on my mind. It's a nice, non-caloric, way of spending our "fun" money this month!


Oh, and Robert's off on another trip in a couple weeks!

kaoden39
02-12-2010, 07:52 PM
I think we all know how good I am at resisting Disney's pull. I don't hold high hopes for preventing myself from booking such a trip, IF the money's there.

Speaking of that, I gotta pack up these CDs! After hauling 18 million CDs around from place to place, and never EVER listening to them, we're selling almost all of them. Between abundatrade and secondspin (both .coms), it's going to be nice!

I on the other hand seem to add to my cd's. I listen to them in my minivan while running errands or whatever. If it is a run to the store around the corner I walk but most errands require a car in our town. With us books are what we need to get rid of, I need to take the boxes of books I have and donate them at the local thrift shop. You are better than I am.

bumbershoot
02-12-2010, 08:41 PM
Well, you're donating, not selling, so in the grand scheme of things, YOU are better. :)

We donate almost everything else, and because we don't have enough deductions to actually do us any good, we don't even get receipts. That feels good, I do have to say that.

We kept making goodwill runs (of good stuff, not stuff they just have to toss) and feeling that it was a "karmic snowball", as opposed to the financial snowball we're "throwing" at the car (Ramsey-speak, sorry).

But for many of the books I've gotten rid of recently, I took them to HalfPrice Books. The ones I can't sell there (book club books, for instance) we'll just donate them...ooh though maybe abundatrade would take book club books? Hmm.

The CDs...there are just so many of them. The only CD that gets played in the car is the Empire Strikes Back soundtrack! :rotfl:

kaoden39
02-12-2010, 08:47 PM
Well, you're donating, not selling, so in the grand scheme of things, YOU are better. :)

We donate almost everything else, and because we don't have enough deductions to actually do us any good, we don't even get receipts. That feels good, I do have to say that.

We kept making goodwill runs (of good stuff, not stuff they just have to toss) and feeling that it was a "karmic snowball", as opposed to the financial snowball we're "throwing" at the car (Ramsey-speak, sorry).

But for many of the books I've gotten rid of recently, I took them to HalfPrice Books. The ones I can't sell there (book club books, for instance) we'll just donate them...ooh though maybe abundatrade would take book club books? Hmm.

The CDs...there are just so many of them. The only CD that gets played in the car is the Empire Strikes Back soundtrack! :rotfl:

I tend to be really bad and I go cyclical I will like a type of music for a certain amount of time and then I feel the need to change. And then there are the other critics in the van. I am moody.:hippie:

Brady's Mom
02-13-2010, 01:40 PM
I don't think we've bought a CD in a REALLY long time. We have Mp3 players now and just download the music we like to the player and play it in the car instead of CD's. It works great since the CD player in the van isn't even hooked up anymore. I like being able to choose the songs I want from the band I want and not have to include the other songs on the album that I didn't really like. :confused3

Although, I don't always get to listen to what I want - we listen to a lot of Veggie Tales and Chipmunks in the car on the way to and from school! :rotfl:

I may have to download some Star Wars music - my kids would love that. Hmmmm... and maybe I should consider some music from Pirates. pirate:

kaoden39
02-13-2010, 03:34 PM
I don't think we've bought a CD in a REALLY long time. We have Mp3 players now and just download the music we like to the player and play it in the car instead of CD's. It works great since the CD player in the van isn't even hooked up anymore. I like being able to choose the songs I want from the band I want and not have to include the other songs on the album that I didn't really like. :confused3

Although, I don't always get to listen to what I want - we listen to a lot of Veggie Tales and Chipmunks in the car on the way to and from school! :rotfl:

I may have to download some Star Wars music - my kids would love that. Hmmmm... and maybe I should consider some music from Pirates. pirate:

My cd's are mostly ones that I have downloaded the music from itunes and created, with the rare full albums. I like to mix and match myself. I learned a while back that I buy my kids cd's on itunes and burn them cd's because if they are lost or scratched no big deal I just burn a new one. I have an ipod but like cd's I get tired of the music on it.

bumbershoot
02-14-2010, 01:41 AM
I may have to download some Star Wars music - my kids would love that. Hmmmm... and maybe I should consider some music from Pirates. pirate:

The Imperial March is MOST impressive in the car. DS conducts from the backseat and makes it even better.

Pirates music is a good idea! Have you watched all the special features with Hans Zimmer talking about the music? The music is amazing, and Zimmer has done the music for SO many good movies!


We were just watching something...a show talking about music and motifs...it brought me right back to a Music of Musical Theater class I took in college. How the characters have motifs and you'll hear them in various ways throughout the movies, etc etc. Oh what were we watching? even though I had that class and do pay attention, I hadn't even noticed that this one theme morphed into this really different sounding, but actually almost the same, bit of music at a different point.

Anyway, that makes no sense b/c I can't cite what we were watching, but music is cool. And a brain is a terrible thing to waste. Or so it seems from some of my twisty-brain posts I've made recently! Can't get my words to go in the right order, it seems!

Brady's Mom
02-14-2010, 09:58 AM
Speaking of music - we were all excited to watch the opening ceremonies last Fri. for the Olympics since the ceremonies for Beijing were so great. SNORE! I was really disappointed and bored. The best part for us was the music/sports montage leading UP to the ceremonies. They had the montage set to music from Pirates and it was fun to see how well they actually made the clips match the music.

Molly, that college class sounds really cool. It would have been a class for me for sure!

It sounds like it's time to change up the music on the Mp3 player and add some Imperial music and some Piratey music.

I used to listen to a classical station in my area all the time when my DS 21 was a little guy. I've since gotten away from the radio since I get really tired of the inane chatter that always accompanies the music. And with the classical station I got tired of the sponsor drives all the time. I think my attention span and tolerance levels are going DOWN as I get older! :confused3

And just a note of good news - We Get to Go to Disneyland in April! :banana: We weren't planning on going any more this year since our son is coming home and we have a trip to San Francisco planned and have some other things that are going on - like some college expenses for him. BUT, we took the plunge and decided to go to DLR during our kid's spring break. It will be VERY busy and we know this - we also feel like we are seasoned Disney Warriors and will be just fine with the extended hours and crowded walkways. So the countdown has begun at our house - one for DLR and one for our son!

bumbershoot
02-14-2010, 08:28 PM
Woohoo for a trip to Disneyland!!!!!!!!!


I noticed the Pirates music too!

Speaking of music, the music being played as the athletes entered the stadium was driving me crazy! It was *almost* the music from Love Actually, but then changed at the last second. Crazy-making!


The class was cool. I did Theater all through high school, but the San Jose school district never had any money for Musical Theater at all while I was going to school (no music classes from elementary school on), so I was never exposed to it, other than movies like Guys and Dolls, West Side Story, etc.

I can't even remember why I took the class, and I was so intimidated because it was filled with actual Theater and Music majors! (many of the people in the class were in choir and other groups, and one of my acquaintances actually became a proper opera singer (Robert McPherson) and they all sang with him...that's the level that some of the people in the class were at!) At the end of the course we got to actually create a song/motif for a scene, and it was really amazing that I could actually contribute to it.

I remember studying Sweeney Todd in that class, which is where I really heard what music does for us emotionally, and how it can queue us to things, foreshadowing and such. I have a soft spot for the broadway version with Angela Lansbury thanks to that course!

bumbershoot
02-15-2010, 02:09 AM
I reorganized today. Yay!

My stuff is finally off of the dining room table. That will allow us to perhaps eat at the table every so often. And it will facilitate E doing his learning work more often (so we don't have to do 20 pages in one sitting, which he actually loves, but whines about the whole time) b/c I don't have to clear my junk off the table.

I am now at my desk (yep, I've had a desk this entire time, but somehow it had laundry on it?), I have the printer to the side, I have all my various binders lined up at the back of the desk, it's very thrilling. I still have some organizing to do within my organization, but that'll be much easier now, since it's all right here, on the same surface that isn't needed for other things!

I even have a basket to hold pens and sticky page marker things.



I ordered a Passporter last night! So excited.

Brady's Mom
02-15-2010, 10:25 AM
I reorganized today. Yay!

My stuff is finally off of the dining room table. That will allow us to perhaps eat at the table every so often. And it will facilitate E doing his learning work more often (so we don't have to do 20 pages in one sitting, which he actually loves, but whines about the whole time) b/c I don't have to clear my junk off the table.

I am now at my desk (yep, I've had a desk this entire time, but somehow it had laundry on it?), I have the printer to the side, I have all my various binders lined up at the back of the desk, it's very thrilling. I still have some organizing to do within my organization, but that'll be much easier now, since it's all right here, on the same surface that isn't needed for other things!

I even have a basket to hold pens and sticky page marker things.



I ordered a Passporter last night! So excited.

Hooray for being organized!! :banana: I love to be able to find the things I need/want right away.

When our oldest was little we weren't very good about eating at the table - as he got older (7 or 8 ish) it became more important to do it. We started to make it more of a habit when we had our next baby and it's stuck ever since. Consequently our table gets cleaned off regularly. My big problem is the paper mess on the kitchen counter! :scared1: I never seem to be able to get a handle on it - no matter how hard I try. :confused3

Silly Little Pixie
02-16-2010, 11:46 PM
Yay for the Passporter!! It's my very favorite. I have my 2008 one, pocket pages written in and all. I love browsing them over and over!

Used it again in 2009 and will again in 2010. I've lent it to friends going to the World as well. It is well loved! It was a good value, easy to use, and handy to carry in my backpack. Loved the included maps of the parks, and maps of where all the hotels, etc are located.

Good for you for getting organized!! It feels good, ya? I have lots I need to do...you can inspire me!

kaoden39
02-16-2010, 11:49 PM
I have a Disneyland Passporter. It isn't as complete as the Disneyworld ones from what I understand but I love it.

bumbershoot
02-17-2010, 04:54 PM
Basking in the Passporter love.....



Don't you hate being in the *middle* of organizing? It's so messy! Much messier than when everything is just in one big pile. Disheartening.

Plus, E has 4 days of classes at the Y again this session, and I'm finally starting to meet acquaintances that might become friends, so there's extra time spent at the Y talking. (yay!) But that's less time at home to make my space neat!

Since I'm the record/money keeper, the planner, etc, I have to stay on top of things, but it's just hard.

In the "back to school" sales, I bought several cheapie binders from, well, wherever had really excellent cheapie binder sales. So now, instead of keeping those things in files, which has never ever worked for me (once they go in a file, they are gone like in the basement of the department of antiquities building in Indiana Jones), I'm keeping them in binders. I even got to buy a hole punch and stapler during those same sales. I looooove office supplies. And also, I bought a rubber stamp with the turny things with many options and date options. I use it for E's learning work, because writing the date on pages is just so annoying; stamping is more fun.

But I could use it for bills, too.

So I have a binder for the current insurance year's stuff (EOB, bill, receipt), I have a binder of lab results for Robert, binder for car and DVC payback, etc.

Then I have miscellaneous that I need to find places for, and that's where I'm stuck o rama!

Not to mention, I'm going to have to re-pre-evaluate a bunch of CDs, because it's now pretty much too late to get the items to the places in time. Grr. I was about to wrap them up the other night when I realized I hadn't checked the CD cases, and several of them need to be switched out. Right now we just cannibalize the cases of CDs we haven't gotten ready to sell, but it's still time consuming.

I'm also in the middle of figuring out if we should stay the course with our insurance plan, or move to the fancypants plan (high premium, have to have referrals, but ONLY pay a copay and that's IT), or move to the high deductible. The latter has frustrated us when we've used it before, but I've been analyzing the past EOBs and bills, and realized why it has frustrated us. It might be the best option, even though we know that with Robert's stuff, we won't be rolling over any funds to the following year. Plus, amazon does this interesting form of a high ded plan, where they give you half of the deductible, just plunked into the account. So first you spend that, which you haven't paid for at all, then the same amount out of pocket, and then you get "into" the insurance plan.

So I'm analyzing it all, figuring that the coming insurance year will be about the same as the last one, with Robert and hopefully with us, etc etc etc.

Exhausting!


And while I'm in the middle of all of this, Robert's now decided to start talking WDW! The past few months, it's all just been "yeah, that's good, you're in charge", and now that my brain is just waiting until we're closer to the 7 months booking period for non-home-resort DVC stuff, and it's wading through this *other* stuff, he's now into WDW. :rotfl2:


OK, enough whining/talking. Gotta do some work. :goodvibes

kaoden39
02-17-2010, 06:51 PM
How exciting that Robert is getting into the planning. I am trying to nail Scotty down in the planning for June and he just says, "oh whatever you decide honey this is your trip." I won't even tell you what I think.:rotfl:

bumbershoot
02-17-2010, 08:30 PM
Oh you don't have to tell me; I've probably had similar feelings!

One of the feelings is...."this is starting to feel like a SOLO trip to me!" :rotfl:

No really...

I think one of the problems is that he just hasn't known enough about the place. I think he is going to be very surprised by how different yet the same MK is going to feel, while I'm totally anticipating feeling a bit dizzy by it. But every time we watch a travel show about it or watch a planning DVD, he gets more of a handle on the place.

And of course he does have to remind me about what he (and DS) like, how they like to travel. He keeps on talking about days off and such, and I gotta tell ya (I already told him) it's making me want to do a day off even LESS! Which is completely stupid and babyish of me; I want to swim, I am always sad when we don't swim, I want to have a drinkie by the pool and watch DS on the water slides b/c he'll be a really good swimmer by then, if his recent progress is anything to go by, and also b/c FL laws are different than CA laws, and even if he needs a life jacket, from what I've read, he can still go down the slides.

I just don't want to be reminded to plan for those days off, especially when I've even talked about those days! Grump grump grump.


A lovely (er, should say handsome as it's a guy) and kind dis'er exchanged maps with me, so I have a set of WDW maps! I haven't looked at them yet, b/c it's just too exciting for me! I want to show the family, but especially with the Olympics, it feels like we have even less time than normal to talk about things.



Brag alert!

We were at homeschool PE class, and this week is a unit in swimming. So it's a homeschool mom in the very shallow pool with the littler kids, and everyone's having fun. I noticed how much better E is doing, I mean, it's night and day just from the last time he was in the pool!

So I'm noticing, and the other mom is noticing, and yay, DS's first swim teacher was there on guard duty. Since it was mainly classes happening (built in watchers) she didn't mind casually chatting, and she just had a baby, gave him an Irish name and he's a redhead, talked about her Mickey Mouse earrings (she loves disney but never gets to go because of $$), and while watching E, I thanked her for being his first teacher, and how so much of his learning to swim is because of her.

Well...that was a good thing to say to her. She really appreciated it. :goodvibes

I mentioned that I'd been thinking of a private lesson or two, to help him with how to hold his breath under water, so that he didn't come up gasping and sputtering, but just in the last week he had done so much better.

And then...here comes the brag...she said that she doesn't usually give private lessons, but if we ever wanted to, that she would give lessons to him, because of how much she liked him in class. :cloud9: Isn't that just the most wonderful?


And then I realized that night that his current teacher (when he went up a level and the first teacher went on maternity leave) is his first teacher's sister! No wonder we like her too, because they are VERY similar! Just not similar enough for me to realize they were sisters. :upsidedow

bumbershoot
02-17-2010, 08:40 PM
Ach. Grief is a funny thing.

You're going along, all happy and joyful, and then as you go through your stack of junk on the desk, you come across a bit of envelope with the address label. The one with your stepdad and mom's names, with their old address.

And then, again, you remember...this time, I remember that it's just under a month until it's the 10 year anniversary since my mom died...

And then you wonder if you might actually die from the pain in your heart (not your real heart...I'm not having an MI...the poetic heart).

And then I remember the words told to me by a patient of mine at the time. That the grief will never really lessen, when it hits, it will still be as hard. But the time between the moments of grief will lengthen. And it's so true.

Just right now, it's hard, because I'm so in tune with anniversaries of things. So the moments are happening quite a bit.

Dagnabit.

kaoden39
02-17-2010, 08:45 PM
:hug:

bumbershoot
02-17-2010, 10:06 PM
Thanks.

And then, to just pile on to my mental state, while cleaning up (doing a good job) I found the insurance/bills/etc and also the "midwife" notes from when E arrived. I thought the bills were bad enough (I'm fairly certain that the bills we paid to the collection agency were actually bills we were NOT supposed to be liable for, crap crap crap!), but the notes were horrible. Oh the lies. She describes "leaving M and R alone" when actually she was having a MASSIVE tantrum and REFUSED to come back in the room until I, the one laboring, had apologized to her.

I couldn't finish reading it. I broke out in hives just reading what I read of it. Started feeling faint.


I'm soooooo not over it. Crud. I want my mommy.

kaoden39
02-17-2010, 10:09 PM
Thanks.

And then, to just pile on to my mental state, while cleaning up (doing a good job) I found the insurance/bills/etc and also the "midwife" notes from when E arrived. I thought the bills were bad enough (I'm fairly certain that the bills we paid to the collection agency were actually bills we were NOT supposed to be liable for, crap crap crap!), but the notes were horrible. Oh the lies. She describes "leaving M and R alone" when actually she was having a MASSIVE tantrum and REFUSED to come back in the room until I, the one laboring, had apologized to her.

I couldn't finish reading it. I broke out in hives just reading what I read of it. Started feeling faint.


I'm soooooo not over it. Crud. I want my mommy.

What a beastly person she sounds like. I cannot stand people like that. Oh and what a professional. :hug:

bumbershoot
02-17-2010, 11:30 PM
It was so horrible. I wasn't treated well at the hospital either, my story literally takes HOURS to tell in its entirety, but I knew that I didn't trust hospitals, ya know? It wasn't as big a blow. I generally call her the "hired help" when speaking of the "midwife". And at the end, she KNEW she'd done me wrong. She sent, on her own, a check for the portion of her fee that was post-natal visits, because she knew I would never ever want her near me again (I never even let them know DS's name). That fee was NONrefundable, but she sent it back. She knew she'd done me wrong. But knowing it after the fact doesn't change the horrible things that were done to me (or DS, who was injured by the OB).


OK and then, just to pile on, I went to check my secondary email address to see if my aunt had written, or if disney movie rewards had replied to an email I sent...and got YET ANOTHER forward from my stepdad. Now...I have no solid political beliefs. I go this way and that. I have never shared my overall believes with family or friends, even, but they all think I'm a raving liberal just b/c I own two pairs of Birks and don't do much to my hair, LOL. (but seriously, that's just what they've decided despite never having ASKED me)

I'm also very much NOT of stepdad's religion and he knows it.

DH of course has a mother from outside the country, and he's Buddhist.

My stepdad's son basically stopped speaking to me forever many moons ago b/c I blasted him after he sent a nasty email forward that blasted non Americans, the "axis of evil" countries (he doesn't even know enough to know that NOrth and South Koreans used to be the SAME people, and therefore he was insulting Robert's family), people not of their religion, ALL in one fell swoop.

So I really didn't need this from stepdad. I had to reply, though, because it was about the 5th he'd sent and that's about my limit.

I almost didn't send it (I did not blast him, but I reminded him that I loved hearing from HIM and his wife, but I didn't like forwards, I poked some holes in the email that was forwarded, reminded him of Robert's mom's origin, how I wanted to be an "illegal" alien in Ireland but was too chicken, and reminded him again that I liked hearing from them personally, and also maybe that if he insisted on forwards he could at least use BCC to protect everyone's privacy), but Robert reminded me that they never seem to care about hurting OUR feelings, about putting THEIR views onto people whose views they don't know, etc etc etc, so why should we care about theirs? That convinced me!

So we'll just see the fallout from that.


I think I'm going to take my beer (I think I earned it today, LOL) into the living room and show the guys the WDW maps. :goodvibes

kaoden39
02-18-2010, 08:48 PM
That sounds like my FIL. Oh my goodness. Unlike you I have made no secret of my political beliefs. I am extremely vocal. Especially since he is a bigoted old man. He used to constantly send me what I considered offensive emails. I finally told him that if he couldn't send non-political, and non offensive emails to just not send me anymore. I haven't gotten an email from him since. I feel kind of bad, this is my kids only grandpa but he is a real pig IMHO. I feel your pain.

bumbershoot
02-20-2010, 01:27 AM
It's always good to have someone know your pain, though of course it would be best if none of us had to deal with that.

The reason I rarely talk about political and religious beliefs with family is that they don't fall into one set named system. And many people just can't deal with that. They want a name... (which reminds me of Eddie Izzard talking about chiropractors..."make the noise, make the noise"..."say a name, say a name" LOL) They "can't handle the truth!"

As I approach 10 long years without my mom, stepdad approaches his 7 year anniversary with his wife. Who he met in singles bible study at the church my mom and he had just joined before her diagnosis, and which he started going to maybe 3 weeks after my mom died (I can understand why you wouldn't want to go to *couples* groups, but you'd think he might have just had some private sessions with his pastor, rather than throw himself into their meat market, ya know?).




However, all of the above stuff PALES to finding that Eamon has been growing a 6 year molar! It's about halfway through the gum, and the gum on other side in the same place is bulging. Plus, two of his front teeth are just barely loose, and I can see a bulging in his gum between those teeth.

Exciting days, I tell you!


In addition, I ran into an old friend the other day! She's always been an interesting woman...I met her when she was only 19, but had been out of the house since 15; she has a 7 year old (who was our "baby voodoo" at our wedding; I danced with that scrumptious 1 year old for something like an hour), has since gotten married and had another scoobybaby (just the word I use) who is also scrumptious, and I met her family and it was lovely!

So all the mental anguish I was going through the other day has lifted. :goodvibes



Eamon is BEYOND excited for WDW, cannot wrap his mind around the time left, and has started packing. He's even packing underpants! Practical kid!

bumbershoot
02-20-2010, 11:33 PM
Just now I finally took the money that's just been sitting there, waiting, and bought E's ticket through undercovertourist/mousesavers link. It's not a full ticket; just one that met the price requirements for now...we'll add days or turn it into an AP; whichever sounds better at the time. :goodvibes

kaoden39
02-20-2010, 11:40 PM
Just now I finally took the money that's just been sitting there, waiting, and bought E's ticket through undercovertourist/mousesavers link. It's not a full ticket; just one that met the price requirements for now...we'll add days or turn it into an AP; whichever sounds better at the time. :goodvibes

Woo hoo!!!

bumbershoot
02-24-2010, 12:16 AM
I still need to talk about Animal Kingdom and Universal, don't I?

Not to mention restaurants and menu items...

kaoden39
02-24-2010, 12:25 AM
I still need to talk about Animal Kingdom and Universal, don't I?

Not to mention restaurants and menu items...

Yes, I think so. Definitely, both are things I can relate to.

bumbershoot
02-24-2010, 08:40 PM
I really really want to think about those things! But all I can think is...brrrrrrrrrr.

And...Robert's going on an 8 night trip, starting Friday!

And...why did I think I would like all the homeschool kids and moms in the PE class? Man oh man this one kid can sass! And I almost NEVER use that word. It's one thing to be able to talk to an adult. It's another to talk to an adult as though you are a rude, nasty, jerky adult. Harumph. The rules are the rules, kid! (I actually volunteered to help with an activity, which I can barely believe)

E is currently finishing up a "scissor skills" workbook. Probably not important at this point b/c he's got the MAD skillzzzzz (ha ha ha), but ya gotta finish it, right?

He hurt his toe last night. Managed to get his little little chair slamming down onto the nailbed of his right big toe. Ouch. Lovely bruise with some swelling, bruise already coming up into the "moon" of the nail. I'm a pro at nasty nasty nail injuries, so if the nail comes off, I'll know just what to do!



OK, talk to me. Tusker House. Character breakfast for fun and food, or really interesting menu for non-character lunch? Your opinion on what you would choose, and why?

kaoden39
02-24-2010, 08:50 PM
I think that I get very frustrated with the parents of kids like that. I know that it is their fault. I try to be patient with them it gets harder as they get older. I have always figured that my kids had better be polite to other grown ups, and thankfully they are.

bumbershoot
02-25-2010, 03:06 AM
So, to be more clear (b/c it's bugging me that I was all circumspect), they were in the rock wall room. There was an actual instructor helping with the big, harness-necessary, wall, but they needed someone to "spot" the kids on the side walls. I was told...you have to be right behind them, arms at the ready, in case they fall. One kid on the wall at the time, they go down to the end (not up), and you can put rings on the holds to make it more fun.

This one kid, who was REALLY good, let me know I was doing it ALL wrong, that HE didn't need me to be right behind him, if another kid wanted to climb too that they could and I could just leave him alone, etc etc etc. He got to the end, and insisted on going back, even though the rule was that they get down, and back to teh line at that time. He simply would NOT get down, and I wasn't going to pull him down.

Now you have to understand...I have a sensitive kid, so I give lots and lots of range for how people deal with their sensitive kids. But I happen to know that this kid's mom does NOT consider him to be "sensitive", even though he generally leaves any and all classes in tears, yelling, if he suddnely doesn't want to do something, or feels he cannot do anything. He's sensitive. And I'm not going to bodily take down ANY kid unless they get petrified with fear (which happened with the very last kid of the hour). So...he went back, and took up other kids' time doing so. And that wasn't the last of it. I actually had to go talk to the other mom volunteer to ask "is this a skill-learning day, or is it a competition?" because this kid was SO insistent that if a kid came off the wall they HAD TO stop and get back in line. etc etc etc.

And then at the very end, the kid's mom came back in (hello, you seemed to be the alpha-woman here, why'd you leave?) and whined to me that I had let a child (last kid of the hour) go too high, and that the "general rule" is that they only go as high as they are tall.

OK, first off, that makes NO sense. The wall's bottom holds are already higher than the ground, so you're already 2" taller than you are when you are on the bottom foot holds. Second, if this is a "general rule" I would assume the staff member would have told me this. Third, YOUR kid did not conform to this rule AND he made my hour much much harder. Fourth, what the? If you have different rules, YOU need to BE HERE.

Russa frussa.....



Tusker House...I want both! I can't have both. I want the character breakfast b/c it looks like fun. :goodvibes I want the later meal b/c the menu looks so interesting and yummy. DH is afraid of character meals b/c of the expense (but he enjoys the characters!)

Brady's Mom
02-25-2010, 04:07 PM
Ugh, sassy, bossy kids who are covering up for insecurities and clueless parents - what a horrid mix. :hug: It sounds to me like you handled it better than I would, but sometimes my inner drill sergeant does get the best of me. :rolleyes:

I find it hard to have a sensitive kid, sometimes. My most sensitive kid is 13 almost 14 and that can be really hard in PE at school or some group situations. He overcompensates in some areas and seems to try too hard instead of just being himself. I think DH struggled like that when he was younger since they are very much alike. I'm just glad DS has me, and not DH's mom. I sometimes wonder how DH made it with a clueless, judgmental parent and grew up as well-adjusted as he did. :confused3

bumbershoot
02-25-2010, 08:20 PM
Well, we didn't make it to PE today.

And not because of what was going on yesterday, but because after picking up the free 8x10 Walgreen print (there's a post on the budget board, quick, if you have time left in the day and a Walgreens, go find the code and pick up your print!) his belly was really hurting. So much so, and he had such circles under his eyes, that I convinced him that going home to rest, so that he might be able to swim on Saturday, and definitely would be able to do his PE next week (gymnastics both days plus his regular gymnastics class!) next week, would be MUCH better.

He finally agreed (which as we all know is the true sign of illness in a kid that doesn't want to miss anything), and *just* as we were pulling into our basement garage...blorp.

So we're washing the seat covers of the carseat, I have to wash the harness straps, gotta wash the shell of the carseat! He got *everything*. If only I'd driven faster! If only I hadn't had to wait for a pedestrian slowly crossing the driveway to the garage. If only it hadn't taken me so long at Walgreens... yeah, 'cuz that would have meant he would have thrown up all over ME, likely in the elevator. And have I mentioned we live in what is basically a retirement condo building? With people who are, while much more active than us, possibly more immuno-sensitive? So I guess it's good it just got the carseat. 'cuz I don't know how I would have cared for him AND cleaned up the elevator!


So...that was fun.

While taking apart the seatcover and harness and all, I wondered if it might just be easier to buy a new carseat! I mean, the Graco Nautilus isn't *that* much, right? :rolleyes1


We received the Passporter last night and E's ticket today (checked the mail before going out). Woo! Little rays of sunshine in a rather stinky day.

Oh and E's now been sleeping for almost 3 hours. Poor bitty sicklet!

kaoden39
02-25-2010, 08:29 PM
Poor E. And poor Molly. I hope he feels better soon.

What exciting mail you guys got today!!

I got my Give a Day, Get a Day ticket in my email today. I was pretty excited.

bumbershoot
02-25-2010, 08:53 PM
Oh how exciting about the GAD ticket!

kaoden39
02-25-2010, 08:59 PM
Oh how exciting about the GAD ticket!

I was thrilled. I printed it right away and I seriously considered copying it and putting it in a frame. It is cute.

bumbershoot
02-26-2010, 08:20 PM
Well this has been a fun and enjoyable 24 hours.




:rolleyes1


I'm still thinking very heavily about just buying a new carseat. Even after being taken apart, cleaned, straps cleaned, seat cushion/covers/whatever washed, then put all back together, it's still grossing me out. Am also wishing we had the fundage to replace our otherwise fine bed, where he was taking his nap yesterday (I was actually typing the word "sicklet" when I heard noises from him and realized I really really really wished he'd woken up one minute earlier and gotten himself to the bathroom). :headache:

E never had a fever according to the thermometer, but his belly was burning up as he slept, and the very middle of his forehead, along with his back (to a lesser extent) and his feet were hot. Rest of face, arms, legs...all cool. It's a mystery!


Took Robert to the airport and E was finally finally hungry! And now we're just hanging out (me counting the hours to bedtime).


I can't even find the energy to open the Passporter to see what's in there to be found!

kaoden39
02-26-2010, 08:42 PM
Poor Molly that sucks. I am glad that Eamon finally wanted to eat. I can hardly wait for you to get into the Passporter. I have actually thought about getting it just to read it. I can dream about the trip we can take when the kids grow up. Which after a day like today it feels like forever.

bumbershoot
02-26-2010, 08:48 PM
Oh, hopefully your household hasn't been hit with a bug too.

I might whine about illnesses, but I never ask for help. Except that yesterday, this hit E so very hard, and I had Robert's departure looming, and I put it out there on my FB page that I might need help...do you know NO ONE replied? No one!


Anyway, I hope it's just been long and annoying, not filled with family members carrying buckets* and whatnot.




*TSMM popcorn bucket, to be specific

kaoden39
02-26-2010, 08:56 PM
It's disrespect and teenage hormones that are driving me over the edge. My son is 13 years old and I am confused about how to deal with the way he is acting towards his grandma and his dad. He has always been a gentle and sensitive good boy and all of a sudden he is a teenager. Need I say more? I have been able to deal with my daughters teenage years because I am a girl, but with my son I am lost. I tried explaining today that we love him and want him to be all he can be.

Sorry for the highjack but I needed to tell someone.

I am amazed that no one offered at least good wishes on FB. I have kind of stopped venting on FB because I get too much feedback sometimes. Sherry was asking about you and FB recently.

bumbershoot
02-26-2010, 09:20 PM
Oh no, hormones. I'm sorry. At least my brother just got quiet when he hit those years. Wouldn't say a word. Actually, that sort of stuck with him. He's like the real life, but not a spy, Michael Westen, but without the voiceover explaining it all. I don't know what'll happen when E gets to that stage....my heart is with you!

E has been asking "when will I get lovesick? will I cough when I get lovesick?" Yeah, he maybe watches a little Jonas Brothers, LOL. I told him "15" the last time he asked "when". :rotfl: Yesterday, in between tummy episodes..."I already love someone but I can't tell you who. OK, I'll tell you.....Giada." (as in, delaurentis from the food network!) Oh how he loves her big scary shark smile! :upsidedow


I haven't linked FB and dis-life yet. FB is all HS people, college and chiro school people, and relatives and such...not sure they need to know what a disney addict I am. They know maybe a quarter of our trips and think I'm weird enough! :rotfl:

Plus, if I link it up, then some people will find me here, and, well...it's possible I talk about too many "real life" people too blatantly 'round here. I know nothing's a secret, but I don't need to point 'em to a map! (and even though I talk a good game on the functionalities of FB, I'm not actually sure how to make different groups of people)

kaoden39
02-26-2010, 09:35 PM
I love Burn Notice. Michael Westen is a great character. I just will roll with it and figure out how to improve the situation with Loren.

Giada....:rotfl: No comment needed.

I understand about not wanting to link the two together. I on the other hand well, I am a Disney freak no matter what. Everybody knows that. I am who I am. I sound like Popeye.:rotfl:

bumbershoot
02-27-2010, 12:50 AM
:)


E's asleep.

Today as we drove home from the airport, he was talking about how he hates Robert's job, and wishes he didn't have a traveling job. I was telling him that it's a great job, and it is so good for Robert, and even though it's a bummer for us, and a bummer for him b/c he goes away, it's just so much better than places he was before.

And also, that even if E thinks I'm cranky when we're on our own sometimes, that the reality is, it's really good for me. I became extremely dependent on Robert - too dependent - in many ways post-Eamon. Even though I'm strong in many ways, even just putting E to bed has always been a two person job, and that's just the start. When E had rota, I'd leave the dipes for Robert to deal with. I let him wash all the dishes, etc etc etc. I didn't even realize how dependent I'd become until this job.

And to be able to feel myself be strong, be independent again, to go to the Y and get off so much fat already (despite what the stupid scale says), to take him to PE and actually help out, to do all this on my own...it's really made me better. I was saying all of this to E, but sometimes my explanations go on really long (really? what a surprise! I'm so succinct online) and he fades out... And then I had to merge onto I-5 and so I shushed.


So he was going to bed, all cuddled up, and he hugged me...and said..."you feel like a stronger parent." :lovestruc



I'm off to curl up under my plush snuggie with my passporter and maybe the bank stuff, working out the March budget and reading some good stuff about WDW!

kaoden39
02-27-2010, 01:03 PM
E's such a great age.

I hope that you are enjoying the book.

Today is going to be a day of sewing. My oldest daughter is going curling tonight and her pants are a little long. This should be interesting.

bumbershoot
02-27-2010, 01:21 PM
Curling? Wow!

If you have a naughty mind...there's a link to an Australian news show on TMZ, and the newspeople are playing Wii Curling as some part of a news/sports/interest segment. Let's just say...the motions with the wiimote to brush the ice for smooth movement of the stone just look...odd. :rolleyes1


Finally realized that E's symptoms are norovirus type. Makes no difference in what we do for him, but it sure is keeping us home from swimming and my workout today! Sure don't want others to deal with as sick a kid as E was for those 24 hours (and he's still feeling wobbly in the tummy).


It was nice to page through the book. Those shiny pages sure are smelly, though! And I'm wishing I'd bought the Deluxe refillable edition. Oh well!

kaoden39
02-27-2010, 06:42 PM
The Disneyland version doesn't have the shiny sheets. I love the book and I wish they had the refills for it like they do for the Disneyworld one. I think the year I got the Dland one is the only year they did one for there. Sadly, I liked it.

bumbershoot
02-27-2010, 08:30 PM
Interesting that DL doesn't deserve shiny sheets that get you a little high, or at least a little headachey. :upsidedow


This is officially my least favorite trip of Robert's. At least on his last trips he was either so close or so far far away, that he was practically in the same time zone, or was nearly in the same zone, just a day ahead. But this one, he's just over *there*, and each of us is sleeping (he gets on the new schedule in less than a day, it's a sick sick talent of his!) when the other one is awake. Harumph.


I've been sitting at my desk, with the computer on...because I feel like I should be *doing* something. Something related to finances or planning or something.

Because of the way I've been paying the car loan, we've managed to get so far ahead that they don't need us to make a payment until July. The principal vs interest was working out so I thought it was going the way I intended it, but they told DH that I've basically just paid ahead. Drat. So, since we have several months before a proper payment is due, we're just putting a bunch directly towards principal. Even though we opted to not go to the Y for class and workout today, I did need to go to the store, and the Saturday-hours banks are at the store, so I slammed several hundred at the loan. It was live on the account by the time I got home, oh that felt good. Under 3K to go! We had over 9K left on the car last August. Dayum!

So the budget is sitting there in the books, that car payment is done, I have the envelopes all funded, gas in the tank, money for more gas in the tank if needed this month...there really isn't much to do other than punch holes in my various printouts and put them in the proper record-keeping binders...

Weird feeling.

If I can't just be happy to not have anything to do, maybe I'll write about AK etc. Or add up the points for what we're trying to do. Something trip related. After all, it's just 2 months until we can book something, depending on when exactly the trip will be, so I should probably know what we can book, if the availability's there, well before then!

kaoden39
02-27-2010, 10:55 PM
I remember the good old days when banks were closed on Saturdays. I worked for one.

Well, curling was a bust. There were wall to wall people there, and it just didn't work out. Oh well.

So I am home to plan, an maybe crochet on a blanket.

bumbershoot
03-02-2010, 12:51 AM
I was sure to thank the teller for being open, that's for sure! It's the branches inside of the Fred Meyer stores that are open SO late on Saturdays...4pm! The normal branches open on Sat are only open until noon or 1, and not all of them are.

kaoden39
03-02-2010, 11:26 AM
That was nice of you. But you know as society has changed with more people working longer hours the banking industry has had to change with us. And frankly we are their bosses until they pay back their loans.

bumbershoot
03-02-2010, 10:59 PM
This has been a really long business trip...and it doesn't even end until Sunday evening when he arrives. Sigh. The nights have been especially lonely...but I've actually been re-watching the Harry Potter movies (as I mentioned before, we found ourselves suddenly upgraded to a bluray (HOW does that happen at Costco? suddenly we have these things in our cart and we don't know how, LOL)), and I'm realizing how little I paid attention to them. I mean sure, I've seen the first two a gazillion times, but then I watched Azkaban, and hardly remembered any of the movie scenes. Watched an hour or so of Goblet last night, then got too spooked somehow, so I'll finish it up tonight once Boy-o goes to sleep.


Got the coolest idea from someone on the DVC forums...they like to go to Universal and stay onsite when they fly out from the West. Why? Because being onsite gets you FOTL ("front of the line") access, so you really don't have to scurry in the mornings. So they sleep in at Universal, knowing they can do it all, and get used to being on the east coast.

The only problem with this is that the Harry Potter area will only have limited special access, so on the day(s) we wanted to hang out there, we'd need to get up early.

It's a much less complicated idea than the whole Vero Beach idea we had before!

kaoden39
03-03-2010, 11:30 AM
Molly it would drive me nuts if Scotty traveled like that.

Love the idea of staying at the Universal and it is kind of exciting to stay right there.

Brady's Mom
03-03-2010, 12:50 PM
Those FOTL passes might just be worth staying onsite. I have some boys that would love Harry Potter, I just don't know how to fit in travel to WDW since for the next four years we will have university and high school schedules to work around. :scared1:

I just watched part of the 5th HP movie with DS 13 and actually liked it. I haven't seen any besides the first 2 and those were not my faves so I have resisted watching the others. I guess I'll have to take the plunge and watch them - DS would probably love it if we rented them. :thumbsup2

bumbershoot
03-04-2010, 10:32 PM
It's definitely a challenging job for a family, that's for sure!

Of the three of us, I'm the one least bothered. Apart from my mom, I grew up in a family where constant contact was never needed. We'd go ages without hearing from our dad, my brother and I will go a few months without emailing even now (and that's an improvement on how it was after I left home for college), etc. So I think I have a much easier time saying "bye" and "hi" than the guys do. Robert's just a big ol' schmoopyhead, LOL, and of course E wants the fun of his dad.


Oh gracious, today's workout was pathetic! I'm just feeling beaten up...I did 2 hard elliptical workouts earlier in the week, and I just feel like someone punched me all over. I think I felt like this during the early days of Crew (and each spring break where we had to stay on campus and do 3-a-day workouts), so I think it's normal for me...but wowie ouch. Anyway, I could only do half of the workout and I was finished. I have Saturday to go, and if I make it to that workout, it'll be the first time I even tried to do it 4 days! Hello even worse pain and soreness!

But on Monday I have an appt with a local chiropractor who does work similar to the way I used to practice (which is nice b/c otherwise I've had to go to Seattle, and that's just difficult and annoying). A bit "out there", not necessarily your typical work. I'm super-excited. :goodvibes It's been too long!

kaoden39
03-04-2010, 10:43 PM
I have been thinking about going to see a chiropractor for my numbness in my arm that is from when they dropped me on the floor in the hospital in 2007. I figure the DR is going in circles and has for three years, maybe a chiropractor can straighten me out.

bumbershoot
03-04-2010, 11:13 PM
It could very likely help!

They dropped you on the floor at the hospital? :headache:

kaoden39
03-04-2010, 11:34 PM
It could very likely help!

They dropped you on the floor at the hospital? :headache:

Yeah, they did, I was paralyzed at the time and I couldn't throw back my arm or roll out of it or anything. I knew I was falling and couldn't do anything about it. My shoulder doesn't track properly either.

bumbershoot
03-05-2010, 02:52 PM
That's just horrible. And I'm sorry if you'd mentioned it and I forgot about it...I'm so good at keeping secrets because I tend to forget things that people told me! Then again, I'm also good to listen to stories over and over, because I generally don't remember them. :rotfl: In a few years, this tendency will start to worry me, but then again, it's pretty much been a constant in my life since childhood.

Beyond just the normal chiropractic where they focus on your spine, you might want to find someone who is trained in "extremity adjusting". And most DCs in CA are, because they have such a vast scope of allowed practice.

I have NO idea how I remember these things, but if you're near Mill Valley, the very first chiro I saw was Nancy Hollis. She used to be in San Jose, but moved. She was absolutely brilliant with extremities, and ended a long reign of shin splints with a (momentarily excruciating) tibia/patella adjustment. She was good with the spine, too.

I just looked at a map, and that seems like quite a drive. Well, perhaps she could recommend someone. If by chance you talk with her, I'm sure she won't remember us, but we saw her in the mid-80s, I'm Molly daughter of Judy (who is no longer with us), and if she cares, I became a DC but gave it up for many reasons (some good some stupid). I was 15 or 16 when my mom dragged me in to see her! Oh, and she ended my heinous allergies as well. As long as I stick with getting chiro care I am not allergic, because my body actually works properly, instead of overreacting to things that aren't poisons! :) At the time I went to see her, my allergies were absolutely destroying my life, nothing helped other than taking drugs that made me sleep.

So there's a "lead" on a chiro that might help, or might help with a referral.





I met a woman at PE yesterday whose husband actually works in Toronto. So now I don't feel as lonely, with Robert "only" being gone once or twice a month (over the holidays, until he was sent off on an "emergency" trip, he hadn't been sent anywhere for about 2 months and was quite bored, and I actually got antsy for another trip for him). :)

Brady's Mom
03-05-2010, 04:15 PM
I'm so glad you found a chiro who does work like you're used to. I absolutely love mine. He trained in California (LA area) and does extremity work and I love it. I hurt my hand pulling laundry out of the washing machine and couldn't move it for 3 days before I went to see him. Some horribly painful, cry my eyes out massage and adjustments and I could move my hand again. I saw him for it twice and was almost as good as new in 3 days. :lovestruc He's helped DH with some Plantar Fasciitus (foot problems) and we wouldn't even consider going to see someone else.

kaoden39
03-05-2010, 04:36 PM
Thanks for the advice and that helps a lot because I had no clue what to look for. I am restrained to have to take a chiro on our health plan. I actually feel lucky that our insurance covers it, most don't. But, noe that I am armed with a little knowledge I know where to look.

Wow, I would hate for Scotty to have to work so far from home. I would n't mind an occasional road trip but, all the time no.

bumbershoot
03-05-2010, 05:05 PM
If you'd asked me just a year ago "Molly, how would you like a job where Robert travels often and sees the world without you?" I would have smacked you in the heiny. OK, maybe not, but I would have thought about it.

And yet here we are! He already has enough Alaska miles to get one cheapie deapie free seat (I know that sounds funny, but they have different "classes" of free tickets?) roundtrip domestic US. I'm learning so much about codeshare flights!


And thankfully I was here, b/c he and his traveling/testing partner (from another country) managed to get on the wrong train, didn't have a train map, and I guess there's no conductor. So I got to try to help him, as the phone was cutting in and out (reception on a train) and we were having email delays with his work iphone...bleargh. But I got them almost immediately on a train going the right way; they were only looking at one schedule, and thought they'd have to find a hotel at the small town where they got off the train (after realizing they were in the wrong one and after our phones cut off the second time). What on earth would those boys do without me? :rotfl:

His coworkers is driving him batty. Trips like this are interesting. They have to get out and about to see if the products work, and they don't have certain places to go (on this trip at least). So really, they can run around and be touristy, stopping in every half hour or so to check out the devices.

The coworker has things he wants to do, but isn't communicating it to Robert...and isn't asking questions...for instance, he's a big sports fan and wanted a jersey with his brother's fave player's name on it. I gave them directions to get to the stadium where this team plays when Robert told me how much P likes this national sport, then they went to the store at the stadium, and the jerseys didn't have names on them. They left, without the guy asking about it.

So here they are days later, in this awesome little town that people visit year round, Robert's taking pictures of everything, and the guy goes to a sporting store of all places (and this is this guy's only trip to this country, he says). Well it was good he went there, because NOW he finds out that the jerseys don't come with names on, but you simply request that the player's name is put on specially. He could have bought a jersey *from the stadium*, but he didn't ask. I know if I were a big, for example, baseball fan and loved the Mariners, I would prefer to buy one from the Mariners field store, not just some random Joe's sporting equipment store.

And that, while minor, is how he's been the days they've been there so far. :headache:

Yielded a big apology from Robert, though, because sometimes he's like that about travel with me. He now realizes how difficult it makes it for others. Nothing is worse, for the "planner", to be told at the END of the trip that they'd skipped the things the other person really really wanted to do, when they had never told the "planner" they wanted to do those things...

kaoden39
03-05-2010, 05:09 PM
Gosh that sounds so much like home. I plan and I plan and I ask for opinions and I get, "whatever you want honey, this trip is for you"( roll your eyes here). And then after all is said and done there is always complaints, like the hotel wasn't what was wanted etc.. Men! Gotta love or we just might smack them.